The Early 2000s are BACK...But What Harsh Beauty Standards are They Bringing With Them??
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
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In this video, we're revisiting the early 2000s and asking the question: what harsh beauty standards are they bringing with them?? As we approach the year 2000, we're seeing a resurgence of the early 2000s. From the tons of negative press that the early 2000s received to the harsh beauty standards that were enforced at the time, we're asking: what happened and how did we get here?? I want to know your thoughts on this topic! Leave a comment below and let us know what you think.
Interviewee: Meagan Pravden (Instagram: @megprav)
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It’s so wild how the women who are degrading and judging don’t even fit their own damn standards.
Exactly my thoughts
The lady from the cheerleaders show?? I was confused
They don’t care to fit into the standards because they aren’t the ones being judged. It’s wild to see though.
The Robin story was really sad
And the cheerleaders. They're as already the tiniest women
The things those “judges” and “coaches” said to those girls was truly disgusting. I love that these old shows are being harshly criticized. And I hope those girls are doing well and they see the support being poured out that they deserved back then.
I also hope they love themselves, these women are gorgeous
Robin was gorgeous and not plus sized. If you keep calling a person fat or big why the hell would they be comfortable being themselves or doing a nude photo shoot? To hell with all of them on that judge panel for making a beautiful woman feel small.
Janice Dickinson aged poorly like her plastic surgery went bad so yea she got her karma back.
@ximenaduarte9181 And if you look at photos of Janice from the seventies and eighties, she was a very beautiful woman. Now, not so much.
Stocky? STOCKY?! What on earth? She was incredibly fit, professional and super sweet as well. That was so heart-breaking. They were basically telling she wasn't good enough because of her GENETICS 🥺
Well they didn't like her body fat distribution which she can't control they were so rude
When she said she would "hang upside down and stretch her legs if she could" it really hit home. Her body is perfect for cheerleading! A thut... seriously lady?!
Americans next top model was so toxic and and Tyra and the cast were disgusting to those models
Meagan, and you and your channel are beautiful. Why did these judges call Meagan staulky. I wish I had the strength Meagan showed in this video. Just because someone tells you the sky is green when it is blue. Thank you for your channel.
The crazy thing is I remember watching this in middle school and high school and as a cheerleader wanting to be a Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader and now know what I know I'm glad my mom steered me to college instead with my Dada constantly reminding me that my studies came 1st. Especially after finding out how much professional cheerleaders are paid.
Have you noticed it’s always bigger people criticizing them. It’s insane the hypocrisy.
Exactly! Those women and men have the issues. These shows are so weird and sad.
They're projecting their own insecurities onto them that they don't even fit into.
I came here to mention that. The heavy criticism could particularly come from jealousy l
These celebrities or thinner girls are literally minding their own business. Bigger people or people who can't obtain that physique are projecting their own insecurities.
I am naturally very thin and lanky. I feel like literally every single body type is celebrated besides ours. Some people truly believe that nobody is a size 0 naturally. I am that woman. 2 children, never worked out in my entire life, and I eat all junks and carbs. Not sure why they swear it is impossible to be this thin naturally. I am 5’5. I have never been above 110 in my life (unless pregnant) No supplements, no clean eating, no exercise. We do exist. Lol.
The Robin thing literally made me cry. SHE'S BEAUTIFUL!! Looks like a supermodel to me. I wouldn't even consider her plus size. Smh 🤦♀
Janice Dickinson is a rude nasty person. She’s also an addict so she has no room to judge people’s unhealthy eating as it’s the same beast. You can be addicted to sugar and gluten and processed foods in the same way you can be addicted to drugs. In fact sugar addiction operates in the same areas of the brain and functions like cocaine addiction and Gluten is actually an opiate with a withdrawal
Her body was literally amazing! That clip made me so mad.
Ikr if shes big then im morbidly obese at size 10!
So true, how sad. ❤.
The fact men call THAT obese or plus size is disturbing to me. Those little fuckin weirdos would call a measly 1 pound over obese and fat
Growing up in the 2000s was truly unforgiving
If I could go into a time machine and travel back ti any era in time, I would probably bypass the 2000s
Try the 80's and then hitting your 30's in the early 2000's! Double the fun! Bring back the 70's / 90's to slap back!
I was in middle school in 2000 and developed earlier than a lot of my classmates. I was so insecure about my size. It continued into high school. I was 5'4 and just under 110 pounds. One of my friends wrote in my yearbook "ps you're not 'fat' you just have hips". And that was literally it. I felt like crap because I had curvy hips for my body and that was definitely not in.
It really was. As a Millennial, to me this host is commenting on almost my same lived experience. We're not the prime generation anymore, so these kids are unfortunately learning the hard way, too. =(
Idk what you’re talking about it was pretty great. Better than this clown world now.
imagine being a kardashian and actually being able to change your whole body almost overnight in accordance to trends as if it’s that easy
Doubt it is easy for them. Kim’s over 40 now. They have plastic surgery and they’re using injected insulin for appetite control because it’s damn hard to get slim from thick ish
Skinny never stopped being a trend
yea if i had their money lol
They better not ruin my 90's-2000's days of style. Just talking the fashion trends not body trends, were like, the best. The Kardashians are oblivious to reality and I do not care they are getting backlash for causing so much harm and body dismorphia to the masses because of (overnight-almost) surgery.
