Who Chose the Books of the Bible?
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- You’re in a conversation and someone asks, “Who chose which books should be in the Bible? And what about the books that were left out?"
What would you say?
The Bible is a collection of many different writings that were written at different points in history. So how did we get this particular set of books?
The next time someone asks how the books of the Bible were chosen, here are 3 things to remember:
First, early faith communities accepted the texts that became the Bible because they understood that God was their ultimate author.
Second, the decision to recognize a text as scripture was based upon multiple factors.
Third, books that didn’t measure up were rejected because they didn’t meet the criteria.
Thank you to Dr. Steven Sanchez for his contributions to this video.
Sources and Further Reading:
“In Defense of the Bible: A Comprehensive Apologetic for the Authority of Scripture” edited by Steven B. Cowan and Terry L. Wilder
“Journey from Texts to Translations: The Origin and Development of the Bible” by Paul D. Wegner
“Myths and Mistakes in New Testament Textual Criticism” edited by Peter J. Gurry and Elijah Hixson
“Can We Trust the Gospels?” by Peter J. Williams
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This is informational yet vague or evasive. What Christians particularly? What Church or faith were these men from? What was the "standard" specifically? The scriptures were written by Prophets, Apostles & Disciples who were over taken by the Holy Spirit & The Word of God. How can we know the condition of these men from these various councils to trust what books they selected? Were they the Scribes & Pharisees of their time bearing the same spirit as those who crucified our Lord. Were they Roman Catholic who worship Mary, steeped in graven images and guilty of changing Gods times, seasons and sabbath? Who is worthy to say what is inspired by God and what is not but those possessed by the Holy Spirit, His power & His Word (The Prophets)? Who were these men & what were their standards???
Christians and politicians both have a similar method of answering questions.. they pretty much dive into big explanations, steer the topic in repetitive circles and never really answer the question
So which Church at that time had the authority to accept which books were ligit and not? How can we trust what they chose? Was it really Criteria or was it Authority?
You should be asking how can we know that the Gospels are written by the Apostels,since when the bible was compiled there were no originals. Earliest text they had was written in 200 AD.
Emperor Constantine was the authority at the Council of Nicaea, the Bible was assembled at his will.
@aventura4211 nope, that nonsense was spouted by the Spanish fraud artist Alberto Rivera.
The Nicea Council was called to settle a heresy denying Jesus's divinity. They didn't discuss canon Scripture.
In the AD 360s the most respected and learned theologian of the time was Athanasius of Alexandria. He devised a list of four criteria each of the books in use in various dioceses throughout the Empire would have to pass.
In AD 367 he unveiled the 27 books he determined were canon. They are the New Testament we still use. In AD 382 a bishop's council in Rome ratified Athanasius' list. Bishop's council's in Hippo on AD 393, and in Carthage in AD 397 also ratified the list of canon Scripture.
There was only one, holy, small "c" catholic (meaning universal) Church based on the teachings of Jesus's apostles until the late AD 600s.
Each bishop until AD 400 decided for themselves which books could be used in their dioceses. There was a core of books that were accepted everywhere in the Empire that were most of our current N.T. There were other books some bishops would allow, while other bishops wouldn't.
In the AD 360s the most respected theologian of the day, Athanasius of Alexandria, read through all the various books, grading them with 4 criteria each book would have to pass to be canon.
In AD 367 at Easter he unveiled his list of 27 books that passed all 4 criteria. It was ratified by a bishop's council in Rome in AD 382, one in Hippo in AD 393, and yet another in AD 397 at Carthage. Athanasius's list is our New Testament we still use.
Also worth mentioning that we have multiple letters from the church fathers predating those councils, and direct third-generation disciples-of-disciples of the authors present at the councils, to verify their content and consistency had been transmitted intact, and to verify the consistency of the teachings against.
Psalm 68:11
The Lord gave the word;
Great was the [a]company of those who proclaimed it:
This is so great!
These videos always are! They're so well-thought-out and studied. They are truly a blessing.
It is the question of authority , many writings appear before the cannons was close it create confusion, the lack of clarity which one is authoritative and not. That was the purpose of the council anyway to end the question of canonicity. The Catholic Church convene under the leadership of the Pope and decide what is inspired. The Catholic Church decide the set of standard criteria on what is to include in the bible or not. In 382 under the leadership of Pope Damasus decide that the 73 books are scriptural.
Please do you have any link I could visit to read more about what you said?
@@israelirie1187 their are many links ang historical facts about this very easy you can search internet
Hey Dr Sanchez! Good job!
Excellent!!
Great summary video of a complex yet understandable subject. In essence, the Church (in practice and in councils) acted as a thermometer to measure the books to be included in the New covenant canon, rather than as a thermostat, determining by fiat which books should be included or not. Important distinction and a foundational point for the reality and practical truthfulness of Covenant Theology in all of Scripture.
