@@markfergerson2145 i'd assume so, yeah. in that case, though, i'd imagine it'd still be more fees flying under Mars than a place like Panama or Liberia. Or if there'd be an equivalent to less scrupulous governments to fly the flag of like that- I.E., Space Panama... or Mars after the events of the Red Faction games.
@@markfergerson2145 I think the alien universe kind of operates on earth nations "controlling" colonies and everything off earth, or at least having like jurisdiction in separate locations since you got the United States Colonial Marines, while in reality Weyland Yutani or it's competitors like Seigson actually control p much everything outside of Earth
1 survivor? _1½ survivors...._ you're forgetting Jonesy, who should be considered an inspiration to cat owners everywhere. In the emergency, he allowed himself to be put in the cat cage and was thus saved. Many a furball would still have been struggling to avoid being put in by the time the ship self destructed...
@@Tony1975uk "You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? Perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility." Someone talking about a cranky cat.
I always wondered how the Company knew about the Alien nest and why the whole thing was treated blase'. The world presented in Alien is a lot more mysterious than the sequels ended up recontextualizing it as.
probably some WY ship/probe managed to catch the radio signal sent from the alien shipwreck, and someone in WY managed to exert enough influence to divert Nostromo there to investigate... and whoever it was was probably grreedy enough to overlook all the risks involved. Think Carter Burke in Aliens, just 50 years earlier. Since the Nostromo went missing, we presume whoever it was, got either fired or had not enough influence to send another expedition.
EXACTLY !! AND THE CORPORATIONS MUCH MORE SINISTER AND DARK AND REEALLY UP TO NO GOOD WITH THEIR IMMENSE POWER , THAN THE REST OF THE MOVIES COULD ACTUALLY EVEN COME CLOSE TO SHOWCASE !☝
Well we know they knew of Xenomorphs (thanks to movies like AvP which happen earlier in the timeline) but they hadn't gotten their hands on one, nor did they know where to find one. But they DID program into their ships a command to wake the crew if they encountered an alien signal, and that they were required - by the company - to investigate and take samples. In terms of mundane aliens it might have just led to more colonization and/ or ET contacts. But the Nostromo hit on the thing Weylan-Yutani had been hoping for. An actual alien starship, and best of all... those eggs. I'm also thinking that when the android doctor was added to the roster was because there was supposed to be a hidden android on EVERY ship, but for whatever reason, when the Nostromo left Earth, they hadn't had one ready yet. Like it was a new fleet-wide requirement they'd accidentally skipped. So at Thetis one was assigned to them. And the rest writes itself.
@@Kalebfenoir just saw the movie somewhat recently, IIRC the android doctor was added to the crew knowing full well they were going to pass by the signal, and MU/TH/UR had explicit instructions from corporate to sacrifice the crew to complete the mission. think it was mentioned that another had picked up the signal but couldnt investigate, and so the Nostromo was re-routed to pass by the planet. however this could just be more of the sinister corpo shii, and for all we know there was already a failed attempt to retrieve a specimen and the nostromo was just the first one to have a survivor.
It took me so, so long to realize the Nostromo and that massive thing it's towing were separate objects. Made so much more sense that the Xenomorph could hide on something that big.
make no mistake though, the nostromo is still plenty big, about the length of an aircraft carrier. with a crew of only 6 people it still makes sense the alien could stay hidden
I always loved some of the little real life connections the throw in like the ship having Rolls Royce engines or it being registered in Panama for tax reasons. These have zero impact on the story, but create a much more vibrant world where even the evil megacorp that literally controls entire planets is still trying to shave off some percentage of income tax if it can.😂
@@rexxbailey2764Someone has obviously never understood to concept of “World Building”. What’s the matter? Too complex for your little smooth brain to cope with?
@@rexxbailey2764 I get that details like this aren't your cup of tea, but you're commenting on a video that is this cup of tea. So go drink your tea someplace else.
