Yeah. The Crusader AA with the twin 20mm is the same way. Just enough armor to stop cannons most the time so people come into strafe you and it's free kills.
I tend to use the Bosvark because everyone dives on it to get their free kill, and if I don't suck that day they get obliterated by twin 23mm with 4x the explosive filler as the skink
I find it ironic that just like in real life, the skink arrived too late to be a viable AA so you use it as an everything-killer just like the troops did.
The Skink is actually good, but it's BR placement makes it being ignored since you can use Boskvark and Yistervark on 4.7 line-ups. The only downside of Skink is bad ammo choices of the 20mm autocannons while everything else around it has better ammo choices.
I think the biggest issue for the skink is the BR. British 5.0-6.0 is a bit barren and a lot of players don't want to play with only one vehicle being the highest in their lineup. Once you get above 6.0 there's just better options to use. It was more usable at 4.7
@@lukeskylicker AP rounds to pen a sherman... and bombs to be dropped from 200m away. well if you dont shoot the planes they might kill you - or if thats a PE8.
@@justinking8892 kinda yeah, you have to get up close and personal with that and side shoot them. Stock round vs the front of a Tiger and panther...yeeeaah...no thx
I'm one of those who were begging for the Skink, and it was sooooo great!. Then Gaijin instantly put it at 5.0 and now it's irrelevant. You'd see it a LOT more if it was 4.7 imo. I find it easy to aim too, the gun velocity is just right to me
Is it irrelevant though? It looks like a decent AA for 5.0. It might not be very good against tanks but it can still deal with some and i mean, its AA after all not a tank destroyer
Oh, it deals with planes very well, but people tend to go for other options that match the BR of their lineup like the bosvark, etc. My point being that you'd see it a lot more if it was 4.7
@@l.h.9747what makes it irrelevant is that the 5.0 br doesn't mesh well with the other tanks at the same stage of the British tank tree. The other vehicles in line with Skink are around 6.0-6.3 br, while most of the tanks just above it are around 4.7. So it's kind of stuck between being too high of a tier for the rest of your lineup, or being under tiered by a whole 1.0 br for the rest of your lineup. Really doesn't help that the Bosvark is just better in practically all aspects besides armor, is researched before the Skink, and .3 br lower.
They had it in a good spot at 4.7 where it had a good line up and then bumped it up to 5.0 because of the Bosvark and now its 1 of 3 vehicles at 5.0 for Britain the other 2 being a seafire and spitfire.
Skink was literally perfect in my 4.7 lineup with Avenger, Firefly and Churchill VII. Add some CAS (I used Typhoon) and you end up with my favorite low-mid BR lineup. But now they ruined it since there is no tanks at 5.0 in britain...
The skink was super good fun at 4.7 honestly, and fit in perfectly with my CH Crocodile, Firefly, Concept 3 and Churchill 7 lineup, now that it’s 5.0 you gotta either Up-BR and entire lineup to use it, or put it in uptiers. It’s not a fault of the tank being bad, or anything like that it’s just the BR change kind of killed it off.
@@Retrosicotte It's objectively better than the Wirbel though, completely enclosed turret, doesn't die to overpressure, enough hull armour to stop other autocannons, slightly less penetration but with full calibre AP rather than dogwater APCR. It shouldn't be 5.0, I wouldn't put it anywhere past 4.3, but saying its worse than the Wirbel is straight cap.
@@Retrosicotte enclosed turret means it cannot just be strafed to death. The guns on the Wirbel are better, but the chassis of the Skink is better. Point being that it’s too high in BR which we both agree on. I’d love it down at 4.0 for the line up as well but it needs to be useable at the 4.7 lineup at a minimum.
@@roadhigher Armor can't actually stop most other autocannons that use 20mm HVAP or better. All 23mm AP and over can essentially act as if the armor doesn't exist in the first place, and one common plane that I find myself fighting are DO335s. I also find it highly troubling that almost any good German fighter has at least one deployable fuck you button (a bomb), and less will to live than a Japanese pilot at the Battle of Leyte Gulf.
3:15 the Luftwaffe and any axis air force by the time the Skink arrived to the front Also that C.202 must've been running on mg's so props to him that madlad
I think people were expecting it to go in the US tree 'cause it's based off an American tank, but it got put in the British tree 'cause it was designed by Canadian forces. If it got put in the American tech tree, I think you'd see a lot more people play it.
i think a lot of people got kinda upset that the skink wasn't put in the US tree to fill out the terrible AA situation there, which is why it got kinda forgotten
Wouldn't mind Gaijin adding the skink to both trees tbh. Though it would be great if Gaijin added the t77e1 to the USA tree. It's a m24 spaa with 6 .50 cals.
@@morva4498 Agreed, I wasn't really expecting it in the US tree, but it would be pretty neat, would give me even more reason to play AA aside from the funny brrrt cannon
I love this goofy ah AA. But honestly the two vehicles I really wanted that I thought they’d never get around to adding were the B-26 Martin and the BT-42.
@@skittles6746 I'm not saying USA doesn't need better SPAA's. But that's no excuse to give them an SPAA that obviously should go to the UK tree. Give them something that belongs to them, I'm sure Americans have a ton to choose from, whether it's prototypes or whatnot.
@@synalra2388 kinda late but it should've been in US tree, why? because it using US made/designed tank, and it is canadian, M4A5 have similar story and it was put in US tree. and it was criminal that they put this in British tree.
Skink got added a bit too late amidst a whole lot of new SPAA for the UK tree which is why people mainly wanted it. UK was absolutely stuffed for SPAA options with both crusader AAs either being outright bad or just falling off really fast. Even adding Ystervark didn't help much because that thing is less protected than a milk truck and has insanely gimped aiming angles. So yeah, people wanted it in the UK tree specifically to provide at least some levity. And personally I use it a lot, though Bosvark might overtake that.
