Thank god for guntuber channels like this! Straight to the point, no sponsors, humble, and knowledgeable. No annoying 80 minute intro with another 20 minutes of sponsored content and annoying jokes. Thank you C!
Complaining about GarandThumb's style of presentation is like complaing about Top Gear/Grand Tour not having enough technical presentation on cars. Each channel has its style and subjective entertainment value. I greatly appreciate Paul Harrel's work, C_Does, and equally Garand Thumb's and T-Rex's styling. Somewhere in between are channels like Phillip Velayo and American Outlaw. I enjoy them all for what and how they present their information.
@@ZildjianMan30 no one even mentioned those guys and yet you brought them up. They do what they do but there are smaller and better channels out there. Don’t be a follower bro.
I love my Gen II in .300blk. It is a great general purpose rifle. I ended up putting a PA SLx 1-6 7.62x39/.300blk Raptor reticle on it, and have been able to get consistent hits out to 300-400 yards (wind notwithstanding). Something I also really want to touch on, though, is how valuable a "legal" rifle is. I live in Vermont, but my entire family is from the Finger Lakes area of New York. For those times when I go home to hunt, help around house, etc., I'll usually toss this rifle in my truck. It's great having a short, handy, rifle that accepts stanag mags, and won't get me slapped with a felony.
My Gen 1 and similar .22 constantly have the bolts opening in the field and seeding freedom throughout the countryside especially if you carry over the left shoulder--which is an unpleasant surprise when you quickly shoulder to take game. The 3-point safety is a welcome change.
Ruger built this in as a sustainability feature. Those freedom seeds will soon become saplings and ultimately freedom trees from which you can harvest ammo for generations to come. Patience my friend.
You 🫵 gotta watch out with a paddle mag release too. It'll drop a mag while slinged. This isn't a bench queen it's ready for combat especially with a RMR for CQB 😂
I have a Gen 1 Ranch in 7.62x39 with an OPMOD Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6. I don’t think anyone can make a better set up! Palmetto State Armory/AAC is making X39 SST ammo for a fair price. I really want a Gen 2 300BLK. Ruger has always made an exceptional product. My first Ruger at age 9 was the 77 ultralight in 243.
I have a very (very) similar Gen I setup. It rules. I don’t have a farm or a truck but it is totally my farm and truck gun. Got a couple cases of Russian FMJ before things went sideways and it is awesome to have a stash of cheap, accurate practice ammo for the rifle.
@@FMDad-dm5qo Ruger really hit a home run chambering a 7.62x39 bolt gun for suppressor use. Savage should make an Axis in X39. They have a 16.5. Bbl Axis that is tempting And the Ruger Mini 30 mag is perfect. No chance of confusion with AR mags
@@krm944 I was surprised how good a match the Mini 30 mags were for the squat little bolt gun. Also they “rock” in AK style so even on the Gen II I don’t think you’d have the hinky mag release issues touched on here. If anyone’s curious the Ruger 5 rd and 20 rd mags are both the way to go; the factory 10 rds kind of suck for some reason.
🇦🇺😎👍That ADI 69 grn stuff shoots the same as yours out of both of my 223 Howa rifles . One has a varmint barrel and the other has a sporter barrel. Great video
Was stopped dead when you mentioned building up the grip with epoxy. This is a constant issue ive had with tupperware. Is there a method/site you'd recommend I look up, or could you perhaps put out a video doing this? Thanks for all the great content
@@tonytable1537 I will make @ post about my Instagram page, then I'll actually have to update it 🤣 instagram.com/cdoesdiy/profilecard/?igsh=dWxnbWx0bTJuMHM0
Sorry to butt it in, but I done the same thing essentially with the same epoxy cdoes used and some Hockey tape. I sanded to shape perfectly.with some rough sand paper. Worked perfectly but now my ranch is in a mdt/magpul hybrid freak
I bought a tc compass in 2018 when they had the rebate for $170. You can't beat that deal for a cheap bolt action. Wouldn't mind a ruger american ranch in 300blk.
