7:45 really an underrated point.. I’ve done the same.. pushed it on and off-road and even on road I tap out before it does. I grew up around racing so understand speed/grip.. this truck can be borderline scary. It feels like the tires would come off the rims on the 37 before it would cry uncle. Off road it makes things that have challenged my 4Runner & GX 460 seem almost unnoticeable. Took a relative off-roading in it and his comment was, “nothing is hard for this thing”.
I have this truck.. but a 2022 .. and a year later I’m still in love. It’s cheat code off-road (unless the trail gets thin .. when decisions have to be made when you can’t turn around) and defies the laws of physics on-road. I can’t think of any other vehicle I’d rather daily.
@@legion1630I’m at 15k miles so just the normal stuff..oil changes/rotation and air filter. It sat for a while so battery was being shady so I replaced that. A big expense will be tires. These KO2 will be done by 30K.. maybe earlier. I won’t get 3 winters out of them. That’s gonna be over $2K. 37 tires not cheap. Going Falken AT4W.
@@gokufighter21I actually just won one from Benny Johnson on YT, 2021 also. Always had and loved my F350 diesels, but no longer have that 6 figure income. So you r very content then?
My Dad died in 2007 when i was 22. Seeing u 2 like this gives me so much joy and a little bit of that i cant do this anymore. But kudos guyz. Live happy and make every second count with ur dad. and keep up the good work.
Definitely more composed than my Gen 2 going slowish on that washboard road. Great video! Your dad has some good insights, yall make for a good team. Wish my truck had the cargo camera, and the ability to use the cameras at normal speed.
Great channel and great review. I’m a Gen 1 owner who tows. The best thing a Raptor owner can do is air up the tires when towing. The jiggles go away. I’ve towed over 10K miles with this combo at or even above the rating.
Just got my 2024 shelter green 37 package. Drove it 1400 miles from Ohio back to Colorado. Slept on the back bench. Awesome truck, definitely the real deal. Can’t wait to hit some trails and tow, both things already planned for this beast.
Nice review in our typical southern Ontario winter weather.. I will say this as well, during this whole review, the both of you had a small but noticeable smirk on your faces the whole time that isn't there with any other truck review haha.! looks like you had fun!
Great job guys. I research the shit out of everything and you guys just made it a little easier. Definitely getting the Raptor. Might wait for your review on the R version before pulling the trigger.
It would very interesting to see a comparison of the 35 inch vs 37 inch tires doing the exact same tests. Seems the 37 inch package hurts performance quite a bit.
I bought my Gen 1 for the body style, and the beefie grill. I've always been partial to that style. My Gen 1 also has that beefie V8 that I like. I've not towed anything as yet, but it does the job of getting me in and out of my driveway, it is like that backroad that you guys were on. I've got a 6 % grade at one point, where I have to use 4L if it is wet, or snowy. I love a Raptor SVT over the newer ones, but a Raptor is a Raptor is a Raptor❤
"Most Raptor owners have never been in the desert." I think you might be surprised. The entire west and southwest US (including TX for fun) has access to desert or semi-arid regions. Even OR, WA and BC have semi-arid lands east of the cascades. I've played in sand dunes in both OR and WA of all places! And the surrounding states/provinces can road trip it. The raptor owners groups I'm part of definitely do this. I take your point though, you east coasters don't have as many areas where you can let these trucks stretch their legs! You're dead on about the WD hitch! I had a weighsafe hitch to level and anti-sway with my raptor. Did a 3 state, 2000 mile road trip with a 5k lb travel trailer. Zero drama, dead level, no more sway, as much power as you need to pass anything, even uphill and 400 mile freeway range (see if you get that in a TRX, haha!) shockingly good MPG. And then you disconnect the trailer, air down and hit 60mph in the dunes! These trucks are amazing.
Great job guys! You two have built this channel from the ground up and have produced consistently high quality, relevant and fun to watch videos. Congratulations to a couple good ol' Canadian boys........ good stuff. Certainly more than earned my sub. Your channel, Savagegeese, Alex on Autos and anything to do with Andre on TFL are, IMHO, the cream of the crop. The Raptor is fantastic and the TRX is, well the TRX...... nothing compares. Gotta love RAM. Seeing the placement of Ford, and more particularly the Powerboost, on your Accelertion Leaderboard makes me all the more excited for my Powerboost to arrive in the spring.
