Did you already know how vacuum insulated containers work before watching this? I didn't really fully understand it myself until I did some research for this video. If you liked this, you might like my Ninja Dual Brew Pro Coffee Maker Review as well: ua-cam.com/video/AMAUC5pcWyw/v-deo.html
For those wondering like me. I Just tested the temp from boiling water 212 degrees. After 5 minutes the sip perfect brought it down to 168 f. This was with a full 16 oz and with the lid on and closed. For comparison, my stanley was still at 198.
I love my sip cup. It doesn't fit in my cup holder unless i take the sleeve off. My only problem is the silicon boot on the cap that keeps it from leaking came off and I think I swallowed it. But the best thing is ninja customer service is awesome. They sent me a whole new sipper free. I use mine everyday. I love it.
That's awesome to hear... Except for the bit about the seal! That's on the inside though, and not sure that it could even come through the hole if it fell off, but I haven't tried... In any case, you've probably already passed that thing if ya did. Haha.
Wow Joe! Thanks for doing this review! 😎👌I have an Ember mug that I use at my easy chair, and I have it set for my preferred temperature of 140°. My coffee maker produces coffee that starts out at 182°, but in the open top Ember mug it cools to a drinkable temperature pretty quickly. And then the Ember holds it there at my preferred 140° temperature. (I know, I'm pretty spoiled right ☺) Anyhow, it's a different story in my SS Thermos travel mug. It takes quite a while for my 180° coffee to cool to a drinkable temperature in that. I wonder if the Ninja would cool it quicker and then hold it there like it says. Or if it would require adding creamer for it to work. I know I could just add an ice cube. But then it would dilute my coffee and I like it black and strong. Thanks for the great review. 👍
I'd probably leave the sip thing open to let some of the heat out to bring it down a little. We have one of the ember coffee cups also. Those are cool.
@@JoesPhenomenal Yeah, I love my Ember. I wonder how a coffee cup would do with that "heatstore technology" stuff in the walls. I wonder If it would retain the heat in your cup. Ninja should make a coffee cup with that stuff in it. I ordered a sip perfect. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for the great review.
@escheidl you got it! Thanks. On a coffee cup, the heatstore wouldn't work as well if it didn't have a lid on it. That's one of the things I like about those embers.
@@JoesPhenomenal Well I got my Sipperfect cup and have been doing some cyphering and testing. I’ve been really trying to wrap my head around their claims like “Control the heat for the perfect sip”, “Reaches perfect temp IN MINUTES”, and “Stays at perfect temp FOR HOURS”. So what sets this apart from all the other insulated mugs out there that simply retain heat for as long as possible? It’s the “Heatstore” technology, which I think may be some sort of wax filling in the space between the inner cup and outer shell. But Ninja has done a terrible job explaining how it works, as well as what it takes to make it work. The clue's are in the “Tips” section in the “Use and Care Guide”. There are 4 very important bullet points, but the one that kept running through my head was the 3rd bullet point which said, “Cool your travel mug down between refills. Rinse and fill with ice cold water, let sit 3 minutes, and rinse again.” Now that was really confusing because at the end of the guide it says “To enhance heat retention, preheat the travel mug by filling it with hot water”. Say what??? I was so confused. But after pondering over it for a bit, I figured the secrets to the success for it to be able to achieve the results befitting the grandiose claims of excessive heat reduction, and perfect temperature control and maintenance “for hours” revolved around the 4 bullet points on the tips page. So I conducted a test using my Thermos “Stainless King” 16 oz. travel mug. I tested them both the same to achieve “phenomenal” test results like my buddy Joe would. 😉 So here is what I did. I filled both mugs with ice water and let them sit for 3 minutes. They were both at 33 deg. F I poured 185 deg. water from my water dispenser into both of them. The chilled mugs immediately cooled the water to: Ninja 168 (chilled Heatstore already at work) Thermos 178 (cold steel doing what cold steel does) 5 minutes later: Ninja 152 (chilled Heatstore filling effectively drawing the heat out of the water) Thermos 173 (Doing a good job retaining heat through effective insulation) 10 minutes later: Ninja 149 (nearing perfect temp. I like my coffee at 140-145) Thermos 172 (still way too hot to drink) 1:10 minutes later: Ninja 143 (maintaining perfect temp) Thermos 162 (still too hot) 2:10 minutes later: Ninja 135 (still close to perfect temp) Thermos 152 (starting to get tolerable) So the key to making the Ninja perform as promised isn’t by putting "0.375 oz. of room temperature creamer" in it. You can do that with any mug. But rather, the secret is “cooling” the mug with ice cold water before filling with hot liquid and between refills. That is what causes the Heatstore stuff to quickly “draw” the heat out of the liquid and “store” it in the lining to radiate back to maintain the temperature longer. It’s pretty ingenious technology, something that the competition doesn't have, but the instruction team does a terrible job of explaining how it works and why it’s so important to chill the mug beforehand. If it wasn’t for the tips page and a real desire to understand the technology, I would have never figured it out. So this works very well for me because my Thermos mug kept my coffee so hot that I ended up having to wait way too long before I could enjoy it. I know I could have just put a few ice cubes in it (and I’ve done that before), but I just don’t like the way it dilutes my coffee. This Ninja cup has me enjoying my coffee within 10 minutes and my coffee seldom lasts more than about an hour because I’m enjoying it so much more. So this is a win for me. Sorry for the long post but I just thought you’d like to know.