Edit: I'm also more smaller bodied and it is wrong to glorify skinny or curvy hourglass bodies, etc. We all are different as women. No standard other than healthy should exist.
Khloe look weird being so thin because she's not built to be so thin.
I can’t believe the judges called Robyn “plus size”. She’s no where near a plus size, she was damn near skin and bones if it weren’t for the fact that she has flesh like ANY NORMAL HUMAN BEING IS SUPPOSED TO
Imagine picking an amazing dancer and then cutting her just because your male-gazed uniform doesn't fit all body types.... just change the uniform??? It's not like those uniforms are comfortable or ideal to dance in to begin with
Yep, it's an insult to their talent & hard work- tell us you just want eye candy, without telling us you just want eye candy. The way they were poking at the girls' bodies like they were pieces of meat was SICKENING, & the fact that it was other women dehumanising them like that is extra-gross. And when these girls are actually very slim, very fit & very pretty, & they're STILL "too fat"- ffs, they legit looked great in those male-gazey uniforms, but no.
Glad someone else thinks the cheer uniforms look male-gazed
A quick note, Robyn wasn’t uncomfortable posing nude on America’s next top model because of her size, it was because she was Christian and didn’t feel that posing nude was in line with her religious beliefs.
My two older sisters were in high school during the early 2000s and they recalled all the bullying/fat shaming they’d get everyday as girls with large hips and butts around the time it was in to be stick thin with large breasts. I can’t imagine going through that and later down the line watching your same body shape trending and imitated with BBLs
My exact experience in the early 90s: it was either heroin chic or stick thin with huge breasts, & me with my hips, butt & thighs being called fat when I was a healthy weight. A big butt was THE WORST thing you could have- I live somewhere white af in Australia, so the first I heard of anyone LIKING big butts was the "Baby Got Back" song, & I was SHOOK- & double-shook at my bf & the other guys saying "hell yeah!"... & then women like me became the ideal?!?! Make it make sense!! Luckily, never being beautiful means I've never based my worth on my looks, so I'm not heartbroken that I didn't get to grow up fitting the beauty standard a bit better- I'm grateful I could grow up pre-internet, one reason being we weren't bombarded 24/7 with women photoshopped to perfection. Traditional media was more than enough to make us think we were fat & ugly.
This was my experience but I was in my 20s when big butts were in so I feel grateful I was able to embrace it as a young adult. High schoolers are way to sexualized
so Janice bullied Robyn to the point where she closed up, then she said that she doesn't have the personality? ok.. this puts a lot of things into perspective
You can sum up most of the problems with ANTM with just Janice Dickinson alone. A very awful person and hypocrite on that show.
Yep, its so sad that as a child I would watch that show and shows like this at face value not catching the little details that revealed the hypocrisy and evil intentions of people.
Robyn was absolutely STUNNING and Janice, Tyra and all of those other judges can go to hell.
That Dallas Cowboys show is absolutely disgusting.
Also she didn't want to do the nude scene because she is a very religious woman....
I find it ironic Tyra calling another girl big when she herself has been called big by the media and she literally says interviews she stopped doing runway and stuff because of the pressure to be a certain body type yet there she was on tv doing exactly what people were doing to her I’m convinced top model was just Tyra putting girls through stuff she went through but worse so she can have the power this time
Tyra always claimed what she was doing was tough love for the standards, but she was generally just taking it and pushing it way harder onto the upstart models with not much critical thinking, and Janice Dickinson was just generally a nasty person.
Tyre was horrible. Antm was toxic and the winners never got z modeling contract
I dont think that's ironic at all. Tyra not fitting the standards doesn't change the standards, she was abiding by them by no longer doing runways and by telling models on her show that they didnt fit them.
Wanting grown women to look like little girls is so weird to me.
It’s pdfilia …
@@WhiteeeChocolate you know I don't think that's an exaggeration.
I think that the emphasis on "youth" in pop culture has not been scrutinized before...
But now we're at a point where we examine what this beauty standard entails.
When you starve yourself, I kid you not, you get something called functional amenorrhea. Basically your body turns off reproductive function in order to conserve metabolic ones required for survival.
Yes, this is a thing.
Yet somehow this is "pretty", why would prepubescent be pretty?
Please get your steak (Or vegan equivalent) 🥩 get your milk (almond's is🥛) get your fruits and veggies.
Exercise but never to a point where you burn it all out or even most of it. The goal here is to make you more active, not have you run out of fuel.
did you mean weird?
@@meow1ncorporated thx
They don’t look like little girls.
It was nice to see 90s fashion coming back for a while. When I think of the early 2000s, all I picture is black eyeliner so thick you could cosplay as a raccoon, extreme side parts, thick chunky highlights, low rise jeans with a 1-inch zipper and midriff between belly button and pubic bone showing, and everyone a size double zero.
