**THE BEST ARCHERY TARGET ON THE MARKET TODAY**
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Review of the Matrix M2 Archery target
** I talked to the Matrix folks about the field tips they recommend. They're asking people to use the blunt tips, not the bulbous ones. I'd edit the video, but i don't know how once it's published!**
Dude.. not just because your a TN boy too , but your content is awesome.... Plus a little upscale and they way your delivery is.... It's authentic. Keep it up... Love watching man!
Hey, just a thought to help when you flip the cells, use spray foam insulation to fill in the back of the cavity to help the second side last longer.
In the 90s when I was a kid, our first deer target was made by my dad, digging out the shape in our sandbox, a few cans of spray foam insulation, a core of a few sheets of 1" foam board,. 1x1 boards in the legs. Then all wrapped with brown burlap. Thing lasted for years, and could be patched up anytime it was getting shot out with a few $ can of spray foam.
It’s been a while but for field tips, the Bulldog bag targets are the easiest to pull arrows out of (I pulled 6 or 7 out all at once while filming with the other hand), and they have a lifetime replacement warranty on the faces when they get shot up. They have a bunch of different sizes and they free stand just fine.
Great video. I'm a recurve shooter so I know that makes a difference. I also see that someone else has recomended a Big Boy Target. I've been shooting one of theirs for about a year and it holds up great. They do make one that will hold up to broadheads, just not mine. Anyway. Check out the Big Boy, you might like it also.
Iron will makes some amazing bubble field points. Machined very accurately and all within .5 grains.
Great review about the only thing you missed was when talking about the price vs a lot cheaper block is that once you shoot the block out it's done you have to buy whole new block or whole new Reinhardt so you have to spend another 100 to 150. With matrix especially if your a good aim and majority of your shots hit just one module. All you have to do is buy one module which is 40 bucks so in the long run you do save money going with a the matrix over other brands.
I'm getting ready to do a follow up video about the Matrix. I'll make sure I'm really clear about it.
Hey Brandon, I ordered 2 of the new SEVR 21" target that came out in January. I like a few features that they instilled into it that the Matrix & Rhinehart missed. I will keep u updated this spring once the weather warms up here in MN.
Yeah, let me know for sure.
First time here loved your content subbed
Target Manufacturers are never gonna make a truly indestructible target. There's a pretty strong correlation between price and durability, the longer a target lasts the more expensive it is. They could probably make a target that would last forever now, but they would put themselves out of business. That's just how it is. Good video btw
Hey man! I work at a shop in Arkansas and we’ve had great success out of the Morrell High Rollers! They self heal like you’re wanting
People seem to like those. I'm sure I'll give one a try at some point.
The BIG High Roller is the best target I’ve ever shot! Definitely worth a try.
I like my Rinehart 18-1 for it's smaller size/portability. This looks like a good option as well.
Ive got 4 different rineharts and I like them as well.
They are the best made . Period ! Mine has been in my yard in the sun for 7 years. It’s been shot 1000s of times . They don’t make em any better. I have the xl. I also have a block that I throw in my truck and carry hunting with me in case I need to shoot where I park before or after hunting . It’s only been shot maybe a couple hundred times and it’s honestly in bad shape for as little as it’s been shot. The holes don’t heal, one you shout a spot is ruint forever .
Cool target stand.
See although short this is where you shine. I had some major issues with your 5 bow 2 party shoot out and can’t see the demise if sight tapes, I want this target[shit I shit a bbq 2 times and my shed 3 times tuning a new bow, so metal buckles I can cope with as the vaps were unscathed ...however sending a container of foam to Australia tends to restrict what we get[or jack up the price in a major way]
Regards mark
Still, when I view your videos on an iPhone, if I rotate left for full screen I get a muddled, mono audio. Thanks for the review.;)
Nice shooting brotha 😎👍
Look into a “Blob” target. These are by far the toughest and longest lasting targets that I have ever owned. They are expensive but not $245. The only down side to them is they will sand the tips of your arrow down. I do not shoot my 3-d arrows into them! I have had one for over 4 years and still use what’s left of it to broad head tune my bows.
What are the blob targets made of?
Thank you.
Brandon, you need to take a look at the Blob Target. The target cost less and you can shoot field tips and broadheads. The only down side that i have found is that it's heavy and a little hard to pull arrows.
Ive had a couple of people mention them to me. Ill add them to the list! Thanks for the info.
I tried to show a friend how a bag target worked by shooting a field point and a broadhead. We finally found the broadhead arrow
I did a review of bag targets.... It didn't go well!
Ironman targets are really nice. Easy arrow removal, kinda pricey
I find waxing the arrow shafts makes them much easier to pull out.
