Thank you! I requested this to you and commented on one of your messed up origins. I read the original story and decided to request it because *shrug* why not!
I have to say that my favourite version of little red riding hood has to be the Roald Dahl one because of a few iconic lines such as: 'The small girl smiles. One eyelid flickers. She whips a pistol from her knickers. She aims it at the creatures head, and Bang Bang Bang, she shoots him dead... A few weeks later, in the wood. I came across Miss Riding Hood. But what a change! No cloak of red, No silly hood upon her head. She said, 'Hello, and do please note, my lovely furry WOLFSKIN COAT.' I mean, if that's not bad ass I don't know what is...
Almost wet myself laughing...that is such an apt summary of the brothers...Also, favorite definition of a fairytale....whimsical stories told as children's tales now, that were never meant as children's stories when written...
This tale is definitely a warning about sexual predators. It's about how you can distinguish between predators (the ' Wolf ') and protectors (the hunter or woodsman). Very disturbing and terrifying. It's also, necessary.
This was another right in your face moment. Why is she wearing red? It’s the same color as adrenochrome. hunting parties by the royal families. Remember, they must show signs. Even if they’re a cartoon from Wayback.
Let me get this straight.. Some dude under the grandmas covers tells a little girl to take off her clothes and get in bed, and she realised he is hairy and has a "tail"... What if it was never a wolf?...
I wouldn't mind reading a variation of the story that goes like that, but I know it would *definitely* be more morbid... And I thought *I* was bad with my rape scenes in my roleplays and stories!
To top it off, the color red on the titular character sometimes represents menstruation so it's like she's coming of age and attracting unwanted attention as she steps into womanhood.
How can a mother let her, let's say 7 year old, daughter walk in a forest alone? Like... I'm 22 now and my mother still don't want me to go somewhere alone 🙄😂
Kids weren't always as protected as they are today. They were expected to use their heads and keep themselves safe. A bit older and she'd be working the family farm, minding the animals, learning to weave, spin and cook....her free roaming days are nearly over. In seven more years she'll be a wed to someone. Childhood was short. I'm not even saying that it was safer back then, it definitely wasn't. They just expected kids to grow up faster and to think.
I guess at that time, there weren't helicopter parents. Unlike now and freak out when you're sweeping and accidently drop the broom and of course it's super loud, no that didn't happen to me, why?
"The big bad wolf" always came across as a sexual predator to me. Some anthropologists believe the story is based on the solar system - the sun (red) is eaten by the terrible black night (the wolf), and the variations in which she is cut out of the wolf's belly represent the dawn.
I could see how you would make that connection. A wolf is synonymous for a male (usually older) who often lures and tricks rabbits. (Young girls or women).
@scribble71891 i thought the big bad wolf being synonymous to a male rapist was abit more recent but considering the oldest version described involved a detailed stripping, getting in bed with the monster after the aforementioned stripping, and the pee thing that finally tips her off that something is wrong, dont think i need metaphors to see that one
Does anyone else know the version of the story where the wolf, instead of dying on the spot, wakes up thirsty, goes to the well to drink from it and falls in head first, because the stones in his belly weight him down?
I only know that from the story with the 7 (?) little goats - mama goat is out, baby goats all get eaten except for the youngest which helps mom cutting his siblings free from the wolf's belly. They then put stones in, sew the wolf shut, he wakes up thirsty, falls into the well and drowns (and I believe the goats danced around the well, too - been a long time since I've last heard that story).
I also know that version. But I'm not sure is that actually happens in Red Riding Hood. There's a german fairytale where a wolf wants to eat what I believe are goat babies while their mom is away and he tries to teick them into opening the door through various schemes. At first they manage to avoid him but then they get eaten eventually. All except the youngest one who didn't get eaten because it hid in the grandfather clock. When their mom comes home the wolf lies in the garden tired from his big meal and when the mom realises what happend she and her youngest child cut the wolf open to save the others. Then they put stones in his stomach and sew it shut. When tje wolf finally wakes up and makes his way to the fountain because he's thirsty the weight of the stones overwhelmes him and he fall inside.
Milena Ziemann Ups, seems like I mixed the two fairytales! 😁 Now that you mention it I remember being pretty scared of ‘Der Wolf und die sieben Geißlein‘ (The wolf and the seven goat kids) when I was younger. I used to have nightmares about that wolf! 🙈😅
That wolf was scary. Not only because of the way he acted but also because he invaded their home (where kids should feel safe, right?). I didn't have nightmares but I also found the story to be more terrifying than little red riding hood.
The fact that in all the older versions of this story has the creature thing telling the little girl to take off all of her clothes makes me wonder if the writers had witnessed something like it before and didn't want other children to go through that and wrote the stories with those elements in them.
I’m guessing yeah they probably heard news about it since their have been pedo men for a long time like when the Greeks still ruled and had “gods”. Sad though but it’s good they made it a book for children can learn to not talk to strangers. I as a kid was scared from this book and learned to not talk to strangers so I’m hoping other kids even hundreds of years ago also learned the same 👍
Dude that line gave me chills, haha. Makes me think the hunter had some history with that wolf. I've also heard versions where instead of a hunter rescuing Little Red Riding Hood and her grandma, it's a woodsman with an axe. Same difference I guess. XD
@@RainbowEssence-c3w I agree,I was wondering if the hunter had been after that wolf for years.Really that Jon Solo was going to get into that too but I guess not.Leave it to theories I assume
My Dad told me LRRH almost every night when I was little. When he was talking about the wolf putting on Grandma's nightcap, night gown and slippers, I shouted: "AND HE PUT ON GRANDMA'S UNDIES!" Truly a child of Australia
The term “slut” means something very different today. Originally, it was a derogatory term often assigned to kitchen maids if they were not immaculate in appearance or hyper vigilant regarding cleanliness and hygiene. In the early 1400s, when slut first appeared in English, it meant roughly what one sense of slattern means today: a slovenly, untidy woman or girl.
Please do the Messed Up Origins of the following: Hansel and Gretel Frozen The Lion King The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride The Sword in the Stone Chicken Little Mickey and the Beanstalk The Steadfast Tin Soldier (from Fantasia 2000) The Ugly Duckling Babes in the Woods The Grasshopper and the Ants The Wise Little Hen The Tortoise and the Hare The Big Bad Wolf Music Land The Goddess of Spring Brave Little Tailor
@@danielledonohue8226 The storyline of The Lion King 2 is inspired by Romeo and Juliet because Simba and Nala's daughter, Kiara secretly falls in love with Kovu, a male rogue lion from a banished pride that was once loyal to Simba's evil uncle, Scar but Simba disapproves of their love.
One of my college professors, while talking about old tales, told us Red Riding Hood was a metaphor for puberty. The girl is no longer doing what her mom says and wants to be independent. My professor also said that in one version of the tale (i can't remember which) she rips some pieces of her hood by accident while she's in the forest and that that simbolizes her having her first period? I'm not sure if this is true but I found it interesting.
My Psychology professor said kinda the same thing. " Little Red Cap's " red cap was menstruation. The wolf swallowing the grandmother whole symbolized the desire for men to understand and imitate the power of pregnancy and childbirth that only women have. Which means that the woodcutter did the wolf a favor by performing a c-section.
Thank you, I knew I heard this interpretation before. I've heard that "Red Riding Hood" can be seen as meaning the breaking of the hymen (pardon the graphic nature) or the first menstrual cycle. I apprecaite your saying here before me so I know I'm not imagining it.
I don't think this is a dark tale, its more like a cautionary tale that teaches children that they should be aware of strangers and not to divulge personal information. Children are easily trusting and believe anything that any adult says, since they're gullible they usually fall for anything that any random adult on the street tells them and it at times leads them to harm or in the worst case death. I think this is a really old stranger danger tale to protect children from the ones who might do them harm.
Yep, as a kid, my Mum read me the story and used the opportunity to explain that it meant that children shouldn't talk to strangers/go off with them. Really old story but the message still holds true.
+Travis Fisher None of that makes it not Dark. It’s dark as fuck. How many of today’s cautionary tales involve a little girl eating her grandmother’s flesh? You must be blurry on the term Dark.
They made it like that as a warning to young women back then. Charles Perrault made his version as a cautionary tale to noble women to not trust strange men.
