The problem with PRS no one tells you

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  • Опубліковано 28 бер 2024
  • Quality and PRS usually go together. But there are two major quality issues affecting PRS guitars that most do not know about out. This is something to be aware of before you buy a Paul Reed Smith guitar

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  • @NidhiBelani
    @NidhiBelani 2 місяці тому +41

    If they have a problem, the real problem is why do we have 50 of them??🤔😆

    • @AlanW
      @AlanW 2 місяці тому +2

      Well, if you only had 2, and one of them was faded, then 50% of your guitars are faded, but if you have 50, and one is faded and another is cloudy, then still only 4% of your guitars are less than perfect! It's simple math!

    • @derekwright5564
      @derekwright5564 Місяць тому +1

      I own zero bcuz prs guitars suck!!!!

    • @user-ff9zv4sd1n
      @user-ff9zv4sd1n Місяць тому +1

      Just curious. What do you play?​@derekwright5564

    • @derekwright5564
      @derekwright5564 Місяць тому

      @@user-ff9zv4sd1n i have fenders, squiers, gibsons, a jacksons,a bc rich and kit guitars plus a couple that I handmade.

    • @derekwright5564
      @derekwright5564 Місяць тому

      @@user-ff9zv4sd1n i have Fenders, Squiers, Gibsons, a Dean flying v, a Jackson v, a Bc rich, kit guitars, a couple that I handmade.

  • @ronwall
    @ronwall Місяць тому +3

    To counteract the cloud, I run a soft cloth soaked in white spirit over the milky spot and the paint becomes like new again. Be careful not to rub, just wipe it lightly once to avoid damaging the paintwork. In order to avoid UV damage to my Gibson and PRS, which unfortunately are not colored with lightfast stain, I always place them protected from sunlight and place a cotton cloth over the guitars and so far in over forty years, none of my guitars have lost their color. Great video, thanks!

  • @comment.highlighted
    @comment.highlighted 2 місяці тому +9

    My Purple 97 Custom 24 is clouding and fading. It definitely has pissed me off over the years 🤨❤

  • @wilgenesis4470
    @wilgenesis4470 2 місяці тому +6

    Thanks for knowing this. My PRS artist 2003 and Spruce 2006 hollowbody are also cloudy

  • @Obiekb
    @Obiekb 2 місяці тому +8

    Fix your jacket

  • @mentalswill
    @mentalswill 2 місяці тому +4

    Color bleaching is very common. Many printed items have a UV coating or lamination to help slow the process.

  • @patricksantana3337
    @patricksantana3337 2 місяці тому +4

    I was a supplier of the clearcoats and stains to PRS from the mid 80's up until 1995. PRS was using a BASF automotive clearcoat under the brand Glasurit 923-85 urethane clearcoat. The stains were made by PPG. After that, they switched to Dupont automotive clearcoats (not sold by me), which were also urethane based. I visited Paul around 2013-2014 and took a tour of the factory. While in the paint shop, I noticed that the products he was using were from Cardinal Chemical. I am not sure what the chemical composition was as I did not get a close enough look. All I can add to this was that in the period that I sold him and during the urethane days, I never heard of the problem with hazing. From my experience with lacquers, a poor choice of solvents will definitely cause hazing as solvents like acetone attract moisture. Whether this has anything to do with this specific issue, I am not sure.

    • @Sams911
      @Sams911 Місяць тому

      don't they use nitrocellulose finish?

    • @patricksantana3337
      @patricksantana3337 Місяць тому

      @@Sams911 From what I have heard, they currently use nitrocellulose in Maryland and urethane in Indonesia. U was only speaking about the use of urethane back in the 80's and 90's in Maryland.

    • @talkychris
      @talkychris 3 дні тому +1

      1985 - 2019 they used a polyester basecoat with an acrylic topcoat. I belive a couple of models were an exception one being the DGT which may have always had nitrocellulose.
      In 2019 they transitioned to nitrocellulose over acrylic. All USA models from 2020 onwards have a nitrocellulose topcoat. If you buy a 2019 model it could be either.
      But, I believe when they started using nitrocellulose they used a lacquer without elastcisers and consequently there were issues with the nitrocellulose getting lacquer checking very quickly.
      All import models still have a poly finish to this day. ​SE guitars do not have nitrocellulose.

  • @Napalm1334
    @Napalm1334 2 місяці тому +3

    This is becoming my favorite channel. I have a CE Semi-Hollow Faded Blue Smokeburst on the way 😂 🤦‍♂️ Great videos dude!

  • @debajitpalchoudhury1571
    @debajitpalchoudhury1571 2 місяці тому +3

    My SE had a nut issue and toggle switch issue. Those are easy fixes . But the neck, body, fretboard, fret everything is awesome.

  • @ahabshell3571
    @ahabshell3571 2 місяці тому

    I have a Carvin that has the clouding on the back of the neck. I've seen PRS with it as well. The owner of the guitar spoke to Paul Smith about it when having it signed, Paul mentioned something about temperature issues when applying the top coat.

