@@kathrinjohnson2582 - He hasn't killed me, but i am convinced that he is a dark triad narc, and not safe to be around. I moved away from the area. I think it was a case of counter-phobia or anti-phobia, or whatever that term is.
It just really hit me watching this video how much research and effort you put into making all your videos. It's like you've researched writing a paper, wrote the paper and now present it to us. That all takes a lot of time. So appreciative, thank you.
I agree. I had to make a video for work recently. It was about 10 minutes long. It took me two days. Of course, I don’t do it daily like these guys do. Still. A lot of work goes into this.
I worked with the mother of one of his victims. She was a very sweet lady, and what Ridgeway did to her child broke her heart. She never really recovered and died in her early 40's--yet another victim, really, of the Green River Killer. Weirdly enough, I also worked with Ted Bundy's mom.
That's so sad for your co-worker. If you can share, what was Louise like? I'm sry this stuff was so close to you. Bundy was in Utah when we were at school there.
Thinking is must be something in the water. My adult daughter recently lived out there for about a year; disaster from start to stop. And this following several years in Chicago, for crying out loud. She talked about the "Seattle Freeze", having found it almost impossible to make new friends.
@@arturczerwinski2616 I assumed he meant street hookers have pimps, but then he mentioned phoning"the business manager to make an appointment, so maybe these poor girls were more of an escort? Either way, it was a very clever reference and I'm going to try to remember it.
@Turquoise Cheetah I saw refrigerator trucks in my city filled with people's dead family members. A friend of mine died. COVID-19 is a serious threat and making it about politics and not public health is idiotic.
@Turquoise Cheetah Your 100% correct , this is total fakery.... started two days after the fake Russian collusion case was thrown out and the impeachment fakery. It was a bullshit virus , designed to take out US Economy and President Trump
Have you ever been in a fist fight? Ur adrenaline is pumping and the events leading up to the fight are usually very clear in ur brain, the fight itself is foggy, guessing thats why they remember so much
He was creepy AF (Greenriver Gary, not Dr. Grande) , my father worked at Kennworth at the same time, had a house a block over from my sister, and in '86 he tried to "offer a ride" while I was at the bus stop on Pac Hwy. I cheered once they got him. Thanks again Dr. Grande, love the lessons.
@@michaelknapp3702 live to warn others, at the time it was just a random creepy dude, at the time it was his ugly red pick up though his vehicle changed now and then
Spoke w massage business owner who said the murder were by police. Mother's said their daughters would not be prostitution. Police setting model to frighten girls into prostitution. They tried to force massage business owner to conduct prostitution. Police said they needed large supply to service conventions and visitors to Seattle/King county. They were trying to frame her for a crime cause she would not cooperate. I believed her. She appeared at my door at night w two teenage children. I was in great fear for her. I believed her. She said victims were all posed on edge of river holding bouquet of weed flowers. Cops had the opportunity to pick up these girls w/o suspicion. I was whistle blower about racketeering by city officials and a state senator. State Senator took me to dinner and told me to cut my losses and move since Mayor did not like me. Selling unopened easements already owned by 100 year old law they kept from owners not respecting law and informing selling property owners they had to pay half appraised value. Money not going into city treasury. City Kirkland. Falsified a misdemeanor and had kangaroo court trial by Municipal judge whose husband Superior Court. Hebrew Appellate Judge and she now Superior Judge. Nepotism uf you ask me. Same County. King County horribly corrupt no wonder current problems. . Ridgeway not likely murderer of most Green River victims. Believe was the cops. Seen enough dirty cops and chiefs working under color of law. I was nursing consultant with State DSHS. Did not even have a parking ticket. Unfortunately moved to as bad or worse corrupt City. They have victims who can identify thieves to pstcg units. "Imagined thefts" . Called Kidnapping by cops w help of judges. Expert orders. Stop drinking the fluoride and turn off TV. Most news slanted propaganda. Nit required ti tell truth. It is entertainment owned by six families/gvmt. Stop listening to speculation. Wasting your time. YT removing informative truthful videos. New ones now building up. Find them.
Same style murders started un Spokane before Ridgeway arrested. Posed with flowers in hand. Women who refused to prosecute. Used to force others to become prostitutes. Would you deny many forced into the business?
In Seattle could see cops involved when forcing massage business to service horny men. They need to teach teen boys how to take care of their own needs. So many times against children, animals (rape of animals legal in NM), and children. Need mandatory depo provera or castration but read they use other methods. Should work on pill to stop the obsession. Men think of sex several times a minute. Given right for release using animals!!! Don't believe Ridgeway had time to kill 49 women. I don't buy it. Speculation again.
In a documentary, Ridgeway expression anger at his wife having an affair when he was in the army and he was soliciting prostitutes. I always found that double standard to be quite interesting.
It’s the narcissism. He only cared about how/when things effected HIM. Her cheating would have damaged his ego. Her feelings, on the other hand, were inconsequential to him. Completely Irrelevant.
He was very careful. Oddly, he dated my sister twice and as she felt he was creepy, she avoided him after the second date. Years later, she found out why he gave creepy "vibes"
My dad knew him as well. He worked a few odd jobs with him. Gary had been to our HOME. My mom and sister (I was very young) didn't ever want him back to the house. A few months later and my dad saw him again. Creepy and non descriptive. Mom said she barely remembered what he looked like, just remembered the feeling he gave her. I think this is why he was over looked so much, he was very unassuming and someone that blend in even if you passed him every day.
When I was 17, a nice looking sheriff deputy seemed to follow me and my friends around. Offered rides. We never accepted. His name was Gerard Shaffer. A serial killer. Creepy!
Doctor Grande's content is up there on top with the likes of Jim Can't Swim. Absolutely amazing. The cream of the crop for content on psychology and true crime. Just so well done and of the highest quality. You should be on TV. You make better content than any of the big name media corporations tbh.
How devastating to be touched by that kind of crime. The loss of your friend like that would rob you of any sense of innocence you had left . I can't imagine what you must have went through. To see how ordinary he looked and how much he got away with is chilling. I lost my best friend to a murderer when I was 14 and I think he killed others too. I know it changed me so I feel for you. 👋🫂
It’s particularly heartbreaking when children and young people die. Their loved ones (which includes friends) are always left wondering what they would have become or accomplished if they had the chance at life. The mourning of that potential life cut short never ends. One also changes their own life path in unimaginable and unintended ways. You are always left wondering what your own life would have looked like had that friend lived. May Andrea rest in eternal peace. God be with you and yours. Thank you for sharing.
I grew up in Auburn, WA and TO THIS DAY, i get chills remembering when they found the last victim. It was a steep, winding road, and once at the top, there was a little old house on the edge of the ravine, surrounded by forest. Beautiful view. But now... a sad reminder that an evil monster lived among us.
I drove that winding highway past where they were searching for his bodies...bone chilling to this day. Also, in Lakewood I suspect he was at Sambos. A all-night restaurant. He was at counter as my friend and I sat close by. He kept looking at us. Being in the area of Tacoma known as a strip where prostitutes worked it all added up by seeing his picture. Such a monster.
"Worst possible combination of personality traits" and still gets married three times. I'll never understand how these absolute monsters are able to get married and have kids.
Well if you are raised in a very abusive home and don't know much else growing up, then the acceptance of abusive behaviour can become highly normalized in your life. Also some people may be willing to put up with abuse for the benefits of a relationship for various reasons; maybe they suffer from a mental health disorder where being in a relationship with that person helps stabilize them and puts them in a better mental state than they would be on their own, maybe they gain financial aid from their abuser and the alternative is homelessness or worse, etc... Often times the abuser may not show signs of abuse in a relationship until they have made their victim dependent on them and the victim doesn't realize that they have been groomed and manipulated by their abuser until it is too late. Some monsters are able to hide all of their abusive and violent behaviour from their families to the point that the family refuses to believe that that person could ever do such things. Others may experience such a deep self-loathing and hatred that they feel deserving of the abuse they experience in life - this mental state as well is often a product of manipulation and psychological abuse at the hands of their abuser. There are so many reasons why someone may end up with a monster.
@@hoathanatos6179 Yep, narcsissists lie ALL THE TIME, their whole persona is fake, they are tragic empty shells. Add sociopaths and psychopaths who literally can't feel the same normal emotions as others do, like empathy or sympathy. They do not have those emotions at all. I guess they can make up a fake persona, and make a family with that, but that double life is somehow very very fucked up.
I'd like to know *how* all these inadequate and horrible people can get dates, partners, and even married whilst I can't even get asked for coffee. Does this mean my chances at a relationship are relative to how crazy/wicked I can become(or act that way) Okay, I can do that Let's see how it goes. But now I've got to go to Google Earth to find a body disposal site. And find out where to buy rope.
Ridgeway's last wife said that he made her feel like a newlywed every day, he never got mad and did nice little things for her everyday like bringing her little gifts and flowers. He must have seen her as pure, almost saintly.
I’m glad you also mentioned the dangers of pseudoscience - I don’t understand how people are so easily pressured into polygraphs in particular, when we see all the time they are not infallible. Great analysis, Ridgeway creeps me out the most out of all serial killers. I can’t believe he was able to fly under the radar for so many years. Especially when he supposedly had such a low IQ. I just watched the Catching Killers episode on him and it was insane hearing them read out victim after victim when he was finally caught and charged, and him casually answering “Guilty”, like he was admitting to parking violations.
The cops only use the polygraph to control you in the interrogation room. If they want you it wont matter if you pass it or not. They will come back and tell you that you failed even if you pass. They didn't want Gary for this. The detective claims that he did but that is bullshit. They have put people to death without any physical evidence at all. They had probable cause to put surveillance on him. They just didn't want him for it. By the way, Don't let people with a so called low IQ fool you.
The only time he showed any emotion was when a victim’s family member told him he’d forgiven him. His jaw began quivering and he broke out in tears. So, I guess he was touched that he was shown compassion, but he certainly had none for others.
But what does this mean? That’s what I don’t understand. And why I watched this video. He also did cry when a woman spoke about growing up without her mom (whom he had killed). Like what thoughts could have caused the tears. He said himself it’s not empathy. What is it? Self pity? For being caught?
Also, he seemed to really care about his wife. I don’t get that either. He’s a mystery to me. Maybe this is the difference between a psycho born and one created. Maybe he doesn’t fit the mold.
@@dontmindme633 in the short mini series on him, He mentions feeling sad for one of the victims cause he chose to kill her while she faced him and he said the expression on her face made him feel bad for killing her.
HaD to have been the father IMO. Although I’m not one hundred percent accurate, nor can I make that claim, I’m just speculating what may be obvious, given the circumstances of the scenario.
Your analysis was excellent, you covered almost everything in 30 minutes. Most people don’t cover Gary Ridgeway (The Green River Killer). I read Anne Rules book, “ The Green River Killer”, an excellent book, years ago. I also saw the Netflix movie called Green River Killer, which is also excellent but horrific. This man is a monster, just because you’re abused doesn’t mean your become a killer. I came from an abusive home and I’m the opposite, an empath. I can’t believe that he is still alive in prison and all his victims died at his hands!! I’m so glad that they named and showed pictures of all the girls who were found to give them a face to their name. These girls were victims at home and then at the hands of a monster!!
I read Ann Rule's book about the murders years ago and she did (as usual) a great job showing the victims as real people and not simply a serial killer's body count. Your thoughts on the psychology of the killer is really interesting to hear. Thanks.
I have mixed feelings about Ann Rule - in most of her books she can’t say enough good things about the cops involved. I was very pleased to see that she did not do that in this book.
His third wife had no idea her husband was a serial killer. He had fooled her and behaved like a perfect gentleman towards her. It was heartbreaking to watch her story.
Yes, I saw that programme. The difference between Ridgway with Judith and at his trial was actually horrifying. It was like a reptile had slithered out of its lair.
Thanks for the additional context. In the video when he mentioned that they'd stayed married basically up untill the trial I was kind of taken aback. But sadly it makes sense that this monster would have fooled and manipulated his wife. Hope she is doing OK (or as well as possible) now.
@MarieJesne: yes, she's doing fine. She has remarried I think and is happy now. I think that came out in the documentary. It may have been an episode of "Who the Hell Did I Marry?"
It's not that he fooled her, he probably* genuinely cared for her, though whether that is simply a manifestation of a madonna-whore complex is open to debate. *as much as a serial killer can care about anyone 😬
My uncle worked with Ridgeway for decades. Ridgeway worked in the paint dept & my uncle restored vintage cars, so my uncle got painting advice from Ridgeway a number of times.