Pretty sweet, but gimme that suspension with the XL powerboost and zero farkles. Like a Workman Power Wagon...Some of us want all the mechanical, and can do without the price tag of all the fluff.
That would be really good for prerunner builds and play vehicles. However, Ford would be losing money by doing that, and one of the strongest points of a Raptor is that it is both a great daily and fun weekender.
Your channel gives better more comprehensive reviews now that you've added that ramp,(which could also be used to flex 4x4's) keep up the awesome reviews, you've got a fan in me!!
If I were young and rich I’d have a Raptor for my everyday truck and a TRX for my go to Church truck on Sunday Morning, Sunday Night and Wednesday Night truck, great review you bunch of Canucks, like Red Green with horsepower!!!
Great video! I'd love to see how the new TRD Pro compares, honestly this is one of the first Ford trucks I'd be willing drop that coin on. 11:08 gonna need all those camera to park it at the mall
Do you know, can you get real, softer rubber snow tires, not just the 3 peak winter rated all seasons or all terrains, in that 37 tire size? And what is the specific size of those stock 37's? (My little Jeep that I will be replacing has 235/70 R16's for instance). How about with the 35's? Oh, and with those coil springs and no leafs at both ends, do you think this actually drives smoother, more buttery smooth, on the highways as say a Platinum? As usual, always useful vids. Thanks.
Could you damage the turbos when fording water pretty much up to air intake? Recently had to use mine during a flood and was probably above recommended water depth
I would like to know why your cameras on that truck work while driving while my 2021 PowerBoost gives me a message that says they are deactivated in motion for safety. Wonder if the trailer hookup activated it.
I’m really debating between the 37 and 35. I like the look and ground clearance of the 37 but the more limited suspension travel and articulation is kind of a big deal.
Fancy seeing you here! I've run with a lot of 37s (think you have too) and for the high speed stuff I've not noticed a performance gain. They do have constant problems with stuff breaking, clearance, etc. That should be fixed from the factory, but even Ford said 35s are better except for low speed crawling. The added rolling weight and diminished clearance is more of a detriment IMO
I bet the 37s will be better in just about every situation off road. They will roll over rocks and holes better both at speed and going slow . My worry about the 37 was more about daily driving affecting fuel economy and handling but all the reviews i’ve seen make it sound like ford did a really good job with it.
@@peachpole TRX has far better RTI score than the 37 Raptor. Less travel, more rolling resistance = worse for what the truck was intended for. High speed desert running.
@@jabroni6199 I’m not going to try and change your mind but the benefits of a larger tire are difficult to type out on a keyboard. If the raptor gives up a significant amount of travel with the 37 that would be a problem but I doubt ford would allow that. If I wanted to buy a raptor to thrash in the desert. I would buy the 37 version. It’s just going to roll through holes and g-outs better and make rocks feel smaller. It helps that the KO2 is a nice light 37 as well. Just my opinion.
@Truck King What was max towing on this specific truck? Raptors are advertised as having max towing of 8,200 and max payload of 1,400. Steven read the max payload sticker on this truck as 1,270lb. Was the 8,200lb max towing you mentioned the max for the model? Or max for this particular truck and what was on the label? Either way, with 7,000 pound trailer and you two in it, you were in the ballpark of max payload. If one was towing max trailer weight of 8,200, then 1,270 max payload - 820 tongue weight only leaves only 450 lbs of payload for driver, passengers, cargo, tools, supplies, etc. That being said, like with most pickups, if you are regularly towing over 2/3 (66%) of the max tow rating (regularly meaning every weekend), you will likely be better served with a pickup with more capability. 2/3 of max towing seems to be a reasonable place to be towing regularly in comfort. Sure you can tow right at max, but having some leeway makes for a lot more comfortable trips.
