Horizon Hobby - Night Timber X 1.2m - Unbox, Build, Setup, & Maiden Flights
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I watched this video twice because my wife bought this plane for me for Christmas and I won’t to get it right. “Thank You” very much you did a great job. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Glad I could help! Thanks for coming back for more William!!!
I just learned why you remove the prop while programming. Just got home from getting 20 stitches in the palm of my hand.... haha I’m so stupid sometimes. One thing is for sure, I won’t make that mistake again. The part at 1 hour and 58 min is where I get lost. “We will obviously keep our hands out of the prop area during motor reversing cause we don’t need hand chopping” this totally applies to dummies like me.
Ouch!!! I've been lucky to only been bit by UMX planes, but this plane would be no-fun!!!
Brian Phillips it was no fun. Those props are sharp. Btw, greAt videos, I am still trying to program my dx8 g2 transmitter and can’t get the reverse programmed correctly. Which is why it went full throttle at the idle position. Any advice would be great since I almost threw it across the room after the prop cut me open. I followed your video tutorial, but I must have screwed something up.. I get lost when you disable the gear or something. Is gear safe mode and aux 2 reverse motor mode? Gonna take a couple days to regroup and lick my wounds haha. Great videos you and you wife post. I have binge watched a bunch. I look forward to more videos! Should I Inhibit aux2 or gear? Do you set up high and low rates and did you set up the blending to use the flaps and ailerons at same time?
once again another popular RC airplane review, excellently recorded and edited with much needed informational posted links....... Brain's entertaining and easy to understand commentary is the best that can be found on the internet.....his honest flight reviews, unboxing, assembly and general knowledge is better than the RC dealers and distributers ......
Thank you very much Gary! We appreciate your kind words, and glad we can be of assistance ;)
Amazon and Horizon Hobby have it on sale for $299 so I pulled the trigger on it.
Your videos are incredibly helpful as I’ll be following this one along in my build next week.
Thank you for making awesome content Brian!
Was a little confusing going back and forth on the throttle reverse. Other then that thank you so much for taking the time and getting down. Thing rips!!!!!! Thanks to the camera crew as well!
Update: I was only confused cause if you remember in the ultimate 3D you put reverse on A switch. I had it on a switch but I couldn’t assign safe to switch B it was free but was having a hard time. so I just followed your instructions and it worked great maiden’ed like a Champ. Thank you once again Brian and camera crew!! You guys rock!!
AWESOME - Glad you got her figured out! All I can say is, BE CAREFUL with that Reverse feature...it's a scary thing to do!!!
Been waiting for this vid release,lol.Got mine 2 weeks ago and the winds on the east coast haven't allowed me a maiden yet.Saw on another vid if you move power wires under the battery tray and bring them out the front makes that battery install a lot easier,I have a 3500 4s in mine just waiting to go.Thanks Brian for all your help and another great video,Rick from Delaware
I will try that next time I take her out!!! Thanks Richard!
Could you provide a link to that video. I'm not sure what you mean.
I think actually you did show case this plane really well as it gives more average flyers like myself a much better understanding of what to realistically expect. And yes, for the vast majority of us even though this can be a very easy plane to fly, the SAFE switch can certainly be your best friend as this plane seems to encourage the pilot to push his or her own limits.
True! Glad you agree :) I love to see an "expert" like Horizon Hobby Sponsored Professional RC pilots just as much as the next guy, but that can quickly give you an inferiority complex ;) LOL That's why they have me - LOL :)
Thanks JJ S!
Man if i could fly half as well as you I would be happy!
Hey Bri. good to see your interaction with your son - teach him early and he will be an ace - good job
Thank you. He's a smart kid, and very quick learner. It's very hard to get kids today to stick to anything, as they have such a short attention span, but if he wants to do this, he'll have no excuse but to find success, and I hope he does ;)
Brian your a good pilot, knowledgeable in an awful lot, hope you don't mind a tip, all epf foam planes when unboxed for the first time you really should ( flex ) or exercise hinges on ailerons, flaps, elevator and ruder. This allows easier movement and less ware on servos
True! Great idea, and I should!!! Thanks Don
Great video. Just got mine. 👍
On the left side the + wire for lights was to the rear. On the right side of mine the + positive wire was to the front.
okay...I'll take your word for it. I can't remember.
A excellent fun plane to fly. The only two negatives I encountered with my Timber X,(not the night version ), were the tailwheel was set at 45 degrees to the neutral rudder position which I very carefully used a screwdriver to straighten. The second was the foam is dented in under the front cockpit plastic piece.
I installed the metal spar in the tail right from the start as I intended to mainly use 4 cell batteries. I flew the first flight on a windy day, ( always windy where I live in Australia) and found it handled the wind no problem. Dropping the flaps in the wind is like slamming on the brakes and is a lot of fun.
Due to the large amount of control surface movement, even with safe on a beginner would find it a handful.
One thing I would suggest is to have spare props on hand in case of tipping on the nose. The plastic on the wingtips certainly saves the wings if it tips over. It is by far my most favourite plane. Trying to get club members interested in doing STOL spot landing competitions.
Enjoy watching your videos. Keep them coming.
I hate when there's little stuff screwed up on unboxing - super annoying!!! Sounds like you love it. I want to maybe put on the slats, just because I want them on there for looks ;)
It might take some of the edge of it’s manoeuvres but if hot glued on should be easier to remove than if superglued.
I do enjoy flying it. I also have the 1.2 Mustang June Nite and the Viper. Figured if I could handle the Timber X, I should have no problems with the other two. Unfortunately planes here are double the price you guys pay due to the exchange rate so crashing is not an option.
FYI: When I built mine, I found that the internal control horn set-screw for the rudder control wire was a bit loose and while the rudder was likely well aligned at the factory, when I was assembling it the setting moved. I'd suggest after you setup the radio but before you install the wing, you recheck that the rudder and elevator are centered with the radio on (zero trim settings) and then torque down that set screw! Otherwise, you likely will have a "bad day"! Doing the wire bundle zip-ties that Brian recommends is also very smart!
