A Theory You've Never Heard Of | Michael Robinson | TEDxUniversityofHartford
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2024
- The Hamitic Hypothesis was a 19th century anthropological theory that claimed that humans originated in Asia and then migrated to other regions of the world. The theory was used to explain the discovery of so-called “white races” in Africa in the late 1800s. The Hamitic Hypothesis was not simply a curiosity of anthropological science. It was an idea that changed lives: from those European colonists who relied upon it to justify their presence in Africa, to the scientists who used it to explain away the accomplishments of African civilizations as a result of “white” influence. Ultimately, the Hamitic Hypothesis anchored a global theory of human origins and migration that, when combined with the Aryan race theory, shaped anthropology, colonial policy, and even the attitudes of Africans themselves for a hundred years.
Michael Robinson is a historian of science and exploration at the University of Hartford. He is the author of "The Coldest Crucible: Arctic Exploration and American Culture." His new book The Lost White Tribe: Explorers, Scientists, and the Theory that Changed a Continent" comes out with Oxford University Press in December.
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This lecture underscores the importance of understanding the past on its own terms instead of projecting modern ideas and attitudes back into the past.
This lecture is lies and agenda.
@@AkakaDomenjer you must not understand scientific theory. Imagine actually using your brain.
@@alexanderrober9587 do you think that’s an intellectual argument lmao, sad
Realyminportant to know what exactly are we fitghtingfor
@@AkakaDomenjer totally agree.
Neverending whiteman ego
Guys. This man is explaining history and a theory that existed; not his personal views/opinions. He ends the video explaining why it's wrong and the damage it has caused and why it's important to remember. He is trying to understand the point of view of the theory's author. There is no racism in this video. If you see racism, it seems like the mr Magoo effect.
yes, he is honing in on a lot scientific racism that was prevalent during the 18th and 19th centuries within the social sciences and medicine which suited the colonialist agenda and the dangers thereof, and which are still relevant today (i.e that the observer is separate and therefore objective on what he or she is observing which many within the social sciences in particular have been trying to challenge by highlighting the need for transparency on the lens/perspective, and reasons for the research), but also how those theories from that time, have lingered on in the present and this is exemplary of this, so yes i agree with you.
If you don’t watch a video in full, to its conclusion then you should not comment. I see a lot of comments that are addressed by the video. Negative commenters seems to watch the first minute of a video before posting nonsense.
It shows the danger of latching on to the "scientific theory du jour" without allowing for peer review, testing, refinement or even dismantling and replacement with better theories.
Josh Barr: You are absolutely correct! Well-stated! Thanks for a dose of reality!
No he is saying his personal vews because egyptians built the pyramids and they have more middle eastern dna than african
I'm Ethiopian. In Ethiopian you can find from the blackest to nearly white person. I think Ethiopians are the most diverse people in the world. And those people on the illusion are actually my ancestors. They live on the northern part of Ethiopia. That is how they use to live and dress back those days.
I think Indians are the most diverse, I mean you can find really dark skinned people in India in the south or in Islands to a person who is as white as europeans in the far north mountanious regions
As an African, I can't help but feel bemused by the attitudes of these early European travelers. I refuse to concede that they "discovered" anything really, because all these people and places had their own identity and heritage long before their vessels littered our horizons. Further, I am deeply saddened to learn that early Africans accepted and adopted these ideas regarding themselves. However, I am glad that there are scholars out there seeking the truth, for its own sake. Thank you for your work, Mr. Robinson. Love from Kenya.
and the tribal people of North America feel the same.
The minute he said discovered he lost me
@@ashantesanaa4310 he did discover it for Europeans. That isn't to say it didn't exist prior to this but that this was when Europeans became aware of it.
What "our horizons"? 15:31 Says "Africa is the most diverse place on Earth". Do you understand what this implies? If not, let me elucidate to you: There is no "our" as there is no such thing as a solid "African" person if not for a continent. Do not bring others to your own personal feud, which is unexistent regardless. Otherwise, this would validate the concept of the existence of races, and therefore of unity, and thus, if you are "African" and you think there is such a thing as "our horizons", then the horizons were littered with "their vessels", and their means another group, a cohesive formation, one that is solid, therefore there is a reason for anyone "European" to protest the refugee crisis that's going on and justify expelling them for the sake of countering colonization, which we have seen to cause slavery and to spread misery, and no one would like that again.
@@crqf2010ruler I'm pretty sure race exists. How else can they test the DNA of a skeleton and determine what racial group it belonged to? In some cases not even needing to go this far, they can tell just by looking at it's proportions, that is how distinct the skeletons are from one race to the next.
It's REALLY obvious that people commenting are not actually watching the video. He very clearly does not support this theory, he's outlining how it shaped European colonization of Africa. Watch the damn video before commenting.
Thank you
Right!
Yeah but that's nothing to get angry about! Gr=rrr=r
If it's a 'Theory you've never heard of', as the title states then why does he have to debunk it?
@@silentgee9784 well the African continent is at its most peaceful ever and is the fastest growing economic block in the world. You are mistaken to say that the people of Africa are totally in control of their country as multinationals from the western world still have major say there. Remember this is a continent traumatized for hundred of years by slavery and collonization and is slowly recovering from such a trauma. It will take a while for the utopia but we are heading there.
I'm Rwandan and this theory is very right, the Hamatic theory literally caused the genocide, Tutsi and Hutu used to be social classes, but when this theory was weaponized and used as part of the divide and rule policy of the Belgium what was a social class became a different race. That's why so many Tutsi were thrown into rivers, it was to literally send them back to the Mediterranean Sea through the Nile River, where they supposedly came from.
The world is crazy .. (Most)Americans don't realize how lucky we are!
@John Wright links?
Damn! It's amazing how much power a misunderstanding or assumption can have, when we're looking for an excuse to rid ourselves of negative emotion.
The "Hamatic" curse has been debunked...admitted by the one who added it to the scriptures himself. Now let's look at the history of Yakov,(Yakub,Jacob). Also the encyclopedia hermitica by Walter Scott speaks of the Tamahu.