Towards the start, at about 0:08, you can see some notifications on the right, and one of them says "Trinity launch on schedule, Invicta team reports!" That sounds to me like a reference to Invicta S3.
Alien mythos is so rich and has so much potential for more movies. All of the other media dedicated to it shows what could be possible for films. Hopefully, they keep making great pictures like Romulus.
The ship's name was taken from eponymous hero of the 1904 novel Nostromo by Joseph Conrad. It was originally called the Snark, after the Lewis Carroll poem The Hunting of the Snark, then later the Leviathan, before Ridley Scott chose Nostromo due to his love of Conrad's works.
Final report of the commercial starship Nostromo third officer reporting. The other members of my crew Kane Bret Lambert Parker Ash And Captain Dallas are dead. Ship and cargo destroyed. I'll will reach the frontier in a few weeks, with any luck the Network will pick me up. This is Lieutenant Ripley last survivor of the Nostromo signing off.
In Andy Weir's Artemis, Kenya was central to efforts in sustaining a Moon colony. This makes it plausible for me that Panama would evolve it's flag of convenience to interstellar freighters.
I don't think it's ever stated in the movies, but it absolutely needs to. It wouldn't be going around the various star systems it does in the timeframe given at lower than light speeds.
@@Tony1975uk I think a bigger ship would actually go faster in space, all else being equal. No air/ground/water resistance against movement, so larger and more powerful engines would push a larger ship faster. Inertia would probably make the larger ship slower to accelerate, though.
I also thought the Nostromo was a slower than light ship when I first saw Alien. I equated ships with cryosleep chambers to being incapable of breaking the light barrier. See Discovery One in 2001. It wasn't until years later that I read a reference book on Alien that I learned ships were FTL.
Thank goodness the experts say it was a just some debris that destroyed the ship and not a super adaptive, deadly unknown alien species that exhibits colony forming behaviors
Templin, can you guys cover the trope of all powerful civillizations who pretty much control the entire known galaxy still making superweapons eventhough their military just fights rebels? Plus these superweapons are a detriment since they can be captured by rebels
Templin Institute please Mobile Infantry (from Starship Troopers)🙏, if not then how about a KILLZONE Atlas investigation video of the planet Helghans' environment.(Please 🙏)
To put a comparison, the rear half of the ship is of the same size and configuration of the engine/engineering section of a UNSC frigate. The difference is that the UNSC frigate host also a MAC cannon that make the ship more longer of 200 meters roughly, while the "Bison" is completed by just a cargo section and a crew compartment plus the command deck. Apart from that, both ships are quite similar.
Blowing up the ship was a bad move by the surviving crew. They knew what the company was like and that they would be made Scapegoats. They should have just left a warning Beacon explaining in detail what was on board the Nostromo and why not to board it organically. As well, without any evidence, they then become loose ends for whoever in the company set them up. Someone secret with the power to pull hidden strings and who considers them disposable. That may be why drifting in hypersleep for 57 years may have well saved Ripley. By the time she was found, all the original conspirators were dead from old age. Once the surviving crew are off the Nostromo, whether it blows up or not has no direct bearing on their survival in the lifeboat. Except, of course, they now have a fixed time limit to reach minimun safe distance. They are also committed to boarding the lifeboat, even if the Alien is in the way. And unbeknownst to them, all the warning alarms drove the Alien to the one place they weren't blaring - the Lifeboat.
Alien: Romulus, in providing some 'easter eggs' (as well as the entire plot), makes this discovery make no sense. IN a blink and you'll miss it moment, we can see through a window in the space station th 'Life Boat' docked, meaning Weyland-Yutani found Ripley not long after the events of the first movie, but for some unknown reason they still shot her back into space?
A minor little Easter egg at the time was that Dallas was transgender. But today that would just cause a major cultural war flare up. [Edit: as shown in the replies to this comment]
Because today it would be the only part of the character anyone would ever see or know. All other aspects of the characters personality would be gone, all that would be left would be another in a long line of political panderings...