  • @mortonwilson795
    @mortonwilson795 2 місяці тому +7

    I would add that the wiring in the SE series is a bit suspect. I own a nice Custom 24-08 and I tried a 245 in the shop a year or so ago. The Bridge pick-up on the 245 just didn't work - the switcher is my guess . . . and this was in the PRS flagship store! The pick-up switcher on my 24-08 is also erratic. A bit of CRC will most likely fix it BUT despite the build being absolutely fine the guys in Indonesia really need to get their act together when it comes to wiring.

    • @juanvaldez5422
      @juanvaldez5422 2 місяці тому +1

      The cool kids know lol that as soon as you get a SE , you immediately take out the pickups and wiring . A Very high quality replacement are the Lindy Fralin PAFs with the Emerson LP wiring harness. … Do that and you basically have a beast that is comparable to Any other guitar at almost Any price point .

    • @juanvaldez5422
      @juanvaldez5422 2 місяці тому +1

      That is what I did with my McCarty S2 .. granted it’s an American PRS.. but still .. amazing guitar that plays and sounds as good if not better than my Gibson r9 . I will be making videos if you want to check my channel out . Sub and comment and I will answer any questions I can that you leave in comments . Thanks and take care

  • @MADguitar
    @MADguitar 2 місяці тому

    In the market for my 1st PRS. Thx for sharing this info!

  • @BillLarkinmusic
    @BillLarkinmusic Місяць тому

    Didn't know this. Thanks for telling us. I own an SE Purple/Grey burst. (2017) hope it doesn't fade to fast
    i always keep in case if not playing..

  • @shawnmcginnis2508
    @shawnmcginnis2508 2 місяці тому +1

    My 2021 CE24 had a chipping issue. I've seen several others from the same time period with the problem. I sent mine back to PRS to fix it and they did. It was in the middle of the corona nonsense and it took a while to get back. They fixed the problem without question, and while it was there I asked for them to upgrade to the 24-08 switching, and they offered to knock off about 1/3 of the price of the upgrade simce the repair work.was taking so long.

  • @luskvideoproductions869
    @luskvideoproductions869 2 місяці тому

    Yeah, after he passed away, I spent a lot of time hunting Buddy Blaze guitars down, and I got a VC-II Lightning from a guy in Singapore...and I know the humidity played havoc on it, because a few bits of paint flaked out once it get into our dry climate.

  • @stringmaster_leo
    @stringmaster_leo 11 днів тому

    Bhayia ji.. after seeing yur prs video on se ce 24 satin... i too became a PRS guy.. keep doin the good work.. thanks from India

  • @BillySoundFarm
    @BillySoundFarm 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video, thanks!

  • @MusicianTracks
    @MusicianTracks 2 місяці тому

    One of mine is fading just like in your video. Still looks beautiful

  • @TurbulentJuice
    @TurbulentJuice 2 місяці тому

    I had a natural finish CE-22 standard from 96 so mahogany body maple neck. It pains me that I let it go. It was cloudy especially around the neck joint and smelled like an old hall (you know the smell inside the PRS case?) and I loved its character.

  • @brianbarrett5987
    @brianbarrett5987 29 днів тому

    Good video. Thanks. Fair, informative and accurate.

  • @Mars-mr3om
    @Mars-mr3om 2 місяці тому +5

    Gibsons Silverburst "greenburst" raises its hand.

    • @RByrne
      @RByrne 17 днів тому

      Yeah, but the thing with that one is it looked ugly when new anyway.

  • @517bjh
    @517bjh 2 місяці тому +1

    On nitro finishes you can use Jett Blush Remover spray. It works wonderfully. I build guitars and occasionally it is too humid when I spray the clear coat. When that happens, I use the blush remover and it disappears! Try it.

  • @tonys2189
    @tonys2189 2 місяці тому

    I've read that the SE line does not fade because of the stains being not natural. Is this true?
    I've got an SE Eriza verde (green) and it worries me a lot.

  • @AlanW
    @AlanW 2 місяці тому

    I think it must be certain blues, I have a 2006 Whale Blue PRS I bought new, which has always hung on the wall in my house, and the blue hasn't changed!
    Also the 2012 NOS ME 1 I have is "slate blue" which seems stable as well.
    Thanks for brining this to light (lol), hopefully more people will realize these are potential details they need to consider when buying older instruments!

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому +1

      Yes it struck me after making this video that I should have specified it wasn't all blues. My Blue crab Blue 513 has been fine, as well as my Private Stock Custom 24, which is technically Faded indigo but is really super dark blue green with gold like highlights

  • @kirkmckim2685
    @kirkmckim2685 2 місяці тому

    I love mine. One thing that’s a fact, through a combo amp vs a Gibson or fender, they are a a db or two lower in volume. It’s a very small detail. But I’ve noticed it. Most people can’t tell but some can.