Um...the original version seems so messed up! Wolf: Take off your clothes and get into bed with me Riding Hood: Grandma! What a big...wait...you aren't supposed to have-- *FBI barges in and arrests the wolf* It's a good thing they had him on their "watch" list.
Do not put your faith In a cape and a hood They will not protect you The way that they should And take extra care with strangers Even flowers have their dangers And though scary is exciting Nice is different than good Now I know Don't be scared Granny is right Just be prepared Isn't it nice to know a lot And a little bit not
Mother said, straight ahead Not to delay or be mislead I should have heeded her advice But he seemed so nice And he showed me things, many beautiful things That I hadn't thought to explore They were off my path, so I never had dared I had been so careful, I never had cared And he made me feel excited Well, excited and scared When he said come in with that sickening grin How could I know what was in store Once his teeth were bare, though I really got scared Well, excited and scared But he drew me close and he swallowed me down Down a dark, slimy path Where lie secrets that I never want to know And when everything familiar seemed to disappear forever At the end of the path was Granny once again So we lay in the dark, 'til you came and set us free And you brought us to the light And we're back at the start And I know things now, many valuable things That I hadn't known before Do not put your faith in a cape and a hood They will not protect you the way that they should And take extra care with strangers Even flowers have their dangers And though scary is exciting Nice is different than good Now I know, don't be scared Granny's right, just be prepared Isn't it nice to know a lot And a little bit... NOT.
I remember hearing a story about a mother sheep who's babies were eaten by a hungry wolf. Similar to little red story, the mother cuts the wolf open, saves her babies, fills the wolf with rocks, and leaves him to drown in a river. There was a short Japanese film called "My Little Lamb" that's based off the story...Which may or may not be more disturbing than the tale itself.
One thing to consider about why the False Grandmother is horrific, is that this fable came out during the rise and rule of the Roman Catholic Church. And the Wolf having Red eating the body of her Grandmother and drinking the blood is meant to be a perversion of Communion. Thus damning the child.
I actually learned about the canabilism thing from the original story during a history class. The strange things you can learn during history are endless.
Hey Jon solo I think I know why the French version of the story is so dark . At the time France was plagued with wolf attacks with several werewolf like creatures nicknamed the Beast of Gavouden having killed several young women the first recorded victim being a girl returning through the forest from the market. In fact the next victim was also a girl but she survived because she wore a hooded cape which while turned red from blood keep the wolf from seriously damaging her neck and the Beast was chased off by the other shepherds which had the cows they were herding stampede scaring it off . Crazy right.
The first "victimn" of the beast was a girl tending to her cattle, she saw the beast run towards her, however, the bulls in the herd charged the beast keeping it at bay. They then drove it off after it attacked a second time, the first official victim of the beast was the 14-year-old Janne Boulet, who was killed near the village of Les Hubacs near the town of Langogne.
The story I grew up hearing had a few differences from the “most modern” version (the Grimm one). The big difference it’s that Red took a short cut instead of the safe road and met the Wolf, told him where her Grandma lived and the Wolf got there faster than the little girl. He never strained her from her path, but she went to the smaller road ‘cause she didn’t want to take long, even if her mother told her to take the longer road
"I have no idea what kind of diets these people were on, but I know why they're life spans we're so short." He says all subtle, like it's not a hallarius joke about the 16th century
I realize I'm not him, but daily exfoliation works wonders. (After-shave lotion is the best lotion to use on a face because it's too thin to clog pores.)
But isn't daily exfoliation said to be too much? I recently started washing my face once a day with soap and in the morning with just water instead of both times with soap and i noticed almost immediately that my skin was less irritated, my most stubborn acne calmed down and I believe I'm getting less sebum production but that could be as a result of the cooler weather.
The story, as we have heard it and seen it in pictures and movies as kids, is about a little girl (you say she's about 7 years old). The original story never specifies her age. In the Austrian psychologist Bruno Bettelheim's interesting analyzes of the story he is talking about a pubertal girl. He says that the story (obviously) tells us about a girl facing the dangerous world outside home. In his analyzes the red hood symbolizes her first period (his words, not mine). There are two kinds of men, so to speak, the wolf and the hunter. And the young girl must learn how to identify them. It is not a coincidence that the hunter calls the wolf "old sinner", he is depicted as THE sinner in the world of young girls. The symbolism in the end is that Little Red Riding Hood is reborn from the belly of the wolf, with new knowledge and more mature now than before. According to this analyzes it is not so strange anymore that the wolf in the various versions tries to undress and bed the girl. That is actually what it's all about. And you also need to understand that it was no specific differences between stories for kids and adults during those days. Many of the classic stories were told both for children and the rest of the family at the same time. And, yes, they were cruel and horrifying and not yet as “correct” as modern fairy tales. :)
So...its a 14 year old girl, Going through puberty... And she went on a errand... She got Violated,raped... And ultimately killed... God,why is everything so f-ed up
What I think about this story: This is a warning to young girls about soft spoken and cunning men that will eliminate their older more wise females from the picture to con the sweet lass into well ...you get the point. Its a predator warning.
Maybe when the wolf dresses as a the grandma it represents that predators can pretend to be someone trustworthy and nice, like a grandmother (most grandmothers)
That, too. But I don't think the moral of this story is that specific. It's a general warning for children against any adult who could hurt and abuse them in any way or even kill them. A warning not to reveal too much information to them, and preferably not to talk to them at all. Making the antagonist a wolf and him eating people is a bonus warning against wild animals in the woods (I'm not saying it was as important as the warning against people but still worth noting).
One thing I feel you missed in the second story is that the moral is for young women to avoid charming men who will try to seduce them. At a time when a woman's virginity was her most valuable asset, that was a serious danger.
The original version alludes to sexual predators is ones own family. One interpretation of the “wolf” in the original Grandmothers Tale is that the “wolf” is the girls grandfather
@Mark G every version I've heard alludes to sexuality. It's subtle in some, but some have the little girl get naked with a wolf or frolick around with an anatomically correct wolf(aka the play version of Into the Woods.) Change the context of what the wolf is saying or look at what wolves symbolize and you get the picture.
+songofafreeheart I never thought of her as anything but a little girl, so that never crossed my mind. I took it more as a tale for all kids to not blindly trust all adults and other similar meanings. I also never thought of the wolf as a man, bc he’s a wolf, and mainly bc he’s impersonating her grandmother. I mean, she’s so close to believing it definitely is her grandmother, that she eats a piece of meat it gives her, which turns out to be grandma flesh. I’m glad I never knew that part as a kid. I wonder what their original idea was for the overall takeaway? You definitely could be right, I just always assume she buys the wolf as her grandma bc all children fall for every ridiculous thing in these stories.
For my high school drama class, we had to write short plays that were reinvented fairy tales. The group who did little red had her as a sorority girl named Rose who meets a charming older man. Despite her friends telling her "let's just go home, come on, we don't trust this guy", she decides that she wants to have some fun and go get a drink with the man. He ushers her away and into a dark alley after the friends leave, the lights went out and she screamed. The lights come back on and it is the next day, her friends are looking for her and they see the man. They ask what happened to Rose, and he sort of chuckles and says "oh, you won't be hearing from that pretty thing anymore". It is not clear if he raped her or killed her or both, but most versions of the story do have rapey and even pedophile tones.
There is another Chinese version of this story. The mother leaves to visit grandma and leaves her three children home. A wolf tried to trick them. They pulled him up into a tree to get berries but they keep dropping him over and over again until he dies.
I think some people doing laundry in a river helped her cross too in some other versions. They tie their sheets together but when the wolf wants to cross, they untie it and he gets swept away and drowns.
I actually argued that this morning...back in those times cake wasnt the sweet treat that we got on birthdays...sugar and cocoa wasnt yet in europe...it was the residue left on the pan after the bread was removed after baking...so when Marie Antwonette said...let them eat cake...it angered the people who actually had to scrape that off to have something to eat...
That's what being "eaten" is a metaphor for. I'm not even joking, Little Red Riding Hood is about sex, that is literally what it's about, I studied fairy tales in college. So yeah, he did.
I always used to think as a kid hearing the story, ‘Why does the wolf have to spend all that time dressing up pretending to be someone so she trusts it, why doesn’t it just eat her?!..’
I always thought, when hearing the story that the wolf was a werewolf. Kudos to Perrault for trying to warn young ladies, in the most subtle possible way, about the wolf that is man (Maybe that is where the belief in werewolves *really* gets it's origin).