Mr. Gilbert Habarugaba,
We have had similar Ethnic Cleansing here in the US & Canada. The Métis People were of mixed European & Native Ancestry, mostly from the Great Lakes Region. In the US Métis are very rare, as only those who could almost pass for White remained, with the rest being forced West as White Colonists wanted their land so they became part of Nations like the Lakota, Dakota, etc. But in Canada, Métis still exist but until recently were treated as second class citizens who were pushed into the Frontier by White People, who also wanted their land...
So here in the states, we are an almost extinct ethnic group...
As a Native American (Purepecha, Kickapoo, Comanche) it was always so interesting to me and questionable the history of humanity being so lineal. I always thought there was much more to it, talking solely of the Americas there is evidence and indications of world wide populations being present in the hemisphere. Australian aboriginie DNA is found in some Native American nations, so is African and European vestiges pre dating Columbus are wide spread. The folklore of the world has so much in common
This is false, African and European DNA, artifacts, skeletons, etc are not present in any pre Colombian American societies, as for the Australasians it’s theorized that they could have crossed and populated or mixed with the Indigenous people already there. It sounds like you have a belief that you’re trying to make fit when it just doesn’t
I think that Native American and Canadians look like a cross between Mongolian, Philippines, Thai and Chinese!! Nobody else not see this?
We are all brothers and sisters floating in space on a rock💯
That God placed there.
@@Social_Infidel praise Buddha
@@ClinicalpsychFTW Whatever floats your boat.
@@Social_Infidel God kills babies. Everyday.
Sounds like a TV show
Those explorers very well may have misinterpreted what they saw, but "blonde" is a very specific descriptor that you can't mistake for anything else.
21st Centurion yeah! Ge let that drop completely in the latter part of his speech! Why weren't there drawings or some such things?
Blonde does not mean white...
Many children (and some adults keep) blond/ reddish hair in tribes of New Guinea and even some Australian aborigines. Also the whitish hair color of albino people can be taken for blond, which happens in every ethnicity. I think the Global examples given were too cursory, and were left without an confirmation or refutation for the subsequent jump-off into his Mr. Magoo diagnosis specifically directed at African colonialism. ...very weak TEDtalk here...
@@chipwalter4490 - That's what I thought, Feels like he is trying to disprove all white tribes discovered in the world by attacking one instance in one place. Very poor argument.
Children in the Andes grow reddish dark hair a sign of malnutrition
Amazing talk...Never forget history is written by a person, or even worse by governments.
"his story"
de onde já ser viu que há função de um Governante e Escrever Story . agora como e que se explica a situação das Redes sociais e da mídia se uma vez que a Story foi escrita . só um social mídia.e o Governo fez foi sonda e dar GOP e Depois foi compla e estrupar a mídia Adulterar as Redes e clonar Rask isso ele fez com as redes sociais da mídia em Diretamente com Direct Elected.😮#🤡🚬
History is created by victors…
History is written by side that wins
My history teacher taught me a very important lesson that has stayed with me my entire life and that is “There are three sides to all history the victors the losers and those that were caught up in any given event”
The Mr Magoo hypothesis is spot on , on how humans filter out what they accept as the truth
Really? You think after this entire talk, and Stanley’s life work, that he just “made it all up?” Because he was white? That’s a cop out and dna testing should easily be able to confirm or deny his findings.
It's also widely known as confirmation bias
Yes. This include people who hold evolution to be true. They filter information through that filter. So when soft tissue was found in dinosaur bones, that couldn’t not accept that the age of the dinosaur could be much less than their beliefs would allow so they had to come up with a counter explanation to explain how soft tissue could be there.
@Jon Burton This is especially true when one has visited the thunderbolts site!, they have a theory based on the early works of Velikovsky that makes so much sense!
I just told him to dump the Mr. Mcgough hypothesis. The reason is it's because it's a very prejudicial against the blind. I know I experienced it.
As a good rule: Explanatory theory does not describe; descriptive theory does not explain. But, really, theories work not because they are irrefutable -- they work because they are a best "fit" for reality confirmation, and what is real here is just about anything that is fairly predictable.
Every scientific discovery and theorem is refutable. That’s the nature of science as a system of belief. There was a point in time where even scientists believed that the earth was flat and women couldn’t board trains due to how their ovaries were theorized to fly out of their bodies at “great speeds” (over 40 MPH). Those were irrefutable facts, the “best fit” for people who were uncomfortable thinking that what they knew could be wrong.
You're a brainrot slime using hueristics and pompously trumpeting it, to feel smart.. and it's because you think you're using logic, need validation, and can't tell logic from hueristics.
Go save someone's life for cnn and act selfless. Turn it up.
@@horustrismegistus1017 Don't comment if you do not understand the subject, Horus.
We need explanatory descriptions of descriptive explanations. Also, don't tell other people what to do unless you're willing to force them. You don't know what he understands
Theory explains the phenomenal.
Laws describe the cause (force).
Descriptions explain nothing.
(related: Cartesian Dualism.)
Specifically:
Phenomena are "moments", describable, but not "caused" by anything: think of an adequate and complete "description" of why, how gravity "works " the way it does. The Newtonian explanation (a modeling of theory) works; it works so well that it has become a mathematical (deductive) "law". But "laws" on this order have nothing to do with inductive reasoning or predictive value. Such "laws" do not contribute to an explanation of what can be reasonably described. They are laws since, while a matter of "best fit" for reality testing (consensus), they are outside the scope of "refutation" -- for the time being, of course. ----Circular argument adds nothing. ...besides, it's only a generalization.
(I should have said "law" and not "theory" respecting description, however.
My apologies.
Laws are just "massively confirmed" theory, after all.) @@watcher805
And there's the Dafaqarwi tribe. They are the ones in the long grass that jump up and down and shout "where Dafaqarwi?"
mulli mulli
That’s a Dad joke I can’t wait to tell my Dad!! 🤣‼️🇮🇪
mulli mulli
😂😂😂
Dude!!! LOL.
@@MrDomiko It's "We're the dafarqawi"
This is literally my dad’s favorite joke 😂
Let me save you all some time. He's saying not to be racist. You're welcome.
Adam 1,
Might Is Right Why do you say that?
Might Is Right Why do we need different colors?