There are some issues here, especially with the third point since it doesn't address who rejected the books accepted in the Catholic Bible like Tobit. This video presupposes that the protestant bible is the correct bible, but that's not historical accurate considering that the Catholic Bible cannon was set before there even was a protestant bible or protestant denominations for that matter. Also, there were many different Jewish sects that accepted differing old testament cannons of scripture, so pointing to one Jewish scholar to determine the cannon which was still in contention even within the Jewish community doesn't prove that the Pharisee's Torah cannon or the protestant old testament cannon are correct. Plus the very councils they lean on in the earlier portion of the video to define what stands the test as scripture are CATHOLIC councils which this video validates when it helps their position, but then completely ignore the fact that it was Catholic councils that would later set the Catholic Biblical cannon that this video rejects.
-prodistent- *_protestant._* -council's- *_councils_* (ie, the plural for counsil)...
Apocrypha was not recognized are even quoted by Jesus or the apostles. Also, those books have doctrinal, historical and geographical errors which makes them NOT God Inspired. Furthermore, Catholic simply means universal but if you are referring to RCC the Old Testament and the New Testament were compiled way before the apostate church of Rome.
If you told a story in a circle it’d be different when it got back to you so we’re going to believe the story 300 plus years after it truly happened
The Apostles wrote their gospels and letters before they died, and they were carefully copied by scribes all over the Empire. The verbal traditions could be compared with what the Apostles wrote to ensure accuracy.
Good summary. Michael Kruger has a couple of very readable books on how the canon came about.
very interesting, i always wondered how and who chose the books
Human wrote the books and human chose the books
Early forth century Catholic bishops in North Africa.
@@thomism1016 they weren't catholic, catholicism didn't exist
@@thetraditionalist Lol 😂. The Catholic Church reliably traces an unbroken lineage that goes right back to Christ in Matthew 16:18.
@@thomism1016 sure buddy. Keep deluding yourself
Thanks for this !
Very good information.
How did people before the new testiment was completed learn about Jesus?
Apostolic Tradition. The 12 Apostles (Mattias replaced Judas) went out teaching what they had been taught by Jesus. The 12 also trained men to be church leaders to carry on missionary work and be shepherds(bishops) of new churches.
The Apostles wrote their gospels an letters before their deaths, and these were carefully copied by generations of scribes and scholars to be used in church communities and missionaries.
This is actually an interesting course of study.
I'd recommend taking even a basic class on Christianity, just to learn about these things.
Like how when new copies of texts were made, they made sure that everyone of them matched.
By having multiple copies made, examined next to each other & the original, and burned if they had a mistake. (So no one could claim the 'mistake', as the truth.)
Even when they made the original version, I'm fairly sure that they made at least 20 copies... so that no one copy could be considered as superior to the others.
Keep up the great work!
Good info overall, but something was misleading. The ones that that accepted and/or rejected the texts in the Bible were NOT just a bunch of "faith communities." Once Martin Luther revolved, he, a fallen man, created his own Church, the Lutheran Church, without a Devine foundation, which is what brought about the 40K+ current faith communities or Christian denominations, BUT before Martin Luther revolt, there were NOT a bunch of "faith communities" like this video is indicating. There was just ONE "UNIVERSAL" church, the Catholic Church, the ONLY church founded by Jesus Christ 2000+ years ago (you are welcome to google it or you can also ask Siri or Alexa). Therefore, naming a "faith community" as the ones in charge of putting together the Bible is MISLEADING. The one that put together the Bible was the Catholic Church. That is a fact. You are welcome to google it or read the book "The Bilble is a Catholic Book" from Jimmy Akin. The Bible, therefore, was twisted by Martin Luther, who remove 7 books of it, and not necessary the ones from the New Testament, but from the Old Testament. He had too, because he refused to believe a 2000+ teaching of the Church, the Purgatory, and one the ones that he (not divinely inspired) removed was related to the Purgatory so his "new" version of the Bible will match with his twisted mind.
If the Catholic church is the true church a d Martin Luther was wrong,
Why did Martin Luther teach the gospel of the apostles and the Catholic church contradicts the bible and teaches a gospel not similar to the apostles?
Wrong the Catholic baptize bc of Adam and eve's sin, if they put the Bible together they'd no that not a single baby soul was baptized back then lollllllll
the devil tactic since ancient age no change since garden of Eden, take 90% truth add 10% lies to delude people. 😊
Then why and on who's authority did the King James version drop books from the bible? Wouldn't these books already have been accepted as cannon?
A Protestant printing house dropped the Apocrypha for a 1880 reprint KJV. Many denominations have it in their Bibles as a separate section. It isn't considered canon, but still is useful for instruction and learning.
Awesome who you guys ignore the Earlier Council of Rome of 382 which predates both Hyppo and Cartage and is the reason why they even happened. Just for the sake of agenda...
Is it true that non of the original writings exist,
Yes. They were hand written on parchment, which would eventually deteriorate. There are no original documents of any ancient parchment writings, Christian, pagan, or secular.
The Apostle's testimonies, letters, epistles, were carefully hand copied by scribes over the centuries for use in church communities all over the Empire.