Loose screws can lead to a bad day, for sure!
Love your new flying field (the previous having a bit more of that typical restrictive, subdivision look about it, as I recall)!
After wanting a sport foamy for more spirited flying & aerobatics, yet liking the 1.55m Timber's STOL & flexible gear for grassy park flying, am looking forward to the Night Timber X -- currently on order! Was difficult to pull off a roll or even inverted flight w/the original, but nice not having to travel to my club's busy field for a quick flight. Your video helped convince me the Timber X can do both quite well. Enjoyed your build & setup. Your wife (or camera crew) is so patient -- a really good sport! Thx for the fun!
Thanks so much! You will love it if you want to be able to roll quicker...this thing is CRAZY!!!
You have a lovely place and that landing strip is sooooo smooth - good job
Thanks Brian! We love it here, and have worked very hard to get her, an are working very hard to stay here, but it's all worth it!!!
Been watching your vids for over a year now. Found you with your UMX Timber series. Have really enjoyed watching. One thing that would greatly help my enjoyment IMHO would be for you to wear a wireless lavalier mic. It would help eliminate the "boominess" and reverb when in your kitchen. It would help us to hear you better when you're outside and you turn away from the camera mic. Compliments to the camera crew for the great camera work following you flights and keeping the subject in frame. Kudos to a great husband and wife team!
I have heard this before, and it is on the docket. I have to say, we feel bad that we haven't yet made the relatively small investment ($250ish), but I've been reluctant, as it adds yet another layer of BS to deal with in filming...BUT, we are planning to do it. I just hope you'll hang in there until we take the plunge ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Every piece of equipment adds more complexity. I come from an audio-visual background so I understand. Keep covering the cool toys! I'll keep watching and enjoying!
Wow looks beautiful when you fly it in sunset.
Totally Agree!
beautiful house, love the view out the window
Thanks SlowFlyers! Megan and I designed and built this house, and a big part of this was pointing the house the direction it is. We can sit on the front cap (porch) and watch a beautiful sunset, OR we can sit on the back DECK and watch the sunset too ;) This was a big part of our plans. We started on a paint drawing and later worked with an architect and refined the plans for 10 or so major revisions (might have been 8???). We're very happy with the results.
Brian. Got this one a week ago. Awesome plane. All the features this one has makes up for the bottom battery installation- that’s the only thing that keeps this from being the perfect specimen from Horizon. Other than that-just beautiful. I was amazed at the 4s power.....I believe I may have to pick up another 1 for back up....If you know what I’m thinking....lol. I was playing hard with the original Eflite Timber and decided to plow the field with it while it was inverted. I liked that plane, and salvaged most of the electronics but never replaced it...I love planes that have lights. When the Night Timber came out-had to have it. I don’t do 3D either-at least not on purpose...haha. Oh-If you not heard already-some folks have experienced some control rods popping loose from the control horns. I highly adding some fuel tubing to all the ones for the wings-especially the way you fly-if you not already thought of it. Enjoyed this video. Kudos to the Camera Crew. 🔥🔥👊👊😉
I totally agree about that bottom access for the lipo....but it is what it is ;) The lights are good enough that you can actually tell what direction you're moving, and the orb of light on the ground it fantastic!!!
Mine is coming into my local hobby store this week! Great video again!
Good luck!
Brian you’re an excellent teacher when it comes to the build and you’re flying techniques, and camera crew you do an excellent job also. 🌴😎🌴
Very welcome William! Are you about caught up??? I just say the number earlier today, something like 1360 videos??? I know you're working on watching all of them, but I keep putting out new stuff to try and run up your buffer ;)
I use some double stick tape and stuck the bind plug underneath where that vent is so you can always get to it with the wings being secured and then you don’t have to remove them to rebind it.
Nice! good idea!
A cool option I did with mine; Flaperons. Then you have really crazy ailerons across the whole wing...but when you need flaps, you still have them available. As usual, thanks for what you and the little bride do for the hobby.
I suspect this thing turns like a top with full length flapperons, right?!?!
The sunset flight looked pretty cool
yeah! Love seeing the sunset with this plane in particular. We wanted to show it at twilight and in the dark, but as you surely noticed, the video quality slips a lot in the dark.
OK you convinced me I have one on the way going to be here Wednesday can’t wait I’m new to flying but I was a drone pilot still am but after learning to fly the plane is so much more fun I wouldn’t have never believe it was that much fun having a blast can’t wait to move to the next level 👍
Nice! Good luck ;)
I just saw your horizon hangout video, I left a comment.. you da man, I see good things in your future with horizon!! Congrats!
Much appreciated! Thanks Ty - I've been fighting for 5+ years for this ;) Now I can finally do it...still loads of work, and still find that reviewing a ton of planes has a strange side effect of making me so busy, I sometimes forget to enjoy it ;)
Just got mine and I have to say it’s not what I expected but it’s only day one so I’ll give it time before I truly pass judgment. It’s fun for sure but so finicky, I think I prefer the evolution but mine is down waiting on back ordered parts. The motor burned up because a bearing went out on flight 20. Got so hot it melted the plastic where the motor mount ties into the fuselage. Horizon is taking care of me and sending the parts free of charge but still disappointed because they are on back order and the tentative date is another month away. I’m going to play with the metal rod on the timber X versus the carbon fiber one. But enjoy the donation for selling me on another plane from horizon 🤦♂️. Love the channel, keep up the great work.
I love my 1.5m best of all of them. BUT this one has got the edge at night. Sorry you had a bad bearing...that sucks...but glad to hear Horizon Hobby is gonna make it right - this is why we like working with HH.
Thanks Matt for sharing.
It was nice to meet you on the horizon hang out that is when I sub to you. Night flying is fun. I have not done much 3d flying lately, mostly jets.