I have a gen 1 in 300blk that I absolutely love. I have mine topped off with a 1-8 trijicon and a DDC enticer Ti-L. The only thing it really needs is a good cheek rest, and one of these days I'll get around to calling ruger and buying one of their gen 2 stocks. Mine REALLY likes 220 makers subs over lil' gun, I'm getting 1/2" groups at 100 yards. I am hoping Ruger will eventually make a 338 ARC ranch rifle, but with a non fluted barrel. I want one to SBR.
Love the review. I grabbed one of these and in the planning stages of tinkering. Do you feel the best optic is an LPVO for the carbine purpose? I’m trying various optics to see how they handle. Considering the Helos 2-12 or any 1-6. I feel size and weight will make a difference on how it feels running the gun.
Looking to get this in .308 for hunting and testing myself with target shooting at longer ranges. Been a long time since I’ve done either with a rifle so any tips are much appreciated!
the gen 2 bolt handle is threaded so you can just swap it out with a larger one no mods required the gen 2 trigger will fit in the gen 1 but is not compatible with the gen 1 bolt because there is a small cut in the back of the bolt where the extra safety moves around it you can see the cut if you look at the black plastic cap on the underside of the bolt
As somebody who has built plenty of genuinely good AR rifles and owns a Ruger Gen II in 5.56, its 100% ahead of my ARs. Obviously the AR is semi-auto but the Ruger is amazingly accurate and well made.
Just found your channel, and glad I did! Could I make a request? Athlon has an AR "Tactical" cantilever scope mount that is "designed and manufactured in the USA". Retails for about $130 for a 34mm 20MOA cant. It looks OK for the price, but it doesn't list what type of aluminum it uses (just "aircraft grade") and I haven't seen any pictures of the locking lugs. Your review would be invaluable to see if it's a viable "cheap" option for something made in the USA.
I have this exact same gun, the only thing i'd say it still sucking is the action, it is not smooth at all and still ways to go until it catches up to the likes of Tikka. But accuracy is good through, get my sub MOA using AAC 75gr OTM, hit a 1 MOA target at 550 yards with wind using 55gr reman ammo. The stock is so much better than Gen 1.
Can you link your Instagram either in the description or your profile? I have a Gen 1 and might be interested in purchasing one of those bolt knobs extenders.
These guns absolutely need the Magpul stock. It's so much better, including the paddle mag release, that yes, it works with AR mags. Ruger needs to offer, at least for the ranch models, Magpul stock options for these rifles.
I’ve got one…it’s accurate. I don’t like the stock. It’s functional but my Gen2 and Gen1 both have the stock nearly touch the barrel on the right side. It’s almost like Ruger has a crap molding process. I’ll probably get a lightweight chassis for them and go with the Sig folding Stock. I’m not a fan of the AR buffer tube and collapsing butt stock (it’s just awkward looking). Not a fan of the AR mag…doesn’t always cycle correctly. Other than those minor issues, I like mine.
I read where there were only 75 Gen II’s made chambered in 300 Blackout. I’m not positive that info I read is 100% accurate but I believe it to be true, No wander they’re damn near impossible to find now! If thats true, Did Ruger grossly underestimate the 300 Blackout market?
Instagram? I, for sure like my 6.5 Grendel gen 1. I bought an MDT LSS-XL gen 2 for it. Up here, I didnt had access to any factory ammo (I should have bought one in 556...). So, I have to reload. Lapua brass, lapua scenar 123gn, IMR4895 and sellier&bellot small primer. This thing print 0.75-0.8 inch groups at 100m ( yeah, I am fluent in both metric and retard unit 😛). But, the bolt have an issue, I can remove it without pressing the release button if I push up and rotate left when the bolt is all the way back... I need to figure this out.
The spiral fluting has no place on a “ranch” rifle imo. To me a ranch rifle is a gun that can live in a quad, in the back of a pickup, or even in a wheelbarrow on a farm. The fluting is an extra place for dust, dirt and mud to get in. Now you have to get in every groove individually.