Same with the B26 marauder honestly. I wanted it in game for so long, and it gets added after I have multiple nations 11.3 jets. I went back and grinded the modules but low-mid tier air just doesn't feel the same way it used to.
@@sharpy3453 Britain didn't make the skink, Canada did. Also, the Canadian Sherman is in the USA tree. USA tree should get the m24 spaa with the 6 .50 cals.
@Spookston I think a part of the issue with the Skink and it's effectiveness has to do with the fact that it's high explosive shells are fragmentation based shells. They're HEF-I (if I remember correctly) so they aren't normal HE shells in the belt, meaning that the damage the shells do to anything is basically totally fudging randomized due to the fact that War Thunder makes fragment-based damage shells work off of something called "real shatter" of the shells. Real Shatter, at least from my understanding of it while screwing around in the damage protection analysis menu makes the number and direction of the fragments of every single shell that impacts a vehicle completely randomized and usually doesn't take into account the explosion from the explosive filler of the shell in the vehicle damage (at least for anything below 30mm in size).
for anyone curious or that doesn't already know about this (really, really dumb) mechanic in War Thunder, there's a few great vids on here that you can find regarding the topic.
The Skink is just a cool vehicle that you can’t see modelled in any other mainstream games that I’m aware of, so I know for me part of the desire to have it in game was to have it modelled and to be able to look at it in game. Like most new vehicles I just test drive it every so often when I’m bored, since I don’t have any desire to take the like 40k RP away from my top tier grind…
5:20 that’s me lmao, air superiority fighter ftw Edit: the C. 202 has a good ammo count, but am also try to conserve ammo to stay in the air as long as possible
To be fair if it wasn't 5.0 and the Ystervark and Bosvark hadn't been added I think it wouldve been more anticipated. As it is i think it was added in a fairly sparse patch (was it Danger Zone?) where people just focussed on the lack of original content. Besides, Gaijin definitely has it in for us Brit mains. Last BR patch and the refusal to listen to any feedback that might make British Aircraft even slightly better proves that.
A lot of the lack of playtime on the skink other than battle rating is probably the fact it's not in the US tree. I recall a lot of folks screaming about that on release
gonna be real with you. The protection on the Skink is phenomenal. 20mm's just bounce right off whenever I use it. Ik it's my opinion but.. It's better than anything else I've used!
I recall the Skink being requested to counter the Whirbel. It was an amazing AA that could double as a pseudo tank destroyer, and many Allied AA trees had nothing even close to being competitive against it at the tier.
honestly i love the skink because every time i take out a bosvark or yestervark i get strafed to death but the skink can withstand most machine gun fire and last longer
it's not about the AA being good, it's about it being a really cool AA/tank we wanted to see in game. i for one love it being in game and using it whenever i get the chance
@@firestarteronyoutube5542 Yeah basically, though if you're at 8.0 and you need to kill planes the chieftain marksman is a better option. Unless you don't have it yet then I guess the Falcon, don't know why they put a tank destroyer in the middle of the AA tree though...
@@commandoepsilon4664 because their tech trees have never made sense and they just lump AA and TDs together as "SPG/MGCs" since the lowtiers are just the same trucks with different cannons anyway
@@callsignapollo_ I intended that as a joke, the Falcon is an SPAA but at 8.0 with no form of tracking in game it is almost useless. But it keeps slowly increasing in BR because it is very dangerous to ground vehicles from the side, thus it is effectively a tank destroyer.
I believe that people (including me) who have wanted the skink in WT have already grinded to top tier, or have stopped playing the game and gone outside, but I was happy to see it, but I will probably use it when I can play the game for fun. Good video btw👍
@@tigertank1819 Firstly the only one of these that could fill the Skinks gap is the T85E1, which is also an even more open top vehicle then the M16, but it is really the only choice, especially because of its cannons. T77 = M16 with 2 more 50 cals, so meh, 50 cals are only decent around the M16 br, 4.0+ and they are pretty bad, the M16 with 4 50 cals is 2.7, so it would sit at 3.3 - 3.7, definitely does not fill in the Skink gap. T100 MGMC doesn't exist, I am guessing you mean T10E1? Still doesn't change anything, has the same cannons as the Skink, but it only has 2 of them, so it is basically a US Crusader AA at 3.7, although still worse because it is completely open top and a half track because it is on the same chassis as the M16.
I mainly don't play the Skink cuz I didn't buy it when I had the chance so now I have to research and buy the Bosvark, which is honestly a joke of a tank.
The only skink i remember seeing was one i shot at around to 2,5/3km away in my ikv91, it felt like killing an m22, you know you gotta do it, but you really dont want to. Game was pretty much finished, only like 2 guys left on the enemy team and i saw it going full speed across an open field so i did a hail mary... i hit its engine and transmission which brought him to a complete stop... i had to put him out of his misery after that. If that skink ends up seeing this, im sorry little one.
Honestly, it looks like a pretty fun vehicle (even tho the magazine is so small). Maybe the BR is slightly too high but if you lower it, the AP would obliterate the tanks. Btw, don't use AP against planes. You'll mainly do crits (at best). HE is the way
I like the skink. It's funny how often planes dive on you when they see that SPAA marker only to realize they can't do anything and they fell in to your trap.
My working theory is that most people who were asking for it were American players who had to play the absolutely terrible M42 and M19A1 but when it got added to the British tree those players didn't wanna grind Britian for it since they just wanted a good AA, not the Skink itself. It kinda makes sense they'd think it'd go in the US tree since the M4A5 is Canadian and also in the US tree
@@seangunn4772 I feel its that and the fact they uptiered it like a week in to 5.0 where the brits just don't have a line up, compared to the solid 4.7 lineup they have, so it lost its purpose basically instantly, which is a shame because the bosvark and ystervarrk are hot trash in comparison due to them being gimped overtired milk trucks. People just went back to using the 20mm crusader aa, while the skink became your aa if your playing in the 6.7 range.
