Good video. I wasn't aware that these Vicoustic panels are foam (I thought they were wood). *It's important to mention that 3 dimensional diffusion like these are ideally placed toward the back of the room. On the ceiling closer to the back wall, behind side surrounds on the side walls, and possibly on the back wall, on the outside of the rear speakers. If you use any diffusers in the front 2/3 of the room, they should be 2 dimensional.
Your suggestions are awesome. Multifuser DC3 presented here is made of EPS (Expanded Polystyrene) while our other diffuser Multifuser Wood MKII (also a 2-dimensional diffusor) is made of Solid Wood and Ply Wood.
Thanks! It's really hard to get a good pic of this room as it's so tall and the colors just don't come out well. It's possible I need to get a real photographer in there as well.. 😁.
Congratulations on the dedicated room. I see you use REW. Do you have measurements with all the acoustic treatment as of today? Can you put the .mdat file to see the acoustics of the room? It's just curious to see the ETC,Filtered IR,Waterfall,Spectrogram,RT60 ( Topt,T20,T30 ). written with translator Greetings
Just ordered a pack of four of these a few days ago. Will order more. Unfortunately I won't be able to put mine on the ceiling as it will interfere with my projector lens, so will get some others for the ceiling and put these diffusers on the wall to combat reflection points. Thanks for the video!
You're welcome and thanks for watching. when you get them in i'd test them out on the ceiling just to make sure, just by placing one there by hand. They aren't too deep and even flush mounted most projectors lens center should be below them.
Amazing video. Bought a set of these at audio advice plus the coupon. They look amazing besides the benefits since I have a really small room. Keep it with more videos.
I see you have your left and right speakers on the side of the screen instead of behind the screen. Do you prefer this placement instead of behind an acoustic transparent screen?
Great video. I was thinking about using some space coupling diffuser a live my listening position. Do you think they would work as well and the skyline diffusers?
Great video Steve, got a question for you, how important is it to re run room calibration such as ARC once you have made a drastic change to the rooms acoustic like this? Is it important to re run room correction and why? Thanks!
Hey Nick, it depends. You should a minimum verify the responses. On stronger reflections like on any of the side, rear, front walls you'd surely want to rerun it as you have a lot more energy especially on side and rear walls.
What I've learned is that the back wall is another great spot for them. Unless your main seating is close to the wall. If not, ideally, you want to place them on the outside of your rear speakers (in between the rear speakers should be absorbers). Also, placing them toward the rear of the room behind the side surrounds (side walls) is a good position.
I have different treatments on the back wall. You can use them on "some " areas of a back wall but you have to be careful where you put them. You need some absorption as well in specific areas.
How high is your ceiling? Wondering too the left to right distance of your atmos channels. It looks like they may be a bit more than a 30% angle but hard to judge from the youtube video. I imagine you would want to leave at least a foot spacing between speaker and diffusion panel?
Hey AJ. I have 12' ceilings. Those top mids are not active and the top front and top rear are closer inward. See ep 49. I do a lot of testing in this room.
I don't know that you should with the ceiling being so low. I'm in the same situation (7ft 8in ceiling). I'm halfway through my panel installation in my HT, and I'm going to buy some & try it out (see if sounds correct). I couldn't find any definitive info on it, but it is mentioned (by specialists) that you ideally want some distance away from them (ex. don't put them on the rear wall if your seating is close to it).
@@doublet147 There is definitely clear information online about sitting a certain distance away from any diffusion panels. Let's me know how your testing goes
@@Sukotto85 HT ceiling panel update: I tried them out and I personally chose to not keep them. The low mids sounded thick (less clear). The midrange exhibited similar characteristics, but only 50% of the time. It sounded like the inverse of quantization (pertaining to music) at times and with certain frequencies. I hope that helps. I'm sorry if that is not super clear. I am a retired audio engineer, and that's the most correct way I could describe it. Let me know if you have any questions. Also, I discovered a company that apparently creates a product similar in function (not exactly in appearance) that lessens the needed distance for the same outcome. I'm going to try them out next.