Might Is Right Did you ever think that if your philosophy was more solid, you wouldn't need to get ugly to defend it?
I was more than willing to give you that opportunity, and was hoping we'd have an intelligent conversation.
Generally, the only people who respond your way are those who feel threatened.
he's a troll account
I'm baffled as an anthropologist, why he finds it fascinating to find caucasoid DNA in Africa because the Northern African regions have caucasoids called Berbers.. you also have carthaginian DNA, and Greek DNA, Roman etc... I always feel it's better called Southern Mediterranean than North Africa!
It’s considered both
Very insightful information. I'd like to add that there are ancient tribes in Africa that were light skin resembling more Asiatic people, and it didn't have anything to do with white people, but perhaps positioning of how far from the equator they were. Also, you have to take into consideration the military movement from the west of Europe into those places. There are deserters or others that for some reason decide to switch or stay with the opposition, it happens more frequently than not. Americans staying in Vietnam after the conflict, buffalo soldiers switching sides in the conflict in the Philippines and on and on.
it is remarkeble that the Khoisan of Southern Africa, actually genetic the oldest people in Africa, were never connected to the Hamitics in spite of being lighter skinned than the Bantu people.
Those light skinned people are Khoisan people. Asians look like them. The Khoisan was here first and they are genetically linked to the Khoisan
Yes . Transkei coast where Mandela came from . Clearly Chinese genetics . Lots of Chinese pottery etc found there
Deserters & those who switch sides do not happen more times than not. It happens more than we would assume, but there is not more soldiers deserting & switching sides during conflict than sticking to their side.
@@penelopehunt2371 Excpt the people are not even remotely connected to Chinese people through DNA.
Isn't it possible that some of the Inuit picked up some 'blond genes' from the Vikings that settled briefly in Greenland?
Vikings got kicked out Greenland, don't think the Inuit chicks got that frisky with guys twice the size of their men. (get it?)
Much more likely that it was just a genetic accident that led to a single tribe having numerous (exaggeration?) or some blond/blue-eyed individuals. Such things happen in parts of Asia. By this time, they would all have blended back into the larger genetic background.
@@DieFlabbergast But Asians accidentally born with those characteristics are still Asian, aren't they?
During the ice-ages Europe wasn't frozen all the time. There were intervals of a 1000 to 10000 years where the glaciers retreated and grew back again. Where people went (back) into Europe when it was a tundra filled with herds of animals and retreated to different parts of land when the glaciers grew back. During those periods it is of course more than likely they had relations with Asians and Africans, therefor passing on their genetics. Because of these relations Europeans and Asians and also Africans share DNA, but they are all at the base separate races. Ice-age mummies were found in the desert of China that were genetically Caucasian. Not Asians with blue eyes, or a branch.
bleached in
@@DieFlabbergast Goddammit, half my text is gone! Wait for it,...
by that measure America has been briefly settled by white people
...and in 5 more years it’ll be presented to me for the third time as “a theory youve never heard of”....testing my memory or some algorithmic dingus...
Not sure 2021 is going to be kind to this theory.
10 years...
it really is irritating the red bar isn't permanent after you've already seen a thingy
@@vif3182 As long as you watch a video while you're logged in it does.
El Sea - will you be my friend? The above comment is excellent in spite of the current ubiquitous osmoregulatory derping... I now know what hope is- Thank You. Do you wear a faraday hat? I was certain we were the equivalent of paramecium and bam - someone else notices. I am going to go meditate in the Bermuda Triangle for the rest of my existence.
Interesting. As a genealogist I recognize that many times there may be inaccuracies in paper recorded history, some errors made through simple recording mistakes, some through record translation problems, some through background and experience mistakes, and some through malicious intent, but what genetic genealogy is now showing us is that DNA testing and analysis doesn't lie. Perhaps the way to resolve some of these paper historical questions is to focus a bit more on DNA testing and analysis. However, I've tested with five current fairly large DNA testing companies and found that none of them agree with each other 100%, and that is largely because they all test different parts of the DNA string. But, one of the side benefits of most DNA testing lab results are the migration maps that are often provided, and they could perhaps help resolve some of the white tribe questions. But this effort, because of the numbers of potential records involved, might (would) take a lot of human effort and involvement. Perhaps a problem better resolved by computer, eh? But, would the human written computer algorithms be true, open, and honest, or would they be biased? Humans are such complex animals...
All that understanding, you are high in empathy. I bet you are your loved one’s therapist aren’t you?
@@rustyshakleford1445 -- Some love me, and some want to stay away from me. I suspect we are what we are, and since we are all different, we appeal to some, and not to others, eh?
But especially it points to how humans WILL interpret any genetic or color differences tribally or at least thru different lenses.
This man provides good empathetic framing which is sorely needed
@@janforney -- I suspect that part of the human communications problems is that we-all have different backgrounds and goals in life and we-all often use different word and phrase definitions. Of course the communists always want to put humans into the same box, but that never works out very well for anyone but those who support such a bizarre view of life. If we view others as being different and ask more questions, rather than take the 'I know everything' attitude, I suspect there would be less conflict on Earth. But, I could be wrong.
It seems I recall sing some videos on here that exposed what a hoax and fraud DNA testing is and that it is not able to so accurately find one's ancestry as they claim. That was a few years ago so not sure if it's changed and become more accurate
Amazing talk. this talk makes me feel that, anthropology nowadays has been developed by hundreds of years, and near half of them are misrecorded, in African history, especially.
I'm a stem student, but this video makes me give more attentions on the history and the development of different races.
What I understood with this talk is the when history was being created there might’ve been more than one theory but the side that prevailed was the strongest theory which suppressed all other theories and thus we might not have the whole story of our history. Being able to go back in history to study all theories of the times and thus maybe understand why according to our knowledge of history sometimes it doesn’t even make sense.
Person As side of what happened
Person Bs side of what happened
What really happened all three of these are true unless one person intentionally lied but basically the one who wins the battle is the hero who tells their story
@@alexandriarennie5992 thus history is his Story, only once story
I think someone "Someone doth protest to much" After all, I can logically prove to you Dragon Flies can't fly as we watch we watch them fly about. Best of luck tu you???.