Not for lack of trying. DNA had to be the linchpin in catching him. I feel so horrible for the families but also the officers who devoted Years to catching him. Their dedication if amazing
We have Dave Reichert to thank for that. If you live in Washington state, consider not voting for that incompetent f***. He's currently running for governor.
I grew up 5 minutes from green river, walked around the rivers footpath with my mom as a kid, and I’ve drove by the truck factory he worked at hundreds of times, every once in a while I just get this uneasy feeling when I really think about the horror that took place here.
Too bad you and the hundreds of other people who now claim to have had preternatural "feelings" that pointed to Gary with their 20/20 hindsight didn't speak up back then. Kinda like a guy who watches a magician perform a trick and then says "I knew he was gonna do that," but is never able to tell you what the magician is going to do until after it's been done.
One of my friends his sister that's one of the Green River Killers victims, Opal Mills is her name. First person of ever gotten to know whose family member or someone close to them was a victim of a serial killer makes it so much more real I can tell you that I get chills just hearing this man's name mentioned
Ridgeway lived about 40 minutes away. I can remember being terrified, seeing newspaper headlines. When he was most prolific, it seemed we saw poor girls' faces under the next day's headlines reading, another dead girl! It was really the talk about town. The taxi driver you mention was an odd bird (in the beginning imo, he wanted you to believe he was the guilty party)! He spoke really odd, paused when speaking for so long, it got uncomfortable. He'd be very vague and suspicious acting. Then after the cops turned up the heat, he changed directions pretty quick because it seemed one day he was Killer Mr. X. After speaking with the police he became normal and very helpful, including some interviews, where he got his 15 minutes of fame. I just read, 'about 50% of the world's serial killers seem to come from a 200 mile radius around Seattle (Bundy, Ridgeway, Dodd, Yates, Alcala and that pig farmer, Pickton). I wonder why Seattle draws these awful creatures to the beautiful NW? Interesting analysis Doctor! So glad to see your healthy face! You and yours stay well! 😷💞👏🌟🌷
@@MaxOakland Well.... Idk, there was a task force set up. Honestly, they were getting so much heat from the public (which isn't what history has shown when prostitutes are the victims), they were stretched to the max...I really felt sorry for them, because everyone wanted this dude off the streets! Imo, I just think cops had not seen a murderer this 'clever', This was before real profiling, DNA advances, etc., plus look at him! He looks like your best friends' son! Stay healthy Max! Thanks for your comment! 😷🌍✌🍀💕🌷
I think his intelligence was higher than that, probably average intelligence for a tradesman say 95 he had an eye for detail, very careful, plenty of common sense, probably a psychopath.
@The Senate IQ is a correlation, not causation of intelligence that's how I put it; it focusses (Depending on the test) on certain types of intelligence, it has its pros and cons but I would not say it's the be all end all. A decent metric though but hopefully in the future, we develop even better methods.
When he was burying the body on Jovita Blvd, he said he heard someone walk by. That was me. I could see the white van, before he heard me and turned his light out. I couldn't see any finer detail than that. And I was on foot, so he could've easily finished and been out of there before I could get to the nearest house. Cell phones were just coming out then, and I didn't have one. Didn't realize what I'd seen until later. Van hadn't been identified then, and it was going to be more than an hour before I'd reach a phone.
One of the most disturbing things about Gary, to me, was from a detective's account. Gary changed trucks a lot. Colors, makes, and models. About 100 times. He could remember every make, model, and color or every truck he owned. He spoke of his trucks with affection, but he could seldom remember the names or anything personal about his victims.
Thank you Dr G for mentioning the pseudo-scientific nature of polygraphs. Here's a direct quote from a polygraph tester: "There's actually only two ways you can fail a polygraph: the first is if you failed to follow my instructions [...], the second way is if you choose to lie to me today". Oh right, so the machine's infallible? That means that upon failing the polygraph, that would be a conviction. Now we can move straight to sentencing. If a "polygrapher" said the same "only two ways"-stuff to me I would point out to the him/her that if their statement were true, then a good proportion of the existing criminal justice system would be totally unnecessary, time- and money-wasting, and therefore in need of immediate abolition. Funny to think that a lie detecting person would start off the whole proceedings with a lie of their own.
It's like a tarot card reading or reading your palm; it's just a tool that cops use to try to get the suspect to cave. There are some Very Good reasons that lie detector tests are Not admissible evidence in any court of law.
Good luck with that..."normal" people can't begin to understand how a psychopaths brain works. The so called experts have to work with what these lunatics GIVE them...which isn't much.
Wow! I had no idea that the number of murders he committed was that high and that his reign of terror went on for that long. A monster on so many levels, and the chilling thing is, he didn't look like a complete psychopath. Great and very thorough analysis you put together! Thank you for all the time and effort you put into these!!
My brother and a friend worked at Kenworth in Renton Washington at the time Ridgeway worked there. They were calling him Green River Gary years before he was arrested. He was questioned years prior by law enforcement for the killings. It was determined at the time that he wasn’t the guy, but the knick name stuck. As we all know now, he was really the Green River Killer. It’s a great salmon and steelhead river by the way.
I love your factual presentation of the details. It makes for a very professional and unbiased discussion. "the victim's business manager" are phrases that keep the discussion dignified. Thank you.
Very interesting analysis , Dr. Grande. I especially was intrigued by the way his high conscientiousness protected him for so long and compensated for an apparently low IQ. “Perfect storm,” indeed.
This analysis was very insightful and thorough. Excellent job Dr. Grande! And congratulations on 250K subs!!!❤️🎉👏🏼 I am very happy for you, and so impressed to see that in less than 2 months you have 50k more subscribers!!! That’s due to your commitment to excellence and hard work! Wish you the very best and a lot of success, you deserve it:)
I never realized how much he did to evade capture, very interesting. He always looked especially dead-eyed to me. I feel so sorry for the terror and pain he inflicted on those poor vulnerable women while he held ALL the advantages. I also feel sorry for the young boy Gary was with a sick mother...it's all very sad.
Agreed! One of the few murderers with a cause. Right or wrong, agree or disagree with his reasons, and despite his obviously disgusting methods, it's incredibly interesting and tragic on many levels from the squandered potential of the perp to the victims and survivors of his tactics. I've read quite a bit of his work and he's obviously a really bright dude, even if he seems to have a "baby/bathwater" problem with his analysis. It's wild that he went the way that he did. Sad story all around.
“he obsessed over true crime literature” woah how disgusting imagine sharing that trait with a serial killer ha i’m definitely not obsessed with that gross shit haha
Your point about his IQ was very interesting. Years back I worked at the Mentally Retarded Defendant Program (currently the Developmentally Disabled Defendant Program) in Florida. Many of the defendants had social skills and some criminal intelligence that appeared to be well beyond their histories of academic achievement and intelligence testing. Although he was never convicted due to being Incompetent to Proceed, Eddie Lee Mosley eluded Broward County detectives for 15 years. There might not be enough information on him, but I would love you to consider doing an analysis on him. I really enjoy your careful thoughtful videos. I get so tired of all the hype on UA-cam.
@The Senate The police explained that in Eddy's case they were looking for someone who did not belong in the area, whereas, Eddy was there all the time. He was known as the guy who went around collecting cans to sell for recycling. He most of the time also chose prostitutes that were known to have drug addictions. So much of his murders got very little attention from the local authorities--sad really.
@The Senate It's not strange at all when you consider the average IQ of police officers. Cops are stupid. And this is intentional so they don't question the fucked up system they're upholding.
There are an awful lot of people who are intelligent without being intellectual or academic. It didn't help that Ridgway was dyslexic. I don't know how you would score highly on an IQ test as a dyslexicc I'd say he was far smarter than would show up on IQ. EDIT: I'm not justifying Ridgway in any way, btw, he is a complete monster. The video of him in his trial is scary compared to the photos of him with his third wife.
Thank you so very much, Dr. Grande! This serial killer seems to be a bit *different* than what we usually see with such a high death rate. I'm glad to hear that asking a killer if they're a killer doesn't really work. I had assumed this, but we all need facts! Your effort and dedication to this channel is very appreciated. And, as I have before, I must say that you present each video with a sense of seriousness and without judgement. I respect this so very much. I hope you and your loved ones are safe, healthy, and/or at peace.
28:38 If I might add; "Are you the green river killer?" was probably a way for those wimmen working in a high-risk environment to feel just a little bit safer. Maybe a potential killer would flee, or act in a revealing way when asked, so the women could flee, or get a chanse to call for help. Most probably knew it was "stupid" to ask this, but again, in a work environment where physical harm, and even death is a daily factor, people tend to cling to all kinds of "silly" things, even if they know it has no or little effect. Anywhoz, I enjoyed this episode, and it was great that you could make it a long one. =) Keep up the good work, and stay healthy mr Todd-Man =)
I’ve observed numerous people in a variety of vulnerable situations asking “you aren’t a serial killer I hope?” It’s said off the cuff and yet somehow knowingly that the asker is putting their personal safety at risk. We are strange creatures us human beings!
@@christinapotter8526 I’ve asked something akin at times - viewing a rental, helping someone such as jumping a car....in a way it’s saying to the person “I’m at least somewhat aware this may not be the safest situation....and I COULD be prepared.” One response to me by a man showing a house was “well, it’s not like you left a note telling anyone where you’d be”. Which I actually did. I couldn’t wait to get out of that basement of that house and after his comment I stayed looking toward him and as far away as I could. Hindsight, I should have followed my gut and just walked/ran out.
