The Mexican War of Independence

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    1:14 Which was another colonial role appointed by the monarch.
    1:25 Intendencies became used only after the bourbon reforms and mostly took power from the captaincies general.
    1:25 Captaincies general was the head of the audiencias but also the head of other governmental powers like local military for example.
    In general at the start of the video I am talking about the colony after the Bourbon reforms.
    2:46 Of course the people from Spain had usually higher status then the people from elsewhere in Europe but they both where on top of the casta system.
    3:00 In the early colonial period the word Criollos was used for all people born in america whether white or native or African however it later became to be used for only European descendence born in America.
    5:13 Highest portion of Slaves was in Cordoba at 20 %.
    5:14 However even though slavery wasn't really used endangered servitude still was.
    7:27 And even though the Bourbon reforms tried to diminish this power of the church it didn't really work.
    7:50 OK the French didn't control the whole peninsula but it was just easier to draw it like this.
    8:30 City councils where the cabildos mentioned prior in the graphic showing the administration divides of the colony.
    10:00 There where insurgencies against Spain before Hidalgo but Hidalgo is counted by historian as the start of the independence movement.
    10:39 The reasons Hidalgo may have done this.
    1. The terrain of the city he was coming from was mountains and therefor easily defended by the Spanish.
    2. Hidalgo feared the mass pillaging, looting and killing that would happen in the city ones his army took it.
    3. Hidalgo knew his army drastically outnumbered the Spanish but he also new it was ilequipped, poorly armed and always suffered drastic casualties when fighting trained Spanish troops, and Mexico city had the most skilled Spanish troops in the colony guarding it. He may have thought he just wouldn't be able to win.
    14:40 There where actually two main treaties declaring independence the Plan de Iguala (which is the original three guarantees plan) and the Treaty of Córdoba which expended on the Three Guarantees plan. These two are usually cited together as they deal with the same thing and are obviously just an extension of each other.
    15:13 He technically didn't escape to Spain but was absolved of his duties by the Royalists who still thought they could fight Iturbide . The royalists however quickly followed him as it became very clear that the revolutionaries had won.
    17:05 Ironically these republicans which wanted to enforce the abolishment of the casta system are thought to have been supported by the USA.
    18:06 Technically they where allowed the right to determine their own destiny by the Mexican Republican Government (they chose independence) but a majority of Mexicans where against this, calling it an illegitimate declaration of independence.
    #Mexico #History #ProjectRevolution

КОМЕНТАРІ • 645

  • @MLaserHistory
    @MLaserHistory  5 років тому +126

    The playlist of Project Revolution- bit.ly/Project_Revolution

    • @johnnyfives5416
      @johnnyfives5416 5 років тому +2

      Can you do a video on Brazil on how it became a monarchy after independence and then from a republic

    • @palarjones
      @palarjones 4 роки тому

      Can you learn how to speak like you’re not taking a crap? Hope you’re not a teacher. Monotone and boring!

    • @nekiboyou636
      @nekiboyou636 2 роки тому

      I wish Philippines gain independence from Spain in 1950

    • @henrywhittaker2519
      @henrywhittaker2519 2 роки тому

      Nice work ! Very interesting,

    • @jonathanlafuentes7195
      @jonathanlafuentes7195 Рік тому

      Your a lair

  • @UsefulCharts
    @UsefulCharts 5 років тому +660

    Wow. I learned so much from this video. I didn't realize how little I knew about Mexican history.

    • @ferrjuan
      @ferrjuan 5 років тому +18

      UsefulCharts u should do a chart about the Emperors of Mexico 🇲🇽 it might be your shortest chart ever! And one chart on who would be Emperor of Mexico if the Mexican Empire was restored cuz I think Agustín de Iturbide had issue, I don’t know about Maximilian having any issue.

    • @AztecResistance
      @AztecResistance 5 років тому +9

      Juan Ferreira most Mexicans saw Maximilian as a foreign usurper and wanted him dead.

    • @ferrjuan
      @ferrjuan 5 років тому +11

      Pill Cosby not really it depended whether you were a liberal or a conservative. If u were liberal u supported Juarez and the Republicans but if u were conservative u supported the monarchy with it came support from the Catholic Church which was very anti-Juarez. With the country being mostly Catholic lots of devoted Catholics supported the Maximilian monarchy. My own family was divided at that time with my mother’s family supporting the monarchy and the conservatives while my father’s family supporting the liberals and Juarez. In other words it was a very complicated time in Mexican history.

    • @deltharion
      @deltharion 4 роки тому +1

      Hey, I dare you to seach the actual Mexican emperor of the house of inturbide and make a video about that, difficult challenge I guess

    • @DavidJurado
      @DavidJurado 4 роки тому +3

      @@ferrjuan Maximiliano was even more liberal than Juarez btw

  • @iammrbeat
    @iammrbeat 5 років тому +587

    This was epic. I'm going to have to show this one to my students.

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 5 років тому +24

      Oh yes, and please consider showing them that one about the origins of the Good King Wenceslas carol before Christmas because that video is amazing.

    • @kaiserwilhelmii9281
      @kaiserwilhelmii9281 5 років тому +4

      Oh hello Mr beat.

    • @azoz-so5qr
      @azoz-so5qr 5 років тому +2

      Mr Beat Mr Beat

    • @mexicanmapper5064
      @mexicanmapper5064 5 років тому +5

      PLEASE DO!!

    • @jackievallesillo9056
      @jackievallesillo9056 4 роки тому

      That was wholesome

  • @tonyjesus1657
    @tonyjesus1657 5 років тому +251

    oh my gosh, y'all know how rare videos focused on Mexican Independence are on YT?? Thanks

  • @richardquiroz4808
    @richardquiroz4808 3 роки тому +63

    Fun fact: The town of Goliad, Texas is named after Father Hidalgo as an anagram. Since the pronunciation of "H" is silent in the Spanish language, it was never used when coming up with "Goliad".

  • @mexicanmapper5064
    @mexicanmapper5064 5 років тому +140

    Facts 😭😭
    This is such a good video and a long awaited one for the entire history of youtube no video ever came close to describing this topic so good!!! Please do more mexican history videos!