I've been seeing you around these parts for years, I thought, Victor...but either way, thanks for finally coming abort formally ;) That Live event was a bit different for me, but since I was on vacation that week from my day job, I had lots of time tied up with RC stuff. I have quite a backlog of planes to review, and that's the way I like it :)
Good video, the photography is outstanding.
Thank you!!!
I'm watching to see how big the box is.... Yep, I'm buying this at Fast Track in Rocklin, Ca. Tomorrow, while I'm working here. It will be leaving with me in my car, back home to northern Utah for my off work days 🤠
Sweet!
Been watching your videos for a bit now. Definitely getting the Night Timber X after watching the night flight. Going to light up the sky in northern Iowa
Have fun! I'll be looking for it ;)
It’s a great plane. I have all of them and love flying each of them. I used the timber x as my trainer plane when I started flying in the summer of 2018. They are my some of my most favorite planes to fly. Great videos and great information. Keep up the great work!
Really?!?!? You must be a NATURAL!!! This plane is touchy - Congrats Clay!
Thank you. I’m not a natural just used safe a whole lot, lol!!!
Oh man. I had sworn off buying any new models until I've fully moved my son off to college in a few weeks. I've watched so many reviews and flights on this thing and resisted the urge until now. You pushed me over the edge. Priorities are in perfect order. Do college students need towels and dishes? Nah.
Right on! College can always wait - LOL!!!!!
You can think of me when you're skipping mean - LOL!!! At least you'll be happy flying ;)
Thanks for checking out my thoughts on it, as I know I wasn't the first guy on this one for sure!!!
Just bought one of these yesterday, my 2nd plane. It'll be here Tuesday and hopefully not crashed by Wednesday 🤠
Sweet, good luck!
How long did you make it until your first crash?
Cream always rises to the top. Dont push them too hard, just nudge. He will watch his dad and learn from he things you do well also the things you do not so well. Its all education. He will do well and learn to apply himself, we were kids once, and I remember the world being an exiting place and so much to fit in. At that age your mind is a jack in the box.
Yes. It's hard in the moment to see the forest through the trees.
Outstanding video, as always. You say you aren't a 3d pilot, but no need to be humble, you've got skills. All 3d is is some hovering and harriers and mixing those sticks around. Thanks again.
Thank you David, but 3D flying is a skill I'm not super familiar with. I have much respect for those guys who can tip their tail feathers on the ground and do it about 3 feet from their nose!!!! Also, heli pilots that can make it look like a rag-doll, not my cup of tea, and don't have any interest in doing it either...but I have a growing appreciation for different styles of flight. My style is scale flying. I LOVE watching planes fly.
Well Brian, I hate to say it but I was glad to see the Timber X nosing over and bouncing on landings, I have the exact same experience. Being with only 4 months of RC Flying, the Timber X was a handful. If you can fly it comfortably without SAFE, you can fly about anything. The thing is so responsive it's amazing. You can invent aerobatics with that sucker. Looking forward to your night flight
Bill
It's in this video ;)
Brian Phillips I saw it. Man that thing looks wild all lit up over the vampire death site
Love this video. Of all your videos this is probably my favorite. The sunset, plane and fireflies are all amazing. Curious to know if you’re still enjoying and flying this plane.
I would love to see a second thoughts but I get that your up to your ears in new planes and more current planes. Thanks again for the great content!
Thanks Derek! We can try to get it back in the rotation.
Yeah, sunset flights are just a necessary evil for us ;) We seem to get a calm before evening in the summer, so we kinda have almost no choice, and we do love the way it looks at "golden hour" although, we do occasionally get some bad back lighting as a result.
Good 3 d flying... that battery was p.off at you....good recovery to bring it back. Had to watch again as I'm stuck on ur ch.again . Very informative 👏 Brian,wife.
Glad you're here with us Crazy Aces ;)
Hi Brian,
At around 1:59 you wondered about the A switch on the IX12. I have the IX12 and the A switch is a 2 position. I setup safe on that switch. I also tried to do the advanced setup but had problems with the left aileron not going the same direction as the others. Decided to revert it back to standard setup and in the process I had two spare servo extensions. As it was necessary to re-bind the plane I plugged one servo extension into the bind port to make it easier to plug in the bind plug. I didn’t run it through to the battery area but I think it would reach. I also deleted the model on the transmitter and started with a fresh setup.
The battery straps are starting to stretch now so I will be fixing that problem shortly.
I found it odd that they didn’t supply two servo extensions to do the advanced setup. At the time I purchased the plane the extensions weren’t available here.
The IX12 is a great transmitter and I’m glad I bought it when I did. A very capable transmitter. The IX20 has way more features (sorry camera crew!).
LOL - I look forward to my new IX20, just as soon as I have almost everything else done around the property....
Outbuilding
Shop finished
Basement finished
Pond installed
Trees planted
Mini excavator purchased
...then the IX20 ;) LOL
Great educational video jusy picked up that plane and followed ur steps exact and it flies perfect even on a 6 channel radio which they say won't work and it will
Awesome, and thanks!
Hello Brian and Mrs Megan aka camera crew, thats a super cool plane. Was at the field today and seen it fly itwas awesome. Plane flys very well. Very capable of extreme flights. Awesome video as always well done. Thank you for your video keep flying you guys. Just having fun RC'n with friends and family members.
Very cool! Thanks again!
thank you very much Brian, I think i will not complete build of this plane without your advice :D its amazing plane, i can not wait for my maiden flight :D
Glad you came along for the ride! thanks
Great job as always Brian and camera crew, looks like a really fun plane to fly, especially at night, thanks for sharing 👍🏼👍🏼👊🏼👊🏼
Thanks Jeff ;)
Thanks for the time and effort you put into this video. I have been looking everywhere for what size prop I need to switch to 4s.
Very welcome!
Took a hiatus from flying the Apprentice from a shoulder/arm injury during a rainy workday at the club field - slipped and fell directly on right shoulder HARD! That was some 4 months ago. During that time I took the plane apart, stripped off the decals and am painting it to resemble the Cessna Skyhawk that I owned for seven years. At this week's swap meet I bought a BNF Night Timber 1.2 for a great price planning to take it with me on a 1 month plus camping road trip - smaller size to help with storage. Could be easy to fly with SAFE/AS3X. Should be back to flying this April.