I was born in the 60's and I remember this case well as it developed and changed over the years. I was in high school when it first started being talked about in the papers. I had a severe hatred for my mother through my high school years because of my EXTREMELY abusive and violent step-dad and I remember being so scared that I would end up having tendencies like Ridgway did in regard to negative thoughts about my mother because of the relationship I had with my mother and her continuing to let my monster of a step-dad back into the house. This lasted into my mid 20's and I ran away from home frequently when still living at home so I moved out permanently when I had just turned 17, but as time passed I ended up having quite a normal marriage and three children whom I worship the ground my kids walk on. So the fears I had never came to fruition and I thank God for that. I used to pray so fervently with tears in my eyes that I would never end up like Ridgway. I definitely didn't. I have four grandchildren now and I LOVE it! Those grandkids and my grown kids (My oldest is 31) give me such joy and it was so good to leave behind the 9 years of SEVERE abuse and neglect that I encountered as a child. My mother continued to let my step-dad back into the house even after his worst beatings of my mother and my two sisters and I. Seeing my step-dad beat my mother so severely and at times seeming to kill her made me have horrible fear that he would kill her and I would be left with him to raise me. That still has an effect on me even with me now being 53 years old. My step-dad left a life-long terror in me that I have learned to face and control. So most people don't understand how having such a terrible childhood can leave certain people feeling like they are going to grow up to be violent or a serial killer if a known serial killer had much the same childhood as they did. My step-dad died when I was 20 years old and I hadn't seen him since I was 13 years old, but I continued to "carry" him around with me and still have remnants of the trauma he caused in my mind. Seeing my mother beaten with the pronged end of a dryer cord until her back was severely punctured and deeply lacerated made me almost catatonic for days. I didn't talk for two years after that night. My step-dad did more things to her that night that I don't talk about online. My step-dad was a monster and I literally went and urinated on his grave after he died. It wasn't as satisfying as people like to fantasize about when they say they are going to do such things to certain people's grave after that person's death. I prayed all my life to keep bitterness out of my heart because I just didn't want to go down that slippery slope. So first hearing about the things later in life about Ridgway made me so very thankful that I never even thought of being violent or murderous toward women at all. I believe that it actually pushed me the other way toward being a person to champion causes for battered women. After seeing my mother and sisters beaten in unnatural ways so bad, especially my mother, it made me repelled so bad. I was a kid in school that protected girls fiercely. I was a runt of a kid, but I still stood up to the bullies that treated girls so bad. I took the beating for the girl and didn't mind that beating at all. It's not that I am bragging, I am just making a point. This point being that when I got a beating for getting between a boy and girl while he was shoving around or touching that girl in a very inappropriate way and I got a beating for it, I realized how much better I felt about that beating than the beatings I got from my step-dad and the beatings he gave my mother and sisters. That simple realization made me know that I would continue to live my life that way. There's a lot more to this story of my VERY violent step-dad, but I'll save that for maybe another time. My main point is that the things I saw in regard to the SEVERE beatings that my step-dad perpetrated on me, my mother, and my sisters made me terrified that I would end up like the serial killers that I saw in the news and read novels about in the library. I read 6 grade levels above my age because I learned advanced phonics and comprehension starting at age 3. I have no idea why my mother did this with me, but I have always had extremely high reading comprehension skills and soelling/punctuation/grammar skills. So I read in my very early childhood all about serial killers and just what kind of childhood each of them had and it unnerved me in regard to my own childhood. But I've made it through life pretty well and never had tendencies toward violence of any kind, especially murdering women and having attraction toward my mother. That just repels me in a VERY BIG way, thank God. I wish I could save them all from violence and murder. As always, I very much enjoyed your analysis and in-depth commentary. I have been kind of binge watching many of your videos I admire you greatly. I like how soft-spoken and articulate you are. You are very easy to listen to and I never find my mind wandering. I immensely appreciate the amount of time and effort you obviously spend in compiling and organizing the information you present in your videos. I can definitely surmise that you spend much time in every aspect of the preparation of the information and in editing the video itself. You make it very clear that you don't use just one source that you glean the presented information from. The things you say indicate multiple sources of information that you have accessed in order to get the most accurate and complete information possible. This makes the presentation so interesting because it helps we viewers know how convoluted, patchy, incomplete, biased, or just downright tabloidesque some sources are and always will be. You do all of the hard work so that we viewers don't have to and that makes it a pleasure to have such analysis presented that is an awesome result of the fruits of your intensive labor. So I am very much appreciative of your hard work and the analyses you bring to us. I'll be back for more and more. Okay, now I'm going to suggest an analysis of someone that you are probably going to laugh and think I'm totally nuts for suggesting analysis of this person, but just me asking is worth a shot to see if you'll do it. So here goes: I want to hear your analysis of Jesus Christ. Yes, your eyes are not failing you. Jesus Christ. I have no idea how you feel about this man, but I know you are very capable of unbiased analysis based on the accounts of His life as told in the New Testament portion of the Bible. I very much want to hear just what you think of Him and His life, mind, and the mentality you believe He had as His travels and encounters took Him to many places. Now, of course, I have no idea just what your beliefs are, but I want your analysis to be purely as an observer in the secular sense. If you are a Christian I want you to give your beliefs a place in your analysis and conclusions about Him. I'm requesting this analysis because I've done this before with my Psychiatrist and Psychologist and others that are mental health professionals. After the first time I did this, I found it to be even more interesting and intriguing than I had first anticipated. So every mental health professional I come into contact with, I suggest that they do this. Every one of them have said they were very glad that I had suggested it because it opened their eyes to things about how they view their own belief system (5 of these professionals are Christian, 3 are agnostic, 4 are atheist, and one is Mormon) and the world around them and as a whole. It was VERY interesting to read just what they all wrote. It made me learn a tremendous amount about my own beliefs, me as a person among other people, and so much about my own mortality. So you're definitely not the first mental health professional that I've suggested this to. I'm not doing this to influence you in any way, shape, or form. It is purely an intellectual exercise. If you do decide to take up my suggestion, I hope you'll decide to make a video about it. But if you don't, I totally understand. You have a certain YT following and I don't ever want you to do anything that could possibly be so polarizing. If you aren't a man of faith in Him then that isn't something I'm going to use against you or for you. That's your business and no one else has the right to tell you what you should or shouldn't believe. It's just that simple. I am a man of faith in Jesus Christ myself and have been for MANY years. I see belief in God much differently than most people of faith. I don't blab it everywhere. The Bible itself says we are to keep our mouths shut and just live a life of humility and treat others as we would like ourselves treated. Even praying isn't said to be a time of blabbing and a bunch of fancy, articulate words like a speech. (Yeah, look at this gigantic post. LOL) But, anyway, I very much like hearing different individuals' views in regard to Jesus Christ. I never see myself as particularly intelligent and I like to hear the analysis of JC as given by people whom I see as highly intelligent. I'm a Civil Engineer and I don't think that that makes me smart. It's just something that I find incredibly interesting. Okay, I'll finally stop yammering on and on now. I hope you take up my suggestion. I promise you that if you decide not to or you do decide to and tell me you don't want to make it into a full-fledged video, I will totally understand and I will NEVER tell anyone else that you did so. That's your prerogative and business, not mine. But I do hope you do. Thank you for taking the time to read this novelette I've written here and for considering my words and ideas. It is much appreciated. Take care and God bless.
Pardon me, but who are we, mere mortals to analyse the Son of God? Certainly we can talk about Him, love, worship and pray to Him, read about His life and try to emulate it, but *analyse* God Himself? The mere idea is somewhat absurd.
There are only a few UA-cam channels I watch. I’m more of a documentary gal, but your output is just fantastic. Logic, understanding, dry wit… ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Always satisfied
If you search Todds videos, he has many videos about serial killers, and I think he has some about the traits that is often common among serial killers. Psychopathy, Sadism and so on. Sure, sadism is not a typical serial-killer trait, but some types of serial killers have this in common. BTK killer is one, while Dahmer was probably not a sadist, even though he did some terrible things to his victims. Anywhoz, just surf your way on Todds list of uploads, and you will find alot. Happy easter, and stay healthy =)
I agree that this cases are fascinating. However I feel like doing a blanket episode of them might rob Dr Grandes videos of their fantastic minutia. He is so good at zeroing in on all the little details people often overlook. But again, I totally agree with most of your sentiment. Also who here saw “dr grande” and “serial killers” and made a high pitched squeak and a dance? Just me? Cool. Cool.
My take is that serial killers are all bored individuals with nothing better to do than try to suck the life out of others. Brainless, aimless, weak, cowardly psychopathic schmucks.
Successful serial killers have quite a strong compensatory counterface. So Bundy was charismatic, articulate, intelligence, appealing to women, learned (law student; note, not graduate), altruistic (volunteered on a suicide hotline for several weeks); Jeffrey Dahmer was affable, easygoing, friendly, relaxed, appeared normal to many, showed deep remorse (wanted to be in jail for life), religious (baptised in jail), regretted the actual killing as he just wanted company. On a crasser level, Gacy was a party clown and Ridgway appeared doltish if not almost troglydytic, appeared to experience no joy or pleasure from the murders, seems to not know what's happening to him, is appreciative of jail conditions etc. This counterface is so well developed I think it exists as a counterpoint to the murderer, the sadist. Both do not fully encapsulate the person - they are like opposite or polar ends on a spectrum of personality. They have a personality that is split into two halves, each at opposite ends of the scale. And this probably gives them the justification to keep going, like a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, the better half justifies the actions of the bad person. The better the good guy, the more licence the bad guy has to unleash.
This analysis shows your commitment to an in-depth, informative research. One that can be acknowledged for the amount of effort you put into the entire video. Thank you.
They are referred to as lizards here on many channels on UA-cam that show picking them up. I can only assume that these people are happy to bang them anyway.
It’s astonishing that Ridgeway went undetected for so long, unbelievable case!! Thank you for all of the time and research you put into your videos, Dr Grande.
He was a regular at the diner we used to go to when we would skip class in highschool to do our homework. I’ll never forget the look on the waitress’s faces when we all watched it on tv.
Just checking in to see if anybody noticed ridgeway and dr grande have a superficial visual similarity. No? Anybody? Edit: top notch work as usual, dr G.
Some humans have more psychic abilities than others. I can't even imagine the kinds of energies he was giving off for them to pick up on that. Some serial killers describe becoming sort of possessed when they kill, like a demonic energy takes over.
@@Abruzzo333Its not psychic abilites. Its basic human intuition and instinctual reading of microexpressions in body language. Ridgways internal Rage and fury before he killed probably resulted in incongruent Body language in comparison to his previous behavior. Anger is something People easily pick Up on,youve probably heard someone say that the "energy changed" when someone is really angry but is hiding it
They didn’t ”sense they were about to die” in some spiritual way, they noticed he was acting strangely, they knew there was a killer in the area targeting prostitutes and connected the dots.
I admire Dr Grande's interlect and sometimes humour ....it seems to me that when someone suffers cruelty and abuse as a child they can either grow up to be an abuser themselves or become the opposite depending on the level of their intelligence...we are all have choices...i choose love❤
Please continue to do more crime offender analysis and documentary critics! I am a Criminology student and I absolutely love your in-depth take on these case studies.
Thank you for another fascinating, thorough and science-based analysis of one serial killer whose high conscientiousness seems to have contributed to evading detection for so long. I'd add mistakes, including assumptions, by law enforcement contributed to his relatively long career as a serial killer. Could you look into the serial killer Richard Ramirez, whose dedication to Satanism sets him apart and whose defence team did not utilize his extremely violent childhood and dysfunctional family which was a factor in his sensation-seeking and violent behaviours. I'd be interested in your analysis of Ramirez's personality and possible disorders.
This doctor is the best!!! He also teaches about narcissism with a huge following like ME (a victim of it by a husband). I watch him every day. The learning is amazing. This guy is brilliant beyond most people! Some kind of gift he has.
I’d be interested to know if Dr. Grande thinks being a serial killer is a form of insanity. I get confused as to how a “sane” person could do these things.
"Insanity" is a legal term, not a diagnosis in psychology. Being legally insane only means that you did not know between right and wrong at the time of commiting the crime. It's very rare for a murderer to be declared insane. Especially serial killers as anyone who is able to avoid detection long enough to kill more than one person is aware that what they are doing is wrong... Otherwise they wouldn't attempt to hide their crime or their identity etc. It takes a level of planning and deception that wouldn't be accomplished if you didn't know that what you were doing needed to be hidden.
To be fair, if somebody actually was going around killing prostitutes regularly, you could see the argument that on average they would probably avoid being honest about soliciting and assaulting them.
I think Dr. Grande's point is that Ridgeway came across as being honest. The police knew he had assaulted a prostitute, so it would've made him seem more suspect if he had denied it. By admitting to wrong doing, he made them believe that while he was violent at times, he could be taken at his word.
Faith Barcelo I totally agree that Dr Grande shows us how the police were thinking, I just think that the police weren't thinking very deeply. Also, just because you're investigating one crime doesn't mean you shouldn't pay attention when someone confesses to another crime. They were happy to get one suspect on unpaid parking fines but turn a blind eye to assaulting women and we should remember the millions wasted on the investigation. The Green River Killer was supposed to have killed dozens of people and it took decades to find him, I think the attitude of police to sex workers and their lack of lateral thinking played a massive role in allowing the murders to take place. Policeman interview criminals all the time, they should be looking for 1/2 truths and partial confessions. Instead once they've decided they have someone they want to nail him regardless of the facts - did the Green River Killer really murder as many people as he confessed to? I doubt it but it's a convenient way for the police to close cases. They were chasing someone with so little intelligence, status or knowledge of the world, total shambles, I have no sympathy for them
@@jamesshaw6363 I 100% agree with you. I do think that in general law enforcement trusts their own judgement too much, especially when it comes to mental health. I agree that if he was killing or even just assaulting "upstanding" members of society, more would have been done sooner, and that's disgusting in my opinion. It seems like police also tend to believe women less when it comes to assault in general, which is equally upsetting, but the prejudice increases when the women come from a low economic standing and/or are sex workers. It feels like there's much prejudice that leads to unprosecuted or continued crimes, it's really saddening when you think about it. This case seems to be a super clear example of that. Him being so careful combined with oversight on the part of law enforcement led to so many more deaths.
Faith Barcelo Absolutely, I wouldn't be surprised if there were two or three killers involved in these murders as well. The police love it when they have a serial killer and use it to clear a backlog of open murders - same with the Iceman case. Whatever's easiest for them I suppose and millions of dollars well spent
I really love the fact that I can come to this channel and listen because I watch a lot of serial killer interviews. At times I asked myself why and if the viewing is bothering me negatively. I like the fact I can come here and get clarification, if that makes sense. Ted Bundy and the night stalker give me chills.
"Catching a Serial Killer: SAM LITTLE is coming to Oxygen (on SUNDAY, APRIL 12 at 7 p.m.) as part of its 12 Dark Days of Serial Killers event". TOMORROW NIGHT!!!!! PROFESSOR!!!! I hope you're going to be covering Sam Little soon 🤩🤩🤩 This was GREAT. 👍👍👍 I had heard him typed as an INFJ, which I don't see at all. I def see him as an ISTJ-A. Meticulous, organized, well-planned, likes a sensory experience (strangulation). We INFJs are similar to ISTJs, but they are mousey and calm, while we have a higher level of nervous energy.