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому

      You are right to say PRS pickups are lower output than one would expect. Very noticeable especially compared to cheap guitars . However compared to fender, I always find humbucker volumes higher than single coils

  • @Sams911
    @Sams911 Місяць тому +1

    I just bought a Core series "Special" which comes with a Nitrocellulose finish ... I'm in Las Vegas where it's very dry, my room humidity is usually 29% .. I haven't seen any issues with it so far, but its only been 2 weeks...

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  Місяць тому

      a drier climate won't cause this problem. But in any case, the new Nitro guitars do not seem to have this problem

  • @Sea_Jay
    @Sea_Jay 2 місяці тому

    So will keeping my blue PRS guitars in their case help preserve the color? I have an S2 anniversary McCarty that is absolutly perfect the way it is.

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому +1

      Yes it should. Not all blues are equally susceptible. Faded whale blue, purples, northern lights, glacier blue are the most susceptible. Blue Matteo, Blue Crab Blue less so

  • @MayorMcCheese2000
    @MayorMcCheese2000 2 місяці тому

    Great video!

  • @cesarbh87
    @cesarbh87 2 місяці тому

    is the organic dye also used on SE ones?
    I'm guessing the hazing won't happen on SE models because of the poly finish, instead of Nitro

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому +1

      actually nitro is a relatively recent development for prs core. they were poly till about 2019. that said, this hazing issue only affects core guitars from a certain period. it's not a problem for ses or current cores

  • @modernlondonmusic
    @modernlondonmusic 2 місяці тому +1

    Very interesting. Its a bit like the red in '58 and '59 bursts fading to brown or just disappearing. These days that's obviously very sought after. Maybe one day clouded PRS guitars will be too. (Probably not lol).

  • @Gene_Cali
    @Gene_Cali 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for this info. I don't own a PRS but do like them, and green is my favorite color. If it turned brown, or I had to hide it in the case, I'd be upset no doubt.

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому +1

      yeah. the only caveat is that it isn't all greens. I have two green PRSs that haven't faded one bit despite staying outside. A 513 in Blue Crab Blue (which looks green) which hasn't faded and a beautiful Custom 24 in a dark green blue colour with gold like highlights (I don't know the colour's name but here's the guitar ua-cam.com/video/0mHkHIV7JOQ/v-deo.html)

    • @Gene_Cali
      @Gene_Cali 2 місяці тому

      thanks @@ministryofguitar

  • @ozkarov
    @ozkarov Місяць тому

    I had this problem with an Emerald Green PRS CU24 and could not find anything online about it. Thanks for posting this. Could we see a video of your "Ghost PRS" ? Thanks!

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  Місяць тому

      Hey man it’s in this video PRS Finish Clouding/Hazing/Ghosting Explained
      ua-cam.com/video/dkSsnhEp9cc/v-deo.html

  • @ehiracheta
    @ehiracheta 2 місяці тому +1

    I've been able too avoid my blues from fading by only having the guitar around LED lighting only. I have a couple private stockss hanging outside the case always that havent faded over the years. While I have one CU24 artist with blue fade that has faded due to gigging and UV expose. Still I love my faded blue fade.

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому +1

      I believe the LED hypothesis as well, but I’m a little too fearful to take the chance. I have two sets of guitars, one that I don’t care what happens to their aesthetics (like my Cu24 7 string private stock in the video) and some that I do care, because they are pristine to begin with

    • @ehiracheta
      @ehiracheta 2 місяці тому

      @@ministryofguitar well I've had every light in my home swapped for LED. I've had my blue fade private stock out of it's case for 3 years and gigged it too. It hasn't faded. However I understand...nothing is really safer than the case.

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому

      @@ehiracheta yeah but I’m glad to see you get good use out of your private stock

  • @22ndfret
    @22ndfret 26 днів тому

    About time someone discussed the clouding issue that prs factory ignores won’t own up to and live had 20:prs cores and 8 have clouded. And I live in Maryland

  • @roscoepcoltrane23
    @roscoepcoltrane23 2 місяці тому

    I love my PRS. Plays great sounds great and stays in tune. That’s a great combo.

  • @zz-.-
    @zz-.- 2 місяці тому

    The faded relics are going to be worth more in the future if you care about that sort of stuff. Not the cloudy so much, but the blue fade, definitely. Rarer the better.

  • @maxmolina6519
    @maxmolina6519 2 місяці тому

    I knew instantly before you said what the issues were, that it would be related to finish issues. Fading is a huge issue with PRS especially Northern Lights. Its a private stock only finish which means to get it you must pay around $10k brand new, for the opportunity to spec with a finish that will not look the same later... I will say some finishes fade and look really good.
    I have a 98~ PRS CE that was trans purple which had completely faded, its almost a pink salmon color that looks so good imo. So in some cases it works. I will say Ive heard that PRS understands this issue and has refinished guitars with clouding for free! not sure about blue finish issues but I have email PRS PTC and they did say they would refinish my PRS (i wanted to change the color but change my mind) but it would not be free (i was chaning the color from original)

  • @Chillnote
    @Chillnote 2 місяці тому

    Have you ever tried a Vigier and what do you think about their quality?