Man I would’ve loved it if sizes were the same. Now everything only goes to size 2! I need 00 😭
@@Niabelxx I hadn't noticed. With sensory issues with autism, jeans are an absolute no for me. Only extra small yoga pants or leggings. But I meant that back then basically everyone was a size double zero and had zero curve to their body whatsoever. Then the late 2000's hit and everyone wanted butts.
@@neurodivergentpixi6736 yeah I have a naturally board like build in a world full of hourglasses
90s has been in fashion for the past 10 years stg, and wdym heroin chic aesthetic started in the 90s
@@Chillikilli op isn’t talking about heroin chic… this fashion style is what heroin chic evolved into. most aesthetics take inspiration and trends from other aesthetics, but they’re not the same.
I grew up in the 90s. Graduated in 2000. That period of time was brutal. I practically starved myself down to 130 lbs and still had hips and butt that I hated. Everyone was super thin. There was no social media so it was different. Im old now and idc lol
That is so sad :( please Love your body .hips and Butt are a Blessing
@@lg403 lol. I’m older now. I have a more realistic mindset. Plus people are buying my body type , for now lol
The early 2000s were brutal. The hip huggers alone... jeeze. But I am so, so, glad there was no social media when I was a teenager.
@@TheBrokeCyberWanderer I wore men's pants for years because the hip huggers were atrocious. Pants are worthless if you can't sit down without exposing your ass crack, which those jeans seemed specifically designed to do.
I’m a 43 white woman and “slim thick” aka hourglass/pear shape (5’3” w small boned w a bum and thighs) and it’s bizarre to me that my body type is/was trending. I did get moderate (350 cc) breast implants 8.5 years ago and that really put me into that slim thick body type….add to that I’m a mom of a teen boy, at “MILF point age wise. It’s wild. Growing up when I did I did not embrace my curves. I monitored my food intake & fought the curves hard to be honest. By age 35 you begin to accept your body & thank it for all it does for you day to day. By age 40 you truly feel “Fucc the standards and embrace the body you are in my friend.”
It’s scary that the there’s even a “beauty standard” to begin with, women of all sizes, colors, and shapes are beautiful
Not every one is beautiful 🤷🏾♀️
Agreed, I worked in a strip club, all the ugly ones were hired BEFORE they turned ugly
I remember being in my teens when being curvy was all the rage, and all my friends were using "All About That Bass" to shame me into feeling like less of a woman for not having any curves.
Now I'm in my mid twenties being interrogated about my diet and lifestyle cause I jumped from an XS to XL thanks to PCOS. Heroin chic is back in style and suddenly I'm too much of a woman. We women just can't seem to catch a break or do anything right.
I remember watching ANTM and wanting to look exactly like Robin when I grew up. It broke my heart hearing the judges say she was fat cause it made me think, “I should be skinner than that so people don’t think I’m fat” 😢
The horrible effects of how media can negatively program the minds of so many young women, myself included.
We need to be doing better still especially for our younger generations and beyond ❤️
What pisses me off the most is how the judges weren’t skinny but they were telling thin girls they are fat???
Yeah, because they're judges, not models/cheerleaders themselves. They just said they were too big/stocky, not fat as well.
That ANTM clip was absolutely horrific. Robin was TINY. 😢 I'm sick over it.
She's the same size as tyra 🤦🏾♀️
My grandma still calls me fat.... She always says "A moment on the lips, a lifetime on the hips" and now I have a binge eating disorder.... Thanks grandma. I'm a uk size 14 which is average
Its the way that dance coach said " I don't like saying this " yet said it with no hesitation... 🙁
When I was 13 in 2001, these trends were very popular, and I was CONSTANTLY made fun of for being a size 14.
I starved myself for years, and had a warped sense of self because of all of the hyped fashion trends of my teens. It's horrifying to think about how far I have come today, and how much my eating disorder was shaped by the media of the early 00s.
People today really have no idea how bad it really was, unless you lived it. If you know you know- if you dont, you're lucky. Consider yourself saved.
Meagan has ALWAYS had to me a bangin smokin body! Then and now! I'm so relieved and PROUD of her for taking the high road and not let that dim her light! If anyone can understand body esteem issues, or trying to appeal to the right eye, it's her! And now she's out here using her voice and her own experience to help others heal their trauma whilst also healing her own. She holds a very special and strong place in society and to women! 💕
Yikes, when they started talking about her “thutt” and implying that it was because she was fat… I feel like having a BIGGER butt would’ve made the demarcation more obvious, but no, smaller is always better 🙄
@@HeatherSchrivener-el2mx righttt?! Like WHAT THE ACTUAL F! I think thutts are sexy all the way lol! Not to mention NORMAL!