History is not theory, but rather the recall of facts which have been recorded. If you lie in present tense and record that lie your history will also be a lie.
@@danh7739 oh u smart
"They had European hair, noses, and eyes and regarded themselves as foreign people who came from elsewhere."
"So they were European?"
"No it's just coincidence"
Uhhh have you heard of genetic mutation d umbass
they were the original africans !!
@@glenncater1 😂
@@mr.z9829 WE KNOW THAT AFRICANS GOT DARKER OVER TIME WHEN THEY LEFT EUROPE AND STARTED LIVING IN AFRICA! NOW LOOK AT THE AFRICANS! THEY ARE ALMOST ALL DARK-SKINNED NOW !!
for exploiters anything needs me some extra explanation.
Brilliantly presented. Thank you
Not really
@@jenniferwebb5954 I agree. Shoddy. Why are so many taken in by a bad idea presented slickly…?
I bought a ranch in Northern NM and the village near the ranch was supposedly occupied by 'white haired folks' when the Spanish arrived there in the early days. The locals still talk about them... but supposedly they 'left' shortly after the Spanish arrived. This would all be easy to dismiss except that the village's name means 'white hair'.
Maybe it was a retirement community?
@@a.i.gorerithmit456 Just like the nursing home folks "left" after getting boosted.
Was interesting to see that first map with the stars on it, there is a star in New Zealands North Island. There were pale-skinned tribes (as well as very dark-skinned tribes, ie: Mori Ori) in New Zealand Aotearoa before the Melanesian and Polynesian people immigrated here 1200 years ago. Pale with ginger hair, many are still around, and many Maori have surprising red hair. 3 tribes with these features were Ngati Hotu, Ngati Ruakopiri and Ngati Kurapoto, all living near Lake Taupo, the largest lake in the Pacific.
Youre kidding? Thank you for the info
3 pre Polynesian tribes ? I thought there where only 1. Thanx for the info !
Facts, go back farther tho. That’s still too early in history. Both tribes have sort of voyages in there history
New zealander here, im pretty sure we found chinese relics dated back to 457 ad in nz
could there be a difference in traditional dieet between the dark and the light skinned Maori?
When the dark skinned have a dieet that contains enough vitamine D, becoming light skinned has no benefit. When a dieet creates a vit D deficite, becoming light skinned increased the amount of vitamin D obtained through sunlight.
When De Soto ventured in the Southeastern US, he noticed that the Cherokee people had many members with Red & Blonde streaks of hair. And also lighter skin. Historically approximately 500 years prior to DeSotos campaign there was a Welsh campaign by a man named Maddox at the time of William the Conqueror who debarked Wales with 10 ships and were never heard from again. I’d love to see more extensive DNA testing of known Welsh Ancestry.
Yes, indeed. So, Stanley may have encountered Albino people. Some tribes in East Africa, Tanzania, Southern Bantu tribes are known for Albinism. These people were either killed or sent far North Africa. As a matter of fact, the Zunni Tribe in the USA were known for albinism. We are all so connected!
@@lr7221 What he claims about Africa is wrong tho at least by calling them White, we have evidence of this but they were Semetic Middle eastern/Caucasian people, not Europeans which we consider White today. Ham is a Middle eastern Lineage .. not European. East Africans have confirmed Semetic ancient dna.
@@YungPrince2k16 Arabs and Jews and all other Semetic Speaking peoples are considered white by the USA census.
@@SCHMALLZZZ Brother even if we go off lightskin genes, lightskin evolved firstly in the Middle East 22-28,000 years ago compared to the genes that evolved in Europe 8,500 years ago which by the way both are two different genes.
All the ancient migrations into North/East Africa were from the Middle East, not Europe. They were lightskin yes but not what we in America label "White". Stop trying to steal Middle Eastern history.
@@YungPrince2k16 caucasians came from Asia. Ever heard of the Caucasus mountains? I’m sure many escaped and migrated over the years to all 4 directions, but the ones captured by Assyria, were placed north of Assyria to buffer the border. All those areas caucasians were known to come from. They went North, East, and west from there everyone assumes.
Very interesting looking at this map and thinking in terms of continental drift.
There are totally obvious differences between the peoples of Africa along the eastern coast from yemen to ethiopia, each country has a characteristic look. Also the tribes of central africa around the congo have very different body shapes along with the facial differences of the east coast.
Yes this known Kenyan look different from Ethiopian, Ethiopian breed with neanderthals, Kenyan genes is pure it will serve them well.
@@oranebrown2169 aren't you cheerful.
@@mikemalo6336 I tell no lies, east African and inhabitants of the Swahili, are mix breed
@@oranebrown2169 were the original people. The j haplogroup that Niger Congo people have is new.
Science doesn't care about your silly theories
@@skp8748 and Aboriginal Australians say they were never in Africa, they also look very different, in fact, if it was just about looks, I'd say they were right, and were likely first. I have always assumed the out of Africa theory was wrong, because the dates are proven to be wrong. Yes, much like the big bang they just push the date back and act as though the theory is still fine.
It seems to me that people are making negative comments before watching his conclusion where he claims the Hamitic Hypothesis is BS. Either that or his Mr. Magoo hypothesis applies to the comments as well.
He does this with zero evidence or proof. Speculation is not very scientific.
The Mr Magoo Hypothesis is very very good!
Racial determination is based on cranial measurements, not skin color. Did Mr Robinson, at ANY point, use SCIENCE to form his hypothesis? No. He SHOULD have found out the cranial measurements of these "white tribes" to determine if they WERE white tribes or not, then make a hypothesis.
So, it is actually Mr Robinson that is suffering from his own Mr Magoo hypothesis.
Its sad you actually believe this.. sadder still is you believe makes you smarter than the rest of us.. waiting for your arbitrary and impotent 'stats'
Richard Depaola jr - Where did you read that race is based on cranial measurements, Mien Kamph?
I am Ugandan. 🇺🇬 The entire story surrounds my place of origin (Western Region of Uganda) so I feel particularly touched by such a discovery. I have for long sought to find the cause of difference in color among the natives, which is usually attributed to intermarriages with foreign nations.