That's what usually happens in real life so next time you see a naked lady running home you should offer to help instead of shaming her or looking down upon her
Damn I think my grandma would even be sicker with cake and wine LOL! But wow I never knew that there's an even older version than Perrault! I knew Perrault's, but not the older one
@@blessedcocoa5729 Meanwhile my grandpa made fortified wine that he'd serve mixed with tea to anyone who he even THOUGHT was sick. Didn't cure a thing... except sobriety.
Well believe it or not red wine is actually good for your heart and if you have low blood sugar lemon cake back then will actually raise it up and stable it
After watching all this versions, the the fact this were meant for specially beautiul young girls... The the fact the wolf makes the girl strip and get in bed with him, for eating her, seems like a metaphore for the girl getting raped by an evil wolf (an evil man). So it seems like a warning for them at the time. The worst part is, this still happends in the real world.
It kinda reminds me of Ever after high. Where in that show cerise the daughter of little red riding hood was also the wolf but it's was because her father was the big bad wolf and she had wolf ears which she hide with her hood as to keep her family secret safe.
Happy (early) birthday Jon! You're right, great men are born on October 23rd because that's also my brother's bday. 😁 I've been waiting so long for you to cover the story of Little Red because it definitely fits into the category of messed up origins- and then some! I was in 11th grade when I had to write an essay on the Perrault version and compare it to other renditions and modern day conceptions as well. It was interesting to study, but man did it make my stomach churn! I actually remember learning about the origin of Little Red drinking her grandma's blood. I saw one of the special features on the Sweeney Todd DVD where they went over the origins of Sweeney himself, respectfully. They talked about how Sweeney Todd was told as a common bedtime story, and while that may be odd by today's standards, they also mentioned the other morbid tales told to children (such as that particular rendition of Little Red) which were intended to keep them on the straight and narrow path. Chilling and interesting stuff, ain't it? Can't wait to see what you have in store throughout the rest of October!
There's a game called Overlord: Dark Legend, that's part of a series of Overlord games, where they also take the Little Red Riding Hood story and put a twist on it. in the game you keep expecting the Big Bad Wolf to attack Little Red while you escort her to her grandmother's house. but the big plot twist is that Little Red is actually a Werewolf and you kill her in a boss battle. in my opinion I thought this was kinda a neat twist, combining both characters together making the hero of the story secretly the villain. but that's just my opinion
Red slumps back into the bed slowly suddenly anxious and looks up at the ceiling; an 'oh' of realization forming on her lips as she nods awkwardly letting out a small 'ok' processing the mentaly scarring sentence she just heard.... **SPRINTS**
@@JonSolo it would be easier to just read the Time/Life series of books on this subject...they did a series on the paranormal...with one volume being on these fairy tales and the orgins...
23rd October is my birthday too! Also, I looked up the paper and the Aesop's tale that is supposed to be similar to Red Riding hood is this one - Mother Goat was going to market one morning to get provisions for her household, which consisted of but one little Kid and herself. “Take good care of the house, my son,” she said to the Kid, as she carefully latched the door. “Do not let anyone in, unless he gives you this password: ‘Down with the Wolf and all his race!'” Strangely enough, a Wolf was lurking near and heard what the Goat had said. So, as soon as Mother Goat was out of sight, up he trotted to the door and knocked. “Down with the Wolf and all his race,” said the Wolf softly. It was the right password, but when the Kid peeped through a crack in the door and saw the shadowy figure outside, he did not feel at all easy. “Show me a white paw,” he said, “or I won’t let you in.” A white paw, of course, is a feature few Wolves can show, and so Master Wolf had to go away as hungry as he had come. “You can never be too sure,” said the Kid, when he saw the Wolf making off to the woods. Moral Two sureties are better than one.
Actually, I think what you are describing is a tale by Aesop that inspired another Grimm story; the Wolf and the Seven Young Goats. Not sure how famous this story is worldwide but where I am from (the Netherlands) it is just as well-known as Little Red Riding Hood. In the story, 7 little goats are left alone by their mother who goes grocery shopping, when a wolf shops up at the door. He pretends to be their mother but the goats hear a gruff voice instead so they don't fall for his tricks. The wolf eats some honey to soften his voice and he tries again, but the goats see his black paw through the window, so no luck this time either. So, the wolf uses flour to make his paw white and tries a third time, and this time the goats believe it is their mother and let him in. He eats six of the goats except for the smallest one, who hides in a big grandfather clock. The wolf goes to sleep and when mother returns, the little goat jumps out, tells her what happened and together they rescue the other goats by cutting open his belly and replacing the goats with big rocks (much the same as the ending to Little Red Riding Hood). The wolf goes to the river to drink some water, but because of the weight of the rocks, falls in and drowns. Since you mentioned the white paw and the mother goat I am inclined to believe that Aesops story was actually the inspiration for this Grimm story, rather than LRRH, although they are both awesome stories :)
She may have believed that grandma needed warming up. Skin to skin contact IS the cure for hypothermia. In those days, it may not have been an unusual request/command for children.
Was she naked though? She took off her clothes, but that could mean her outer layer and still could be wearing her undergarments, which back then would've been like pajamas.
Mom: Honey, where are your clothes? Girl: I went to grandmas house and there was a wolf there pretending to be her! He almost ate me but I got away. The meal he prepared wasn't good either. The wine tasted like metal! Mom:...Fine if you're not gonna tell me you can go straight to bed! We're going back to grandmas first thing in the morning!
The sickness her grandmother was trying to cure with cake and wine ? That’s depression 😂.... sweets plus alcohol is a remedy for either depression or heart break and unless grandpa just died I doubt it’s heartbreak.... 😂😂😂
Family Guy episode Grimm Job: Lois: "Remember: stay on the path and you'll be fine." Stewie: "Yeah, that's great advice coming from Mother of the Year. You do realize Grandma lives 68 miles away, right? You're sending your child out there to die."
what struck me as just wtf in the older versions is the girl actually stripping, what little girl thinks "oh grandma wants me to strip and get in bed, ok not weird at all" that just made no sense and the little girl never really questioned it in any version that has her strip. even her eating her grandma's flesh didn't bother me as much strangely but in truth, she never knew and thought it was just some food and wine, but she knew what stripping was.so it kinda disturbed me how fine she was with stripping and getting in bed with her grandma.
What if living in the middle of the woods means you don't have access to information on actual predators. I assume the mom tells her kid "watch out for that shortcut" and not "watch out for that rapist". Red probably didn't even think it was wrong because her little mind is so innocent!
@@Eyezpopmusic exactly and before he even gets into all the morbid details, he informs us she is super young to the point where she is completely innocent and doesn't understand, kids are smart, but sometimes what you would typically think a child would think was strange as anyone else would if they were asked, it would go way over their head, especially when it's coming from someone they think they can trust, in this case her gran
Yeah, that part was... ew. But, you gotta remember, back then sleeping in the same bed as your grandmother or another relative was fairly common. As for the stripping part... I got nothing. Maybe someone better versed in history can explain that one to me. Idk, people were messed up back the and for some reason nudeness wasn't seen as sexual as it is today, lol. Besides all that, as others have said, Red was a little girl who didn't know any better and her grandmother was kind of an authority figure so she just did what she was told. Even today, small children will usually do whatever an adult, especially a relative, tells them to do, simply because they are an "authority figure".
CONSPIRACY THEORY!! The Little Red Riding Hood's wolf and the Three Little Piggies' wolf is the SAME WOLF. No but seriously, what kind of wolf has a knack for impersonating people??
Wolf is just the term used for predators as in bad people who pretend to be good but have bad intentions. That was kinda the kink back in the day authors had, they would write about the problems in society through children's stories. If u think of all the characters as people you'll get what the story actually says.
As a kid I always found little red riding hood’s story interesting. When the local high school did “Into the woods,” she began my first dream role. Like I identified with her so well. I’ve seen a lot of artwork with her looking similar to me. My grandmother was sexually and emotionally abusive. I think looking back I identified with her, and just didn’t know it yet.
"Großmutter, warum hast du so große Ohren?" - "Damit ich dich besser hören kann" "Großmutter, warum hast so große Augen?" - "Damit ich dich besser sehen kann." "Aber Großmutter, warum hast du so ein schrecklich großes Maul?" - "DAMIT ICH DICH BESSER FRESSEN KANN!" Diese Konversation hab ich nie vergessen ^^
"Some girl who can't tell the difference between a wolf and her grandmother must either have been as dense as teak or come from an extremely ugly family."