I genuinely bawled my head off throughout the video. This was such stupid fun. Especially the conga-line of assists you got courtesy the C 202 Folgore pilot.
I would absolutely love this if it was in the American tech tree. I'm so sick of trying to hit aircraft with slow firing 40mm only for them to tank the hit anyway. Sometimes I bring the M16 and it actually works better than the m42 and m19. Also my brother in Christ you are firing AP at aircraft
Skink is one of the best additions to the game imo. Finally, we got a AA vehicle for the mid-tier British tech tree, it's a huge improvement compared to Crusader AA. It lacks armour-piercing capabilities but against the planes, it's a monster and you feel safe under fire. Btw Skink looks very good and futuristic.
Play the German AA halftrack with the 3 15mm autocannons. It's a useful vehicle. Also, it's the same BR as the Panzer IV F2 and and Panzer III M, which means it has a great lineup. [Panzer IV for the W] Edit: Ye... we can get shot through buildings now... and I don't mean the little wooden shacks. There is also a spot on the Japan map where You can shoot trough the rocks as they are not physically there, just visually.
There was a pre-production Skink that was armed with Hispanos in place of the Inglis guns it would have gotten (if MacArthur didn't issue a directive for 20x110 to go solely to aircraft). The iteration in game has the 20x110RB firing Polstens. The Hispano guns could be armed with AP Mk. III, essentially a comparable round to PzGr 40. In other nonsensical AA platforms, we did make 4x20mm, and 3x20mm armed CMP Ford F60S trucks with the Polsten gun.
you have to understand the focus and the meta of the game and the gaming community of back then to understand why we wanted it so much but now things are different, it's been like 4 years since the big hype
People wanted it because Britain had no AA between the crusader and the falcon Then they added it at 4.7 it was perfect for the British WW2 lineup - then they made it 5.0 which ruined it entirely, then they added the Bosvark almost immediately after so everyone uses that instead
I for one was absolutely ecstatic about this addition. Because I was using a 40mm bofors for a 6.7-7.3 lineup and it was the most painful thing ever trying to shoot down me262s with a 40mm. And since it was added, it's my AA vehicle from 5.0 to 7.7 (falcon is 8.0 now for some reason when gepard is also 8.0 which makes no sense) Actually yeah Spookson can you do a video trying to explain why the gepard is the same b.r as the falcon despite it being better is ever aspect? Thanks
Putting this at 5.0 just ensured no one would play it. I find the South African ones to be better against planes anyway. Also to answer the question at 6:20 yes the c202 has a LOT of ammo
I tried it out recently at 5.0 and 6.0 planes can literally fly faster than it's torrent speed ,and vertical speed meaning you have to make sure you know the plane don't waste your time with it .
With his constant bouts of mind-numbing incredulity and his regular, rapid descents into madness, Spookston is definitely my War Thunder spirit animal 🙃
My first kill in the Skink was a Panzer Iv/70, the round velocity is very different from the other SPAA's teaboos would be used to so re-learning how to lead aircraft takes some adjusting, but shruggin off hostile cas who haven't brought decent ground belts is always fun.
It's a great SPAA, it's a shame it was almost instantly moved to 5.0, it fitted perfectly with the Firefly and Avenger. Now you need to uptier it by a lot to get a decent lineup.
started myself the british tree not long long and noticed early on what a great perk it was to have a solid roof helping you to shield off Cas fire, something nations like Germany and America does not have at that Br, i doubt they are the best but they can pull it off pretty good against cas with their mostly good amor for AA's and being quite fast
@@Retrosicotte True, but Tea Tax so it has to be at least 1.0 BR above anything else comparable. Look at the Cent Mk1 getting turret nerfed to hell and then set at 6.0
@@ZomgRAWR93 Considering that it's much better than the Comet...it probably is. It's perfectly fine at 6.0. You have decent mobility (Good reverse!), pretty good armour and a gun that can pen close to everything and is easy to aim. Top that off with 12° of gun depression. The literal only downside of the tank is the small ready rack and the longer reload you will have to endure afterwards
Honesty the greatest advantage of the Skink is that it has a roof. It is amazing just for tanking strafing runs that would destroy or incapacitate all other SPAAs at its BR
Well in the meantime they've added Ystervark & Bosvark since Skink was requested. Back then there was only the Crusader spaa. I'm currently still grinding Bosvark
While putting it with Great Britain makes sense, I think a lot of people were hoping for it to be put in the US tech tree where there is a serious lack of mid-tier AAs
It definitely ticked me off as US main, all of low tier US SPAA are so unarmored they die to an errant fart when they have loaders all out in the open in m19 and m42, not to mention their broken fire rates and lackluster rpm/air saturation
@@Voxination Yeah, they just aren't very good SPAAs. Okay TDs but other SPAAs are better than them at even that. And its just the two of them from 2.7 to 7.0...
Bro the C.202 EC is so awesome. It gets 2 .50 cals and 2 german 20mms. .50 cals get like 700 rounds and the 20mms get like 500. That thing got ammo to spare.
That thing where vehicles just de-render has been happening to me recently too. It's especially shit when it happens to tanks you were just looking at then drive behind a building.
havent played this game for at least 2 years now, still remember that skink hype something about a actual aa tank that isnt just a glorified truck or tankette or so, i think
Everyone was asking for it back when there were shit options for AA for the Americans. Years and years ago. Also when the ZSU 37 was one shotting Tiger 2's from the front.