Wow. This was an absurd post. You do know the barrel is finished in Cerakote? Do you know what Cerakote does? Fluting can be put on any length barrel. Fluting increases the surface area of the barrel so that more heat dissipates at a more rapid rate. Spiral Fluting further increases this benefit due to the fact that the shortest distance between two points is not a spiral. Spiral fluting creates more surface area compared to straight line fluting. Thus, spiral fluting maximizes barrel cooling. I rest my case.
Your case sucks and does not address the point. As a person who spends a lot of time around the corrals, he's exactly correct. I blow my Mini 14 off with compressed air every morning, clean it once a month or so. It cycles all the cheap Russian ammo you want. The AR platform sucks in my World, too.
Gen One was a joke…The bolt was so poorly/roughly machined it made noise when getting slid into battery. The stock reveled the cardboard paper towel center. Some people are interested in polishing a turd. Ammo is to expensive and life is to short waste them both.
Just a thought in my head, but I would love to see the interaction if you were to go to a Cabela's and the guy behind the gun counter is like some 20-year-old fresh out of high school and he's seen a gun once at his pappy's above the fireplace mantel. And he's there to tell you all about how to shoot and how great this rifle is or this rifle isn't. You know all the good information that you should know because obviously he's the salesman. Just thinking that would be a funny interaction to witness.
If they could just un-flute the barrel and un-splatter the stock I would love this so much.
You are just wayyyyyy to picky. A gen I sounds like the perfect rifle for you then 😝
Un flute da barrel pleaseeeee
I love the fluted bbl and splatter!!!
Krylon the bi**h and Fluted Barrels will lighten up a heavier Barrel.
Even the splatter is tolerable. The fluting is what is holding me back.
Thank god for guntuber channels like this! Straight to the point, no sponsors, humble, and knowledgeable. No annoying 80 minute intro with another 20 minutes of sponsored content and annoying jokes. Thank you C!
Some sponsorships do add value to a channel. However, if they're not industrially parallel, it's just annoying.
I aim to please, my friend!
Complaining about GarandThumb's style of presentation is like complaing about Top Gear/Grand Tour not having enough technical presentation on cars.
Each channel has its style and subjective entertainment value. I greatly appreciate Paul Harrel's work, C_Does, and equally Garand Thumb's and T-Rex's styling. Somewhere in between are channels like Phillip Velayo and American Outlaw. I enjoy them all for what and how they present their information.
@@ZildjianMan30 no one even mentioned those guys and yet you brought them up. They do what they do but there are smaller and better channels out there. Don’t be a follower bro.
Thats what i love about this !
I love my Gen II in .300blk. It is a great general purpose rifle. I ended up putting a PA SLx 1-6 7.62x39/.300blk Raptor reticle on it, and have been able to get consistent hits out to 300-400 yards (wind notwithstanding).
Something I also really want to touch on, though, is how valuable a "legal" rifle is. I live in Vermont, but my entire family is from the Finger Lakes area of New York. For those times when I go home to hunt, help around house, etc., I'll usually toss this rifle in my truck. It's great having a short, handy, rifle that accepts stanag mags, and won't get me slapped with a felony.
literally the best reviews in the industrie even without cOmBaT eXpErIeNcE
If i want a review on a rifle or optics this guy is the only channel that does it in a correct fashion.
My Gen 1 and similar .22 constantly have the bolts opening in the field and seeding freedom throughout the countryside especially if you carry over the left shoulder--which is an unpleasant surprise when you quickly shoulder to take game. The 3-point safety is a welcome change.
@@TexProfVH it makes a big difference.
Ruger built this in as a sustainability feature. Those freedom seeds will soon become saplings and ultimately freedom trees from which you can harvest ammo for generations to come. Patience my friend.
You 🫵 gotta watch out with a paddle mag release too. It'll drop a mag while slinged. This isn't a bench queen it's ready for combat especially with a RMR for CQB 😂
I already had my eye on the gen 2. This video just sold it to me!! Best review of this rifle in YT. Great videos!!
Appreciate your long form informational review! This is the first time i've watched your videos looking forward to more!
Thanks for all the detail, great vid as usual!
Great video as always. Good to see you doing gun reviews.
