Was Van About to Beat Raven? Zoids: Chaotic Century

[@DHXRevenge713]

Honestly bro, youre the zoid youtuber ive been waiting for, another dope vid as always!

[@Viseak]

Cheers man, the supports seriously appreciated!

[@aaa-bm1fv]

Dude, Van had the entire Guardian Force Supporting him , Van knew at the end it was the clever way to take Down Raven Finally!!!. They Studied his previos battles and failures and came up with that strategy to take Raven Down.
At that Point i consider Van was about to win. Until Hilltz Said Nop!! Lol
Pd. Lizzy Stomped Ban Badly LOL
That's my Girl!!!!

[@ryanbelmont2676]

Yeah if Hiltz wouldn't have interrupted the fight, Van and Company would have won the fight simply because Raven was being stubborn and used up the majority of his good time with Shadow. Also, I know it's never shown or hinted at, but I would like to have seen or at the very least heard in New Century Zero if Van and Raven ever had a rematch and who the victor was in that battle.

[@Viseak]

Agreed, I really wish there were more little easter eggs hidden within New Century tieing it to Chaotic Century

[@SOLDIERSecondRateRaven]

You and I would get along great. I'm such a huge fan of classic Zoids too.

[@GeroniMomartinezMG]

This is the content i live for

[@abrahamwierda4172]

Hey! Where do you watch Zoids: Chaotic Century? I have been searching high and low for a decent stream.

[@RFDN0]

I agree with the fight on screen if it continued Van would have won.
Before Zoid Eve Raven had trouble handling the capabilities of the Genobreaker without shadow. He has the better Zoid overall but because of all of it's diverse capabilities it is difficult to use and master.
Van is pushing the limits of the Blade Liger and hitting it's wall. Unlike all of their earlier fights he knows what the Genobreaker can do. He has mastered the full capabilities of his Zoid by this point and in this particular fight has help.
That said these two are equals in skill by this point. In CC Raven was the better pilot. In Van's first win he had the counter zoid and got a quick experience dump which aided his natural skill and aid from Zeke which helped him more than Shadow did Raven. In the second win Van had surprise, some knowledge of the Genosaurer and a bonified miracle. Beginning of Guardian force Raven was likely skill overall better but Van was very close to the same level of skill. When Raven returns we see he honestly has not improved and he honestly continues to not improve just gain further experience with the Genosaurer while not being caught off guard. Then we get the genobreaker and now Raven has not only the better machine but surprise on his side. This is when Van hits his wall in skill and I would argue becomes Ravens equal in pilot ability. We even see this in feats Van pulls around this time such as Van creating a zoid graveyard like Raven had been shown to do multiple times. If they are in the same zoid and get equal time to practice they will be equals.
After Zoid Eve if the two were to fight Raven likely wins as he now has the experience to handle the genobreaker to negate the shadow those timelimit. That said Van understands fighting the Genobreaker to such a level that even with Raven's similar level of knowledge about the Blade Liger he can he can hang to capitalize on any mistake.
Any meaningful updates to the Blade Liger can and would make this fight more of a coin flip.
At this point I would say Raven likely has a 60% chance of winning against Van because of the numerous options avalible to the Genobreaker. It's not higher because the Shield Liger honestly has the tools to either negate or the speed to avoid all of those tools.

[@franciscolozada1059]

It's a though choice, van has been known to pull out victories and do the unexpected in a fight and use his head like the last fight with blade liger vs geno saure ,when pushed to a corner but he does allow his emotions to cloud his fighting skills at times causing him to loose. Raven is a far more superior pilot but he's also arrogant and cocky but when someone gets the best of him he gets angry and let's his anger get the best of him and fight reckless, even if it means going to a point of destroying his own zoid like he did to the Saber tooth tiger. To be honest I think the real battle is who has the most patience/tolerance out of the two before one snaps lol. It's though to pick a victor when they both are their own worst enemies lol

[@Viseak]

They really are and that makes them work so well as rivals.
It could've been such an easy win for Raven if he just dropped his ego at the door and went all out, but I guess it's in his character to be cocky a lof of the time haha

[@megagundamva2694]

@@Viseak That's So Raven for ya (ill see myself out)

[@heavydonkeykong5190]

The Death Stinger arc was awesome, but Hiltz is still a massive cockblock.
I'd say the Geno Breaker is definitely the strongest of the non-final boss Zoids by a considerable amount. The backup that Van receive from his friends I can see putting him over the edge, but I'm honestly not sure how much he would've been able to do in a one on one fight.

[@moonstone81gaming97]

Van only was going to win because Hiltz set Raven up to be defeated he showed Van in different episodes the weaknesses of the Genobreaker so that he would take Raven out which shows how scared Hiltz is of both Van and Raven, Hiltz believed he could set Raven up, than he would defeat Van, he arrogantly assumed he could defeat Van on his own but he was wrong as both are equally as dangerous to him and his plans for destruction

[@megagundamva2694]

i can see your reasoning but i feel Van is the Obviose one cuz well hello hes the main character. but i want to hear mor on the raven side but just cuz raven is my Fave pilot and Genobreaker is an all-time fave zoid but it be more interesting to see raven get out of this one ether he fights his way out or he uses his head to escape

[@fredlopez778]

Van would have won due to the power of anime

[@Viseak]

Yeah that’s pretty much what it’d come down to hahaha

[@franciscolozada1059]

Lol

[@McBeefySpecial]

Loved this! Off of chaotic century what are your thoughts on Stigma Stoller? 🤔

[@Viseak]

Absolutely love Stoller, his final fight with Bit even made it in to my top 10 Zoids battles
There’s just this atmosphere around his character and the Elephander I really enjoy

[@oz88og40]

I love the battle's between raven and van they have the best rivalry in the zoids universe.