To think Robyn was a normal slim looking person in South African standards... I was confused as to why they called her fat 🙈I thought she had gained weight during the show or something
@Kumani lol so why did they do that to her
she isn't normal slim. she's the same size as those super skinny models
the Dallas cowboy TV show is SO BRAVE that they kicked her out like the audacity
I used to model and I can tell that the standards are just imposible to reach in a healthy way even though they tell you it is achievable, I was 97 pounds and being call fat or thick a lot that cost me years of therapy and recovery
97 pounds and you were called fat?!!!! jeeze louise!!! there was something seriously wrong with those people. Basically you were supposed to be a skeleton or a broomstick then
Hey, i would like to say that one of your examples, the girl with stars in her body, her name is Anahi. She is a Mexican singer and actress who in those photos, was still recovering from anorexia. She almost died having her heart stoping for 8 seconds. Now she is a spokesperason for the cause and the harm that society can cause on young girls.
Yep :)
They did robin so bogus. Bullied her and then asked why she is feeling self conscious, crying, wanting to cover up. Shes thin. Just not sickly.
Chile the TRAUMA of the 2000s still resonates till today.
It was only up until recently when the Y2k resurgence made me realize that I had not seen anyone’s belly button for almost a decade.
Anytime I watch an old movie or show I too experience that “.. but she wasn’t fat…”
Sigh is a cycle soo atleast that’s some hope
These Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders with pancake butts being told that they have “too much back there” is WILD.
Right?
I'm 38 and kind of happy with my weight but I remember when I was younger around 21 to 30 I had to be 120 or else I felt fat. Now I look back on my pictures 😢I look sick. Not healthy as look today. This video really spoke to me. I'm like 170 now and I still have moments. I look good but somewhere in my mind I think I have to lose weight. I was brainwashed by this culture.
I'm 36 and think te same as you
I’m 21 and I’m literally there 😬 never dropped below 131 and still striving for 120 (5 6”) 😩 At University I’m just surrounded by girls who are so tiny, I’m 135-138 now and I feel like the biggest one there by a mile.. it’s so hard when you constantly feel like there’s something wrong with you bc no one else seems to struggle with weight maintenance and staying so tiny seems so effortless from the outside in … :(
@@itsn0tthevibe You are beautiful and you are enough.
I used to feel the same way. Then I realized I literally weighed 120 in middle school. There is no reason for me to weigh the same now, in my 20s as I did when I was a literal CHILD.
@@itsn0tthevibe I use to feel the exact same way... I was on extremely strict diets and worked out sometimes twice a day...I was a stick..but I was cold, miserable and it did not make me any happier...what a complete waste of fun, enjoyment and body acceptance ..especially when you are in your 20's. Some people are naturally curvy or thin..but if you have to eat unhealthily to get there...then, you are not meant to be that size; in the end it's anxiety, it's depression and comparing yourself to every other girl around you...please find your healthy balance and know that: your personality and beauty shines extra bright when you have that self love! I KNOW it's hard to see right now...I remember and to this day I still struggle sometimes.. you need to ask yourself: what would you say to a friend who felt/feels how you've been feeling? I hope and pray you realize...you are already perfect, just as you are. God doesn't make mistakes, you are a masterpiece.
Alsoooo: just something I figured out from dating; guys do not think like society does...we all have this understanding or belief that we need to be a certain size to be accepted by friends or even to get a date...it's so far from true! Dudes don't care; they are attracted to confidence/grace and girls who take good care of themselves/love themselves. They don't care about the last 10lbs ..they never will.
Raven was obviously bigger but I never saw her as a fat girl. As a kid i didn’t even think about her weight because I enjoyed the show, the fashion, the comedy and her star power.
I just want to say that I really appreciate the fact you put clips in while talking. As a visual learner it helps me take in what your saying better. Love your work Toni ❤
Edit: wow, I can’t believe what they said to that woman who got cut from the cowboys cheerleading. She looked amazing, and it made me so sad to hear them say that her body wasn’t good enough for the team and she said that’s the body God gave her 😢
I graduated high school in 2001. I grew up in the thick of the extreme skinny trends of Millenials with a pear shaped, wide hipped and low, full bottom, short legs body. I studied ballet until I was 15; despite achieving "en pointe" and keeping the weight requirement (95 lbs), I was told I was too short (5'3) for ballet. Really, it was that my legs were too thick. I could see the difference in my legs to the other girls. It made me strong but it wasn't "aesthetically pleasing". I have struggled with anorexia most of my adult life, up to today. Watching 2000's fashion and makeup come back the way it has triggers me. Thigh gaps and low rise jeans, ugh.
I'm so glad you are reminding people of all the toxicity of the 2000 I was naturally the ideal weight and it gave me issues and I fit what they promoted but yeah no I've never wanted that to come back it's dangerous 😢
I was such a fan of DCC making the team show, but I lost so much respect for the organization after what happened to Megan. That and what they did to another dancer on the same season, Vivian. They said Vivian thighs were too big for her frame and looked like "chicken drumsticks". Vivian was a Latina and had beautiful, lean curves. I was shocked and disgusted by the comment. I couldn't believe how just comfortable they were ripping apart these young dancers.