I’m amazed how you went over the origins of Little Red Riding Hood and didn’t get demonetized honestly. You somehow managed to delicately and unobviously say that the whole moral was about childhood sexual assault
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Thank you! I requested this to you and commented on one of your messed up origins. I read the original story and decided to request it because *shrug* why not!
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Jon: I'm curious what illness cake and wine can cure
Depression Jon, depression
I’m glad I’m not the only who thought this when he said that.
So true
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There is definitely no bottle in the version I have been told.
Amen
I have to say that my favourite version of little red riding hood has to be the Roald Dahl one because of a few iconic lines such as: 'The small girl smiles. One eyelid flickers. She whips a pistol from her knickers. She aims it at the creatures head, and Bang Bang Bang, she shoots him dead... A few weeks later, in the wood. I came across Miss Riding Hood. But what a change! No cloak of red, No silly hood upon her head. She said, 'Hello, and do please note, my lovely furry WOLFSKIN COAT.'
I mean, if that's not bad ass I don't know what is...
That's the best thing ive ever heard
We read this in the English class at school
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Roald dahl is so cool...
AYEEEEE messed up fairy tales on netflix lol
You know it’s weird when the brothers story is normal
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Ikr?
Almost wet myself laughing...that is such an apt summary of the brothers...Also, favorite definition of a fairytale....whimsical stories told as children's tales now, that were never meant as children's stories when written...
Great point!
@@siomhe8539 But if they weren't meant to be children's stories... what exactly was their purpose?
This tale is definitely a warning about sexual predators. It's about how you can distinguish between predators (the ' Wolf ') and protectors (the hunter or woodsman).
Very disturbing and terrifying. It's also, necessary.
This was another right in your face moment. Why is she wearing red? It’s the same color as adrenochrome. hunting parties by the royal families. Remember, they must show signs. Even if they’re a cartoon from Wayback.
Red riding hood: what big teeth you have!!
Wolf: what bad eyes you have....
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Man the wolf is savage
Maybe the mom shouldn't have sent this small child alone to grandma's house.
Parenting was much more lax back then
I mean... survival of the smartest?
lol
Synthra Official have her be packing heat then cake butter and glock for granny
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Maybe...
Let me get this straight.. Some dude under the grandmas covers tells a little girl to take off her clothes and get in bed, and she realised he is hairy and has a "tail"... What if it was never a wolf?...
Speed Active oh fuck-
I wouldn't mind reading a variation of the story that goes like that, but I know it would *definitely* be more morbid... And I thought *I* was bad with my rape scenes in my roleplays and stories!
Well....can't unread that....damn
Oh damn...I'm never gonna be able to tell my son that story without thinking about that now-
To top it off, the color red on the titular character sometimes represents menstruation so it's like she's coming of age and attracting unwanted attention as she steps into womanhood.
How can a mother let her, let's say 7 year old, daughter walk in a forest alone? Like... I'm 22 now and my mother still don't want me to go somewhere alone 🙄😂
Graysse GV bc this story took place years ago. doy
Kids weren't always as protected as they are today. They were expected to use their heads and keep themselves safe. A bit older and she'd be working the family farm, minding the animals, learning to weave, spin and cook....her free roaming days are nearly over. In seven more years she'll be a wed to someone. Childhood was short.
I'm not even saying that it was safer back then, it definitely wasn't. They just expected kids to grow up faster and to think.
ikr
I guess at that time, there weren't helicopter parents.
Unlike now and freak out when you're sweeping and accidently drop the broom and of course it's super loud, no that didn't happen to me, why?
@Robert Patter unrelated but as a musical theatre fan it really bugs me that you said in the woods instead of into the woods lol
"The big bad wolf" always came across as a sexual predator to me. Some anthropologists believe the story is based on the solar system - the sun (red) is eaten by the terrible black night (the wolf), and the variations in which she is cut out of the wolf's belly represent the dawn.
Yeah. Especially the clothes part.
I could see how you would make that connection. A wolf is synonymous for a male (usually older) who often lures and tricks rabbits. (Young girls or women).
fake news
Into the Woods, anyone?
@scribble71891 i thought the big bad wolf being synonymous to a male rapist was abit more recent but considering the oldest version described involved a detailed stripping, getting in bed with the monster after the aforementioned stripping, and the pee thing that finally tips her off that something is wrong, dont think i need metaphors to see that one
That cat was savage
Why didn't he eat the slut shaming cat? Seriously the cat seems to be a easy target.
@@gigidestinylee ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sassy 3000 you know what, good point.
“””””””””.;;;;;0
Sassy 3000 he could just go like “now that we have all the distractions out of the way....”
Let's eat grandma.
Let's eat, grandma.
Punctuation saves lives, spread the good word
Hard-boiled the panda eats, shoots and leaves.
Vs
The panda eats shoots and leaves.
Lol my grandma has a sign that's says that
its a homestuck/andrew hussie tweet reference
Lets eat out grandma
genius lol
I feel like the actual moral of this story is go to grandma's house with your damn kid.
Amen.
👏🏿
Mom was probably too busy with the other 5 children she had.
Or right don't let your kids go alone
A freaking men.
Does anyone else know the version of the story where the wolf, instead of dying on the spot, wakes up thirsty, goes to the well to drink from it and falls in head first, because the stones in his belly weight him down?
I only know that from the story with the 7 (?) little goats - mama goat is out, baby goats all get eaten except for the youngest which helps mom cutting his siblings free from the wolf's belly. They then put stones in, sew the wolf shut, he wakes up thirsty, falls into the well and drowns (and I believe the goats danced around the well, too - been a long time since I've last heard that story).
I also know that version. But I'm not sure is that actually happens in Red Riding Hood. There's a german fairytale where a wolf wants to eat what I believe are goat babies while their mom is away and he tries to teick them into opening the door through various schemes. At first they manage to avoid him but then they get eaten eventually. All except the youngest one who didn't get eaten because it hid in the grandfather clock. When their mom comes home the wolf lies in the garden tired from his big meal and when the mom realises what happend she and her youngest child cut the wolf open to save the others. Then they put stones in his stomach and sew it shut. When tje wolf finally wakes up and makes his way to the fountain because he's thirsty the weight of the stones overwhelmes him and he fall inside.
Milena Ziemann Ups, seems like I mixed the two fairytales! 😁 Now that you mention it I remember being pretty scared of ‘Der Wolf und die sieben Geißlein‘ (The wolf and the seven goat kids) when I was younger. I used to have nightmares about that wolf! 🙈😅
@@Hilia1110 me too😅 that one was the scariest wolf of all for me!
That wolf was scary. Not only because of the way he acted but also because he invaded their home (where kids should feel safe, right?).
I didn't have nightmares but I also found the story to be more terrifying than little red riding hood.
“ I wonder what illness cake and wine fix”
Depression
true
Preach
Hunger...👀🤪
🍰+🍷= diabetes
I heard it fixes homosexuality
what does cake and wine solve?
*EVERYTHING*
Wine. It solves problems. It also causes them.
@@dbxvhero9006 Here's to alcohol: the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.
The fact that in all the older versions of this story has the creature thing telling the little girl to take off all of her clothes makes me wonder if the writers had witnessed something like it before and didn't want other children to go through that and wrote the stories with those elements in them.
Thinking tgat this story was about stranger danger i starts to make more sure
I’m guessing yeah they probably heard news about it since their have been pedo men for a long time like when the Greeks still ruled and had “gods”. Sad though but it’s good they made it a book for children can learn to not talk to strangers. I as a kid was scared from this book and learned to not talk to strangers so I’m hoping other kids even hundreds of years ago also learned the same 👍
"Do I find you here old sinner?I have long sought you."
Best quote of the year 😏
Ikr! That's a pretty badass quote~ :D
Me just here laughing my ass off
This is way more better than "Somebody stole my spaghett".
Dude that line gave me chills, haha. Makes me think the hunter had some history with that wolf. I've also heard versions where instead of a hunter rescuing Little Red Riding Hood and her grandma, it's a woodsman with an axe. Same difference I guess. XD
@@RainbowEssence-c3w I agree,I was wondering if the hunter had been after that wolf for years.Really that Jon Solo was going to get into that too but I guess not.Leave it to theories I assume
My Dad told me LRRH almost every night when I was little.