I fantasize about doing treatment planning with you 😆 you are so good at teasing out an informal dx. I really appreciate how you start with the bigger, broader picture; the holistic context. Then you break it down analytically bit by bit, with sx criterion checklists, and aside from your absolutely genius sense of humor, you remain unbiased, factual, and use only the subjective and objective evidence available. Dr. Grande, you set the bar very high!
another great analysis Dr Grande, thank you. I wonder if you would do an analysis of David Parker Ray, the toy box killer? He seemed to engage in extreme and prolonged torture of victims and I have struggled to find information on the psychodynamics of his childhood.
Love your serial killer analyses! Gary Ridgway is one of the most curious ones to me. I also would like to see one on Citizen X in Russia. Seeing his story was gripping!
Spot ON! I've always had a spot in my heart for Ridgway. I absolutely do not excuse what he did, he could have gone down so many better paths.. but I've always had a sort of sympathy for the man. Great as always, Dr. Grande
@Dr. Todd Grande is one of my favorite educational channels, that I would personally suggest to anyone who’s also interested in the scientific method of psychology. Great content!
Ridgeway being on one of the top prolific serial killers seems very horrific in summary. So much so that it’s difficult for me to fathom his mentality.
I remember watching a video of him in the courtroom where the Christian father of one of the victims told him that he forgave him. Ridgeway broke down in tears which I found interesting. Since he was a psychopath, I presumed it likely that he was crying for himself. I wonder how Dr. Grande would interpret that incident. Great video as always.
Dr. Grande, excellent analysis as always. I see many similarities with Ridgway and BTK. I find their abilities to live "normal lives" and go undetected at such length extremely fascinating, as well as many missed opportunities by law enforcement. thanks for the tip about Samuel Little, another serial killer rabbit hole for me to dive into
BTK also learned the unfortunate fact about cops... That if you act cooperative and reasonable, and subtly acknowledge their authority, they will automatically assume you are the good guy.
Yes, and interestingly I believe that is part of what inspired author Thomas Harris for the idea to have Hannibal Lecter help Clarice find Buffalo Bill!
He could have used his assistance as a reason for Clemency. One killer helping to stop another surely cancels out a bit of what he did. Maybe another 10 years of life or something. He should have got something for it, if he put a lot of effort and time into it.
If I may disagree with your position on whether or not he required excessive admiration. He admits that his second wife didn't kiss his ass enough so he had to kill women. If you've ever lived with one, you recognize this from a mile away.
I never heard of this case till I moved to Washington and went to the hardware store one night. The cashier made a robotic comment about a membership number and my response broke him out of his stupor. He made a comment about why he does costumer service now and proceeded to tell me how he used to work at a trucking company in Renton and was there the night his co-worker, the Greenway Killer was arrested. Thanks for the video Dr.Grande
I remember this murder spree, it was theorized that the perp might have been a police officer, I used to read True Detective magazines since I was a young child, always been fascinated with Serial Killers, still am to this day,the Dark Side fascinates me, always has, good work! Great videos!! Keep it up man!!
Doesn't seem low IQ to me....meticulous planning implies different. We're talking about a guy who killed 50 people over 20 years....the word 'dumb' or 'stupid' does not come to mind regardless of his level of conscientiousness....
@@BijahD In the video it says he had an IQ of around 80. I mean it could be, he was reading true crime stories a lot, if one would study those systematically and carefully I guess you could pull it off. The nature of high conscientiousness is being careful, deliberate and having a tendency to plan things out. Combined with the extra motivational push of having psychpathic/anti social traits.. But I can see where you're coming from, it's still quite a story.
@@justme-ld9xz In interviews I've seen of him he doesn't strike me as essentially a retarded adult at all....he seems relatively articulate for an uneducated person actually...
@@BijahD Hmm.. I haven't seen any interviews, but that's a good point. Maybe he faked the IQ test, just like he could've manipulated the pseudo scientific lie detector test. However, folks with IQ's in the 80 range can sometimes go undetected in a conversation about a certain topic they tend to lash on to, assuming the topic of the interview was one of those for him. It's when you get i depth that it tends to show up. I can't know for sure, but interesting point.
What do you think was going on with him when a victim’s father forgave him during victim impact statements? His demeanor cracked and I was floored. It’s like seeing a flicker of humanity when you would swear there was none.
I'm getting ready to move to Washington state, and I appreciate all the info on the area's serial killers. PLUS, I always love every one of Dr. Grande's videos!!!!! It's too bad that Ridgway had such a horrible childhood, but once he became an adult, it would have been good for him to seek help to find out why he had certain inclinations.
I've seen a interview with one of his workmates and he said that Gary ridgeway was absolute perfectionist at his job and was by far the best at his job at the place they worked at! Which firs perfectly with your analysis
It's amazing to me that he got away doing these hideous acts for so long. He never seemed like he had more than MAYBE an average IQ, yet like this Dr. implied, he was very careful with every detail as to leave no evidence. Just fascinating really. Thank you for your interesting and informative views.
One thing I don't think the doctor touched on - he was painting trucks, in that era the paint they were using was pretty toxic stuff. A lot of those guys were nuts. If Ridgway wasn't wearing a mask like EVERY day, that could've affected his IQ and parts of his personality. There's a famous article called "the criminal element" about lead. Crime was higher, children more likely to have learning difficulties, all kinds of social problems can be linked to lead in fuel, paint, and pipes. When people are exposed to certain chemicals, as Ridgway was at work with his toxic truck paint and possibly in Vietnam - it can change their personalities and chemistry. It can make them more prone to impulsivity and violence.
Unbelievable he held a steady job for decades. Being sociable enough to be part of a team, not a problem at work etc, self discipline to stick to an early morning routine etc.
Hello Dr, Grande. As strange as it may be, I like that you are covering these cases. Not only are your speculations on criminal behavior interesting, they take us a way from the highly disorientating, current pandemic situatiom the entire world is realing from. Thanks.
28:50 "asking somebody if they are a killer is not a successfull strategy for staying alive"
**taking notes**
Dr. Grande next video : *"9 tricks not to get killed as a prostitute in Utah"*
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Haha, I've actually asked someone that. The guy was seriously creeping me out.
@@kimberlygabaldon3260 you may want to carry a mace on your keys. Or say away from that guy. Lol
@@kathrinjohnson2582 - He hasn't killed me, but i am convinced that he is a dark triad narc, and not safe to be around. I moved away from the area. I think it was a case of counter-phobia or anti-phobia, or whatever that term is.
It just really hit me watching this video how much research and effort you put into making all your videos. It's like you've researched writing a paper, wrote the paper and now present it to us. That all takes a lot of time. So appreciative, thank you.
I agree. I had to make a video for work recently. It was about 10 minutes long. It took me two days. Of course, I don’t do it daily like these guys do. Still. A lot of work goes into this.
Yes deep research and then deep analysis. With a lot of concern that he is very accurate. Thank you Dr. Grande.
This man gives 100% every damn day.
I worked with the mother of one of his victims. She was a very sweet lady, and what Ridgeway did to her child broke her heart. She never really recovered and died in her early 40's--yet another victim, really, of the Green River Killer.
Weirdly enough, I also worked with Ted Bundy's mom.
How was Ted bundys mom was she like her sick twisted evil son
Your region has had some noteworthy serial killers. I guess it was a regional risk for you to know people related.
That's so sad for your co-worker.
If you can share, what was Louise like?
I'm sry this stuff was so close to you. Bundy was in Utah when we were at school there.
Thinking is must be something in the water. My adult daughter recently lived out there for about a year; disaster from start to stop. And this following several years in Chicago, for crying out loud. She talked about the "Seattle Freeze", having found it almost impossible to make new friends.
According to wikipedia Ted Bundy also helped the police form a profile for the Green River Killer too.
"He would call the...business manager of his victims." Business manager. That was a very diplomatic way of putting it. Never heard that one before.
This just shows how professional Dr Grande is.
It was too diplomatic.
So... pornstars have agents or pimps? :)
@@arturczerwinski2616 I assumed he meant street hookers have pimps, but then he mentioned phoning"the business manager to make an appointment, so maybe these poor girls were more of an escort?
Either way, it was a very clever reference and I'm going to try to remember it.
They call prostitution the oldest profession, aka business, in the world. By that token your business manager would be just that...ya dumb hayseed
A whole 30 minutes of Dr.Grande?!
Perfect quarantine treat! Thank you!
You should binge watch his chanal. Loads of fun.
@Turquoise Cheetah I saw refrigerator trucks in my city filled with people's dead family members. A friend of mine died. COVID-19 is a serious threat and making it about politics and not public health is idiotic.
@sidgdansk Perhaps the two of you should be watching the GLENN KIRSCHNER channel. Then you’ll know who is the tyrant.
@Turquoise Cheetah
Your 100% correct , this is total fakery.... started two days after the fake Russian collusion case was thrown out and the impeachment fakery. It was a bullshit virus , designed to take out US Economy and President Trump
@@donfrandsen7778 Lmao do you believe in QAnon, too?
What astonishes me the most about prolific serial killers is their ability to remember so much about each of their victims.
yeah and especially this guy, he was pretty low IQ.
Sylvia Yes indeed, and all the places they disposed of their poor victims....
Killing someone is pretty intimate and emotional. I doubt you could forget any of it.
Have you ever been in a fist fight? Ur adrenaline is pumping and the events leading up to the fight are usually very clear in ur brain, the fight itself is foggy, guessing thats why they remember so much
I didn’t think psychopaths had emotion or feelings.
He was creepy AF (Greenriver Gary, not Dr. Grande) , my father worked at Kennworth at the same time, had a house a block over from my sister, and in '86 he tried to "offer a ride" while I was at the bus stop on Pac Hwy. I cheered once they got him. Thanks again Dr. Grande, love the lessons.
SMH.😑🕊️
Wow! I hope you thank God everyday that you did not accept that offer of a ride....It would have been the end of your life....
@@michaelknapp3702 live to warn others, at the time it was just a random creepy dude, at the time it was his ugly red pick up though his vehicle changed now and then
Thank Goodness you are A-okay.
Is it just me or could the Doc be Ridgeways double?
"obsessed over true crime literature" hmmm, we could be in trouble folks
I was thinking that same thing. Lol
Spoke w massage business owner who said the murder were by police. Mother's said their daughters would not be prostitution. Police setting model to frighten girls into prostitution. They tried to force massage business owner to conduct prostitution. Police said they needed large supply to service conventions and visitors to Seattle/King county. They were trying to frame her for a crime cause she would not cooperate. I believed her.
She appeared at my door at night w two teenage children. I was in great fear for her. I believed her. She said victims were all posed on edge of river holding bouquet of weed flowers. Cops had the opportunity to pick up these girls w/o suspicion. I was whistle blower about racketeering by city officials and a state senator. State Senator took me to dinner and told me to cut my losses and move since Mayor did not like me. Selling unopened easements already owned by 100 year old law they kept from owners not respecting law and informing selling property owners they had to pay half appraised value. Money not going into city treasury. City Kirkland. Falsified a misdemeanor and had kangaroo court trial by Municipal judge whose husband Superior Court. Hebrew Appellate Judge and she now Superior Judge. Nepotism uf you ask me. Same County. King County horribly corrupt no wonder current problems. . Ridgeway not likely murderer of most Green River victims. Believe was the cops. Seen enough dirty cops and chiefs working under color of law. I was nursing consultant with State DSHS. Did not even have a parking ticket.
Unfortunately moved to as bad or worse corrupt City. They have victims who can identify thieves to pstcg units. "Imagined thefts" . Called Kidnapping by cops w help of judges. Expert orders. Stop drinking the fluoride and turn off TV. Most news slanted propaganda. Nit required ti tell truth. It is entertainment owned by six families/gvmt. Stop listening to speculation. Wasting your time. YT removing informative truthful videos. New ones now building up. Find them.
Where did you get your detail? A book?
Same style murders started un Spokane before Ridgeway arrested. Posed with flowers in hand. Women who refused to prosecute. Used to force others to become prostitutes. Would you deny many forced into the business?
In Seattle could see cops involved when forcing massage business to service horny men. They need to teach teen boys how to take care of their own needs. So many times against children, animals (rape of animals legal in NM), and children. Need mandatory depo provera or castration but read they use other methods. Should work on pill to stop the obsession. Men think of sex several times a minute. Given right for release using animals!!!