I watched that when I was a kid so I don’t remember much at all but some how I remember the chicken drumsticks comment. Sick. All of the girls looked fine to me that were considered fat or having a muffin top 😑 hell I’d love to look like that. And I get the outfit is small for a reason but maybe they should think that the outfit shouldn’t be a literal bra and panty set and it’d look better on people
@@kiki13451 I agree !
I never heard of this show before this but my mom had a friend who was a Cowboy's cheerleader when I was a kid in the 1980s/90s. I don't remember her being tiny like these girls, she seemed to have a more slim muscular athletic build.
I remember being in high school in the 2000s and even at my most in shape (5’1, 115 lbs, had visible abs, rib and spine outline was visible), I was a size 8. I was told I had “birthing hips” even in middle school. I was too skinny for some, but too big for others. One time, wearing a sports bra, I sat down beside my friend and she was flabbergasted that I had little rolls on my tummy.
Human bodies have rolls and wrinkles because we are made to bend and move. Hip dips are normal- it’s natural!
I’m a size 14 now, and though I miss my lady muscles, I am so much mentally better than the hellscape of my teenage body dysmorphia years. Also, taking anatomy and physiology classes really helped me see my body in a new light. The human body is a freaking powerhouse and i’m so thankful for mine.
This medication is serious,my father is a medical coordinator/male nurse and he works for a doctor that works with diabetic patients and this drug is seriously helping them although my dad did tell me that it's now becoming unavailable to diabetic patients because alot of people especially in the U.S are using it when they don't need to....we live in South Africa and this is something that is serious my dad told us that this isn't just a conspiracy theory, celebrities are really using this to lose weight
This is why I refuse to get a TikTok account. I already see similar shorts on YT being pushed down to our throats. I deleted my instagram too months ago and I couldn’t have been any happier. I no longer feel like I have to follow the next trendy thing or do what everybody else is doing.
Good for you girl! After buying "Flat Tummy Tea" from Instagram😩 for €50 which was A LOT for me back in 2016 I started rethinking my whole life and haven't been on any social media since 2019. Now I take care of my health not based on influencers/celebrities standards
This is what I appreciated from the BBL movement.. it took the pressure off of being so skinny.
And added pressure on women to get back alley plastic surgery to achieve a flat tummy with a perfectly rounded bubble butt. They are both awful and unattainable.
So you appreciated being fetishized?
I was a little kid in the late 2000’s, and I wanted white skin and blue eyes and blonde hair so bad because that was the beauty standard back then. I’m mixed Indian/white and I have light brown skin, brown eyes and black hair lol. 5 or 6 year old me would BEG my mum (who’s Indian) for blue eye contacts and blonde hair dye and skin whitening cream, but she refused. It took me nearly 10 years to love my skin/hair/eye colours. However I loved emo/scene culture, music, and fashion growing up (and now) and it was one of the key things that helped me love myself, like the black hair, black/white/red clothes, and dark makeup, some of that mixed with some brightness and glitter, energetic music, and so on, was so fun.
Same born in 1993 have an olive skin tone because of my Czech roots and I was bullied constantly for not having blue eyes and blonde hair. I have hazel brown eyes and very dark brown hair. I was so upset I couldn’t be blonde like the popular crew, I WAS TEN YEARS OLD IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL getting bullied like this by not only my peers in school - also adults! Tried to bleach my hair after years of begging my mom to do so and it looked horrendous. Sorry you went through this but it’s nice to know I was not the only one. Smh
Born in 1987, and I look the same, dark hair with red shimmer, brown eyes and light brown skin too. I'm half Indian (my dad is dark skinned) half Greek and one of the Greek ancestors was a white blue eyed redhead who looked like a Viking, the rest is dark haired but light skinned, some had freckles and so has my mom. I'm short and I've always been tiny and still I got bodyshamed back then in every direction. From bones and skin to fat cow I heard the whole spectrum.
And now I understand more with every video of that kind, why I have body dysmorphia and fell into anorexia in 2007 and 2013 (actually ADHD and PTSD doesn't make things easier to deal with), it took me ages of recovery to understand what I did to myself and how much those standards and an unstable past have to do with it.
Today I embrace as much as I can.
Not that it's perfect but I don't let anyone bodyshame me anymore, not even my brain.
I don't have any body image issues since i got off from social media. Scientific sources and self education is key.
it’s also weird how older women are supposed to hold onto their youth and look like teenagers, but teenagers are supposed to act, dress, and function like grown women
the cheerleeder thing is making me FURIOUS
those shows are absolutely disgusting. the fact that those girl were told they were "plus size" or "overweight" is beyond me.
I was born in 1997, so I was a child during the 00s heroin chic and a teenager during the tumble ED era.
I'm so glad people are bringing this up bc all of this early 00s stuff was locked away deep in my brain. I grew up thinking that this attitude was ...totally normal. Its only looking back, seeing all those photos of emaciated young girls that I realise how much the media warped our brains.