Maybe instead of making the target material different... They could make a repair system to inject fresh foam into the blown out cavities. Like a long syringe of sorts .. just inject, allow to cure and shoot
Dude... You should do that. You should be that guy. It would probably work for all the foam style targets.
Maybe there are some diff kinds of injection foam, but some videos I saw on using it for targets, it doesn't seem to stop arrows that well... I could be wrong.
They don’t make money by making things fixable
@@Wspatch1987 good thing I don't work for them
A couple months ago I would've argued for the Morrell High Roller. They changed the formula I believe, as my year old one is in better shape than the 2 month old one.
Go for the big high roller. Nice target. But this does look like a good target also.
I'll stick with my Bulldog plus with lifetime warranty. 🏹🤠👍
I saw in a comment you mentioned wearing out a block target every year .... have you ever shot a rineheart ? There is no comparison . None . Blocks are crap , every shot leaves a permanent hole. Rinehearts heal up. You have to shoot the same spots over and over to wear it out. I’ve had the same one in my yard in the sun for 7 years . The core is wore out , but for the most part it’s in good shape .
I've got a couple of their deer targets and they've held up well so far. It took about a year to get to where I could pull the arrows without tearing my hands up. That's my only complaint with Rinehart. There's a great video of Josh bowmar going to their factory and doing a tour. Really cool to see how much goes into it.
@brandonmcdonald what aluminium arrows are you using? Are they like the old XX75 Easton's or something? Is this out of your VXR too? Also... Plenty of questions today... What poundage are you shooting? Another great vid too 👏
Not using aluminum arrows for a couple of years now. Was using the easton fmj but I don't like them as daily drivers. They bend... 30" draw 75lbs
@@brandonmcdonald6121 you've probably said it before (and I've forgotten) but what are your daily drivers now? I'm a short ass pulling 70 with a 27.5 draw. We're still in lockdown here in Melbourne so I can't get out to try some new bows and a set up. Hopefully soon.
Thank you for the review..
I have been trying the Bulldog targets and I also have a Big Boy target..
Both have proven to be great targets..
I would love to know what you think
I've never shot at either but heard good things about both. I think this summer I'll be in the market for a larger target so ill check those out.
Great informative Video, have you tried the DynaFoam Range Beast?
I loved the Matrix target idea but my complaint with the first one was that it was cheaper to just buy a new target than if you were to wait and replace all the cells when you get down to the last one. I mean I could literally blow out one cell front and back in less than a week so replacing one at a time every week would get insane expensive.
Preying Mathis 100% bullshit lmao. You cannot shoot through a cell in a week!
Have you tried the Iron Will bulbous tips. I got a set, and they are pristine.
There is such a thing as healing rubber/ plastic, the only issue with that material is that it's super expensive and the other issue is thst it has to be maintained in perfect conditions, such as being kept indoors. I've had (still have) many ideas for the archery industry, such as a self healing target, but to make any idea a reality is about five thousand dollar minimum for the cost of a patent lawyer and that doesn't even guarantee your newly discovered idea from already being in the hands and shelved by big corporations like Hoyt. I unfortunately had to find all this out the hard way and after paying up front and yes there are loopholes but it's a two year long process and being a father to eight children, I dont exactly have five to seven thousand dollars laying around.
if you came up with a Target that is as awesome as it sounds like it could be I guarantee you could get a partner involved that could handle the business side of everything including the finances. The hardest part is coming up with the target that's better than the Matrix
The traditional hunting industry is extremely competitive and it would be an amazing challenge to get an opportunity to compete with great design ideas such as the matrix target, but in the same token it's not such a bad idea to improve and innovate something new especially having great motivation for something I'm greatly passionate for. If I had investor's for every prototype and or idea of mine, it would definitely help bring this industry closer into a new era, I dont mean to brag, or sound arrogant it's just something inside that tells me that this is going to be a game changer. I honestly wish that my ideas were patented alredy so I could actually make sense of what the hell I'm saying, rather than just seeming like I'm blowing smoke to anyone who reads this. I'm one of those crazy people who wakes up in the middle of the night with an idea and has a note pad under my pillow to right it down and then try to make it with what little technology I have on hand. This is why I like your videos so much, it inspires me to improve my ideas based on your honest opinions of what you would like to be improved. Great work, you deserve that high paying UA-cam income.
