Taylor Swift Is NOT America's It Girl | The Taylor Swift Craze
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@@Graciemaecoleman I was about to say oh lordddd😭
One comparison Taylor and Beyonce have that’s similar is they both come from well off families and their parents invested heavily in the success of their children and fully supported their dreams
dont forget their parents are their managers
@@lilblackfish2009 was for Beyonce but I don't know about Tayler
@@jameslight4391 Taylor's father BOUGHT her career
@@jasminejames127No
@@12carla4 yes
I will say tho.. what she did with re-recording her music for her masters then doing the eras tour was definitely a boss move
No, well respected seriously.
Doing it while she was touring ! Some before, during , and If I am not mistaken she might have one left . Reputation maybe?
Not sure but a Swiftie would definitely know!
@@soulfireonfire6423there’s 2 left. And you’re correct that one of them is reputation.
@@Skorpio1121
Thank you !
Other artist have done this as well
I didn't see the hype in Taylor Swift. This year I decided to listen to her discography to see why is everyone obsessed with this woman because she can't dance and her voice it really not extraordinary like Beyonce or Mariah Carey. After listening I wouldn’t say I'm a fan but I did get a better perspective as to why she is so popular. I always heard that she was a great songwriter but I never paid attention to the lyrics. The best way to describe her song is that it's basically short stories. Where she paints vivid images through her songwriting. That style of writing is not for everybody especially not for me but did get a better perspective. She can sing but she is not a vocalist she even stated herself that first and foremost she is a songwriter more than anything who sings her own songs. Also, one thing to keep in mind in terms of her discography its probably one of the most diverse in terms of genre which surprised me. There's one album that you will like more than the other because of this. Thats one of the reasons she has a large fanbase. There's basically different entry points where anyone can be hooked in her music. Also for me, your level of success rarely equals the amount of talent you have to have longevity in the music industry you have to have drive but also smart in terms of the moves you make to keep yourself relevant in pop culture and she has been doing this for 17 years and she just keeps getting bigger. I do think of course she does have a lot of privilege due to being white in america but that only get you so far especially at the level that she is at the moment.
Ppl discrediting Taylor Swift bc of her vocal ability or dance skill [as if her fame is attributed to those elements] always shocked me . Some folks honestly think entertainment value only comes in the form of powerhouse vocal gymnastics and fancy footwork, ignoring songcraft and musicianship, or…you know… actually playing instruments?! Imagine if they judged legends like Bob Dylan, Carole King, or Joni Mitchell by those standards? 😅 Dylan wasn't belting out high notes or busting moves, yet he's a music icon who sold his catalog for $500 million. Who needs dance classes when you've got talent like that? 🤷🏾♂️😂
@@AXFN_ you can also apply this to singing and dancing as well those are both great and impressive art forms that an artist can master a lot of people think that an artist who don't write or play instruments are less of an artist which isn't true because there's more to an artist than just writing or just playing instrument or singing or dancing and etc. all those art forms is what makes an artist, an artist shouldn't be define by what they can't do when there are other talents they have and can master art wise if that makes sense but if you have some knowledge about vocals you can say that someone's voice is their instrument like there are incredible vocalist out there who literally can imitate an instrument with their voice which is pretty cool
I agree with this, it's why I am a Taylor Swift fan
The songwriting has been the main thing for me
However she is also really good at not only painting a picture but bringing it to life
On stage she may not have the best vocals or best dance moves but she still is able to entertain a stadium crowd for 3 hours.
From the clothing, to the visual effects, her dance crew & set designers definitely carried a lot.
She knows how to keep an audience hooked which is sometimes more impactful
Especially cause I love Katy Perry yet hate her tours due to them seeming like too much to me.
I love Beyonce's tour better though, it was great all around
@@AXFN_for popstar as big as her yes pure takent should be the minimum to offer
White privilege? Then shouldn't every white person be successful? So there's no homeless people that are white or no white people working at a fast food place or there's no poor White people? You sound very ignorant. I'm not even white and this comment pisses me off.
I blame Kanye. He even caused President Obama to comment on it. It then allowed her marketing to paint her as this underdog.
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯💯💯
Definitely not lol.
tbf he did make mbdtf because of that moment
When you look at the numbers even before the Kanye incident Taylor beginning to outpacing him (and Beyoncé) commercially. They all dropped albums in 2008, a year before the vma incident and Taylor outsold them both.
I agree. Love Kanye, not his fault media is racist, but he definitely made that bitch famous
Her parents helped make her dreams come true. Something we all wish our parents would do. I have no hate for this woman that never stopped chasing her dreams.
Shes like one of the least unproblematic singers out there, theres an obvious reason why her fans are so loyal to her and her works
Yet the conversation & vitiriol is so different when it comes to Beyoncé and her parents….
@@itzcandy5896Doesn’t that have more to do with Beyoncé’s father’s misbehavior? I’ve never heard anyone complain about how Beyoncé’s parents support her, only about how he was a poor example of management to other women and girls in their lives.
@@yos877 she is in fact problematic
@@Laurica-lb6nv you may elaborate
The Swifties inner demons have been agitated w this one😭😭
Side note: I also like some of Taylor swifts songs but I’m not gonna pretend like she isn’t redundant. She writes/ sings about the same things that other female artist do. In terms of talent I’m not going to deny that she has it but there are other artist who surpass her in talent just by their voices alone. She appeals to a certain demographic and that’s fine, but to compare her to people like Michael Jackson and Beyonce?? Y’all have to be kidding me.
Agreed. I do not understand the hype. She is not the first female singer/songwriter. Michael Jackson was a singer/songwriter, choreographer, dancer. Beyonce is one of the best singers of my generation and an excellent entertainer. Taylor is not close in comparison.
@@nuclearwessels2078nobody's taking anything away from Beyoncé... people like Taylor Swift better...and that's okay...also it's not the talent they compare with other legendary artists it's the chart records and achievements she holds...she broken records made by The Beatles, Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson etc..at a young age and as woman... infact she set her own records multiple times...she became her own competition no other current generation artists (male or female) is beating her in sales, streaming or Chart success...no other women in music (regardless of race) has managed to achieve what she has in her 30's in their whole career...also her Uber fame ...
This is what all catered to the comparison i believe. Not the individual talent of those artists.
I still don't think it's fair to compare her charts and accomplishments to the legends from back then because the access we we have today compared to back then is honestly limitless not to mention the world's population has increased. She's phenomenal in the sense that she has a mass following but I'd have to agree that their is redunace in her music after about Red with Reputation being the exception . Definitely over hyped
Thank you for saying it! I like some of Taylor swifts songs ain’t no need to pretend that she don’t make catchy good music, but she’s being gassed up to be this musical/entertainment standard!
@@Kriissy121
See here where I think these recent phrases of her being “ over exposed, overhyped, it doesn’t matter!
Just like it doesn’t matter who thinks there are many other singers who have a better voice then TS!
The fact is AND always has been,
coming from TS herself, she knows,
she does not have the best voice.
But again it doesn’t matter!
Taylor Swift established herself long before her Eras Tour.
So anything being brought up about overexposure, and overhyped, and then in anyway relating it to her success, it’s irrelevant! In every way.
The fact is… there are 100’s of millions of people world wide that do like TS.
The fact is.. that there are 100’s of millions of people that purchase her music in a variety of ways.
The fact is that 100’s ’of millions, purchase her tickets when she announces to her fans first , before anyone else. she’s going on tour.
In this country and Internationally!
I am not saying that there isn’t any other means used when she’s touring. But it’s only done by her marketing company. That she owns!
My point nothing from West or any other controversial incident, or whatever… makes people by albums, tickets, etc !
People purchasing her music and tour tickets like TS .
That’s it. Mothers who may take their daughters who like Swift to her concerts, with only 11% of her fans base being under the age of 18in this country, are not having any significant impact on TS ticket sales in such away as the ladie in that video was portraying!!!
Those stats were from the last time I looked was May or June 2023. when she was touring,
The reason for looking was because I kept seeing this standard cut down bashing Swift statements on videos of her concerts that fans were posting, saying
Well who couldn’t entertain 10 year olds. Or 12-14. Year olds. Etc..
it started irritating me for the simple fact that I am watching a lot of the fan recorded Eras footage!!
And what they are continually repeating, I wasn’t seeing. So they are making this standard.statement in the comments section, on a video that’s showing the exact opposite!
LMAO!!!
Kanye was GAGGED when Jay asked how Donda would feel about this. Idk as an adult the Kanye v Taylor beef is funny to me. It was so appalling back in the day for sure
It was disgusting.
That’s just trifling that Jay Leno said that (glad he’s off television now smh)
& jay lino had a MAJOR accident a few years ago. car blew up in his face. karma? he had no right bringing a dead mother over award show@@abbied
@@jennyjones4875 Yeah I think I remember hearing about that before now that you mention this
@@abbiedHe also made fun of Whitney Houston, sounds like he loved to make fun of Black Entertainers.
just a correction: taylor never denied the phone call, she said she was never made aware of line "i made that b word famous" which is true coz the full call leaked in 2020. her publicist also confronted kim for it. it's a known fact that kim edited the phone call and in 2016 taylor was already over exposed and it was easier to target her and that's what happened. y'all can call her white privilege, talentless or whatever but atleast shouldn't deny the revenge p word kind of video kanye put out. no woman should be put through that.