The room looks like it’s coming along nicely 😎 I was going to get some of the RPG Skyline foam diffusers recently for my relatively small room (16ft x 13ft x 8.5ft) but was worried they would be too close to my MLP, guessing there’s a sweet spot for distance to the diffusion in a small room?)
@@hometheatergurus Cool thanks! 7.5 ceilings are the norm here, so as long as you are on normal sofa/chair and not on a riser I guess that should work out fine 👍
I really love those diffusors but man, they're so overpriced it's not even funny. Bit the bullet and made my own 20x20 panels for like $30 each all-in. If I had the disposable income and/or hated money, I'd buy these though.
I made primitive root panels Theyre actually not hard to make The maths was the easy part Just google primitive root calculator. The hard part was cutting and sanding so they end up the same width and correct length . Takes a while though. But worth it
Good video. I wasn't aware that these Vicoustic panels are foam (I thought they were wood). *It's important to mention that 3 dimensional diffusion like these are ideally placed toward the back of the room. On the ceiling closer to the back wall, behind side surrounds on the side walls, and possibly on the back wall, on the outside of the rear speakers. If you use any diffusers in the front 2/3 of the room, they should be 2 dimensional.
That is true!
Your suggestions are awesome. Multifuser DC3 presented here is made of EPS (Expanded Polystyrene) while our other diffuser Multifuser Wood MKII (also a 2-dimensional diffusor) is made of Solid Wood and Ply Wood.
I have these all over the ceiling of my theater room. Love em. Killer theater dude!
Thanks!!!
So jealous of that room. Looks like a very nice space to be in, not just a black mancave but it has some warmth to it. Super nice👌
Thanks! It's really hard to get a good pic of this room as it's so tall and the colors just don't come out well. It's possible I need to get a real photographer in there as well.. 😁.
Congratulations on the dedicated room.
I see you use REW.
Do you have measurements with all the acoustic treatment as of today?
Can you put the .mdat file to see the acoustics of the room?
It's just curious to see the ETC,Filtered IR,Waterfall,Spectrogram,RT60 ( Topt,T20,T30 ).
written with translator
Greetings
Just ordered a pack of four of these a few days ago. Will order more. Unfortunately I won't be able to put mine on the ceiling as it will interfere with my projector lens, so will get some others for the ceiling and put these diffusers on the wall to combat reflection points. Thanks for the video!
You're welcome and thanks for watching. when you get them in i'd test them out on the ceiling just to make sure, just by placing one there by hand. They aren't too deep and even flush mounted most projectors lens center should be below them.
@@hometheatergurus Thanks! Yea I was gonna do just to be sure. I really want to install them on the ceiling. Hopefully it will work out.
Your channel is full of important information and clear straight to the fact inform, really love your channel keep up the superb good work
Amazing video. Bought a set of these at audio advice plus the coupon. They look amazing besides the benefits since I have a really small room. Keep it with more videos.
Thanks Joao!!!
Great videos, one of the best for all home theatre information :D Keep doing what you are doing.
Thanks Tech!!!
5:50 I always get worried some diode goes bad and causes heat when the fail. I kept everything away from even my LED lights.
The transformer for these is actually above the ceiling in a single gang box with a cover.
Those look amazing. What about the star ceiling?
Damn.. yeah I forgot about that... I do wanna do that in the future at least on the dropped front half. I'll be done one day.. maybe...:)
I see you have your left and right speakers on the side of the screen instead of behind the screen. Do you prefer this placement instead of behind an acoustic transparent screen?
Hey Jeremiah. It's all about angles.
ua-cam.com/video/L_z0NM9GryM/v-deo.html
What's the theory about the location of these in the ceiling? 1st reflection points and above MLP area?
Would like to have seen REW measurements before and after such treatment.
Great video. I was thinking about using some space coupling diffuser a live my listening position. Do you think they would work as well and the skyline diffusers?
Thx Steve for the great video!
You're welcome buddy!!!
could my room (2,10m height) sound bigger in height with atmos speakers and diffusers over my head?
