Caran d'Ache Neocolor II Pastels (Crayons) 84 Set Review! Swatching and Large Artwork
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2022
- Today I will be reviewing the largest current set of Caran D'Ache Neocolor II wax pastels - the 84 tin set. These are the water soluble crayons (Neocolor I are the water resistant ones).
Here's a PDF chart of all the colours with their lightfast ratings, from Caran D'Ache's website:
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Numerical order by Caran d'Ache makes sense, but not in a linear way, it makes sense on a color wheel. Colours ending with 0 are 24 pure colours, from 010 to 240, then those ending with 1 are the pure colours mixed with white, ending with 9 are the pure colours mixed with black, and those with 2 and 8 at the end are mixed with different shades of grey. Those above 249 are said to be created by mixing two of the colours from the group below 249 (as far as shades go, not pigments).
Thank you for the info! I can see them on a colour wheel...but still, they had to be moved for a more pleasing linear look. 😁
It's always a good day when there is a new video on your channel! 😊 ❤ 🌸
Aww thank you!
I love my Neocolor IIs. Your kingfisher came out really nice. I usually finish the details by using them like paint, either from shavings I’ve put into a palette, or just picking up directly from the crayons. They are ridiculously fun to use, and I was highly amused by your frantic dislike of having the colors out of order. I can commiserate. Their basic sets (i have the 30) are well selected I think. Even the 15 set will let you paint just about anything.
I must have them in order! 😂 You're right about the 15 set; it's a great combo of colours. I found the 10 to be just a bit too limited by comparison.
Loved the editing in of the laughing. 😂 I really enjoyed using my Neocolor IIs - they are quite the happy surprise when you add water to them. I'll be comparing them to my other water-soluble crayons/pastels next week or the week after that. I'm really looking forward to it! I loved watching the watercolor go down in the background of your painting and when you added the water to the pastels. So much fun!
Haha thank you! I just couldn't get those swatches right. 😂 I'll look forward to seeing them pitted up against some other products. Are you including the Marabu crayons? I am on the fence as to whether I want/need a set of those too, lol.
I really want to see the comparison, can't wait. Love your videos 😀
I guessed it was a Kingfisher, one of my favorite little birds. You did a god job on the little guy!
Thank you, I love kingfishers too! Kookaburras are also kingfishers and they are such gorgeous birds. 💜
The final artwork is so beautiful! I loved watching you add the white to the feathers!
Thank you - I wasn't sure if white would go on because of how much wax there was, but it worked well enough! 😊
Wow! The artwork you did is gorgeous!!!! I loved watching, Becky!
Thank you 😊💖
The picture you did is really beautiful. I have about 25 Neocolor II bought throughout the years and singly. They are great. Have a nice weekend, see you later.
Thank you, I hope you have a great weekend too!
I always enjoy seeing the nature you paint from another place in the world. Lovely.
Thank you! I am not sure where this photo was taken, but we have plenty of kingfishers in Australia, including the larger kookaburras 😊
💜💜💜tfs💜💜💜 I am always just in awe as I watch you! Thank you
Thank you 😊💖
Wow, well done. Looks amazing.
Thank you 😊
Great review! I like how you put them in order, nice to see the varying shades, they are gorgeous. All of the oranges and browns remind me of a fall landscape. I like your kingfisher and rose, so fun to use these with watercolors. I think I will have to try a few of these in my favorite colors. Thanks so much!
Thank you, I think the set has a really lovely palette of colours with plenty both of warms and cools. I hope you enjoy yours and make some fun art with them 😊
Oh my gosh that kingfisher is gorgeous! I JUST bought a set of the neocolor II's and I haven't used them yet. This has me so so excited! 😍🤩
Thank you! Oh how exciting, I hope you love using them. 😆💜
Thanks for this! Based on this review I went ahead and bought the 84 wax pastel set ! Thanks for this thorough review and art work. I created my colour chart using the order they had on the little brochure that comes inside the box, where they are all properly arranged. They now look som preeeety in their box! Thanks again!
I'm glad my review was helpful, and I hope you enjoy using your lovely new set! 😊❤️
That bird is beautiful ❤️
And those neoncolors are awesome, I have a small tin and i love them :)
Thank you, they certainly are amazing quality!
I love that you include a painting with your swatching... loved your kingfisher!
Thank you so much 😀
It looks wonderful! You did a great job!