Also she asked him to send over the finished lyrics and some time to think about it. She never got that.
@@XEveryoneLovesEmilyX i used to like this creator's content but i felt like she hates taylor with the way she worded a few things, badly researched video too btw
Comparing her to Micheal Jackson is crazy 🥴like that is insane I don’t know where the hell they got that at 😭
😂😂 let's be VERY CLEAR, THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER MICHAEL JOSEPH JACKSON. EVER.
@@kia.203Yeah, MJ is a once-in-a-lifetime star he can never be duplicated (I’m talking not even ai, a hologram nothing) only one MJ and he will forever reign as the king of pop (dead OR alive) #mjforever 🫶🏻💕
@@kia.203Also I hope you guys will check out the biopic being made of MJ played by MJ’s grandson (I think it’s gonna be really good) the boy is the spitting image of Michael
Tanginha mo, i don't understand the hype for MJ!
@@kia.203 literally he was just completely different then everyone now and then
“And she is white and she can sing” 😂😂😂caught me off guard for some reason 😭
I laughed out loud. 😂😂 it was so honest it was shade
It’s fun to laugh at be we know it’s a joke, right? We do know whiteness will only get you so far right? I feel like some people in our community actually believe this. 😬
She really can't though. Her voice is just ok. The reason she is so popular now is bc she is rich and knows the power of PR. BUT just you watch ... The more she pays to disrupt our feeds by shoving herself into our faces, the more ppl will grow tired of her.
@@Katrieliblebro you don’t know anything trust me
@@Katrielible Do you think people listen to an artist because she's rich? Yes probably she and her team want to use this moment of maximum popularity to the utmost (like every artist do) and maybe some people do listen to her now just because she is trending (like thay always do with every artist of the moment!!) and it's true that we love to see beautiful rich people. But if we want to talk seriously about the power of rich people, what they should do better etc , we have to talk about the whole celebrity industry and THEN would be interesting. Not just say things like " they probably listen to her because she's white and all the girls are dumb soo that's whyy" while probably a lot of people simply like some of the lyrics and there is that. Why we have to questionate people's music tastes?? Because it's the one trending now so there is something bad? So boring, use your time doing something useful😂
I blame Kanye for it!! When he snatched that Grammy from her white America supported her every move from then on, they wasn’t gonna allow that Kanye was cancelled before cancel culture became a thing, luckily his star power is big enough he came back from that. Since then she’s been americas sweet heart.
It wasn’t a Grammy it was a VMA.. he looked dumb because Beyoncé ended up with the bigger reward that night anyway
That's funny. He is basically Dr. Frankenstein by trying to play God, but instead he ended up creating a monster XD
Not even a Taylor stan tbh but "You Belong with Me" music video was actually more entertaining than "Single Ladies" 🤷♀️
Same!!! But if he hadn’t done that then Kanye would’ve never dropped “My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy”
@@mariabrown6926 I disagree. You belong with me gave cheesy teenage romcom. Single ladies was iconic choreography.
Hey girl, you forgot to add that the phone call was leaked in 2020 proving that Taylor WAS NOT LYING AT ALL
She was lying
Not lying? Are we delusional now? Back then, Taylor said she was never called to talk about the song at all. Then years later she said that the beef was just around not hearing one word "BlTCH" that ended up in the final version. I can't believe some people are so naive to fall for PR b*******
@@Pg-jj4gr are u dumb and i think the girl in the vedio likes kanye
Yes she was. Her camp initially claimed Kanye didn’t ask for her approval-he did. Only after Kim K proved that, did she start this whole “you don’t get to control someone’s emotional reaction to being called a bitch thing” and completely changed her original story as to what her problem was with the the song . Compare her publicist’s comments at the time with her own then and later, and it’s as plain as the nose on your face
@@FraudSpotter24 and after all this bulllshiit u find taylor to be the culprit weren't they were the one who said that and when he called her have u even see that vedio she was so uncomfortable she even told not to say anything mean and still that ba$tard called her that
i am not white but its still easy to understand why she's famous. i get your critique, but taylor is a genuinely talented artist who has worked hard to get where she is. she's also a smart businesswoman and knows how to break through the music industry and advertise her music.
She is mediocre
@@moonlightprincess449 for you, if you don't like her music, don't listen.
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Last one.
I am not going to be mad at parents for providing for their child’s dream. While I know Swift is privileged, she did not take her parent’s contributions for granted. I feel her parents gave her a push and she put in the work to continue it.
I am not going to disrespect her hard work and her business mind. I respect that.
But I can understand why some believe that she plays the victim in some situations and be out of touch in others.
But I do not think she is a bad person and she is allowed to make mistakes. I think for the most part, she tries to bring closure with people she “feuds” with, so to speak which I don’t think is a bad thing either.
THANKyou! Taylor is allowed to mess up sometimes
Kanye asked if he could say the “I think me and Taylor might still have sex” line and she said yes. She did not give him permission to call her a bitch. Kim edited the footage so it made her seem like she agreed.
I am not, nor have I ever been a Swiftie. When she was up and coming I used to make fun of Swifties simply because I was in my “not like other girls” era listening to mainly punk. However - as much much as I’m not her biggest fan, to say that she didn’t work hard on her Eras tour is kinda wild. I’ve never been a fan of her music, but the one thing I could always agree on was how hard she worked.
Before the point that she disappeared for like 2 years, she had been on tour for almost a year straight with no breaks.
We can dissect why she’s so successful all we want, but to say she didn’t earn it or that Kanye is solely responsible for her success is reaching.
And side note, do some more research on that phone call with Kanye - there’s more to that than meets the eye. 😬
Just my 2 cents 🤷🏻♀️
She definitely does not work hard. Your comment actually pisses me off lmao. Seeing musicians work all the time and you praising a part timer
there really was no he said she said in the masters situation. taylor was asked to sign ndas so she couldn't speak about her experience when she tried to negotiate deals. The deal given to her was to buy back an old album for a new one ,, essentially trying to bind her in another 6 album contract. she chose not to do that. scooter has publicly bullied her so she was hurt that a man she helped build (scott-- because lets face it the record label was nothing without her name) would sell it to scooter,, not playing the victim but being hurt because she used to think of Scott as an almost father figure , they were very close . whatever she said , she has followed up with actual proof , something the other person hasn't because they can't. So no , it wasn't a he said she said who to believe situation
People act like this situation isn't something a lot of musicians had to go throu. Taylor set a new Standard where practices like that get called out and isn't just seen as "part of the business" anymore
If I listen to Taylor’s fearless album on UA-cam taylor is getting paid right? I don’t want to contribute to them stealing from Taylor
@@thecure3982 Yes, she does 😊
I’m NOOO Taylor fan BUT how are you going to make a video and leave out the unedited phone call…..too many videos on UA-cam of people doing celeb vids do not know how to be UNBIASED….a real reporter as in professionals always present both sides to let the public forum their own opinions….this seems biased and actually made me stop watching ..sorry
What I don’t understand is why do you attack Taylor based on “she is white” and “she is not talented enough”. Both women are gorgeous and deserve to be respected. They have totally different vibes and music even though they’re both in pop category. They also have very different marketing strategies and that’s normal. I don’t see why are you looking for a problem here.
Because she is a white women that is not that god damn talented and white america does not want to admit it look at other white artists like Harry Styles who are also at the same talent but aren’t used to prop up industries in the name of money
Because "thing actually bad" is a whole genre on UA-cam.
But she’s not looking for a problem so what r u talking about
But those points are very important and valid, that pushes her to heights she would never reach if she weren’t all this
pathetic blacks are dying from jealousy that's why lol
In that video where Kanye is showing her the song she does sound sad. Kinda fucked to continue the song and pr move or not it’s crazy she gave him the vanguard award. He really humiliated her and she was really gracious about it. I was a big fan of her the first 3 albums and I’m a lower income Mexican girl so it’s not hard to see why she has so many fans and she’s so popular. She was relatable with the vulnerability in her music at least early on.
I agree, I find the entire call thing sketchy on both sides. But admit that she sounded uncomfortable or unsure on the call, even though she blvocally agreed.
I don’t know if anyone else has had this problem but the audio from 27:40 to 28:40 is cutting out and completely disappears at the end.
It's cutting out for me
I WAS GONNA SAY 😂😂
Ya. I have this problem too.
Drove me nuts 🤣🤪
I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME
Whoa lady, you trying to build Kayne as thr saint here when Kim edited thr phone call and then thr REAL call was later leaked. If youre gonna tell the Kayne story then TELL THE WHOLE STORY!!!!!!