Really nice seeing the Raptor in its element. Sure, with 500 fewer pounds and no V8 hanging off its nose, the Raptor will be more nimble in this setting. But the problem with that is very few will do this often, in comparison to being daily drivers and highway cruisers. That's where the TRX shines. Quite literally the best ride comfort, cabin isolation, and luxury feel of any mass-produced truck. Plus, when the Raptor R comes out, the weight advantage and nimbleness will likely fade. All of this said: There is a reason beyond offroading on why the Raptor and TRX are so sought after. They're quite literally the Swiss army knife of vehicles. Family, luxury, towing, hauling, highway crusing...all packed with the latest tech. You truly can't go wrong with either...except paying 20K over sticker currently!
@@KiyaWarrior very true, which is why a TRD PRO is the better option, more reliable and practical, yet still more capable than what 99% of people need.
@@nismomike3182 it is about power/weight, and also efficiency. The 3.5 - to say nothing of the High Output version the Raptor has - thus becomes the obvious choice. Thats why the TRX is slower offroad...worse suspension with a heavier nose. Even in my Gen 2 the suspension and heavy front end is a constantly limiting factor - it was obvious to anyone paying attention that the TRX was going to be worse in Baja based on physics alone.
@@T4nkcommander The OP said "Sure, with 500 fewer pounds and no V8 hanging off its nose, the Raptor will be more nimble in this setting." And then he concluded "When the Raptor R comes out, the weight advantage and nimbleness will likely fade." My point was that the 3.5 Eco Boost is not the light weight powertrain many people assume it is. Adding a high output Coyote V8 alone will not affect the Raptors nibbleness and handling one bit.
In my personal opinion I believe the bronco will put a dent into the raptor sales due to not having a SC V8 version yet. A 2.7l ecoboost with the most basic power mods will make just as much power if not more than a stock 3.5l ecoboost. Even the 2.3l ecoboost engines make great power when tuned. I personally would go 7.3l f250 tremor over the current raptor at suggested market price.
Great review! As a Chevy ZR2 owner, I’ve been wrestling with upgrading to the Raptor, but it just doesn’t seem like a good of a value… My ZR2 can pretty much do anything the Raptor can off-road, and I’ll argue the ZR2 is more versatile since it can fit on tighter trails. Of course the ZR2 lacks in the interior refinement/bells and whistles that the Raptor boasts…but that’s not really why you buy an off-road truck is it? The Raptor clearly tows more, but then again, I don’t have anything to tow at the moment 😬
When you say different frame, is it just for the spare tire at the rear? Different shocks 1 inch shaft versus seveneights is that the only difference In suspension?
I'm sure if's there's anyone who can complain about a Ford product it would be you and your father, and I see your still talking about the TRX but I think you should wait until you've tried the Raptor R and then you can compare that to the TRX
That rear suspension should be on every F150 sold...the rough riding and juttering leaf springs should be an option for those that need the extra payload.
How would the Ram, AT4 and TRDPRO half tons do on that trail compared to the Raptor? If fine then maybe the Raptor would be over kill on that type of trail?
Grear video! Unfortunately I could never buy another ecoboost Raptor due to the poor reliability (and sound). Cam phaser issues, rod knock, starter motors sticking, etc are just a few of the common problems. Also, I think once you add a 5.2 Predator engine to the Raptor R, plus upgrade all of the Powertrain and suspension components to be able to handle the power offroad, you'll be as heavy as, or heavier than, a TRX. At point the Raptor loses amy advantage it had over the heavy Ram. Maybe GM and Toyota will get into the offroad game and give us some good competition!
Most ppl who drive this truck dont ise it as it was designed for, ergo you may as well buy a regular f150. Its more of a status symbol. Just my opinion it does a lot of thing ok but nothing well, except perhaps hardcore offorad soaking up the bumps.
🎅🎅🎅🎅🎅Have you ever considered doing a compare/contrast between an AWD Transit Van & some other 4*4 (likely an SUV) in an offroad environment❓❓❓❓❓ I know it's not really a truck - but it can haul & tow a reasonable amount and now has AWD...
@@TruckKing I realise ya'll know better but I'll say it anyhow Don't get a Dually There are 3 lengths of Transit vans - Don't get the longest one. The shortest would be gold...
