First, this is an "average" amps. Max amps is 250 Amps. The value you see is an average based off the pulse settings. You can hear one is a lot higher pitched than the other, which means that the pulse is likely staying in the higher stage of the pulse cycle longer, but that leads to less control and more burn through. As far as the soot, very similar in appearance from my perspective. Gas flow rate and gun angle can contribute to differences in soot. But also I believe the same series gun is being used on both machines so, it is likely human caused issues. Once you set the tension, constant retensioning of the wire isn't necessary. We have .9 and 1.2 drive rolls available. If you used the 1.0 (.040"), it would vary accuracy in amp output and accuracy of wire delivery and would cause slipping with .035" wire. This is not a valid comparison, using the wrong wire diameter drive roll. Your standoff is way too long in most of the shots, which will also cause extra soot around the weld. And from one of the last shots at maximum, the cleaning lines are uneven, which is a hallmark of a bad gun angle. The voltage offset values are NOT the same, so you cannot directly compare those values. Every manufacturer is different. And yes, more complex machines vary frequency as both voltage and amps change. We've tested both units side by side in our facilities and put them side by side, and understand how the HTP model functions. This is a disadvantage in some circumstances to only have one value change frequency as it throws off the "balance" of the pulse and it's smoothness. You could hear the Everlast pulse being much smoother and quieter with similar settings. HTP is a less advanced program from the math used to set the pulse. Off set on voltage is NOT actual volts on our unit, but a reference point as with other manufacturers.
So you put more emphasis and details on the roll tensioners then the wire feeders and making sure (both) were set up properly? As I said in your first video, you appear a bit biased toward the HTP. Your first few welds with the Everlast look as if you were attempting to cause failure with how far away you were holding it. Also, welding is the process of fusing two or more pieces of metal together in various arrangements, are we going to see that?
Yeah, you seemed to be long-arcing the Everlast quite a bit. And as the post below indicated, whether on TIG or MIG, with Pulse you get a reductive amount of amperage, i.e., you don't get 250 amps on Pulse, only on non-pulse, so it's good the Everlast has the extra amperage ability for those who may want to Pulse or Double-Pulse on 1/4" aluminum (and it's nice that the Everlast doesn't erroneously show 250 amps on Pulse, but rather the average of the Pulsing). And, you're not using the correct drive roll on the Everlast? You should really slow down and plan these videos more, learning the machines better. But I still want to see that 253DPi doing Double-Pulsing on aluminum, i.e., MIG like TIG! I mean, I know the Everlast 253DPi, since it has been out for more than a year, that it has adjustable Pulse Time-On and Frequency (Hz), which makes it super-customizable. How about this new HTP model?
Multi-part "series"? to demo a machine properly first, you have to know how to weld and know what you're doing properly or improperly and make corrections accordingly. Anyone can pull a mig gun trigger... Show us what you can do with a Tig gun and then we will take the time to watch your Multi-part series... and by the way, the HTP is by far the better machine, Period.
@@bra_todo I've had it for barely 3 months and decided to return it for a refund for which I had to pay their initial "free shipping" plus 2.7% credit card fees and the cost of shipping it back. Bought 2 HTP's so I've lost about $840 in charges. My complaint? They're a bit complicated to set, too heavy, specially with all cables attached to them permanently and only work on 220V and the Mig gun is only 10' feet long which is annoying and if you want to do Aluminum Mig, you have to buy a new set of Knurled rollers plus a different gun plus all the 'needed' accessories which cost a fortune on top of the cost of the welder ($2,200) which made no sense to me, thus my mistake of buying from usaweld.com cost me a pretty penny (a $840 penny!) so I switched to a TransSteel From Fronius and never been happier. Their standard 15' foot Mig/Mag gun welds all metals including aluminum with no special rollers (just got to change the gun Liner, $29) all the cables including the power cables are detachable, is synergic, easy to set up, doesn't blow even my 15A fuses and it only weights 33 Lbs. at a low price of $1,994 including shipping and no taxes. If you want to do tig, order it with the machine or it gets expensive later but it's all worth it. I love it!
@@Phoenix-One0922 Wow! I highly, highly, highly appreciate you sharing your experience! Can I send you some Austrian beer to thank you? I have not pulled the trigger yet and being based in Austria (home of the Fronius), I was leaning the Transsteel way for better local support, the simpler and robust interface and the dual input ports for the gas bottles... I looked but couldn't buy HTP here anyway, because the presumed manufacturer of HTP (an Italian company named Telwin) sells its own stuff here. True and consistent with Italian origin, the Telwins have fancier but more vulnerable interfaces IMHO... And a row of other small disadvantages. So, your difficult experience, which I am very sorry you went through, cements my decision in favor of the Fronius Transsteel 2200! And they do have good beer here.... And I once lived, worked and went to school in Phoenix Arizona... so I am partial to the name. Sincere greetings @Phoenix One!
@@Phoenix-One0922 I had the transsteel 2200 and wasn't crazy about the aluminum mig on thin stuff. Thick stuff that welder rocked. Besides aluminum that welder rocked for any kind of wire you put in it. And it ran great with fluxcore wire and 100 foot drop cord on 110v. I hated the tig on it and the stick was ok. I have the transtig 210 now and it's a beast
So I have to buy a 250 amp everlasting to get almost 200 amps?
What's with you long arcing with the Everlast? That will affect your results.
Well we know that Everlast has at least 17 employees.
