I don't really agree with techies who say "once you go deep black (of OLED screens), you can't go back." 😂 I have an (originally) $500 6.8" OLED phone, and an 11.5" OLED tablet, but I don't really mind watching Netflix on my $120 8.4" LCD tablet. I actually prefer using that tablet for content consumption over my phone due to screen size. For the people who watch shows and keep thinking "I really wish I was watching this on an OLED screen," maybe you should be watching better shows instead? Demon Slayer is so engaging that when I watched it on my cheap tablet, it never even occurred to me to stop and switch to my OLED tablet. Don't get me wrong. I like OLED displays, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying content watched from an LCD screen.
Still enjoying my OnePlus Pad 1 even though I didn't get a keyboard cover. This looks even more capable but surprised to not hear my #1 reason for choosing it which is the 7:5 aspect ratio. Basically somewhere between Surface 3:2 and iPad 4:3. I believe almost all other Android tablets are 16:10 which always feels weird to me to use as a tablet. But if you're using it more as a laptop replacement it's not such a big advantage.
Had mine since launch to go along with my OnePlus 12 and its been great. No complaints I replaced my Lenovo Duet 5 with this and this is alot smoother than that was. I haven't gotten the AI studio app yet I haven't gotten any updates on my pad 2 yet either in America.
Odd. I got one big update after launch, but I dont know if that was because we were on beta software or not. I'll be curious to see how Chrome is handled over the next year or two. I think we're due to see Chrome get merged into Android, and Android should get a proper desktop grade browser.
I am a Oneplus fan of its battery and charging tech. My oneplus 12 is my most recent device. My son got his i OnePlus Open... So lots of OnePlus here. Still haven't gotten one of their tablets. Glad you are spending quality time trying to figure out where this device can fit in. Your priorities are not mine (as you always say!) My recent cheap tab purchase leaned heavily towards sd card support and 512 gb storage. Since OnePlus didn't have that I saved even more cash this time around. Maybe another time I can get a little more of a Ferrari feeling with a oneplus rather than the slower truck type tablet I settled for.
It's the main thing I don't like about "ecosystem". You can totally see a decision made "if they have a phone paired to this, and can stream, why do they need more storage?"
While I do like what Samsung and OnePlus (and Google somehow) are doing with the tablets on Android, having phones with desktop mode and old gen laptops, especially mobile workstations that are getting skinnier without losing power, negates my need for one of those tablets. Also, Surface is still around in the case I must (like I MUST) have a touchscreen that also can take a pen. I think also the trend of having incomplete features that you can use already in the phones (even from their same brand) and the laptops don't help this kind of tablets, which is absurd at the prices they ask for.
@@LaczPro i own a cheap tablet on the side for voice recorder app for gaining evidence and photos. also call recorder apps dont work so speaker with second device recording stellar. also voice files alit smaller space than video recording evidence which is alit more useful on file management. im always carrying both my phone and tablet. the tsblet kind of like spy device. but legal done so. i use the samsung a8. pretty happy with it. especially the cost.
Wish OnePlus made a charging dock for this it's my favorite feature on my pixel tablet I never have to worry about charging it especially when I need it like once or twice a day .
I’m glad to see OnePlus continuing on with the Pad line, I liked my experience with the first one, but had some screen blur and some weird software issues so I sent it back. Kind of bummed to see they changed the screen size here, I liked the more iPad screen ratio of the last one (portrait mode with a video playing on top and a browser on the bottom was so nice). Hope Google keeps on supporting their tablets again, I really do like them.
My Tab S7 is still running, and still gets around my work easily. My boss cant even tell I'm working on my laptop except that the web camera is so much clearer and better.
I'm planning on buying one soon. I've been looking for an Android tablet solution and Google's Pixel tablet gets really mixed reviews. This sounds worlds better.
I find Android to be a superior experience for watching UA-cam and a lot of streaming content in general, HDR video. And in most cases better battery life, more portable... Etc .. my only reservation on this one might be that there's no 512 GB model and I assume no SD card slot. That's a little bit of a bummer because my current tablet tab S7 has 512 GB and SD card expansion if I need it. But even Samsung discontinued the 512 GB version of their 11-in tablets so I'm just going to ride out my Galaxy tab for a while.
