i'm a fairly new player so forgive me if i'm asking a stupid question butttttttttt, is commander a form of play like standard/modern/pauper? how is it different? I thought they were just a type of deck you could buy. sorry if this question is so bad it makes you cringe
Bruceskyy yes. Commander is a casual format much like pauper. It takes a 99 card deck and a commander. Your deck must contain cards that are only in your commanders color identity. Its a fun format ment to have communication and magic at the center.
Also, just to set it straight, when translated into Chinese the word 'noble' in Falkenrath Noble was translated as 贵族 (gui4zu2) and 'aristocrat' in Falkenrath Aristocrat as 豪族 (hao2zu2). The first is a direct and accurate translation of the word and the second technically means 'family' though the connotation is that of a powerful, rich, or important group of people.
You all mentioned it many times so I'm sure you're already aware, but YES more commander this is some of the best quality content and you all are an amazing playgroup. Almost halfway through hoping Cam pulls this win out. makes all the blue player jokes that much better seeing this pauper pirate shutting people down, although Kathleen with the indiscriminate board wipes was amazing and Drana is a personal favorite of mine from my W/B Warriors deck in BFZ standard x) But all the decks are super awesome and it's ridic and I'm glad I got to see an all-black edh game.
Peregrine drake costs 4U, and harpy costs UB. Cam had 5 lands, 1 of which taps for UB. Each cast of peregrine drake gives Cam 1 excess mana since it untaps 5 lands. However, to cast the harpy, even after bouncing it back at the cost of 1 life, he requires 2 mana. So Cam loses out on 1 mana with each iteration. Am I crazy or does the 'combo' as described in 1:04:00 make no sense?
This is a replacement effect. It applies last and may apply multiple times to an event. The creature never goes to the original destination zone and will not trigger abilities that trigger based on going there (e.g. "dies" triggers)!
I love how different commander playgroups are. This would be a refreshing difference from my store's meta. (Which went from pre-cons to armageddon and stasis in the span of 4 months)
"I have...6 decks. I have a lot." -Graham. I have 17. At least one for each tri-color combo, and one for each quad-color combo. Bant - Rafiq Enchantments Esper - Dromar ETB/Flicker Grixis - Jeleva Big Spells Jund - Prossh Sacrifice & Death Naya - Samut Multicolor Abzan - Ghave Token Army Jeskai - Zedruu Junk Sultai - Sidisi Zombies and Damia Control Mardu - Tariel Destruction/Good Stuff Temur - Riku Good Stuff & Intet Combo Whiteless - Vial Smasher & Kydele Draw Power Blueless - Bruse Tarl & Ikra Shidiqi "Big Butts" (Toughness aka Doran-Red) Blackless - Kynaios & Tiro Bromance Redless - Atraxa Counter Value (Superfriends Sub-theme) Greenless- Akiri & Silas Renn Artifact Toolbox
A comment on the Overlay. For those of us who are color blind or lean that direction, It is nearly impossible to discern the difference between Graham's and Ben's colors.
a question (without any harmful sides or whatever) if it is all labeled to what is what, does the color even matter at that point? I would understand if some color makes what is written blurry,but if not why would the color matter?
OH MY GOD I SAW THIS ON THE STREAM HIGHLIGHTS ON LIVE FOREVER AGO AND I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS VIDEO AND IT'S FINALLY BEEN UPLOADED I'M SO HAPPY GO CAM!!!
@1:53:00 "Its roots are equally happy to drink the water of a clear stream or the oily blood of a Phyrexian warrior." I never knew I wanted to see a Compleated Treefolk until now.
Pretty cool layout, although perhaps we don't need to see everyone's faces all of the time. The extra space would be great to get a better view of the board and/or the cards after you scan them. I still can't read the cards at full screen 720p.
Ben's List: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/23-06-17-aristocrats-edh/ Cam's List: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ramirez-cant-hear-you-until-you-apologize/ Sadly I could not find an up to date version of Graham and Kathleen's lists, but I found an older version of Graham's from the episode of the Command Zone which he was a guest on: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/cmdz-sapling-of-colfenor-graham-stark-lrr/
I'm a little late to the party but: Shawty growin apples on the trees Birch with the ferns (with the ferns) The whole forest lookin at herrr She tryin'a gro' (tryin'a gro'), next thang you know Shawty got loam-loam-loam-loam-loam-loam-loam-loam Them hanging pot plants And the seedlings wit the sap (wit the sap) She turned around and gave that big oak tree a smack (AYY!!) She tryin'a gro' (tryin'a gro'), next thang you know Shawty got loam-loam-loam-loam-loam-loam-loam-loam Cmon
Any time I see that full art Damnation I just get mad because I racked up enough reward points that they were supposed to send me one, and they just never did...