Thanks for your quick reply. The plane is a BNF and has the AR637TA, and I built from a blank profile, starting with the same settings as our other Timber X, but I changed some things. Then I tried the two downloads available from Spektrums website mentioned earlier.
I agree and thought that the AS3X is supposed to always be on, which is why I was wondering what is possibly wrong or if I some how conflicted it off or something. Our other Timber X, is also the 1.2M, basically same plane except it has the AR636A reciever and I like that it's touchy. It flys great, with both the iX12 and DX6 (Gen2). That is why I bought the Night Timber, because of how well the our other Timber X 1.2 flys in variable wind conditions, so my wife and I can fly together, with basically the same plane. Perfect manageable size too! I will compare the settings between the two again lol.
I made a mistake saying I was using the 4S 5000mAh batteries, that was wrong, We actually use 3S 30C & 4S 50C 3200mAh's.
Thanks again, I glad to hear it confirmed that the AS3X is always on and can't be turned off with the AR637TA receiver. Now I know it is something with my settings and I'll work on that.
With the AR637T you CAN access "Forward Programming" to turn it up or down, or off....but at this firmware level of the AR637TA, you're STUCK :(... I think the answer I got from HH is that there MIGHT be a firmware upgrade for the TA :) :) ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC I hope so. It would be nice to be able to adjust. I'm starting the transmitter setup again for about the tenth time. I tried the original Timber setup too, didn't work. One flap servo started to jitter and won't stop even after holding it, and now the other servo's on the wing are following suit. I still have a lot to learn lol. Both the Carbon Z Cub 2.1 and the other Timber X 2.1 setup perfectly the first time other than one bad servo that got replaced.
You're a ninja setting up that transmitter! I thought adding some lifegear glowsticks to my wings was cool but the rig is epic!
It glows like an angel - why add more??? This is coming from the guy who puts led's on EVERYTHING - LOL ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC what if you painted the plane with black light reactive paint and added black light LEDs?
Just Bought it (Night Timber) and some batteries for the A-10 today from your link:) 4X points today for RC Club members. Love you guys!
AWESOME! Glad you did (sorry I'm so slow with replying)
You are a busy family, keep up the great content 😊
Now thats a great model bigger wheels are so good for grass takeoffs/ landing I am just getting back into the Hobby now retired more time... - I must get that one as soon as senior management (your camera crew) is on side.
yep
I'm so appreciative of these videos, I just got the timber x wich is pretty much the same and these complicated transmitter setups use to require a call to HH to figure out. You would think I'd catch on eventually but its great to follow along with your videos. P.S. love the home runway. I farm for a living and we are extremely fortunate to be able to walk out of the house and fly! Love the equipment videos too, as long as the tractors stay green that is🤣.
Totally agree - living in the country is awesome, but it's also a LOAD of work, and super expensive!!! I wouldn't have it any other way knowing what I know now.
What do you farm, out of curiosity?
@@BrianPhillipsRC I'm in the thumb of Michigan. We farm wheat,corn,sugar beets,soybeans, and edible beans such as blacks, reds and navy's. I dont make as much $ as I'd like some years with low commodity and increasing equipment prices but the lifestyle and living in the country makes up for it. I couldn't imagine having to go drive somewhere to fly my planes. The air tractor is next on my list. I watch the same plane spray all the time and I gotta have one!
Great price also. Crazy Mode.......he he The new grass is looking good. Love the springs on the landing gear. Just Love the lights.
Yeah! Thanks Tim!
Yo dude! That "cornball" maneuver you're doing is called a Lomcevak. Just thought you'd want to know!
Thanks! Lomcevak - I'll correct my future videos ;)
Had to double check the build. When I was done I had a separate bag left over with three 5mm screws. Also had defective Y-Harness, receiver to ailerons. Big shout out to Mike at Horizon, he treated me well for the inconvenience.
Horizon takes care of their customers!!! I've been there enough times to know, and this is most definitely NOT industry standard. This was one of many reasons why we choose to work with Horizon Hobby!
I think we almost always use all but ONE of a type on our Horizon Hobby models.
Still loving the Night Timber X. Great suggestion!
Glad you love it!
New fan Brian. Just ordered mine to satisfy my want for 3D and will only be flying it on a 4 cell, because I love speed.
This plane needs power to perform, so agreed, 4S is the ONLY way to go on a 3D ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC If you think the Timber X is too easy to fly you would never believe how easy the the 1.5m Timber was to fly. I am such a good pilot that I am bored flying the 1.5m because it’s too easy to fly. It only flys on a 3s and the rolling and pitch is poor on it. I am selling it to someone in need of a trainer and I just finished assembling and binding my Night Timber X.
I just picked up this plane but would like to know how to setup the flaps and ailerons to work together. and when I use the flaps I want them to split up. I cannot find anything on how to do that with the NX 8.
You have to split the wiring on the ailerons and flaps (ailerons might already be split), then Factory Reset the Rx to make a 2 Ailerons and 2 Flaps wind type. This is easier said than done, but if you get these three settings done, then work through FORWARD PROGRAMMING, to do first time setup of AS3X then SAFE, if you wish, but you probably won't have enough channels to do that on the NX8.
Good luck, we don't have a video of this part, but know why you would want to do it. Also, since you'd be setting up the Rx to FACTORY DEFAULT, you can get MORE THROW from the Ailerons ;)
Thanks Brian I will give it a try this week. Sounds a bit challenging. I don't use Safe so I hope I have enough channels for this.
Just finished it today. Worked great but I am not gonna lie. It was a pain in the corn hole! Lol! It was quite envolved. Thanks for all you do in this hobby. The time you take to make these videos and help us all out here is awesome!