Skink has become my favorite SPAA simply because it has a roof. Half the kills you get from people strafing you for way too long and either crashing or being sitting ducks... It takes bomb blasts like a champ and the 20mm can do something against lightly armored tanks... Love playing it as a first spawn, killing the rushing light on the cap and shooting his Anger arse out of the sky right after xD
I heard a slight ping when you got shot in the side on the 2nd map. 2:02. Brings to mind the tiger quote from CoH 2 "I suppose if they were very lucky they could give us a headache with that HE rifle"
People were asking for the skink when the wirbelwind could lolpen everyone not driving a kv1. Allied “mains” wanted a counterpart, in fact they’re probably closer to equal now since the removal of the wirbelwinds hvap
That whole reaction to killing the Sherman 105 frontally is the same reaction I had killing an IS-2 from the front with the Flakpanzer 341 with only HE rounds. Just a "HUH? what??"
People say it was hyped as an "Allied Wirbelwind" but it was the armour I was always excited for. Yster & Bosvark are cool but the lack of any armour is a colossal disadvantage, so it's nice for Britain to have a *very* rough equivalent to stuff like the Coelian & Kugel. Plus y'know it because the quintessential meme tank somehow so that added crack into the hype stew. Had it stayed at 4.7 where it had a lineup then I think you'd see a few more, but at the end of the day it's a decent SPAA for a "minor-ish" nation so it was never going to be spammed enough to break the matchmaker.
I remember I fought one of these in my panther, my other friend in the tiger and this thing was bouncing practically all our shots, only finally killed it when I shot its transmission cover. In the right scenarios it can be weirdly durable.
the skink is the most terrifying anti air i see in battle, mostly because it has a roof
Yeah. The Crusader AA with the twin 20mm is the same way. Just enough armor to stop cannons most the time so people come into strafe you and it's free kills.
I tend to use the Bosvark because everyone dives on it to get their free kill, and if I don't suck that day they get obliterated by twin 23mm with 4x the explosive filler as the skink
That alone probably puts it among the best AA vehicles of its BR range simply because your not a sitting duck the moment a fighter spots you.
@@slowlydying6967 Plus is can actually kill tanks!
I really like the roofed AA, the AEC AA and Staghound are so fun. You don't need to worry about dying instantly to a strafing BF109!
I find it ironic that just like in real life, the skink arrived too late to be a viable AA so you use it as an everything-killer just like the troops did.
Then it should be added in enlisted 😈
@@bmac7643 😂😂😂😂 just mowing down everyone as they run from spawn point
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator it can be.
But you are correct. This isn’t irony. Just funny coincidence.
meat chopper moment
The Skink is actually good, but it's BR placement makes it being ignored since you can use Boskvark and Yistervark on 4.7 line-ups. The only downside of Skink is bad ammo choices of the 20mm autocannons while everything else around it has better ammo choices.
I think the biggest issue for the skink is the BR. British 5.0-6.0 is a bit barren and a lot of players don't want to play with only one vehicle being the highest in their lineup. Once you get above 6.0 there's just better options to use. It was more usable at 4.7
its deserves this BR bc its an unkillable SPAA for planes
@@nashaigra8973 sorry what, get better with your bombs and rockets.
@@nashaigra8973 Bombs don't exist apparently... or AP rounds.
@@nashaigra8973 yet the m42 Duster is at a higher BR and it's killable by planes without the use of bombs or Rockets
@@lukeskylicker AP rounds to pen a sherman... and bombs to be dropped from 200m away. well if you dont shoot the planes they might kill you - or if thats a PE8.
As others have said, we'd see a lot more of this thing if it was still 4.7
Agreed. I personally don't like 5.0 Britain since their tanks reverse so slow. I like using the firefly though, definitely one of the best Shermans.
Yeah, and now Gaijin want to raise it up to 5.3...huh??? In what universe is THAT thing 5.3....
@@GoldCraft55 shit man in what universe should a Jumbo be at 5.3 with a 75 mm cannon, thing is useless
@@justinking8892 kinda yeah, you have to get up close and personal with that and side shoot them. Stock round vs the front of a Tiger and panther...yeeeaah...no thx
@@morva4498 you have a lineup for 5.0???
I'm one of those who were begging for the Skink, and it was sooooo great!. Then Gaijin instantly put it at 5.0 and now it's irrelevant. You'd see it a LOT more if it was 4.7 imo. I find it easy to aim too, the gun velocity is just right to me
Is it irrelevant though? It looks like a decent AA for 5.0. It might not be very good against tanks but it can still deal with some and i mean, its AA after all not a tank destroyer
Oh, it deals with planes very well, but people tend to go for other options that match the BR of their lineup like the bosvark, etc. My point being that you'd see it a lot more if it was 4.7
@@l.h.9747what makes it irrelevant is that the 5.0 br doesn't mesh well with the other tanks at the same stage of the British tank tree. The other vehicles in line with Skink are around 6.0-6.3 br, while most of the tanks just above it are around 4.7. So it's kind of stuck between being too high of a tier for the rest of your lineup, or being under tiered by a whole 1.0 br for the rest of your lineup. Really doesn't help that the Bosvark is just better in practically all aspects besides armor, is researched before the Skink, and .3 br lower.
@@l.h.9747 it has poor accuracy and does not really survive bombs any better than anything else
@@MaliciousGrim05it’s at 6.0 now so it fits perfectly, except that they probably didn’t change it at all
They had it in a good spot at 4.7 where it had a good line up and then bumped it up to 5.0 because of the Bosvark and now its 1 of 3 vehicles at 5.0 for Britain the other 2 being a seafire and spitfire.
add to the fact that if you want to be usefull you will need to put in a 5.7 and 5.7 is often yeeted into 6.7 which is just a pain with UK
Skink was literally perfect in my 4.7 lineup with Avenger, Firefly and Churchill VII. Add some CAS (I used Typhoon) and you end up with my favorite low-mid BR lineup. But now they ruined it since there is no tanks at 5.0 in britain...