Don't believe Ridgeway had time to kill 49 women. I don't buy it. Speculation again.
"Are you the green river killer?"
"No, that's the other guy. I'm the blue lake killer"
Quirrel nooo
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Well he confessed that his 1st murder was a boy that he drowned in a lake so he's both I guess?
@Robert McNemar What picture are you talking about?
Lol
In a documentary, Ridgeway expression anger at his wife having an affair when he was in the army and he was soliciting prostitutes. I always found that double standard to be quite interesting.
They were both unfaithful
It's pretty common, I think. Thankfully, murder is less common. :/
It’s the narcissism. He only cared about how/when things effected HIM. Her cheating would have damaged his ego. Her feelings, on the other hand, were inconsequential to him. Completely Irrelevant.
I don't think that's a double standard. Paying prostitutes for sex is not the same thing as being dedicated to a partner.
Paying for sex is just different. All of the meaning of intimacy is missing if you have to pay for it.
"business manager" your euphemisms are spectacular
I like your cat lol
@@DJMICA-bz3qz speaking of euphemisms 🤭
Bahahaha! I just heard this comment and came here to comment. But you got it! 😅😅
Risky business
He was very careful. Oddly, he dated my sister twice and as she felt he was creepy, she avoided him after the second date. Years later, she found out why he gave creepy "vibes"
OH, Boy, she sure did dodged a bullet. It's a good thing she followed her gut feeling. I always say follow your gut it usually right. God bless you
@@hollyberry2752 Gut feelings should NOT be ignored.
My dad knew him as well. He worked a few odd jobs with him. Gary had been to our HOME. My mom and sister (I was very young) didn't ever want him back to the house. A few months later and my dad saw him again.
Creepy and non descriptive. Mom said she barely remembered what he looked like, just remembered the feeling he gave her.
I think this is why he was over looked so much, he was very unassuming and someone that blend in even if you passed him every day.
You take pride the stuff your passionate about.
When I was 17, a nice looking sheriff deputy seemed to follow me and my friends around. Offered rides. We never accepted. His name was Gerard Shaffer. A serial killer. Creepy!
Doctor Grande's content is up there on top with the likes of Jim Can't Swim. Absolutely amazing. The cream of the crop for content on psychology and true crime. Just so well done and of the highest quality.
You should be on TV. You make better content than any of the big name media corporations tbh.
Ridgeways'behaviour is coherent with all animals'hunters that I think are all psychopaths too.
up there with JCS but I think Dr. Grande is better even just for the difference in the amount of content
With none of the fluff pr dumb questions like "was Ted bundy borne to keeeeeellll" no he was born then decided to kill
And he educates as he goes. Much better than the less informed media schills.
Also true crime recaps. It’s really good and Chris and Amy are really likable
I appreciate this video. I went to school with, and was friends with one of his many victims. Andrea Marion Childers. She was 19.
How devastating to be touched by that kind of crime. The loss of your friend like that would rob you of any sense of innocence you had left . I can't imagine what you must have went through. To see how ordinary he looked and how much he got away with is chilling. I lost my best friend to a murderer when I was 14 and I think he killed others too. I know it changed me so I feel for you. 👋🫂
It’s particularly heartbreaking when children and young people die. Their loved ones (which includes friends) are always left wondering what they would have become or accomplished if they had the chance at life. The mourning of that potential life cut short never ends. One also changes their own life path in unimaginable and unintended ways. You are always left wondering what your own life would have looked like had that friend lived.
May Andrea rest in eternal peace.
God be with you and yours. Thank you for sharing.
Damn, crazy how small the world is.
@@shombie2737 right? lmao
She was killed April 14, 1983 and body found in October 11, 1989
I grew up in Auburn, WA and TO THIS DAY, i get chills remembering when they found the last victim. It was a steep, winding road, and once at the top, there was a little old house on the edge of the ravine, surrounded by forest. Beautiful view. But now... a sad reminder that an evil monster lived among us.
Yup. I'm from Kent.
Auburn also. Ted Bundy killed a chick in my hood. I know a few people who's Dad's worked at Kenworth with Ridgeway....everyone thought he was creepy.
I drove that winding highway past where they were searching for his bodies...bone chilling to this day. Also, in Lakewood I suspect he was at Sambos. A all-night restaurant. He was at counter as my friend and I sat close by. He kept looking at us. Being in the area of Tacoma known as a strip where prostitutes worked it all added up by seeing his picture. Such a monster.
Meredith Hill. I’m from Auburn too.
omg his father speaking to him about necrophilia really makes me cringe...what a life this monster had
or his mother assaulting him
Makes 1 wonder if he had normal, loving people raising him, if he would have turned out differently. Sad as it is scary.
Maybe it was more of an off-handed comment like "Yeah Dave over there likes to fuck the bodies" and that seed grew in Gary's mind.
@Morkus Borkus some are born bad. Short brain stem. And, who is the source citing all this abuse?
"Worst possible combination of personality traits" and still gets married three times. I'll never understand how these absolute monsters are able to get married and have kids.
Well if you are raised in a very abusive home and don't know much else growing up, then the acceptance of abusive behaviour can become highly normalized in your life. Also some people may be willing to put up with abuse for the benefits of a relationship for various reasons; maybe they suffer from a mental health disorder where being in a relationship with that person helps stabilize them and puts them in a better mental state than they would be on their own, maybe they gain financial aid from their abuser and the alternative is homelessness or worse, etc... Often times the abuser may not show signs of abuse in a relationship until they have made their victim dependent on them and the victim doesn't realize that they have been groomed and manipulated by their abuser until it is too late. Some monsters are able to hide all of their abusive and violent behaviour from their families to the point that the family refuses to believe that that person could ever do such things. Others may experience such a deep self-loathing and hatred that they feel deserving of the abuse they experience in life - this mental state as well is often a product of manipulation and psychological abuse at the hands of their abuser. There are so many reasons why someone may end up with a monster.
@@hoathanatos6179 Yep, narcsissists lie ALL THE TIME, their whole persona is fake, they are tragic empty shells. Add sociopaths and psychopaths who literally can't feel the same normal emotions as others do, like empathy or sympathy. They do not have those emotions at all. I guess they can make up a fake persona, and make a family with that, but that double life is somehow very very fucked up.
Coz they're thee deadly catch of a lifetime
I'd like to know *how* all these inadequate and horrible people can get dates, partners, and even married whilst I can't even get asked for coffee.
Does this mean my chances at a relationship are relative to how crazy/wicked I can become(or act that way)
Okay, I can do that
Let's see how it goes.
But now I've got to go to Google Earth to find a body disposal site. And find out where to buy rope.
Ridgeway's last wife said that he made her feel like a newlywed every day, he never got mad and did nice little things for her everyday like bringing her little gifts and flowers.
He must have seen her as pure, almost saintly.
I’m glad you also mentioned the dangers of pseudoscience - I don’t understand how people are so easily pressured into polygraphs in particular, when we see all the time they are not infallible.
Great analysis, Ridgeway creeps me out the most out of all serial killers. I can’t believe he was able to fly under the radar for so many years. Especially when he supposedly had such a low IQ. I just watched the Catching Killers episode on him and it was insane hearing them read out victim after victim when he was finally caught and charged, and him casually answering “Guilty”, like he was admitting to parking violations.
I like Polys purely for just data gathering (The conversations before the test even begins) I dont care for the test itself.
The cops only use the polygraph to control you in the interrogation room. If they want you it wont matter if you pass it or not. They will come back and tell you that you failed even if you pass. They didn't want Gary for this. The detective claims that he did but that is bullshit. They have put people to death without any physical evidence at all. They had probable cause to put surveillance on him. They just didn't want him for it. By the way, Don't let people with a so called low IQ fool you.
The only time he showed any emotion was when a victim’s family member told him he’d forgiven him. His jaw began quivering and he broke out in tears. So, I guess he was touched that he was shown compassion, but he certainly had none for others.
But what does this mean? That’s what I don’t understand. And why I watched this video. He also did cry when a woman spoke about growing up without her mom (whom he had killed). Like what thoughts could have caused the tears. He said himself it’s not empathy. What is it? Self pity? For being caught?
Also, he seemed to really care about his wife. I don’t get that either. He’s a mystery to me. Maybe this is the difference between a psycho born and one created. Maybe he doesn’t fit the mold.
@@dontmindme633 that would be a sociopath
@@dontmindme633 in the short mini series on him, He mentions feeling sad for one of the victims cause he chose to kill her while she faced him and he said the expression on her face made him feel bad for killing her.
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So sociopaths are capable of remorse. That’s what I was wondering. Thank you.
I wonder if the coworker that his father told the necrophilia story about was made up and it was really the father talking about himself.
Why the fuck would you tell your kid about necrophilia, period?
@@You.Tube.Sucks. frankly because they are just sick.
HaD to have been the father IMO. Although I’m not one hundred percent accurate, nor can I make that claim, I’m just speculating what may be obvious, given the circumstances of the scenario.
Most likely. You wouldn't joke about something like that with your 7 year old, ordinarily.
@@hrush437 That's a great, obvious response! Wtf are some people smoking that they connect the dots? Thank you!
Your analysis was excellent, you covered almost everything in 30 minutes. Most people don’t cover Gary Ridgeway (The Green River Killer). I read Anne Rules book, “ The Green River Killer”, an excellent book, years ago. I also saw the Netflix movie called Green River Killer, which is also excellent but horrific. This man is a monster, just because you’re abused doesn’t mean your become a killer. I came from an abusive home and I’m the opposite, an empath. I can’t believe that he is still alive in prison and all his victims died at his hands!! I’m so glad that they named and showed pictures of all the girls who were found to give them a face to their name. These girls were victims at home and then at the hands of a monster!!
I read Ann Rule's book about the murders years ago and she did (as usual) a great job showing the victims as real people and not simply a serial killer's body count. Your thoughts on the psychology of the killer is really interesting to hear. Thanks.
Yes, it was great how much the mothers, sisters and boyfriends cared about these girls.
After they were dead.
Fun fact my parents live in Burien WA and Ann use to go into the Denny's restaurant and write late at night.
I have mixed feelings about Ann Rule - in most of her books she can’t say enough good things about the cops involved. I was very pleased to see that she did not do that in this book.
@@indy_go_blue6048 enough to report them missing.... years later
@@phillip5505 One guy actually followed Ridgeway and his "girlfriend" as they drove off but lost them at a stoplight IIRC. True love.
His third wife had no idea her husband was a serial killer. He had fooled her and behaved like a perfect gentleman towards her. It was heartbreaking to watch her story.
Yes, I saw that programme. The difference between Ridgway with Judith and at his trial was actually horrifying. It was like a reptile had slithered out of its lair.
Thanks for the additional context. In the video when he mentioned that they'd stayed married basically up untill the trial I was kind of taken aback. But sadly it makes sense that this monster would have fooled and manipulated his wife. Hope she is doing OK (or as well as possible) now.
@MarieJesne: yes, she's doing fine. She has remarried I think and is happy now. I think that came out in the documentary. It may have been an episode of "Who the Hell Did I Marry?"
It's why I don't trust stoic men. Any man who has swallowed his feelings that much is always hiding something.
It's not that he fooled her, he probably* genuinely cared for her, though whether that is simply a manifestation of a madonna-whore complex is open to debate.
*as much as a serial killer can care about anyone 😬
My uncle worked with Ridgeway for decades. Ridgeway worked in the paint dept & my uncle restored vintage cars, so my uncle got painting advice from Ridgeway a number of times.
It's crazy how they had him on their radar early on but failed to catch him
It seems like that happens in a lot of serial killer cases. I watch Bailey Sarian and she's pointed that out before. It's really sad.
Well you typically need evidence to take before a grand jury before you arrest someone, they had none.
He "passed" one lie detector test, so they let him go on his way...many more women were murdered as a result.
Not for lack of trying. DNA had to be the linchpin in catching him. I feel so horrible for the families but also the officers who devoted Years to catching him. Their dedication if amazing
We have Dave Reichert to thank for that.
If you live in Washington state, consider not voting for that incompetent f***. He's currently running for governor.
I grew up 5 minutes from green river, walked around the rivers footpath with my mom as a kid, and I’ve drove by the truck factory he worked at hundreds of times, every once in a while I just get this uneasy feeling when I really think about the horror that took place here.