This theory opens up a new field of discovery. Fascinating
The differences in skin tone do not mean there was intermarriage with foreigners outside of Africa.
Blacks are blacks with variation is skin tones.
Yes, the old "out of Africa" hypothesis has been thoroughly disproven. It's a narcissistic trap.
@@VeritasEtAequitas actually it has not and you just saying it has does not make it correct. Ignorance is abundant on this video.
@@VeritasEtAequitas 🤣🤣🤣
"History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napolean Bonaparte
From what i've seen, just about every great "explorer" had an indigenous guide of some sort that had already been there, took care of the the explorer and his team when they fell ill or got lost.
The speaker ignores the possibility of white people being taken as slaves. The whole world has a history of slavery, we know white people were enslaved in Africa, Europe and Asia. Even if only 2 or 3 white women were taken, they could produce a small tribe of lighter skinned Africans in just a few years. Europeans could have even bartered a few poor white women, in exchange for other goods.
Isn´t it great to be the very first to discover something?
Excellent command over the topic. Very profound and interesting talk. I wonder why some people have given thumbs down. They must be the ones with no interest in the topic and neither listened nor followed anything. Why did you have to comment if this was too over your head? Go look for something you'd follow.
"Victoria is the ultimate source of de Nile" - Victoria's Secret
Lol
Us guys know that secret.
Cleopatra‘s favourite store
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Great talk. Sadly the effects of this are still present in Africa today but we are waking up to that fact and working towards change.
The last few minutes were the most informative.
Yup, most of the thumbs down are due to people not really listening to what he is saying. What is being explained here is an idea that had a significant number of followers in its day, influenced the thoughts and actions of people far and wide, and shows how preconceived notions can blind a person, or group, from reality. Good talk, this should not be forgotten! :)
He expended an awful lot of words to explain how this stupid, stupid Bible-centered theory influenced a bunch of bigots in the 19th Century, and to a lesser degree, the 20th century. The Mr. Magoo Theory was more interesting, but even that was simply an explanation of confirmation bias.
Comedy
I am far, very far from been a political correct oriented individual, and I listen to this and to any other theory because when an scholar do a true UNBIASED research it have to be expose to each and every theory in order to formulate an opinion.
Nope, my thumb down is for not mentioning John Hanning Speke even ONCE in this speech. And for not doing his research properly
Well come on, Peter Lee, speak up. Say something. What do you think?
It's fascinating to hear someone pontificate on evolutionary theories that can never be confirmed but can only be hypothesized upon, demonstrating that there is still so much we don't understand and probably never will.
How could you know what can never be confirmed?
@@speciesofgark4169 That is called faith.
@@shawnmontgomery3569 but that's not knowing. Faith has nothing to do with knowing anything.
@@speciesofgark4169 It is by faith that people were getting a COVID vaccine to prevent infection and transmission of COVID.
@@shawnmontgomery3569 - Even though we Montgomerys have to stick together, Covid is science not faith; of course one could have faith in science as I do.
The book, the 7 Daughters of Eve, always fascinated me as well. It starts to make sense.
Great video and presentation. Very intriguing.
If you are interested there is a documentary called Skeletons in The Closet from Aotearoa, New Zealand which is in a similar discovery shape.
thanks emma!
It was here on Tubes in the early two thousands, but seems to have been taken down/disappeared.
That was complete fraud
@@SiliconBong yeah because it was completely made up
@@pappagallagher2227 That's what they want you to believe :o
Close your eyes and imaging Owen Wilson is giving this talk
That is almost the funniest thing I have experienced. Hard to believe it isn't OW!
Brian Stone I can't stop hearing Owen Wilson now!
Erin S. hahaha so true!!!
now im imagining owen giving a speech to ben stiller
lol
Loved this!! So interesting!
Love this and How important our Historians are for todays generation's to discover. Love exploration histories!
Love it too, shame I could not have a teacher like this who could actually make me thinking about history a lot more than remember a dates of events! Current educational system is so behind of technology that I find it difficult to actually learn more from it than search engines, staking it up with gptchat, current system is doomed to fail.
11:26 Robinson: "Literally all of Africa had been carved up by Europeans."
Ethiopia: "Excuse me?!?"
Complete nonsense
Wow, I learned something today. Thank you. I am of Rwandan descent and during the genocide, Hutus referred to Tutsis as Ethiopians or Nilotics. Even though genetically it has never been proven, the history that was tought to us and passed from previous generation is the Hemetic theory due to colonialism and people believe it to this day.
Hametic is a myth but Tutsi are mixed Ethiopian ,nilotic and Bantu (just like many hutus due to intermarriage) ...im Somalian and i believe Tutsi arrived to Rwanda from east Africa (no idea where exactly ) Rwandan people look very similar to Masai tribe in Kenya (they are half Ethiopian) and i notice many of you look like our people i even saw your president family and they look from horn of Africa but they are taller off course
Umm, it has been proven genetically...both via DNA and via cranial measurements, the thing the speaker conveniently left out so his opinion makes sense.
Miseducation is so sad...
84JLane thats exactly why one must never forget his roots. If d next generation is not taught the history of their forefathers, they will be susceptible to believe anything and everything that is taught to them as history, including propoganda.
84JLane you need to wake up they are just trying to graft albino to them
Hollow Earth. The mighty governments prevent the north and south poles from being explored. I find that interesting. Furthermore, many discoveries and accounts of strange experiences around both.
What do we do as online instructors who have no control over our curriculum? We know that they've constructed to the middle but don't have the time to rewrite an entire set of resources! Shouldn't they be the ones watching this video?
*finally: the based land*
I dont get it
@@SirMonty_ consider yourself lucky
I don’t get it
Hyperborea, we must return
@@johnymackd7933 isn’t Hyperboria a far-right conspiracy theory?
No picture can capture how spectacular these monuments are up-close and in person They're stunning relics from a bygone era, but they're also mesmerising works of art. I saw them 40 years ago and I can still remember them as if I saw minutes ago.
wtf are you referencing human beings as relics you saw 40 years ago?