Our weather is erratic so it's hard to say 😂 I'm pretty sure they're from Northern Ontario which the weather is really cold and it does snow a lot sometimes they have a meter of snow there
Well, my F250 would definitely tow that trailer better but if I tried matching the Raptor off road first, the tow test would have to wait until I was done with multiple trips to a chiropractor and possibly some repairs to the truck. That is assuming I could even reach the Raptors speed off road without becoming totally uncontrollable.
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This is one of the best real world reviews on the Raptor I've seen. I'm tired of seeing test we'll never use.
*you’ll never use.
7:45 really an underrated point.. I’ve done the same.. pushed it on and off-road and even on road I tap out before it does. I grew up around racing so understand speed/grip.. this truck can be borderline scary. It feels like the tires would come off the rims on the 37 before it would cry uncle. Off road it makes things that have challenged my 4Runner & GX 460 seem almost unnoticeable. Took a relative off-roading in it and his comment was, “nothing is hard for this thing”.
“If I wanted my wife in the truck I woulda brought her” killed me😂
Nailed it!
I have this truck.. but a 2022 .. and a year later I’m still in love. It’s cheat code off-road (unless the trail gets thin .. when decisions have to be made when you can’t turn around) and defies the laws of physics on-road. I can’t think of any other vehicle I’d rather daily.
whats the maintenance like
@@legion1630I’m at 15k miles so just the normal stuff..oil changes/rotation and air filter. It sat for a while so battery was being shady so I replaced that. A big expense will be tires. These KO2 will be done by 30K.. maybe earlier. I won’t get 3 winters out of them. That’s gonna be over $2K. 37 tires not cheap. Going Falken AT4W.
I've put 6 thousand miles on mine and IMO its the best I have ever had. Excellent daily driver and a beast off road.
What year
@@doctorcropse2795 2021 and now 37 thousand miles and still no problems!
@@gokufighter21I actually just won one from Benny Johnson on YT, 2021 also. Always had and loved my F350 diesels, but no longer have that 6 figure income. So you r very content then?
This has to be one of the best - if not the best- Raptor 37 video reviews out there. Great footage and commentary - nice work!
Appreciate that
My Dad died in 2007 when i was 22. Seeing u 2 like this gives me so much joy and a little bit of that i cant do this anymore. But kudos guyz. Live happy and make every second count with ur dad. and keep up the good work.
Good job guys!
Definitely more composed than my Gen 2 going slowish on that washboard road. Great video!
Your dad has some good insights, yall make for a good team. Wish my truck had the cargo camera, and the ability to use the cameras at normal speed.
Thanks 👍
Great channel and great review. I’m a Gen 1 owner who tows. The best thing a Raptor owner can do is air up the tires when towing. The jiggles go away. I’ve towed over 10K miles with this combo at or even above the rating.
Just got my 2024 shelter green 37 package. Drove it 1400 miles from Ohio back to Colorado. Slept on the back bench. Awesome truck, definitely the real deal. Can’t wait to hit some trails and tow, both things already planned for this beast.
Nice review in our typical southern Ontario winter weather.. I will say this as well, during this whole review, the both of you had a small but noticeable smirk on your faces the whole time that isn't there with any other truck review haha.! looks like you had fun!
It may not sound like a v8 but man, I like the way it sounds now, they did a good job imo
I tow between 2000 to 7000 lbs and really appreciate the headlight adjustment knob in my 21 Titan Pro-4x.
they just need to make them all self leveling, tech has been around over 20yrs from BMW etc
On top of 7000 poounds towing you have maxed out the payload between you two big guys and 10% tongue weight. Good review!
I drive a 2020 king ranch. People CONSTANTLY flash their lights at me thinking my high beams are on, LEDs are just bright people!
$111 400 CAD....mother of God. That price is crazy insane.
87,385 USD
Great job guys. I research the shit out of everything and you guys just made it a little easier. Definitely getting the Raptor. Might wait for your review on the R version before pulling the trigger.
Can't wait for the Raptor R. I'd still take EcoBoost Raptor over the TRX.