  • @roninjolin7687
    @roninjolin7687 3 роки тому +80

    I am Salvadoran American and lately I've been digging more and more Mexican culture and history. When I was a kid I was confused and hated ranchera music, I don't know why but now that Im growing up I really appreciate Mexican music. Thanks for this video

    • @peragallo
      @peragallo 3 роки тому +20

      You can appreciate Mexican history, AND hate ranchera music, as many Mexicans (myself included) do.

    • @QuantumNoir
      @QuantumNoir 2 роки тому +5

      Ranchera music is excellent.

    • @alfred5394
      @alfred5394 2 роки тому +4

      I am hate the ranchera music

    • @kidfox3971
      @kidfox3971 2 роки тому +1

      @@peragallo Definitely not Mexican, you speak more English than "Oh sorry, no speak English".

    • @Daneiladams555
      @Daneiladams555 Рік тому

      try son jarocho, Mexican folk

  • @thebiss1846
    @thebiss1846 2 роки тому +108

    I cannot imagine the constant struggle Mexico went through to just exist. It baffles me that none of my history classes ever touched upon Mexico & what it went through.

    • @ichbinberliner
      @ichbinberliner Рік тому

      😅😅😅 21:01

    • @Thomaas551
      @Thomaas551 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ichbinberliner?

    • @laurancerobinson
      @laurancerobinson 9 місяців тому +7

      Well it makes sense, history class is only so many hours per school year and there is a lot to cover. Each curriculum is tailored to what is seemingly important to your administrative area.
      In my schooling, we learned a lot about viking and manx history, but I live in Finland now and they don't teach either of those here. It isn't seen as applicable.
      Did I get some Mexican history... Only very little and only for the 3 month block of my GCSEs that related to the American West.

    • @kidfox3971
      @kidfox3971 9 місяців тому

      Because Mexico, unless you're involved in the drug business, isn't an important country.

    • @Doberdobax
      @Doberdobax 5 місяців тому

      Are you university now? How you going bro?

  • @Lin-De
    @Lin-De 5 років тому +344

    Mexico: in chaos
    US: It's free real estate

    • @atormentaalmas4269
      @atormentaalmas4269 4 роки тому +36

      No hay problema los estamos reconquistando 2019

    • @americanroyalist6905
      @americanroyalist6905 4 роки тому +13

      AtormentaAlmas y los centro americanos los están conquistando a ustedes 😂

    • @skeptic781
      @skeptic781 4 роки тому +2

      @Valmar Hispaniae After that America got wayyy richer than mexico

    • @matthewgarcia6829
      @matthewgarcia6829 4 роки тому +9

      @@skeptic781 and thats on the California gold rush

    • @skeptic781
      @skeptic781 4 роки тому +2

      @@matthewgarcia6829 industry and other factors aswell. I could go into more detail should you so wish.

  • @foedustriplex4014
    @foedustriplex4014 5 років тому +146

    Points to mention.
    1. Hidalgo most likely retreated because as you noted on point two, he fear mass pillaging, looting and killing , which was happening most of the time and his generals were concern with the non existing organization of the army that had allowed those acts which debilitated the movement, so much so that prominent General Ignacio Allende thought of killing HIdalgo. Also a major reason why Iturbide did not join the rebellion.
    2. When Iturbide was made Emperor the first congress instead trying to put out policies to organize the country, was planing to assassinate him, so he disbanded the congress once he heard of this, however the second congress did not help either, which negated him his abdication. He wanted to abdicate because he wanted the hostilities to end. Once Guerrero, Guadalupe Victoria, Antonio Lopez de Santa Ana swore allegiance and even were members of his government turn on him.
    3. Iturbide return to Mexico because he heard that Spain was planning to invade Mexico and he wanted help against the reconquista. In 1829 Spain sent an expedition force from cuba to Mexico how ever they were defeated. Note to mention the fortress of San Juan de Ulua In Veracruz was still control by Spain up until 1825. Mexico plan to take control of Cuba however in the battle of Mariel Mexico was defeated by Spain.

    • @mennoltvanalten7260
      @mennoltvanalten7260 2 роки тому +7

      Adding to 1, his army likely also decreased in size because of logistics. Feeding an army of 100.000 men is very hard, likely impossible for any long time, without railroads or at least trucks. Thus it would have to be decreased in size as the foodstuffs soldiers had brought with them started to run out.

    • @polishherowitoldpilecki5521
      @polishherowitoldpilecki5521 4 місяці тому +1

      Mexico such a wasted opportunities.
      A fascinating and beautiful country

  • @StefanMilo
    @StefanMilo 5 років тому +137

    What a dramatic ending! He's the Ned Stark of Mexico. Great video

  • @HikmaHistory
    @HikmaHistory 5 років тому +66

    Really enjoyed re-learning about this! I was trying to connect Mexico's struggle with Bolivar's in Gran Colombia. Super interesting stuff, dude!

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  5 років тому +13

      Honestly the situation played out very similarly in Mexico as it did in Columbia and Venezuela with Bolivar.

    • @pottertheavenger1363
      @pottertheavenger1363 4 роки тому +10

      It's sort of a cultural divide and alienation between Mexico and South America, as we don't share historical heroes or ethnic backgrounds

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory 4 роки тому +4

      @@pottertheavenger1363 interesting

  • @roberthipolito1351
    @roberthipolito1351 5 років тому +50

    Side note for any that might not know much about Mexican history-
    Honestly it’s quite a hassle trying to find the exact or definitive story of events. Mostly because there tends to be diverse or conflicting versions of what happened.
    Prime example the father of independence himself, all his portraits are fake. There were never any accurate portrait of him made while he was alive. All existing imagery is based from vague descriptions of him, or entirely made up.
    Also there are many instances where most of what was recorded in the books was actually written down a generation or 2 after the actual events had occurred. And like with the portraits, based from vague, sometimes subjective, recounts of the events.
    Anyways great video, summarizes the independence well.

    • @stereorapier7919
      @stereorapier7919 5 років тому +6

      If I remember correctly there is actually an accurate depiction of Hidalgo, there is a tiny clay statue in a museum which if I remember correctly was made by a follower of him. However yes most portraits of him were made up during Maximilian's reign if I remember correctly.