I have about 10 flights in this plane now but i notice that a few times I make a turn and it has nasty tip stall. Starts spiraling down with no control. I lost it once thank God very minor damage. But its happened a few times recently. I was able to recover the last few times but it was super close. Have you had this issue with this plane or the timber x? I fly The Extra 300 and like 8 other 3d type Stol planes and have never had this issue. Im starting to wonder if maybe the gyro was defective from the day I got it cause it always seems to happen at the same time frame on every flight. But maybe not it could be pilot error slowing it down too much during the turn. Anyways just wondering. Thank for all your work on here man. Your videos have been so helpful and I truly appreciated your channel.
You really know how to fly that plane!
I'm glad you think so! I feel inferior as a pilot with this plane. It's a beauty, but I'm just not a great 3D pilot.
Excellent job Brian and crew really good 👍🐓
Thanks! This plane was a hand full, and loads of fun to fly too!
thanks for your videos! Like them. Greetings from Munich/Germany
Glad you like them! Thanks Kai San - from the USA ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Brian would you recommend the su-30 as my first jet?
Just a couple of questions:- 1) aerobatic with the slats left off, what help are they to the aircraft 2) Have you tried the 3c 3300 amp batteries yet? 3) Done any night flying with it ?
1) Slats would generally hinder extreme 3D flying
2) 3S 3300mAh - I thought I did???
3) I fly in this video at night....so yes ;)
Great detail Brian, love your informative breakdown, I just bought one and I have 6 channel transmitter, if I don't connect the flaps will it still fly well?
That's a HUGE part of this plane, but you can for sure fly it without flaps - I would NEVER do that....but I'm a flaps snob.
Wow, I need one. Thank you guys.
New pic G Bro!??!?!
Nice bro might be my next plane lol but I already have the plain turbo timber so not sure yet!!! And was good to see you on FB with Jason and Steve about time horizon did that like I said on there your the only pilot I watch on UA-cam for reviews... happy flying
I'm glad I have you hypnotized ;) Now, buy more RC planes from the links - JK, we really appreciate you saying these things, and in front of Horizon Hobby is a definite bonus!!! We have such a great audience!
Brian Phillips well from what I can see your a good guy just showing the people in the hobby what it’s really about and don’t sugar coat anything and yes I wait until you review a plane before I buy. Wish you got the MotionRC airliner I have it and think you will love it, but I believe horizon has one up there sleeve as well. Stay safe bud you and yours and safe flying!!!! Looking forward to your next video.
I fly my umx timber at night the nav lights on it are pretty cool.
For sure!
Considering all the work you did, did a great job ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 👍🏻
Thank you 🤗
What a great night for a video guys! This plane has not caught my eye till now, I think I may need this one.........its a sickness
Yes, it is, and I have it bad!!!
Are you a beginner pilot wishing to buy this plane? I am a beginner pilot and I bought this plane because of this video and others like it, and because I wanted the lights for night flight. Here is an update on my thoughts about this plane after 10 or so flights:
1. Forget thoughts of flying in the dark. You lose depth of field when the sun goes down and a crash is likely for a beginner pilot. The lights are very cool, but they aren't for you.
2. Before flying this plane, I had flown a small park flyer (I forget the name), a Carbon Cub S+ and a Conscendo Evolution. This plane is a big step up from those planes in the sense that it is very fast and the control surfaces make it very twitchy for me. It rolls, climbs, loops, dives all very, very fast. Of course you can slow things down, but in trying to figure out how to slow things down you'll probably crash along the way. Get it up high becuase you are going to be flying some acrobatics when you don't mean to be flying acrobatics.
3. Landing is MUCH harder than it was for any of the prior planes I had flown. This is a heavier plane and it is easy to break the plastic in the fuselage that the landing gear screws into. If you are a beginner pilot, I would say a hard landing is the first way you will break this plane. And when you break that plastic in the fuselage, it is never as strong as it was after you glue it together again with epoxy. So you'll be applying epoxy to your fuselage around the the landing gear more than once. OTOH, if you have access to an experienced pilot that will buddy box with you, you should be able to avoid all the landing problems.
4. Unless you are just flying ovals, you probably won't be able to fly this scale the way Brian does in this video. You could just fly it on SAFE, which is what I did a lot, but eventually you'll want to fly the plane yourself, and when you do, it won't be a smooth flyer.
5. 4S power is a lot of power in this plane, but it's kind of made for 4S power. It flew much faster than what I was used to, and bad things happen much more quickly in this plane. You could just put a 3S battery in it, reduce the throws, throw in some EXPO, turn on SAFE, etc. but if you are doing all that it means you bought the wrong plane.
I have crashed my Night Timber X a few times, but it is still flying. HH sent me a new fuselage for free, so that was nice of them (I just put it together last night and it's like a new plane...anyone want a good deal on a Night Timber X?)
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I have just placed an order for the Turbo Timber. I wish I had done that in the first place. Brian told me to start with the Turbo Timber, but I didn't listen. (And Brian, if you are reading this, you should not have told me to "start" with the TT, but you should have told me that "the TT is a lot more fun than the NTX.")
One last point, if you don't want to fly 3D, if you consider yourself a scale flyer, then I'm not sure this is the plane for you even if you are an experienced pilot. Turbo Timber seems like the way to go for a scale experience in a plane like this, but I haven't flown one yet.
One very experienced pilot who is very much into STOL told me that he sold his Night Timber X and purchased a Turbo Timber because NTX was too heavy for good STOL. And the NTX is not even marketed as an all-out 3D plane.
I think part of the reason I purchased the NTX instead of the TT is because I was looking at the TT as closer to a beginner plane. Someone says "you aren't ready for the NTX" and I think "oh hell I can figure it out." Who wants to spend money on beginner equipment only to be unhappy with it after 8 or 9 flights (think of that first crappy transmitter you wasted $100 on)? That WOULD BE a reasonable way to look at it if the TT was built for beginners and the NTX was built for more experienced pilots. But that's not how they designed these planes.
