quite the hay baler there, bet it'll mow corn stalks too. Very AWESOME, I'm glad you added the heat, any sort of vacumne seems to make the mix cooler and less volitaile.Ogle had to add heaters to his system to bring up the efficiency too
I really like the simplicity of this design. Thank you for all the videos you make. I'm designing a wick evaporative fuel vaporizer based on your concept and knowledge, for my four cylinder 1.5 liter car. I'm interested in how running a gasoline engine on fumes, will affect fuel consumption, and most importantly, exhaust emissions such as carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons. Thank you vaporkid. You explain your experiments very well. I'm very grateful you share your work with everyone to learn from. I've learn a lot from watching your videos and listening to how you understand what you are doing. I have a lot that I look forward to learning.
Good going man, I don't see too many naysayers sounding off after you proved them wrong! This is the only way this technology is ever going to see the light of day. The corporate thieves have no interest in developing such a thing. The only way is to put it out there and show people that this isn't a pipe dream and it can be done in a crude but elegant way. Imagine the efficiency that could be gained by a bunch of eggheads in a lab setting. The future is truly in the hands of naturally intelligent and inquisitive people like yourself. Thank you so much!
my 1986 BUICK REGAL non turbo has a heater underneath the carburetor that vaporizes the gas before it goes into the intake manifold but they say it;s called a EFE heater gasket that the computer turns off.
you know for every time some body has come up with something to get good gas mileage, the big boys will put a stop to it, poge was bought out bake it around 1934, high mileage carb tom ougal was killed over it, Stan Myers was killed over it, so no matter what you had going you would never get it out, they would not let you
you know the problem with some inventors? is they should do like the US government does because this engineer years ago told he work on some government stuff but didn't know what the hell they were building. he told me when the government creates a new air craft or what ever it may be they don't put all their eggs into the same basket. Tom and Myers should put patents on there inventions piece by piece so the big boys wouldn't know what there building and call it something else besides gas saver. and when everything is complete then they could created a final and last invention that would allow buyers to put it together like lego box. but each one of the separate devices would have to be already on the market under a different name for it's uses before the next piece of their invention is patented. like Myers could of called his electrolyzer a home electrolysis machine that removes rust from metal or something.
This was done in 1935 on a V8 Ford engine and got 205 MPG, tested by Ford motor co. in Canada. A man named Pogue. He was told never to talk about it. I have the patent drawings and info about it. Your correct it will run on vapor.
My only concern is the thing flopping around dumping a bunch of liquid gas into your tube that runs to the engine either flooding it out, or making it run way too fast. But seeing your previous videos, it would take a lot of tilting to do that. I really like your fuel warmer setup, it also makes it a very clean burning engine as it recycles the carbon monoxide into carbon dioxide. I forget, did you say in your last video that the exhaust smelled like cookies? And, have you ever experimented with wood gas?
Do you really need to have an exhaust gas recirculation on it other than for heating the fuel ? Doesn't seem like there would be much coming out other than hot moist air
no the t that you see is just around the exhaust pipe it self, the engine is drawing the hot air off the pipe and going in the ammo box warming the vapor up.
vaporkid man Im glad the big guys haven't got you. I see some of these guys install a gas vaporizer on their vehicle then they turn a valve under the hood to turn off the fuel. just to show that it can run off of gas vapors. it would be easier to install a electric fuel pump with a kill switch or maybe 2 electric fuel pumps with a kill switch for each one. use a electric fuel pump to suck the vapors out the vaporizer into the carburetor, also they have high volume electric fuel pumps for racing too. then the transition from gas to vapor can be done behind the drivers seat. look into www.jcwhitney.com sell them and all types of stuff.
before i bought my new truck, i was running my dodge ram 318 just off of wicks, i could crank it for 5 sec and it would start right off with out gasoline and with out switching over . the big boys wont bother you in less you try to get this out on the road, best thing is to put it on your car for your self and pass the gas gas stations a whole lot less.
There's another thing. I noticed when a car is at idle the vacuum is strong but when the accelerator is pressed it becomes weak. what would happen if you bought a electric vacuum pump or fume pump and shoot it into your intake ? that way it would stay constant on delivering gas vapors and plus you could control the amount delivered. what you think ?
hey homie, thanks for your really great videos. May I suggest an improvement? Forget about trying to prove anything to the trolls and the f**kwits. You have a big following of people who appreciate your work. The trolls will still be trolls no matter what you say or do.
yo vaporkid I needed to know, if going from installing a vaporizer on a lawn mower to a vehicle. how do you determine how big the vaporizer should be to run on 100% vapors at idle and at full throttle ? at bills automotive they just showed youtube watcher his vaporizer rig but nobody really talks about how much vapor gas you need to produce for V4, V6 and V8s engines because I noticed his vaporizer hose was bigger then other youtubers vaporizer hoses.
yea i was told by bill that you at least half to have a 2 inch pipe for a V8 on the lawn mower you can get by with a 3/8 pipe cuse you have only 1 cyl.