There are only 2 common legendary creatures, Chandler and Jovan, both in mono-red. Cameron's is from Legends which is a set where the symbol did not change based on rarity. It is an Uncommon if I remember correctly.
really did expect some storm combo there, with the drake and the harpy Cause common printed storm cards are banned in pauper, but not in EDH-Pauper hybrid
"Fucking Cameron; let me play Magic the Gathering!!!" Probably my favourite moment, especially because Cam gets to be a wise Blue player. Cam's story about moving to a new town definitely resonated as well :P
I thought Cam was going to storm off there. Also that Cheatyface story - he actually legitimately cheated there. You can cheat Cheatyface into play but *only from your hand* - you have to draw it naturally.
Is the center of the board, video edited in or did they build/program a contraption to do that "Last card played" overlay? I want to replicate it if possible
The fruit Oot - 99 cards, one of each max, only cards that match your commander's colours (artifacts are okay, unless they have effects that use non-commander colours)
2:44:58 - I played a commander game where an opponent played an overloaded cyclonic rift and I countered it with pyroblast. Literally the only time I have had fun with Cyclonic Rift.
Dear God I'm glad the mics don't pick up their table tapping. I was listening with a headset and though there was an super intense racquet ball game going on two rooms down xD
Derevi also ignores commander tax cause she has an ability that says pay 1GWU put Derevi onto the battlefield from the command zone so she's potentially an instant speed commander.
If you put the commander in the command zone as a replacement effect, the rest of path to exile will fizzle and you wont get a basic land. Thats kind of why its good in commander...
No you still get to search. Path doesn't care what happens to the creature, as long as it has a legal target when it resolves the whole spell goes off.
Hey guys I just started running my own commander nights and i was wondering, what do you use to scan the cards with the tablet to have them show up on the screen?
If you reach 7 thrulls, Endrek Sahr dies because the Thrulls rebell on him. Check the Gamepedia article on the Order of the Ebon Hand for more on that.
I actually agree with a taking back all lands being worse for play than Cyclonic Rift. Cyclonic Rift might (and, well, is) a huge pain, but at least once it's used your opponents have the decency to kill you quickly. You can re-establish a board state right after an Upheaval, but it's rarely one that allows a fast victory, usually it's more just a reset button, and it's followed by dead turns, and it's just horrible.
Please sir, I'd like some more.
MTG Muddstah ahhh I love your content too! Anybody reading this, please sub!
i should address this to you, PLEASE SIR MORE 10 MIN COMMANDER SPEEDRUN CONTENT SIR
i'm a fairly new player so forgive me if i'm asking a stupid question butttttttttt, is commander a form of play like standard/modern/pauper? how is it different? I thought they were just a type of deck you could buy. sorry if this question is so bad it makes you cringe
i guess to add to this, are commander decks something you can take to FNM?
Bruceskyy yes. Commander is a casual format much like pauper.
It takes a 99 card deck and a commander. Your deck must contain cards that are only in your commanders color identity. Its a fun format ment to have communication and magic at the center.
Omg monthly commander would be amazing!!!
Just as "The command zone", "Star city Games" and theres one more. but forgot the name.
Yahaaaw194783 Goldfish
HAh ,agree :) but with less "!!!" excitement :)
yes please, more commander is just what we all want! I sadly missed this live but I would love to catch it live some time.
Also, just to set it straight, when translated into Chinese the word 'noble' in Falkenrath Noble was translated as 贵族 (gui4zu2) and 'aristocrat' in Falkenrath Aristocrat as 豪族 (hao2zu2). The first is a direct and accurate translation of the word and the second technically means 'family' though the connotation is that of a powerful, rich, or important group of people.
This is one of my most favorite streams. Just chill, casual kitchen table magic, and I can't wait for more.
I like it when they use there own decks better then a pre-con one
the Pre-con one....Remember when Surge had literally 20+ mana turn 4?