The TT IS more suitable for intermediate pilots, but even if you are an expert pilot that doesn't mean you are going to pick the NTX over the TT, and the experience of the expert pilot I just mentioned is an example of that. It's about the kind of flying you want to do.
Don't get me wrong...I think this plane is everything Brian and others say it is. It's just that it's definitely not for beginners, and it isn't for every expert either. It's only halfway to a 3D plane, and it's halfway to a STOL plane. It'll give you a taste of each without really getting you there. And if you want to emulate the sort of flying Brian does in this video, then I would say you'd be better off with the TT.
You literally just too the words out of my brain. I just replied to Luke Gagnon, who asked about this as a second plane compared to the Maule...
Get a load of my reply to him, to help reinforce your comments, which are 100% spot on!
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Luke - HEAR ME ON THIS....JUST flew them both this weekend, and I was reminded of this...
The Maule is a great choice, BUT the Turbo Timber (not the Timber X) would be an even better choice. The flight envelope on the Maule is just a lot FASTER, not impossible, or even a bad choice at all for a second plane, but the Turbo Timber 1.5m is super forgiving, and flies a lot longer on a charged pack of the same size. I know you didn't want to hear this, since you're concerned about space in your car, but I can tell you with 100% certainty, you will thank me later... You will may be totally overwhelmed with the Night Timber X and I bet you'll be very disappointed, as a result- it's NOT a bad plane, but you have to be ON IT! It will stress you out!
Notwithstanding your transportation issues, as they're both pretty big...both of the LONGER wing span planes options are BETTER options, with the Turbo Timber being the best option for your "next" plane given your current plane is the Aeroscout (one of the easiest, and best beginner planes around, btw).
Turbo Timber 1.5m bit.ly/2CiTmSB (This plane is an AWESOME choice given your criteria)
Maule M-7 1.5m bit.ly/2Wrj1zz (This is a good choice...might be a TOUCH easier to transport than Turbo Timber)
Night Timber X 1.2m bit.ly/2CB9I9d (You will regret this one as plane 2 - sorry Luke)
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@@BrianPhillipsRC One question for you. Over in RCGroups.com a couple guys who did not like the Night Timber X for the same reasons I stated, purchased a Turbo Timber wing and said it now flies like a Turbo Timber. I know the rear stabilizer is different on the TT, but I went ahead and purchased a TT wing. Do you think this will do the trick, or do you think I should return the wing and just get a TT?
I just caught your ‘here’s how I store my planes’ (which was great and instructive) and during that video you mentioned you wished you had installed the slats. Will you do so in a follow up to see how much it degrades aerobatic performance? I have not done so on mind but think it might go far to reducing a stall tendency which has happened to me twice, once at low altitude and I did not react fast enough to keep its nose out of the ground. Broke the prop but all else was fine. Could only get an APC prop and they don’t work with the spinner.
I didn't install the slats, and don't have plans to do it on this particular plane. If you just caught that plane storage video, you wouldn't believe how many more planes are sitting down there now!!! It's getting crazy!
Thanks Brian, I just got mine for Christmas instead of reading the book I went step-by-step just like you did in the video because that’s the way I wanted mine to be set up the same way you did a perfect job you walked me right through it. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ I do have one question I have a DX6e is there anyway I can do motor reversing?
I don't think so, since you have to use that higher channel, like 7 or 8, if I remember right. Sorry about that William! I can add, the reverse thrust is kinda like CRAZY INSANITY in the making. I barely have the guts to use it, since it scares me half to death!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Brian I have one more question 🤪 I have a DX6e and I have programmed this plane different than all my other planes now if I want to change all my plans to be the same as this plane, (i’m still learning my radio) so I have to go into each plane and re-go through the configuration? Like I just bought them.
Nice flight 👍
Thanks 👍
I'm not trying to stir contention or discontent. So I did purchase this Night timber 10 days ago during Eflite's sale from a local shop while in Rocklin, Ca. While here Working for a railroad. However have you seen Hobby King's (oh I know, hobby King?¿) Night Tundra? Dang! It looks so cool. The port and starboard lighting is Kick Ass. I think my night timber still in the box..... May be for sale. 🤔
I think it looks cool, but when you find a Hobbyking plane that FLIES better than almost any Horizon Hobby plane, you will be dealing with the EXTREME EXCEPTION to the rule ;)
Why not BOTH???
@@BrianPhillipsRC Brian, thank you for replying. I wanted to see your take on it, as you've flown everything. Except perhaps SpaceX.
Although the lighting is super cool on the Tundra. The Timber is more versatile by design. I like the 3 or 4s option and that it can be flown lit up or not. Also I haven't been burned by H.H. with quality of craft or customer service. 🛩️
Good job Brian
Thanks ;)
I cant wait to get this!! The PREFECT Timber a side from the fact they STILL haven't designed a Top side battery Compartment....but The Timber is still PERFECT the way she is. Awsome video as usual Sir.....I thought about trying to make a battery Compartment similar to the UMX Timber.
I think they should have a cavity into the windscreen area, but still really like this plane, and it's a GREAT, very capable flyer.
What’s the most fun to fly. The X or the new 1.5m Turbo Timber Evo?
I like the Evo quite a bit MORE. I'm not inclined to the shorter winged Timber X or Timber Night X, but they are very cool still
Great video and so nice hearing you and wife talking. As I just got a Timber X I realized I should have bought the Night Timber X instead. Damn!
Thanks! I agree with your concern regarding the Timber X...why not Night X. Still a great plane!
@@BrianPhillipsRC I bite the bullet and order a Night Timber X also.
Flies like a dream!!!
It's Esteban, the great!!!
That is a damn lightbulb!
for sure!
Awesome aerobatic plane I got to get me one like that I wish they had a kit where I don’t have to get that expensive remote what do you recommend?
The NX8 would be best, but you can get a less expensive NX6 if you don't mind giving up the motor reversing.
NX Transmitters bit.ly/3mbVuNB
Great video. I was wondering why the battery plug seems to have an extension? Maybe I am missing something but it doesn't seem to need any more length, so what's it for?