They wanted teenage girls to continue to look borderline prepubescent forever. Eg xtina. She was a teenager with a teenagers figure, then she grew up and got a few curves and they came for her so hard. They did the same to every woman. Just reinforces my belief that men want us all to look like tiny dying babies 😂
And Tyra Banks, Miss "I had curves so I had to work for VS, other companies judged my curves but I love them"? Putting down a fellow black woman with a gorgeous figure infront of millions of people? I genuinely never realised how brutal and wrong all of this was! It's sickening
I hated the 2000s. I have such diet problems from that decade
Saaame😭 I always say I've been dieting since I was 13 as a joke but I'm not even joking😬. Even at my best "body goals" I still never felt okay. That time I was fast af and running 5km every morning
As a millennial born in 1986, I fully connect with all of this rhetoric. Many friends and me were obsessed with our size. It hits different as you get older too. Hoping the young girls of today can find balance and a healthy relationship with their appearance. I think it’s actually harder at times with social media 🙃
The amount of body shaming is disgusting... The ironic part is that those who are criticizing women for being 'too big or too fat' are like 2 or 3 times bigger & are nowhere near the 'beauty standard'......
i just want to say that ppl have been using "healthy" as a smokescreen for "skinny". if i was going to actually eat healthy, i would be GAINING weight because no one is the same, health looks different for everyone, and skinny DONE NOT equal health.
im super skinny rn, i wont say my weight cuz i dont want to trigger anyone, but it actually scares me how skinny i am and im trying really hard to eat more and healthier but its so hard since my appetite is so low and i have a lot of health issues that make my diet really restricted. idk why im even saying all this,, im just ranting ig
i just wanted to say that like health can and does look like putting on weight. REAL health isnt abt aesthetics, its abt how you feel and what your body needs.
@Annihilated stop projecting.
when i say triggered im not using it like its more commonly known as now, i mean it as it originally meant; it means to be put into a spiral, obsessive thoughts abt things that are harming you, urges to do self destructive behaviors, and or a full blown breakdown where im just sobbing and completely mentally unstable. its not just "fear" or whatever the fuck. its a serious reaction thats is caused by trauma, but its not something to fucking scoff at.
i hope you can keep getting help because you obviously need it. im sorry youve gone thru sm horrible shit. but its inexcusable to use that as a weapon to make other mentally ill ppl look weaker than you.
@Annihilated facts
Because people want to judge others because they have nothing better to do with their lives
Thank you for gathering all of those old clips of the media and people just being *BRUTAL* to these already very skinny celebrities in the 2000's! Even I forget how terrible and cruel we treated our own and others bodies back then.
Loved the interview with Meagan, as well! Even though it was bittersweet (I'm a 5'1" shorty too) to be reminded of how I never loved my body no matter how small I was when I was younger. I also grew up right next to the Cowboys Stadium and the general beauty culture there was...uh...very homogenous lol
Urgh I was born in 91 and the pressure and judgement was INTENSE. These horrible lowrise super tight jeans that gave you a muffintop no matter what, left your kidneys cold and made you afraid to bend down in any way were truly torture devices. Even as a super skinny girl (underweight skinny) I felt too fat all the time or not busty enough. I was always seeing these celebrities with their tiny stick figure arms and C+ cups and that made me feel constantly that my bust/arm ratio was wrong, still do thanks to that time. And that is nothing compared to what my bigger friends went through. I remember vividly a boy maybe 2 years older than me coming up to a friend of mine when we were like 13 or 14 to lecture her about her body because she was friends with one of his female friends, and apparently she was weighing too much to be friends with her???? Absolutely bat shit crazy stuff
I’m 23 turning 24 in July and I have alwaysss been a skinny Minnie and tried gaining weight but was really hard and these last couple of months I have gained so so much going from 125ish to 170ish and I love it! I feel healthy! Looking back at my snap memories for the 1-2 years ago I looked so malnourished 😟 I definitely love my full figured look now🤍
@name Literally just by eating alottt 🙃!
I wanna be skinny/slim
I am sitting here STUNNED at that segment on Robin. That woman had an absolutely amazing body. She was freaking gorgeous. I cannot with those remarks by the judges. Were they BLIND???
It is sad that even with the access we have today to information and being aware that it is a ''trend'' and that it is ''unhealthy'', we are going to fall back into it as a society.
Robin's part was just... Plus size? really?
The problem is there is no “we”. People are too absorbed in group think to the point that just because a trend exists people feel like they are forced to join in to. Body trends have always existed and will exist in the future. You have to decide whether or not you want to follow every single one.
@@dinkyboss Of course there is a ''we''. I'm going to use here the example of low-waisted pants that look bad on everyone, but look a little better on very skinny women. How can we escape if fashion moves towards it? Most of the population will be conditioned by it. They will see it on TV, on the internet, in stores. It's the new (old in this case) normal. Of course, depending on how easily influenced you are, it will affect you more or less, but it will continue to affect you because we need to continue living in this troubled world.
I think that famous scene in The Devil Wears Prada, where Miranda talks about Andy's blue sweater, is another good example of that. In the end, we decide nothing, we just drown in the shit that is thrown at us.