  • @elguerotapatio9258
    @elguerotapatio9258 4 роки тому +86

    The fact that Mexico had such a shitty time existing for a whole century, it's a miracle how well off Mexico is nowadays. At least the standard of living in many areas is comparable to some more well-off countries, aside from the drug cartels.

    • @hectorvega621
      @hectorvega621 3 роки тому +4

      Well the Drug war doesn't seem to be ending soon.

    • @Nonamelol.
      @Nonamelol. 3 роки тому +4

      @@hectorvega621 Seems like your dumbass didn’t read his comment

    • @g_g1241
      @g_g1241 2 роки тому +32

      @@hectorvega621 Its because its not entirely Mexico´s fault, the drug addiction in the US keeps demanding drugs to come from Colombia to Mexico all the way to the US

    • @hectorvega621
      @hectorvega621 2 роки тому

      @@Nonamelol. I think you need to reread the comment first before you project yourself onto someone.

    • @hectorvega621
      @hectorvega621 2 роки тому +16

      @@g_g1241 I know. The US has to much influence, they force Latin America into the Drug Wars, and then complain about Asylum seekers. The US needs to end it's Drug Wars, same for all of Latin America. However there is more than just the Drug Wars, but getting that out of the way is a step in the right direction.

  • @dostma1
    @dostma1 2 роки тому +14

    Thank you for the video. Mexico is such a large country with a significant culture heritage, so don't hesitate to make even longer video for people like me, who want to understand the people and culture more.

  • @darioguerra3065
    @darioguerra3065 5 років тому +60

    Mexican Revolution of the 1910s next?

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  5 років тому +22

      Sadly no. Maybe in the future at some point.

  • @ae-cp9tr
    @ae-cp9tr 5 років тому +301

    Que curioso que termine aprendiendo acerca de la historia de mi país en un vídeo en ingles xD

    • @selaud3229
      @selaud3229 5 років тому +15

      Al final se resume en ganas de tomar el poder. Por peninsulares y criollos. Es curioso k Los unionistas eran en su mayoria mulatos y mestizos y Los independentistas penisulares y criollos. Al final una de los estados mas poderosos y avanzados del mundo, como lo fue nueva españa se ha convertido en un autentico desastre. Como la mayoria de Los estados americanos post indepencia.

    • @PrymalDyno
      @PrymalDyno 4 роки тому +2

      Sorry I don't speak taco.

    • @AsatorIV
      @AsatorIV 4 роки тому +28

      @@PrymalDyno Then maybe you should stay out of the discussion.

    • @AsatorIV
      @AsatorIV 4 роки тому +14

      Sí, cada vez es interesante aprender más sobre su país a traves los ojos de alguien de un país diferente. Y desgraciadamente a veces estos videos en UA-cam son mejor que clases de historia en la escuela, donde no hay tiempo para explicar el contexto. Saludos cordiales a México desde la República Checa!

    • @dracolector
      @dracolector 4 роки тому +5

      @@AsatorIV saludos desde Guadalajara mx !!

  • @danielsonski
    @danielsonski 4 роки тому +37

    I love the mention of "The averagely sized Frenchman: Napoleon"

  • @MyOwnBummer
    @MyOwnBummer 3 роки тому +13

    Finally a good video about the War of Independence in english. Thank you !! 🇲🇽🇺🇸

  • @nikofrost
    @nikofrost 5 років тому +40

    As one who teaches history to Florida students, I will be recommending the first part of this video- where you explain some of the culture and the casta system, to anyone who wants to understand it in a few minutes. If you do re-edit parts of this video, then this first part, with a Florida history tag added to the description, would probably be a popular video. Either way, good info, thanks!

    • @michaelducey1133
      @michaelducey1133 3 роки тому +1

      Please don't use it for what you say, the caste system really did not exist. At least not as a racially determined social pyramid. You want proof, take a look at José María Morelos y Pavón, one of the most important independence leaders, he had portraits done when he was alive so we have a good idea of what he looked like. He was classified a "Spaniard". The term criollo existed but was never used by anybody who didn't want to be insulting.

    • @nikofrost
      @nikofrost 3 роки тому

      @@michaelducey1133 Is there a book which explores this, or is this a personal hypothesis?

    • @michaelducey1133
      @michaelducey1133 3 роки тому +2

      @@nikofrost If you want to use a beautiful book on the caste issue look up Ilona Katzew, Casta Painting. Images of race in eighteenth century Mexico. It is a study of the art work that popularized the idea of Castas during the 1700s. And it has fantastic paintings your students will love to see. There is a short little history of independence by Timothy Henderson, The Mexican war of Independence and it is a reasonable brief treatment of the topic. Personally I think it oversimplifies the issues and especially the nature of popular participation in the war but it is succinct. On the issue of race and caste in Mexico there have been many works that point out the problems with equating casta status (that is to say where you were assigned in the Caste system) with race and equating Casta status with class. See Rodney Anderson "Race and Social Stratificacion: A comparison of Working Call Spaniards, Indians and Castas en Guadalajara in 1821" in the Hispanic American Historical Review, 1988 which pretty much shows that casta designations did not correspond to economic position. My favorite recent study is by José González, Mestizaje de Papel which is a study of parish records in one town in Michoacan and what he found is that people were assigned "casta" status according to the whims of the priest or families. So that in fact you had individuals whose parents would be categorized as Indians but the kids could be Spaniards. Priests did this because they could charge more for a baptism of a Spaniard than for an Indian (priests lived off the fees for their services oftentimes.) So that makes the entire casta determining something like the war of independence problematic. That book is in Spanish but other historians have also tackled this issue, Patricia Seed, William Taylor and John Chance (Chance has an entire book on the topic, Race and class in Colonial Oaxaca.) So no, this in not my personal opinion.
      I think the author of the youtube probably read John Lynch The Spanish American Revolutions, and picked up the casta argument. But the book is pretty old and inspired many historians to go out and test the idea. They found it doesn´t work. Unfortunately great simple explanations for monumental events are hard to kill, so it still gets put out there as plausible.

  • @alexian666
    @alexian666 4 роки тому +14

    As a mexican, I loved it man, thanks, really...
    Can you make something about mexican revolution? You know, 1910...