You sound dumb Kanye was still right he called her and she was ok with it
I stopped being a fan when I was a kid and realized she faked being country. If she wouldn’t have marketed herself as growing up in a small town world I still would have listened to her music. The little girl in me felt bamboozled 😂 she’s so overhyped
Question: Why debate how much of her success she deserves, we rarely do that with male popstars _[And I’m a guy saying that]?_ What more do people want from Taylor? She’s a singer/songwriter who excels in diaristic songcraft, understands her fans, achieved a seamless transition from Country to Pop with no audience erosion [extremely difficult]. She went head to head with Spotify, Ticketmaster, record labels, and Hollywood, in risks that paid off and made her a billionaire. She consistently sells out stadiums worldwide. Her albums have debuted as million-sellers consistently for 14 years. Biggest tour of all time. Biggest concert film of all time (self-financed). She re-wrote industry rules and outsmarted labels, leaving them scrambling to rewrite contracts after her re-recordings success. I’ll never not champion her beating these corporations at their own game. I can’t even hate. Yet some will downplay those accomplishments or say _“she’s only a success bc she’s white”_ when there’s an endless supply of talented, attractive white artists, male & female, whose whiteness will *never* achieve them the success of a Taylor Swift. Her success, musicianship and cultural capital, have earned her, the right to stand beside Beyoncé or any other icon, because those are her only peers left. 🤷🏾♂️
I disagree. She’s up there with them achievement wise BUT that doesn’t automatically make her a legend and this is coming from a Swift fan. Bringing up BIG names like Madonna or MJ is crazy dude
@@lessismore8533 who do you see as Taylor swifts peers in terms of her longevity and success though? The list is very short…
@@lessismore8533
Who’s bringing those names up?
Every generation. decades etc have artist who excel. That doesn’t mean those new artist have to be like the artist from decades before! They don’t have to achieve the approval from the artists prior to them and their fan base! There talent doesn’t have to be exactly the same !
Wanna know why?
Because her fans don’t give a rats axx if you or anyone else don’t think she’s as good as, or better , or should be me too bed in the likes of whoever!!!
Because she already is huge and they like her.
Swift is just as big if not bigger then Madonna was!!
I grew up in that era. I was a music fan when she dropped her first song. I worked with a Madonna fanatic !!
TS draws just as big, really bigger crowds, then Madonna!
Let’s just hope she doesn’t follow in Madonnas path!!! So far she hasn’t gone done the path of dressing and acting disgusting as Madonna did!!!
Now Madonna unrecognizable in her looks because it’s obvious she’s lost her ever loving mind in the past 10 years.
Swiftie??? Show me where TS has ever compared herself or stated she was just as good or better then anyone?
Statistically she has beaten Madonnas record in the women artist category not only tours but many other stats .
But back to common sense, who compared her or said whatever you are using as a debate to the original commenter?
Give me an original source where this BS about MJ, Madonna etc started saying she was just as talented or what ever everyone’s crying about that has them running to the store fur tissues!
Male pop stars also get arguments about how much success they really deserve...e.g. Justin Bieber
For the media and fans to compare Taylor Swift to Beyoncé or Michael Jackson is extremely disrespectful, Taylor does have talent however she doesn't have to work 3X as hard as Mike and Bey. If people wanna do comparisons it be more appropriate to put Taylor with Faith Hill, Carrie Underwood, Céline Dion, Sheryl Crow, Miranda Lambert, Kacey Musgraves.
What’s the point in comparing Taylor to any of the people that you listed when shes surpassed them all of them 10x over. Kacey Musgraves? Are you kidding? No shade I actually love Golden Hour, but Taylor Swift has very few peers left. 🤷🏾♂️ She surpassed Xtina, she surpassed Britney Spears. The list of megastars you can compare Taylor’s success to is extremely short now. Especially with them touring stadiums at the same time it made sense for the industry to compare Taylor & Beyoncé bc Bey is on that shortlist of female megastars selling out stadiums who’ve sold hundreds of millions of records.
@@AXFN_not fair to put Xtina in this list when she’s released less albums over time. Taylor has been around since only 2007 and released more albums in a shorter time. Compare Taylor to those who’ve released JUST as much and who have released the same amount if albums in the same amount of years . Also we have to remember Britney, Bey and Xtina debuted in the 90s when promoting music had less exposure. There was baby internet and no social media
@@lessismore8533 you’re saying who we _shouldn’t_ compare to but you’re not naming names. And the point about the 90s is ass backwards 🥴 music sales were higher in the 90s and marketing music was much 100x more impactful pre-internet. It was much easier to have the world’s attention at once through legacy media. Now everybody’s at the mercy of algorithms and the publics entertainment options are endless. The Internet and social media altered our habits, attention spans, and contributed to the ‘death of monoculture’ and the fragmentation of media. That’s why it is almost impossible that we ever see global megastars on the level of the Beatles, MJ or Madonna ever again. But Taylor Swift comes pretty close, and is the last of a dying breed. Conglomerates like Warner Music Group have even said they’re shifting away from reliance on superstars altogether and moving to a new business model to suit the times.
They're compared in terms of global domination in the industry. Country stars are mostly national so its weird that you only want to compare her to white women who aren't on her level.
I love Beyoncé and MJ, but I agree with the previous poster... It’s strange you compare her to less popular white female artists. Just because in your opinion she ranks lower, if you look at her on an international scale she’s far surpassed most artists and in line with the best.
Big Swiftie here, and I have mixed feelings on this vid. I agree that Taylor’s whiteness and financial status of her parents played an important role in her success - it would be stupid to even try denying that. In a 75% white country, it will always be easier for white artists to connect with the most people. I also agree that the initial Kanye incident was a big PR boost for her, despite the fact she routinely refused to discuss it in interviews at the time.
But you don’t get to be Taylor Swift without serious talent. For her, that’s her songwriting and ability to connect with fans on a personal level. The fact her personal life is so tied into her music makes it all the more intriguing to fans to dissect and decode, driving engagement in ways few artists really capture. To her fans, she’s not an untouchable goddess or an awe-inspiring diva, she’s your best friend, your big sister, *you*, and in an age where people (especially young people) feel so disconnected from each other, that parasocial relationship goes far.
I also can’t say I’m a fan of you painting “Swifties” as a bunch of racists. Sure, there are racists in there, but it’s a group of millions of people, of course you’re going to get crappy ones. Part of the reason Taylor broke up with Matty Healey was because a majority of her *fans* were upset by his behavior, so his is clearly not the prevailing opinion. Tbh I’m really tuned into Swiftie news (hence finding this video 3 hours after it was posted) and I’d never heard of anyone going after Travis’ ex. It’s neither acceptable behavior nor encouraged by the vast, vast majority of fans, same way most of us disapprove of people going after her exes like Jake Gyllenhaal (not Jack Gailenhall).
Lastly, the failure to include that the video Kim released of Taylor approving lyrics was doctored is frustrating. This is a common misconception to this day, but Taylor’s objection was to being called the “B-word”, which I’d think someone who refuses to say the word “bitch” would appreciate more. She never approved that and that’s what her objection was to.
Overall not a poor video, and generally well-researched, but Taylor’s success is complex and portraying it as anything else is disingenuous. I don’t think you even really touched on her folk albums, Folklore and Evermore, which were also instrumental in her being taken more serious as an artist by many people.
Well said
She’s still a mid white girl
Hey girl, it’s okay. I get where you’re coming from, but at the same time, she ain’t an encyclopedia or a computer you know?
There is no "serious" talent. That's the point being made in this video!!!!
Completely agree
How I think she got so big:
1. Parents were rich and were able to support and fund her rise
2. Picking the country genre to start in and only later moving into pop so she would have no competition from all the other pop girlies during her rise
3. Fully exploited setbacks to present herself as a victim/underdog so people felt good about supporting her (being dumped, kanye interrupting her speech, her dancers joining katy perry's tour, scooter buying her catalog)
4. Being very secretive about her love life but releasing music that constantly seems to refer to it (people love being let in on a secret/solving a mystery)
5. Cultivating a us-against-the-world mentality so people feel good about joining her fanbase
6. Being very strategic/creating fomo with releasing music (rerecording her catalog, different versions/colours/remixes) that fans feel they have to collect so it gets her more money/records/spots on the charts
7. Surrounding herself with lots of other celebs so that celebs fanbase is automatically on her side (dropping them when they are problematic/no longer serve a purpose like Selena)
I personally think she is a very mid musician and essentially not a nice person (petty and vindictive about perceived wrongdoings, calculated and childish) but I am absolutely baffled with how big she has gotten.... But as they say, the higher you climb the further you could fall, people start to call her out for her wrongdoings, like staying silent on the girl that passed away at her concert in Brazil, lying about the kim/kanye phone call, the constant stream of pap articles about her and Travis, etc. I think it's time this sycophancy ends.....
Orrrrr she grew up and realized country music wasn’t for her and worked her butt off to get where she is 😂😂 stop reaching .
Literally but her mid supporters will say otherwise
@@shortycb2349Taylor Swift grew up???? Comical. She was never a true country artist. She was never going to stay in country. What she is doing now was ALWAYS the plan. Even her most ardent fans have to admit that.
Taylor became big because she filled the vacant spot of music written in perspective of listeners. Her parents weren't old money , middle class people who lived in Christmas tree farm.
Michael Jackson, beyonce who are nepotism babies made into industry cause of there connections, Taylor didn't come from family of music. She got noticed by music executive by playing at a bar in Nashville. Her success is organic and talent comes in many form. Y'all black people think songwriting isnt a it factor of successful musician when songwriting serves more than singing.
Dude...get a life and stop hating
Life is short to hold so much hate in your life for a person you don't know personally and who don't even know who you are
You talk as if you know her when In reality you don't and just a nobody 🤣
The biggest problem with this video is that it generalized everything and had a lot of black and white thinking. Just because she doesn’t like or know of black women that like Taylor Swift’s music doesn’t mean she can generalize and say that all black people don’t. This video was created to bash someone in a very cruel way and then to try to bash other women against other women is shameful. Like what was the reason of even adding Beyoncé in this video?? If your main topic is about Taylor Swift then why add her and compare the amount of people that went to their concerts and etc. Then when people call you out on it you ignore them and have a rude way to comment back. The rude comments this UA-camr is saying back to people commenting just shows that she has ego and doesn’t like to be corrected. As a person on a public platform you’d think she would have grace and be open to have discussions but I guess if it doesn’t happen to agree with her sentiments then she gets rude for no reason.