Exactly
I dont know why they say skinny is back. When was it gone? Models kept being super thin, diets still are around, gyms are full, ppl running every evening in the streets and fitspration is always in. No one wants to be fat since 17th century. Skinny always IN.
It was gone when the bbl era came in theres a difference between being skinny in todays age now you need a big booty and large breasts along with the skinny body in the 2000s that wasn’t a beauty standard
@@beatrizacosta4993It was not really gone...When you think about it,The BBL era was all about being VERY thin,But with a Big Butt and Big boobs...Like a Petite type of Curvy.
I was deep in my ED in Cycle 10. Cycle 10 was the first "plus size" model winner Whitney. Whitney wore a size 10. I thought at the time she was so large as I was a 00 and suffering. I'm a size 10/12 now and people still think I'm skinny. I NEVER want us to go back to the 00 phase.
They all had killer bodies that we’d all die for, how on earth are they considered ‘stocky’?!
Top model was basically an emotionally abusive environment. Telling a gorgeous woman she's fat...she's got hips, which is a feminine trait!
I miss a lot of my childhood, but I’ve been looking back a while on how insane the fatphobia was. Obviously it still exists, but these days there’s more people calling it out. It’s no wonder I grew up struggling with self-esteem and damn near hated every part of my body smh.
What I love about the Dallas cheerleaders things is the old women calling them fat when they’re way heavier then the cheerleaders lol.
I love DCC making the team and I remember Megan 100%. She was one of my favorites. It was hard to watch back then as it is now...I'm so glad to see she's doing well!
God, robin is gorgeous. It’s CRAZY to think they thought that of her? They should be ashamed of themselves.
And can we talk about if our parents were doing this while we were growing up in the 2000s they'd make US KIDS do that too??!
Ive always been a size 0-1 ppl have always body shamed me my whole family is skinny with or without kids , i never body shame bigger people because we cant control how we look..
EXACTLY. Some people are naturally petite and some are naturally curvy. It literally boils down to genetics and people need to stop shaming people to uplift another whether size, skin color, hair texture, ethnicity, tax bracket, or where they live, features, etc. Just live authentically, love and create their own wave. I'm raising two beautiful daughters and want them to simply feel comfortable in their own skin. Not what this world conditions them to believe is a "beauty standard" or what not. That's just my opinion though
I have always been thin and as a kid, parents of my friends and relatives were making fun of me for being too skinny, commenting stuff like “doesn’t your mother feed you” and I always had problems with eating a normal size of food, I was feeling sick all the time because I was thinking that I’m too skinny, I even dropped martial art because the coach told me to eat more and gain more weight, I always felt left out, no one is talking about unhealthy skinny people that can’t or don’t know how to gain weight, the talk is always about people losing weight
Omg Alicia Silverstone has always been an iconic beauty. I still think she's a bad ass love her personality and style and that smile . I hope she knows she is gorgeous.
UA-cam recommended this video to me. Just last week, I had a conversation with my good sista-friends about the “rebirth” of the skinny-waif trend. The conversation turned into a conversation about race and how it becomes entwined with “mainstream” body trends. That conversation started after my friend mentioned how black female bodies aren’t considered to be in the mainstream culture because of the way pop culture media talks about “thicc” is going out of style.
What I learned in my 20s is that celebrities are usually on a revolving door of dietary techniques (as well as surgery and performance-enhancing drugs), which is how they're able to get down to a very limited weight and keep that weight off. After a while, your body gets used to the fad diet you're on, and starts to store fat (that's what I've heard anyway). So yeah, it's incredibly dangerous. The problem is that we have NEVER understood the difference between the body BEING healthy and LOOKING healthy, and thus instead of recognising in a healthy way that our body is cyclical and needs different things at different times, people instead use that cyclical nature to remain thin at the expense of their health.
Ughh I just wanna choke out Janice looking at old ANTM videos of her saying they’re fat. She was just so jealous that they were young & her days of stardom dried up in the 80s. & she still has that mentality to this day.
Fantastic video! The last thing we need is a return to those crazy beauty standards. I feel like we've come a long way with body positivity but there's still a lot of toxic diet culture that is troubling. Always enjoy your take on things!
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I was in high school in the early 2000s. I was a very very skinny girl at 5’9 I was a 00. I would cry because I could not gain weight and visited the doctor several times desperate for help. One doctor actually chuckled and told me to enjoy it while I can. I eventually got into modeling and thank god because I hated my body. My classmates nicknamed me daddy long legs.
The reason I bring this up is because I did not feel like the average woman/girl in the early 2000s was model skinny. I’m also African American and especially in the black community I was body shamed heavily while my white friends were jealous that I could eat whatever I wanted.
Not everyone that is a model or a cheerleader starves themselves. If you have to work so hard that you’re making yourself stressed and miserable, maybe it’s not for you? I used to be a gymnast in elementary school and eventually because I grew so tall I was no longer able to compete with the other girls. I was a cheerleader in high school and when I went away to college, the cheerleaders were more muscular and much shorter. Obviously I would not be able to make the team. Some women are naturally thin, especially when they’re younger so their bodies are suited for modeling, I know mine was so i was never stressed about my weight. I think more people need to come to come to terms with this and stop forcing themselves into spaces that are not suited for them. No offense to the DCC cheerleader but your body was not suited for what that team was looking for, that’s ok, a lot of dance teams don’t have such rigid standards and you’d be better placed in a team like that. robin would make a great commercial model, but antm is looking for high fashion models, so obviously they’re gonna want the tall stick thin girls. Anyways, hope this makes sense.