Thank you ❣️
This video was done so well, I can only imagine how long this took!! The neocolors are soooo tempting and might go on my birthday or Christmas wishlist eventually. They just seem like so much fun to play with, like crayons but for adults! I’ve had those moments with swatch charts where I make one glaring mistake or misplacement but then I figure that just gives it character😂 it always seems to happen too with every swatch chart I make. Your new chart is very aesthetically pleasing though, and much better than the first one you showed! I loved your artwork so much. The neocolors are so opaque and allow for a lot of vibrancy it seems like. The ability to add the white highlights after the fact really helps the kingfisher pop out against that background. I always need to do multiple layers on hot pressed paper too because they come out soo patchy ahhh!! That final layer really helped. I think this is one of my favorite recent artworks you’ve done! I hope it lifted your spirits a bit too!
Thank you, I am feeling back to being (mostly) cheerful, it was just a passing slump, which usually happens for me at the start of winter. The Neocolor II crayons are so lovely to use and the intensity really builds up. I am impressed with how much white I was able to get, considering I had loads of wax already on the page. High quality! ❤️
I love the neocolours! Can’t wait to get the extra ones I’m missing.
I've never had these before but I do have a Neocolor 1 white stick as a masking tool for waves and water. I just ordered the Beya Rebai 10 crayon sets in warm and cool. I can see your chart list has a few of those listed - that Jade Green is the one I'm most excited about. (I will give them to my husband to have my kids give to me for my birthday next week wink wink) Happy Holidays , Becky!
Jade green is a pretty colour! I hope you enjoy the Beya Rebai ones - I've never used those! Happy Holidays. 🙂
Great video! Also, I quite liked your flower. It reminded me more of a carnation but I thought it was beautifully done. 😊
Thank you 😊
Another wonderful video! You’ve put so much work into it as always. Had to laugh at your irritation at the colour order: I totally get it! I’ve collected a lot of these open stock but have been paralysed looking at them: you’ve inspired me to give them a go. Your kingfisher is gorgeous! Thank you!
Thank you - I must have colour order, haha! I hope you get to make some lovely artworks with your collection. ❤
right 4th time watching this ....Asked for xmas 2023 .....Lucky you xxxx Happy swatching
I hope you get them!
@@BeckyTregear me too hahahahah 🥰🤣😂
Wow, the two background colours were really pretty together in the second layer, I'll have to try that! I have a little set of ten neos, I really like them. Would like to get more as loose stock. I think your painting turned out great- especially like the little green fruit for some reason 😋
Thank you! I upgraded from the ten tin to the 15, because it just has those few extra colours which really round out the palette for travelling. So I have a set of 10, 15, 84 plus extra blacks and also a few discontinued ones! 🤣 The green apples are one of the aspects which made me want to draw this picture. 😊
tHANK YOU FOR rhe tutorial it really helped me . I was pretty unhappy with my work just before I found your beautiful bird. Now I will carry on with new inspiration.
I’m so glad it was helpful! 😊
Very nicely done. I have a small tin of these and mostly use them as watercolor sticks…brush to crayon rather than crayon to paper. I love the vibrancy and ease of use. I need to use them more. That kingfisher is magnificent.
Thank you - the little tins are very handy and they are great as watercolour sticks for travel. 🙂
Your kingfisher is lovely 💕 I have been considering these for a while and seeing how they form in a painting is very helpful. Most videos about them only show swatches. It is also a grim day in the US, so thank you for a bright spot😘
Thank you, it's the largest artwork I've done with them so it was quite a challenge, lol. Also I am very sorry about what is happening over your way, there seems to be a lot of bad news lately. 😢
Hi, Becky! This was lovely - and there's nothing wrong with your rose.
Thank you! I feel like my cabbage rose was just a bit too literal in this case, lol. I will check out her video when I get a chance, that's some good timing, haha. 😂
Thanks share review very interesting have a good day
I like the IIs dry too-especially on black paper. I have bought a dozen or so open stock over the years. I’d love the big tin….maybe someday! Great painting. Beautiful!
Thank you, I must try them out on black!
Beautiful bird! I have built up a set of Neo2s...about 24 or so. I haven't really made good use of them, so seeing this makes me want to give them "love.". Thanks!
Thank you - I hope to use the more often!
Had to watch this again , fingers crossed I will get the 84 set next Humpday . I have been using mine in my Rita Burman coloring book and when drawing Pokemon...You made me laugh, alot xxx Happy Swatching xxxxxx
I hope you get the set; let me know if you do!! ❤
@@BeckyTregear I will let you know ...I really want lumance ,....Keep dreaming about them ..its Bad hahahaha
Nice Video. Great work..