Agreed. I’ve been a subscriber for a while but unsubbed after this video purely because of her response to criticism in the comments.
If you don’t agree with it then you can leave. Have you ever heard about an opinion? She doesn’t need to cater to your feeling nor act a certain way to make you happy. A lot of stuff she said is spot on and true then some where others might not agree with it but that happens! Taylor swift ain’t allowed to be held accountable, criticized not even talked about even when someone is saying it in a respectful way like all y’all are doing is proving her point.
@@0fficialselena__90 equally people are allowed to comment their own opinion to disagree with hers.
@Minniemooz Lmaoo you just repeated what I said 😅 She can have an opinion and you can have yours but staying it as a fact is in fact, not an opinion. She doesn't need to cater to your feeling nor does she owe you anything and if you don't like it then remove yourself.
@@0fficialselena__90 no, if people don’t like it then they have every right to voice that.
I saw gays Asians and brown people at the Eras tour and all over the world. Saying she’s only or majorly white is just ignorant and a coping mechanism. Who cares if you like Beyoncé better? I don’t like her at all. Zero. It’s all about tastes. Not one is better than the other.
White ppl is definitely majority of her fan base yes other races like her but the majority of her fanbase is white. Instead of being offended pay attention to the word MAJORITY that doesn’t mean all
27:28 ah yes, Taylor Swift saved the economy, even though she only made 0.005% of the American Domestic GDP (22 Trillion). She made a lot, but we are still fucked.
Toni why didn’t you talk about the fact that kim edited the call and the full phone call came out later abd completely proved that Taylor was telling the truth the whole time?! Girl you did no research
Toni… I’ma let you finish but… Taylor Swift had the best selling tour of all time
Not really she only made more than Beyonce cse she did 146 tour dates vs Beyonce who did 56
@@dianasohn2515naw, I got presale for B and Taylor. I got B's tickets two week after the presale. Taylors were sold out in 2 hours.. And to get resale tickets for Taylor are 1k + I love B. But Taylors fan don't play.
because she had 100+ shows...if beyonce did that she'd outsell taylor with ease
@@archivesunset4214 idk about that honestly lol. Taylor went to every city that had a football stadium for 2-5 shows per night in the UK. Ion think B could sell out like that in every city
@@SuckerPunch92 Beyonce could do the same and has done the same be fr.
I think you raise a few interesting points, but I do not enjoy this video’s systematic belittlement of achievement.
I’m not a Taylor Swift fan, but I honestly started getting offended by how much you put down her work.
I agree that she is likely successful because she is marketable as an attractive, charismatic white woman. However, this video constantly seems to put her down because of her young girl fanbase. And tbh, I thought we were over making fun of girls.
I feel this lessened the strength of your very valid and interesting points about the race dynamics around Swift. Now all I can think about is: oh so we’re making fun of teenage girls and young women again just because we like another artist better that doesn’t pull this target group.
I don't understand how any of this video is "belittlement". Personal opinion, sure, but it's clear that these are just opinion-based observations. The choice language used wasn't centered around putting anyone down either. Sorry to hear you didn't enjoy watching regardless, and wishing you a great week💖
Thank you, Lily. I was very careful with my words especially given I actually like Taylor as an artist lol
It’s the same argument as “ she’s only famous because she’s light skinned.” Black America likes to dismiss biracial and light skinned talent also like they do the whites. If this video was about Beyoncé and a DSBW the creator would more likely take the DS side while claiming Bae is here because of colorism.
I’m black America the only talent is black people especially DS
I'm not even a Swiftie when I say this, but this video is ridiculous. First of all, you conveniently leave out the part where the leaked phone call with Kanye has been proven to be edited down to paint TS as a villain, but you go ahead and play into the narrative that she was lying and trying to play the victim. Then at the end of your video, you're basically implying that Taylor is racist because all her fans are "little white girls" who bullied Kayla Brown, and Taylor didn't speak up for her. I don't support any form of bullying for Kayla or racist comments targeted towards her, so if you made a video calling out those comments, I would have no problem with it. However, you're trying to paint this narrative that Taylor is racist for not speaking out when she's not responsible for the actions of other people online and she has a lot going on in her life. Beyonce fans are known for bullying too, and Beyonce hasn't always called them out in the past. Why is Taylor being held to a different standard?
As for why is Taylor so popular, maybe it's because her a lot of people just actually love her music? It's not always, oh she has white privilege and America only cares about white women. If that's so, why have there been countless black female artists over the past several decades who have sold hundreds of millions of records? People aren't racist cause Taylor's concert is more popular than Beyonce. Even if her fans go out of their way to say Taylor is better than Beyonce or MJ, they're allowed to do so and that doesn't make them racist. Taylor's music has qualities that some people just gravitate to more than Beyonce or MJ, and that's okay. If a swift thinks TS is the most influential artist of all time, that's fine. They're not oppressing black people by doing so. I don't think TS is better than either Beyonce or MJ, but I'm not offended if someone does.
It's funny how commentators like you claim to be so against racism that you actually become racist yourself. You keep putting down Taylor's fanbase by calling them "little white girls," and Beyonce's fanbase is apparently more legit cause it's more diverse. First of all, a huge portion of Taylor's fanbase is gay, so let's not erase that. Second of all, the skin color of the artist or the audience does not determine how objectively good the music is, and people are allowed to like whatever music they like without being labelled privileged or racist. Beyonce has sold over 200 million records worldwide (not even including Destiny's Child), and the Renaissance Tour is the second highest grossing female tour at over half a billion dollars. Is that not good enough?
saying you're not a Taylor fan but writing 3 paragraphs is insane
Few people will always going to have problem with someone who is rich, talented, famous and good looking.
Yah
I found certain parts of this video not well researched like the kanye incident the hate train cancellation etc
After being Kanye'd she was Jay z'ed. Shame on them. The latter didn't want her to make history with record breaking in a grammy category. He lost his cool status, whining like that with all the blessings he had. And comparing her to Beyonce as if she lost her crown to a white girl. She doesn't write her songs. Not a fan of Swift, but she deserves whatever comes her way.
What did Jay Z do? I love taylor
I usually enjoy your videos, but this one needed more research and positivity. I am NOT a Swiftie. However, they actually have a right to be upset with this video. You've summarized Taylor as (1) nothing more than a rich White girl who loves playing the victim role, and (2) her White-girl fans (and racist America) are the reasons why she outdid Beyoncé in concert sales. Is that completely accurate or positive? 😞
You failed to mention that Taylor was VINDICATED when someone leaked the entire video of her conversation with Kanye. That exposed him and Kim as the liars for editing/tampering with the evidence of an ILLEGAL phone recording. Leaving that key information out only furthers the false narrative "Kimye" concocted.
As far as concerts go, Taylor used "dynamic pricing" to sell her tickets. That's the MEGA reason why she earned more than ANYONE on tour this year. Moreover, Beyoncé and Taylor supported each other during their respective tours. Comparing the two in this negative light will only undermine the unity between these powerful women and create more tension between their fans. Viewing your comment section, seems like you only liked comments that disrespect Taylor. Your bias is as clear as day.
This video isn't terrible, but it's not your best either. Just be more careful with your research and message next time. ❤
Im actually in shock with some of these comments in here…Toni bless your heart girl, loved your video and very well executed and explained. Honestly if people can’t understand that as talented as people see Taylor, she benefits from being the image America will love and protect (clearly a white, blonde skinny girl) I don’t know what to tell all of you. 🤷🏾♀️
Sorry to burst your bubble..but she's more than just a blonde, white skinny girl..if that's the case there r several in the industry....why r they not getting the same success as hers? It's her music & songwriting that connects people...I'm not white or American..yet I feel that connection with her music ever since I was 13 or 14...I'm 27 now...Her music speaks to me that many artists don't connect the same way like she does for me...and I listen to a lot of artists..to stereotype her as a White Girl music...is just redundant...cus she has a diverse audience.. especially outside America...Asia is her biggest Market outside US.
I mean it’s mostly her fans, so I’m not surprised😂 I expected this, but thank you boo!! They will never get it because they’ve never had to deal with the numerous stigmas and racism held against black and brown people. Taylor is a good artist, but we can’t sit here and act like her privilege didn’t play a part in her success.
@@ToniBryanneTV exactly!!!
@@ToniBryanneTV
So was this a video on Taylor Swifts white privilege advancing her career, or a video on Taylor Swift being over exposed!
I think the video would have to be factually correct in order to say privilege played apart.