First, this is an "average" amps. Max amps is 250 Amps. The value you see is an average based off the pulse settings. You can hear one is a lot higher pitched than the other, which means that the pulse is likely staying in the higher stage of the pulse cycle longer, but that leads to less control and more burn through. As far as the soot, very similar in appearance from my perspective. Gas flow rate and gun angle can contribute to differences in soot. But also I believe the same series gun is being used on both machines so, it is likely human caused issues. Once you set the tension, constant retensioning of the wire isn't necessary. We have .9 and 1.2 drive rolls available. If you used the 1.0 (.040"), it would vary accuracy in amp output and accuracy of wire delivery and would cause slipping with .035" wire. This is not a valid comparison, using the wrong wire diameter drive roll. Your standoff is way too long in most of the shots, which will also cause extra soot around the weld. And from one of the last shots at maximum, the cleaning lines are uneven, which is a hallmark of a bad gun angle. The voltage offset values are NOT the same, so you cannot directly compare those values. Every manufacturer is different. And yes, more complex machines vary frequency as both voltage and amps change. We've tested both units side by side in our facilities and put them side by side, and understand how the HTP model functions. This is a disadvantage in some circumstances to only have one value change frequency as it throws off the "balance" of the pulse and it's smoothness. You could hear the Everlast pulse being much smoother and quieter with similar settings. HTP is a less advanced program from the math used to set the pulse. Off set on voltage is NOT actual volts on our unit, but a reference point as with other manufacturers.
So you put more emphasis and details on the roll tensioners then the wire feeders and making sure (both) were set up properly?
As I said in your first video, you appear a bit biased toward the HTP.
Your first few welds with the Everlast look as if you were attempting to cause failure with how far away you were holding it.
Also, welding is the process of fusing two or more pieces of metal together in various arrangements, are we going to see that?
Watch the video, he fused a piece of wire to a piece of metal. That is welding.
Yeah, you seemed to be long-arcing the Everlast quite a bit. And as the post below indicated, whether on TIG or MIG, with Pulse you get a reductive amount of amperage, i.e., you don't get 250 amps on Pulse, only on non-pulse, so it's good the Everlast has the extra amperage ability for those who may want to Pulse or Double-Pulse on 1/4" aluminum (and it's nice that the Everlast doesn't erroneously show 250 amps on Pulse, but rather the average of the Pulsing). And, you're not using the correct drive roll on the Everlast? You should really slow down and plan these videos more, learning the machines better. But I still want to see that 253DPi doing Double-Pulsing on aluminum, i.e., MIG like TIG! I mean, I know the Everlast 253DPi, since it has been out for more than a year, that it has adjustable Pulse Time-On and Frequency (Hz), which makes it super-customizable. How about this new HTP model?
Everlast doesn't hold a candle to the Htp pro pulse! 🤣
Clamped 200 amp on Everlast and 300 on HTP.
Neverlast blows.
@@asherdie Like you?
I would be very careful taking advise from a Hobby welder
Multi-part "series"? to demo a machine properly first, you have to know how to weld and know what you're doing properly or improperly and make corrections accordingly. Anyone can pull a mig gun trigger... Show us what you can do with a Tig gun and then we will take the time to watch your Multi-part series... and by the way, the HTP is by far the better machine, Period.
Phoenix One - how long have you used your HTP and are you happy with it and support for it?
@@bra_todo I've had it for barely 3 months and decided to return it for a refund for which I had to pay their initial "free shipping" plus 2.7% credit card fees and the cost of shipping it back. Bought 2 HTP's so I've lost about $840 in charges. My complaint? They're a bit complicated to set, too heavy, specially with all cables attached to them permanently and only work on 220V and the Mig gun is only 10' feet long which is annoying and if you want to do Aluminum Mig, you have to buy a new set of Knurled rollers plus a different gun plus all the 'needed' accessories which cost a fortune on top of the cost of the welder ($2,200) which made no sense to me, thus my mistake of buying from usaweld.com cost me a pretty penny (a $840 penny!) so I switched to a TransSteel From Fronius and never been happier. Their standard 15' foot Mig/Mag gun welds all metals including aluminum with no special rollers (just got to change the gun Liner, $29) all the cables including the power cables are detachable, is synergic, easy to set up, doesn't blow even my 15A fuses and it only weights 33 Lbs. at a low price of $1,994 including shipping and no taxes. If you want to do tig, order it with the machine or it gets expensive later but it's all worth it. I love it!
@@Phoenix-One0922 Wow! I highly, highly, highly appreciate you sharing your experience! Can I send you some Austrian beer to thank you? I have not pulled the trigger yet and being based in Austria (home of the Fronius), I was leaning the Transsteel way for better local support, the simpler and robust interface and the dual input ports for the gas bottles... I looked but couldn't buy HTP here anyway, because the presumed manufacturer of HTP (an Italian company named Telwin) sells its own stuff here. True and consistent with Italian origin, the Telwins have fancier but more vulnerable interfaces IMHO... And a row of other small disadvantages. So, your difficult experience, which I am very sorry you went through, cements my decision in favor of the Fronius Transsteel 2200! And they do have good beer here.... And I once lived, worked and went to school in Phoenix Arizona... so I am partial to the name. Sincere greetings @Phoenix One!
@@Phoenix-One0922 I had the transsteel 2200 and wasn't crazy about the aluminum mig on thin stuff. Thick stuff that welder rocked. Besides aluminum that welder rocked for any kind of wire you put in it. And it ran great with fluxcore wire and 100 foot drop cord on 110v. I hated the tig on it and the stick was ok. I have the transtig 210 now and it's a beast
@@Phoenix-One0922 If that's the Fronius 220, it's closer to $3K now. They done followed the Miller model on pricing.