Why the hell did they uptier it? I don’t understand how it doesn’t fit 4.7
Gaijin deciding that the Brits must suffer:
@@Gearshoot every nation that isnt the US, Germany, *Especially China & Russia* sadly suffers because why not
My fellow Churchill VIII player
@@CatWithAOpinion not Russia top tier lol
The skink was super good fun at 4.7 honestly, and fit in perfectly with my CH Crocodile, Firefly, Concept 3 and Churchill 7 lineup, now that it’s 5.0 you gotta either Up-BR and entire lineup to use it, or put it in uptiers.
It’s not a fault of the tank being bad, or anything like that it’s just the BR change kind of killed it off.
They added it then immediate moved it up past the BR were it would be most useful. 4.7 UK is where it should be at.
It should be 3.3 really. It's just an objectively worse Wirbel, which is 3.7.
@@Retrosicotte It's objectively better than the Wirbel though, completely enclosed turret, doesn't die to overpressure, enough hull armour to stop other autocannons, slightly less penetration but with full calibre AP rather than dogwater APCR.
It shouldn't be 5.0, I wouldn't put it anywhere past 4.3, but saying its worse than the Wirbel is straight cap.
@@Retrosicotte enclosed turret means it cannot just be strafed to death. The guns on the Wirbel are better, but the chassis of the Skink is better. Point being that it’s too high in BR which we both agree on. I’d love it down at 4.0 for the line up as well but it needs to be useable at the 4.7 lineup at a minimum.
@@roadhigher Armor can't actually stop most other autocannons that use 20mm HVAP or better. All 23mm AP and over can essentially act as if the armor doesn't exist in the first place, and one common plane that I find myself fighting are DO335s. I also find it highly troubling that almost any good German fighter has at least one deployable fuck you button (a bomb), and less will to live than a Japanese pilot at the Battle of Leyte Gulf.
3:15 the Luftwaffe and any axis air force by the time the Skink arrived to the front
Also that C.202 must've been running on mg's so props to him that madlad
Well people wanted it as an Allied version of the Wirblewind but then they put it at a higher BR where it's not really needed
Fucking Russia.
@@TheAzureNightmareI wouldn’t blame Russia. I blame Germany players.
I think people were expecting it to go in the US tree 'cause it's based off an American tank, but it got put in the British tree 'cause it was designed by Canadian forces. If it got put in the American tech tree, I think you'd see a lot more people play it.
I feel like it was yesterday when people were begging for this thing.
When its devblog was released I didn’t even know people wanted it
It was 7 years ago mate.
i think a lot of people got kinda upset that the skink wasn't put in the US tree to fill out the terrible AA situation there, which is why it got kinda forgotten
Yeah I hated having to spade the m42 and m19
Wouldn't mind Gaijin adding the skink to both trees tbh. Though it would be great if Gaijin added the t77e1 to the USA tree. It's a m24 spaa with 6 .50 cals.
@@morva4498 Agreed, I wasn't really expecting it in the US tree, but it would be pretty neat, would give me even more reason to play AA aside from the funny brrrt cannon
@@Alldaboss Just get the AP belt and use them as an APC, m19 and m42 works wonders if you get a good flank.
I love this goofy ah AA. But honestly the two vehicles I really wanted that I thought they’d never get around to adding were the B-26 Martin and the BT-42.
whats a goofy ah?
@@Sercer25 some trendy meme thing and a way to say "goofy-ass" while also getting around profanity filters, if I'm not mistaken
@@moloti6254 I know, I just take every opportunity to ridicule zoomer ebonics.
@@Sercer25 As you should.
@@Sercer25and its goofy ahh
I feel like people expected the skink to be in the US tree for some reason and lost interest when they found out it was in the British tree
Exactly spot on. Same.
I have no idea why anyone expected that. It would have been a crime if it had been in the US tree
@@synalra2388 Britain has enough 20mm spaas. Americas 40mms are absolutely shit for taking out planes and the M16 can’t do shit against tanks
@@skittles6746 I'm not saying USA doesn't need better SPAA's. But that's no excuse to give them an SPAA that obviously should go to the UK tree.
Give them something that belongs to them, I'm sure Americans have a ton to choose from, whether it's prototypes or whatnot.
@@synalra2388 kinda late but it should've been in US tree, why? because it using US made/designed tank, and it is canadian, M4A5 have similar story and it was put in US tree. and it was criminal that they put this in British tree.
Skink got added a bit too late amidst a whole lot of new SPAA for the UK tree which is why people mainly wanted it. UK was absolutely stuffed for SPAA options with both crusader AAs either being outright bad or just falling off really fast.
Even adding Ystervark didn't help much because that thing is less protected than a milk truck and has insanely gimped aiming angles.
So yeah, people wanted it in the UK tree specifically to provide at least some levity. And personally I use it a lot, though Bosvark might overtake that.
Same with the B26 marauder honestly. I wanted it in game for so long, and it gets added after I have multiple nations 11.3 jets. I went back and grinded the modules but low-mid tier air just doesn't feel the same way it used to.
gaijin should have saved it for a commonwealth tree.
I think the skink should have been added to both the UK and USA trees.
@@morva4498 lol the usa does not need another vehicle it didn't make, there are plenty of its own vehicles that can be added
@@sharpy3453 Britain didn't make the skink, Canada did. Also, the Canadian Sherman is in the USA tree.
USA tree should get the m24 spaa with the 6 .50 cals.