  • @StaleBaguette
    @StaleBaguette 5 років тому +70

    I learned so much about new spain, it is a region that I am very interested in however there are no good sources on it.

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  5 років тому +16

      Thank you.
      And yeah, I understand what you mean.
      When I started the research for this topic I couldn't find a good all encompassing book on the subject. It was always some kind of a weird take on the revolution, whether it be religious one ("Quetzalcóatl and Guadalupe") or nationalistic one ("The Dynamic of Mexican Nationalism"), etc. In the end I ended up reading three different books and combining it with Wikipedia to get some kind of a full story.

    • @michaeloswal9847
      @michaeloswal9847 5 років тому +11

      The Anti-Spanish propaganda made sure there wasn't much data to keep a "viable" research approach, and what is left is manipulated and rewritten history. “History is written by the victors” (Sir Winston Churchill)

    • @mr.e3894
      @mr.e3894 4 роки тому +2

      @@michaeloswal9847 sounds like it wasnt very different to what the Spanish INVADERS did to the Natives...burning Mexica Libraries and codecies.....and bringing in the Christian MYTH to control the populations..

    • @michaeloswal9847
      @michaeloswal9847 4 роки тому +3

      @@mr.e3894 taking under consideration that those claiming such statement are the same ones claiming genocide yet Spanish controled areas are the only territories with full natives walking freelly. And those same territories and nations are the only ones where you can visit full builded culture buildings constructed for natives. I understand you can lack of common sense, but use your logic; it shouldnt be that hard. Even a 5 years old can add 1 + 1

    • @mr.e3894
      @mr.e3894 4 роки тому +4

      @@michaeloswal9847 " Claiming" ?!? 😁🤣😁 Hardly! Please, tell me how many ORIGINAL Mexica codecies are in existence today? How about Mayan texts? I will await your answer.... Your defense of the Spanish INVASION is feeble, at best. Your right wing revisionism will not work here, buddy.

  • @hebermoratillo7846
    @hebermoratillo7846 5 років тому +17

    Such a beautiful and perfectly explained video

  • @1987MartinT
    @1987MartinT 4 роки тому +82

    Poor Iturbide. He tried so hard to keep his country together.

    • @ianemmanuel2007
      @ianemmanuel2007 3 роки тому +8

      I am his relative. Greetings.

    • @imperiumgrim4717
      @imperiumgrim4717 3 роки тому +10

      @@ianemmanuel2007 wtf? Fr

    • @bini2851
      @bini2851 11 місяців тому

      @@ianemmanuel2007no ur not

    • @ianemmanuel2007
      @ianemmanuel2007 11 місяців тому +1

      @@bini2851 your opinion doesn't change reality. I don't really care.

    • @lcdream4213
      @lcdream4213 10 місяців тому

      @@ianemmanuel2007are you serious?

  • @elguerotapatio9258
    @elguerotapatio9258 5 років тому +52

    Surprised that we got the war of independence instead of the revolution, not complaining tho, it's a topic that should be more talked about

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  5 років тому +17

      I wanted to talk about (and also have a reason to research more in to) colonial Mexico so the War of Independence seemed like a perfect choice.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 5 років тому +4

      What's "revolution" but a name? The "American Revolution" is for Spanish-speakers and many others just "the North American War of Independence". If you don't behead a king or a dozen, then it's not revolution enough, also slavery... no self-respecting revolution maintains slavery, in today's speech (normally) "revolution" is a class war uprising, everything else is not. I don't see anything more or less revolutionary in the Mexican War of Independence than in the North American one.

    • @danielbutka8854
      @danielbutka8854 5 років тому +1

      Yeah, I think the Revolution is more well known than the war of independence because the US got involved somewhat in the Revolution, but not independence

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 5 років тому

      @Galleta de Soda - And what did I say that made you think you had to "correct" me on that? I know all that very well, it's just that we often say "norteamericano" instead of "estadounidense" or "gringo". Sure: there are other countries in the continent of North America, such as Honduras, Nicaragua, Greenland, Cuba and what-not but still the lack of a proper name for the USA and its sheer size make it as similar to "North America" as the EU is to "Europe".

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 5 років тому +2

      @Galleta de Soda - Whatever, man. I know my native language, I live not far from where it was first documented, so whatever.
      I think the lazy ones are North Americans or Americans in generl for not having a war on nomenclature as Greece and North Macedonia almost had. The most adequate name for the USA is... Virginia.

  • @edb8563
    @edb8563 2 роки тому

    Dude, the best video I’ve found of any time in mxn history. Would love more deep dives into different periods of mxn history

  • @LunemerLunto
    @LunemerLunto 4 роки тому +2

    This video is really good! It really shows that you did a good and complete investigation! great job

  • @danielbutka8854
    @danielbutka8854 5 років тому +3

    I'm grateful for project revolution for introducing me to your channel

  • @rcfarmer4450
    @rcfarmer4450 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for making this video! I was very interested in this subject matter after learning about the economic aspect of the fall of the Spanish empire.

  • @isaacgriffin5690
    @isaacgriffin5690 5 років тому +6

    Very well done. Truly great.

  • @sdfswords
    @sdfswords 4 роки тому +38

    Well done, tons of information. Poor Mexico, still in chaos, one of the most beautiful places with fantastic people.

    • @Nonamelol.
      @Nonamelol. 3 роки тому +11

      It’s pretty damn fascinating that Mexico still exists and is the has the 15th largest economy in the world after all the shit it’s been through

    • @1979cl1
      @1979cl1 2 роки тому +1

      @@Nonamelol. Mexico survives but still has problems the Cartels

    • @cachifli870
      @cachifli870 2 роки тому +6

      @@1979cl1 yeah but that's in northern Mexico the economic region of the country the south is pretty safe but just lacks the infrastructure Mexico would probably be top 10 economy if the south was developed

    • @alfred5394
      @alfred5394 2 роки тому

      México has a war versus the Drug trafficking

    • @triklopsvilchir7052
      @triklopsvilchir7052 2 роки тому +1

      @@cachifli870 se está ya trabajando en eso con el nuevo gobierno

  • @davidramos141
    @davidramos141 4 роки тому +2

    This was extremely insightful, thank you so much

  • @stereorapier7919
    @stereorapier7919 5 років тому +5

    Really cool video, nice seing somebody does aknowledge mexican histoty in youtube. Keep up the good work

  • @miketackabery7521
    @miketackabery7521 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for this video. I'd not been conversant with the early revolutions, but only the 20th century one. Really eye opening! Thanks again!