Too bad you and the hundreds of other people who now claim to have had preternatural "feelings" that pointed to Gary with their 20/20 hindsight didn't speak up back then.
Kinda like a guy who watches a magician perform a trick and then says "I knew he was gonna do that," but is never able to tell you what the magician is going to do until after it's been done.
One of my friends his sister that's one of the Green River Killers victims, Opal Mills is her name. First person of ever gotten to know whose family member or someone close to them was a victim of a serial killer makes it so much more real I can tell you that I get chills just hearing this man's name mentioned
Yes indeed. My brother's sister in law was one of his victims also.
Ridgeway lived about 40 minutes away. I can remember being terrified, seeing newspaper headlines. When he was most prolific, it seemed we saw poor girls' faces under the next day's headlines reading, another dead girl! It was really the talk about town. The taxi driver you mention was an odd bird (in the beginning imo, he wanted you to believe he was the guilty party)! He spoke really odd, paused when speaking for so long, it got uncomfortable. He'd be very vague and suspicious acting. Then after the cops turned up the heat, he changed directions pretty quick because it seemed one day he was Killer Mr. X. After speaking with the police he became normal and very helpful, including some interviews, where he got his 15 minutes of fame.
I just read, 'about 50% of the world's serial killers seem to come from a 200 mile radius around Seattle (Bundy, Ridgeway, Dodd, Yates, Alcala and that pig farmer, Pickton). I wonder why Seattle draws these awful creatures to the beautiful NW?
Interesting analysis Doctor! So glad to see your healthy face! You and yours stay well! 😷💞👏🌟🌷
Listening to this story it sounds like it’s because of incredibly inept police forces
Not sure if your interested but many extremely prolific serialkillers come from Columbia.
Simplistic One Which Columbia, there are many (including the capital of SC)?
@@MaxOakland Well.... Idk, there was a task force set up. Honestly, they were getting so much heat from the public (which isn't what history has shown when prostitutes are the victims), they were stretched to the max...I really felt sorry for them, because everyone wanted this dude off the streets! Imo, I just think cops had not seen a murderer this 'clever', This was before real profiling, DNA advances, etc., plus look at him! He looks like your best friends' son! Stay healthy Max! Thanks for your comment! 😷🌍✌🍀💕🌷
Ethan Poole the country in South America
"His IQ was in the low 80's " And he was too smart for the cops.
Morphing Taxi
Whether you believe in IQ or not (and I’m skeptical myself), the point your making doesn’t really work.
Yeah I know - oxymoron!
@Morphing Taxi No, because cops don't have to be intelligent. Atleast not in the USA.
I think his intelligence was higher than that, probably average intelligence for a tradesman say 95 he had an eye for detail, very careful, plenty of common sense, probably a psychopath.
@The Senate IQ is a correlation, not causation of intelligence that's how I put it; it focusses (Depending on the test) on certain types of intelligence, it has its pros and cons but I would not say it's the be all end all. A decent metric though but hopefully in the future, we develop even better methods.
When he was burying the body on Jovita Blvd, he said he heard someone walk by. That was me. I could see the white van, before he heard me and turned his light out. I couldn't see any finer detail than that. And I was on foot, so he could've easily finished and been out of there before I could get to the nearest house. Cell phones were just coming out then, and I didn't have one. Didn't realize what I'd seen until later. Van hadn't been identified then, and it was going to be more than an hour before I'd reach a phone.
How do you feel about it now
Personally I wouldn’t let that slide
@@abagz3919 I’m sooooo weak
Oh wow! Too much.
And then everyone stuck their azzez out of their windows and passed wind at you, right?
One of the most disturbing things about Gary, to me, was from a detective's account. Gary changed trucks a lot. Colors, makes, and models. About 100 times. He could remember every make, model, and color or every truck he owned. He spoke of his trucks with affection, but he could seldom remember the names or anything personal about his victims.
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Thank you Dr G for mentioning the pseudo-scientific nature of polygraphs. Here's a direct quote from a polygraph tester: "There's actually only two ways you can fail a polygraph: the first is if you failed to follow my instructions [...], the second way is if you choose to lie to me today". Oh right, so the machine's infallible? That means that upon failing the polygraph, that would be a conviction. Now we can move straight to sentencing. If a "polygrapher" said the same "only two ways"-stuff to me I would point out to the him/her that if their statement were true, then a good proportion of the existing criminal justice system would be totally unnecessary, time- and money-wasting, and therefore in need of immediate abolition. Funny to think that a lie detecting person would start off the whole proceedings with a lie of their own.
It's like a tarot card reading or reading your palm; it's just a tool that cops use to try to get the suspect to cave. There are some Very Good reasons that lie detector tests are Not admissible evidence in any court of law.
Polygraph should be banned at all police departments. Totally worthless.
@@sirstephen9825 agree whole heartedly
As Upton Sinclair said, " It is hard to convince a man of a fact if his salary depends on his not believing the truth of that fact".
Society needs to find a way to get troubled young men into therapy BEFORE things get totally out of hand like this.
And females.
It will never happen as long as we have predominately liberal judges and prosecutors. Vote them out of office.
Not possible society itself sucks bro 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Good luck with that..."normal" people can't begin to understand how a psychopaths brain works. The so called experts have to work with what these lunatics GIVE them...which isn't much.
@@peterjones4621And conservative judges are widely known for their beliefs in social reform and advocating mental health?
Wow! I had no idea that the number of murders he committed was that high and that his reign of terror went on for that long. A monster on so many levels, and the chilling thing is, he didn't look like a complete psychopath.
Great and very thorough analysis you put together! Thank you for all the time and effort you put into these!!
Even though he was a complete psycopath!
What do psychopaths look like?
My brother and a friend worked at Kenworth in Renton Washington at the time Ridgeway worked there. They were calling him Green River Gary years before he was arrested. He was questioned years prior by law enforcement for the killings. It was determined at the time that he wasn’t the guy, but the knick name stuck. As we all know now, he was really the Green River Killer. It’s a great salmon and steelhead river by the way.
I think he killed them so he wouldn't have to pay them. Ultimate cheapskate.
This is a great comment and needs to be pinned to the top.
What happens when you’re fishing in the Green River and you hook a prostitute ? Catch and release?
ur post gave me a headache
Clin eezwood : leave the fish alone! You're as bad as Ridgeway!
I love your factual presentation of the details. It makes for a very professional and unbiased discussion. "the victim's business manager" are phrases that keep the discussion dignified. Thank you.
Very interesting analysis , Dr. Grande. I especially was intrigued by the way his high conscientiousness protected him for so long and compensated for an apparently low IQ. “Perfect storm,” indeed.
I always thought he was unattractive and not
the sharpest knife in the drawer! Lol!
I'm thinking there had to be something erroneous about that IQ test. The guy's analytical skills were _well above average,_ to say the least...
If he'd been given a GAI test instead of standard IQ, he may have tested much higher. My understanding is that GIA allows for learning differences.
This analysis was very insightful and thorough. Excellent job Dr. Grande!
And congratulations on 250K subs!!!❤️🎉👏🏼
I am very happy for you, and so impressed to see that in less than 2 months you have 50k more subscribers!!! That’s due to your commitment to excellence and hard work!
Wish you the very best and a lot of success, you deserve it:)
I never realized how much he did to evade capture, very interesting. He always looked especially dead-eyed to me. I feel so sorry for the terror and pain he inflicted on those poor vulnerable women while he held ALL the advantages. I also feel sorry for the young boy Gary was with a sick mother...it's all very sad.
I don't know if you've seen this request before but I'm really interested in an analysis of Ted Kazcynski (the Unabomber)
I second this, HUGELY.
That would be fascinating!
Indeed!
He is the most BORING mass murderer EVER -
looks boring, deadly dull.
Agreed! One of the few murderers with a cause. Right or wrong, agree or disagree with his reasons, and despite his obviously disgusting methods, it's incredibly interesting and tragic on many levels from the squandered potential of the perp to the victims and survivors of his tactics. I've read quite a bit of his work and he's obviously a really bright dude, even if he seems to have a "baby/bathwater" problem with his analysis. It's wild that he went the way that he did. Sad story all around.
“he obsessed over true crime literature” woah how disgusting imagine sharing that trait with a serial killer ha i’m definitely not obsessed with that gross shit haha
my uncle was. became America's leading death penalty historian. Watt Espy.
Haha ha hahaha haaaaaa. I'm not psychotic at all!
LOLLOL!!!!!
So was bundy
Ha! Ha! Ha! Me neither! 😬😬
Your point about his IQ was very interesting. Years back I worked at the Mentally Retarded Defendant Program (currently the Developmentally Disabled Defendant Program) in Florida. Many of the defendants had social skills and some criminal intelligence that appeared to be well beyond their histories of academic achievement and intelligence testing. Although he was never convicted due to being Incompetent to Proceed, Eddie Lee Mosley eluded Broward County detectives for 15 years. There might not be enough information on him, but I would love you to consider doing an analysis on him. I really enjoy your careful thoughtful videos. I get so tired of all the hype on UA-cam.
@The Senate The police explained that in Eddy's case they were looking for someone who did not belong in the area, whereas, Eddy was there all the time. He was known as the guy who went around collecting cans to sell for recycling. He most of the time also chose prostitutes that were known to have drug addictions. So much of his murders got very little attention from the local authorities--sad really.
@The Senate It's not strange at all when you consider the average IQ of police officers. Cops are stupid. And this is intentional so they don't question the fucked up system they're upholding.
Ridgway was dyslexic so this could account for trouble with academia.
@@HM-uj6ud you sound like an extremely intelligent person with lots of nuanced and well thought out views. /s
There are an awful lot of people who are intelligent without being intellectual or academic. It didn't help that Ridgway was dyslexic. I don't know how you would score highly on an IQ test as a dyslexicc
I'd say he was far smarter than would show up on IQ.
EDIT: I'm not justifying Ridgway in any way, btw, he is a complete monster. The video of him in his trial is scary compared to the photos of him with his third wife.
Thank you so very much, Dr. Grande! This serial killer seems to be a bit *different* than what we usually see with such a high death rate.
I'm glad to hear that asking a killer if they're a killer doesn't really work. I had assumed this, but we all need facts!
Your effort and dedication to this channel is very appreciated.
And, as I have before, I must say that you present each video with a sense of seriousness and without judgement. I respect this so very much.
I hope you and your loved ones are safe, healthy, and/or at peace.
You've really come a long way in your story telling in the last four years Dr. Large. Very far.
28:38 If I might add; "Are you the green river killer?" was probably a way for those wimmen working in a high-risk environment to feel just a little bit safer.
Maybe a potential killer would flee, or act in a revealing way when asked, so the women could flee, or get a chanse to call for help.
Most probably knew it was "stupid" to ask this, but again, in a work environment where physical harm, and even death is a daily factor,
people tend to cling to all kinds of "silly" things, even if they know it has no or little effect.
Anywhoz, I enjoyed this episode, and it was great that you could make it a long one. =)
Keep up the good work, and stay healthy mr Todd-Man =)
I’ve observed numerous people in a variety of vulnerable situations asking “you aren’t a serial killer I hope?” It’s said off the cuff and yet somehow knowingly that the asker is putting their personal safety at risk. We are strange creatures us human beings!
@@christinapotter8526 I’ve asked something akin at times - viewing a rental, helping someone such as jumping a car....in a way it’s saying to the person “I’m at least somewhat aware this may not be the safest situation....and I COULD be prepared.” One response to me by a man showing a house was “well, it’s not like you left a note telling anyone where you’d be”. Which I actually did. I couldn’t wait to get out of that basement of that house and after his comment I stayed looking toward him and as far away as I could. Hindsight, I should have followed my gut and just walked/ran out.
@@lauradrinkwine7673 Glad you're still alive to even tell that story.
I was born in the 60's and I remember this case well as it developed and changed over the years. I was in high school when it first started being talked about in the papers. I had a severe hatred for my mother through my high school years because of my EXTREMELY abusive and violent step-dad and I remember being so scared that I would end up having tendencies like Ridgway did in regard to negative thoughts about my mother because of the relationship I had with my mother and her continuing to let my monster of a step-dad back into the house. This lasted into my mid 20's and I ran away from home frequently when still living at home so I moved out permanently when I had just turned 17, but as time passed I ended up having quite a normal marriage and three children whom I worship the ground my kids walk on. So the fears I had never came to fruition and I thank God for that. I used to pray so fervently with tears in my eyes that I would never end up like Ridgway. I definitely didn't.