When he was talking about the wolf putting on Grandma's nightcap, night gown and slippers, I shouted:
"AND HE PUT ON GRANDMA'S UNDIES!"
Truly a child of Australia
💀-
Hello fellow Australian.
Q2
Back in the middle ages outlaws were called wolves and the story, regardless of origin, was used as an allegory to avoid potential sexual predation.
Perrault was also targeting young aristocratic woman as he realized a lot of lords were taking advantage on them.
The term “slut” means something very different today.
Originally, it was a derogatory term often assigned to kitchen maids if they were not immaculate in appearance or hyper vigilant regarding cleanliness and hygiene.
In the early 1400s, when slut first appeared in English, it meant roughly what one sense of slattern means today: a slovenly, untidy woman or girl.
It also simply meant PIG.
Never knew that!
Please do the Messed Up Origins of the following:
Hansel and Gretel
Frozen
The Lion King
The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride
The Sword in the Stone
Chicken Little
Mickey and the Beanstalk
The Steadfast Tin Soldier (from Fantasia 2000)
The Ugly Duckling
Babes in the Woods
The Grasshopper and the Ants
The Wise Little Hen
The Tortoise and the Hare
The Big Bad Wolf
Music Land
The Goddess of Spring
Brave Little Tailor
Yves Forbes Flores umm Lion King 2 isn’t based on a story
@@donuttheturtle2.070 The Lion King 2 is based off of Romeo and Juliet.
No.
@@danielledonohue8226 The storyline of The Lion King 2 is inspired by Romeo and Juliet because Simba and Nala's daughter, Kiara secretly falls in love with Kovu, a male rogue lion from a banished pride that was once loyal to Simba's evil uncle, Scar but Simba disapproves of their love.
Lion king is just hamlet with furries, prove me wrong.
One of my college professors, while talking about old tales, told us Red Riding Hood was a metaphor for puberty. The girl is no longer doing what her mom says and wants to be independent. My professor also said that in one version of the tale (i can't remember which) she rips some pieces of her hood by accident while she's in the forest and that that simbolizes her having her first period? I'm not sure if this is true but I found it interesting.
My Psychology professor said kinda the same thing. " Little Red Cap's " red cap was menstruation. The wolf swallowing the grandmother whole symbolized the desire for men to understand and imitate the power of pregnancy and childbirth that only women have. Which means that the woodcutter did the wolf a favor by performing a c-section.
Thank you, I knew I heard this interpretation before. I've heard that "Red Riding Hood" can be seen as meaning the breaking of the hymen (pardon the graphic nature) or the first menstrual cycle. I apprecaite your saying here before me so I know I'm not imagining it.
@@reimourrpower9357 what do you think about The Messed Up Origins Of Street Fighter or Dragon Ball
@@DougRayPhillips Sounds like college professors are creepy. I'd stay away from them too.
@@DougRayPhillips so the wolf is somewhat of an AGP. And a gerontophile/paedophile.
In the brother grimms version the wolf didnt wear the grandmas Nighty (gown pajama whatever you call it) he.....he wore her skin.........
Wait I thought he did that in the oldest version of the story?
this has permanently scarred me
Oh....oh my God....
If he wore her skin, is she just skinless when the guy cuts open the wolf's stomach?
I was trying to remember in which version this happened XD
The reason to take of their clothes?
No, the wolf isn’t a perv. Eating clothing must suck.
That’s actually what I’ve always thought. I mean, no one eats the wrapper of a candy bar.
and nobody eats unpeeled bananas
@@MegaKazooRider Unfortunately, I have a friend who could prove otherwise 😅
@@RiskoPlexus Ewwwww 😝
@@RiskoPlexus when your friend is the weird one:
Cake and wine is the soccer mom's cure for everything
and xanax :\
Mollie That was a very soccer mom thing to say
Hahahahah true
no she was just French
I don't think this is a dark tale, its more like a cautionary tale that teaches children that they should be aware of strangers and not to divulge personal information. Children are easily trusting and believe anything that any adult says, since they're gullible they usually fall for anything that any random adult on the street tells them and it at times leads them to harm or in the worst case death. I think this is a really old stranger danger tale to protect children from the ones who might do them harm.
Travis Fisher simply put, this is basically a guide to avoiding rape or premarital sex.
Yep, as a kid, my Mum read me the story and used the opportunity to explain that it meant that children shouldn't talk to strangers/go off with them. Really old story but the message still holds true.
+Travis Fisher None of that makes it not Dark. It’s dark as fuck. How many of today’s cautionary tales involve a little girl eating her grandmother’s flesh? You must be blurry on the term Dark.
More specifically, it was supposed to caution girls against sexual predators.
Just because there is a valuable lesson doesn't mean that the story isn't dark. If anything, it is more effective because of how dark it is.
I'm a little amazed by how pervy these writers made these wolves.
They made it like that as a warning to young women back then.
Charles Perrault made his version as a cautionary tale to noble women to not trust strange men.
@@Used_to_be_valkov So you're trying to say women can't be pervs?
@@bentaplayz9100 all humanity can be pervs but femminists says that women are "incorrupted".
@@bentaplayz9100 Works for me................
I could be wrong by magic back in those days it was a thing😢
"Especially attractive, well-bred young ladies"
Um, what the fook?
Upper class, basically. This is a really old story remember.
No one cared back then about whoring wenches. ;)
Thats what men used to be like
wat da fuq bro , dat is cursedddd
@@madisondameron142used to? 😭 a lot still are unfortunately
Red:what big teeth you have....
Wolf: You need glasses.
LOL, this made me laugh. XD
glasses ? i think i'm going to need a *LAWYER!*
do you get that reference ?
it's an old show, so you most likely not
lol
@@atmo-sphere6799 no
@@theworldoverheavan560
The Wolf is my favorite character I see him as a more misunderstood character. He's always been my favorite I love Wolves.
Um...the original version seems so messed up!
Wolf: Take off your clothes and get into bed with me
Riding Hood: Grandma! What a big...wait...you aren't supposed to have--
*FBI barges in and arrests the wolf*
It's a good thing they had him on their "watch" list.
FBI OPEN UP
Im literally crying, I can just imagine Chris Hansen and dateline walking in
lol
U wana hear a thingie even more messed up? How abut the big bad wolf raped little red riding hood in a creepy version?
In certain parts of the world "wolf" is a metaphor for a horny man, and "eating" a girl / woman implies having sex with her.
Do not put your faith
In a cape and a hood
They will not protect you
The way that they should
And take extra care with strangers
Even flowers have their dangers
And though scary is exciting
Nice is different than good
Now I know
Don't be scared
Granny is right
Just be prepared
Isn't it nice to know a lot
And a little bit not
Mother said, straight ahead
Not to delay or be mislead
I should have heeded her advice
But he seemed so nice
And he showed me things, many beautiful things
That I hadn't thought to explore
They were off my path, so I never had dared
I had been so careful, I never had cared
And he made me feel excited
Well, excited and scared
When he said come in with that sickening grin
How could I know what was in store
Once his teeth were bare, though I really got scared
Well, excited and scared
But he drew me close and he swallowed me down
Down a dark, slimy path
Where lie secrets that I never want to know
And when everything familiar seemed to disappear forever
At the end of the path was Granny once again
So we lay in the dark, 'til you came and set us free
And you brought us to the light
And we're back at the start
And I know things now, many valuable things
That I hadn't known before
Do not put your faith in a cape and a hood
They will not protect you the way that they should
And take extra care with strangers
Even flowers have their dangers
And though scary is exciting
Nice is different than good
Now I know, don't be scared
Granny's right, just be prepared
Isn't it nice to know a lot
And a little bit...
NOT.
Wow...... just wow...I think I like poetry now
@@ApplePi3.1415 it's a song
INTO THE WOODS
tops on remembering the who thing
Trin&EL it’s a song from into the woods but yeah I guess it is poetry..
I remember hearing a story about a mother sheep who's babies were eaten by a hungry wolf. Similar to little red story, the mother cuts the wolf open, saves her babies, fills the wolf with rocks, and leaves him to drown in a river. There was a short Japanese film called "My Little Lamb" that's based off the story...Which may or may not be more disturbing than the tale itself.