  • @user-jt1ug2eu4w
    @user-jt1ug2eu4w 2 місяці тому

    You actually have a point, i do have a hazy spot but i never actually minded that, I still enjoy my PRS nevertheless, fantastic guitars

  • @elvenmonster
    @elvenmonster 2 місяці тому

    Have you had he opportunity to try out Eastman guitars? Specifically their thinline series ending in Mx and the ones with the violin varnish finish (t59, t64)

    • @ehsanhaq155
      @ehsanhaq155 2 місяці тому

      They're super high end. Some would argue better than many USA made premium guitars even.

    • @Tiago_007
      @Tiago_007 2 місяці тому

      Eastman guitars are made in the USA. I own the Juliet model that came out last year. It’s an amazing guitar.

    • @elvenmonster
      @elvenmonster 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Tiago_007 They’re handcrafted in china, except for some models (D’Ambrosio)

    • @himester666
      @himester666 13 днів тому

      @@Tiago_007the only US made ones are a limited run Otto did for the last namm
      After guitars are made in China they do get setup and inspected in Pomona though. The Quality Control happens in the US.

  • @johnnysguitarcorner5510
    @johnnysguitarcorner5510 2 місяці тому

    Great video man, I was always wondering about PRS and how their colours would develop over time and why. I recently bought an emerald green custom 22 (2021), blue matteo custom 24 (2007), purple Iris custom 24 (2023). The old blue matteo is still as new, the emerald green looks like mash/leprechaun tooth green now and the purple Iris looks like salmon pink right now😂.

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому +1

      You have summed up how they fade very well

    • @johnnysguitarcorner5510
      @johnnysguitarcorner5510 2 місяці тому

      @@ministryofguitar well let me rephrase the salmon pink, its now more like Bonnie Pink🤣 I am now using that guitar for the weird Sevendust tuning for "Decay" drop B flat but with top 2 strings regular B flat tuning

  • @yellowdog2181
    @yellowdog2181 2 місяці тому

    The clouding could be the use of polyurethane or spraying lacquer in humid conditions

  • @davinkoski8106
    @davinkoski8106 Місяць тому

    It's marketed as "Cataract Finish" exclusively priced option in the library catalog line...

  • @ekuryluk
    @ekuryluk 2 місяці тому +7

    Clouding and fading, it’s just how PRS guitars “relic”

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому

      can i imagine the future generations having a great time with this

    • @Returnality
      @Returnality 2 місяці тому

      And it looks like shit

  • @VicenteMMOSilva
    @VicenteMMOSilva 2 місяці тому

    Does this blue color change affect a darker color like their whale blue?

  • @TSoneonetwo
    @TSoneonetwo 2 місяці тому

    Hmmmm sounds to me that the issue would be a lack of proper sealing of the wood. Especially considering that the guitars you show are solid body. Which begs the questions how is the moisture getting under the top coat. Or could it be insufficient drying, and over time the moisture is coming up out of the wood, and interacting with the top coat? However a good sealer, applied over the entire body (neck, pickup, and control cavities included) would trap the moisture in.

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому

      Yeah I know nothing about finishing guitars. Hopefully someone who works in PRS can illuminate the matter some day

    • @RRBish
      @RRBish 2 місяці тому

      And if you watch the recent 2+ hour PRS tour in Anderton’s channel, they are VERY particular about the percentage of humidity in the wood that goes into their guitars. You’re making me nervous cos I just ordered an S2 24-08 in lake blue. And it’s not like they’re cheap. And you don’t even get a real case with a $2500 guitar!😮

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому

      @@RRBish if I can make you feel slightly better. Two things, 1) I haven't seen any clouding post 2015 2) Different blues have differing levels of fade. I haven't heard of lake blue fading much if at allo

  • @redcomn
    @redcomn 2 місяці тому

    V2 finish at where the paint meet the fingerboard is annoying too.
    It’s easy to chipped worst part is it is where you’ll feel it the most.
    Aside from that I like how the V2 finish at the rest of the guitar. Bear in mind tho it is really easy to dent and chipped to.
    I kinda like how it relic with me through 13 years owning em.

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому

      Yes I didn't get into V12 in the video. I think the general point is PRS innovate with finish and that sometimes has unintended consequences

    • @redcomn
      @redcomn 2 місяці тому

      @@ministryofguitar I agree. Tho now i’m at the end game of my guitar buying journey. Took years too realized all i wanted was an offset guitar with tele pickup 😅

    • @johnbach2380
      @johnbach2380 2 місяці тому

      They discontinued the v12 because of this.