  • @aprilwilliamson273
    @aprilwilliamson273 Рік тому

    i am rolling about your emperor joke! such a great video dude, thank you!

  • @Tunicofaria
    @Tunicofaria 5 років тому +19

    Outstanding video! But the image shown at 13:24 is actually from Brazil and Pedro I

    • @freiervogel3440
      @freiervogel3440 2 роки тому

      @T-Rex Coahuila Pedro I was not a cousin of Maximilian

  • @danimx6647
    @danimx6647 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent video, thanks.

  • @margogutierrez53
    @margogutierrez53 3 роки тому

    this was soooo helpful and easy to follow! sick to see vids about Mexican history

  • @ebenezerstooge1716
    @ebenezerstooge1716 5 років тому +12

    Was Belize ever part of the Mexican Empire? This map among a few others shows it as such, yet from what I know, British Honduras had been established long before then.

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  5 років тому +12

      Belize was always under Spanish control. However this did not mean that the British and specially British buccaneers didn't try to control the area specially for it's valuable logwood. However these where always very much disputed claims, with New Spain almost always coming up on top. "After the 1763 Treaty of Paris conceded to Britain the right to cut logwood but asserted Spanish sovereignty over the territory." this was suppose to settle the problem but it largely continued in a disputed state until the Mexican independence.

    • @papermaniac
      @papermaniac 5 років тому +6

      british honduras wasn't recongnized by either Spain or Mexico until Belize declare Independence from UK. When Central America splitted out from Mexico, the issue of British Honduras stopped to be a problem for the mexican government as that territory then was considered part of Guatemala.

  • @paulaceto6492
    @paulaceto6492 6 місяців тому +1

    I came to watch this video because I recently received a board game from Mexican publisher Malinche Games covering this very topic. It's called Patria Libre, and is in both Spanish and English. Thank you for a very well-done and informative introduction tp this period of history. Now when I play as Father Hidalgo (or Venegas), I'll have some background as I make my moves.

  • @petersimpson7437
    @petersimpson7437 4 роки тому

    Great video, very informative. Thank you!

  • @bobcharlie2337
    @bobcharlie2337 5 років тому +2

    Great video, well done. You gave a new subscriber.

  • @depdark1
    @depdark1 5 років тому +33

    I am from DOLORES. Brings tears to my eyes the courage of MIGUEL HIDALGO Y COSTILLA and the people from my city to fight off invaders !!

    • @enzocompanbadillo5365
      @enzocompanbadillo5365 5 років тому +11

      Era monarquista y peleaba por el Rey, los invasores eran las tropas de Napoleón en España.

    • @j.d.5626
      @j.d.5626 5 років тому

      @@enzocompanbadillo5365 Exacto, esto fue una guerra civil. Invasores.... Si en 1500

    • @enzocompanbadillo5365
      @enzocompanbadillo5365 5 років тому +6

      @@j.d.5626 ¿En 1500? Por esos años no existía México todavía. No sé si te estoy entendiendo.

    • @depdark1
      @depdark1 5 років тому

      @@enzocompanbadillo5365 interessante. Nunl lo abia bisto desde ese punto. Pero si hay que tener coraje para alsarse en armas contra españa

    • @depdark1
      @depdark1 5 років тому

      @@j.d.5626 Yo siempre eh mirado k españa era invasor asta el los años 1800s pork las deciciones eran tomadas por españa y no por la gente k vivia en mexico

  • @RG-iy6cp
    @RG-iy6cp 4 роки тому +7

    Thank you for this video I love 🇲🇽

  • @jakethewoz
    @jakethewoz 4 роки тому +6

    Great video! But please choose a different map for the background. I couldn't focus on what you were talking about often because of the jarring colors (and their irrelevance), and I kept wondering what yellow and red meant. A simple, single color map would've made it much easier for me to focus.
    That being said, great stuff! I'm a new sub

    • @nom3nnescio
      @nom3nnescio 5 місяців тому

      Never heard of topographic maps?

    • @tomghzel
      @tomghzel 3 місяці тому

      Same, it took me some time after I figured it's height. For the st* commentor: height on the map is totally irrelevant, like OP said. We are listening to one thing and seeing something irrelevant, while what we expect is the different parties control of the map.

  • @sandra1575
    @sandra1575 3 роки тому +1

    so many good details, thanks.

  • @LuisGutierrezG123
    @LuisGutierrezG123 4 роки тому +19

    Excellent video. Perfect to watch after Mexico’s Independence Day was just a few days ago. You did butcher a lot of names though.
    The “gu” in Miguel it’s pronounced the same way as in “Guitar”
    Guadalupe is pronounced as “Wa-da-loo-pay” and Iturrigaray is pronounced as “Ee-too-ree-gah-ra-ee” not “ha-ra-ee”
    Other than that, great video

    • @shiroumxm2052
      @shiroumxm2052 4 роки тому

      the "pay" at the end is wrong.. we say wa-da-loo-pe as in pet..
      same goes for jo-sé se is pronounced like in "set" not like "say"

  • @davidrabillard9620
    @davidrabillard9620 2 роки тому

    great piece! thank you

  • @waynez1025
    @waynez1025 3 роки тому

    Nice, great information! Thank you!

  • @leonardomtorres6858
    @leonardomtorres6858 3 роки тому +2

    As a history loving mexican, I can say I loved this video. Also you just got a new sub pal ;)

  • @dams6829
    @dams6829 5 років тому +9

    Where were you yesterday when I was looking for videos about Mexican history?