I've been waiting to see grahams deck for years. Thank you graham for finally showing us this forest of a deck.
this is my first exposure to commander. thank you guys or making the format loos real fun
More commander
yes plz
spencer jhette is Ben the one with the painted nails
YE
any night that you play EDH (commander) is always a good video.
i would love to see some of the new cards played with the planechase cards/deck.
Vanguard Archenemy Commander Planechase!! ... all at the same time.
+conspiracy
And I thought the matchedI have with my play group take a while, hooly
Un-Set constructed anyone?
+Kizer5Red Dear god...
Have everyone play their most competitive decks next time!
We'd love to see Kathleen's 'unfun' deck, Cam's Niv Mizzet deck, etc
Time traveler from 2019 here: I like the intro, but the camera angle and Kathleen's seat especially is just weird
I love this format so much! Also, 4 black decks makes me SO happy ^^
I love Commander and love watching the UA-camrs I love play Commander. Please do these more often!
You all mentioned it many times so I'm sure you're already aware, but YES more commander this is some of the best quality content and you all are an amazing playgroup. Almost halfway through hoping Cam pulls this win out. makes all the blue player jokes that much better seeing this pauper pirate shutting people down, although Kathleen with the indiscriminate board wipes was amazing and Drana is a personal favorite of mine from my W/B Warriors deck in BFZ standard x) But all the decks are super awesome and it's ridic and I'm glad I got to see an all-black edh game.
I really wanna see Kathleen's unfun deck in archenemy as her as the Archenemy!
an Un-Deck in EDH/Archenemy? that's crazy talk
Kizer5Red ? I meant the "Real" deck she mentioned at the beginning, saying it's "unfun"
Been there, played against that. Not fun for anyone, sadly.
Peregrine drake costs 4U, and harpy costs UB. Cam had 5 lands, 1 of which taps for UB. Each cast of peregrine drake gives Cam 1 excess mana since it untaps 5 lands. However, to cast the harpy, even after bouncing it back at the cost of 1 life, he requires 2 mana. So Cam loses out on 1 mana with each iteration. Am I crazy or does the 'combo' as described in 1:04:00 make no sense?
Kangeroo land.
I'm new to magic and this was immensely fun to watch. Subbing and hoping for more of this great content.
Ben's "FUCKING CAMERON!!!" was so SO real, I laughed so much
This is a replacement effect. It applies last and may apply multiple times to an event.
The creature never goes to the original destination zone and will not trigger abilities that trigger based on going there (e.g. "dies" triggers)!
I love how different commander playgroups are. This would be a refreshing difference from my store's meta. (Which went from pre-cons to armageddon and stasis in the span of 4 months)
Need more of this
"I have...6 decks. I have a lot." -Graham.
I have 17. At least one for each tri-color combo, and one for each quad-color combo.
Bant - Rafiq Enchantments
Esper - Dromar ETB/Flicker
Grixis - Jeleva Big Spells
Jund - Prossh Sacrifice & Death
Naya - Samut Multicolor
Abzan - Ghave Token Army
Jeskai - Zedruu Junk
Sultai - Sidisi Zombies and Damia Control
Mardu - Tariel Destruction/Good Stuff
Temur - Riku Good Stuff & Intet Combo
Whiteless - Vial Smasher & Kydele Draw Power
Blueless - Bruse Tarl & Ikra Shidiqi "Big Butts" (Toughness aka Doran-Red)
Blackless - Kynaios & Tiro Bromance
Redless - Atraxa Counter Value (Superfriends Sub-theme)
Greenless- Akiri & Silas Renn Artifact Toolbox
No one asked
Dark Heart of the Wood was the first MTG card I ever saw, back around the winter of 1994. The cool artwork stuck in my mind!
A comment on the Overlay. For those of us who are color blind or lean that direction, It is nearly impossible to discern the difference between Graham's and Ben's colors.
mithrane the outline connectes to the bok around them just follow the line
Ashark7773 Gaming that does not help with commander damage blocks. Either way, it is a design critique to help make future videos better.
mithrane ok i see what you are saying I thought you just ment what player goes to what board that was my bad
a question (without any harmful sides or whatever) if it is all labeled to what is what, does the color even matter at that point? I would understand if some color makes what is written blurry,but if not why would the color matter?
From a design perspective, color always matters. But yes, labels would help.