I think that makes the most sense. A tablet should be flipped somewhere inbetween a phone and a laptop. As for the storage, it is a little limiting for sure. Especially after using the open. I thikn that's one of the bad areas of ecosystem. The idea that you'd use it with your phone, and that has MORE storage, doesn't quite sit right.
It requires a LITTLE more work finding the apps and services that fit your workflow, but I've been able to switch up and go totally phone-based to get my work done if I need to. It's kind of liberating being able to shake up your services.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I can work my way very well with android big geek here hehe. But yes For me I don't use laptop anymore I don't need it for work so I just need mobile device with big screen for some light work and entertainment
Then yeah, a good tablet might be the trick. Even going back an older gen would probably do you fine. Like, wait for the Galaxy Tab S10 and then shop sales on the S9 or the Oneplus pad 1.
Great and interesting review. I never had a oneplus product, but after this video i am considering it. I just hate these kind of Keyboard covers... Back then, I broke a Surface 4 because it slipped from my knees as he magnet wasnt strong enough (same concept as this one). With my S6 it was the same problem... The magnets weren't strong enough and it always moved, so I had to improvise and fix it with mirror adhesive. I wish they would simply come up with keyboard solutions that actually attach to the tablet like a notebook.
Hi Juan, nice review. I'm planning to get this or wait for the Samsung Tab S10 plus because of Dex Mode but I prefer the OnePlus UI. Does it have a proper desktop UI and video out?
Will it connect to a external monitor for video and audio streaming? After my comment I see that you said you connected the tablet to a monitor. Great news. Thanks for the video.
Would you be willing to try to connect an m.2 enclosure to it if you have one and see if the device boots it? I'm trying to do it but it seems like the tablet can't provide sufficient power to boot it.
I have this tablet. Generally I think it is a great tablet, quick and actually a very nice and very bright display. It is a bit heavy, but that’s ok. Compared to the iPads I have had I have found that the Edge rejektion is somewhat bad. When I hold the tablet is often triggers unwanted events. But what you get for the price is really unbeatable.
It depends on what you need? A surface will be a more capable computer, but getting closer to this price means an older Intel system. I MIGHT be writing a script about my Robo and Kala though, and how windows compares against this OnePlus...
Guys is it worth $400? Just sold my iPad Pro 11 2020 as I was just bored after having it for 4 years. Basically bored of expanded iPhone. I found OnePlus Pad 2 for $400 with the keyboard case so it seems interesting.
Juan, I'm wondering what you think of this tablet vs the OG OnePlus Pad at $200 less? Is it worth it to spend up almost double for this, or is it a good idea to just save the cash?
@@SomeGadgetGuy Video out is the one feature I would miss most since it's been on every mobile device I've owned in the last ten years, and I like having that flexibility, but I don't think I'd want to spend double for that feature (maybe if the keyboard included backlighting too). I'm looking to replace my Google Pixel Slate, since the keyboard is no longer functioning. I guess I'd be mainly using it as a companion device to my LG v60 (web browsing, UA-cam, some Android gaming / emulation, and mostly game streaming from my main PC). I guess it's a way to help stretch out the useful life of my v60 for another year or two, until the next crop of folding phones can really give me the urge to upgrade --- maybe if more companies come out with a Mate XL competitor to drive down the price a little...
Got this for my daughters 5 birthday with the pen and she loves it it truly is the best android tablet I have used. Me and the mrs both on iPads and use the pencil but the pen on the one plus is great
@ SGG: I really appreciate your reviews. I also think the new Honor Pad 2 would be a great contender for the best 12" Android tablet... I would love a comparison video ;) BTW. I believe it is the Snap 8s Gen 3, still should be plenty fast.
i have a samsung tab s9 ultra and (since they have great trade in price for s9 ultra) thought about trading it in for the oneplus 2 + keyboard + pen (and have some money left over) since oneplus 2 has the newer gen processor. however, i've seen (online) benchmarks showing samsung's gen 2 snapdragon was running faster than oneplus's gen 3 snapdragon. what gives?
I prefer to use Touch ID on my phone and tablet (and windows hello on my laptop and pc) so I wish Oneplus had used Touch ID on their tablet. But this tablet still looks pretty solid. Since my next phone may be a Oneplus 12, their tablet is also high on my wish list.