Yeah... The Ninjas are pretty nice, but a little pricey. I really love the lid design though... I think you're the first person to use one of the member emojis, also!
I think there's a LOT more you could do to make this a more objective and fair review. Get some temp probes and log the temperature over time in several situations with several different travel mugs. Lid on, Lid off. For bonus points, lid open, lid closed. I ordered the 12oz to give it a try, and my "dumb" temp probe that can't connect to anything is reporting that the mug actually takes the temp down to 150f fairly quickly and keeps it there. Is this too hot to be sippable? that's the real question... and it's very subjective. For me, 145f seems just right - and to be clear, I didn't know this until i sat here with a temp probe in a Sip Perfect full of hot water. I'm not really a fan of the lid style though. The bigger issue for this is that this thing is HUGE for the capacity. I have a zojirushi travel mug that is skinnier and shorter and it has a 16oz capacity. I can't imagine how big the 16oz sip perfect is... this one, lid off, barely fits in my MyCafe MCU coffee maker. But my problem with the zojirushi is that i always have to leave the top off because it holds heat too well, and the bottom is so skinny that when i use it around the house i'm always afraid it'll topple. The lid also isn't water-tight. So despite the lid style, I think this one might be a keeper!
When I started the channel, I repainted the kitchen from just basic colors to black walls and white cabinets. Then we bought a new place, and we had white on white with the grey accents. The place with the blue walls is my recording studio that I built in the back yard inside of a 12x16 Tuff Shed
I think ninja implies it would have a longer plateau than other insulated cups. Most just have a steady decline in temperature, whereas ninja implies a sharp(?) decrease to a steady drinking temperature for hours assisted by a 3rd layer. I think the Heatstore test should have been conducted for how long it maintains the "Perfect temperature" in that 125 to 135 range. Also, the asterisk, IMO, doesn't imply that the Heatstore is activated by cream, but rather maintained without excessive cream. Less than 1oz! So, maybe not for people that LIKE THEIR CREAM with coffee. Appreciate the review @joesphenomenal, but the test left more questions than answers.
Also, opening the top to test loses the seal/vacuum and loses heat. Why not replicate how most would use it - pour the beverage out into another cup? One with neutral thermal properties, like plastic.
The adding of the cream didn't have much to do with the cream itself. It's more as something to reduce the temperature a little bit to get it into a zone where it can maintain... Maybe a little too hot otherwise.
I just left a comment but I'll repeat some of my findings here - compared to my zojirushi travel mug this does drop the temp much faster, and does actually seem to keep it around 150f. I find 150f to be on the upper end of "just right", and now that i've actually looked at numbers I'd say i prefer it around 140-145. So 125-135f does seem on the low end for how this has been designed, and it's not going to get there without some help. I'd probably put cold water into it for 3 min before filling it with coffee and i bet with some tweaking it would work as designed. joe might have had a pre-production unit because there's nothing about creamer anywhere in the documents i got. the only points it makes are - if you want it piping hot you'll have to pre-heat it (fairly standard there) and if you leave the lid off it'll cool down faster.
🤔 Hi Joe, it looks like they have put that heat pack gel material between the stainless steel layers... When you buy live fish from around the world they pack the boxes with these pads to retain the temperature... 🍳 Have you got a Hex pan review written in your diary ❓
I thought about those pads.... No mention of anything like that from Ninja, but that would be a secret I think... Unless I chop one in half to see inside. I actually finished recording the hexclad review last night and am editing now. That one will go online in about a week.
@JoesPhenomenal 🤔 Looking forward for your Hex review.... The " Always " pan people, I believe it's the " Always " have now got their own version of the Hex pan which is extremely versatile.