Otherwise as it sits now, the video not being correct with actual facts, and it of course leads to it not being presented in a fair way, because everything that you omitted and some of the emphasis that you added on certain things like how many times, Taylor Swift’s parents were able to travel to Tennessee, like to try to present them that they were just so wealthy that they could do that is leading the viewers to think exactly that. When it’s not really true. Her mom didn’t hand out CDs to record labels. Her mom drove up and down music row, and Taylor Swift at 11 years old, handed out the CDs that she made herself. They didn’t have any inns with anybody. That’s what people do all the time that go to music row. There’s actually documentaries on it of tons of country, artist, etc. who go to music row and do exactly what Taylor Swift did, were they all privileged. So you can see how there’s this almost looks like this effort to present it the way you just said in your comment. So that would be misleading. Just like leaving out the fact that West and Kim lied because if you research that it’s kind of impossible not to also come about the fact that the real audio came out which proved Taylor Swift wasn’t lying, and Westin Kim work. It’s really weird that West was under Braun twice under his label. So isn’t that weird. Here we have West both times interacting with swift, almost trying to railroad or derail her career. And he was under Scooter Braun. Sounds kind of fishy to me..
There wasn’t any misunderstanding with Taylor Swift’s contract. Her team initiated many conversations on purchasing her masters. They would never say no. But they would never put a cash offer up there. OK so no cash offer, but yet you don’t want to tell her no . Why not? Why not just say it wouldn’t be in my best interest as a businessman to sell you your masters. Because that would’ve been the right way. Because big machine records, the revenue, who is 80% Taylor Swift. So why don’t you just say I can’t sell you your masters because you’re 80% of the business. No better person to understand it than her dad right Mr. financer right that’s what he did for a living. He would’ve definitely understood where Horchata was coming from. But they wouldn’t give an answer. They weren’t asking them to tell them who are you going to sell it to. Either say no we’re never gonna be able to make a deal for you to purchase your masters so she could just get it out of her head but yet when she goes to leave and tells them she’s going to sign with somebody else all the sudden on D-Day. They’re offering her this to resign. Let’s do another contract and you can earn back the masters that you’ve already created once that we’ve made hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars off of, you can earn them back. By giving us one new album and will give you one old album know that’s what she said no. But my point is why didn’t they put that offer out on the table when her team of lawyers were trying to negotiate some sort of purchase. I can tell you why. Because they let her hang out there with this hope that if they didn’t say no yet that maybe there was still hope that she could purchase them. And they thought when it got down to DJ that she would be so desperate to own her masters and keep them said they would get her to sign another contract. In the meantime people need to remember one these two men were already negotiating a deal. And Scott Porchetta knew she couldn’t stand him. So not only would he have under masters he would’ve found her for the next however, long time track the sign for it. So if we’re really gonna tell the story, let’s tell the story.
@@ToniBryanneTVif white privileges is everything than tell why katy perry, avril lavinge, kesha carrear ended short.
All do u talk abt how beyonce, Michael Jackson etc are nepotism babies and had it easy in industry compared to Swift who went door to door dropping her music cds.
If white privileges are so strong than why Taylor Swift was cancelled in 2016 and America fall out of love for her.
I’m not a diehard swiftie but I would consider myself somewhat of a fan of hers, and tbh saying that she’s famous because she’s white and most of her fans are white is really discrediting her work. I am an immigrant Hispanic 20 something year old woman whose first language is Spanish and I still enjoy her music more than Beyoncé’s or many Latina ‘it girls’ of the moment like Karol G, Becky G, etc. Playing the race card all the time is really getting tiring. People of all different backgrounds and ages like her music and that is the real reason why she is popular. Beyoncé is not less commercially successful than Taylor swift ‘because she’s black’, her music just isn’t as captivating to others. It’s so annoying to always hear the race excuse when it’s really not the case. While Beyonce is obviously extremely talented, her music is not as relatable/captivating to a broader audience and that is the truth.
In 31:09 where you talked about the “diversity” in Beyoncé’s concert, it was all black women shown so I’m not really sure what you mean. The argument that people mainly listen to artists who look like them makes no sense (in my opinion) unless you’re someone who looks up the race of an artist before you listen to them to make sure they look like you. This extreme Taylor hate really has to stop fr 😭
The unnecessary hate Taylor Swift gets is so ridiculous, she really is living in people's heads rent free lol. Taylor would have been just as famous without Kanye. I don't agree with or understand the narrative that she's only "this" famous because she got disrespected on TV, she was literally winning an award with a hit song so that narrative makes no sense, it boosted popularity but everything else was her. I think Taylor is as successful as she is because she is very intelligent business wise, & bc of her music. I guess the credit also goes to PR team as well lol, she's just one of those people with star power as they call it.
I genuinely think she's a talented writer & great with storytelling.. if you haven't heard songs like "no body, no crime" among many others, you wouldn't see it if you only heard the generic songs. There's different ways to be talented musically. You can be great at writing, producing but not at singing/ dancing. Maybe you can't sing well, or write but you can entertain on stage very well etc. Which is why it's not fair to compare her to other artist, because they're ALL different, Although a lot of big artist are overrated in my opinion. It is what it is.
EDIT: You didn't mention how in Kim Kardashians so called "evidence video" that TS was lying, was actaully edited with this whole time, Taylor's released the real audio / story years ago.
She won that award questionably tho cuz she later lost an award w the same video against the same person they gave video of the year for. If bey has the video of the year award, why is she losing best female to the same nominee she won best video for? They HAD to throw her a bone…. Why?
@@itzcandy5896 Not really, The same artist are typically nominated in many similar categories at the same shows, it happens. Beyonce wasn't lacking when it came to awards so it wasn't like she really was cheated. I remember at the time that yes Beyonce's video was very big but so was Taylor's.
Yea, I think this video also didn’t acknowledge that she was very grassroots in building her fan base. I remember back in the day reading that she was all over twitter and tumblr socializing with fans like she was a regular user on the site, and she hosted private parties for years specifically for fans she found online. People are so invested in her because her team made it look like she returned the investment on a personal level. She took parasocial relationships to the next level and it resulted in 17 years worth of adolescent girls feeling like she’s their best friend. They’re rabid because her marketing has led them to believe they truly know her.
The hate does seem excessive at times, I can’t lie.
Go cry about it she is not that talented she became famous from her families wealth
I’m not a swiftie but I do like her and I genuinely loooooove lots of her songs. Seven off the folklore album is a really deep one to me that hits close to home. All the swifties I know love her because they love her lyrics and relate to them
Are you sure it’s not because she’s a white woman ??? 😂😂
Babe you are white
Your a swifty this comment didn't do anything, no motion. The BUT validate everything we need to know about your comment.
@@curiousstar66 I’m genuinely not lol I own none of her merch and would never pay to go to a concert of hers. Swifties worship her
@@savannam7961you can be a fan without being extreme, if you like her and her music, you're a swiftie🤷♀️
Beyonce this Beyonce that but I dont see you guys talking about how Beyonces parents helped her to pursue her career as well, it's only a problem when is Taylor lmao
People like that are just racist, they will grab any straws they can to attack a person for being white.
(Ps. this is coming from a POC)
What Kanye did was wrong but her music wasn't on the Beyonce level at least not at that time. She started to peak with red.
Every time people talk about beyonces success people always reference her parents... Where have you been?😅
I feel like some of the backlash in the comments to this video might be dismissed as “crazy swifties”, but I don’t think that’s it at all. I’m not a swiftie, not even a casual fan, but even I can see that she isn’t popular purely because she’s tall and white and people want to save her.
She’s very talented. She can’t sing as well as a lot of other artists, but many people who listen to music aren’t looking for the perfect most polished voice. She’s a very talented songwriter, and she’s been incredibly savvy when it comes to creating a community that is invested in her.
The other thought I had, is if Beyoncé did an “era’s tour” no way it wouldn’t be plastered all over everything and just as or more successful than Taylor Swift’s tour. Why the comparison? They’re different artists that do different things.
I get the video essay format, but this didn’t come across to me as a deep dive or a thoughtful retrospective on a topic, but more like a petty take down, which is unfortunate, because the tone took away from any good points you may have had.
In general I’m not a fan of bringing down one thing to lift the other up. Beyoncé’s awesome, and successful and from what I see, considered pretty much a goddess. Taylor swift doesn’t need to suck for Beyoncé to be great.
It’s a compilation tour which is part of why it is so exiting for us fans to see Eras. People want to see Beyoncé sing with Destiny’s Child again. They liked the Super Bowl because it spanned her career.
i'm not a swifty at all i like like less than 10 songs, but the girl can write. it's basically poetry
I keep hearing stuff like this but no one ever gives a line/verse of what she wrote that dropped jaws. I listen to her music, it’s like story telling but I’ve never seen her lyrics to be ground breaking.
@@melinatedthinka8210listen to her Folklore album from 2020…. Lyrics are incredible. Songs touch your soul. I recommend watching the Folklore long pond sessions (UA-cam or Disney +), where she explains each track and sings them live
You know her music isn’t horrible. But to say she’s a poet is wild imo. Have you ever listed to hozier? That’s a mainstream artist that’s writes straight poetry
@@melinatedthinka8210listen to Dear John best song she ever wrote
@@melinatedthinka8210 facts
Im glad everyone is calling out the flaws in this vid. You're obviously not aware of the entire Kanye/Taylor stuff because you didnt mention that the full version was released and no where did she approve the line "that bitch"
The hype is too much 🥱🙄
Yeah she’s too overhyped and when I said I think her fans overhyped her ofc a “swiftie” got angry at me (lol)
@@abbied her fan hate the truth 🤣🤣
I feel like she is privileged but her lyrics and her relatability is like no other, Taylor is a phenomenon.