I have four grandchildren now and I LOVE it! Those grandkids and my grown kids (My oldest is 31) give me such joy and it was so good to leave behind the 9 years of SEVERE abuse and neglect that I encountered as a child. My mother continued to let my step-dad back into the house even after his worst beatings of my mother and my two sisters and I. Seeing my step-dad beat my mother so severely and at times seeming to kill her made me have horrible fear that he would kill her and I would be left with him to raise me. That still has an effect on me even with me now being 53 years old. My step-dad left a life-long terror in me that I have learned to face and control.
So most people don't understand how having such a terrible childhood can leave certain people feeling like they are going to grow up to be violent or a serial killer if a known serial killer had much the same childhood as they did. My step-dad died when I was 20 years old and I hadn't seen him since I was 13 years old, but I continued to "carry" him around with me and still have remnants of the trauma he caused in my mind. Seeing my mother beaten with the pronged end of a dryer cord until her back was severely punctured and deeply lacerated made me almost catatonic for days. I didn't talk for two years after that night. My step-dad did more things to her that night that I don't talk about online.
My step-dad was a monster and I literally went and urinated on his grave after he died. It wasn't as satisfying as people like to fantasize about when they say they are going to do such things to certain people's grave after that person's death. I prayed all my life to keep bitterness out of my heart because I just didn't want to go down that slippery slope.
So first hearing about the things later in life about Ridgway made me so very thankful that I never even thought of being violent or murderous toward women at all. I believe that it actually pushed me the other way toward being a person to champion causes for battered women. After seeing my mother and sisters beaten in unnatural ways so bad, especially my mother, it made me repelled so bad. I was a kid in school that protected girls fiercely. I was a runt of a kid, but I still stood up to the bullies that treated girls so bad. I took the beating for the girl and didn't mind that beating at all.
It's not that I am bragging, I am just making a point. This point being that when I got a beating for getting between a boy and girl while he was shoving around or touching that girl in a very inappropriate way and I got a beating for it, I realized how much better I felt about that beating than the beatings I got from my step-dad and the beatings he gave my mother and sisters. That simple realization made me know that I would continue to live my life that way.
There's a lot more to this story of my VERY violent step-dad, but I'll save that for maybe another time.
My main point is that the things I saw in regard to the SEVERE beatings that my step-dad perpetrated on me, my mother, and my sisters made me terrified that I would end up like the serial killers that I saw in the news and read novels about in the library. I read 6 grade levels above my age because I learned advanced phonics and comprehension starting at age 3. I have no idea why my mother did this with me, but I have always had extremely high reading comprehension skills and soelling/punctuation/grammar skills. So I read in my very early childhood all about serial killers and just what kind of childhood each of them had and it unnerved me in regard to my own childhood. But I've made it through life pretty well and never had tendencies toward violence of any kind, especially murdering women and having attraction toward my mother. That just repels me in a VERY BIG way, thank God. I wish I could save them all from violence and murder.
As always, I very much enjoyed your analysis and in-depth commentary. I have been kind of binge watching many of your videos I admire you greatly. I like how soft-spoken and articulate you are. You are very easy to listen to and I never find my mind wandering. I immensely appreciate the amount of time and effort you obviously spend in compiling and organizing the information you present in your videos. I can definitely surmise that you spend much time in every aspect of the preparation of the information and in editing the video itself. You make it very clear that you don't use just one source that you glean the presented information from. The things you say indicate multiple sources of information that you have accessed in order to get the most accurate and complete information possible.
This makes the presentation so interesting because it helps we viewers know how convoluted, patchy, incomplete, biased, or just downright tabloidesque some sources are and always will be. You do all of the hard work so that we viewers don't have to and that makes it a pleasure to have such analysis presented that is an awesome result of the fruits of your intensive labor.
So I am very much appreciative of your hard work and the analyses you bring to us. I'll be back for more and more.
Okay, now I'm going to suggest an analysis of someone that you are probably going to laugh and think I'm totally nuts for suggesting analysis of this person, but just me asking is worth a shot to see if you'll do it.
So here goes: I want to hear your analysis of Jesus Christ. Yes, your eyes are not failing you. Jesus Christ. I have no idea how you feel about this man, but I know you are very capable of unbiased analysis based on the accounts of His life as told in the New Testament portion of the Bible. I very much want to hear just what you think of Him and His life, mind, and the mentality you believe He had as His travels and encounters took Him to many places.
Now, of course, I have no idea just what your beliefs are, but I want your analysis to be purely as an observer in the secular sense. If you are a Christian I want you to give your beliefs a place in your analysis and conclusions about Him. I'm requesting this analysis because I've done this before with my Psychiatrist and Psychologist and others that are mental health professionals. After the first time I did this, I found it to be even more interesting and intriguing than I had first anticipated. So every mental health professional I come into contact with, I suggest that they do this. Every one of them have said they were very glad that I had suggested it because it opened their eyes to things about how they view their own belief system (5 of these professionals are Christian, 3 are agnostic, 4 are atheist, and one is Mormon) and the world around them and as a whole. It was VERY interesting to read just what they all wrote. It made me learn a tremendous amount about my own beliefs, me as a person among other people, and so much about my own mortality.
So you're definitely not the first mental health professional that I've suggested this to. I'm not doing this to influence you in any way, shape, or form. It is purely an intellectual exercise. If you do decide to take up my suggestion, I hope you'll decide to make a video about it. But if you don't, I totally understand. You have a certain YT following and I don't ever want you to do anything that could possibly be so polarizing. If you aren't a man of faith in Him then that isn't something I'm going to use against you or for you. That's your business and no one else has the right to tell you what you should or shouldn't believe. It's just that simple.
I am a man of faith in Jesus Christ myself and have been for MANY years. I see belief in God much differently than most people of faith. I don't blab it everywhere. The Bible itself says we are to keep our mouths shut and just live a life of humility and treat others as we would like ourselves treated. Even praying isn't said to be a time of blabbing and a bunch of fancy, articulate words like a speech. (Yeah, look at this gigantic post. LOL) But, anyway, I very much like hearing different individuals' views in regard to Jesus Christ. I never see myself as particularly intelligent and I like to hear the analysis of JC as given by people whom I see as highly intelligent. I'm a Civil Engineer and I don't think that that makes me smart. It's just something that I find incredibly interesting.
Okay, I'll finally stop yammering on and on now. I hope you take up my suggestion. I promise you that if you decide not to or you do decide to and tell me you don't want to make it into a full-fledged video, I will totally understand and I will NEVER tell anyone else that you did so. That's your prerogative and business, not mine. But I do hope you do. Thank you for taking the time to read this novelette I've written here and for considering my words and ideas. It is much appreciated. Take care and God bless.
So sorry for your childhood 😢 thank God you made it thru those feelings..
Al Scabro : May I suggest Jesus Christ was no serial killer!
Pardon me, but who are we, mere mortals to analyse the Son of God? Certainly we can talk about Him, love, worship and pray to Him, read about His life and try to emulate it, but *analyse* God Himself? The mere idea is somewhat absurd.
Who axed
Bro, no one asked for your autobiography
There are only a few UA-cam channels I watch. I’m more of a documentary gal, but your output is just fantastic. Logic, understanding, dry wit… ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Always satisfied
Not sure why I never read much of Gary R. I'm glad someone requested this.
I'd Iike to see an analysis of serial killers in general.
If you search Todds videos, he has many videos about serial killers, and I think he has some about the traits that is often common among serial killers.
Psychopathy, Sadism and so on. Sure, sadism is not a typical serial-killer trait, but some types of serial killers have this in common.
BTK killer is one, while Dahmer was probably not a sadist, even though he did some terrible things to his victims.
Anywhoz, just surf your way on Todds list of uploads, and you will find alot.
Happy easter, and stay healthy =)
I agree that this cases are fascinating. However I feel like doing a blanket episode of them might rob Dr Grandes videos of their fantastic minutia. He is so good at zeroing in on all the little details people often overlook. But again, I totally agree with most of your sentiment. Also who here saw “dr grande” and “serial killers” and made a high pitched squeak and a dance? Just me? Cool. Cool.
My take is that serial killers are all bored individuals with nothing better to do than try to suck the life out of others. Brainless, aimless, weak, cowardly psychopathic schmucks.
@@overimagination2812 All that, revengeful, not remorseful, without empathy and rageful.
Successful serial killers have quite a strong compensatory counterface. So Bundy was charismatic, articulate, intelligence, appealing to women, learned (law student; note, not graduate), altruistic (volunteered on a suicide hotline for several weeks); Jeffrey Dahmer was affable, easygoing, friendly, relaxed, appeared normal to many, showed deep remorse (wanted to be in jail for life), religious (baptised in jail), regretted the actual killing as he just wanted company. On a crasser level, Gacy was a party clown and Ridgway appeared doltish if not almost troglydytic, appeared to experience no joy or pleasure from the murders, seems to not know what's happening to him, is appreciative of jail conditions etc.
This counterface is so well developed I think it exists as a counterpoint to the murderer, the sadist. Both do not fully encapsulate the person - they are like opposite or polar ends on a spectrum of personality. They have a personality that is split into two halves, each at opposite ends of the scale. And this probably gives them the justification to keep going, like a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, the better half justifies the actions of the bad person. The better the good guy, the more licence the bad guy has to unleash.
Hoo boy. Buckle up!
Edit: or don't buckle up. Don't get into the car. Just...don't
James W Lmao 😂
... or just lock all the doors
This analysis shows your commitment to an in-depth, informative research. One that can be acknowledged for the amount of effort you put into the entire video. Thank you.
I had a friend of a friend who claimed to work with him at the trucking company. He said that Ridgway would talk about prostitutes as rats.
They are referred to as lizards here on many channels on UA-cam that show picking them up. I can only assume that these people are happy to bang them anyway.
It’s astonishing that Ridgeway went undetected for so long, unbelievable case!! Thank you for all of the time and research you put into your videos, Dr Grande.
He was a regular at the diner we used to go to when we would skip class in highschool to do our homework. I’ll never forget the look on the waitress’s faces when we all watched it on tv.
Just checking in to see if anybody noticed ridgeway and dr grande have a superficial visual similarity. No? Anybody?
Edit: top notch work as usual, dr G.
Thank u sir. Learning tons about abnormal psych.
They can be twins!
Yep. I was looking for this comment 🤣
@@pluutoop Its his son, dummy.
Omg...yes!! Sorry Dr. G.
This is the most disturbing case you've covered. I was left scared after watching this. Anyway happy Easter and thanks for all you do.
It's incredible how some of the victims could sense they were about to die before he did anything and started pleading with him. Really scary.
Some humans have more psychic abilities than others. I can't even imagine the kinds of energies he was giving off for them to pick up on that. Some serial killers describe becoming sort of possessed when they kill, like a demonic energy takes over.
@@Abruzzo333Its not psychic abilites. Its basic human intuition and instinctual reading of microexpressions in body language. Ridgways internal Rage and fury before he killed probably resulted in incongruent Body language in comparison to his previous behavior. Anger is something People easily pick Up on,youve probably heard someone say that the "energy changed" when someone is really angry but is hiding it
They didn’t ”sense they were about to die” in some spiritual way, they noticed he was acting strangely, they knew there was a killer in the area targeting prostitutes and connected the dots.
This... I don't really have the words. Thank you for sharing your analysis with us Dr Grande.
I side note I recall hearing from Gary Ridgeway is his father often ranted about his hatred of prostitutes as if they were lower life forms.
I'll bet.
they kinda are
@@TronaldDump69 lol. Useless eaters and welfare drains
@@StandWatie1862 killed many ? You seem the type
@@jonathangriffiths2499 want to find out
I admire Dr Grande's interlect and sometimes humour ....it seems to me that when someone suffers cruelty and abuse as a child they can either grow up to be an abuser themselves or become the opposite depending on the level of their intelligence...we are all have choices...i choose love❤
Please continue to do more crime offender analysis and documentary critics! I am a Criminology student and I absolutely love your in-depth take on these case studies.
Thank you for another fascinating, thorough and science-based analysis of one serial killer whose high conscientiousness seems to have contributed to evading detection for so long. I'd add mistakes, including assumptions, by law enforcement contributed to his relatively long career as a serial killer. Could you look into the serial killer Richard Ramirez, whose dedication to Satanism sets him apart and whose defence team did not utilize his extremely violent childhood and dysfunctional family which was a factor in his sensation-seeking and violent behaviours. I'd be interested in your analysis of Ramirez's personality and possible disorders.