Ok what about the container that has the gas, how big does it have to be to run v4, v6 or v8 engines? I figure the smaller the gas container the faster it will build pressure and the bigger the container the longer it would take to build pressure.
when you run this type of system the tank will not be pressurized, the engine vacuum will draw air through the box picking up the vapor going in to the throttle body of the engine.i would use a 1 gal tank and would have a 1/2 gal of gas in it.
Vapor kid why is it that for vehicles that's a v4, v6 or v8 don't collect gas vapors from the fuel tank that's already installed on car ? would it be simple to collect gas vapors from that instead with a flash back arrestor?
you could, but one thing to think about, as air is being draw ed in through the tank the gas will get ice cold, you half to draw warm air through the tank with it so the gas vapor will not want to condense back to a liquid from the cold air mixing with it. one good thing about doing it that way, is that the fuel pump is always circulating the gas around in side, thats the key to keep the gas in motion!
OK Vaporkid. You act like this is some big discovery that an engine will run on vapor. ALL engines run on vapor. For the last time, LIQUID GASOLINE DOES NOT BURN. You talk like every internal combustion engine is just pouring liquid gasoline into the cylinders. THEY DO NOT OPERATE THIS WAY. If you really want to show us that your system is actually a big improvement over the normal engine you need to run a real comparison test. (BTW, this video shows nothing to prove it does not still have it's gas tank and carburetor in place.) You need to take 2 identical lawnmowers, with identical engines, one being stock and the other with your system installed. I need to see the gas tank and carburetor removed, your system attached, equal amounts of measured gasoline for both, tachometer attached so that both are running the exact same rpm, and a continuous video of them running simultaneously. If the stock model runs out of gas and yours runs considerably longer, I'll believe you. Why am I so skeptical of your model? First, because You Tube is full of perpetual motion machines that are all proven fake. Way too many people looking for their 5 minutes of fame. Second, I have read several scientific journals on gasoline's potential energy. With all the mechanical friction in an engine, you will never reach full efficiency. Using thermal dynamics, BTU calculations, etc. it has been stated that the potential energy in gasoline could provide a maximum of 200 mpg in a car. At best the internal combustion engine is 30% efficient. There is too much friction within the engine, transmission, differential, wheel bearings, tires on the road and wind to ever achieve gasoline's full potential. That will probably change soon as some people have come up with a new material to cut the friction of some of the engine parts by over 70%. THAT will cause the big breakthrough in mileage you all are looking for. And when it comes to a car, how are you going to boost the vapor to increase engine rpm wen you hit the accelerator? Again, your little system is simply making a carburetor out of a bottle with a wick in it and we only have your word that it is more efficient than a standard carburetor.
+g oogle There's nothing there about me. It's about a lame concept. When you develop enough of a vocabulary to respond intelligently I'll respond again. Calling me a dick over and over for pointing out massive flaws in vapor kids little experiment is showing a very large lack of intelligence. Become mature past first grade level troll.
I believe you dude. I believed you when it didn't have a gas tank and the only thing on it was that glass mason jar, but now you done added a military style tool box to it also. Anybody can now argue that there is a gas tank in that tool box. I believed you before this step.
quite the hay baler there, bet it'll mow corn stalks too. Very AWESOME, I'm glad you added the heat, any sort of vacumne seems to make the mix cooler and less volitaile.Ogle had to add heaters to his system to bring up the efficiency too
I like your ammo can for the vaporizer! Nicely made! Keep it up!
yo, this lawnmower, is like, the god of all lawnmowers. holy shit that thing is LOUD!
I really like the simplicity of this design. Thank you for all the videos you make. I'm designing a wick evaporative fuel vaporizer based on your concept and knowledge, for my four cylinder 1.5 liter car. I'm interested in how running a gasoline engine on fumes, will affect fuel consumption, and most importantly, exhaust emissions such as carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons. Thank you vaporkid. You explain your experiments very well. I'm very grateful you share your work with everyone to learn from. I've learn a lot from watching your videos and listening to how you understand what you are doing. I have a lot that I look forward to learning.