Hello , I saw a lot of complains about rotation function to be laggy and nonresponsive that you need to shake and rotate the device multiple times to really rotate , is this true?
I was wanting the latest iPad Pro for some mobile stuff, and wasn't considering an Android tablet, but Juan sold this to me. 😅 It's half the price and I'm not exactly an OLED display snob, so I'll survive with the grey-ish blacks just fine.
@@BurntOrangeHorn78 Doesn't mean it'll work over there. I know most Chinese tablets don't have LTE/5G connectivity support. But even if they do, it won't share the same cellular band as in China.
Most people looking at this video would be familiar with the iPad and are looking at Android alternatives with a top of the line chipset and are unfamiliar with the state of Android in tablets. This video does not elaborate on the daily tablet usage but focuses on comparisons with a similarly priced Windows laptop. This video could have focused more on the features of Android and Oxygen OS to help potential buyers make an informed decision.
Well that, and I did the set up intro/video. A handholding walk through of the OS, for people who want to be spoon fed the basics, but aren't going to buy a tablet like this anyway, is not what should be in a review. That's a waste of time.
What makes this and other tablet screens trash is the reflectivity and no putting a matte chinese shit protector on is not a viable solution for clarity and retaining display quality, sadly same goes for all oled tech out there - extremely reflective :(
I don't really agree with techies who say "once you go deep black (of OLED screens), you can't go back." 😂 I have an (originally) $500 6.8" OLED phone, and an 11.5" OLED tablet, but I don't really mind watching Netflix on my $120 8.4" LCD tablet. I actually prefer using that tablet for content consumption over my phone due to screen size. For the people who watch shows and keep thinking "I really wish I was watching this on an OLED screen," maybe you should be watching better shows instead? Demon Slayer is so engaging that when I watched it on my cheap tablet, it never even occurred to me to stop and switch to my OLED tablet. Don't get me wrong. I like OLED displays, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying content watched from an LCD screen.
It cracks me up. Like a bunch of "techies" learned two facts about displays, and then made that their WHOLE personality.
Awesome I have the tab a 9 plus it's lcd
@@SomeGadgetGuyBro, that's painfully accurate!!! 😆
Still enjoying my OnePlus Pad 1 even though I didn't get a keyboard cover. This looks even more capable but surprised to not hear my #1 reason for choosing it which is the 7:5 aspect ratio. Basically somewhere between Surface 3:2 and iPad 4:3. I believe almost all other Android tablets are 16:10 which always feels weird to me to use as a tablet. But if you're using it more as a laptop replacement it's not such a big advantage.
I'm kinda coming around on squarer/taller screens. It's definitely nicer for two docs side by side.
7:5 is virtually the same that Din-A4 paper sheet. I think it's a great choice for a productivity tablet. 😊
"I'm not exactly an artist" [proceeds to show off a kickass drawing]
I was so proud of how that came out, but like Rob liefeld, I really messed up the feet...
Had mine since launch to go along with my OnePlus 12 and its been great. No complaints I replaced my Lenovo Duet 5 with this and this is alot smoother than that was. I haven't gotten the AI studio app yet I haven't gotten any updates on my pad 2 yet either in America.
Odd. I got one big update after launch, but I dont know if that was because we were on beta software or not.
I'll be curious to see how Chrome is handled over the next year or two. I think we're due to see Chrome get merged into Android, and Android should get a proper desktop grade browser.
@@SomeGadgetGuy yea I've had mine since launch and I'm still on .224 but I see there's been like 3 updates since then
I am a Oneplus fan of its battery and charging tech. My oneplus 12 is my most recent device. My son got his i OnePlus Open... So lots of OnePlus here.
Still haven't gotten one of their tablets. Glad you are spending quality time trying to figure out where this device can fit in. Your priorities are not mine (as you always say!)
My recent cheap tab purchase leaned heavily towards sd card support and 512 gb storage. Since OnePlus didn't have that I saved even more cash this time around. Maybe another time I can get a little more of a Ferrari feeling with a oneplus rather than the slower truck type tablet I settled for.