Said... "early Christians already inherited old Testament from Jews". Yet. There are different number of books in Hebrew Bible vs Christian Old Testament. How added books?
....and that early Church community is known as the Catholic Church....
Quite right!!!
First Christian’s were Jews, the books are Gods not a church. The Catholic Church is demonized.
this type of explanation would make sense if there were not multiple versions of the bible which include different books. so this explanation does not measure up. if this was true the world would have only one bible with the exact same books inside.
Still didn’t answer who chose books and the why is not explained in depth
The Catholic Church.
They will never tell people WHO,. because the answer is always 'The Catholic Church' they can't admit it because they are Protestant
So we’re supposed to believe the Christians who considered this text as the Bible when back then they believed the earth was flat
No-one at the time believed that. Seafaring cultures like Greeks, Phoenicians, and Carthaginians knew the Earth wasn't flat by 500 BC. A Greek mathematician named Erastothenes calculated the circumference within 1% of the actual circumference in 200 BC.
Why do you not teach the complete truth that the councils were The Katolikos Church. Greek for One and Universal Church established by Jesus. English translation is Catholic. Ignacious of Antioch first used the word Christians as well a Katholikos, Catholic, which was the first Christian Church and will be the last and only infallible Church because it was established by Jesus. Jesus says the Truth will set us free their can ONLY be ONE TRUTH.
Luther caused the big divorce between the groom and the bride church. This caused Christianity to split into 23,000 different "truths" this split was ALL due to Bible Only teaching...so Christians to stop a bleeding nose cut off our head to fix the problem, now we ourselves together have caused Christianity to look like a joke to many because if we are trying to teach Jesus is the Truth The Way and The life, but we consider each other wrong?.. as divorced people we blame each other, we carry, pride in "our" truths, we condemn each other and so people just say I will believe my truth and God will be fine with that. But that's NOT what Jesus says. He wants One truth, HIS TRUTH not "our" truths, not thousands of truths. I pray for unity in One True Church which Jesus established and which Jesus gives authority to Church leaders, priest deacons, bishops and popes to bind and lose. That was how The Holy Living Bible was gifted to the world, through the Catholic authoritative leaders of bishops, priest, pope.
Paul says, The Church is the foundation and the pillar of truth. The Bible are the teachings of Jesus, however, Jesus gives The Church the authority to make the Holy decision on what the bible teaches, what The Katholikos Church calls Dogmas. Without dogmas everyone will interpret the bible 23,000 different ways leading to a great divorce. Which is a terrible sad and sinful act of the entire Christian people. We ourselves have caused our own death of Christianity in our children and throughout the world. We have watered down the importance of a strong strong life full of Christ, prayers, love, and unity. Many think Jesus is merciful and won't keep people from choosing hell, and I'm a good person, and Jesus's message is easy, and that's ALL I need to find salvation. This is a demonic lie, the bible is filled with acts we MUST do to get salvation. One is to obey The Church of Jesus which teaches what the bible teaches and The Church has Jesus's authority. Whatever you bind on earth is bind in heaven, whatever you lose on earth is loosed in heaven. Lead my sheep, feed, my sheep, teach my sheep. As my Father has sent me, says Jesus to Peter, So, Peter I am sending you.
How does The Father sent Jesus? With authority on earth!
My name is Genisis
Is this a protestant point of view?
Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. John 8:34-36
La iglesia católica dijo que libros si
So in short: "People" decided what the "word of God was/is." My question then would be who saw God and described him in the bible. After that why did they make him a different color even after reading his description in the bible? Let me guess those christians actions were notably outside the teachings of christianity. That's the answer I am usually given. I will save you some time and spare you the scripture. Ase'
What a load of crap. As a biblical scholar with an advanced degree on this very topic (MDiv, Ecumenical Studies), I was hoping for a video that would genuinely address the very question it raised in an informative and honest manner. What a disappointment.
Flex those credentials
@@jameybobamey7343 I am simply pointing out I have studied this very issue of how the books of the OT and NT came to be.
@@theoskeptomai2535 and you were hoping for more from a 5 minute animated youtube video?
@@jameybobamey7343 I wasn't expecting lies.
Sometimes you don't even try...
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That's cool that the process started in north africa 😊
Bruh this does make zero sense
"FAITH COMMUNITIES"???!!!..Why don't you say it with it's right name?
It's the Eastern Orthodox Church (Early Church, or Pentarchy, or 5 Patriarches ).
The Councils of 4th to 7th cent of the Eastern Orthodox Church chose the books of the Bible.
Read church history.
@@railroad2258 Orthodoxing on the right faith, what else?
"Orthodox" in Greek means "right/ true, faith/doctrine"
Bible is written in Greeks, right?
So, do you know, 94% of Greeks are Orthodox?
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Catholic Church*
@@cristianocattolico Right. Catholic Church. That Catholic church of 4th century is the Orthodox church of today.
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No
@@cristianocattolico Yes. Same doctrines, same teachings and traditions. Orthodox church is the Apostolic Catholic church.
Your information is generic not specific ......
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