(To anyone who also can see the like-dislike ratio) Wait What? Where's the 40% hate coming from, is it because he forgot the cat? (Not accusatory, just confused)
legendary ship but the last "alien(involving)" movies where kinda disappointing & predictable...kinda expected better, but well, thats what we get these days, i guess...
the idea of a starship in the far future flying the flag of Panama for convenience is good comedy imo
Lower fees and taxes still lol
One wonders if independent planets exist in that universe- ships could fly under the flag of say Mars.
@@markfergerson2145 i'd assume so, yeah. in that case, though, i'd imagine it'd still be more fees flying under Mars than a place like Panama or Liberia. Or if there'd be an equivalent to less scrupulous governments to fly the flag of like that- I.E., Space Panama... or Mars after the events of the Red Faction games.
@@markfergerson2145 I think the alien universe kind of operates on earth nations "controlling" colonies and everything off earth, or at least having like jurisdiction in separate locations since you got the United States Colonial Marines, while in reality Weyland Yutani or it's competitors like Seigson actually control p much everything outside of Earth
Considering the way early interstellar travel will likely unfold in real life, I’d say this is actually surprisingly realistic
1 survivor?
_1½ survivors...._ you're forgetting Jonesy, who should be considered an inspiration to cat owners everywhere.
In the emergency, he allowed himself to be put in the cat cage and was thus saved.
Many a furball would still have been struggling to avoid being put in by the time the ship self destructed...
In the novelization, the Alien kept throwing the cat cage against the floor, trying to break it to get at Jonesy.
Jonesy, the only known lifeform that wasn't intimidated by the Xenomorph.
Contextually, it's Weyland-Yutani who dismissed the cat while saying Ripley confirmed their account.
@@westrimCats are notorious for not doing well in interviews.
@@Tony1975uk "You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you?
Perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility."
Someone talking about a cranky cat.
Lmao, Lockheed Martin still going strong in 2122, and registering the ship in Panama? Glad to know somethings never change lol
I always wondered how the Company knew about the Alien nest and why the whole thing was treated blase'. The world presented in Alien is a lot more mysterious than the sequels ended up recontextualizing it as.
probably some WY ship/probe managed to catch the radio signal sent from the alien shipwreck, and someone in WY managed to exert enough influence to divert Nostromo there to investigate... and whoever it was was probably grreedy enough to overlook all the risks involved. Think Carter Burke in Aliens, just 50 years earlier. Since the Nostromo went missing, we presume whoever it was, got either fired or had not enough influence to send another expedition.
EXACTLY !! AND THE CORPORATIONS MUCH MORE SINISTER AND DARK AND REEALLY UP TO NO GOOD WITH THEIR IMMENSE POWER , THAN THE REST OF THE MOVIES COULD ACTUALLY EVEN COME CLOSE TO SHOWCASE !☝
Well we know they knew of Xenomorphs (thanks to movies like AvP which happen earlier in the timeline) but they hadn't gotten their hands on one, nor did they know where to find one.
But they DID program into their ships a command to wake the crew if they encountered an alien signal, and that they were required - by the company - to investigate and take samples. In terms of mundane aliens it might have just led to more colonization and/ or ET contacts.
But the Nostromo hit on the thing Weylan-Yutani had been hoping for. An actual alien starship, and best of all... those eggs.
I'm also thinking that when the android doctor was added to the roster was because there was supposed to be a hidden android on EVERY ship, but for whatever reason, when the Nostromo left Earth, they hadn't had one ready yet. Like it was a new fleet-wide requirement they'd accidentally skipped. So at Thetis one was assigned to them.
And the rest writes itself.