It's the main thing I don't like about "ecosystem". You can totally see a decision made "if they have a phone paired to this, and can stream, why do they need more storage?"
While I do like what Samsung and OnePlus (and Google somehow) are doing with the tablets on Android, having phones with desktop mode and old gen laptops, especially mobile workstations that are getting skinnier without losing power, negates my need for one of those tablets. Also, Surface is still around in the case I must (like I MUST) have a touchscreen that also can take a pen. I think also the trend of having incomplete features that you can use already in the phones (even from their same brand) and the laptops don't help this kind of tablets, which is absurd at the prices they ask for.
@@LaczPro i own a cheap tablet on the side for voice recorder app for gaining evidence and photos. also call recorder apps dont work so speaker with second device recording stellar. also voice files alit smaller space than video recording evidence which is alit more useful on file management.
im always carrying both my phone and tablet. the tsblet kind of like spy device. but legal done so.
i use the samsung a8. pretty happy with it. especially the cost.
Wish OnePlus made a charging dock for this it's my favorite feature on my pixel tablet I never have to worry about charging it especially when I need it like once or twice a day .
It doesn't spend much time on the charger. OP's top off pretty quick. Even for the large tablet battery.
Is this the display better than the pad one?
I’m glad to see OnePlus continuing on with the Pad line, I liked my experience with the first one, but had some screen blur and some weird software issues so I sent it back. Kind of bummed to see they changed the screen size here, I liked the more iPad screen ratio of the last one (portrait mode with a video playing on top and a browser on the bottom was so nice). Hope Google keeps on supporting their tablets again, I really do like them.
The absence of the fingerprint sensor is the biggest deal breaker for me
Tbf the face Id is really fast
My Tab S7 is still running, and still gets around my work easily. My boss cant even tell I'm working on my laptop except that the web camera is so much clearer and better.
I'm planning on buying one soon. I've been looking for an Android tablet solution and Google's Pixel tablet gets really mixed reviews. This sounds worlds better.
If you're looking at compute power, I'm not sure a follow up Pixel Tablet will be significantly different than the current one.
I find Android to be a superior experience for watching UA-cam and a lot of streaming content in general, HDR video. And in most cases better battery life, more portable... Etc .. my only reservation on this one might be that there's no 512 GB model and I assume no SD card slot. That's a little bit of a bummer because my current tablet tab S7 has 512 GB and SD card expansion if I need it.
But even Samsung discontinued the 512 GB version of their 11-in tablets so I'm just going to ride out my Galaxy tab for a while.
I think that makes the most sense. A tablet should be flipped somewhere inbetween a phone and a laptop.
As for the storage, it is a little limiting for sure. Especially after using the open. I thikn that's one of the bad areas of ecosystem. The idea that you'd use it with your phone, and that has MORE storage, doesn't quite sit right.
I have a PC. So an android tablet would fit my use more than a laptop. The OnePlus tab really looks good
It requires a LITTLE more work finding the apps and services that fit your workflow, but I've been able to switch up and go totally phone-based to get my work done if I need to. It's kind of liberating being able to shake up your services.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I can work my way very well with android big geek here hehe. But yes
For me I don't use laptop anymore I don't need it for work so I just need mobile device with big screen for some light work and entertainment
Then yeah, a good tablet might be the trick. Even going back an older gen would probably do you fine. Like, wait for the Galaxy Tab S10 and then shop sales on the S9 or the Oneplus pad 1.
Great and interesting review. I never had a oneplus product, but after this video i am considering it. I just hate these kind of Keyboard covers... Back then, I broke a Surface 4 because it slipped from my knees as he magnet wasnt strong enough (same concept as this one). With my S6 it was the same problem... The magnets weren't strong enough and it always moved, so I had to improvise and fix it with mirror adhesive. I wish they would simply come up with keyboard solutions that actually attach to the tablet like a notebook.
I got it and definitely better than Samsung
Hi Juan, nice review. I'm planning to get this or wait for the Samsung Tab S10 plus because of Dex Mode but I prefer the OnePlus UI. Does it have a proper desktop UI and video out?
How is the docked desktop mode experience? Does it support ultra widescreens?
I posted a video on it... You can check if interested on the Desktop mode
@@IAmGizmogeek Thank you
Will you be reviewing and comparing the S10+ and the Black Shark in the near future?
you use firefox on an android tablet ? how's the expericence on a tablet ?