I agree in terms of the monuments. I presume you are talking about the pyramids picture he used as a reference point. Totally not what the lecture was about, but way to focus on 1 tiny thing mentioned in the video. But I agree. Much more spectacular in person I would imagine.
@@jonathanslayton3112 Happy New Year; I'm glad you presumed and didn't assume. Best of luck to ya'.
Dan, you seem to have broken some unwritten yt comments rule. I'm not entirely sure what you did wrong, but don't do it again or you'll get commented at.!
You show signs of being a genus; beware no good can come from it. Good luck and good riddance to all.
funny part of these old theories is often, that they put the core of civilisation in the near east asian area or in india and they define these groups of the west of India as white, including all today called muslim arabs or turks etc.
We are progressing! We are progressing, my good man! When you suddenly understand that your eyesight is not as good as you believed it to be, you then realize that things are not what you see them to be. This creates a wide opening in the acceptation to be wrong. Accepting to be wrong is the most basic tenet of intellectual honesty, integrity and science. You have to actively seek ways in which you could possibly be wrong in what you see if you want to be honest. Mr Magoo becomes a telling allegory of what people naturally become without the help of a self-testing methods: erratic yet self-assured.
1. - There some natives of New Zealand who are red-headed. They tell of a story where their ancestors come from far away to escape a brutal war and came to New Zealand, and married with the Natives already there. Apparently some of them didn't stay there, but move to PNG. When DNA tests were done on these people, it was found that they are closely related to people from the Middle East!
2. - We are not taking into account that we do *not* know what happened in our *previous civilisations!* There are TONS of evidence saying that the world was previously civilised (and possibly an advanced civiisation). But a great cataclysm/natural disaster/flood occurred that wiped out humans save for a few survivors. And we lost all our technology and scientific knowledge. We reverted back to living as cave dwellers.
2.i. - WHO'S TO SAY that this previous civilisation wasn't international, and that the people travelled all the time? Maybe that is why there are PYRAMIDS around the world, including Japan, China, Indonesia, South America, Egypt and so on.
2.ii. - This might also explain why the DNA of SOUTH Native Americans were found to be genetically connected to Native *Australian* DNA, whereas the DNA of NORTH American Natives are connected to Eastern Europe genetically!
2.iii. We don't remember all our human history!! ✨🐬✨
Red hair is the result of a mutation in which melanin is imperfectly assembled. It can occur anywhere.
This doesn’t have enough likes for my taste
@@pinkdoll3578 oh I get likes and comments disappearing all the time.
By undermining Sasquatch searchers, he loses my respect
You are completely right. Never mind what i think about certain topic!
Yet we still haven't found it or proven it.
Imagine of these people were actually being tricked for decades.
Ouch, that's got to hurt.
by underminding the mentally ill?
@@lilas8217 Exactly
While trying to rewrite history and saying at the same time, "This isn't like some wacky idea like scientists who go looking for Sashquatch" made me belly laugh!
That, sir, is who your audience is! AKA, opened minded people.
do you think bigfoot doesnt exist? lol
@@whitekaren7742 I'm neutral.
WELL THEY DO EXIST !! I LIVE NEAR A FEW FAMILIES@@Gstv76
The Ainu people are fascinating. A whole Ted talk could be devoted to just their people.
Fyi this is a informational video. He's offering context. Not something to take offense over. To which, based on the comments and dislikes... Over half seem to be entirely missing the context and unable to listen outside their own.
Exactly.... they react like Mr. Magoo !
@HEREWARD THE WAKE *context not content.
damn...that was an eloquent breakdown of mr. magoo... this guy has a way with words.
LOL
The mr. Magoo hypothesis, otherwise known as confirmation bias
But Mr. Magoo is a great analogy
Thanks for a well-presented talk of this nearly unknown theory. As DNA sampling of populations continues around the globe, the various tribes, civilizations and migrations of humans will continue to be refined and reveal our diversity and our origins.
You can't get history or origns from dna only close relatives.
Indeed. But the results seem to be contradicting the official narrative, so their not talked about, just kept as side news.
WOW I learned so much in this video. I have heard about this more and more the last 6 months!! I'm so glad that the truth is starting to come out and I'm here for it!!
There could’ve been albinos on that mountain 😂 all speculation
After reading the comments first. I enjoyed his presentation non- bias(ed)(ly).
Doesn't sound very scientific to pass everything off as observational prejudice. The dismissal is about as scientific as observational prejudice itself. It's like saying I'm not capable of any level of objectivity, so you're not capable of any level of objectivity either. Maybe, or maybe not.
stop with you nonsense !!
Stan was a lier.. where are these white tribes now!! In those days in was easier to get funding by lieing 👍
Quite possible that there would be no trace of ancient white africans. We know what has happened to many albino africans in their recent history.
@@abutorab2914 as you say that consider the rest of the lies you have been taught that were spread under the same principal. Offer proof of your claim or remain seated.
He probably never heard of the thousands of years of back migrations, Stan didn't either but he was slightly more on thr money noting admixture, but wrong to pass it off as "white" should have said Eurasian lol
So very interesting. I'm a history nut . His subject is so interesting. But then there are some of us who want to find out more, but are afraid of "ruffling the feathers" so to speak, if we ask too many questions.
“Noah parks the ark on top of Mt Ararat” 🤣
“Shem! Japheth! If you two kids don’t knock it off back there I swear to God I’ll turn this ark around!”
"For those of you who aren't old enough to remember Mr. Magoo, here's an even older and less popular example you won't get either."
true
Kek
"Who is Don Quixote" lol - nice:)
apparently hardly any commentator heard the whole speech. the lecturer is actually NOT advocating the hamite hypothesis, but describing it as dead buried colonial bullshit. which is correct.
Benjamin _ R8ght. Egypt. Which is not sub Sahara Africa.
Benjamin _ This is what Google gas to say: Hair color is a fascinating study in itself, and the wide range of shades portrayed in Egyptian art does, to a large extent, reflect the diverse range found in reality. The most common hair color then, as now, was a very dark brown, almost black color, although natural auburn and even (rather surprisingly) blonde hair are also to be found. With their great fondness for elaboration, the Egyptians’ skillful use of dyes has produced yet further shades for us to study, analysis showing many to be various forms of henna, which even an aged Rameses II had used regularly to rejuvenate his white hair.