www.seas.harvard.edu/news/2017/08/harvard-researchers-develop-tough-self-healing-rubber
To the dumbass who just soiled my greatest achievement on this planet with such ignorant moccary: Its funny that you mentioned investment because everything we invest our hard earned money in is not for stuff, its to leave a legacy of all the things we've learned and to keep it alive by procreation raising children, and making sure that we keep our everlasting life through them and their future. The Bible in fact talks about being fruitful and from where I stand your wasting your money by not simply pulling out or being faithful to one person that has you paranoid of catching an STD. And sure you can always get condoms for free, but obviously you're not that kind of guy are you... In fact, I'm willing to bet that with such a snarkey, unevolved comment like that, that you're an egocentric dickhead that buys the top shelf Trojan magnums, flavored like little Wayne's lolly pop, ribbed and textured so that way to make your girlfriend feel more reassured that you even have penis that she can feel, and if that wasn't enough im sure they vibrate too for redundancy. The only "investment" you are tuely making is a false sense of security by looking BADASS in front of your guy friends (because we all know that your not fooling the girls you piddle around with so of course its true that you buy condoms for guys, sad) and showing that you have the attention span of chimp and you nevertheless really considered to think about the words that came from your hereditary pre-ejackutated tendencies that triggered a habitual reaction into your neurological functions between your frontal and temporal lobes. You should have listened to mother, or just simply watched the Disney movie Bambi, just like the other kids and if you actually had paid attention you would know that they explain if you don't have anything nice to say, than shut the fuck up. Now that I am thinking about why your such an ass I now feel a little bit sorry for saying anything myself, nah not really, its really more like petty for the well-being of your overall mental health, I am curious however because it could be an early warning sign of a tumor near your hypothalamus. Question; do you experience the smell of rotting eggs at random moments followed by an unexplainable reason why you like that smell? You should seriously consider redirecting your priorities and "invest" in getting that checked. Thank you for your extremely late, stupidly disruptive and very millennial comment. Thanks for taking the time in reading this far, you may now stop here and go about your day.
To Brandon McDonald, I am sorry for any excitement that this may stir up, keep up the great work, your latest video was fantastic and well worth the wait. Thanks for all that you do.
And what about with heavy 9mm arrows?
I have the original Matrix...these things are awesome! Where did you get those bulbous field tips and what are they called? I definitely need to get some.
K A I ordered them from Lancaster. Didn’t take too long looking around for them. I’m sure amazon has them as well. They do make pulling a lot easier.
the m2 is too small. so is the m1 but the m1 is kinda close to a good size. great video bro
except it is cheaper in the long run to buy a full target instead of replacing the blocks. 1 Target is $250, to replace all 9 cells is $360. So not really cost effective to keep replacing cells. Cool design though I never heard of them before.
Just did an update video from this one if you want to see how they're holding up.
Have you tried the Sevr target. I’ve got one and it works pretty well. It’s holes seem to close up well once you’ve pulled the arrow and it’s dense enough to stop arrows that I shoot in my garage at 5 yds.
I haven't but I've heard good things too. I'm still shooting the matrix and I like the system. I'll probably do a follow-up review at some point this year
Brandon Mcdonald awesome. Great to hear. I really enjoy your videos and reviews. Your video about how much difference the weight of you arrow affects your shots was eye opening bc I never thought about it like that. Had to go back and redo some arrow builds.
$245 is way to much for something you are purposely trying to destroy.
DIY target:Cardboard box from Staples...foam insulation from Homedepot...newspaper or bubble rap...and duct tape.
Did you try any “penetration oil” (arrow lube) and do a pull test with “regular” field tips on a fresh cell? That might a work around until it’s shot up a bit.
Im going to order a new one soon for another location. Good recommendation.
Lol, this was an awesome video.
Thank for watching. I still really like this target. Bought the M1 a few months ago.
Could you do a video on the stand you have for the target?
Yeah, I've got it on the list!
I know why you say this about curing the arrow hole, but they want to sell more than one target stopper to you. If they would do what you ask, you will only buy one in your lifetime.
Were you using arrow lube?
I wouldn't say it's the best. It is cool being able to change the cells, but look at a BLOB. You will NOT blow through a blob anytime soon. I'm on year 5 on mine, with broadheads! Also, they are half the cost of a matrix!!
Rinehart rhinoblock is the way to go.
Ive got more Rineharts than matrix targets and they're great, but the matrix is better. Getting to rotate the modules is a huge deal. Always shooting at the middle but not creating a hollow spot is awesome
After a year, was it worth the price? Do you think you should've gone with the M1 instead of the M2? On the verge of shelling out the $300 for the M2 but just wanted to know your thoughts after having it for a year?
I actually bought an M1 as well for a different spot. I think it's worth it. With the more bulbous tips they stop great, reasonable pull and then the ability to always shoot the middle is awesome. I hate wallowing out the middle of a target and being forced to shoot corners. I like to back up and shoot from 60+ and shooting at the corners just sucks...
Brandon Mcdonald I appreciate the info. I think you’re reviews aren’t great and helpful. A lot of good info. I probably order an M2 soon before they get backed up with orders after TAC. I enjoyed your sight reviews, but if you get a chance, can you take a look at the CBE Engage Hybrid? I bought one as a back up to my Garmin Xero for states I can’t use that in.