OH MY GOD I SAW THIS ON THE STREAM HIGHLIGHTS ON LIVE FOREVER AGO AND I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS VIDEO AND IT'S FINALLY BEEN UPLOADED I'M SO HAPPY GO CAM!!!
The commander replacement effect happens before hitting the graveyard, but after dieing. Meaning it dies, but doesn't end up in the graveyard.
@1:53:00
"Its roots are equally happy to drink the water of a clear stream or the oily blood of a Phyrexian warrior."
I never knew I wanted to see a Compleated Treefolk until now.
Pretty cool layout, although perhaps we don't need to see everyone's faces all of the time. The extra space would be great to get a better view of the board and/or the cards after you scan them. I still can't read the cards at full screen 720p.
Where are the deck lists?
Omg Cam yeeees you inspire me. That was a work of art. I love Dimir
Ben's List: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/23-06-17-aristocrats-edh/
Cam's List: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ramirez-cant-hear-you-until-you-apologize/
Sadly I could not find an up to date version of Graham and Kathleen's lists, but I found an older version of Graham's from the episode of the Command Zone which he was a guest on: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/cmdz-sapling-of-colfenor-graham-stark-lrr/
I see Graham finish counting when Kathleen forgets where she left off and I see the embodiment of marriage
More of this plz. Love you guys coming with your own fun brews.
Magic: The Gathering of Puns
Joshua Jamieson oh my gosh i suck at puns but find them funny once in awhile if its not someone i hear them from all the time
I'm a little late to the party but:
Shawty growin apples on the trees
Birch with the ferns (with the ferns)
The whole forest lookin at herrr
She tryin'a gro' (tryin'a gro'), next thang you know
Shawty got loam-loam-loam-loam-loam-loam-loam-loam
Them hanging pot plants
And the seedlings wit the sap (wit the sap)
She turned around and gave that big oak tree a smack (AYY!!)
She tryin'a gro' (tryin'a gro'), next thang you know
Shawty got loam-loam-loam-loam-loam-loam-loam-loam
Cmon
I have a newfound respect for Graham's perseverance
Any time I see that full art Damnation I just get mad because I racked up enough reward points that they were supposed to send me one, and they just never did...
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Graham, if you add Abzan for your deck with Doran, you could get more access to defense
Please do more commander, I would watch it every single time you post it on UA-cam!
50:22 "Fucking Cameron! Let me play Magic the Gathering!"
I'm dead
A whole Commander Deck with just commons? Cameron, you are just too cool for this. :D
I love the layout. I hope to catch the live stream next time.
There are only 2 common legendary creatures, Chandler and Jovan, both in mono-red. Cameron's is from Legends which is a set where the symbol did not change based on rarity. It is an Uncommon if I remember correctly.
Online sets count.
Pauper players love online sets shifting rarity down to common even though when only ever physically printed at higher rarities :D
"Fucking Cameron! Can any of us play Magic or spells???!!!" Holy, that made my day though
N Stevens That's basically my Baral deck
I love long ass episodes, no sarcasm. Most youtubers dont do them anymore.
any decklists for these decks I'm particularly intrigued by cam's deck
Cam: “Do you remember the G.I. Joe PSA’s from EbaumsWorld?”
This just made my day!
would genuinely love to play kam's all-common deck
Ha, I love how Kathleen is brutally honest ,"And, smoke week two hours ago."
I thought she said smoke weed lol
I watched this liv e but it's actually better on UA-cam, I really hope you do way more of these!
31:29 "She hit the dirt, but nobody heard" XD
What'cha gonna do with all that junk, all that junk, in her trunk...
Both Ben's and Cam's nails make me incredibly happy!
do u think cam is running storm crow?
really did expect some storm combo there, with the drake and the harpy
Cause common printed storm cards are banned in pauper, but not in EDH-Pauper hybrid
i know right its cam we are talking about cam!!!!!
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Kizer5Red ooooo
This was the first thing ive seen of LRR, insta subbed
"Fucking Cameron; let me play Magic the Gathering!!!"
Probably my favourite moment, especially because Cam gets to be a wise Blue player.
Cam's story about moving to a new town definitely resonated as well :P
The Strange Brew episode/GGR references were great. How long did it take to shoot that scene during pre-release?
This was on my B-Day!
What? WHAT!? There was a commander stream that I missed? Really would love if this were more regular content.
I thought Cam was going to storm off there.