Hmm there’s so many artists that write lyrics like her but get overlooked for Taylor swift. She’s not really a lyrical genius but her success and effort is impressive
To understand her lyrical “genius”, you’d need to listen, and think about, albums like Evermore and Folklore (and not just the singles).
Swift has a mastery of simile, metaphor, imagery and her work abounds with double meanings (multiple interpretations). I’ve seen a number of rappers, once they’ve actually listened to deep cuts, come to respect her for her “pen game”.
In short, even if her music isn’t for you, there’s a reason many people are beginning to refer to her as a poet and classes about her work are popping up in universities.
@@JenniferDomitrovits-xu9df LMAOO She does things other artist do yet they getoverlooked for her. Taylor swift being white and her privileges is why she is the way she is and why she's popular like look at what people are saying with Beyonce and Taylor swift, it proves that! I've listened to her albums and her music is great but saying she is a lyrical genius, comparing her to Michael Jackson, schools having classes about her doing things others do along with calling her the best artist is doing the most. Taylor swift is the best trending and popular artist nothing more plus majority of her fanbase is white so its no shock every swiftie in the comments is acting up.
She’s white let’s be real that’s her appeal
@@0fficialselena__90 Also she uses a lot of co-writers, and is likely credited with lyrics that aren't hers at least part of the time.
the most bizarre thing to me really is the whole conversation about how the "media" should leave taylor alone when it comes to dating, but little girls now know the rules of football because taylor is dating a player.. who exactly is obsessed with her dating life again?
The Tortured Poets album did 1.9 million in a week.
Beyoncé has all of her solo albums debut at number one and has never come close to that.
Speaking numbers only.
That 1989 record is an absolute bop for me. Lol that's how I was introduced to her. Haven't listened to a whole album since, though.
Let’s be honest, Taylor is where she is because of the way she looks. If she were stouter, had brown hair, brown eyes, and was slightly overweight she wouldn’t be Taylor Swift. She fits the prototype of the “trophy” perfectly, and that’s why she’s as successful as she is.
Your name fits you
@@Kitty-ld8ci Duh.
everything is not abt race grow up i am from india here we have taylor themed parties and see the other asian countries how they treat her i dont see beyonces ball rooom or culture here
There are A LOT of things you’re not considering in your opinion of Taylor vs Beyoncé tour income. Taylor writes ALL her own music so the royalty payments for performing her music are next to nothing compared to other artists. The amount of time the headliner is actually performing, the size of the stadiums AND the amount of shows are all very important. Beyoncé is doing 56 shows and Taylor Swift has 152!! Beyoncé is doing 1/3 the amount of shows. That’s the reason her tour isn’t making as much. Beyoncé is just as idolized by white people where as Taylor Swift isn’t idolized by as many black people. The income difference on their tours has nothing to do with skin color. It’s bc of many business decisions they made differently. I think both of these women are amazingly talented but not comparable bc they have different strengths, none having to do with their race.
The fact that she didn’t even consider the basic factors that you mentioned shows how poorly researched this video is.
A simple Google search will show u Taylor Swift was literally the best selling artist in 2008 in US before Kanye jumping on the stage in 2009 lol she's literally brought Country Music to the mainstream public even Asian countries love her country music lol
She was not well known to the masses. Most Black people did not know who Taylor swift was love 😂maybe younger girls did, but THAT put her on the map for sure. I’m not discrediting her past achievements. I literally mentioned them in the video .
That’s exactly the problem that you don’t want acknowledge that Beyoncé fan base is almost only black people, but there is more market apart from that for example I’m in Latinoamérica and we know about Beyoncé but Taylor is much bigger, just Brazil and Mexico audience makes a really big markets, don’t like comparisons but black community are continuously making less other artists as Koreans, Latin, Europe, how do you pretend have our support, I like Beyoncé but I think her time already past, and is normal all decades have different artists, another thing how do do you pretend have the support of other women if you body shaming another one, please let the argument who has better body, because their real problem is why many of your important men are married with white and Latin women
@@ToniBryanneTVthe world doesn't revolve around black people.
@@ToniBryanneTV maybe you should talk about yourself
A lot of black people knew Taylor back then, including me and I'm not even from America
Stop hating, life is too short for so much hate for someone who don't know you and would never know you
When you live this world try not to be remember as someone who spread hate but love
And what analysis you think you've on her is rubbish
@@ToniBryanneTV lol so some Black people don't know her that obviously make her not well known? weirdo.
I don't even know Kanye west existed until he jumped on that stage lol
Loving the light brown highlights ❤
Thank you!! I think I want to do even more next time around 🫢
I love watching the long videos while doing something, please do a lot more.
Will do! Thank you for your support 💗
Same!! Thank you @ToniBryanneTV ❤️
As Aretha Franklin said when asked about Taylor Swift: great gowns, beautiful gowns…
girl i would choose taylor singing over Aretha any day, what black people has to understand is that not veryone has the same taste as you people, as an Asian, we find Taylor's voice soothing and not terrifying and you would hardly find likeable black artist these days, with the oversexualized music they do
@@eirannahmason3616 facts girl. A lot of blacks seem to hate Taylor taking the limelight away from them and we are just so sick of it. Screaming with their bog voices, rapping with lyrics that a child shouldnt be hearing, dressed like a hooker, these kind of art will not fly in other key markets of the world. At least the girl with the beautiful gown gives us something to listen to and she is really enjoyable to watch. Facts. You all shade, we dont do thatm we just spit facts.
@@filippyknow you're so embarrassing
@@somuchjoy7898 oh girl no, if there is anyone embarassing its all you haters. When people throw the same crap at you people, you all act like you didnt say anything offensive. Lol. At least Taylor can fit in gowns lol
@@filippyknowI hope you're getting paid to spam the comments because I promise Taylor and her bank account don't care about her "haters" 😂
😅This video stumbles in the first 30 seconds suggesting Swift's popularity dipped for a few years. Mainstream media/social media did become more critical of her after the phone call incident, but the perception that her popularity waned is an illusion. It just isn’t reflected in the numbers. She’s been on an untouchable commercial run since 'Fearless' in 08 and it still hasn’t slowed down. In fact it’s sped up.
The VMA incident in '09 did gain Swift new visibility with those unfamiliar, but the reality is, Swift was already outpacing both Beyoncé and Kanye commercially a year before that. Think about that. She was still on the come up as a teen country singer and was already outselling household names 🤯
The phone call drama shifted the social media narrative about Swift, but it was too late, the fans were already locked in. By the time the Big Machine masters debacle shifted the media in her favour again, Swift had already proved she would remain commercially untouchable whether she was a media darling or not. When the media spotlight began dimming on artists like Katy Perry, her fair-weather fans didn’t stick around. Taylor’s did. That’s the difference. I don’t think the industry comparisons to MJ or Bey are that crazy, because the industry goes where to the money is, and Swift brings in record-breaking amounts of money.
That’s because we like her music. When people attack her our taste in music is attacked.
Her re recording her music was a boss move. I've always liked her but that made respect her much more. I haven't been to her tour yet. But I saw the movie. It was good. It is a production. I like her music. She works really hard. She deserves it. She made big machine.
i'm a swiftie but yes she isn't the best vocalist but she has improved over the years. i honestly don't care how much money her parents already had beforehand it's not the kid's fault that their parents have money. every fandom is the same as swifties it's just she gets talked about more than any other artist which when i was growing up it was beyoncé. if you can put on a show, write your songs, improve on your vocals overtime that's good enough for me.
So exactly how are people protecting Taylor Swift since West made a fool out of himself and put two women in awkward positions!
He actually belittled Beyoncé by thinking he had to speak for her.
She has been in the business since she was very very young. With the full support of her parents.. ( like TS! )
And no they didn’t have the connections with record labels. When TS convinced her mom and dad to go to Tennessee, it was her and her mom and sometimes her brother.
TS made those CD’s which were covers to Dolly Parton and I believe Shania Twain or Faith Hill songs. And it was TS, who handed them out on Music Row . Like thousands and thousands of other people have. Her mother and brother would wait in the car, she would hand it out and introduce herself. Then they would go on to the next one!
As for Big Machine there wasn’t a Big Machine when Borchetta walked into the Blue Bird Cafe , saw Swift and approached her and her parents.
Letting them know he wasn’t with Universal any longer and was going to open his own label. But could t yet because he didn’t have the financial backing but he was working on it. He asked her if she would wait and sign with him. 2 weeks later TS herself called and said she would wait!
So this entire, picture that I people. keep attempting to paint about her parents buying their daughters way in via money and knowing record labels and people and buying part of the company that barely had enough money to get off the ground , hence her father investing which gave more financial security for it to get off the ground… is basically just that .. an attempt to paint a false narrative.
Which has been going on for years!!!
Weird though how West just kept inserting himself in her career!
Braun…lots of pop stars under him.
West under Braun
TS. taking over year after year, that sphere of fans in pop!
Hmmmm … interesting !!
Taylor Swift was 80% of Big Machines Assets/Revenue when she decided to walk! That’s A Lot !!!!
Kinda makes you go hmmmm 🤔
I feel like the media is planting this idea of Taylor being a phenomenon more than she actually is. Taylor is nothing but a hype machiene with a few bops here & there.