You are excellent at this! You and your dad are a great team.
Please keep going you guys will hit millions pretty soon!
Excellent point about the headlights being tilted up.
Pretty sure this unit has auto levelling headlights already!
Yep
Great job as always, best truck reviews out there! Would love to see and F150 Raptor vs F150 Tremor comparison
Noted!
The truck that matches with your channel name
It’s an awesome truck. Depends on what kind of off roading you want to do though. A Raptor wouldn’t fit on most trails where I am.
Didn’t know their name was overpriced
@@ryancoates872 😂
Best truck/4x4/off road channel on UA-cam of all time!!
Wow, thanks!
@@TruckKing You're welcome and keep up the thorough content!
It would very interesting to see a comparison of the 35 inch vs 37 inch tires doing the exact same tests. Seems the 37 inch package hurts performance quite a bit.
Good point. Lots of extra rolling mass. It sure does cause problems for the first two Gen trucks!
@@T4nkcommander 1.3 lb difference 35 to 37 bfg
10lbs per corner hardly hurts performance. 0-60 5.5-5.7 seconds.
@@johnhovland9511 TFL has done both but at different times but at the same place. Regular R Raptor was 6.1 and the Raptor on 37s was 7.1.
@@bobdennis4801 tfl is literally sponsored by FCA. Gen 3 with a draggy runs 5.5.
I bought my Gen 1 for the body style, and the beefie grill. I've always been partial to that style. My Gen 1 also has that beefie V8 that I like. I've not towed anything as yet, but it does the job of getting me in and out of my driveway, it is like that backroad that you guys were on. I've got a 6 % grade at one point, where I have to use 4L if it is wet, or snowy.
I love a Raptor SVT over the newer ones, but a Raptor is a Raptor is a Raptor❤
Right on!
"Most Raptor owners have never been in the desert." I think you might be surprised. The entire west and southwest US (including TX for fun) has access to desert or semi-arid regions. Even OR, WA and BC have semi-arid lands east of the cascades. I've played in sand dunes in both OR and WA of all places! And the surrounding states/provinces can road trip it. The raptor owners groups I'm part of definitely do this. I take your point though, you east coasters don't have as many areas where you can let these trucks stretch their legs!
You're dead on about the WD hitch! I had a weighsafe hitch to level and anti-sway with my raptor. Did a 3 state, 2000 mile road trip with a 5k lb travel trailer. Zero drama, dead level, no more sway, as much power as you need to pass anything, even uphill and 400 mile freeway range (see if you get that in a TRX, haha!) shockingly good MPG. And then you disconnect the trailer, air down and hit 60mph in the dunes! These trucks are amazing.
Yeah. I think this truck was aimed at the SW, particularly SoCal where a lot of off road setups are judged.
Great job guys! You two have built this channel from the ground up and have produced consistently high quality, relevant and fun to watch videos. Congratulations to a couple good ol' Canadian boys........ good stuff. Certainly more than earned my sub. Your channel, Savagegeese, Alex on Autos and anything to do with Andre on TFL are, IMHO, the cream of the crop.
The Raptor is fantastic and the TRX is, well the TRX...... nothing compares. Gotta love RAM. Seeing the placement of Ford, and more particularly the Powerboost, on your Accelertion Leaderboard makes me all the more excited for my Powerboost to arrive in the spring.
You're making us blush... guess we earned a donut eh?
@@TruckKing From one Canadian born to another.... I'll swing by the drive through at Tim's Lol Seasons Greetings
Pretty sweet, but gimme that suspension with the XL powerboost and zero farkles. Like a Workman Power Wagon...Some of us want all the mechanical, and can do without the price tag of all the fluff.
That would be really good for prerunner builds and play vehicles. However, Ford would be losing money by doing that, and one of the strongest points of a Raptor is that it is both a great daily and fun weekender.
Than your payload would be under 1k pounds. The PowerBoost is pretty heavy
I really want a blue v8 Raptor. Gotta keep at my goals! 🤞
There’s one thing for sure Ford does trucks right
You guys deserve way more subscribers. Excellent content as usual.
We agree!