Thank you 😊
LOVE THE ARTWORK!!!
I also LOVE the Neocolor line especially the watersoluble #2. I started with sets of 15 of the $1(non-watersoluble) the #2. Both sets had the exact same colors and numbers. I've added quite a few single colors especially greens. I've just started getting into oil pastels. I bought a set of 12 Neopastels plus several single colors. Watched an artist do a video using all three on the same picture. I knew all of those three Caron D'arche products used the same color numbers for the same hues. After watching your video, I did a quick check of the small Luminance set I have. From what I can see, they're also same color with same number. My guess is that numbers tell you when they were added.
I picked up a cheap white cutting board. It seems to have the same surface as the board Caron D'arche sells for creating washes out of watersoluble products only bigger. Love using Neocolor 2 in a wash.
I keep a pencil sharpener and use the bigger hole to make points on the ends. I don't have do many so I collect the shavings in old pill container and also use a spare cheap palette with the shavings.
Looking forward to seeing what else you'll do with them.
Some great advice tips in there, thank you! You'll have to let me know how the cutting board goes; I am sure there must be others which are comparable to the Caran d'Ache one. I will have to try sharpening my Neocolors in a large hole sharpener, or more scarily, using a knife. 😬
To Becky's husband: dear, would you be so kind and get her a set of Pablo as well? I'd love to see her review them even if it wasn't a full set.
I'll tell him that, lol! 😁💜
GORGEOUS Becky, I've got a 20 set but only swatched them, I must get them out and do something withvthem. It is the middle of summer here and the last 2 days have been boiling heat, today is very windy with black sky's and heavy rain, that's the UK for you. I'm working on a watercolour of an old barn in the snow so far so good lol
Thank you. We get crazy weather here too in Melbourne, and this winter has been particularly wet and miserable. Your painting sounds lovely! 💜
I love you picuter it really pops you are so tallented ,I have the 40 set Happy Crafting xxxx
Thank you, and I hope you're enjoying your set too!
@@BeckyTregear Yes i love them.
I always find it fun seeing people experiencing these for the first(ish) time :D They always seem more unique and strange to work with than they actually are. For thin lines/details you could always try using a fine brush and grab some of the pigment, or scrub the pastel/crayon onto a stiff plastic sheet and pick up from there as a pseudo palette. I have 12 colours in a travel kit that I use the former method with and it works amazingly, plus if you ever need to cover a large area you still have the pastels themselves
They are so handy for travel - almost like a watercolour stick really. Great for times when using water is too difficult and it can be added later! ❤
Beautifl job! And kudos to you for going big. I need to do that more! I adore these crayons - and yes, they're crayons! I have both the IIs and the Is. Started with the IIs because that's what my local store had, but what I really wanted were the Is. Even with the IIs, I overwhelmingly use them dry, and only wet them if I need better coverage of the texture of the paper. I had experimented with soft and oil pastels, but they are SO messy! Then I heard about "wax pastels," and quickly realized - oh, they mean CRAYONS! The price point on the Caran d"Ache was intimidating, but once I splurged on that first pack of 15 IIs, I fell in love. They are pretty much my go-to supply now. Every once in a while I'll crack out the oil pastels, and it's been even longer since I've used the soft pastels. Just too darn messy! But the Neocolors have such gorgeous colors, they are so smooth and incredibly pigmented, and I like the fact that they do force you to work more loosely and can't do fine details. If I want fine detail, I use colored pencils! I finally got a 10 pack of the Is, and it's amazing the range of colors I can get out of that little pack. And as you noted, I've used them a LOT, but the tips are only just rounded. I did finally cave, though, and got the 30 pack, which just arrived yesterday. So excited! Do you have more of your Neocolor works on your channel? I'd love to see more videos of people using these!
I have a loose collection of the entire range of Neocolor I which I bought as singles - still haven't used them much and I need to make a video about them too! I do have one other video;Crayola vs Caran d'Ache, where I used them to colour in a picture. That would be a year or two ago I guess!
Super fun. I really liked this painting and video. I am going to take Lindsday the Frugal Crafter's class on the water-soluble pastels, as these look so neat. Thank you for the fun video!!
Her class sounds like fun! 💜
The cabbageythingie is so vibrant!
Noo Becky, don't remind me of how fun these crayons look! Those bright colors are stunning. The orange contrasts the blue so well, which makes for such a vibrant painting.