They're for the LED's. This allows you to unplug the inside LED's if you're flying during the day.
Awesome! Eachine mini F4U Corsair next. 😁
Coming soon!
I gotta say, you are my goto instructional video guru when I buy a plane that you have highlighted.
I have noticed though that you don't measure the recommended throws. Is that because you trust the factory settings from Horizon/ e- flight?
I just don't do it. I prefer to get a feel for how it flies myself first. If it were PNP, or ARF, maybe...
Super nice review, i will totaly buy this. I have been flying for one Year now. 😁👌
Enjoy! It's a HANDFULL, so be prepared!!!
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Super i will I saw you have same radio as me, a Dx18 just love that radio. 🌞😁👌
Just got mine!
Nice! Enjoy!!!
Hi Brian & Megan (camera crew).
I really appreciate your video’s and watch a lot of them. I think I’ am having a problem with my AS3X modes or maybe I am misunderstanding how the AS3X should work. Hopefully it’s just my radio set up on this BNF Night Timber X. I have a Spektrum iX12. I have everything setup and working perfectly the way I like it including reverse throttle, except I can’t seem to get the AS3X modes (any of them) to work when I have Safe Select turned off. Everything appears to work fine on the “monitor mode” screen, even the Aux3 gain adjustment on the knob is working in the analog switch setup screen, but gain doesn’t show any change and nothing happens at the plane as far as stability.
It’s either the control surfaces are way too limited for my liking with Safe on or I have full range of control surfaces like I normally like it, but no AS3X gain/stability at all. I’ve done everything I can think of, including the obvious steps the manual shows, i.e. throttling up to activate the AS3X, but nothing works.
With no wind, or in light wind, no problems, but we have a lot of wind often, so I fly in gusty conditions a lot or I won’t be able to fly much at all, so I would like the AS3X to work, but like the fact that Safe is available.
Overall, the plane flies fantastically and does everything you ask of it easily! I enjoy flying it! I’m using Spektrum 4S 5000mAh 50C batteries. I would just like to have a little AS3X stability to help with gusty or unpredictable wind conditions as the plane seems very light and affected a lot by wind with everything turned off. I’d never used the Safe Mode until I needed to the other day and was glad to have it. It literally saved the plane as strong winds came up all the sudden and I was having a real tough time just keeping the plane in the air, to bring it back and land it. I'm pretty sure I know what AS3X feel like with Safe switched off, as our other planes that use it feel stable in wind including our other Timber X which feels very stable, yet extremely acrobatic. When I do the test shown on page 13 of the manual for the Night Timber X to see if AS3X is working, the control surfaces dont move. I can't seem to activate the AS3X. I’ve bound and rebound many times, even trying the Spectrum Night Timber Download models, the EFL13850 EFlite Night Timber X BNF Advanced setup & the EFL13850 EFlite Night Timber X BNF Basic with Reverse. Each time I bind, I’m getting the bind is complete and the double dance confirmation of the control surfaces, but with Safe turned off apparently no AS3X.
I still fly the plane, In fact I just flew it tonight, but something is definitely wrong , as it is a lot harder to fly right now than the other Timber X, even without wind. I have a regular BNF Timber X with the AR636A receiver for my wife and it’s AS3X works fine with Safe switched off, (quite stable).
You and Megan know your stuff, and so do a lot of you subscribers. Hopefully someone may know what I’m not understanding or what I’m doing wrong. Sorry for the super long comment everyone. Thanks again Team Phillips, for your very detailed & cool videos!
You can't shut off AS3X on this plane STOCK as a BNF. If you installed the Rx yourself (As a PNP) then you will be able to access forward programming if you're using AR637T or you can hook up to the PC with the AR636B.
I THINK you're feeling what I was feeling...this plane is TOUCHY. You have to put in a LOT of EXPO to make this plane fly like the 1.5m Timber, for example. This plane is way more 3D than the 1.5m Timber, and I think that's why you're feeling somewhat "out of control"...
Here's the short answer to a LOT of information you shared...this plane is harder to fly. I didn't even know you could control the AS3X gains on an AR636B...I thought that came with the AR637T / AR637TA...but I might be mistaken. When you bind, you're only picking between AS3X (Default) and SAFE Select - only SAFE (sensor aided flight envelope - auto leveling) is switchable if bound for SAFE Select....AS3X is never "off" unless you've reprogrammed the AR636B or the AR637T, and in which case, I have NO IDEA.
I'm sorry I can't answer any better for you. Maybe another of the viewers might have an idea. I think you'll need to clarify WHAT Rx you're using...was this plane a BNF? Has it been reprogrammed? Did you build from a blank profile? These questions will help me, and others who might be able to help you out.
I'm new to the hobby, I bought the carbon cub s2 as my first plane. Really have enjoyed it. Would the night timber x be a good 2nd plane or which plane would you recommend for a 2nd plane and would the dxs transmitter that came with the cub work on this? Thanks, I've watched many of your videos, great flying and info on the hobby.
Night Timber or Timber X would be poor choices for a second plane, in my personal opinion. They are CRAZY, and you will almost certainly feel very out of control. That being said, some make this move, and some are okay with it. The plane is great, but I wouldn't recommend it as a second plane.
HOWEVER
You might consider the 1.5m Turbo Timber in stead, which is a LOT less "hard" to fly, and you'll still probably think it's "Crazy". It's also a great value, and you will LOVE it in the "everyday" flight arena. It's amazing!
You might consider the UMX, if you're wanting something that'll fly in a small area...
Here's the links, but obviously it's up to you.
P.S. I have playlists, that show these planes, if you want to see them too... the playlists are organized by plane, but there's a TON of them ;)
Turbo Timber 1.5m bit.ly/2CiTmSB
Turbo Timber UMX bit.ly/3fxTDQd
Night Timber X 1.2m bit.ly/2CB9I9d
Good luck!