Your channel gives better more comprehensive reviews now that you've added that ramp,(which could also be used to flex 4x4's) keep up the awesome reviews, you've got a fan in me!!
Great to hear!
Thanks for the videos! I really enjoy your guys channel.
If I were young and rich I’d have a Raptor for my everyday truck and a TRX for my go to Church truck on Sunday Morning, Sunday Night and Wednesday Night truck, great review you bunch of Canucks, like Red Green with horsepower!!!
Interesting spaghetti exhaust just for more grunt. Engineers must have had a brain fart. ..
Great video! I'd love to see how the new TRD Pro compares, honestly this is one of the first Ford trucks I'd be willing drop that coin on.
11:08 gonna need all those camera to park it at the mall
I feel 37 package makes the truck looks much better
Great video! Very practical and real world usable. The ramp is a game changer. Very nice! 👍
Thanks! 👍
Love mine
Great daily driver
Do you know, can you get real, softer rubber snow tires, not just the 3 peak winter rated all seasons or all terrains, in that 37 tire size? And what is the specific size of those stock 37's? (My little Jeep that I will be replacing has 235/70 R16's for instance). How about with the 35's? Oh, and with those coil springs and no leafs at both ends, do you think this actually drives smoother, more buttery smooth, on the highways as say a Platinum? As usual, always useful vids. Thanks.
As soon as I give my Sierra enough payload to drop the rear just an inch, I get cars flashing their high beams at me when driving at night.
I LOVE this truck ❤️❣️
I Always enjoy your guy’s video. Keep up the great work.
Thanks! Will do!
Could you damage the turbos when fording water pretty much up to air intake? Recently had to use mine during a flood and was probably above recommended water depth
That truck would be great for Arizona Store runs
Raptor is FORDS halo truck. Ram TRX is a super truck. My $100,000 is on TRX 6.2L supercharger.
Merry Christmas Truck King
You too
Merry Christmas Truck King.. Howard ..Steve..Matt. Enjoy the weekend Guys. Excellent year!!😃
Same to you
“If I wanted my wife in the truck, I’d have brought her” 🤣🤣🤣
I would like to know why your cameras on that truck work while driving while my 2021 PowerBoost gives me a message that says they are deactivated in motion for safety. Wonder if the trailer hookup activated it.
Feel like this would be some fun off road in oro just north of barrie
Yes!! LOVE the Raptor. But I'm really looking forward to the Raptor R. Oh yeah.. FORD please add an HeadsUp display.
I’m really debating between the 37 and 35. I like the look and ground clearance of the 37 but the more limited suspension travel and articulation is kind of a big deal.
Fancy seeing you here! I've run with a lot of 37s (think you have too) and for the high speed stuff I've not noticed a performance gain. They do have constant problems with stuff breaking, clearance, etc. That should be fixed from the factory, but even Ford said 35s are better except for low speed crawling. The added rolling weight and diminished clearance is more of a detriment IMO
I bet the 37s will be better in just about every situation off road. They will roll over rocks and holes better both at speed and going slow . My worry about the 37 was more about daily driving affecting fuel economy and handling but all the reviews i’ve seen make it sound like ford did a really good job with it.
@@T4nkcommander I get around!
@@peachpole TRX has far better RTI score than the 37 Raptor. Less travel, more rolling resistance = worse for what the truck was intended for. High speed desert running.
@@jabroni6199 I’m not going to try and change your mind but the benefits of a larger tire are difficult to type out on a keyboard. If the raptor gives up a significant amount of travel with the 37 that would be a problem but I doubt ford would allow that.
If I wanted to buy a raptor to thrash in the desert. I would buy the 37 version. It’s just going to roll through holes and g-outs better and make rocks feel smaller. It helps that the KO2 is a nice light 37 as well. Just my opinion.