@Spookston
I think a part of the issue with the Skink and it's effectiveness has to do with the fact that it's high explosive shells are fragmentation based shells. They're HEF-I (if I remember correctly) so they aren't normal HE shells in the belt, meaning that the damage the shells do to anything is basically totally fudging randomized due to the fact that War Thunder makes fragment-based damage shells work off of something called "real shatter" of the shells. Real Shatter, at least from my understanding of it while screwing around in the damage protection analysis menu makes the number and direction of the fragments of every single shell that impacts a vehicle completely randomized and usually doesn't take into account the explosion from the explosive filler of the shell in the vehicle damage (at least for anything below 30mm in size).
for anyone curious or that doesn't already know about this (really, really dumb) mechanic in War Thunder, there's a few great vids on here that you can find regarding the topic.
@@t_maxemthey reverted/fixed this problem recently so now cannons are good again
Was a great idea before they put in the SA line and so went from no SPAA to 3 all crammed together. Well, a tractor, a bus, and a sherman.
The Skink is just a cool vehicle that you can’t see modelled in any other mainstream games that I’m aware of, so I know for me part of the desire to have it in game was to have it modelled and to be able to look at it in game. Like most new vehicles I just test drive it every so often when I’m bored, since I don’t have any desire to take the like 40k RP away from my top tier grind…
Nobody plays it because there's no point uptiering the 4.7 lineup to 5.0 for it.
It was enjoyable at launch, and now it's meh.
5:20 that’s me lmao, air superiority fighter ftw
Edit: the C. 202 has a good ammo count, but am also try to conserve ammo to stay in the air as long as possible
To be fair if it wasn't 5.0 and the Ystervark and Bosvark hadn't been added I think it wouldve been more anticipated. As it is i think it was added in a fairly sparse patch (was it Danger Zone?) where people just focussed on the lack of original content.
Besides, Gaijin definitely has it in for us Brit mains. Last BR patch and the refusal to listen to any feedback that might make British Aircraft even slightly better proves that.
A lot of the lack of playtime on the skink other than battle rating is probably the fact it's not in the US tree. I recall a lot of folks screaming about that on release
Cheh every angry US mains.. it's not Americans x)
1:49 ITS NOT JUST ME! Thank christ I'm not the only one to get startled when I get hit.
I love how much energy and personality spooks has in the video, one of the best gameplay vids yet.
The Skink in the game looks alot like a Fallout 4 tank support vehicle against the Chinese at Anchorage
gonna be real with you. The protection on the Skink is phenomenal. 20mm's just bounce right off whenever I use it.
Ik it's my opinion but.. It's better than anything else I've used!
Yeah its a good vehicle, sucks that the BR is what's causing the issue for the SPAA.
I recall the Skink being requested to counter the Whirbel. It was an amazing AA that could double as a pseudo tank destroyer, and many Allied AA trees had nothing even close to being competitive against it at the tier.
honestly i love the skink because every time i take out a bosvark or yestervark i get strafed to death but the skink can withstand most machine gun fire and last longer
I know a big issue a lot of people had with the Skink is most of them assumed it would be put in the US tree because the RAM II is also
it's not about the AA being good, it's about it being a really cool AA/tank we wanted to see in game. i for one love it being in game and using it whenever i get the chance
I've seen tons of skinks, I think people use them at higher br's is why. I always see them at 7.3
mainly because until the Falcon that's probably your best option
@@firestarteronyoutube5542 Yeah basically, though if you're at 8.0 and you need to kill planes the chieftain marksman is a better option. Unless you don't have it yet then I guess the Falcon, don't know why they put a tank destroyer in the middle of the AA tree though...
@@commandoepsilon4664 because their tech trees have never made sense and they just lump AA and TDs together as "SPG/MGCs" since the lowtiers are just the same trucks with different cannons anyway
@@callsignapollo_ I intended that as a joke, the Falcon is an SPAA but at 8.0 with no form of tracking in game it is almost useless. But it keeps slowly increasing in BR because it is very dangerous to ground vehicles from the side, thus it is effectively a tank destroyer.
Gaijin should add it to the US tree as well. Then you would see people play the heck out of this because it beats playing the M16 or M42
Can you do a dedicated video for the M36? I love that tank. Quick and maneuverable with a great gun for 5.3.
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M36 is probably my favorite TD in america
I believe that people (including me) who have wanted the skink in WT have already grinded to top tier, or have stopped playing the game and gone outside, but I was happy to see it, but I will probably use it when I can play the game for fun. Good video btw👍
The second they said it would go to Britain all of my interest went to the t77mgmc which literally can't be bad
Same.
Was always hoping it would go to Britain, America has enough options to parity this.
@@tigertank1819 name them
@@aflyingcowboy31 T77 MGMC, T85E1 and T100 MGMC could all effectively fill the same gap as the skink
@@tigertank1819 Firstly the only one of these that could fill the Skinks gap is the T85E1, which is also an even more open top vehicle then the M16, but it is really the only choice, especially because of its cannons.
T77 = M16 with 2 more 50 cals, so meh, 50 cals are only decent around the M16 br, 4.0+ and they are pretty bad, the M16 with 4 50 cals is 2.7, so it would sit at 3.3 - 3.7, definitely does not fill in the Skink gap.
T100 MGMC doesn't exist, I am guessing you mean T10E1? Still doesn't change anything, has the same cannons as the Skink, but it only has 2 of them, so it is basically a US Crusader AA at 3.7, although still worse because it is completely open top and a half track because it is on the same chassis as the M16.
I mainly don't play the Skink cuz I didn't buy it when I had the chance so now I have to research and buy the Bosvark, which is honestly a joke of a tank.
We expected it to be 4.7 at most. The allies needed a counter to the wirbelwind in rb but the skink as it is feels neutered.