[@manhunter433]

I'd also chalk this one to Van, Raven was running out of time fast. If not a victory for Van, a draw. Both the Geno Breaker and the Blade Liger out of commission.

[@GoldenSunAlex]

I think Raven would've finished Van off, personally. At that point he only has him left to deal with, and he knows he's on a clock so he'd have stopped playing around.

[@ismaelruiz2412]

i choose raven, he won many times before, and that lead me to think that he would won against van, once again. but nice analysis.

[@Sephivoiceactor]

What about the part where Reece implied that it was Ambient who helped upgrade the Geno Saurer into the Geno Breaker, when she mentioned that it was Red instead of Shadow's signature color of black? Or the fact it has claws..and do you remember what Ambeint was known for doing to Zoids? (He'd give them claws, spikes, etc) The question then becomes- what exactly happened? Shadow obviously went in there, but if Ambient also played a role, how? It would explain why Geno Breaker puts such a strain on Shadow though.

[@ChibiCosmos]

The colors of Genosaurer changed between cc and gf. As a kid I thought Ambient modified it in the lapse before Raven comes back.

[@megagundamva2694]

Yeah i love Raven probably my fave character in Chaotic century/guardian force but when he gets an OP zoids like Geno breaker he gets cocky and thinks he's God And no one can touch him same happened with Both his Saber tiger and especially Genosaurer. That Taking the hit form Gunsniper i admit was Just Dumb if not stupid on his part

[@The_Car_Show]

Due to Shadows power running low I doubt the final charged particle beam would be strong enough to overcome the blade liger.
Van was able to neutralise the Deathsaurers charged particle beam after all

[@aaa-bm1fv]

It was thanks to the Gravity cannon , not because of blade liger shield.
Raven with a wasted Geno breaker destroyed the DS shield tho...

[@kaiserblader2129]

Do more please. Did you get this idea from tgs anine and his yugioh anime was charater was about to defeat

[@bryceschilling9632]

Van got a little plot armor. lol

[@aaa-bm1fv]

I mean, against the Death Stinger yup. He did. But this battle was legit.

[@bryceschilling9632]

@@aaa-bm1fv it was. And it was cool.

[@MrDarksol]

This was reminding me a lot of these yugioh was this character going to win videos I have being watching, only difference is the animation in this is spotty at best but Van should definitely be the winner. Dude lost to Raven a bunch and it would only make a hell of a lot more sense if he won the duel, since as I said he did lose a bunch and in this case, it would be great set up for when the two teams up for the final battle. Also, it just works and he has been being a better pilot without Zeke. Nice short video on the fight, though I could tell there was a distain when the main villain just stopped he fight judging from your tone, which I agree it was a dick move and that Elden Ring reference......I am only going to say this once because wow that game is freaking everywhere, that means Van isn't maidenless lol! .......God that felt off so I will stop but again soild job!

[@Viseak]

I’ve seen one of those Yugioh videos while scrolling though my homepage but never ended up watching it, I think it might still be chilling in my watch later playlist. Seeing it definitely sparked my idea for this video though 😂
Who’s the youtuber that does them? I gotta check em out, absolutely loved the Yugioh anime, and still play the TCG here and there.
It does make a lot of narrative sense for Van to finally win against the Geno Breaker here, especially considering its Ravens sloppiest performance which Van should be taking advantage of. Ever since I first saw that episode as a kid I’ve been salty Hiltz interrupted the fight, but I will say it gave us one of my favourite scenes in the entire anime, which was Raven crying over Shadow. That still hurts man
Absolutely loving Elden Ring too honestly it lives up to all the hype, I’ve put over 100 hours into it hahaha

[@MrDarksol]

@@Viseak Damn and my friend just recently beat the game and got one of the endings and he spent I think a 177 or so hours lol. And the UA-camr is named TGS Anime.

[@deathsaurer123]

I will choose raven for the sole reason of his zoid being superior to van

[@Viseak]

That’s completely fair, the Geno Breaker is just a far superior machine and it’s hard to argue against that

[@Ally.Cat.252]

Shadow was an absolute beast.

[@The_Car_Show]

Due to Shadows power running low I doubt the final charged particle beam would be strong enough to overcome the blade liger.
Van was able to neutralise the Deathsaurers charged particle beam after all

[@Viseak]

He does neutralise the first Death Saurers charged particle beam, and only gets through the final one due to the velocity from the Gravity Canon
The Geno Breaker is shown to be far more powerful than the first Death Saurer, and we see the move used to neutralise that charged particle beam fail against Raven (when Van gets blown into the canyon)
So it’s pretty hard to say how he’d fair when shadows out of the picture, I guess if we take Hiltz literally, Raven ‘couldn’t even fire a charged particle beam’ without shadow, but I reckon that was more trash talk than anything haha
I still reckon Van would end up winning though

[@aaa-bm1fv]

Ban was due to neutralized that CPC due to the Gravity cannon. In no way he would survive the CPC that destroyed the DS shield