Awesome video, good to see the differences right next to each other.
I have a Gen 1 Ranch in 7.62x39 with an OPMOD Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6. I don’t think anyone can make a better set up! Palmetto State Armory/AAC is making X39 SST ammo for a fair price.
I really want a Gen 2 300BLK.
Ruger has always made an exceptional product. My first Ruger at age 9 was the 77 ultralight in 243.
@@krm944 that is a Perfect budget setup.
I have a very (very) similar Gen I setup. It rules. I don’t have a farm or a truck but it is totally my farm and truck gun.
Got a couple cases of Russian FMJ before things went sideways and it is awesome to have a stash of cheap, accurate practice ammo for the rifle.
@FMDad-dm5qo lmfao!
@@FMDad-dm5qo Ruger really hit a home run chambering a 7.62x39 bolt gun for suppressor use.
Savage should make an Axis in X39. They have a 16.5. Bbl Axis that is tempting
And the Ruger Mini 30 mag is perfect. No chance of confusion with AR mags
@@krm944 I was surprised how good a match the Mini 30 mags were for the squat little bolt gun. Also they “rock” in AK style so even on the Gen II I don’t think you’d have the hinky mag release issues touched on here. If anyone’s curious the Ruger 5 rd and 20 rd mags are both the way to go; the factory 10 rds kind of suck for some reason.
Thank you C.
@@kellym3531 your welcome
I have the gen 2 in 308. Great rifle. Slap you a hudu muzzle break on that thing and you’ll almost have zero recoil.
@@SCNative_76 it's a sweet setup
In looking to get one in .308 as well. You have the ranch rifle with the 16.10 barrel correct?
I had no idea there was a 600yd range that close. Thanks for that!
Nice review, table-top, ranging and during West Point 2-gun match! Kudos to your friend to loaning you his Gen2 for the review.
I was waiting for BF to grab a swfa 10x, and they just sold out. Glad to hear the gen 2 are finally here. Cant wait to see the review.
@@johns14m they asked me to hold off until after BF. 8 want to release it Noooowwwwwwwwww
@CDOES heck
🇦🇺😎👍That ADI 69 grn stuff shoots the same as yours out of both of my 223 Howa rifles . One has a varmint barrel and the other has a sporter barrel. Great video
At 4000 rounds, show us a short video with a bore scope.
Well well well! I am looking at getting a gen 2 ranch in .223 and look at whose video I found to convince me! How ya doin buddy been a long time
Gen II in 6mm ARC for the win !
Was stopped dead when you mentioned building up the grip with epoxy. This is a constant issue ive had with tupperware. Is there a method/site you'd recommend I look up, or could you perhaps put out a video doing this?
Thanks for all the great content
@@tonytable1537 I will make @ post about my Instagram page, then I'll actually have to update it 🤣 instagram.com/cdoesdiy/profilecard/?igsh=dWxnbWx0bTJuMHM0
Yes olesse
@@CDOES I second this. Another creator mentioned doing this -
Especially with the Savage Axis.
Sorry to butt it in, but I done the same thing essentially with the same epoxy cdoes used and some Hockey tape. I sanded to shape perfectly.with some rough sand paper. Worked perfectly but now my ranch is in a mdt/magpul hybrid freak
Hell yea! C_Does long range!
Some of the fastest tiny groups ive ever seen ! Hahaha
@@360Swurve super fast!
I bought a tc compass in 2018 when they had the rebate for $170. You can't beat that deal for a cheap bolt action. Wouldn't mind a ruger american ranch in 300blk.
i absolutely love mine in 204. would like a steeper grip though. I did put a timney trigger on mine and its incredible
Great video. Let us know where you post the extended mag release install pics.
Well done on the review. Looking into a Ruger American for my deer rifle it seems great for it.
I have a gen 1 in 300blk that I absolutely love. I have mine topped off with a 1-8 trijicon and a DDC enticer Ti-L. The only thing it really needs is a good cheek rest, and one of these days I'll get around to calling ruger and buying one of their gen 2 stocks. Mine REALLY likes 220 makers subs over lil' gun, I'm getting 1/2" groups at 100 yards.