  • @ggreloaded5269
    @ggreloaded5269 2 місяці тому +1

    You have more PRS guitars than all the guitar shops in my city put together, been looking to try a DGT for the last 2 months and no one has it in stock

    • @ScottsGuitar
      @ScottsGuitar 2 місяці тому

      😂

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому +2

      My city as well. For the Private Stocks and cores. I may need to consult a shrink 😂

  • @anthonyg9350
    @anthonyg9350 2 місяці тому

    WAY too timely. I'm trading in my PRS McCarty Eriza Verde for the solid black DW CE hardtail. I'm assuming I won't have to deal with any finish clouding and fading with solid black right?

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому +3

      Clouding has been non existent post 2015ish. And yes solid black won't fade

    • @intuneorange
      @intuneorange 2 місяці тому

      Black dont crack​@@ministryofguitar

  • @xF1revolution
    @xF1revolution 2 місяці тому

    You should get that C24 professionally refinished honestly.

  • @user-ff9zv4sd1n
    @user-ff9zv4sd1n Місяць тому

    I have 5 PRS ('98 McCarty, 2000 McCarty, a new Myles Kennedy, a Santana SE and a 245 SE). Also have multiple Gibson Les Paul's, Fender Strats and Teles along with a couple Rickenbackers and a Gretsch. Hands down, the US PRS's are superior to all the rest, yet all the others have their place somewhere, sometime in the tonal pallet in particular recordings. On a scale of 1 to ten, descending from 1, I would put the finish the least important factor

  • @johnfleming1237
    @johnfleming1237 Місяць тому +2

    What happened to your collar dude?

    • @adamwatson6916
      @adamwatson6916 18 годин тому

      I have never understood the blazer and T-shirt look .
      If the T-shirt is a plain T and Its black dark blue or white it looks somewhat passable but it's just a weird look in general.

  • @Kabayoth
    @Kabayoth 2 місяці тому

    If there's a PRS finish I can't stand, it's denim. Something about the texture just doesn't work for me. You're telling me this fades to a jade green? Suddenly I'm intrigued!
    Clouding is a problem I have with my Washburn 12-string. Didn't appear until I moved to Colorado. Oddly enough, it's like the guitar is growing armor. As you say, it sounds no different, so I'm inclined to count it as part of the character of my beloved instrument.

  • @darthdurkelthewise320
    @darthdurkelthewise320 2 місяці тому

    I’ve owned many PRS and Gibbons. I still love my 24 year old LP but I don’t reach for it as much.
    PRS & Gibsons can be awfully pretty and pretty flawed too…I now buy Ltds which are generally 9/10 - 10/10 for a third of the price of either U.S. made PRS or standard Gibson.
    They don’t smell as good but then again I’m not a headstock sniffer anymore.

  • @alastair6356
    @alastair6356 2 місяці тому

    These guitars sound great, look great, guitars age it's no big deal. If it bugs you keep it out of the Sunlight.

  • @guitarprepnplus1
    @guitarprepnplus1 2 місяці тому

    Hazing is usually a humidity issue when finish is applied..

  • @nintendad1166
    @nintendad1166 Місяць тому

    I was introduced to the brand through Mikael Akerfeldt (Opeth).

  • @markbaum9615
    @markbaum9615 2 місяці тому

    Similar issue with floor finishes...
    I always talk homeowners into using oil based finishes....water based floor finish have that muted, clouded appearance as well...im thinking Paul let some slick supplier talk him into the "advantages " of water based finishes i.e. environmental and worker safety ...now the results after the test of time ....

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому +1

      This water vs oil based makes a lot of sense to me actually

  • @bobbyjohnston5451
    @bobbyjohnston5451 2 місяці тому +1

    I wonder why blue Matteo never fades. I’ve never seen one example

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому

      I agree. It’s something I’ve noticed as well

  • @joethompson2910
    @joethompson2910 2 місяці тому

    Shouldnt be a problem with my dgt se gold top...
    But, I have a custom 24 where its an issue

  • @David-ub4rq
    @David-ub4rq 2 місяці тому

    You can send them to PRS for refinishing.

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому

      a bit inconvenient when you live in Asia :)

    • @David-ub4rq
      @David-ub4rq 2 місяці тому

      @ministryofguitar I saw a thing where a guy sent his back to PRS Europe and it came back looking new so they dont necessarily have to go to America. If its just a case of posting it I'd say its worth doing

    • @David-ub4rq
      @David-ub4rq 2 місяці тому

      Contact PRS tech centre.
      It would be a good series on your channel getting one refinished

  • @jltrem
    @jltrem 2 місяці тому +3

    Dishonest sellers in the guitar market?? Heavens! That couldn't possibly be true...could it??

  • @parthmehra8630
    @parthmehra8630 12 днів тому

    so you're telling me if I buy a blue pro, I get two guitars in one? that's a steal.