@@Kalebfenoir just saw the movie somewhat recently, IIRC the android doctor was added to the crew knowing full well they were going to pass by the signal, and MU/TH/UR had explicit instructions from corporate to sacrifice the crew to complete the mission. think it was mentioned that another had picked up the signal but couldnt investigate, and so the Nostromo was re-routed to pass by the planet. however this could just be more of the sinister corpo shii, and for all we know there was already a failed attempt to retrieve a specimen and the nostromo was just the first one to have a survivor.
I like how WY said that Ripley corroborated their story about the rogue asteroid or debris destroying the ship.
I wouldn't expect anything less than the best disinformation from them.
It took me so, so long to realize the Nostromo and that massive thing it's towing were separate objects. Made so much more sense that the Xenomorph could hide on something that big.
make no mistake though, the nostromo is still plenty big, about the length of an aircraft carrier. with a crew of only 6 people it still makes sense the alien could stay hidden
I always loved some of the little real life connections the throw in like the ship having Rolls Royce engines or it being registered in Panama for tax reasons.
These have zero impact on the story, but create a much more vibrant world where even the evil megacorp that literally controls entire planets is still trying to shave off some percentage of income tax if it can.😂
YEAH, EXACTLY THE KINDA CRAP THAT MAKE A NICELY SET STORY ADDED WITH USELESS BULLSHIT.😑😒
@@rexxbailey2764Someone has obviously never understood to concept of “World Building”. What’s the matter? Too complex for your little smooth brain to cope with?
I gotta admit, the ship being built by Lockheed definitely ups its base cool points by ten percent.
@@rexxbailey2764 I get that details like this aren't your cup of tea, but you're commenting on a video that is this cup of tea. So go drink your tea someplace else.
Remember that Earth traffic control is based out of Antarctica.
I like the new editing style. Hotly anticipating any Stellaris Invicta S3 news.
Towards the start, at about 0:08, you can see some notifications on the right, and one of them says "Trinity launch on schedule, Invicta team reports!" That sounds to me like a reference to Invicta S3.
Golden age of starship lore and creation here.
PRIORITY ONE
INSURE RETURN OF ORGANISM FOR ANALYSIS.
ALL OTHER CONSIDERATIONS SECONDARY.
CREW EXPENDABLE.
Ripley angry in her mind
Ash, “There’s an explanation for this.”
Alien mythos is so rich and has so much potential for more movies. All of the other media dedicated to it shows what could be possible for films. Hopefully, they keep making great pictures like Romulus.
Glad to see Lockheed Martin still exist in the distance future.
Sigourney Weaver is the GOAT!!!!
So good. Thank you. How about some investigation on the ships of the Klendathu Offensive, like the Rodger Young (Starship Troopers)?
There is a video about the Rodger Young. It's pretty cool.
The ship's name was taken from eponymous hero of the 1904 novel Nostromo by Joseph Conrad. It was originally called the Snark, after the Lewis Carroll poem The Hunting of the Snark, then later the Leviathan, before Ridley Scott chose Nostromo due to his love of Conrad's works.
I sure am glad that Ripley was able to put the speculation to rest.
This goddamn movie got me hooked to the franchise. It also gave me nightmares.
What about the ship that transported the marines in Aliens?
The Sulaco? Yes pls!
Who else thinks that Romulus really brought back the original vibes of the original Alien movie?!
For the first 30 minutes, and then it turned into a huge festival of references.
That was the goal: to remind you of the good Alien movie(s) because Ridley Scott decided to make the space jockey a thing with an attitude
The constant callbacks and over use of fan service made it hard not to feel it.
Heck yes!
I had hope for the first third of Romulus. The subsequent two thirds slowly killed that hope.
Intro should have been done with MU-TH-UR interface in classic green monochrome
You have an entire world of Starcraft, content like this would be amazing! New to this channel, you're doing amazing work. Subscribed
Absolutely amazing. This is the purpose of the institute?
It's been a minute since, TI covered anything from the ALIEN Franchise.
The unmitigated truth at the end was rather entertaining.