I am hoping Ruger will eventually make a 338 ARC ranch rifle, but with a non fluted barrel. I want one to SBR.
Have you tried this in the Magpul STANAG stock yet?
Good luck with bolt development and sales!
Fantastic content 👌 👏 👍
"Decades of Bowling at it's finest" HAHAHA! Great review and video as usual, thank you!
Could you perhaps do a video showing how you installed the extended magazine release? I just got one of these and Id like to do it to mine as well.
Are those bolt knobs available by any chance yet? Just ordered a Gen 1 and I’d like to buy one if available
I can’t find you on IG
Love the review. I grabbed one of these and in the planning stages of tinkering. Do you feel the best optic is an LPVO for the carbine purpose? I’m trying various optics to see how they handle. Considering the Helos 2-12 or any 1-6. I feel size and weight will make a difference on how it feels running the gun.
i am looking for a bolt 556, but i want one with at least 20" barrel. choices are slim.
@@brian770 this in the predator model is calling your name
Looking to get this in .308 for hunting and testing myself with target shooting at longer ranges. Been a long time since I’ve done either with a rifle so any tips are much appreciated!
Very interested in the new SWFA
@@ronenton4037 black Friday my friend
the gen 2 bolt handle is threaded so you can just swap it out with a larger one no mods required
the gen 2 trigger will fit in the gen 1 but is not compatible with the gen 1 bolt because there is a small cut in the back of the bolt where the extra safety moves around it you can see the cut if you look at the black plastic cap on the underside of the bolt
@CDoes : My grandfather, an immigrant from Italy, was a machinist.
Is it "better" than a quality AR15? Something like a Stag Arms rifle, for example?
As somebody who has built plenty of genuinely good AR rifles and owns a Ruger Gen II in 5.56, its 100% ahead of my ARs. Obviously the AR is semi-auto but the Ruger is amazingly accurate and well made.
Just found your channel, and glad I did! Could I make a request? Athlon has an AR "Tactical" cantilever scope mount that is "designed and manufactured in the USA". Retails for about $130 for a 34mm 20MOA cant. It looks OK for the price, but it doesn't list what type of aluminum it uses (just "aircraft grade") and I haven't seen any pictures of the locking lugs. Your review would be invaluable to see if it's a viable "cheap" option for something made in the USA.
Hold up. SWFA released a gen2 10x? 😮
@@CntBckt keep an eye out for black Friday 😏
@CDOES I don't see them on the website, except in the discontinued section. D:
If this is true I’m buying one the second they drop
@nyrangeguy3194 right? I honestly want them to make one with shorter turrets like the ones on their variable zoom models.
What mags are you using?
I went with the Mossberg MVP in 308 for the Magpul mag compatibility but RARG2 was on the short list.
What brand was the second optic used? The 1-6?
I have this exact same gun, the only thing i'd say it still sucking is the action, it is not smooth at all and still ways to go until it catches up to the likes of Tikka. But accuracy is good through, get my sub MOA using AAC 75gr OTM, hit a 1 MOA target at 550 yards with wind using 55gr reman ammo. The stock is so much better than Gen 1.
Polish the bolt, it helps a ton. Speeds up the break-in to smooth it out. I polish mine with Flitz, non grit versions.
Is that trigger guard plastic or metal? I’ve asked on every review and no one can answer it
Not to be rude, but why does it matter?
Athlon 4x20 too much for this? I like your review of that scope and this gun. Thanks
What caliber?
Gen 2 over Gen 1 is a no brainer, if only for the safety.
Love my gen 2 predator in 6.5 cm. Easily groups sub inch groups all day long
Can you link your Instagram either in the description or your profile? I have a Gen 1 and might be interested in purchasing one of those bolt knobs extenders.
@@Ascendant7Justice no problem I'll be working on getting them out before Christmas instagram.com/cdoesdiy/profilecard/?igsh=dWxnbWx0bTJuMHM0
Inflation has changed a little bit......
Understatement of the century
@@randyhavard6084 🤣
i wish there were a version with iron sights
I was thinking the 7.62x39 model is a better all around rifle until I heard him firing out to 600 yards.