@@BrianPhillipsRC On this video you mention it is easy to fly so why wouldn't it be a good second plane? I have been looking at the E-Flite Apprentice STS 15e you did a video on but think this might be a better option as I can fly it in safe mode then when I advance I will have a plane I can do cool stunts with. So many options I keep changing my mind.....
Or this is the other option I am considering E-Flite Timber X STOL 1.2 meter
If you pick the night timber x or timber x you will want to make sure you have some low rates programmed to learn with unless your in safe mode of course. In safe you need 100% throws. If your deciding between the two timber’s I would get the night timber. It allows you to fly into dusk and dark hours. Love it!
Very nice Airplane.
I have an mini Apprentice S
Is that a good plane?
I am going to review it soon, but I've heard it's great!
Love that chicken switch...haha
LOL - Nice!
@@BrianPhillipsRC you are a better pilot than you say you are..
Got the standard X, Turbo and the little UMX version and to my mind these X versions are the the best. It does everything the bigger span Turbo version can do and even more.
When you consider you can then do it all off water as well, I wonder if this new night version now takes the title from the standard X of having the widest flight envelope of any RC plane ever made?
Stock, possibly ;) I love the plane, but dedicated stick time, with one plane, is a struggle I have of late - as you can imagine...so I think this one will "blossom" to a favorite, if I get time to fly her a lot!
The main reason i always deal with horizon they are great people and have awesome customer service.
I've been happy with the VAST majority of experiences with Horizon Hobby. The one or two that were less than desirable, they either made it right to me or I figured a way to make something work.
How is it you’re able to taxi backwards? Pardon my ignorance.
Great video, I grabbed the new UMX version this week... keen for the real thing.
No ignorance, it's an uncommon thing in RC planes, but becoming more common. The ECS (Electronic Speed Control) that runs the motor now will run the motor backward as well! Makes for a crazy sound and lot less efficiency, but it's a sight to see, especially in the air!!! This is accomplished by using another channel to change the condition of the ESC...very quick and easy, but it is CRAZY to fly and have reverse thrust...a skilled 3D pilot can do amazing things with it!!!
WOW you made me want that thing now lol
I'm glad you say that :)
Do it ;)
Night Timber X 1.2m - bit.ly/2yQNYEN
Camera crew is such a calming influence. Never sack your camera crew ha ha
I would be the one getting fired ;)
Brilliant video!!! Thank you and your wife so much!!!! Really difficult to get to all the wires and the binding... no comment. Brilliant suggestions!!! Question: Do you always do the setup manually or is this just for the video? I normally download the data from spektrum and via my SD card load it onto my radio and then adjust it if necessary.
yes. I don't download them (ever). I've heard a few guys suggesting to download the files, but I like to have a tight control over what's going on with the plane, and then I can better respond to issues. Some are self-inflicted, no doubt.
Hey Brian no need to feel bad your very busy guy, love all the new videos posted. I actually called horizon and they wanted to send me out a servo that was on backorder? My concern was the plane never made it off the kitchen table and they wanted me to install a new servo on a brand new plane? I insisted on a new plane so i sent the defective one back and reordered a new one. I'm watching my account to make sure it is credited. The new one came and its assembled and bound without any problems so far.
Cool, thanks. Firm and fair, and they WILL take care of you. They're one of the few hobby companies that will do this. This is one of the many reasons I love horizon.
Brian yes its only one side of the wing the left side and it vibrates like it has a bad servo on the alerion serrvo or flap servo? Does not matter if im holding the plane or its sitting level, as soon as i test the control surface it go crazy? But when i touch the flap or alerion surface it stops until i actuate that control surface. This plane has never made it off the kitchen table or my stand?
Now I feel really bad that it's been 6 days since I replied to comments (crazy week - So sorry). The servo is almost certainly broken. You will have to trouble shoot a bit to figure out which one is which. Pull the wing, and see if the servo wires are hooked up backward (yes, I've done it too)...then if they are...fix it...if not, you'll have to get into surgery mode.
If you wish, you might choose to call Horizon Hobby and request a replacement PART, or see what they offer. They will probably give you a few things to try, but just be firm and fair, and don't take "no" for an answer. You'll get what you need...but don't forget what you need might be a whole wing, and they'll try to get you to take a servo. I've found it's easier to start with a whole new plane, and work your way back to the wing...but that's just been my experience.
Thanks for a very informative video, where you also cover the less than perfect stuff, which some other folks don’t seem to. Could you put down the three settings your talk about for dual rates and expo (crazy mode, etc)? Hard to copy from the video.
You mean my "Standard" started settings?
Here's what I do, but this is highly subjective.
All tied to the same switch, but you could split them up, if you want to be fumbling around while flying - LOL :)
Aileron...
Expo Rates
Pos1 10% 100%
Pos2 20% 100%
Pos3 30% 90%
Rudder...
Expo Rates
Pos1 10% 100%
Pos2 20% 100%
Pos3 30% 90%
Elevator...
Expo Rates
Pos1 10% 100%
Pos2 20% 100%
Pos3 30% 90%
I bought this after watching your video 🤙🏼
Nice!! Thanks - I bet you're gonna love it! Reverse thrust will be cause fro a change of drawers, so plan for that when you use it mid-air the first time!!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC i dig your videos, really helpful. Thanks! Mine came with a glitchy vibrating aileron servo that gave out on the second flight , i hit up horizon kinda bummed but the plane is durable for sure ha
Awesome upload Brain..great camera work..💯❤❤❤💯 1000+ likes too both 👊👊👍
Much appreciated, thanks!!!!
Pure fun right there! Not a 3D pilot my fanny! Your owning that thing!
I promise, I'm not ;) So many more skilled 3D pilots out there - WAY more skilled too - but I like flying them :)
I have a couple years of experience . I stop fly for a while and this is my first year back. The super cub lp was my first !!!!!!!!!! Was my first and aero scout looks to be the best thing next to it so that should be the best true first airplane
Habu STS 70mm RTF - bit.ly/3fRaLj7
Apprentice 1.5m RTF bit.ly/2CfTCBY