Good going man, I don't see too many naysayers sounding off after you proved them wrong! This is the only way this technology is ever going to see the light of day. The corporate thieves have no interest in developing such a thing. The only way is to put it out there and show people that this isn't a pipe dream and it can be done in a crude but elegant way. Imagine the efficiency that could be gained by a bunch of eggheads in a lab setting. The future is truly in the hands of naturally intelligent and inquisitive people like yourself. Thank you so much!
my 1986 BUICK REGAL non turbo has a heater underneath the carburetor that vaporizes the gas before it goes into the intake manifold but they say it;s called a EFE heater gasket that the computer turns off.
you know for every time some body has come up with something to get good gas mileage, the big boys will put a stop to it, poge was bought out bake it around 1934, high mileage carb tom ougal was killed over it, Stan Myers was killed over it, so no matter what you had going you would never get it out, they would not let you
you know the problem with some inventors?
is they should do like the US government does because this engineer years ago told
he work on some government stuff but didn't know what the hell they were building. he told me when the government creates a new air craft or what ever it may be they don't put all their eggs into the same basket. Tom and Myers should put patents on there inventions
piece by piece so the big boys wouldn't know what there building and call it something else
besides gas saver. and when everything is complete then they could created a final and last invention that would allow buyers to put it
together like lego box. but each one of the separate devices would have to be already on the market under a different name for it's uses before the next piece of their invention is patented. like Myers could of called his electrolyzer a home electrolysis machine that removes rust from metal or something.
Vaporkid you ever heard of a spark plug called
"Firestorm Spark Plugs" ?
FUNK BOOGIE yep there you go.
FUNK BOOGIE yea i have, you can get them from ebay, or amazon, there expensive, they run like 19 dollars for one plug and more on some.
This was done in 1935 on a V8 Ford engine and got 205 MPG, tested by Ford motor co. in Canada. A man named Pogue. He was told never to talk about it. I have the patent drawings and info about it. Your correct it will run on vapor.
Love it! You are the man! Thank you!
My only concern is the thing flopping around dumping a bunch of liquid gas into your tube that runs to the engine either flooding it out, or making it run way too fast. But seeing your previous videos, it would take a lot of tilting to do that. I really like your fuel warmer setup, it also makes it a very clean burning engine as it recycles the carbon monoxide into carbon dioxide. I forget, did you say in your last video that the exhaust smelled like cookies? And, have you ever experimented with wood gas?
you showed them!!good job. keep going forward
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Do you really need to have an exhaust gas recirculation on it other than for heating the fuel ? Doesn't seem like there would be much coming out other than hot moist air
no the t that you see is just around the exhaust pipe it self, the engine is drawing the hot air off the pipe and going in the ammo box warming the vapor up.
TheVaporkid ok cool does that make a better improvement ?
prototype9000 yes it will any time you heat the vapor it will make it run just that much better,
+TheVaporkid What size of pip are you using 1/2 inch or 3/8
thats pretty awesome! i want to make one, but what is the point with the T coming out of the exhaust? is it sending exhaust air back to the gas???
the tee is just bigger then the exhaust, its picking hot air off the hot exhaust pipe and warming the vapor going in to the engine
oh that makes a heck of a lot more sense hahah good job! cant wait to build one!
that is cool but sad that big business and government rap us at the pump
Is your water bubbler needed to cool the motor down? Is it dangerous for the motor without water cooling?
these lawn mower are air cooled
So what's in the ammo box?
vaporkid man Im glad the big guys haven't got you. I see some of these guys install a gas vaporizer on their vehicle then they turn a valve under the hood to turn off the fuel. just to show that it can run off of gas vapors. it would be easier to install a electric fuel pump with a kill switch or maybe 2 electric fuel pumps with a kill switch for each one. use a electric fuel pump to suck the vapors out the vaporizer into the carburetor, also they have high volume electric fuel pumps for racing too. then the transition from gas to vapor can be done behind the drivers seat. look into www.jcwhitney.com sell them and all types of stuff.
before i bought my new truck, i was running my dodge ram 318 just off of wicks, i could crank it for 5 sec and it would start right off with out gasoline and with out switching over . the big boys wont bother you in less you try to get this out on the road, best thing is to put it on your car for your self and pass the gas gas stations a whole lot less.