It’s an oddly beautiful movie, though
@@batsnghostz Agreed, it's a very intense and emotional story that comes with a happy ending.
One thing to consider about why the False Grandmother is horrific, is that this fable came out during the rise and rule of the Roman Catholic Church. And the Wolf having Red eating the body of her Grandmother and drinking the blood is meant to be a perversion of Communion. Thus damning the child.
Wow. thanks for pointing that out that's really interesting
That makes sense as to why the cat called her a slut
Oh great, another illuminated who hates the Catholic church, ans sees things that aren't there. I suppose you also believe reptilians are among us...
@@msinvincible2000 Triggered Catholic Alert
Very interesting, but why would the girl escape at the end? If she was damned, wouldn't she have perished at the end of the fable?
I actually learned about the canabilism thing from the original story during a history class. The strange things you can learn during history are endless.
I first heard it in one of the Sandman comics by Neil Gaiman. Apparently Neil knows his stuff.
Hey Jon solo I think I know why the French version of the story is so dark . At the time France was plagued with wolf attacks with several werewolf like creatures nicknamed the Beast of Gavouden having killed several young women the first recorded victim being a girl returning through the forest from the market. In fact the next victim was also a girl but she survived because she wore a hooded cape which while turned red from blood keep the wolf from seriously damaging her neck and the Beast was chased off by the other shepherds which had the cows they were herding stampede scaring it off . Crazy right.
The first "victimn" of the beast was a girl tending to her cattle, she saw the beast run towards her, however, the bulls in the herd charged the beast keeping it at bay. They then drove it off after it attacked a second time, the first official victim of the beast was the 14-year-old Janne Boulet, who was killed near the village of Les Hubacs near the town of Langogne.
The story I grew up hearing had a few differences from the “most modern” version (the Grimm one). The big difference it’s that Red took a short cut instead of the safe road and met the Wolf, told him where her Grandma lived and the Wolf got there faster than the little girl. He never strained her from her path, but she went to the smaller road ‘cause she didn’t want to take long, even if her mother told her to take the longer road
"I have no idea what kind of diets these people were on, but I know why they're life spans we're so short." He says all subtle, like it's not a hallarius joke about the 16th century
16th century has ended in the year 1600.
Not related but your skin is literally glowing. What's your skincare routine bruh?
I realize I'm not him, but daily exfoliation works wonders. (After-shave lotion is the best lotion to use on a face because it's too thin to clog pores.)
But isn't daily exfoliation said to be too much? I recently started washing my face once a day with soap and in the morning with just water instead of both times with soap and i noticed almost immediately that my skin was less irritated, my most stubborn acne calmed down and I believe I'm getting less sebum production but that could be as a result of the cooler weather.
I exfoliate when I shower
So… once a day. Which is said to be too much…
Filters are great skincare.
I always interpreted this story as a story for young women to beware of rapists.
That’s exactly what it’s about.
True
My mother always insisted it was a metaphor for rape
And serial killers.
“Take off you clothes and join me in bed”
**FBI breaks down door*
I mean, the story is literaly about stranger danger.
🤯
The story, as we have heard it and seen it in pictures and movies as kids, is about a little girl (you say she's about 7 years old). The original story never specifies her age. In the Austrian psychologist Bruno Bettelheim's interesting analyzes of the story he is talking about a pubertal girl. He says that the story (obviously) tells us about a girl facing the dangerous world outside home. In his analyzes the red hood symbolizes her first period (his words, not mine). There are two kinds of men, so to speak, the wolf and the hunter. And the young girl must learn how to identify them.
It is not a coincidence that the hunter calls the wolf "old sinner", he is depicted as THE sinner in the world of young girls. The symbolism in the end is that Little Red Riding Hood is reborn from the belly of the wolf, with new knowledge and more mature now than before. According to this analyzes it is not so strange anymore that the wolf in the various versions tries to undress and bed the girl. That is actually what it's all about. And you also need to understand that it was no specific differences between stories for kids and adults during those days. Many of the classic stories were told both for children and the rest of the family at the same time. And, yes, they were cruel and horrifying and not yet as “correct” as modern fairy tales.
:)
So...its a 14 year old girl,
Going through puberty...
And she went on a errand...
She got Violated,raped...
And ultimately killed...
God,why is everything so f-ed up
@@tetsudikawakami3071 I started my first menstraul cycle at 11
I think the old ones were more sexual than scary lol
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True and (smoker voice) hey kid do you whant to see somthing
The wolf is used as a metaphor for a transient pedophile.
That's what makes it scary.
True
Hansel and Gretel next?
NoneThe Less YESSSSS
NoneThe Less It's one of my childhood stories
Agreed. Tell me about kids eating houses!
Oh yes you smart person!
I hope so!
What if there never was a wolf, she just pictured it from the trauma so it was her grandma who was the actually the ‘predator’
don't think anyone has thought of that food for thought
I thought of a grandpa
@@ivettegutierreztorres4272 The Wolf is really the grandfather interesting
Thats crazy my minds blown :0!
Interesting perspective!
What I think about this story: This is a warning to young girls about soft spoken and cunning men that will eliminate their older more wise females from the picture to con the sweet lass into well ...you get the point. Its a predator warning.
Maybe when the wolf dresses as a the grandma it represents that predators can pretend to be someone trustworthy and nice, like a grandmother (most grandmothers)
Makes sense
@@shea2111 Nah that would be boring. :D I like to elaborate beyond simple statements.
That, too. But I don't think the moral of this story is that specific. It's a general warning for children against any adult who could hurt and abuse them in any way or even kill them. A warning not to reveal too much information to them, and preferably not to talk to them at all. Making the antagonist a wolf and him eating people is a bonus warning against wild animals in the woods (I'm not saying it was as important as the warning against people but still worth noting).
“While impersonating grandma, he tells her to put the food on the stool, take off her clothes and-“
[B]FBI OPEN UP!!!!!!
😂
I keep reading impregnating instead of impersonating.
*hold up-*
@@ManiacalBlueberry what do you think about The Messed Up Origins of Street Fighter or Dragon Ball
One thing I feel you missed in the second story is that the moral is for young women to avoid charming men who will try to seduce them. At a time when a woman's virginity was her most valuable asset, that was a serious danger.
@Mark G The author's comment talks about attractive women being wary of "wolves" who are charming.
The original version alludes to sexual predators is ones own family. One interpretation of the “wolf” in the original Grandmothers Tale is that the “wolf” is the girls grandfather
@Mark G every version I've heard alludes to sexuality. It's subtle in some, but some have the little girl get naked with a wolf or frolick around with an anatomically correct wolf(aka the play version of Into the Woods.) Change the context of what the wolf is saying or look at what wolves symbolize and you get the picture.
+songofafreeheart I never thought of her as anything but a little girl, so that never crossed my mind. I took it more as a tale for all kids to not blindly trust all adults and other similar meanings. I also never thought of the wolf as a man, bc he’s a wolf, and mainly bc he’s impersonating her grandmother. I mean, she’s so close to believing it definitely is her grandmother, that she eats a piece of meat it gives her, which turns out to be grandma flesh. I’m glad I never knew that part as a kid. I wonder what their original idea was for the overall takeaway? You definitely could be right, I just always assume she buys the wolf as her grandma bc all children fall for every ridiculous thing in these stories.
For my high school drama class, we had to write short plays that were reinvented fairy tales. The group who did little red had her as a sorority girl named Rose who meets a charming older man. Despite her friends telling her "let's just go home, come on, we don't trust this guy", she decides that she wants to have some fun and go get a drink with the man. He ushers her away and into a dark alley after the friends leave, the lights went out and she screamed. The lights come back on and it is the next day, her friends are looking for her and they see the man. They ask what happened to Rose, and he sort of chuckles and says "oh, you won't be hearing from that pretty thing anymore".
It is not clear if he raped her or killed her or both, but most versions of the story do have rapey and even pedophile tones.
Was i the only one who thought dirty when he said "nut trees"
My innocence is non-existent😔😔😔
No but now I am
me
I didn't understand 😂😂😂
this story is literally a metaphor for child r*pe and that’s what you thought was dirty
I love learning about the origins of my favorite stories
Brianna Ervin same
There is another Chinese version of this story. The mother leaves to visit grandma and leaves her three children home. A wolf tried to trick them. They pulled him up into a tree to get berries but they keep dropping him over and over again until he dies.