I honestly love the Skink. I have it in my 6.0 lineup
Same
Would love to see some Churchill VII gameplay, british pain incarnate
The only skink i remember seeing was one i shot at around to 2,5/3km away in my ikv91, it felt like killing an m22, you know you gotta do it, but you really dont want to. Game was pretty much finished, only like 2 guys left on the enemy team and i saw it going full speed across an open field so i did a hail mary... i hit its engine and transmission which brought him to a complete stop... i had to put him out of his misery after that. If that skink ends up seeing this, im sorry little one.
You can't call any tank ugly when you like the Australian benis tank
Honestly, it looks like a pretty fun vehicle (even tho the magazine is so small). Maybe the BR is slightly too high but if you lower it, the AP would obliterate the tanks.
Btw, don't use AP against planes. You'll mainly do crits (at best). HE is the way
I like the skink. It's funny how often planes dive on you when they see that SPAA marker only to realize they can't do anything and they fell in to your trap.
My working theory is that most people who were asking for it were American players who had to play the absolutely terrible M42 and M19A1 but when it got added to the British tree those players didn't wanna grind Britian for it since they just wanted a good AA, not the Skink itself. It kinda makes sense they'd think it'd go in the US tree since the M4A5 is Canadian and also in the US tree
Canadian stuff should be in the british tree, and yes I am incredibly biased as a UK main.
@@void5506 I agree, but that doesn't change that train of thought
@@seangunn4772 I feel its that and the fact they uptiered it like a week in to 5.0 where the brits just don't have a line up, compared to the solid 4.7 lineup they have, so it lost its purpose basically instantly, which is a shame because the bosvark and ystervarrk are hot trash in comparison due to them being gimped overtired milk trucks. People just went back to using the 20mm crusader aa, while the skink became your aa if your playing in the 6.7 range.
@@TheKulteska yeah Gaijin loves to make AA bad
I genuinely bawled my head off throughout the video. This was such stupid fun. Especially the conga-line of assists you got courtesy the C 202 Folgore pilot.
I would absolutely love this if it was in the American tech tree. I'm so sick of trying to hit aircraft with slow firing 40mm only for them to tank the hit anyway. Sometimes I bring the M16 and it actually works better than the m42 and m19. Also my brother in Christ you are firing AP at aircraft
Amen
But sadly it's not Americans
It's a Canadian hull and turret with British gun
Please start making videos about fictional war vehicles again, they were always my favorite on your channel
As a German main. That jagdpanzer was experiencing a German player moment.
German main you say? So happens that I have a delicious Koolaid for you and your friends ☠️☠️☠️☠️
Skink is one of the best additions to the game imo. Finally, we got a AA vehicle for the mid-tier British tech tree, it's a huge improvement compared to Crusader AA. It lacks armour-piercing capabilities but against the planes, it's a monster and you feel safe under fire. Btw Skink looks very good and futuristic.
Play the German AA halftrack with the 3 15mm autocannons. It's a useful vehicle. Also, it's the same BR as the Panzer IV F2 and and Panzer III M, which means it has a great lineup. [Panzer IV for the W]
Edit: Ye... we can get shot through buildings now... and I don't mean the little wooden shacks. There is also a spot on the Japan map where You can shoot trough the rocks as they are not physically there, just visually.
There was a pre-production Skink that was armed with Hispanos in place of the Inglis guns it would have gotten (if MacArthur didn't issue a directive for 20x110 to go solely to aircraft). The iteration in game has the 20x110RB firing Polstens. The Hispano guns could be armed with AP Mk. III, essentially a comparable round to PzGr 40.
In other nonsensical AA platforms, we did make 4x20mm, and 3x20mm armed CMP Ford F60S trucks with the Polsten gun.
you have to understand the focus and the meta of the game and the gaming community of back then
to understand why we wanted it so much
but now things are different, it's been like 4 years since the big hype
People wanted it because Britain had no AA between the crusader and the falcon
Then they added it at 4.7 it was perfect for the British WW2 lineup - then they made it 5.0 which ruined it entirely, then they added the Bosvark almost immediately after so everyone uses that instead
I for one was absolutely ecstatic about this addition. Because I was using a 40mm bofors for a 6.7-7.3 lineup and it was the most painful thing ever trying to shoot down me262s with a 40mm.
And since it was added, it's my AA vehicle from 5.0 to 7.7 (falcon is 8.0 now for some reason when gepard is also 8.0 which makes no sense)
Actually yeah Spookson can you do a video trying to explain why the gepard is the same b.r as the falcon despite it being better is ever aspect? Thanks
Idk but that at 6:28 looked epic with the Stuka sound and how he crashed
Putting this at 5.0 just ensured no one would play it. I find the South African ones to be better against planes anyway.
Also to answer the question at 6:20 yes the c202 has a LOT of ammo
I tried it out recently at 5.0 and 6.0 planes can literally fly faster than it's torrent speed ,and vertical speed meaning you have to make sure you know the plane don't waste your time with it .
With his constant bouts of mind-numbing incredulity and his regular, rapid descents into madness, Spookston is definitely my War Thunder spirit animal 🙃
the skink tank always kinda reminds me of a wasp. btw spookston can you play the ARL-44?
There are so many vehicles I want to ask spookston to play I think I’m just gonna stop and say hey spookston play every vehicle in war thunder plz
7:30 the hell
My first kill in the Skink was a Panzer Iv/70, the round velocity is very different from the other SPAA's teaboos would be used to so re-learning how to lead aircraft takes some adjusting, but shruggin off hostile cas who haven't brought decent ground belts is always fun.
It's a great SPAA, it's a shame it was almost instantly moved to 5.0, it fitted perfectly with the Firefly and Avenger. Now you need to uptier it by a lot to get a decent lineup.
"Why do people want the skink?"