It depends on what you consider hot enough.... Also on how fast you drink it. The less that is left in the mug, the less there is to reflect energy and the more quickly it cools down.... But if it stays full, and you put coffee in there right out of the carafe, you should get around 4 or 5 hours.
I was waiting for a physicist to chime in, but I guess I'll have to do. Guys, this is a scam. Let me explain. A creamer is usually stored at fridge temperature. Adding creamer to a hot coffee is like adding ice water to hot water... It is going to cool down the hot watter and warm up the cold water until they reach equilibrium (basic high school physics here). Having a requirement to pour creamer proves that they mug doesn't do anything to quickly cool down your drink, that's what a cold additive does (spoiler alert, any cold liquid will work... Including cold coffee added to hot coffee). I am glad that the reviewer ultimately just compared the design, since there is nothing unique about this travel mug. Save yourselves some money and get the Contigo mugs.
I replied elsewhere but... I actually did not see this reference anywhere in the documentation I got with my mug (which arrived today). From my preliminary test against my zojirushi mug, it DOES drop the temp to the high end of sippable fairly quickly, and keep it there. I'm on the lookout for an inexpensive way to test/verify this although i may just have to get a wifi temp probe that has a 30-day return policy!
@@JoesPhenomenal oh it definitely does. After I empty both of them, the inside surface of the ninja stays quite warm for quite a while. It's also MUCH heavier than the zojirushi when it's empty, so I believe that they have a thicker inner wall that does what they say it does. Even when I leave both of them uncovered with hot liquid, the ninja stays warmer for longer
Did you already know how vacuum insulated containers work before watching this? I didn't really fully understand it myself until I did some research for this video. If you liked this, you might like my Ninja Dual Brew Pro Coffee Maker Review as well: ua-cam.com/video/AMAUC5pcWyw/v-deo.html
For those wondering like me. I Just tested the temp from boiling water 212 degrees. After 5 minutes the sip perfect brought it down to 168 f. This was with a full 16 oz and with the lid on and closed. For comparison, my stanley was still at 198.
I love my sip cup. It doesn't fit in my cup holder unless i take the sleeve off. My only problem is the silicon boot on the cap that keeps it from leaking came off and I think I swallowed it. But the best thing is ninja customer service is awesome. They sent me a whole new sipper free. I use mine everyday. I love it.
That's awesome to hear... Except for the bit about the seal! That's on the inside though, and not sure that it could even come through the hole if it fell off, but I haven't tried... In any case, you've probably already passed that thing if ya did. Haha.
I use a thermoflask with a straw. If you are driving it is so much easier than trying to tipple up a sipping type of cup.
Very good point, Wayno!
Mr. Phenomenal you are Phenomenal. LOL I didn't know Ninja made a Travel Mug.
Lol. thanks... They just released those... I didn't know about em, but a viewer mentioned them.
I have Contigo mugs and water bottles. I prefer Contigo, because of their lifetime warranty that they stand behind.
Those are excellent tumblers.
Looking forward to mine. 😍
LOL... I have no idea what you mean
Wow Joe! Thanks for doing this review! 😎👌I have an Ember mug that I use at my easy chair, and I have it set for my preferred temperature of 140°. My coffee maker produces coffee that starts out at 182°, but in the open top Ember mug it cools to a drinkable temperature pretty quickly. And then the Ember holds it there at my preferred 140° temperature. (I know, I'm pretty spoiled right ☺) Anyhow, it's a different story in my SS Thermos travel mug. It takes quite a while for my 180° coffee to cool to a drinkable temperature in that. I wonder if the Ninja would cool it quicker and then hold it there like it says. Or if it would require adding creamer for it to work. I know I could just add an ice cube. But then it would dilute my coffee and I like it black and strong. Thanks for the great review. 👍
I'd probably leave the sip thing open to let some of the heat out to bring it down a little. We have one of the ember coffee cups also. Those are cool.
@@JoesPhenomenal Yeah, I love my Ember. I wonder how a coffee cup would do with that "heatstore technology" stuff in the walls. I wonder If it would retain the heat in your cup. Ninja should make a coffee cup with that stuff in it.
I ordered a sip perfect. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for the great review.
@escheidl you got it! Thanks. On a coffee cup, the heatstore wouldn't work as well if it didn't have a lid on it. That's one of the things I like about those embers.