I like it. I've got my little work flow set with the add ons I like. I wish I could set the overall size a bit smaller, but it's good.
00:46 since the tab S10 came with a Dimensity 9300+ , this could go head to head with it- right?
It's a SOLID fight between the two yeah.
Did anyone know Does it have a better desktop mode after android 15 update?
Will it connect to a external monitor for video and audio streaming? After my comment I see that you said you connected the tablet to a monitor. Great news. Thanks for the video.
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How is the haptic feedback. For example I have the Lenovo Y700 2023 and was disappointed with that in terms of haptic coming from Ipad pro.
Would you be willing to try to connect an m.2 enclosure to it if you have one and see if the device boots it? I'm trying to do it but it seems like the tablet can't provide sufficient power to boot it.
What about this vs a Redmagic Nova tablet?
I have this tablet. Generally I think it is a great tablet, quick and actually a very nice and very bright display. It is a bit heavy, but that’s ok. Compared to the iPads I have had I have found that the Edge rejektion is somewhat bad. When I hold the tablet is often triggers unwanted events.
But what you get for the price is really unbeatable.
Yup working the doodle, I switched away from gesture navigation.
I'm sorry that this is a different subject, but I'm curious to know why you haven't done a review on any of the Pixel Pro 9 series?
I have.
www.patreon.com/posts/pixel-9-pro-xl-111306811
www.patreon.com/posts/is-pixel-9-pro-111927893
www.patreon.com/posts/pixel-9-pro-xl-110925348
www.patreon.com/posts/entirely-biased-111585444
Do you think the surface pro tablet would be a better idea for the price?
It depends on what you need? A surface will be a more capable computer, but getting closer to this price means an older Intel system.
I MIGHT be writing a script about my Robo and Kala though, and how windows compares against this OnePlus...
If you do need to use desktop softwares, stick with Surface Pro. If you can live with mobile apps, this is worth considering.
Guys is it worth $400? Just sold my iPad Pro 11 2020 as I was just bored after having it for 4 years. Basically bored of expanded iPhone. I found OnePlus Pad 2 for $400 with the keyboard case so it seems interesting.
That's a SOLID buy for $400.
Juan, I'm wondering what you think of this tablet vs the OG OnePlus Pad at $200 less? Is it worth it to spend up almost double for this, or is it a good idea to just save the cash?
Depends on what you need in a tablet, features like video out.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Video out is the one feature I would miss most since it's been on every mobile device I've owned in the last ten years, and I like having that flexibility, but I don't think I'd want to spend double for that feature (maybe if the keyboard included backlighting too). I'm looking to replace my Google Pixel Slate, since the keyboard is no longer functioning. I guess I'd be mainly using it as a companion device to my LG v60 (web browsing, UA-cam, some Android gaming / emulation, and mostly game streaming from my main PC). I guess it's a way to help stretch out the useful life of my v60 for another year or two, until the next crop of folding phones can really give me the urge to upgrade --- maybe if more companies come out with a Mate XL competitor to drive down the price a little...
I agree with the track pad being a sorethumb with this otherwise really good device.
I was debating on getting this one or the Honor Magicpad 2, I went with Honor for the Oled screen
People who bought it on the first week got the keyboard and pen for just 525USD, pre order was 299 (just the tablet)
Yup, but I feel the only fair way to categorize is by MSRP. Sales change over time.
Got this for my daughters 5 birthday with the pen and she loves it it truly is the best android tablet I have used. Me and the mrs both on iPads and use the pencil but the pen on the one plus is great
She also loves Mario kart 8 on the tablet 😮
I mean... I certainly cant comment on anything like that, but BOY HOWDY does it run well...
I m taking it for media consumption and note taking is it good?
@@_aritra_dey_7317 games (side loaded modded apps) education apps and media consumption (number blocks etc)
@@_aritra_dey_7317 Yes. The stylus and note taking app is not as good but a software update can improve it.
but where are accented letters on the keyboard?
Do a comparison with the new honor pad. Same processor but oled
I don't think Honor is available in the USA.
@@farishanafiah8461it's not
@ SGG: I really appreciate your reviews.