Final report of the commercial starship Nostromo third officer reporting.
The other members of my crew
Kane
Bret
Lambert
Parker
Ash
And Captain Dallas are dead.
Ship and cargo destroyed. I'll will reach the frontier in a few weeks, with any luck the Network will pick me up.
This is Lieutenant Ripley last survivor of the Nostromo signing off.
Dude, finally some good content from this channel
Please do Kromaggs from Sliders and Peacekeepers from Farscape.
Yeah! Sliders needs some love!
@@Theggman83 Definitely.
I love the parallels to age of sail shipping where a voyage could take weeks at minimum.
Jonesy is the last survivor of The Nostromo!
It’s like sailing the Pacific and finding Amelia Earhart on an island, sleeping…. After 50 years of being missing and probably assumed dead
0:12 also, are you kidding me?! No more little quotes in the corner? 😢
Come on give jonesy some credit he's survived too
In Andy Weir's Artemis, Kenya was central to efforts in sustaining a Moon colony. This makes it plausible for me that Panama would evolve it's flag of convenience to interstellar freighters.
YES!! MAKE SOMETHING ABOUT THE SULACO !!!🤩🤩
One would hope that this is followed by a similar piece about the last voyage of the Sulaco.
The ship had FTL capability? I never knew that.
I don't think it's ever stated in the movies, but it absolutely needs to. It wouldn't be going around the various star systems it does in the timeframe given at lower than light speeds.
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem I guess. It's just such a huge hulking ship It's hard to imagine it going that fast.
@@Tony1975uk I think a bigger ship would actually go faster in space, all else being equal. No air/ground/water resistance against movement, so larger and more powerful engines would push a larger ship faster. Inertia would probably make the larger ship slower to accelerate, though.
I also thought the Nostromo was a slower than light ship when I first saw Alien. I equated ships with cryosleep chambers to being incapable of breaking the light barrier. See Discovery One in 2001.
It wasn't until years later that I read a reference book on Alien that I learned ships were FTL.
@@TheVeritas1 Yeah being in cryosleep and FTL are counterintuitive.
3:05 It's Mr Fusion on a wall mount.
Thank goodness the experts say it was a just some debris that destroyed the ship and not a super adaptive, deadly unknown alien species that exhibits colony forming behaviors
Templin, can you guys cover the trope of all powerful civillizations who pretty much control the entire known galaxy still making superweapons eventhough their military just fights rebels? Plus these superweapons are a detriment since they can be captured by rebels
Can Templin cover the UNN Von Braun / Rickenbacker mission?
Please make a ship breakdown video on the Archangel from Gundam SEED.
What a lovely ship.
I see the Night Lords jumped the warp to the past
You guys should really do the GTR greater Korean republic from home front that would be a super interesting video
0:12 at entry 13 :42 on the right hand side… why does that name seem familiar?
LOL at the chaps at the TI for adopting the LockMart name from the folks at NonCredibleDefenss.
You are, my lucky star.....
Lockheed Martin does it again.
What do you think of the vessels in in sci-fi settings?
Templin Institute please Mobile Infantry (from Starship Troopers)🙏, if not then how about a KILLZONE Atlas investigation video of the planet Helghans' environment.(Please 🙏)
i suppose the crew is on reduced or no pay while in hypersleep
I bet you're right.
That 'lifeboat' was a shuttle, it had a name: USCSS Narcissus
The video names the shuttle.
I do not get what people's problem is but now we know even more that cats are god's favorite
I often wonder what technology was used to create the artificial gravity throughout the Nostromo.
does this video mean we will get more alien videos ? i always thought more where coming
Make a video detailing The Dominion from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
To put a comparison, the rear half of the ship is of the same size and configuration of the engine/engineering section of a UNSC frigate.
The difference is that the UNSC frigate host also a MAC cannon that make the ship more longer of 200 meters roughly, while the "Bison" is completed by just a cargo section and a crew compartment plus the command deck.