@@JoesPhenomenal Well I got my Sipperfect cup and have been doing some cyphering and testing. I’ve been really trying to wrap my head around their claims like “Control the heat for the perfect sip”, “Reaches perfect temp IN MINUTES”, and “Stays at perfect temp FOR HOURS”. So what sets this apart from all the other insulated mugs out there that simply retain heat for as long as possible? It’s the “Heatstore” technology, which I think may be some sort of wax filling in the space between the inner cup and outer shell. But Ninja has done a terrible job explaining how it works, as well as what it takes to make it work. The clue's are in the “Tips” section in the “Use and Care Guide”. There are 4 very important bullet points, but the one that kept running through my head was the 3rd bullet point which said, “Cool your travel mug down between refills. Rinse and fill with ice cold water, let sit 3 minutes, and rinse again.” Now that was really confusing because at the end of the guide it says “To enhance heat retention, preheat the travel mug by filling it with hot water”. Say what??? I was so confused. But after pondering over it for a bit, I figured the secrets to the success for it to be able to achieve the results befitting the grandiose claims of excessive heat reduction, and perfect temperature control and maintenance “for hours” revolved around the 4 bullet points on the tips page. So I conducted a test using my Thermos “Stainless King” 16 oz. travel mug. I tested them both the same to achieve “phenomenal” test results like my buddy Joe would. 😉 So here is what I did.
I filled both mugs with ice water and let them sit for 3 minutes. They were both at 33 deg. F
I poured 185 deg. water from my water dispenser into both of them.
The chilled mugs immediately cooled the water to:
Ninja 168 (chilled Heatstore already at work)
Thermos 178 (cold steel doing what cold steel does)
5 minutes later:
Ninja 152 (chilled Heatstore filling effectively drawing the heat out of the water)
Thermos 173 (Doing a good job retaining heat through effective insulation)
10 minutes later:
Ninja 149 (nearing perfect temp. I like my coffee at 140-145)
Thermos 172 (still way too hot to drink)
1:10 minutes later:
Ninja 143 (maintaining perfect temp)
Thermos 162 (still too hot)
2:10 minutes later:
Ninja 135 (still close to perfect temp)
Thermos 152 (starting to get tolerable)
So the key to making the Ninja perform as promised isn’t by putting "0.375 oz. of room temperature creamer" in it. You can do that with any mug. But rather, the secret is “cooling” the mug with ice cold water before filling with hot liquid and between refills. That is what causes the Heatstore stuff to quickly “draw” the heat out of the liquid and “store” it in the lining to radiate back to maintain the temperature longer. It’s pretty ingenious technology, something that the competition doesn't have, but the instruction team does a terrible job of explaining how it works and why it’s so important to chill the mug beforehand. If it wasn’t for the tips page and a real desire to understand the technology, I would have never figured it out. So this works very well for me because my Thermos mug kept my coffee so hot that I ended up having to wait way too long before I could enjoy it. I know I could have just put a few ice cubes in it (and I’ve done that before), but I just don’t like the way it dilutes my coffee. This Ninja cup has me enjoying my coffee within 10 minutes and my coffee seldom lasts more than about an hour because I’m enjoying it so much more. So this is a win for me.
Sorry for the long post but I just thought you’d like to know.
That's some darned good research ya did there. Thanks! That's gonna come in really handy for people watching this.
Nice. I just bought 5 Contigo travel mugs last month for $10 each to keep my coffee and tea hot through the winter. Ninja thinks of everything.
Yeah... The Ninjas are pretty nice, but a little pricey. I really love the lid design though... I think you're the first person to use one of the member emojis, also!
@@JoesPhenomenal I love the taco
@NessaRossini... It's cute, huh?
@@JoesPhenomenal too cute
I think there's a LOT more you could do to make this a more objective and fair review. Get some temp probes and log the temperature over time in several situations with several different travel mugs. Lid on, Lid off. For bonus points, lid open, lid closed.
I ordered the 12oz to give it a try, and my "dumb" temp probe that can't connect to anything is reporting that the mug actually takes the temp down to 150f fairly quickly and keeps it there. Is this too hot to be sippable? that's the real question... and it's very subjective. For me, 145f seems just right - and to be clear, I didn't know this until i sat here with a temp probe in a Sip Perfect full of hot water. I'm not really a fan of the lid style though.
The bigger issue for this is that this thing is HUGE for the capacity. I have a zojirushi travel mug that is skinnier and shorter and it has a 16oz capacity. I can't imagine how big the 16oz sip perfect is... this one, lid off, barely fits in my MyCafe MCU coffee maker. But my problem with the zojirushi is that i always have to leave the top off because it holds heat too well, and the bottom is so skinny that when i use it around the house i'm always afraid it'll topple. The lid also isn't water-tight. So despite the lid style, I think this one might be a keeper!