I also think the new Honor Pad 2 would be a great contender for the best 12" Android tablet...
I would love a comparison video ;)
BTW. I believe it is the Snap 8s Gen 3, still should be plenty fast.
Is there a pc mode?How is video out. Mirror and extend screen.
i have a samsung tab s9 ultra and (since they have great trade in price for s9 ultra) thought about trading it in for the oneplus 2 + keyboard + pen (and have some money left over) since oneplus 2 has the newer gen processor. however, i've seen (online) benchmarks showing samsung's gen 2 snapdragon was running faster than oneplus's gen 3 snapdragon. what gives?
What I hate is that they say Dolby Vision but it really doesn't work with Netflix. An OLED would been great.
Wish they charged a bit more and put in an OLED screen and a micro SD slot.
Hello, I'm Ajay..
Is it good for taking classes for 4 to 5 hours daily?
Should have no problem.
Depends on what you need for you class, but id imagine it would do well.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I need for med notes taking
I prefer to use Touch ID on my phone and tablet (and windows hello on my laptop and pc) so I wish Oneplus had used Touch ID on their tablet. But this tablet still looks pretty solid. Since my next phone may be a Oneplus 12, their tablet is also high on my wish list.
Hello , I saw a lot of complains about rotation function to be laggy and nonresponsive that you need to shake and rotate the device multiple times to really rotate , is this true?
LOL no.
I was wanting the latest iPad Pro for some mobile stuff, and wasn't considering an Android tablet, but Juan sold this to me. 😅
It's half the price and I'm not exactly an OLED display snob, so I'll survive with the grey-ish blacks just fine.
I am kind of an enabler like that. Sorry 😅
Can you EXPAND the image in a external screen apart from DUPLICATE it? How? 🤯
Developer options, desktop mode 👍
people with pwm sensitivity?🌹❤
stylus with palm rejection for this tab under 2000
This tab is a beast for the price. I returned my pixel tab
That's one of the comparisons I should have hit harder. They have very different transformations, but head to head, op scores huge performance wins.
Are these easy to use with multiple user accounts? I hate Apple's "one expensive device for one user" mentality.
Aren't u glad Microsoft invented Bluetooth keyboards with the new Surface??
But Robo & Kala did it first 🤯🤯🤯
@@SomeGadgetGuyHeck, Lenovo beat them for years.
Pity it's an LCD screen.
I don't see anything wrong with it. If anything, I'm happy it's an IPS LCD panel. It's always more reliable and cheaper to repair than OLED panel
So what? Doesn't mean it's gonna be bad.
I'm not much of an artist!!! Ok lol
Oneplus make a 14 inch model!
This pad support 3rd party stylus
Honor Magic Pad 2.
It's not available in the USA.
@@farishanafiah8461
Ships and planes say you are wrong.
@@BurntOrangeHorn78 Doesn't mean it'll work over there. I know most Chinese tablets don't have LTE/5G connectivity support. But even if they do, it won't share the same cellular band as in China.
@@farishanafiah8461 The Honor Magic pad 2 is WiFi and BT only.
I'm curious to see how it would compare to something like an iPad Air M2, since they are pretty close in price.
The review i was anticipating
Most people looking at this video would be familiar with the iPad and are looking at Android alternatives with a top of the line chipset and are unfamiliar with the state of Android in tablets. This video does not elaborate on the daily tablet usage but focuses on comparisons with a similarly priced Windows laptop. This video could have focused more on the features of Android and Oxygen OS to help potential buyers make an informed decision.
Custom Android OS is best to experience for personal self.
Well that, and I did the set up intro/video.
A handholding walk through of the OS, for people who want to be spoon fed the basics, but aren't going to buy a tablet like this anyway, is not what should be in a review.
That's a waste of time.
Long story short for all you viewers: [Redacted] 😂. Watch it for yourself
SPOILERS?!?!?!
😅
I'll add a question mark like this to induce excitement for the video ❗ 😂 @@SomeGadgetGuy
WHEW! That was close!
What makes this and other tablet screens trash is the reflectivity and no putting a matte chinese shit protector on is not a viable solution for clarity and retaining display quality, sadly same goes for all oled tech out there - extremely reflective :(