Me, who remembers a certain "Potential History" video: Gee, I wonder why.
Please do the IS2 at it’s new BR or, use the BTR-ZD it’s pretty busted trust me.
started myself the british tree not long long and noticed early on what a great perk it was to have a solid roof helping you to shield off Cas fire,
something nations like Germany and America does not have at that Br,
i doubt they are the best but they can pull it off pretty good against cas with their mostly good amor for AA's and being quite fast
2:51 furry reenactment
That intro is gold and extremely accurate
Put it back down to 4.7 so it could actually be in a decent lineup. Boom, problem solved.
4.7 is way too high still for it. Wirbel is 3.7, and this is just worse than it.
@@Retrosicotte True, but Tea Tax so it has to be at least 1.0 BR above anything else comparable. Look at the Cent Mk1 getting turret nerfed to hell and then set at 6.0
@@ZomgRAWR93 Mk1 is an amazing 6.0 tank oO
@@racernatorde5318 No reason to have moved it from 5.7 though, yeah?
@@ZomgRAWR93 Considering that it's much better than the Comet...it probably is.
It's perfectly fine at 6.0. You have decent mobility (Good reverse!), pretty good armour and a gun that can pen close to everything and is easy to aim. Top that off with 12° of gun depression.
The literal only downside of the tank is the small ready rack and the longer reload you will have to endure afterwards
Honesty the greatest advantage of the Skink is that it has a roof.
It is amazing just for tanking strafing runs that would destroy or incapacitate all other SPAAs at its BR
I love your laughter man, its just so funny to hear
Well in the meantime they've added Ystervark & Bosvark since Skink was requested. Back then there was only the Crusader spaa. I'm currently still grinding Bosvark
I skipped that chonker. Still wonder if it’s worth my time to return to it.
I loved this tank when I was studying armored warfare...it was my first scratchbuilt conversion scale model.
While putting it with Great Britain makes sense, I think a lot of people were hoping for it to be put in the US tech tree where there is a serious lack of mid-tier AAs
It definitely ticked me off as US main, all of low tier US SPAA are so unarmored they die to an errant fart when they have loaders all out in the open in m19 and m42, not to mention their broken fire rates and lackluster rpm/air saturation
@@Voxination Yeah, they just aren't very good SPAAs. Okay TDs but other SPAAs are better than them at even that. And its just the two of them from 2.7 to 7.0...
@@Voxination No reason to be ticked off honestly as it had zero to do with America so it never would've came to the us tree
In keeping up with funny British vehicles I think you should do the tortoise next
Bro the C.202 EC is so awesome. It gets 2 .50 cals and 2 german 20mms. .50 cals get like 700 rounds and the 20mms get like 500. That thing got ammo to spare.
To be frank, it is nice to have something armored for once, unlike most other AA until like 9.0
New vehicles added to warthunder reminds me of when people talk about starting a UA-cam career. The window was 5-6 years ago now.
It's honestly great to hear how happy you are my man!
That thing where vehicles just de-render has been happening to me recently too. It's especially shit when it happens to tanks you were just looking at then drive behind a building.
Hey spookston just a quick comment, your video editing has 100% improved since when you started. Keep up the great work 👍
Id love to see you play the m56 Scorpion next, glorified glass cannon go kart with hesh is fun
3:50 how the hell is not having basic god damn fire extinguishers that 90% of tanks come with from the factory MY FAULT?
a large number of American tanks let you use the hull mg in war thunder, compared to the other countries, I know the M6A1 does too.
havent played this game for at least 2 years now, still remember that skink hype
something about a actual aa tank that isnt just a glorified truck or tankette or so, i think
Everyone was asking for it back when there were shit options for AA for the Americans. Years and years ago. Also when the ZSU 37 was one shotting Tiger 2's from the front.
As a wirbelwind enjoyer, I think the skink is a cool aa and I hope to grind it out soon.
I just want the 6 .50 cal chaffee lmao
As always meme-game is on point. You're pumping out great content lately Spook!
Skink has become my favorite SPAA simply because it has a roof. Half the kills you get from people strafing you for way too long and either crashing or being sitting ducks... It takes bomb blasts like a champ and the 20mm can do something against lightly armored tanks...
Love playing it as a first spawn, killing the rushing light on the cap and shooting his Anger arse out of the sky right after xD
This was an incredibly fun video to watch, it felt like everything was just nothing but giggle fuel
i like your voice, watching your vidz is really relaxing
I heard a slight ping when you got shot in the side on the 2nd map. 2:02. Brings to mind the tiger quote from CoH 2 "I suppose if they were very lucky they could give us a headache with that HE rifle"
People were asking for the skink when the wirbelwind could lolpen everyone not driving a kv1. Allied “mains” wanted a counterpart, in fact they’re probably closer to equal now since the removal of the wirbelwinds hvap
That whole reaction to killing the Sherman 105 frontally is the same reaction I had killing an IS-2 from the front with the Flakpanzer 341 with only HE rounds. Just a "HUH? what??"
People say it was hyped as an "Allied Wirbelwind" but it was the armour I was always excited for. Yster & Bosvark are cool but the lack of any armour is a colossal disadvantage, so it's nice for Britain to have a *very* rough equivalent to stuff like the Coelian & Kugel. Plus y'know it because the quintessential meme tank somehow so that added crack into the hype stew.
Had it stayed at 4.7 where it had a lineup then I think you'd see a few more, but at the end of the day it's a decent SPAA for a "minor-ish" nation so it was never going to be spammed enough to break the matchmaker.
Loved the editing in this one!
I love videos where you laugh and have fun like this
I remember I fought one of these in my panther, my other friend in the tiger and this thing was bouncing practically all our shots, only finally killed it when I shot its transmission cover. In the right scenarios it can be weirdly durable.