I had a set of around 40 or so in the past and while I absolutely adored how they look, I didn't actually seem to use them very often. They'd also snap quite easily (which makes them less appealing to look at) and getting detail was difficult without sharpening them (which wastes so much pigment). I ended up selling them. But whenever I see artists use them I feel the urge to get another set because they look soooo beautiful!
Haha I can understand that! I don't use them often but when I do I am always struck by how good they are. I have found the little tin of 15 is great to have in an arty travel kit; just a few colours for on the go. Maybe that could be a solution if you wanted to get a few more again?
Hot press paper is the devil hahaha! I've never used these and to be honest I don't think it's my thing but wow your so talented! I loved your kingfisher! :D and I'd love to see the Caran D'Ache watercolour pencil review, I've got a set of Faber Castel watercolour pencils and I love them so it would be interesting to see how they differ, 12 hours on a picture!! wow! think the longest I've ever took over an artwork is about 5 hours, bet you had a numb behind after that lol :D
Thank you! I find watercolour pencils even more difficult but I do have a few sets to compare (eventually) so I will try to improve my skills with them. Hot press paper is always so much more difficult than cold press, haha!
So wonderful and if you get tired of them as crayons, you can put them in a palette and use them like watercolor. Beautiful picture!
They're definitely versatile that way! 😊
Lovely kingfisher!
Thank you 😊
I have the silver and periwinkle blue ones and they are so smooth and dissolve completely with water on the paper. I have yet to make an art piece with them, but I would totally buy more.
They're so lovely to use! 😊
This painting so beautiful you are too critical of your work the rose is lovely nothing wrong with it, I really like these crayons when you add water they are so vibrant, then you for your time great video 🤗
Thank you so much 😀 We artists are our own worst critics, haha!
@@BeckyTregear yes that is so true 👍
I ALWAYS struggle with dark backgrounds. They need SO many layers. So I understand your frustration. Love how vibrant neocolors become when you apply water. they just come to life. Yeah I did an A3 size, a glass and grapes for an art colony, organised by our mayor, so the works went to the town, it took me ages to finish it. Working large is a task especially with the dark background. then all the colors need to be very saturated and that takes time to achieve in watercolor.
Patience is definitely required; not one of my strong suits, haha! I love still life pictures. ❤
Thank you for video i purschased small set last yr and i still need to swatch it out and I felt bit overwhelmed i just had one tray set, i do like idea of buying a travel set the smaller tin is a nice size but i also so you can trim a small slab off the bottom andvput it in a paint well and use it that way too ...but seeing your idea how to set the colors better in the tin was nice, i was watching another artist and he( X. H.) And he rearranged his box of neocolor2 almost the same way i wouldve also i was happy to know im not the only artist that felt the crayon color postions were off...lol enjoyed video....mikelle art mom🎨👩🎨✍
Thank you! These were a little more difficult to put in order when compared with some other brands, and I still didn't get it quite right, haha! 😂 But it doesn't really matter too much I guess. Having a large set can definitely be overwhelming.
i love the neocolor IIs, just dont use them enough. great looking blue birb 😀
I don't use them enough either....I hope to change that! 😁
Yeas I would like seeing your review of the Caran D'ache Museum Aqualf pencils.
Becky, you did such a great job on this review! I truly appreciate all the effort you put into this video. I think the kingfisher painting turned out great and I thought it was super helpful to see how the Neocolor ll’s performed especially with layering. I have this same set in my art stash but I haven’t done much with them. I bought them around 2018 also when I was getting into watercolor painting. I would love to see a review of the Caran D’Ache pencils as well. Do you have the Museum Aquarelle pencils or the Supracolor pencils?
Thank you, this is definitely the largest art I've made with them so it pushed me out of my comfort zone a bit, haha. I have the Museum Aquarelles, and they're lovely but I'm pretty hopeless with them, lol.
Wonderful review! I love the Neo II as well. The colours are so vibrant and I like that they disolve in water perfectly. I would like to see a video about the Museum Aquarelle, which I love as well.
Don't tell me about the bad weather in Melbourne, lol. My son and his girlfriend will be moving there in October/November. They don't like the humidity in Brisbane.
I will see what I can do with the pencils! The weather should have improved by October....I hope! 😂
@@BeckyTregear haha, I hope so too. Hopefully you'll have some sunny days again.
The water resistant Neocolor are my favorite medium. They’re such an approachable medium and ended up being the perfect tool for me to push myself into creating more expressive pieces.
They're lovely too; I still need to make a video on those. 😊
@@BeckyTregear I’ll have to watch out for that review, excited to see what you do with them!