Sakura Destiny I KNOW THAT ONE...I THINK...WHAT WAS THE TITLE AGAIN?
it doesnt sound like the same story ?
Jug-A-Nuts Lon Po Po
Lon po po!
@Aless. Lom. I do.
That Little girl ran All the way home nekkid in the oldest one
I would too if I was running from that
That was all I thought about until the end of the video. But, hey, Desperate times calls for desperate measures.
I think some people doing laundry in a river helped her cross too in some other versions. They tie their sheets together but when the wolf wants to cross, they untie it and he gets swept away and drowns.
Some predator :( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
1:40 It’s always about a little girl bringing food to her grandma and finding a monster in her place
Wolf: I’m I a joke to you?
Yes
“Take off your clothes”
*searches up red riding hoods age on google*
FBI OPEN UP
Apparently she is 8 . _ .
I thought in the original she was a teen
Shes like a few hundred years old at this point
*hold up-*
@@FKMDC weebs: be like she's a loli waifu
Normal people: hell is a big place and I think it's not crowded enough...
Cake is just what they used to call different types of bread.
Maybe the grandma was poor and starving
I actually argued that this morning...back in those times cake wasnt the sweet treat that we got on birthdays...sugar and cocoa wasnt yet in europe...it was the residue left on the pan after the bread was removed after baking...so when Marie Antwonette said...let them eat cake...it angered the people who actually had to scrape that off to have something to eat...
@@deadendkid1968 what do you think about The Messed Up Origins Of Monster in my pocket
@@deadendkid1968 Omg thank you for that knowledge it all makes sense now
@@madisondameron142 what do you think about The Messed Up Origins of Pokemon, Digimon or Yo Kai Watch
I was scared you were going to say the wolf raped her or something when he told her to take off her clothes and go into bed with her 🤮😖.
Well lets say that he "eating her" stands for that... so yeah 😥
That's what being "eaten" is a metaphor for. I'm not even joking, Little Red Riding Hood is about sex, that is literally what it's about, I studied fairy tales in college. So yeah, he did.
She was raped. The story is about a sex offender. The “Wolf” is the sex offender and Grandma and Red were victims.
@@bellaelleira and the "tail" was actually his pen15
The story has multiple meanings and lessons. being “eaten” is also an allegory for rape, losing ones “virtue,” being led astray, etc.
I always used to think as a kid hearing the story, ‘Why does the wolf have to spend all that time dressing up pretending to be someone so she trusts it, why doesn’t it just eat her?!..’
I always thought, when hearing the story that the wolf was a werewolf.
Kudos to Perrault for trying to warn young ladies, in the most subtle possible way, about the wolf that is man (Maybe that is where the belief in werewolves *really* gets it's origin).
ALSO SHE RUNS HOME NAKED IN THE LAST ONE???
Nehan Khan dame thing I was thinking like wtf
Ayy true 😂
That's what usually happens in real life so next time you see a naked lady running home you should offer to help instead of shaming her or looking down upon her
@@sarahglover4241 exactly but you can't tell them that
Who shames or looks down upon someone who's running naked....
Damn! She ate her grandma, I was not expecting that. (Lol after I typed that in my head I heard Tamatoa from Moana saying “I ate my grandma!”)
Lol same here. 🤣
Lol I BEST. COMMENT. EVER.
Ok we are now freinds
Oh my God that's amazing
And it took me a while because she was massive
" I wonder what illnesses can be remedied by eating cake and drinking wine... "
...Depression..? ^^;
AAHHH a new episode! and a good one! thank you Jon!
Yay!! My daughter's birthday is Oct. 23rd!!👍
thank YOU for watching, friend!!
Damn I think my grandma would even be sicker with cake and wine LOL! But wow I never knew that there's an even older version than Perrault! I knew Perrault's, but not the older one
I didn't even know stories were historically preserved from that far back, jesus christ shits older than the dark ages.
Maybe grandma has heart break then cake and wine will help
@@blessedcocoa5729 Meanwhile my grandpa made fortified wine that he'd serve mixed with tea to anyone who he even THOUGHT was sick. Didn't cure a thing... except sobriety.
Well believe it or not red wine is actually good for your heart and if you have low blood sugar lemon cake back then will actually raise it up and stable it
After watching all this versions, the the fact this were meant for specially beautiul young girls... The the fact the wolf makes the girl strip and get in bed with him, for eating her, seems like a metaphore for the girl getting raped by an evil wolf (an evil man). So it seems like a warning for them at the time. The worst part is, this still happends in the real world.
Also the tail between his legs
@@tararaw8518 lol
Nah ugly girls get raped, the warning is not to be stupid which sadly also happens in the real world, which you have proven.
I like the" Once Upon of Time" version . Red was the wolf. Grandma made the hood to kept her from transforming into the wolf on a full-moon
or they just didn't have the budget for a cgi wolf
I have never heard of this version is it a book or movie?
@@christianweibrecht6555 its a drama series 'Once Upon A Time'
It kinda reminds me of Ever after high. Where in that show cerise the daughter of little red riding hood was also the wolf but it's was because her father was the big bad wolf and she had wolf ears which she hide with her hood as to keep her family secret safe.
Happy (early) birthday Jon! You're right, great men are born on October 23rd because that's also my brother's bday. 😁
I've been waiting so long for you to cover the story of Little Red because it definitely fits into the category of messed up origins- and then some! I was in 11th grade when I had to write an essay on the Perrault version and compare it to other renditions and modern day conceptions as well. It was interesting to study, but man did it make my stomach churn!
I actually remember learning about the origin of Little Red drinking her grandma's blood. I saw one of the special features on the Sweeney Todd DVD where they went over the origins of Sweeney himself, respectfully. They talked about how Sweeney Todd was told as a common bedtime story, and while that may be odd by today's standards, they also mentioned the other morbid tales told to children (such as that particular rendition of Little Red) which were intended to keep them on the straight and narrow path.
Chilling and interesting stuff, ain't it? Can't wait to see what you have in store throughout the rest of October!
There's a game called Overlord: Dark Legend, that's part of a series of Overlord games, where they also take the Little Red Riding Hood story and put a twist on it. in the game you keep expecting the Big Bad Wolf to attack Little Red while you escort her to her grandmother's house. but the big plot twist is that Little Red is actually a Werewolf and you kill her in a boss battle. in my opinion I thought this was kinda a neat twist, combining both characters together making the hero of the story secretly the villain. but that's just my opinion
superzilla784 sounds like the version of red riding hood in Once Upon A Time
I was going to say the same.
11:14 If I recall correctly, at that time "slut" didn't necessarily have sexual connotations, it simply meant a dirty, tainted, or unclean woman.
12:17 monster: “the better to eat you with” *just staring at her*
Red Riding Hood: *staring awkwardly back*
*DEAD SILENCE*
Wolf: *-just get in the bed-*
Red pulls a .357 magnum out of her basket. *BLAM!*
мαяνєlουѕ ㇱ Red: *-guess it’ll be good practice-* 😏
Red slumps back into the bed slowly suddenly anxious and looks up at the ceiling; an 'oh' of realization forming on her lips as she nods awkwardly letting out a small 'ok' processing the mentaly scarring sentence she just heard....
**SPRINTS**
@@LarryH54 As a Jupiterian, We are given another version in which she brings out a Laser nukes the grandmother out of existence. Very co story
I just wanted too say, I appreciate all the research you do. And how much time you put in these video’s. Just for our entertainment!
thank you SO much! I'll keep this comment in mind next time I'm up to my ears in hundred year old literature!
@@JonSolo it would be easier to just read the Time/Life series of books on this subject...they did a series on the paranormal...with one volume being on these fairy tales and the orgins...
This is my favorite fairy tale...the dark versions
🙄
Fun fact: the word "slut" was a term originally used to call someone "filthy" and this term was used for men and women.
Well I just learned something. Interesting
23rd October is my birthday too! Also, I looked up the paper and the Aesop's tale that is supposed to be similar to Red Riding hood is this one - Mother Goat was going to market one morning to get provisions for her household, which consisted of but one little Kid and herself.
“Take good care of the house, my son,” she said to the Kid, as she carefully latched the door. “Do not let anyone in, unless he gives you this password: ‘Down with the Wolf and all his race!'”
Strangely enough, a Wolf was lurking near and heard what the Goat had said. So, as soon as Mother Goat was out of sight, up he trotted to the door and knocked.