Do a video on a mini 30 and socom 16in 308
My gun shop sells the gen 1 for 550 and the gen 2 for 555 so ima go with the gen 2
Boyds Agility stock for one of your Gen I's, please and thank you.
With the cheek riser add.
These guns absolutely need the Magpul stock. It's so much better, including the paddle mag release, that yes, it works with AR mags. Ruger needs to offer, at least for the ranch models, Magpul stock options for these rifles.
Magpul stock adds alot of weight
I’ve got one…it’s accurate. I don’t like the stock. It’s functional but my Gen2 and Gen1 both have the stock nearly touch the barrel on the right side. It’s almost like Ruger has a crap molding process. I’ll probably get a lightweight chassis for them and go with the Sig folding Stock. I’m not a fan of the AR buffer tube and collapsing butt stock (it’s just awkward looking). Not a fan of the AR mag…doesn’t always cycle correctly. Other than those minor issues, I like mine.
I read where there were only 75 Gen II’s made chambered in 300 Blackout. I’m not positive that info I read is 100% accurate but I believe it to be true, No wander they’re damn near impossible to find now! If thats true, Did Ruger grossly underestimate the 300 Blackout market?
My Gen 1 shoots 68 sierra 1/2 MOA….
Great rifles…
.., in 7-08 I’d buy my whole family one right now
Instagram? I, for sure like my 6.5 Grendel gen 1. I bought an MDT LSS-XL gen 2 for it. Up here, I didnt had access to any factory ammo (I should have bought one in 556...). So, I have to reload. Lapua brass, lapua scenar 123gn, IMR4895 and sellier&bellot small primer. This thing print 0.75-0.8 inch groups at 100m ( yeah, I am fluent in both metric and retard unit 😛). But, the bolt have an issue, I can remove it without pressing the release button if I push up and rotate left when the bolt is all the way back... I need to figure this out.
C, move to a free state and get in this NFA game. A bolt gun NEEDS a can! 👊🏼
The spiral fluting has no place on a “ranch” rifle imo. To me a ranch rifle is a gun that can live in a quad, in the back of a pickup, or even in a wheelbarrow on a farm. The fluting is an extra place for dust, dirt and mud to get in. Now you have to get in every groove individually.
not hard to brush it off
Wow. This was an absurd post. You do know the barrel is finished in Cerakote? Do you know what Cerakote does?
Fluting can be put on any length barrel. Fluting increases the surface area of the barrel so that more heat dissipates at a more rapid rate. Spiral Fluting further increases this benefit due to the fact that the shortest distance between two points is not a spiral. Spiral fluting creates more surface area compared to straight line fluting. Thus, spiral fluting maximizes barrel cooling.
I rest my case.
Wow you told me. 🥱
Your case sucks and does not address the point. As a person who spends a lot of time around the corrals, he's exactly correct. I blow my Mini 14 off with compressed air every morning, clean it once a month or so. It cycles all the cheap Russian ammo you want. The AR platform sucks in my World, too.
"Purchase"? Just call it a damn grip!
M77 Hawkeye > American
Gen One was a joke…The bolt was so poorly/roughly machined it made noise when getting slid into battery. The stock reveled the cardboard paper towel center. Some people are interested in polishing a turd. Ammo is to expensive and life is to short waste them both.
Mine didn't make that noise. Sucks to be you, nerd.
Good for you……
@@chadgronsten9023 Thank you!
Tough to look at everyday.
Just a thought in my head, but I would love to see the interaction if you were to go to a Cabela's and the guy behind the gun counter is like some 20-year-old fresh out of high school and he's seen a gun once at his pappy's above the fireplace mantel.
And he's there to tell you all about how to shoot and how great this rifle is or this rifle isn't. You know all the good information that you should know because obviously he's the salesman.
Just thinking that would be a funny interaction to witness.
Get an outlier barrel!
Ew is that papyrus font?
What’s your instagram? Couldn’t find the link anywhere
Australian Defence industries make great ammo. As an Australian I am paid to say it😅