Conclusion: nobody knows the exact origin of the ancient egyptians. They clearly had both light and dark hair. This has nothing to do with the claims made in the video. It's about dated theories about there being white people living in sub saharan Africa in pre historic times. There are no proof for this theory and it's considered bogus since many years.
Benjamin _ No, watch it again. there are plenty of youtube videos that might touch on your personal human race theory, but this is not it.
+Benjamin: So how come the Nubians and Egyptians, whose roots are subSaharan, built a great culture long before Northern Europeans ever did?
According to Luis L'Amour, who had been there, the people of the Rif mountains in N Africa appear to be completely white, including numerous redheads. Possibly descendants of the "People of the Sea" who invaded the Middle East about 1500 BC. Supposedly they included the Hittites and "philistines" (Pyoset) of the Bible.
Would be interesting to understand the extent to which Hamitic attitudes have fostered the legacy of slavery among Africans that continues to be pervasive today. Furthermore, were those that captured individuals and sold them as slaves to Arabs and Europeans of lighter skin than their victims?
I theorize in my head, frequently, about humanoid racial origins & migration. Really fascinating subject.
What have you come up with so far?
Nothing
I dont think I really have extraterrestrial origins but the rh-negative theory is a fun rabbit hole
@@mightymouse1111 We came from a nordic alien race
@@dexterabend8945 aaaaaaah, last I heard it was a basque alien race...
Don't forget how the Vikings travelled very far.
Northern Eurasian People’s, who were partial ancestors of the Indo Europeans had the same genes for blonde hair. People always say “Vikings Vikings Vikings”, the Vikings were active 1000 years ago, the Ancestors of those Inuits that gave them blonde hair would’ve happened 10,000-20,000 years ago maybe more.
Yamnyan Chariot Chads
"Sail our ships to new lands, fight the horde" led Zeppelin
Yes but not biblical or ancient it was within the past 6k years of the birth of the white race
But Leif Eriksson was the first recorded to discover Canada, and norsemen were known to leave behind small settlements. Wouldn't that also be a viable source of blond hair?
Very informative thank you. I wonder if this theory and others account for giant people who are 8 - 9 feet tall or higher. Such as Magellan’s account of very tall people on the Patagonian coast.
I was thinking the same thing. I doubt this guy knows the existence of tartarian giants civilization worldwide pre 1776, amazonian giants, Manchurian giants, Japanese giant sumo wrestlers, Persian Giants etc..... pre last deluge aka global great reset.....
I heard giants were indians N Chinese...all Asian countries 🤷I dnt no how true that is....
Hmmm. I discovered Patagonia as part of my recent genome deep analysis. Almost every continent actually. The Andes, North America Plains, Central Asian, Africa ( all over including small percentage Egypt) Meso American included which I traced back linage to the Toltecs. Europe: Scandinavia, Ireland, England & France...I've been everywhere and the ancestors are running through my veins daily.m to remind me that I'm a nomad.
@@thealchemist7871no there were giant white redheads too, their skulls are a foot tall and in museums
The Ainu were the original inhabitants of what we today call Japan. The Ainu were displaced by the "Japanese" who likely migrated from China. The only remnants of the Ainu are found in Hokkaido today.
Hyperborea more like Hyperbased and redpilled
Fellow telegram user?
Interesting talk, specially for people who are not aware of Hamitic Hypothesis.
5:20 Greeks in white shirts is a very interesting statement
today we know of this very interesting concept, cognitive biases, one is called ingroup bias, and this thing makes us believe that the members of our group are superior to the members of another group, but the method to determine our group and the method to determine the other groups can change a lot.
the method we choose can be based on political alliance, on nationality, on economic system, on religion, on the color of the skin (not necessarily race), on race or like in infamous Jane Elliot's the color of our eyes.
This is a key factor that is forgotten in any conversation about race.
Another fact that is forgotten is that Europe was like that, they saw the differences in what we would called ethnicity today but the latin word for that in those times would be race.
there is also a thing called victory bias. if you win at something you are superior
I guess humans have been explorers for far longer than they taught me in school
How long was that?
Sweet cross. So right about 6K, I reckon?
Indeed they were. There are many videos on here about ancient civilisations and out of place artifacts. all mind blowing stuff.
School and the rest of it have got it all wrong, science is proving that.
Try looking at Gregg Braden and Graham Hancock.
@@beckyboop3517 graham handcock is a little bit too cringe 😬
@@Smason432 oh i do like him.
Michael Robinson explains the mindset of European explorers in the 18th and 19th centuries who saw the world from the perspective of Bible and racism.
Does the Bible promote racism?
@@mellowrage4892 i wondered the same thing
@@mellowrage4892 it does it put Jews over other people , it says that certain people of a certain linage are cursed , the Bible is a book written during different time period with certain views
Bottom line the mainstream history most of us have been taught has many voids throughout. Very interesting Ted Talk many thanks. Also,Mt Ararat in Turkey has a wooden boat very high up on it’s flank. There’s even an exit on the HWY mentioning ‘the Ark’. National Geographic went up to explore the remains of the boat in the late 80’s I believe in was 1987. Now Turkey has closed off any further exploration on the mountain.
Vikings scandavians travelled alot.
As a little boy I walked into a shop in Wyoming with my dad. There inside was a wooden Indian holding cigars in one hand and his other placed above his eyebrows acting as a sunshade. I asked my dad about the Indian and he said, "That a Fugawi Indian". I said, "Fugawi"? I've never heard of that tribe. He said, "Well just look at him. He got his hand above stretched out above his eyes like a sun shade and is saying Where the Fugawi"?
😂
Haha awesome story!
Remember F-Troop?
This is why when I travel I dont have expectations. I find that I enjoy it so much more that way. I do always try to learn some of their language though. I fond it helps people connect with me more. (Although in Iceland they laughed at me. But, they appreciated that I tried.)
3:55 My family are from Denbigh, where Henry Morton Stanley was born. His house is still there, up by the Castle. For generations too, most of the people in the Clwyd/Denbighshire counties were born in St Asaph, in the HM Stanley hospital.