“Down with the Wolf and all his race,” said the Wolf softly.
It was the right password, but when the Kid peeped through a crack in the door and saw the shadowy figure outside, he did not feel at all easy.
“Show me a white paw,” he said, “or I won’t let you in.”
A white paw, of course, is a feature few Wolves can show, and so Master Wolf had to go away as hungry as he had come.
“You can never be too sure,” said the Kid, when he saw the Wolf making off to the woods.
Moral
Two sureties are better than one.
Actually, I think what you are describing is a tale by Aesop that inspired another Grimm story; the Wolf and the Seven Young Goats. Not sure how famous this story is worldwide but where I am from (the Netherlands) it is just as well-known as Little Red Riding Hood.
In the story, 7 little goats are left alone by their mother who goes grocery shopping, when a wolf shops up at the door. He pretends to be their mother but the goats hear a gruff voice instead so they don't fall for his tricks. The wolf eats some honey to soften his voice and he tries again, but the goats see his black paw through the window, so no luck this time either. So, the wolf uses flour to make his paw white and tries a third time, and this time the goats believe it is their mother and let him in. He eats six of the goats except for the smallest one, who hides in a big grandfather clock. The wolf goes to sleep and when mother returns, the little goat jumps out, tells her what happened and together they rescue the other goats by cutting open his belly and replacing the goats with big rocks (much the same as the ending to Little Red Riding Hood). The wolf goes to the river to drink some water, but because of the weight of the rocks, falls in and drowns.
Since you mentioned the white paw and the mother goat I am inclined to believe that Aesops story was actually the inspiration for this Grimm story, rather than LRRH, although they are both awesome stories :)
@@Elizadebeste6 I agree that it doesn't seem particularly similar but it was what was cited by the author of the paper :)
@@CathySW aaahh cool! Great to hear Aesop inspired so many different stories then :D
Mine was the 22nd
This is so not the same story.
To answer your question at 2:27 Jon, heartbreak can be cured with cake and a bottle of wine 😭🤣
Brothers Grimm is usually pretty dark
Jeremy Brooks ya and theres was the lest F up of them all.
Jon: I'm curious what illness cake and wine can cure
...must be a nice easy life you lead lol
"Take off you clothes and get in bed."
I've read enough hentai to know where this is going.
*FBI open up*
you don't even need to read it to have an idea of where its going lmfao
@@louise4152 what do you think about The Messed Up Origins Of Yo Kai Watch
@@tijanamilenkovic3425 wh
@GETTHEHELLOUTTAMYLAWN cuz its a turn on for some people. Duh. That's why it exists in the first place
OK internet...thats enough of you today.
I think the most disturbing part was that she didn't question being told to get naked. I would run.
She may have believed that grandma needed warming up. Skin to skin contact IS the cure for hypothermia. In those days, it may not have been an unusual request/command for children.
Was she naked though? She took off her clothes, but that could mean her outer layer and still could be wearing her undergarments, which back then would've been like pajamas.
sadly, kids don't realize these things. plus she thought she could trust her "grandma"
Kids back then weren't allowed to question "authority figures" I think that's why
Well she was an innocent person
Mom: Honey, where are your clothes?
Girl: I went to grandmas house and there was a wolf there pretending to be her! He almost ate me but I got away. The meal he prepared wasn't good either. The wine tasted like metal!
Mom:...Fine if you're not gonna tell me you can go straight to bed! We're going back to grandmas first thing in the morning!
did she uh run back home naked?
Depression. Depression can helped by cake and a bottle of wine. Stress is also a good answer
The sickness her grandmother was trying to cure with cake and wine ? That’s depression 😂.... sweets plus alcohol is a remedy for either depression or heart break and unless grandpa just died I doubt it’s heartbreak.... 😂😂😂
That third story was REALLY messed up
Family Guy episode Grimm Job:
Lois: "Remember: stay on the path and you'll be fine."
Stewie: "Yeah, that's great advice coming from Mother of the Year. You do realize Grandma lives 68 miles away, right? You're sending your child out there to die."
what struck me as just wtf in the older versions is the girl actually stripping, what little girl thinks "oh grandma wants me to strip and get in bed, ok not weird at all" that just made no sense and the little girl never really questioned it in any version that has her strip. even her eating her grandma's flesh didn't bother me as much strangely but in truth, she never knew and thought it was just some food and wine, but she knew what stripping was.so it kinda disturbed me how fine she was with stripping and getting in bed with her grandma.
It did make sense to her, the same way someone who is being abused knows it's strange but goes about it because they are confused
What if living in the middle of the woods means you don't have access to information on actual predators. I assume the mom tells her kid "watch out for that shortcut" and not "watch out for that rapist". Red probably didn't even think it was wrong because her little mind is so innocent!
@@Eyezpopmusic or because the person who is telling them to do it is a trusted adult who should know better!
@@Eyezpopmusic exactly and before he even gets into all the morbid details, he informs us she is super young to the point where she is completely innocent and doesn't understand, kids are smart, but sometimes what you would typically think a child would think was strange as anyone else would if they were asked, it would go way over their head, especially when it's coming from someone they think they can trust, in this case her gran
Yeah, that part was... ew. But, you gotta remember, back then sleeping in the same bed as your grandmother or another relative was fairly common. As for the stripping part... I got nothing. Maybe someone better versed in history can explain that one to me. Idk, people were messed up back the and for some reason nudeness wasn't seen as sexual as it is today, lol. Besides all that, as others have said, Red was a little girl who didn't know any better and her grandmother was kind of an authority figure so she just did what she was told. Even today, small children will usually do whatever an adult, especially a relative, tells them to do, simply because they are an "authority figure".
CONSPIRACY THEORY!! The Little Red Riding Hood's wolf and the Three Little Piggies' wolf is the SAME WOLF. No but seriously, what kind of wolf has a knack for impersonating people??
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I always thought that that was the case actually
Wolf is just the term used for predators as in bad people who pretend to be good but have bad intentions. That was kinda the kink back in the day authors had, they would write about the problems in society through children's stories. If u think of all the characters as people you'll get what the story actually says.
And the same wolf as in 'the wolf and the 7 little goats' indeed.
You missed Roald Dahl's version. She whips her pistol out and shoots the wolf dead immediately in that one. :)
Based Star spangled Riding Hood.
@@thetechnocrat4979
Little Red White and Blue
He had a version of this!? All I read from him was boy: tales of childhood
@@ClaraWalksHome-254 Roald Dahl's Revolting Rhymes
Wolf: breaks into grandmas house to kill her
Also wolf: Little riding hood made it home? No can't kill her
As a kid I always found little red riding hood’s story interesting. When the local high school did “Into the woods,” she began my first dream role. Like I identified with her so well. I’ve seen a lot of artwork with her looking similar to me. My grandmother was sexually and emotionally abusive. I think looking back I identified with her, and just didn’t know it yet.
"Großmutter, warum hast du so große Ohren?"
- "Damit ich dich besser hören kann"
"Großmutter, warum hast so große Augen?"
- "Damit ich dich besser sehen kann."
"Aber Großmutter, warum hast du so ein schrecklich großes Maul?"
- "DAMIT ICH DICH BESSER FRESSEN KANN!"
Diese Konversation hab ich nie vergessen ^^
Grobutter. Defugkrlp
I remember first hearing this story when I was like 4
I thought the wolf was a nice puppy dog
Then he ate grandma
And I was scarred for life
That last poster looks awesome. But the 2nd to last poster looks awesome in a different jolly way.
Little Red Riddin' Hood - "What that mouth do?"
*Gets gobbled up
"Some girl who can't tell the difference between a wolf and her grandmother must either have been as dense as teak or come from an extremely ugly family."
as dense as a harem protagonist
@@seldomstudios6351 OMG XD
Can you do a video on Bluebeard or The Bloody Chamber? Awesome vid
1:25 Woah! I appreciate you included that kind of Little Red Riding Hood from Disney Silly Symphonies.
I always was told the grimms version as a kid.
Boba Fett Jay C same here dude
Same
OMG! " Take off your clothes and get into bed with me" that is so messed up!
Google: Red riding hood is 8 years old
*law and order song start playing*
I’m amazed how you went over the origins of Little Red Riding Hood and didn’t get demonetized honestly. You somehow managed to delicately and unobviously say that the whole moral was about childhood sexual assault