Getting right on the self healing oozer
Please do and freakin let me know about it. You’ll be a millionaire in a month!
The replacement blocks are too expensive. If the targets were $200 and $25 for the replacement blocks that would make more sense. Or just but 4 block targets and ratchet strap them together. Just bought 3 on clearance from Walmart for $3.70 each, right place at the right time...
What happens if your arrow goes in the seam between two of those pods?
Does it go all the way through?
The cells interlock so it doesn't go a the way through. It doesn't stop as well but it's fine. If you don't have the target tight together with the straps though, there can be issues.
need special field tips, difficult to swap blocks, passss
Nah. That one had an issue with the swap. They actually reached out to me about it. Shouldn’t be using super sharp points for targets anyhow. Don’t need them.
Try our Reinhart 18 in ones or go to the site and check out all our stuff man I work there, we do R100
I want to shoot one of the R100s. I just need to schedule it. I've got a bunch of your targets. Y'all make great stuff too. Keep it up!
What do you think of the bulldog lifetime target?
Haven’t shot one but I like foam more in general.
@@brandonmcdonald6121 Thanks!
There's just no one else like Brandon McDonald. All your videos just ○ROCK○
i was feeling this target even at the outrages price point. Until............. I noticed it was being held together by a strap. Seems like they almost got it, but not quite.
What's your issue with the straps? The blocks lock together and the straps just keep them tight.
K A does a Rubik’s cube need straps to hold together.
@@smthcrmnal26 you're not shooting a rubik's cube tho.
For that cost I don't want to shoot it, or buy it...
Will it stop crossbow arrows at 470fps
The new M1 is getting 50% penetration at 305 fps out of my compounds. Ive not tried anything faster.
Nothing beats a good bale of straw !! The baler compresses the hay or straw so nothing goes through and you can let them outside for months with any degradation. When it's time to get a new one or two you spread the old one on the lawn or garden!! Why would anyone spend 250.00 for a target ????
You must have better straw than I can get! Ive tried in the past and I just get pass throughs. Whats your bow setup like?
@@brandonmcdonald6121 I shoot Horn Bows, east Asian archery.
At 70lbs 30inch draw I go through bales.
Not a chance. I’ve tried bales and punch clean through them. The cost of arrows will far exceed the cost of the M2 or even the M1 in no time. I’ll stick to the Matrix
Bales are worth there weight in gold for 20 to 50 pound bows unfortunately for stronger bows you need a matrix style , and I do love that you can change them that is great idea
How many arrows can you shoot per cell before replacing them?
Not sure but it's a whole bunch. This video is older and I'm still shooting both the m1 and m2 with the same cells. I've flipped them over and am getting close to needing to swap a couple. I shoot a bunch. Probably 50-100 arrows 5 days a week.
Maybe Mike Lindell can help with creating a better target? Give him a call. I'm not joking.
Oh, that's an interesting idea. I'm sure he's got someone on the team that deals with foams etc. Is he an archer?
@@brandonmcdonald6121 No idea, just think of his commercial, experimenting with various stuffing types.
Was just looking at their website to see if they have changed their prices on the replacement cores lol nope. $39.95 to replace one for the M2 and $59.95 to replace one on the original target. Absolutely ridiculous. $39.95X9 is $359.95 😂🤣😂🤣 the whole target is $250....... Not worth the money.
I wont be buying the replacements either but based on the amount of my shooting and the wear of the target it should last 3 years if it stays consistent with my use so far. I was wearing out a Block target every single summer. So cost wise it makes more sense for me to replace the entire target every few years. This is the biggest benefit, after I blow through the center of a block target, Im shooting at 70 yards at the corners of the target, which inevitably ends up with more full target misses. The rotation is a big deal. Some of my reviews Ive changed my mind on, but not this one. Im ordering an M1 at some point and paying full price.
@@brandonmcdonald6121 Agreed, the ability to rotate to the center is a big deal.
Liquid mercury filled targets. That should be liquidee and mushee.
And not cancery at all! That would be cool to shoot into though
Arrow lube is your friend! Lol
Haha, I hate it!! Actually just got the M1 and it pulls way easier right off the bat with the right target tips!
@@brandonmcdonald6121 that's cool. I won't shoot 3d archery without using arrow lube anymore though, makes life so much easier haha.
Why would you do all that when you can just pull the rage right out of the bag target. Smh
Try waxing your arrows first.
Anyone for a drinking game for the word "penetrate"?
I put it in there as many times as I could. See what I did there... 🤓
All the best targets are ridiculously over priced.
They are big $$
He wants a target that lasts but hasn't bought a blob target? I guess he enjoys wasting money on new cells. Yeah why buy a target that lasts years when you can just continue to replace pieces of a target lol.
I've shot the blob once at a friend's. Need to shoot one again.