Your detailed analysis & calm demeanor just earned a new subscriber :) love your content ❤️
This doctor is the best!!! He also teaches about narcissism with a huge following like ME (a victim of it by a husband). I watch him every day. The learning is amazing. This guy is brilliant beyond most people! Some kind of gift he has.
Dr G! Thanks for continuing your videos! 🤗
I’d be interested to know if Dr. Grande thinks being a serial killer is a form of insanity. I get confused as to how a “sane” person could do these things.
Personality disorder.
no. idc what he or psychology says. i like dr grande 😂but ill just answer for him no.
"Insanity" is a legal term, not a diagnosis in psychology. Being legally insane only means that you did not know between right and wrong at the time of commiting the crime. It's very rare for a murderer to be declared insane. Especially serial killers as anyone who is able to avoid detection long enough to kill more than one person is aware that what they are doing is wrong... Otherwise they wouldn't attempt to hide their crime or their identity etc. It takes a level of planning and deception that wouldn't be accomplished if you didn't know that what you were doing needed to be hidden.
Thanks Dr. Grande for your framing of these cases. They are good learning tools to link behaviours to psychological issues.
Strange that saying you assault prostitutes means the police trust you. Maybe they could consider taking men who are violent to women off the street
To be fair, if somebody actually was going around killing prostitutes regularly, you could see the argument that on average they would probably avoid being honest about soliciting and assaulting them.
I think Dr. Grande's point is that Ridgeway came across as being honest. The police knew he had assaulted a prostitute, so it would've made him seem more suspect if he had denied it. By admitting to wrong doing, he made them believe that while he was violent at times, he could be taken at his word.
Faith Barcelo I totally agree that Dr Grande shows us how the police were thinking, I just think that the police weren't thinking very deeply. Also, just because you're investigating one crime doesn't mean you shouldn't pay attention when someone confesses to another crime. They were happy to get one suspect on unpaid parking fines but turn a blind eye to assaulting women and we should remember the millions wasted on the investigation. The Green River Killer was supposed to have killed dozens of people and it took decades to find him, I think the attitude of police to sex workers and their lack of lateral thinking played a massive role in allowing the murders to take place. Policeman interview criminals all the time, they should be looking for 1/2 truths and partial confessions. Instead once they've decided they have someone they want to nail him regardless of the facts - did the Green River Killer really murder as many people as he confessed to? I doubt it but it's a convenient way for the police to close cases. They were chasing someone with so little intelligence, status or knowledge of the world, total shambles, I have no sympathy for them
@@jamesshaw6363 I 100% agree with you. I do think that in general law enforcement trusts their own judgement too much, especially when it comes to mental health. I agree that if he was killing or even just assaulting "upstanding" members of society, more would have been done sooner, and that's disgusting in my opinion. It seems like police also tend to believe women less when it comes to assault in general, which is equally upsetting, but the prejudice increases when the women come from a low economic standing and/or are sex workers. It feels like there's much prejudice that leads to unprosecuted or continued crimes, it's really saddening when you think about it. This case seems to be a super clear example of that. Him being so careful combined with oversight on the part of law enforcement led to so many more deaths.
Faith Barcelo Absolutely, I wouldn't be surprised if there were two or three killers involved in these murders as well. The police love it when they have a serial killer and use it to clear a backlog of open murders - same with the Iceman case. Whatever's easiest for them I suppose and millions of dollars well spent
Dr Grande!! You are always on point and time 👏🏽👏🏽
I see what you did there with that thumbnail! You always manage to go over the top through the back door. Thanks for being you 😂
I really love the fact that I can come to this channel and listen because I watch a lot of serial killer interviews. At times I asked myself why and if the viewing is bothering me negatively. I like the fact I can come here and get clarification, if that makes sense. Ted Bundy and the night stalker give me chills.
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PROFESSOR!!!! I hope you're going to be covering Sam Little soon 🤩🤩🤩
This was GREAT. 👍👍👍 I had heard him typed as an INFJ, which I don't see at all. I def see him as an ISTJ-A. Meticulous, organized, well-planned, likes a sensory experience (strangulation). We INFJs are similar to ISTJs, but they are mousey and calm, while we have a higher level of nervous energy.
I fantasize about doing treatment planning with you 😆 you are so good at teasing out an informal dx. I really appreciate how you start with the bigger, broader picture; the holistic context. Then you break it down analytically bit by bit, with sx criterion checklists, and aside from your absolutely genius sense of humor, you remain unbiased, factual, and use only the subjective and objective evidence available. Dr. Grande, you set the bar very high!
Fascinating! And love the humour you toss in with a deadpan face from time to time. How do you manage that?
another great analysis Dr Grande, thank you. I wonder if you would do an analysis of David Parker Ray, the toy box killer? He seemed to engage in extreme and prolonged torture of victims and I have struggled to find information on the psychodynamics of his childhood.
Your older videos were so good! The analysis was actually analysis.
Excelent Video Dr. Grande. I would like to see a video of all the different mental issues in men related to hatred of their mothers.
Love your serial killer analyses! Gary Ridgway is one of the most curious ones to me. I also would like to see one on Citizen X in Russia. Seeing his story was gripping!
This is becoming my favorite channel for late night entertainment. Thanks
Great series! I enjoy your take on things, Dr. Grande. I'll keep listening and watching.
Spot ON!
I've always had a spot in my heart for Ridgway. I absolutely do not excuse what he did, he could have gone down so many better paths.. but I've always had a sort of sympathy for the man.
Great as always, Dr. Grande
That's interesting you say that.
I feel similarly about Aileen Wuornos. Cheers
This is how I feel about Jefferey Dahmer. I hope Dr Grande would phsycho analyze this.
@@ashleyk9328 We must relate to and recognise - in that specific individual - our own struggles/demons in them at some level.
Perhaps?
I thought that way about Dahmer too.
Ashley k I have ALWAYS felt genuine empathy for Dahmer as well. So much we could have learned had he not been murdered in prison.
I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL SO MUCH AS A PSYCHOLOGY UNDERGRAD!!!!!! TYSM FOR MAKING THIS INFORMATION MORE ACCESSIBLE
@Dr. Todd Grande is one of my favorite educational channels, that I would personally suggest to anyone who’s also interested in the scientific method of psychology. Great content!
Ridgeway being on one of the top prolific serial killers seems very horrific in summary. So much so that it’s difficult for me to fathom his mentality.
I remember watching a video of him in the courtroom where the Christian father of one of the victims told him that he forgave him. Ridgeway broke down in tears which I found interesting. Since he was a psychopath, I presumed it likely that he was crying for himself. I wonder how Dr. Grande would interpret that incident. Great video as always.
Dr. Grande, excellent analysis as always. I see many similarities with Ridgway and BTK. I find their abilities to live "normal lives" and go undetected at such length extremely fascinating, as well as many missed opportunities by law enforcement.
thanks for the tip about Samuel Little, another serial killer rabbit hole for me to dive into
BTK also learned the unfortunate fact about cops... That if you act cooperative and reasonable, and subtly acknowledge their authority, they will automatically assume you are the good guy.
Fun fact: Ted Bundy was involved in this case as he helped the police.
Mr. Fantasy Ted called him “the river man” I believe...and told them to stake out dump sites
Yes, and interestingly I believe that is part of what inspired author Thomas Harris for the idea to have Hannibal Lecter help Clarice find Buffalo Bill!
Ted is always fun.
Oh wow! Thanks for that! Very interesting indeed!
He could have used his assistance as a reason for Clemency. One killer helping to stop another surely cancels out a bit of what he did. Maybe another 10 years of life or something. He should have got something for it, if he put a lot of effort and time into it.
If I may disagree with your position on whether or not he required excessive admiration.
He admits that his second wife didn't kiss his ass enough so he had to kill women. If you've ever lived with one, you recognize this from a mile away.
I love the thumbnail Dr G!
The likeness is uncanny 😂
Pimp = "business manager" LMAOOOOO
Hahahahahhahaahahhahha lmfao ☠
He's not incorrect
Yep.
You crack me up Dr Grande, learning is fun with you!
I never heard of this case till I moved to Washington and went to the hardware store one night. The cashier made a robotic comment about a membership number and my response broke him out of his stupor. He made a comment about why he does costumer service now and proceeded to tell me how he used to work at a trucking company in Renton and was there the night his co-worker, the Greenway Killer was arrested. Thanks for the video Dr.Grande
I remember this murder spree, it was theorized that the perp might have been a police officer, I used to read True Detective magazines since I was a young child, always been fascinated with Serial Killers, still am to this day,the Dark Side fascinates me, always has, good work! Great videos!! Keep it up man!!
Sounds to me like he compensated for his low IQ with high conscientiousness. Interesting case, I enjoyed following along in your analysis of it!
Doesn't seem low IQ to me....meticulous planning implies different. We're talking about a guy who killed 50 people over 20 years....the word 'dumb' or 'stupid' does not come to mind regardless of his level of conscientiousness....
@@BijahD In the video it says he had an IQ of around 80. I mean it could be, he was reading true crime stories a lot, if one would study those systematically and carefully I guess you could pull it off. The nature of high conscientiousness is being careful, deliberate and having a tendency to plan things out. Combined with the extra motivational push of having psychpathic/anti social traits.. But I can see where you're coming from, it's still quite a story.
@@justme-ld9xz In interviews I've seen of him he doesn't strike me as essentially a retarded adult at all....he seems relatively articulate for an uneducated person actually...
@@BijahD Hmm.. I haven't seen any interviews, but that's a good point. Maybe he faked the IQ test, just like he could've manipulated the pseudo scientific lie detector test. However, folks with IQ's in the 80 range can sometimes go undetected in a conversation about a certain topic they tend to lash on to, assuming the topic of the interview was one of those for him. It's when you get i depth that it tends to show up. I can't know for sure, but interesting point.
@@justme-ld9xz Yeah good point!
What do you think was going on with him when a victim’s father forgave him during victim impact statements? His demeanor cracked and I was floored. It’s like seeing a flicker of humanity when you would swear there was none.
Exhaustion?
@@dsoule4902 that’s actually a great thought I didn’t think of that
@@rubyslippers6716 I don't know. But "they" aren't moved emotionally by others. Otoh, how do they get off on others' pain when the don't have empathy?
Ive Just discovered your channel it popped up randomly. Oh my god! This is incredible. Thank you for all you do. what a binge i have ahead of me
Ridgeway said, "I Don't have that caring thing."
He was on the fringe of actual retardation
That says it all.
I'm getting ready to move to Washington state, and I appreciate all the info on the area's serial killers. PLUS, I always love every one of Dr. Grande's videos!!!!! It's too bad that Ridgway had such a horrible childhood, but once he became an adult, it would have been good for him to seek help to find out why he had certain inclinations.
I also understand that people like him don't even realize that their behavior is a problem. What a mess.
@@cindyrhodes I have a notion they might be aware, they just don't care.
I've seen a interview with one of his workmates and he said that Gary ridgeway was absolute perfectionist at his job and was by far the best at his job at the place they worked at! Which firs perfectly with your analysis
"So an important note here, asking somebody if they are a killer is not a successful strategy for staying alive." lmao
It's amazing to me that he got away doing these hideous acts for so long.
He never seemed like he had more than MAYBE an average IQ, yet like this Dr. implied, he was very careful with every detail as to leave no evidence.
Just fascinating really.
Thank you for your interesting and informative views.
One thing I don't think the doctor touched on - he was painting trucks, in that era the paint they were using was pretty toxic stuff. A lot of those guys were nuts. If Ridgway wasn't wearing a mask like EVERY day, that could've affected his IQ and parts of his personality. There's a famous article called "the criminal element" about lead. Crime was higher, children more likely to have learning difficulties, all kinds of social problems can be linked to lead in fuel, paint, and pipes. When people are exposed to certain chemicals, as Ridgway was at work with his toxic truck paint and possibly in Vietnam - it can change their personalities and chemistry. It can make them more prone to impulsivity and violence.
Unbelievable he held a steady job for decades. Being sociable enough to be part of a team, not a problem at work etc, self discipline to stick to an early morning routine etc.
Hello Dr, Grande. As strange as it may be, I like that you are covering these cases. Not only are your speculations on criminal behavior interesting, they take us a way from the highly disorientating, current pandemic situatiom the entire world is realing from. Thanks.