Been all through the area of East Africa he is discussing, how fascinating. Heh, I was there in 2012/3. Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania, etc.... fascinating that he was there in 2013.
A Fun Minigame: Find TED videos with a high amount of dislikes, and only using the top 10 comments, try to figure out which group of people is responsible.
So true
Interesting idea
sMALL hATS?
Let that sink in
It really seems as a disease
70% of the comments: "Guys, this man is explaining history and a theory that existed, not his personal views or opinions."
20% of the comments: The guys that the above people were talking to.
~10% of the comments: Everything else.
~0.024% of the comments: This comment.
@Joe Me Yes they do. ~10% could be 9.976%.
@Joe Me Yes they do. ~10% could be 9.976%.
@Joe Me Yes they do. ~10% could be 9.976%.
@@jamesblunt006 but why?
Well I simply thought mountainous is in the clouds and cold .No need for melonin.And Glacier on top.And some I won't mantion about Noa.
I think the subject fasinating. Thank you for telling us about your research.
Thank you. Well done.
I'm not white...I study ancient writings and various cultures do indeed talk about these whites tribes. In North and South America, these white tribes have red hair. Elongated skulls are found all around the world near megalithic stone sites, if they still have hair it's usually blond to reddish hair. In very ancient Indian texts they talk about white tribes.
A non-biased rarity you are. Thank you.
We definatrly existed.
Nice condescending white man comment Mikus , you sure put him in his place didnt ya.
@@stoppernz229 LOL. non whites were in the americas 130000 years ago
They’re nephalim
In a remote part of Paraguay there are people who are blue eyed and blonde. This is because, back in the Thirties, a bunch of idealistic Australians decided to go to South America and create a utopian society. They set up a self-governing commune in the jungle, anticipating the hippie communes of the Seventies, which, like the communes of the Seventies, eventually crumbled from in-fighting and power struggles. The utopian dream failed but the descendants of those idealists have passed their genes on to several generations via intermarriage with Paraguayans. The Out of Africa model of racial dispersion is not a one-way street. For thousands of years different peoples have travelled and set up colonies in distant lands which is why I would have no trouble believing that might be light skinned Arctic peoples that were descended, perhaps, from Vikings. The fallacy lies in assuming that certain characteristics such as light skin, blue eyes and blonde hair will eventually be overcome by the "dominant" genes of dark hair and skin and brown eyes. Genetic traits can persist for hundreds of generations particularly if people continue to marry within their own ethnic group.
Please tell this to that crazy lady on Red Ice TV who seems to think all non-white people are plotting to bully white people from planet earth.
gratia xantos you mean the people who have said they will hold whites as slaves for 500 years then genocide whites. There are reasons she believes that
Glad I found this. I didn't realize there were so many white tribes scattered around the globe. The I'm familiar with was not on the map. It was located in western Mexico. I read about them in a friends book Can't remember the name of it but I've got in my mind that it may be found in Salt Lake City.
I think people are confused because this looks like a lecture but it's only an ad for his book.
That's what half of UA-cam vids are someone promoting
Themselves and their art
On the off chance that the speaker is interested in reading commentary, I note that you cannot approach history and anthropology as "pure sciences" leading to conclusive and clean cut theories about human geneology and evolution. You need to either personally master both the shared "popular" knowledge (folklore) and the language of locale (or community) or to employ the sevice of those of the locale who may voluntarily or inadvertently present that knowledge to you.
For example, as a young european-looking but Palestinian / arabic speaking student in Ohio , I recall being teased about being one of the ناس الحلبة "MILK PEOPLE" due to my fair complexion by a Sudanese friend from Madani in central Sudan. Turns out, that is a derogatory term among the tribes of central Sudan (Jaaliyyin الجعليين in this case) used not to describe an individual with fair complexion but to describe a specifically "white" community of circassian (Caucasian) origins settled in the region in Memluk times...
You only need to look at current history and the population movements from the Middle East and Central America northwards to figure out that the history of human population is a fluid mass pretty much independent of geography and, over time, race and genetics.
It seems there is alot of judging by skin color and its not limited to "white" people, however you want to define white....the more we concern ourselves with skin color, the less we can relate as HUMAN, kwim?
There was a remnant of the giants that had made it through the flood. Its not unreasonable to think that others made it through the flood as well.
I’ve watched this so many times because I love the Mr Magoo reference!!
A really wonderful presentation of the influences of how diverse we are and the influence of the Hamitic Hypothesis. Thanks for the bit of appropriate humor in a very sad part of how we have and do treat each other.
You can also thank TEDX for censoring Mikhaila Peterson's Carnivore Ted Talk. So diverse and brave.
@@blandeauxfillaskii7344 profile pic checks out
@@blandeauxfillaskii7344 what? That Satan engineered meat eaters. Word
Races don't share all the same ancestors. Different races have different admixtures from different extinct cousins of "humans". The single ancestor model doesn't hold up. It's far more complex than that.
@@whodat8902 Certainly all humans are descended from mitochondrial Eve and Y chromosomal Adam in Africa about 200,000 years ago. The out of Africa story is just amazing. Everyone outside of Africa are descended from a few groups which left Africa about 100,000 years ago. We are all Africans, everyone in the world. That is why more genetic DNA diversity is found in Africa than in the rest of the world put together.
The mr magoo hypothesis is brilliant! Well done with that one
Humanity has been here for 450,000+ years.
A.D.D is like the explanation of Mr.Magoo he gives...a room that mr.magoo is in being the task...every object bumped into being the distractions and rabbit holes we go down when distracted.
Whoa
When we all have perfect knowledge, then we'll know why people look the way they look and how they got to where they are. Until then, we are all Mr. Magoo, at some level, on just about everything. We all believe that OUR perspective is THE right perspective on "X" topic. (And, yes, I believe MY perspective on perspectives is THE right perspective. Ironic, isn't it?)
Still, Michael has put together a working hypothesis - good for him. Now, it's a matter of investigating and gathering data. It's interesting to travel the paths which intellectual curiosity leads us to. As long as the hypothesis continues to develop to account for the data, we'll continue to be interested.
Bravo, you are logical AND clever...