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  5 років тому +4

      Well I am here today, better late then never :D

  • @Kbezukodeidad
    @Kbezukodeidad 3 роки тому +2

    Wow I'm mexican and this video is awesome my elementary history clases in one video, your pronuntation is really really good, i'm excited with your channel, thats all, thanks

  • @LordDim1
    @LordDim1 5 років тому +16

    Agustín de Iturbide, the man Mexico needed but didn't deserve. His nickname, the Iron Dragon, was not unfounded. He was a near military genius, and in reality, his administrative shortcomings have been significantly played up by his political opponents throughout history. Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna (yes, the same Santa Anna who lost to the US in the Mexican-American war) was one of the main men leading the uprising against Iturbide in 1823 in favour of a republic. Santa Anna would later in life admit that at the time, he had no idea what a republic actually was. His actual reasoning for rising up was that Iturbide had removed him from his position as customs-master of Veracruz, Mexico's largest and most important port, where Santa Anna had been embezzling and mismanaging the customs to a horrifying degree.

    • @foedustriplex4014
      @foedustriplex4014 5 років тому +1

      @Galleta de Soda Egotistical yes idiot no. I mean he enchanted the nation by allowing him to serve that many times as president, he would raise up armies from nothing. And yes he was one of the generals who participate in the Mexican American war he was not the one to blame. At the time when the war broke out he was exile in Cuba and he was having conversation with the EEUU to let him safe passage so he could end the war and come to a deal however that did not happen. The Mexican Govt. at the time was also talking to him since they had no more competent generals and wanted him to command the main army he agreed. When he landed in Mexico he mustered more soldiers and resources and was about to defeat Zachary Taylor but was called back my the Mexican Govt. who had armed the populace in Mexico City to fight of the Americans however they started a rebellion and Govt. wanted Santa Anna to assist them.

    • @allariruizruedaarambula1988
      @allariruizruedaarambula1988 4 роки тому +1

      @@foedustriplex4014 Santa Anna is still the model of the average mexican politician, as we are still enduring from the entire political spectrum.

    • @Yo-ee6jj
      @Yo-ee6jj 2 роки тому +1

      En historia no nos enseñaron que se le decía el dragón de hierro Xd, todo es culpa de la SEP (;ŏ﹏ŏ), o lo sacaste de Google Xd

  • @elemperadordemexico
    @elemperadordemexico 5 років тому +34

    Viva México

  • @tonyminutti5277
    @tonyminutti5277 5 років тому +8

    And I...GuadalOOP....
    Great video and I have always wondered what Mexico would have been if the Monarchies would have been left to prosper? Not convenient for the USA of course but Mexico's internal problems have always been terrible, up to today! It's fascinating how we had two Emperors in North America. Oh my Mexico, you would have been great and hopefully less violent. I have visited the tombs of both Emperor Agustin de Iturbide and Emperor Maximilian von Hapsburg. Such great legacies that are being rewritten to their formal glory as their stories have been stained by the opposing powers. But the truth always comes out! Hello from Mexico! Great video! Thank you! Could you do one of the Second Mexican Empire?! Cheers! Saludos!

    • @therealcnado
      @therealcnado 5 років тому

      KEK, I was just about to comment about his pronunciation. Still a good vid though.

  • @EpicTorchiz
    @EpicTorchiz 5 років тому

    Nice Video! Great History!

  • @Divert486
    @Divert486 5 років тому +4

    I presume the yt algorythm doesnt like you. I subbed months ago (since your video on the austro hungarian navy) and didnt see you uploaded until i started cleaning my subs and remembered you exist.. And look at that, video uploaded two days ago that never showed up in my feed or daily digest.. Great video though and im glad i subbed.

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  5 років тому

      Thank you :)
      I have released a bunch of videos since that one so maybe check those out too. I particularly enjoyed my Christmas special on Good King Wenceslas.
      But over all yeah, UA-cam's algorithm is known to disfavor historical content in general. The theory is that it can be too contentious for UA-cam's liking special when talking about the 20th century but we (we as in History UA-camrs) don't know for sure.

  • @redserpent
    @redserpent 4 роки тому +1

    Nice video is well done. I only need to mention one bug: The 5 Central American states gained independence from Spain in 1821 before Iturbide became King/Emperor. He refused to recognize this independence and send the Mexican army to Guatemala to re-unify the segments but was stopped at San Salvador/El Salvador. After laying siege to that city for months he resisted and returned to Mexico to deal with a revolt.

  • @FOLIPE
    @FOLIPE 4 роки тому +8

    If the Spanish monarchs had done like the Portuguese and fled to the colonies México could have been an empire, then?

    • @owlman_
      @owlman_ 2 роки тому +1

      It's very likely they would have been supported by 2/3 of the political factions (moderate royalists and far-right conservatives), so yes.

    • @Ajolote_comunista
      @Ajolote_comunista 10 місяців тому

      I never questioned before

    • @alexandercellante7553
      @alexandercellante7553 9 місяців тому

      Damn. Never thought about that...

  • @bambitv6968
    @bambitv6968 3 роки тому

    Bro, clutching my school homework thanks my dudeee!

  • @kayzeaza
    @kayzeaza 5 років тому +2

    Looking at all the peoples thumbnails has made me realize Mr. Beat is looking fresh af

  • @OscarPanczenko
    @OscarPanczenko 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you!

  • @HaroldDVasquezLopez
    @HaroldDVasquezLopez 11 місяців тому +2

    Great video on México’s independence, it’d be interesting to see ya do a video on Peru’s independence, probably South America’s independence struggle most shrouded in mystery, deception, betrayal, and opportunism. Greetings from Peru 🇵🇪

  • @darklord7069
    @darklord7069 2 роки тому

    This video is great. Any sources that you can provide on the war of independence and the events leading to it?

  • @ludvykjahn5955
    @ludvykjahn5955 2 роки тому

    Yes that was great , and like others here I learned much and had a good time doing that

  • @aaronstephan1816
    @aaronstephan1816 2 роки тому

    That was really good. I liked the memes too.

  • @TWOCOWS1
    @TWOCOWS1 3 роки тому

    hi. have you made any on Mexican American war? your work is the only none biased history on youtube. excellent

  • @Daneiladams555
    @Daneiladams555 Рік тому +1

    I go to Guanajuato a lot and I play son jarocho on jarana, it is all connected to this

  • @trailingarm63
    @trailingarm63 4 роки тому +1

    That was great. I think you should consider a follow-up video taking Mexican history as far as the 1940s.