What is the thicknesses of the diffuser u used on ceiling
It's link is in the description and should have size specs.
Great video Steve, got a question for you, how important is it to re run room calibration such as ARC once you have made a drastic change to the rooms acoustic like this? Is it important to re run room correction and why? Thanks!
Hey Nick, it depends. You should a minimum verify the responses. On stronger reflections like on any of the side, rear, front walls you'd surely want to rerun it as you have a lot more energy especially on side and rear walls.
@@hometheatergurus thanks Steve
I glued mine. Wishing now I saw you do it before I did mine. I feel dumb now :)
Yeah I didn't wanna do that but I did think about it.
Is putting on the ceiling better than on the back wall? I have an angled ceiling, wondering if back wall would be better
What I've learned is that the back wall is another great spot for them. Unless your main seating is close to the wall. If not, ideally, you want to place them on the outside of your rear speakers (in between the rear speakers should be absorbers). Also, placing them toward the rear of the room behind the side surrounds (side walls) is a good position.
I have different treatments on the back wall. You can use them on "some " areas of a back wall but you have to be careful where you put them. You need some absorption as well in specific areas.
How high is your ceiling? Wondering too the left to right distance of your atmos channels. It looks like they may be a bit more than a 30% angle but hard to judge from the youtube video. I imagine you would want to leave at least a foot spacing between speaker and diffusion panel?
Hey AJ. I have 12' ceilings. Those top mids are not active and the top front and top rear are closer inward. See ep 49. I do a lot of testing in this room.
Great video! How tall is your ceiling? I would like to install some of these on my ceiling, but unfortunately, my ceiling is only 7.5ft tall
I don't know that you should with the ceiling being so low. I'm in the same situation (7ft 8in ceiling). I'm halfway through my panel installation in my HT, and I'm going to buy some & try it out (see if sounds correct). I couldn't find any definitive info on it, but it is mentioned (by specialists) that you ideally want some distance away from them (ex. don't put them on the rear wall if your seating is close to it).
@@doublet147 There is definitely clear information online about sitting a certain distance away from any diffusion panels. Let's me know how your testing goes
@Sukotto on 2d panels there is, but there is nothing specific on 3d panels. I'll update with my personal perspective.
Mine is 12' but with 7.5' you're still 4.5' away so I'd go for it.
@@Sukotto85 HT ceiling panel update: I tried them out and I personally chose to not keep them. The low mids sounded thick (less clear). The midrange exhibited similar characteristics, but only 50% of the time. It sounded like the inverse of quantization (pertaining to music) at times and with certain frequencies. I hope that helps. I'm sorry if that is not super clear. I am a retired audio engineer, and that's the most correct way I could describe it. Let me know if you have any questions. Also, I discovered a company that apparently creates a product similar in function (not exactly in appearance) that lessens the needed distance for the same outcome. I'm going to try them out next.
The room looks like it’s coming along nicely 😎
I was going to get some of the RPG Skyline foam diffusers recently for my relatively small room (16ft x 13ft x 8.5ft) but was worried they would be too close to my MLP, guessing there’s a sweet spot for distance to the diffusion in a small room?)
Thanks Paul! Yeah you do need 4' or more for them to work as intended.
How high ceilings do you need?
If you are 4' or more from them they'll work well.
@@hometheatergurus Cool thanks! 7.5 ceilings are the norm here, so as long as you are on normal sofa/chair and not on a riser I guess that should work out fine 👍
The video gets cut mid sentence, where is the flow towards the nect scene?
not sure what you mean.
$500 for styrofoam is highway robbery.
I really love those diffusors but man, they're so overpriced it's not even funny. Bit the bullet and made my own 20x20 panels for like $30 each all-in. If I had the disposable income and/or hated money, I'd buy these though.
I made primitive root panels
Theyre actually not hard to make
The maths was the easy part
Just google primitive root calculator.
The hard part was cutting and sanding so they end up the same width and correct length .
Takes a while though. But worth it
I bet it was worth it and DIY is very rewarding! Thanks for watching Isaac.