I've got a 40 colour tin of these. I've had them for years and I love using them. The cover is totally different and calls them 'Watersoluble artists crayons' so crayons isn't wrong. I use them with water soluble pencils which adds some nice effects. Thanks for the review.
Thank you, that's good to know - crayons it is! 😆
Your Kingfisher is lovely. Personally I would have changed the color of the rose so it wouldn't blend in with the feet. But if I did that I probably would end up not liking it. lol. Well, I think I have the ten set from an art subscription box. Yep it is the ten set. Thank you for sharing.
It didn't quite end up being the colour I'd anticipated but I'm stuck with it for now, haha! 😂
ok watched for the 3rd time ...cant get lumance pencils so I am buying these neo colors end of the month ....I have the 40 set so lots of spaires .Happy swatching
Oh that's a pain about the luminance pencils. I'm sure you'll love the big Neocolor set though! 💜
@@BeckyTregear we I gotta budget for my felllas xmas gifts hahahahaha thanks for understanding 🥰
Great job! This was a great video. I have a few individual colors and love this large set! How do you think the Neocolor II pastel crayons compare to Derwent Inktense in vibrancy, ease of use and lightfastness? Both brands look wonderful so it’s hard to choose!
Both products are wonderful to use and provide some intense colours. Inktense might well be even more saturated in colour. The big difference is the Neocolors have a more waxy texture whereas the Inktense blocks are more like a dry pastel before adding water. Also Neocolors lift more easily, whereas once dry the Inktense are permanent on the paper and don't budge with more water. The Inktense pencils are also very nice. I think Neocolors might be more lightfast overall, but might be worth checking both C-D and Derwent's websites for their full colour charts that have all of the lightfast ratings for each colour. 😊
Interesting that the colors don't wash out equally, but I do like your "perfect" color order! Those colors are rich! 🥰
I guess different pigments behave differently, but otherwise they are all good. And yes, very rich! 😊
@@BeckyTregear I've had these on my wishlist for years ..... someday soon I hope. I do like the larger set even though I'm use color minimalistically. So yummy!
Maybe you can cut them out and replace them. What a nice swatch. I bought last week the box with 15 in. Love it. Greetz from holland.
The 15 tin is really useful too - I have that one for travel because it's such an easy little tin to carry. 😊
@@BeckyTregear there was a note in the can that you can't place it in the sun or to warm. What if you go to Italië with 45 grd. Are they melting then?
Hi Becky, I love your videos. One question: how do you seal/fix Neocolor II?
I haven't sprayed fixative on them to know for sure. Possible oil pastel spray fixative? Watercolour fixative might also be ok, but honestly I'm not 100% on that!
@@BeckyTregearThanks Becky. I’m a little confused whether to treat it as a watercolour or an oil/wax pastel that just happens to be able to be used with water. Its chemistry seems similar to water mixable oil paints which, if I’m correct, you treat as an oil paint but it can be used with water. I think I just broke my brain.🤣
@@Maria-lleriuqs This would be my guess as well, so I think an oil pastel fixative would be the best bet. 😊
@@BeckyTregearThanks, Cheers.😊
I wonder if you could sharpen the crayons and just keep the shavings to use later in a palette with water? The painting turned out beautifully.
I am sure the shavings would dissolve, I just haven't tested it properly yet. 😬
I only make cards and do coloring books, so lightfastness makes no difference to me. I would prefer these over the inktense blocks.
These are great for anything really, and much easier to use than Inktense Blocks. I'm hopeless with those, haha! I love colouring books too. 😊
Im very confused with all there products like neo 1 & 2 and aqualla neo 2 and water and wax based can you help us understand and what ways should you use their products?? Can you help us?
Ah yes, there are a lot of confusing products there, haha! As far as I understand, any wax or oil based product that is water soluble, has had its chemistry altered so that water molecules will bind on, rather than being repelled as they do with regular wax. I'll try and figure out a way to show this and explain it more clearly! But basically Neocolor I crayons won't mix with water, and Neocolor II crayons will mix with water. And if the word "aqua" is in a product, it will activate with water. 🙂
I have a swatch sheet available that is divided by color group. Here is the link to my video: ua-cam.com/play/PL2aUWL5dYIxE8KTpvKru-xqIlgx0Shp7n.html
Did you know you can sharpen them in a hand held pencil sharpener. I do it all the time, great to get thinner lines..
I will try it with one of my larger hole sharpeners, thank you. 😊