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  4 роки тому +3

      Hold that thought (although I wont go as far as that, my expertise ends with with the 19th century).

  • @simple-fn6cr
    @simple-fn6cr Рік тому

    after seeing this video and many others about mexican history its impressive how diverse and funny the mispronunciations of the historical figures are

  • @DarwinFlug
    @DarwinFlug 5 років тому +4

    Is true 100% good joob and thanks you for Explaining History of Mexico

  • @gcn7491
    @gcn7491 4 роки тому +7

    13:25 Picture of independent of brazil

  • @kxuydhj
    @kxuydhj 2 роки тому +1

    i love how this video is dead serious and suddenly at 5:50 there's a "nobody expects the Mexican inquisition" with sombreros and moustaches

  • @DiamondTurtleGamer
    @DiamondTurtleGamer 5 років тому +1

    Project revolutionary here!

  • @erickhiguera6644
    @erickhiguera6644 4 роки тому +6

    the Virgin Republican vs the Chad Iturbide

  • @patrickcloutier6801
    @patrickcloutier6801 5 років тому +1

    Very informative

  • @lame-related
    @lame-related 8 місяців тому

    New sub here 👋
    love ur content my man😁

  • @miguelaraujo7061
    @miguelaraujo7061 2 роки тому

    Nice vídeo, really good. But at 13:24 u used a paint of Emperor Pedro I from Brazil as something about the spanish's liberals.

  • @GD30.06
    @GD30.06 4 роки тому +12

    Imagine Mexico this size , as a kingdom. Man I would make videos like this.

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 5 років тому +1

    The whole video was awesome but I found most interesting that bit around 3:36 about the Aztec nobility getting assimilated into the Spanish one. I'm guessing it includes or maybe even especially refers to the other than Mexica Nahuatl-speaking groups, particularly the Tlaxcalans, who resisted incorporation into the Aztec Empire and were the chief native allies of Cortes.

    • @MLaserHistory
      @MLaserHistory  5 років тому +2

      Yes you could say they where the main ones or at least the main ones on display. But in fact the incorporation of local nobility in to the Spanish nobility wasn't that uncommon. It happened in the Philippines and in South America as well.
      One particularly interesting story of this happening is that some decedents of Moctezuma the Second where given noble status and then later moved to Spain. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Moctezuma_de_Tultengo

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 5 років тому +2

      @@MLaserHistory Very interesting, thanks!

    •  5 років тому +2

      @@Artur_M. the written accounts of Hernán Cortés meeting with Moctezuma Ilhuicamina, Aztec emperor at the time, describe the deference and respect that Cortez shows to the emperor, in line with Spanish protocol for addressing nobles and Royalty. It's quite a read.
      Moctezuma -the story goes- was fascinated by the armor and mount of the Spaniards, and it was a stroke of luck that a comet(probably Halley's) was expected to make it's appearance according to Aztec astrological records, (they were keen observers of the stars) this "portent of the heavens" was associated with the prophecy of the return of Quetzalcoatl,the feathered snake a diety described as a pale skinned and bearded man. You could imagine Moctezuma's state of mind when news of the arrival of the Spaniards in veracruz got to him

  • @prensavoz1000
    @prensavoz1000 5 років тому +1

    Hi , I like your video. Why dont you make a video about Spanish-American War in 1898 and cuban insurgents. You could make another video about Ogaden War (Ethiopia vs Somalia) and Soviet Union- Cuba intervention in the conflict.

  • @marlboroman2393
    @marlboroman2393 4 роки тому

    I like the song in the background , its"noches en andalucia"

  • @BOIZADAS
    @BOIZADAS 4 роки тому +8

    spain? you showed pictures from the first emperor of brazil....

  • @tomesilva877
    @tomesilva877 2 роки тому

    The image that you show at @13:24 is actually of dom Pedro I of Brazil declaring the independence of Brazil from Portugal.

  • @davsalda
    @davsalda 4 роки тому +5

    M. Laser History, I recommend a super interesting video topic involving Latin America, the Spanish, the British and even prerevolution USA all in one...the war of Jenkins ear.
    It includes one of the largest amphibious invations in history, the brother of George Washington, and a guy who was missing an eye an arm and a leg.
    And it's a piece of epic history that is virtually unknown.

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 3 роки тому +3

    To think if California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, And Utah all stayed part of Mexico

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex 4 роки тому +12

    Iturbide is a hero. What a man! Greetings from Colombia.

    • @cryctchr9717
      @cryctchr9717 4 роки тому

      David more like a traitor

    • @shiroumxm2052
      @shiroumxm2052 4 роки тому

      he was the man , and after him Francisco I. MAdero, unfortunally Madero was killed by Huerta in a plan signed by the American govermment in their embassy, tha plan was to put a puppet president wich caused the Mexican revolution

  • @SlothDemon007
    @SlothDemon007 3 роки тому

    Besides the mispronunciation of La Virgin de Guadalupe (ending in Loopeh not loop) this was a phenomenal overview

  • @a1ecto554
    @a1ecto554 5 років тому

    Finally a video that talks about Augustine Iturbide.

  • @Neilos-sd6ti
    @Neilos-sd6ti 4 роки тому +14

    Great video, I'm from Mexico and honestly in the schools here they gloss over many details and add a pinch of ideology, and you have to study the same period every year in history and it's really boring.

    • @kinok5927
      @kinok5927 2 роки тому

      What kind of ideology?

    • @aldomartinez4607
      @aldomartinez4607 2 роки тому

      @@kinok5927 the liberal one. The Mexican history books in school always demonize the conservatives while presenting the liberals as the good guys.
      An example would be the Austrian emperor. they represent him as a dictator omitting the fact that he had liberal values and even offered Juárez(the head of the liberals that fought off the French invasion of Mexico) the chance to make peace and make him his prime minister, which had that happened Mexico today would be a constitutional monarchy, and possibly never faced a revolution

    • @owlman_
      @owlman_ 2 роки тому

      @@kinok5927 Iturbide bad and traitor, republic good and glorious. All hail the United Sta-- uhhhh the United MEXICAN States.

  • @joyhall2736
    @joyhall2736 Рік тому

    Fascinating!!!