Because she's a phenomenon, be naturally or be a result of hype. Media reflects the general public.
lady, this is your job, atleast do your research properly......15 mins in and there are already discrepancies in your story and ALOT of them.... I'm in no way a swifty but T Swift's influence is much much huge around the world than alot of y'all give her credit for.... please do your job properly lmaooo
Haven't watched video yet but am so excited for it. Was discussing TS with my research team at lunch yesterday and the men were saying she only became a mega star in the past 6 months since dating that football/basketball player (idk who is he lol I'd never heard of him since before TS). Like the disrespect tying a woman's success to a man. Like she hasn't been a successful pop star for idk 15+ years and always had a really strong fanbase. I'd say she only skyrocketed to the relevancy of people worrying she could influence elections in the past 2 years but she's had lots of moments. But already seeing all the other comments yes she's had a lot working in her favour to get her where she is
And those men are on a RESEARCH TEAM?!? Lord help us all!
Lmfao Taylor been selling out stadiums that her boyfriend and his team wish they could that isn’t attached to the Super Bowl 😂😂
I never got the hype with her and don’t care for her music. I just don’t get it 🤷🏼♀️ to me she’s the same as any other average singer.
Per the comments her song writing abilities is amazing
@@TheFallonCarringtonsongwriting is amazing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that is one of the funniest things I have ever seen on UA-cam
People are not comparing her to MJ.
The only thing that was mentioned involving MJ, Elvis, and the Beatles was crowd wise not talent!
Which someone took and of course twisted it and all the other puppets who wanted to just repeat it instead of looking for the original source where this info came from.
But by repeating a lie they could get more traffic to their channels by saying in their thumb nail.
“TS is being compared to MJ “
So that’s, that!
She is totally over hyped! Same 3-4 Mid songs for 20 years now.
I also low key love how you spend the whole time talking about she is famous because she is white but then had to be like maybe that is not the reason when you bring up how no other white women has the success of Beyoncé or Taylor. Also love how you did not mention a single reason why her fans love her like the fact that she makes relatable music, donates a lot of money, and have special connections with fans even going as far as having them at her house.
Not to mention the uncovering of her jet usage and her carbon emissions smh 🤦🏾♀️
Jay-Z and Beyonce use their jet even more😂 Since y'all insist on comparing the two.
@@XEveryoneLovesEmilyX I don’t discriminate boo all the celebrities can get it 😭
beyonce and jey z are literally the second in those lists lmao
@@nyacash9456 You seem to be the only one. I never see anyone talk about them. It's always Taylor.
Jet usage? How should she travel, commercial? Do you know how much chaos and security risk this will put other people in?
8:14 saying taylor wasn't really known at the time when in fact she is winning a "fan voted" award is crazy + she is already known globally especially in SE Asia"Love Story" and "You Belong With Me" is like a national anthem here for e.g. in the Philippines.
but it's still american award show back in 2009. she wasnt anywhere near that famous as other nominated people - Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Pink, Katy Perry...
@@Nicole-ep1vt yet she still won the fan voted award 🤷
@@guyswiftie9033 winning a fan voted award doesnt mean you are famous and everyone knows you. Philippines, you mentioned, are world voting super power. If they voted i’m sure she won, but does it make her more famous in US? No
@@Nicole-ep1vt are you from SE Asia??? if not ,then do some research yall so ignorant. Yall cant accept that she's actually bigger than your faves even before lmao
@@guyswiftie9033 lol nope 😅 back in 2009 she just wasnt that famous i dont know why it’s so hard for you to accept that. Everyone had to start somewhere.
10:24 gross. Why is he bringing his mom into this? Such garbage.
bc kanye is garbage
no more garbage than you and all the Kardashians @@greentearain
How come you didn't talk abou when the whole phone call got released and backed her story?
Kanye was her blessing in disguise. If that didn’t happen I sincerely believe her career wouldn’t have skyrocketed that way.
Not necessarily… the next album she released after the Kanye incident didn’t really have any huge hits and doesn’t rank among her most popular. It wasn’t until she switched to more pop sounds that her career began to sky rocket again
You are wrong!!!! Taylor has been famous for so long here in Asia even before that Kanye Shit happened. I still remember when I was in elementary schools when here You Belong With Me and Love Story Songs became hits.
@@CarlosFernandez-hm2xpIn other words “she sold out”
@@jayjaysummer6125No sweetie she became globally recognized after she went pop (it’s a known fact)
@@jayjaysummer6125Country music isn’t that big outside of America, besides “Taylor Swift” what other country artists do you know of or listen to? (I will be impressed if you can answer this question btw)
I think you missed a key point in your analysis. Beyoncé has been slowly moving away from the music industry for years. Her last solo independent pop album was Lemonade in 2016, combined with her last tour (The Formation World Tour), then 2 years later, in 2018, she released an album with Jay-Z, which was not as successful as Lemonade in terms of global recognition. Later she released a live album and a Lion King album in 2019, and in 2022 she made her real comeback with Renaissance, which is very different in sound and vibe from what's popular at the moment (not saying it's bad, it's just very unique and it doesn't necessarily appeal to the great masses of pop listeners), and now she's out with Cowboy Carter. Between 2016 and 2022 a lot has changed in the pop scene in general.
On the other hand, Taylor has been rising since the release of Folklore and Evermore in 2020, when she started really showcasing her songwriting skills and embraced an aesthetic that was popular during lockdown. Then she did interviews, Disney specials, performances, she went deep into talking about her songwriting process and the stories she created for the albums, she really marketed that new phase of her career. After that, she announced she would be re-recording her albums with additional songs never heard before ("tracks from the vault"). She released Fearless TV and Red TV in 2021 and Midnights in 2022, along with a bunch of music videos, special guests, new content, etc. The combination of all of it led to a massive tour that appeals to literally everyone. New fans, old fans, lockdown fans, people who liked Folklore/Evermore and didn't have a chance to watch those songs live, people who loved her teen girly songs but were too young to go to a concert back in the day, people who bought tickets to see her Lover tour that was canceled due to the pandemic, literally everyone. Also, through re-releasing old albums, she made her teen songs popular again for a whole new generation of young girls who possibly never heard them. And lastly, in 2023, during her tour, she released 2 deluxe versions of Midnights, Speak Now TV, and 1989 TV.
So, skills and controversies aside, Beyoncé is not as relevant now due to the fact that she took a fairly big break from her solo pop career, and in the meantime, Taylor has been consistently releasing content and marketing herself since 2020 non-stop. As of now, she just released a double album. In terms of personal lives, Beyoncé is married to a huge rapper who has also stepped away from the industry, with his last solo album being released in 2017, and they have children who are also out of the spotlight for the most part; while Taylor appeals to a younger audience as a "single" woman who just started dating a famous football player, still goes out a lot, still drinks a lot, she's still seen out with a lot of famous friends who are currently popular, such as Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds, Lana del Rey, Gigi Hadid, etc. So, to compare them, you have to also consider the full context of both of their careers and the context of the pop scene currently.
i am neither white or black i am indian
but i can say that you are really trying to play victim card too much
and about the fact that taylor is white and attracts white audience is not bad you are making it out to be race related when it is not
you really need to accept the fact that black people are minorities in their country not majority which means there are more white people than black people thus those white people will idolise white artists more .
that is not racism that's phycology. you relate to people that look like you
i dont really like beyonce that much i dont really like her music i like taylors more and that my personal opinion
but you saying that you shouldn't compare them both while saying that beyonce is much better is just your bias for that black artists and it is hypocrite
indians tend to side with whites and are also anti-black-so your comment is not shocking. Beyonce sounds better vocally-she can also play piano and guitar but the whites ditched her after she started the pro black stuff. I like Taylor swift but if she was not white, she souldn't be idolized...one thing about her she keeps her image clean.
The amount of people defending everything about her in the comments is so unreal lol
People can’t see through anything anymore, just what they want to see
Actually disappointed in this video because I think you are contributing to how women pit other women against each other. I think that Beyonce and Taylor can both be talented women, even though I am actually not a huge Beyonce fan. I think instead of focusing on who is better and more deserving, we can celebrate both of their accomplishments and celebrate the fact that these two women were able to make this happen for themselves in their own ways.
While I do believe that Taylor's race has contributed to her success, I don't believe that is the only reason that she is successful. She is, like Beyonce, a smart business woman, manages to stay relevant and talented (though people don't want to give her credit for it). There is no rule that someone has to be a talented actress, dancer, and singer to be deserving of that level of success. I think picking on Taylor for her past relationships (PR or not), and stating that she is only successful because she is white is doing a disservice. She is a good songwriter, composer, plays multiple instruments, knows how to engage her audience and fans, is philanthropic, and does it all while making sure to lift up others and handling criticism with grace.
Give credit where credit is due.
I think that the way people idolize both of them is ridiculous because they are performers not goods but this felt like the same argument that has been rehashed. I usually love your videos and think they are really insightful but the way that this video leaned on comparing her to another successful woman and dressing all of that up because "Taylor's successful because she's white," is nothing that we haven't heard a million times before. You have also been incredibly defensive and dismissive to anyone who disagrees in the comments. Actually disappointed and will be describing, not because I disagree with your opinion, but because I dislike the way in which you tackled this issue and are responding to those who don't agree.
This is coming from a young black woman that can acknowledge that both women are successful and doesn't feel the need to make everything under the sun about race. We have enough of that shit as it is. Why create more issues where there are none?