Excellent video thanks 😊
Oooh a cool new ramp, you just about lost me after that ... excellent review
I canceled my order for thr crankshaft recall and the steering recall those are no joke .. its deadly manufacture defect
@Truck King What was max towing on this specific truck? Raptors are advertised as having max towing of 8,200 and max payload of 1,400. Steven read the max payload sticker on this truck as 1,270lb. Was the 8,200lb max towing you mentioned the max for the model? Or max for this particular truck and what was on the label? Either way, with 7,000 pound trailer and you two in it, you were in the ballpark of max payload. If one was towing max trailer weight of 8,200, then 1,270 max payload - 820 tongue weight only leaves only 450 lbs of payload for driver, passengers, cargo, tools, supplies, etc.
That being said, like with most pickups, if you are regularly towing over 2/3 (66%) of the max tow rating (regularly meaning every weekend), you will likely be better served with a pickup with more capability. 2/3 of max towing seems to be a reasonable place to be towing regularly in comfort. Sure you can tow right at max, but having some leeway makes for a lot more comfortable trips.
Love the wife comment from your dad. Made the show
Really nice seeing the Raptor in its element. Sure, with 500 fewer pounds and no V8 hanging off its nose, the Raptor will be more nimble in this setting. But the problem with that is very few will do this often, in comparison to being daily drivers and highway cruisers. That's where the TRX shines. Quite literally the best ride comfort, cabin isolation, and luxury feel of any mass-produced truck. Plus, when the Raptor R comes out, the weight advantage and nimbleness will likely fade.
All of this said: There is a reason beyond offroading on why the Raptor and TRX are so sought after. They're quite literally the Swiss army knife of vehicles. Family, luxury, towing, hauling, highway crusing...all packed with the latest tech. You truly can't go wrong with either...except paying 20K over sticker currently!
Unless you want something that'll actually last longer than 10-15 years.
The 3.5 Ecoboost is slightly heavier than the current Coyote 5.0.
@@KiyaWarrior very true, which is why a TRD PRO is the better option, more reliable and practical, yet still more capable than what 99% of people need.
@@nismomike3182 it is about power/weight, and also efficiency. The 3.5 - to say nothing of the High Output version the Raptor has - thus becomes the obvious choice.
Thats why the TRX is slower offroad...worse suspension with a heavier nose. Even in my Gen 2 the suspension and heavy front end is a constantly limiting factor - it was obvious to anyone paying attention that the TRX was going to be worse in Baja based on physics alone.
@@T4nkcommander The OP said "Sure, with 500 fewer pounds and no V8 hanging off its nose, the Raptor will be more nimble in this setting." And then he concluded "When the Raptor R comes out, the weight advantage and nimbleness will likely fade."
My point was that the 3.5 Eco Boost is not the light weight powertrain many people assume it is. Adding a high output Coyote V8 alone will not affect the Raptors nibbleness and handling one bit.
Airlift 1000 bags for the raptor level it out nicely
Cool truck and great video! V8 grunt is needed in this truck though.
I wish you did your power line course
Appreciate your videos
Great car
Great video. For some reason this video is hard to find, maybe the algorithm is off.
did you have to have the engine on to run the pro power pack
Ford took the tailgate design on the top, the rear suspension setup design off of the Nissan Navara from Thailand, the twin turbo V6, the GT-R.
In my personal opinion I believe the bronco will put a dent into the raptor sales due to not having a SC V8 version yet. A 2.7l ecoboost with the most basic power mods will make just as much power if not more than a stock 3.5l ecoboost. Even the 2.3l ecoboost engines make great power when tuned. I personally would go 7.3l f250 tremor over the current raptor at suggested market price.
One again there is Absolutely No Replacement for Displacement! Lol 😂
Great review! As a Chevy ZR2 owner, I’ve been wrestling with upgrading to the Raptor, but it just doesn’t seem like a good of a value… My ZR2 can pretty much do anything the Raptor can off-road, and I’ll argue the ZR2 is more versatile since it can fit on tighter trails. Of course the ZR2 lacks in the interior refinement/bells and whistles that the Raptor boasts…but that’s not really why you buy an off-road truck is it? The Raptor clearly tows more, but then again, I don’t have anything to tow at the moment 😬
pure opinion. leaf springs never beat coils off road or for comfort
That’s why they are called daytime running lights
When you say different frame, is it just for the spare tire at the rear? Different shocks 1 inch shaft versus seveneights is that the only difference In suspension?