Yeah, that's a good point about the temp.
When did you paint your kitchen blue?
If It's been blue for a long time now. Maybe I'm high
When I started the channel, I repainted the kitchen from just basic colors to black walls and white cabinets. Then we bought a new place, and we had white on white with the grey accents. The place with the blue walls is my recording studio that I built in the back yard inside of a 12x16 Tuff Shed
I like mine. 🤩
I think ninja implies it would have a longer plateau than other insulated cups. Most just have a steady decline in temperature, whereas ninja implies a sharp(?) decrease to a steady drinking temperature for hours assisted by a 3rd layer. I think the Heatstore test should have been conducted for how long it maintains the "Perfect temperature" in that 125 to 135 range.
Also, the asterisk, IMO, doesn't imply that the Heatstore is activated by cream, but rather maintained without excessive cream. Less than 1oz! So, maybe not for people that LIKE THEIR CREAM with coffee. Appreciate the review @joesphenomenal, but the test left more questions than answers.
Also, opening the top to test loses the seal/vacuum and loses heat. Why not replicate how most would use it - pour the beverage out into another cup? One with neutral thermal properties, like plastic.
The adding of the cream didn't have much to do with the cream itself. It's more as something to reduce the temperature a little bit to get it into a zone where it can maintain... Maybe a little too hot otherwise.
I just left a comment but I'll repeat some of my findings here - compared to my zojirushi travel mug this does drop the temp much faster, and does actually seem to keep it around 150f. I find 150f to be on the upper end of "just right", and now that i've actually looked at numbers I'd say i prefer it around 140-145. So 125-135f does seem on the low end for how this has been designed, and it's not going to get there without some help. I'd probably put cold water into it for 3 min before filling it with coffee and i bet with some tweaking it would work as designed.
joe might have had a pre-production unit because there's nothing about creamer anywhere in the documents i got. the only points it makes are - if you want it piping hot you'll have to pre-heat it (fairly standard there) and if you leave the lid off it'll cool down faster.
@guitarchitectural The zojirushi stuff is really nice. I'm a fan.
🤔 Hi Joe, it looks like they have put that heat pack gel material between the stainless steel layers... When you buy live fish from around the world they pack the boxes with these pads to retain the temperature... 🍳 Have you got a Hex pan review written in your diary ❓
I thought about those pads.... No mention of anything like that from Ninja, but that would be a secret I think... Unless I chop one in half to see inside. I actually finished recording the hexclad review last night and am editing now. That one will go online in about a week.
@JoesPhenomenal 🤔 Looking forward for your Hex review.... The " Always " pan people, I believe it's the " Always " have now got their own version of the Hex pan which is extremely versatile.
"sippy portion"
😂😂😂
For How long does coffee lasts hot?🤔
It depends on what you consider hot enough.... Also on how fast you drink it. The less that is left in the mug, the less there is to reflect energy and the more quickly it cools down.... But if it stays full, and you put coffee in there right out of the carafe, you should get around 4 or 5 hours.
Will you also review the one they made for carbonated drink ?
I just saw that.... will have to get one of those in here.... maybe compare the 2
I was waiting for a physicist to chime in, but I guess I'll have to do.
Guys, this is a scam. Let me explain. A creamer is usually stored at fridge temperature. Adding creamer to a hot coffee is like adding ice water to hot water... It is going to cool down the hot watter and warm up the cold water until they reach equilibrium (basic high school physics here).
Having a requirement to pour creamer proves that they mug doesn't do anything to quickly cool down your drink, that's what a cold additive does (spoiler alert, any cold liquid will work... Including cold coffee added to hot coffee).
I am glad that the reviewer ultimately just compared the design, since there is nothing unique about this travel mug.
Save yourselves some money and get the Contigo mugs.
Yeah.... That whole part made me pretty uneasy.
I replied elsewhere but... I actually did not see this reference anywhere in the documentation I got with my mug (which arrived today). From my preliminary test against my zojirushi mug, it DOES drop the temp to the high end of sippable fairly quickly, and keep it there. I'm on the lookout for an inexpensive way to test/verify this although i may just have to get a wifi temp probe that has a 30-day return policy!
@guitarchitectural probably something to do with stored energy.
@@JoesPhenomenal oh it definitely does. After I empty both of them, the inside surface of the ninja stays quite warm for quite a while. It's also MUCH heavier than the zojirushi when it's empty, so I believe that they have a thicker inner wall that does what they say it does. Even when I leave both of them uncovered with hot liquid, the ninja stays warmer for longer