There's another thing. I noticed when a car is at idle the vacuum is strong but when the accelerator is pressed it becomes weak.
what would happen if you bought a electric vacuum pump or fume pump and shoot it into your intake ? that way it would stay constant on delivering gas vapors and plus you could
control the amount delivered. what you think ?
hey homie, thanks for your really great videos. May I suggest an improvement? Forget about trying to prove anything to the trolls and the f**kwits. You have a big following of people who appreciate your work. The trolls will still be trolls no matter what you say or do.
yo vaporkid I needed to know, if going from installing a vaporizer on a lawn mower to a vehicle. how do you determine how big the vaporizer should be to run on 100% vapors at idle and at full throttle ? at bills automotive they just showed youtube watcher his vaporizer rig but nobody really talks about how much vapor gas you need to produce for V4, V6 and V8s engines because I noticed his vaporizer hose was bigger then other
youtubers vaporizer hoses.
yea i was told by bill that you at least half to have a 2 inch pipe for a V8 on the lawn mower you can get by with a 3/8 pipe cuse you have only 1 cyl.
Ok what about the container that has the gas, how big does it have to be to run v4, v6 or v8
engines? I figure the smaller the gas container
the faster it will build pressure and the bigger the container the longer it would take to build pressure.
when you run this type of system the tank will not be pressurized, the engine vacuum will draw air through the box picking up the vapor going in to the throttle body of the engine.i would use a 1 gal tank and would have a 1/2 gal of gas in it.
Vapor kid why is it that for vehicles that's a v4, v6 or v8 don't collect gas vapors from the fuel tank that's already installed on car ?
would it be simple to collect gas vapors from that instead with a flash back arrestor?
you could, but one thing to think about, as air is being draw ed in through the tank the gas will get ice cold, you half to draw warm air through the tank with it so the gas vapor will not want to condense back to a liquid from the cold air mixing with it. one good thing about doing it that way, is that the fuel pump is always circulating the gas around in side, thats the key to keep the gas in motion!
hi vapour please can you help me with car to run on vapour
Keep up your work! BUT be careful because there are people who will do ANYTHING to stop you! ie: Look up what happened to Stanley Myers.
No your not, this is real everybody I'm going to make a science fair project abought this vs gas fuel
cool
OK Vaporkid. You act like this is some big discovery that an engine will run on vapor. ALL engines run on vapor. For the last time, LIQUID GASOLINE DOES NOT BURN. You talk like every internal combustion engine is just pouring liquid gasoline into the cylinders. THEY DO NOT OPERATE THIS WAY. If you really want to show us that your system is actually a big improvement over the normal engine you need to run a real comparison test. (BTW, this video shows nothing to prove it does not still have it's gas tank and carburetor in place.) You need to take 2 identical lawnmowers, with identical engines, one being stock and the other with your system installed. I need to see the gas tank and carburetor removed, your system attached, equal amounts of measured gasoline for both, tachometer attached so that both are running the exact same rpm, and a continuous video of them running simultaneously. If the stock model runs out of gas and yours runs considerably longer, I'll believe you. Why am I so skeptical of your model? First, because You Tube is full of perpetual motion machines that are all proven fake. Way too many people looking for their 5 minutes of fame. Second, I have read several scientific journals on gasoline's potential energy. With all the mechanical friction in an engine, you will never reach full efficiency. Using thermal dynamics, BTU calculations, etc. it has been stated that the potential energy in gasoline could provide a maximum of 200 mpg in a car. At best the internal combustion engine is 30% efficient. There is too much friction within the engine, transmission, differential, wheel bearings, tires on the road and wind to ever achieve gasoline's full potential. That will probably change soon as some people have come up with a new material to cut the friction of some of the engine parts by over 70%. THAT will cause the big breakthrough in mileage you all are looking for. And when it comes to a car, how are you going to boost the vapor to increase engine rpm wen you hit the accelerator? Again, your little system is simply making a carburetor out of a bottle with a wick in it and we only have your word that it is more efficient than a standard carburetor.
+g oogle ohhhh I'm so burned. Can't handle the truth, eh?
+g oogle think what you want, I'm a hell of a lot smarter than you. When ever your type can't explain science you start name calling.
Still a dick.....
+g oogle What are you, like 5?
+g oogle There's nothing there about me. It's about a lame concept. When you develop enough of a vocabulary to respond intelligently I'll respond again. Calling me a dick over and over for pointing out massive flaws in vapor kids little experiment is showing a very large lack of intelligence. Become mature past first grade level troll.
I believe you dude. I believed you when it didn't have a gas tank and the only thing on it was that glass mason jar, but now you done added a military style tool box to it also. Anybody can now argue that there is a gas tank in that tool box. I believed you before this step.