I'm sure if's there's anyone who can complain about a Ford product it would be you and your father, and I see your still talking about the TRX but I think you should wait until you've tried the Raptor R and then you can compare that to the TRX
I mean, my gen 2 flexes plenty still with the leaf spring, but multi-link is better.
You should go back to Boulder Colorado and to TFL
That rear suspension should be on every F150 sold...the rough riding and juttering leaf springs should be an option for those that need the extra payload.
Then every f150 would need air bags to tow. Ride quality is much better but towing and payload is hurt a lot.
@@bobdennis4801 stiffer coils will fix that and it's cheap
Agree or even an air ride system available for the f150s a lot of people put them on the f-150s
@@bobdennis4801 Air bags are a weak spot...just ask anyone whos spent thousands to replace a failed air suspension on RAM trucks with a coil setup.
Sounds better. Wish ford did a 6 to 1 or a un equal length header to make it sound wild but not possible
How big of a gas tank does it have? And is there a option to go bigger with gas prices the way they are now.
The exhaust was never ment to sound like a V8 it was done to make it sound better
Can you take the 2022 tundra pro on the same run when it comes out. I would love to know how much better the Raptor feels.
It’s got a baby driveshaft
If I wanted my wife in the car, I would've brought her. XD
How would the Ram, AT4 and TRDPRO half tons do on that trail compared to the Raptor? If fine then maybe the Raptor would be over kill on that type of trail?
4k camera for Christmas? :D
Grear video! Unfortunately I could never buy another ecoboost Raptor due to the poor reliability (and sound). Cam phaser issues, rod knock, starter motors sticking, etc are just a few of the common problems.
Also, I think once you add a 5.2 Predator engine to the Raptor R, plus upgrade all of the Powertrain and suspension components to be able to handle the power offroad, you'll be as heavy as, or heavier than, a TRX. At point the Raptor loses amy advantage it had over the heavy Ram. Maybe GM and Toyota will get into the offroad game and give us some good competition!
Yeah no extremely reliable and better than the trx in every way
I have had 2 ecoboosts. Zero problems. 10 years. Please provide facts rather than generalities because you have none.
never be as heavy as TRX. Its an aluminum truck and a V6. You make no sense with your comments again unsupported by any data.
Most ppl who drive this truck dont ise it as it was designed for, ergo you may as well buy a regular f150. Its more of a status symbol. Just my opinion it does a lot of thing ok but nothing well, except perhaps hardcore offorad soaking up the bumps.
For 90-100k this truck should perform like it did.
Those tires are going to be expensive to replace and will need to be replaced often. The think the number 37 is tacky.
So DRLs are designed to be on on rainy days not headlights
Any good trials in southern Ontario for a basic f150 I’m in the wasaga beach area
🎅🎅🎅🎅🎅Have you ever considered doing a compare/contrast between an AWD Transit Van & some other 4*4 (likely an SUV) in an offroad environment❓❓❓❓❓
I know it's not really a truck - but it can haul & tow a reasonable amount and now has AWD...
Good idea - we'll look into it. We are limited by what we can borrow - just saying.
@@TruckKing I realise ya'll know better but I'll say it anyhow
Don't get a Dually
There are 3 lengths of Transit vans - Don't get the longest one.
The shortest would be gold...
I look forward to the "Amazon off-road" transit review.
I can’t find it at the dealership 😃 are they even existed
Is there much difference between northern Michigan and Ontario? (terrain, weather, ect)
Our weather is erratic so it's hard to say 😂 I'm pretty sure they're from Northern Ontario which the weather is really cold and it does snow a lot sometimes they have a meter of snow there
Well, my F250 would definitely tow that trailer better but if I tried matching the Raptor off road first, the tow test would have to wait until I was done with multiple trips to a chiropractor and possibly some repairs to the truck. That is assuming I could even reach the Raptors speed off road without becoming totally uncontrollable.
Here's a complaint... Too expensive
What about the seats with the 37 package? Do they suck?
Your Dad is grumpy today.
Steve made me skip lunch.
me pone nervioso que tenga puesto así el cinturón.