She did give credit to Taylor it must flew over your head when you started thinking of rebuttals
Yess yess yess I agree to your comment. Taylor is a lyrical genius and my question is why is Taylor being viewed as overhyped? If people thought this about Beyoncé they’d go crazy. I’m actually a bigger Taylor Swift fan than Beyoncé. I think her music is beautiful and truly one of a kind. I’m not a fan of Beyoncé at all and I don’t listen to her music. Now her old music was different but this new stuff she’s doing isn’t it at all. Plus people worship her and that’s creepy.
@@eirannahmason3616girl no. Clearly in the video you missed the part where she put two pictures of them side by side and literally said that majority of Taylor’s fan base is middle school and high school girls. Which is clearly invalid 😂 She said in her video how is Taylor’s tour being sold out more than Beyoncé’s. Clearly she started comparing the two in the video.
@katythebeauty330 I did not miss anything. I watched the whole video. I mean, did she lie, tho? Stop getting all defensive 💯.
@@eirannahmason3616 So when someone makes an invalid statement and calls them out that’s called being defensive?
U act like..ur soooo rightous??? & Knows everything about taylor swift Posting verses about God then..u criticized taylor swift..
Theres nothing wrong pursuing dreams woman shes so lucky her parents.. support her all the way..❤️
Thanks for chiming in! It's cool how we all see things differently, right?
Beyonce and Taylor are BOTH killing it. And both Taylor and Beyonce fans typically cross over. When I saw the era's tour there was adults, teens kids, every race. They are both QUEENs. Beyonce is the BEST performer out there and Taylor is the BEST songwriter. They are both queens and dear friends. There is no comparison just love for both wonderful amazing women who are wonderful and talented. I am a fan of both love the queens.
Taylor Swift was much better when she was a country music artist in the late 2000s/early 2010s! Now she's just full-blown pop for the "basic white girls". The only song I know from her post-country era is the "Starbucks Lovers" one... 🤣🤣🤣
I like Taylor Swift's music, but I feel like without her massive fan base she wouldn't be as big as she is now. I enjoyed hearing about the start of her career though
Your statement is obvious! An Artist becomes famous because of fan base. That's how it works! 😂
She has Massive fanbase because they like her music 😂 is ur brain in ur knee? Is it Taylor problem that we don't like beyonce music?
Ehh not a fan of this video at all. Taylor Swift is popular because she’s a lyrical genius. She can write music and she’s great at songwriting. There are only a few artists that are that good at songwriting and only a few artists that can activate emotions while listening to their songs. Her songs just bring you to a different world and I feel like she is so empathetic and makes music for the hopeless romantics etc. Most of her songs can bring you back to a memory or time within your love life or etc. For me as a black woman I want to hear love songs. I want to hear romantic, profound, dreamy songs that can bring you to a different element. With today’s music that is 99.9% over sexualized or talking about violence or money it feels nice to have music that can have a calm, intimate, positive, or sad moment. Her songs are the types that you can listen to and it can perfectly word what you thought about in the past. Now yes her parents did help her which I view as a blessing because it showed that their hard work was deserved. Also she makes many albums that continue to be masterpieces. She has a business side as well and was able to own her albums which is definitely a boss move that many artists don’t take. I feel like people try to find ways to bash her and they fail to give credit where it is due. Her music will be iconic for years to come.
She’s hardly a lyrical genius. Let’s chill.
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@@JelissaGonzalez-bv7crgo listen to her 2020 albums. You sound clueless
A lyrical genius is positively comical!!!!
@@James-ho4sgWE did. Definitely not a musical genius.
I know some artist fall off or stop making music but I find it interesting how the big names from the 2010’s have faded away and she’s still on top.
Rihanna, Bruno mars, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Adele etc are all better and more interesting pop stars to me
That's your opinion but why did they stop writing music? Taylor is consistent and versatile that's why she's even the most popular American Artist here in Asia
She’s not talentless but she’s not as talented as her fans say she is. I think it boils down too:
She’s the ideal yt standard of beauty
She’s relatable not aspirational. Her lyrics are relatable but her flaws/lack of certain talent is also relatable, thus she’s a self insert for her fans. She’s literally “y/n” in every way
America loves an underdog story. Someone to root for. Besides race, Beyoncé isn’t an underdog talent wise, she came out the gate swinging. Like you said, Taylor is often the victim therefore people want to protect her therefore when she wins people celebrate like the unlikely protagonist in a movie.
That last black guy doing the TikTok video is sooo fun😂 love him
i don't support taylor and travis' relationship at all but i think it's not really her fault if the nfl wants to use her so much
The relationship is a pr stunt (I hope you agree with me on this) it’s moreso pr for Travis Kelce though (I had no idea who he was before this and his mum went on a morning talk show promoting her own cookbook during this “relationship”) now the only question is does Tay know that Trav’s just using her? 😥
And is “The Tortured Poets Department” going to be all about dissing Joe? (Even the name of the album itself is a dig at him) 😭
@@abbied Girl, come on. Before they started dating, Travis is considered one of the best football players of his generation. He has plenty of money and one of the more popular players in the NFL. He has his own clout, he doesn't need to be using her for any reason.
@@alyssamehnert5447 I didn’t know who he was before this but I don’t watch football (so you know) I knew who the Kansas City Chiefs were and ofc their star quarterback Patrick Mahomes however on this year’s Super Bowl the spotlight was all on Travis because he’s dating Taylor they even took the focus off of Patrick who’s one of their mvps and I don’t like Travis after seeing him treat his coach like that (I was with him up till that point) I think I’ll go with my boy Patrick instead of Travis Kelce
@@alyssamehnert5447 Not too much Taylor will realize about Travis soon enough (maybe she’s a foolish woman but I don’t think she’s stupid by any stretch of the imagination)
constantly shown on the NFL? she was shown for less than 1 minute, 48 seconds to be precise. She was NOT shown as much as those crybabies claim
the kids I work with that are ages 6-13 are consistently OBSESSED w her... like boys and girls too
It’s kid safe music and that’s great to me.
Not jack guylenhall 💀
America has too many sweethearts this is getting out of hand
I like Taytay but her fans are seriously ANNOYING. I liked her pre/post-1989 fans better. At least, we were chill.
Your missing a few marks here,
- Her fans are not just "young girls"
-Travis didn't help boost her fame, try the other way around.
-Swifties aren't racist, and you kinda painted them that way
Taylor's fame is complex and intriguing. Pre good vid but you stand very far sided on certain topics
Never said her fans were just young girls lol, I said a lot of them are. Never said Travis boosted her fame, I actually said she boosted his fame. Lastly, never called all her fans racist. I was speaking on the racist fans.
@@ToniBryanneTV And again, you stand very far sided on certain topics. You've replied to a few of my comments before and it's never to discuss the topic.
I wasn't rude. I said good vid but had a few points from my perspective. As a creator - shouldn't you want to know how your viewers perceive what you say?
I encourage you to be more open to the opinions of others.... especially your subscribers
I corrected what you said. You were wrong and that’s okay lol. I’m open to everyone’s opinions, but if it’s blatant lies and falsifications, I will stand on that. Have a blessed day
@@ToniBryanneTVagain, as a creator, shouldn’t you want to know how your viewers perceive your videos?
i’m a subscriber but i think i’m done. been here for a bit and every time I have an opinion you don’t agree with, you fire back telling me i’m wrong. no thoughts just i’m wrong lmfao
go ahead and tell me i’m wrong for having an opinion, that’ll get you very far.
have a BLESSSSED DAY
@@soapsp girl you commented on ONE other video and you blatantly said I was condoning a rap**t. Like wtf? Your allegations are always WILD tf I look like saying omg yes you’re so right 🥺 if you’re unhappy with my content, then go😂 stop making up lies and maybe you won’t get a response like this
I really do think Beyoncé makes better music for her demographic. But Taylor Swift is a Marketing Genius. That Swift/Kelce/NFL Colab was historic. Touring during a Super Bowl Run to see your “boyfriend” play and allowing fans to be around you was Epic. That’s one thing Beyonce and Jayz will not do. They partied with actual fans in all the cities including mine, which is Baltimore. That’s a play out of Michael Jackson’s playbook.
I feel like this video is extremely biased
Shame on you Toni! You really had to bring up Beyoncé and compare them both! Shame on you!
Ppl been doing it all over TikTok white women started doing it for no reason. I think Toni is just talking about trending topics
@@dianasohn2515 Shame!
I have had multiple convos with my sister about this. We are so confused why Taylor gets a pass for any critique. Sure she built a pretty talented discography and we agree recording her songs is pretty great, but not so great that she isn't allowed to be critiqued. Like artists get critiqued all the time and no one should be automatically immune to that even if there was some terrible things done to her in the past.
Wtf are you talking about lmao, I see everyone hating on her lately
First off, i recently discovered your channel, and I really love the way you break these topics down to bite size pieces for those of us listening. Secondly, yes, I do believe Taylor is overrated. She's hyped up way more than necessary. Not to say she isn't talented, but the mentality that she can do nothing wrong is pretty disturbing. I have appreciated some of her past music, but now I just really don't get the hype. IMHO she just sounds like every other genaric singer out there, and Oliva Rodrigo (another overrated singer, i think personally) is able to easily replicate her exact sound, so i think that further supports that there isn't anything super star quality about her voice.
exactlyyyyy