Also that Cheatyface story - he actually legitimately cheated there. You can cheat Cheatyface into play but *only from your hand* - you have to draw it naturally.
what are they referencing around the 56:00 - 58:00 minute mark?
Was Cameron playing searing blaze in his commander deck?!
When Commander 2017 comes out, I'm expecting to see Kathleen pilot the Cat Commander
Where is Kathleen's EDH decklist? I must know!
Is the center of the board, video edited in or did they build/program a contraption to do that "Last card played" overlay? I want to replicate it if possible
why is it cameron can cast a instant 1:50 and dont pay the land?. i payed the land befor his turn but turned the lands again.???
Plz I beg you to tell me how do you build a deck! I have the same commander as Ben...
The fruit Oot - 99 cards, one of each max, only cards that match your commander's colours (artifacts are okay, unless they have effects that use non-commander colours)
2:44:58 - I played a commander game where an opponent played an overloaded cyclonic rift and I countered it with pyroblast. Literally the only time I have had fun with Cyclonic Rift.
Anyone know where to get the sleeves graham is using? So awesome!
Dear God I'm glad the mics don't pick up their table tapping. I was listening with a headset and though there was an super intense racquet ball game going on two rooms down xD
It's really funny, because I know that exact ruling due to the fact that I pilot Omnath and always have to be reminded of that trigger.
Derevi also ignores commander tax cause she has an ability that says pay 1GWU put Derevi onto the battlefield from the command zone so she's potentially an instant speed commander.
Wait.... was Ben naming his Thopters Terry, Bill and Steve a reference to K97s old Morning show!?
i can feel cold sweat running on my back when a blue player says things like "oh interessting". As a white green black player Cam terrifies me
Can we get the deck lists for these decks?
Now I just really want to hear a rendition of "Baby Got Bark"
I feel like Graham misunderstood the term 'fond of', in the same way I'm 'fond of' a nice steak dinner.
is there a reason why he has nail polish or just because he likes it? first time seeing this
Ryan Sultana As Graham said, they had a nail artist in for Tinker Tailor Solder Fry.
When you read a comment exactly as they explain the answer in the video. 1:28:40
On the original dryad arbor is written down you can use it to produce mana but you can attack
About time Wizards tried to make official deck boxes that can hold a sleeved commander deck, WyrmWood Gaming!
If you put the commander in the command zone as a replacement effect, the rest of path to exile will fizzle and you wont get a basic land. Thats kind of why its good in commander...
No you still get to search. Path doesn't care what happens to the creature, as long as it has a legal target when it resolves the whole spell goes off.
Dryad arbor doesn't have sommoning sickness it says it right on the future sight version of the card
The version I just looked up says "Dryad arbor isn't a spell, it's affected by summoning sickness..." so it is summoning sick
Love the AFK stuff guys and gals!
If you watch Cam's face you can see the moment "apple bottom trees" pops into his head.
What is Cam’s decklist?
saw drana and had to watch
Kathleen you make my inner vampire tribal lover happy :)
It would be great if you could have links to decklists in the description.
"I agree with you HarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrderDaddy" - Graham rofl that killed me so nonchalant
Hey guys I just started running my own commander nights and i was wondering, what do you use to scan the cards with the tablet to have them show up on the screen?
When all you hear is "Drana" and you know what's coming next
Is Cameron's list online anywhere? seems really cool
deckbox.org/sets/1736922
Cam Missed a drain trigger when the Unstoppable Ash was killed
Did they ever end up releasing the deck lists? Mostly interested in Camerons.
I love that Ben rocks painted nails, and that's an awesome colour!
Color coordinated sleeves would be *extremely* helpful!
Where do you guys get those slightly bigger blue dice?! I need a dozen of those.
Zedruu of the Trustworthy face or Bird Wizards?
If you reach 7 thrulls, Endrek Sahr dies because the Thrulls rebell on him. Check the Gamepedia article on the Order of the Ebon Hand for more on that.
Decklists would be awesome to have available :D
I actually agree with a taking back all lands being worse for play than Cyclonic Rift.
Cyclonic Rift might (and, well, is) a huge pain, but at least once it's used your opponents have the decency to kill you quickly.
You can re-establish a board state right after an Upheaval, but it's rarely one that allows a fast victory, usually it's more just a reset button, and it's followed by dead turns, and it's just horrible.