Apart from that, both ships are quite similar.
Huh. I never noticed that. That's pretty cool.
(This doesn't mean that Alien and Halo are connected, does it?)
@@occam7382 nooo. There's no connection.
Halo was partially inspired by Alien. But that's all.
I stopped going to space once I saw whats up in Mars orbit.
A bit of an odd request, in a future vid, can you do an analysis on the city of Mainframe from the show "ReBoot", please?
They say the user lives outside the net, and inputs games for pleasue... nobody knows for sure, but we can try to find out.
I ❤ Lockheed Martin
Why would a spaceship need a self destruct? - Maryam d'Abo (Something Is Out There / scifi mini-series 1988)
Blowing up the ship was a bad move by the surviving crew. They knew what the company was like and that they would be made Scapegoats.
They should have just left a warning Beacon explaining in detail what was on board the Nostromo and why not to board it organically.
As well, without any evidence, they then become loose ends for whoever in the company set them up. Someone secret with the power to pull hidden strings and who considers them disposable.
That may be why drifting in hypersleep for 57 years may have well saved Ripley. By the time she was found, all the original conspirators were dead from old age.
Once the surviving crew are off the Nostromo, whether it blows up or not has no direct bearing on their survival in the lifeboat. Except, of course, they now have a fixed time limit to reach minimun safe distance.
They are also committed to boarding the lifeboat, even if the Alien is in the way.
And unbeknownst to them, all the warning alarms drove the Alien to the one place they weren't blaring - the Lifeboat.
Wouldn't have been nearly as intense an ending to the movie though.
And what about Jonesy, the cat?
Alien: Romulus, in providing some 'easter eggs' (as well as the entire plot), makes this discovery make no sense.
IN a blink and you'll miss it moment, we can see through a window in the space station th 'Life Boat' docked, meaning Weyland-Yutani found Ripley not long after the events of the first movie, but for some unknown reason they still shot her back into space?
A minor little Easter egg at the time was that Dallas was transgender. But today that would just cause a major cultural war flare up.
[Edit: as shown in the replies to this comment]
Because today it would be the only part of the character anyone would ever see or know. All other aspects of the characters personality would be gone, all that would be left would be another in a long line of political panderings...
Wonder why oppressed minorities would find visibility important
@@Theggman83 Found the transphobe
Really? I never picked up on that. Was it in the movie? Or in a novel?
@@Tony1975uk It's a blink and you miss it medical detail on a screen in one of the sequels
Please Dear Templin Institute! Could you please make a video from the NERV, from Neon Genesis Evangelion Anime? :)
The Nostromo was flagged out of the Solomon Islands, not Panama.
0:53 say that again
(To anyone who also can see the like-dislike ratio) Wait What?
Where's the 40% hate coming from, is it because he forgot the cat?
(Not accusatory, just confused)
i see 884 upvotes, 8 downvotes
thats not 40%. that's 1 percent
@@robertlinke2666 I swear I saw at least 24 downvotes the last time I looked...
Must have been UA-cam fucking up. False alarm then
Could this also be expanded into a deep dive of the Xenomorphs and Predator species? 🤔
Good idea.
Impossible Mission Force (IMF)
KCCO from Girls' Frontlines by chance?
Yikes I’m early
Commenting 4 algorithm
0:51 heheh
Didn't expect y'all to shill for the corpos...
Weyland Yutani, building better worlds.
legendary ship
but the last "alien(involving)" movies where kinda disappointing & predictable...kinda expected better, but well, thats what we get these days, i guess...
In space, no one can hear you scream.
I'm fairly sure it is not how fusion reactors work.
What about time slowing the closer you get to the speed of light?
But why AI narrated? Cost cutting?
It’s like sailing the Pacific and finding Amelia Earhart on an island, sleeping…. After 50 years of being missing and probably assumed dead
But why AI narrated? Cost cutting?