  • @93greenstrat
    @93greenstrat 2 місяці тому

    You have how many PRS's? Sir; you have a problem, but do not worry. For we are all here to help!😊

  • @giovannibonapace4250
    @giovannibonapace4250 2 місяці тому

    I think the clouding is a big deal especially if u spend a lot of dollar for private stock ...
    I'm happy for u about having 50 guitars ... i'm not happy for the guitars sitting there not being played ... i have gas fair play but i don't own 50 instruments for sure ... realistically speaking how many instruments we really play ?? ... the problem with the net is there are people who say they do this or own that but is it an ego thing?? How about the poor chap who can barely put together some cash to get an se ? I find it a bit disrespectful towards people who'll never put their hands on a 10 k private stock jeee

  • @thecolorhero1078
    @thecolorhero1078 2 місяці тому

    OH man. Thankz - aLso 50! :)

  • @allenmitchell09
    @allenmitchell09 2 місяці тому

    To me the leader right now in finishes is Keisel. This is the first I’ve heard of this PRS problem though. I don’t own either brand. Mainly because both owners come across as dicks to me, Jeff Keisel and Paul R Smith. And, I’d rather support other builders.

  • @alif499
    @alif499 2 місяці тому +1

    It’s not a bug. It’s a feature.

  • @davedavid7061
    @davedavid7061 2 місяці тому +2

    Why is Chevy Chase in your thumbnail?

  • @woody2669
    @woody2669 2 місяці тому +1

    Fender calls it "relic ready"😂

  • @hawkcrossfamily
    @hawkcrossfamily 2 місяці тому

    That's disappointing to hear and I have never heard about this. To me, the key thing about a PRS is the stunning looks. Specifically, the paint and tops. If it fades, to me, I'd be upset. Especially if I paid 10 top prices for it. it's definitely a real problem. The clouding, it's an issue for only items of a certain age. And as long as discounted, would make good affordable player grade guitars. For a poor person looking for a quality guitar, this could be a good option (as long as you don't care about the looks).

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому +1

      I think you hit the nail on the head. Clouded PRSs are great deals for players who want amazing guitars. And yes, if one was to buy one for the looks, it would be super disappointing

  • @jaketurner3890
    @jaketurner3890 2 місяці тому

    11:12 that's my McCarty!

  • @OzricTentaclesRule
    @OzricTentaclesRule 2 місяці тому

    probably didnt use enough "retarder"... an additive to slow the dry time down long enough so the moisture can escape...

  • @Lomni
    @Lomni 2 місяці тому

    I'll never buy a prs, but this is a very interesting video nonetheless

  • @JamesWalshBristolKids
    @JamesWalshBristolKids 2 місяці тому

    👌💫I'm more a fan of Godin Guitars made in Canada, so far I am not liking PRS as much as I like the Godin Summit CT and Gibson Les Paul, but I love Paul Reed Smith's sense of humour... You want great value ? Check out the All In One Guitars made in La Cañada/Flintridge, California.

  • @zemlidrakona2915
    @zemlidrakona2915 2 місяці тому +3

    I personally don't care about looks that much, at least up to a point. I used to play violin. I have played several violins, some a couple hundred used old. One in particular ( that got stolen 😞 ) sounded fantastic, yet it had far more scars than newer violins. I really didn't care. It's an instrument not a painting.
    PRS may make great guitars but I wouldn't buy one. I kind of dislike the PRS bull shit factor. For instance he insists tone wood makes a difference on solid body electrics. Yet I've never seen that proven and there are videos that disprove it pretty convincingly (here's maybe the best one: ua-cam.com/video/n02tImce3AE/v-deo.html ) . Just admit your building a status symbol and leave it at that. That's how Gibson is still in business.
    Your best video was the one you said it's not about music. That's exactly right, at least in the majority of cases.

    • @Henriktranoy
      @Henriktranoy 2 місяці тому

      Well, he does not say anything about _how much_ it affects. He rightfully points out the the sound of the guitar is the sum of its parts. For instance, if you have rubber nut, the string vibration will be negatively impacted. He is not going to deny that the microphone does the most, and that swapping the microphones will have a huge impact on the sound. (Not to mention the speaker the guitar is plugged into.) But his point is just that the microphones can only pick up what is already there. Which is the acoustic vibration of the strings. The wood impacts the acoustic sound, the vibrations you feel towards your chest, and the sound you hear in the room, and as the player. Whether this is a meaningful difference to you, I leave for you to decide. If you only care about what the recorded sound is, and not the playing experience, then put all your money into the recording equipment and speakers.
      What PRS prides himself on, is to fine-tune all of the different 30-ish factors that accumulates to a great guitar. And sure, he does have the air of an "used cars-salesman" at times, but he does seem to believe what he preach, and it is hard to deny his results.

    • @zemlidrakona2915
      @zemlidrakona2915 2 місяці тому

      @@Henriktranoy "Which is the acoustic vibration of the strings." A solid body electric doesn't pickup acoustic vibration. I specifically wrote "solid body electric" for that reason. Nobody is arguing that wood, shape etc, affects the sound of an acoustic guitar the same as it does a violin.