  • @zxylo786
    @zxylo786 2 роки тому +1

    I'm a Mexican and I can say that this is a very good video. Nicely done.

  • @cebenify
    @cebenify 5 років тому +9

    Wow. Itturbide is a missed opportunity.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 5 років тому +3

      Zapata was a missed opportunity, Iturbide rather an opportunist.

    • @foedustriplex4014
      @foedustriplex4014 5 років тому +3

      @@LuisAldamiz Zapata only care about land reform and had no national project, much like Doroteo Arango (Pancho Villa). So, its not even a comparison by a lot.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 5 років тому

      @@foedustriplex4014 - I don't think so. In any case land reform is a national project in itself.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 5 років тому +1

      @Galleta de Soda - Zapata was NOT a war criminal at all: his behavior and that of his followers was always exquisite. When the revolutionaries entered Mexico City, the Villistas took what they wanted, the Zapatistas asked for it and did not impose their will on anyone. Zapata is better than Jesus.

    • @foedustriplex4014
      @foedustriplex4014 5 років тому

      Ok, let me explain when Madero called to arms the populace his banner was no re-election and uphold the constitution however he turn out given the turmoil his hands were tied to implement any land reform so Zapata rose up his forces against and was mostly strictly operating in Morelos. When Madero was assassinated other caudillos rose up against Huerta and the Civil war began. Caudillos such as Venustiano Carranza had National ran on upholding the constitution and Pancho Villa was part for a time in his army. Carranza comparison to Zapata did have a national project by trying to create a constitution with the help of other caudillos and intellectuals, representatives from Zapata also had a say in this new constitution, and that was his only extent. Zapata like Pancho never wanted to be president, so yeah he was not a missed opportunity since he was never at the same table.

  • @Deraoel64
    @Deraoel64 5 років тому +4

    Sup'... just as an FYI for all of you international viewers... on 6:16, it's supposed to sound "gwa-da-loo-pay" (Gua-da-lu-pe). If you visit Mexico, locals might not get what did you mean if you pronounce it as in the video. Once again, a tip of advice from a Mexican national. Excellent video btw!

  • @FelixHdez
    @FelixHdez Рік тому

    Very enjoyable video. Btw vicente guerrero is pronounced without the u, the u in gue is silent.

  • @Keijjeum
    @Keijjeum 5 років тому +48

    The far left and the far right are the reason why we can't just have nice things.

    •  5 років тому +20

      Both extremes touch. Basically opposite sides of the same coin. Exteeme-anything never leads to anything good with the notable exception of sex.

    • @kishinasura1504
      @kishinasura1504 5 років тому +4

      Hmmmm in this case I fail to see any far left faction. To be fair, this was a conflict between a group of asshole aristocrats vs. another group of asshole aristocrats. Neither of them (save perhaps Morelos or maybe Guerrero) were very left leaned, as they weren't really asking for the kind of shit that, say the French revolutionaries wanted. Come to think of it, there's barely any relevant far left groups in Mexico's history up until right now. Only some literally communist guerillas now and then that were vanquished pretty quickly come to mind. Shit, for the first time in around 100 years, Mexico finally has a left leaning president in charge, and imo he may be more centrist than leftist...

    • @broodjeal-cohol5033
      @broodjeal-cohol5033 4 роки тому

      ​@ Not true

    •  4 роки тому

      @@broodjeal-cohol5033 I would very much like to be enightened about what is it that is "not true". We can see world history peppered with examples where extreme views and extreme actions never brought anything good to fruit. And it can be said of any sort of views political or otherwise, be it the extreme left Wich brought us memorable atrocities such as the Stalin regime, as to the "tight", of which there are numerous examples besides the obvious common place that shared the coin of totalitarianism. A lesser known examples of extreme right without falling on common places: McCarthyism (all proportions considered, i wouldn't dare say the stalinist atrocities, are even in the same ballpark, yet I think we can agree that neither radical stances left anything that could be considered "Good". Again, with the notable exception of sex, extreme "anything" has never brought about anything good for anyone....

    •  4 роки тому +1

      @@kishinasura1504 I believe you're confusing mediocrity and conformism with a reasonable aversion for extreme ideologies. It is a common mistake if you're not aquanted with Thomas Aquinas's "Just temperance" (there is a better English term for it but I can't seem to recall it right now). The point is that radical views throughout history have had the common trait of dividing and creating conflict where solutions not based on zero-sums are perfectly possible. One side will not listen to the other, because no compromise is desirable for extremists. Either one side wins and the other one loses, and we'll be dog darned if we're going to be on the loser side... That sort of stance never leads to anything good. While I agree with Rev.King's views where there is a minimum level where one should not compromise (values, ethics, religious views, and inalienable rights for example) most conflicts lay well outside the line of no compromise. That is not to say that one should stand idly in the center, which is an equaly valid and fiercely defensible position in the face of radicalism of any kind. Besides exremsisms, you know what else never brought anything good to anyone? False dichotomies. There are very diverse alternatives that usually lie between "with us" and "against us"

  • @tippylosojos
    @tippylosojos 4 роки тому +1

    Iturbide, one the many Basques(Vascos) who left their stamp on Mexico.

  • @arjb1046
    @arjb1046 4 роки тому +6

    As a Mexican American Mestizo myself. I thank you dear sir for providing an in depth look and my cultural homeland. VIVA!

  • @FOLIPE
    @FOLIPE 5 років тому +5

    A similar agreement to the one in Mexico worked out in Brazil; in fact, our independence was even more conservative than that as slavery was kept unchanged for a half a century after it. But that was only doable due to the fact that the conservatives took charge of the independence process and we did have a Portuguese nobleman to put in the throne - in fact, the heir of the Portuguese throne himself. As for a Portuguese invasion, that wasn't a major threat after the whole of Brazil was put under the rule of the central government. That and the fact that the Portuguese court had moved to Brazil some fifteen years before, combined with the cohesion of the Brazilian elite against Portugal and the fact that there wasn't such a strong caste system in Brazil, also influenced why the plan of making a negotiated transition did work in Brazil, though. Also, our geography is probably easier to unite than Mexico's.

  • @ravenouself4181
    @ravenouself4181 Рік тому

    Damn, I wish all History Teachers/Professors were half as diligent as You.