    • @Henriktranoy
      @Henriktranoy 2 місяці тому

      @@zemlidrakona2915 . No worries! I was also talking about a solid-body electric guitar!
      Now then, go and strum an electric guitar, and tell me that the body doesn't vibrate. Now go and strum a second guitar, and tell me that it doesn't sound differently.
      Now plug both these guitars into the same amp, and they will sound fairly similar, depending on settings.
      My claim is something along these lines, Amp, 95-ish% of the sound, guitar ~5%.
      Paul talks about 30 factors in the guitar that composes the sound. so 5%/(30 components) ==> acoustics is about 0.2% of the sound you get out.
      Of course, if you skip the amp, and only focus on the guitar, it will be higher. The wood isn't the end all, be all (far from it). But it really does impact what you as the player hear and feel. Even if it doesn't come across on a recording (apparat from indirectly, if it affects how you play it)

    • @zemlidrakona2915
      @zemlidrakona2915 2 місяці тому

      @@Henriktranoy Of course solid bodies sound different unplugged. I have one that is louder than my arch-top. Oddly enough it's a cheap strat style copy made of ply-wood. However the contribution of the wood doesn't translate into anything, or at least nothing perceptible when plugged in. I've seen enough tests to convince me of that. Now if someone wants to actually do tests that prove otherwise, with at least the controls that Jim Lill used, I'll be happy to reconsider. But I can't help noticing all the "proof" is anecdotal.

    • @Henriktranoy
      @Henriktranoy 2 місяці тому

      @@zemlidrakona2915 I think we are in reasonable agreements about a plugged in guitar.
      I'd hasten to add that I don't think "louder" equals "better", as similarly, my cheapest electric is the loudest. However, it sustains like crap, the tonal quality is bad. (It somehow sound like it falls out of tune as it sustains, and I don't understand how that is possible)
      Good tests are of course, difficult to come buy. It requires time, energy and money.
      One interesting "test" is was done by Kyle Bull, watch?v=2_XO6Gr1Abk&ab_channel=KyleBull Where he is testing two "identical" guitars where one has a maple cap and the other does not. Otherwise "the same". He tries on a few different people playing, and they are mostly in agreement of the sound qualities.
      Of course. Not exactly the same guitar, different strings (same set, but), same kind of microphones, but how big are the natural variance among those?
      I would have like to see this test done with 3 guitars, where two had maple top, and seen if there was any difference between them as well.
      Still would not be a perfect test, and even here. the two guitars are so close, that I would not let the maple caps "sound quality" be a factor in which one of those I'd like.

  • @snflip
    @snflip 2 місяці тому

    Crappy Pickups ... The price. And that neck joint.

  • @ScottsGuitar
    @ScottsGuitar 2 місяці тому

    No wonder Misha Mansoors Modern Eagle looked so yellow.

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому +1

      Yup and he ( correctly) mentioned it faded as well

    • @ScottsGuitar
      @ScottsGuitar 2 місяці тому

      @@ministryofguitar of all the faded PRS guitars that one hurts the most, as I want to acquire one eventually and I don’t expect ill ever get a discount just because it’s yellow now. Seeing that ME brand new in 2004 has ruined me 😂, really was the prettiest color I’d ever seen on a guitar at the time. Might still be my overall favorite next to the Watermelon on my ES 355. That thing changes into 3 diff colors depending on the light.

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah a non faded Blue Jeans Modern Eagle 1 is a mythical creature. It doesn't exist anymore. I have an immaculate time capsule Modern Eagle 1 (1 owner, who barely touched it) in Charcoal and even that has yellowed a little. Just something to do with the new finish method they started with the Modern Eagle 1

  • @yeauld
    @yeauld 2 місяці тому +1

    So what you are basically trying to say is that PRS guitars are like mutant guitars !!! You buy it, and then the guitar mutates into a different beast !!!

  • @oboyy
    @oboyy 2 місяці тому +4

    PRS having better quality or qc than the other companies is some bs myth being thrown around

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому +8

      I disagree. PRSs are in a whole different league when it comes to QC, fit and finish and functionality. Maybe musicman comes closest .The two very specific finish issues I am mentioning here do not mean that otherwise the product isn’t great

    • @oboyy
      @oboyy 2 місяці тому

      It’s ok to disagree. Do you view musicmans qc as better or worse than prs?

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому +1

      Similar. Generally immaculate in terms of playability and fit and finish. That said, Ironically I have had to send my musicman majesty 7 purple nebula back to the factory for a very similar issue to the prs clouding. My local dealer told me its very common. A video is upcoming on this topic

    • @craigwillms61
      @craigwillms61 2 місяці тому

      Gibson is the whipping boy for this category. I bought a new LP Classic in 08, during the height of the complaining about Gibson. The LP was flawless, and has held up well. My PRS is great, no issue with QC, but I don't love it like I do the Gibson. I hear that a lot too.

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому

      @@craigwillms61 I kind of agree. Gibson gets a bit too much hate though sometimes they do do things that raise eyebrows. I have had great Gibsons also, but they are sometimes inconsistent in quality (the normal USA ones). The Custom Shops have usually been immaculate QC wise

  • @poisedforduty
    @poisedforduty 2 місяці тому +1

    All Guitars fade over time........some quicker than others 😉

  • @ronaldgoebel2174
    @ronaldgoebel2174 Місяць тому

    I am a guitar tech and have been doing so for over 45 yrs. PRS guitars in my humble opinion are pure garbage. Everything is super cheap on them from wood to hardware. Wiring is, well I have no idea why the wire them the away they do. Makes absolutely no sense when it comes to wiring of guitars. Hate working on them and if I never see another one would suit me just fine. Same goes for rickenbacker! Horrible guitars. Just my 2 cents.

  • @EM-km8em
    @EM-km8em 2 місяці тому

    No need to own 50 + guitars
    Theres only 2 that made History and are the only Ones heard in Music History legends.
    1. Fender Stratocaster for cleans.
    2. Les Paul for Dirty riffs.
    Thats all you need. Everything else is irrelevant or sits in the middle.
    Leo Perfected the Cleans in guitars.
    Les Paul perfected the dirty warms in guitars.
    Even better these days you find a used Fender for $300
    And a Gibson for $500
    Game over.
    No need for rarities, exotics, vintage, remakes, limited editions, etc.

  • @JackR617
    @JackR617 2 місяці тому

    That’s a serious quality issue. I’m not a fan of Paul he comes across as arrogant and that he thinks his product is perfect. It obviously has issues. As much as he charges he should fix the issue.

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому

      I agree. The clouding is fixed though. The fading, well they refinish it for free for first owners

  • @Dami1rush
    @Dami1rush Місяць тому

    I think it is just the accent😂😂😂

  • @eugenevedensky6071
    @eugenevedensky6071 2 місяці тому +1

    What level of dentist are you?
    Jk: just jealous.

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому +1

      The Dentist who sells razors. No, I worked in the corporate world for 15 years and got to Senior Management, heading marketing for some iconic brands. I'm nothing financially compared to the Wall Street crowd, but I am indeed very fortunate to have some means

  • @SmollHouseLiving
    @SmollHouseLiving 2 місяці тому

    #firstworldproblems

  • @breekolean2758
    @breekolean2758 2 місяці тому

    I meet Paul years ago when he was making guitars in his home. Very nice man if you write him he will listen

  • @Daddysboys75
    @Daddysboys75 2 місяці тому +5

    I think prs are ugly to be honest.
    I had a prs Santana SE it was okay, but I couldn't live with it every day.
    I bought an American standard Stratocaster brand new in 2012 and we lived happily ever after.
    It is the only guitar I own.

    • @ScottsGuitar
      @ScottsGuitar 2 місяці тому +1

      I played gigs for years with only 1 American strat owned. It does the job! 👍

  • @Redrum046
    @Redrum046 2 місяці тому

    First🎉

  • @adilsonobelard9690
    @adilsonobelard9690 2 місяці тому

    Stop buying guitar and go to the Ortodontist to fix your tooth 🦷 😅😅😅

  • @brbadge
    @brbadge 2 місяці тому

    Oh horseshit.

  • @Jkopala1954
    @Jkopala1954 2 місяці тому

    Sorry I can't understand you due to your accent and how fast you speak

    • @poisedforduty
      @poisedforduty 2 місяці тому +4

      I understood him just fine

    • @retepmo6534
      @retepmo6534 2 місяці тому +1

      Use the closed caption (cc).

    • @poisedforduty
      @poisedforduty 2 місяці тому

      @@retepmo6534 Or better yet use the slomo feature to 75%

    • @ramencurry6672
      @ramencurry6672 2 місяці тому +3

      His accent is actually accurate

    • @markbaum9615
      @markbaum9615 2 місяці тому

      No problem this way...better vocabulary than the average American as well

  • @podfuk
    @podfuk 2 місяці тому

    You could try isoprophyl alcohol, on the cloudy finish spots. Guitar repairers use it often after neck resets, when use of steam is often necessary. It work better on more porous finishes like is nitro laquer or shelac, but maybe you will be lucky ;) My only problem with my 96 Cu22 is tinny bubles in finish lifting here and there, but its not a big deal.

  • @Viper_75th_RR
    @Viper_75th_RR 2 місяці тому

    I like PRS guitars, but I hate their fanboys. See Music Is Win

    • @ministryofguitar
      @ministryofguitar  2 місяці тому +4

      I think one should try and have a fair balanced view as far as possible. To be clear, I think I would possibly classify as a PRS fan boy based on the number of them I own, but at the same time, I'm not blind to their faults