The DCC look and weight doesn’t interfere with their dancing abilities. You being too tall for gymnastics actually affect your performance compare to a short girl, their compact and have more ability to flip more.
🎯 this. No one gets mad that short people are rejected in basketball and volleyball. Its a dumb argument. I didnt cry about never being able to be a video vixen, pin-up model or a fashion nova model. Radical self acceptance should be taught in schools.
The cheerleader ones were appalling. It's all appalling but my god the cheerleaders just. Wow.
Was great to hear from Meagan, sounds like a great thinker and speaker, I hope she's thriving
There are cheerleaders in college
The DCC crying about being “stocky” and she is definitely thin is so heartbreaking. I’m disgusted
24:30 is the muffin top in the room with us?! There’s literally no visible fat even there!
Poor Jessica Simpson. That POOR woman didnt deserve all that body shaming. And now shes so insanely thin, probably stemming from what the media would say and then the social parroting. I hate that weve all hand a hand in hurting these women to the point that they became DESPERATE to alter themselves over and over, instead of reassuring them in their own skin while sitting on the highrise pedestal we placed them on 🥺💔
It’s so funny bc when the thick era was around, I didn’t fit in bc I was really really skinny and was constantly made fun of for being “too boney,” so it took me many years to finally gain all the weight I wanted to gain, you can say now I’m for sure curvier but now it turns out skinny is back ? Like there’s really no way out for me
America’s Next Top model was the most toxic show of all time as far as representation of women, as well as TMZ being super damaging then ever before at this time too
Ew Dallas cowboys show as well wtf 😢so degrading
I think the most disturbing one is the "h*roin beauty" coming back to life with bella hadid etc, which is really skinny body, dark eyes, simple makeup, basically people are trying to look like they're taking it while they're not. And I'm not even kidding, this is literally a thing. Except back then it didn't have a name, it's wasn't considered a beauty standard, it was a life style. And now we're making a beauty standard out of this extremely dangerous life style.
I really REALLY love this episode! You should do more of this! You have a natural talent to interview people and it shows with Megan how comfortable you are making her during your talk. This was really really nice and the subject is SO IMPORTANT for you in this younger generation, who grew up in the era of curvy and thicc beauty!
Growing up, I watched ANTM seeing Robyn from Memphis, Tn (which is 45 minutes away from me in Arkansas) tall and curvy, I loved seeing it but it was a very disturbing thing to see her being called fat when she was damn near perfect to me. I hope her, Megan and any others are doing well mentally and knew they were beautiful regardless of what was said ❤
I'm 35, grew up in the 2000s as a teen and young adult...I still have horrible body issues from it!
For someone who has struggled and still does with multiple eating disorders seeing these videos pop up on social media has made me have to delete apps like tiktok due to how triggering videos can be and how much they’re pushed. It’s harmful not ok
I was entering high school in the early 2000s and I remember my ED getting worse and worse because I had curves and wanted to lose them. I think now it's more about having a booty as well, but also a flat stomach. I'm almost 6 feet tall, so anything under a size 9 makes me look quite odd and starved.
the boom of kpop and the obsession with korean beauty standards is definitely responsible as well
Raven is also top heavy so that can contribute to looking bigger
Me seeing all the trends that destroyed my self-esteem as a kid coming back 🤡
9:25 this is exactly what my mom would always tell me and my siblings, at night since apparently it’s not good to eat at night? Idk but when we were hungry during the day she would never tell us this.
Omg poor Robin . 😢
I’m just happy I love the way I am because everything is a trend. Literally no one can keep up
It's jealousy & insecurity😔 I think the majority of men & women who agree to play along with the narrative of calling someone fat - must of had verbal abuse done to them & or are just a cruel bully that finds it either funny to keep the narrative of fatness as "the butt of the joke" or have the mentality of "If I can't get away with being fat without being harassed, neither can you." It's sooo messed up and are def projecting their insecurities . I don't miss the 2000s. I remember as a kid, having a big chest, I felt so ashamed because nobody had my bra size except old lady boutiques, and My hips and belly was an issue all the time during the 2000s. Now, I can find my size so easy from before, and I never thought that within 10 years - it would make such a difference. It was between the years 2013 and up, I saw the rise of size inclusive stuff. I think 2016 was the biggest year for plus size things. Anything between the years 2000 - 2011 - it was rare to see fashionable cute plus size things.
Thanks for mentioning the terrible things that happened to a lot of us in 2020… I struggled with long Covid for 4 months and ended up losing my job, husband, and home due to that illness. As the world moves on sometimes it feels like people just want to put all of us who are still dealing with the aftermath of the pandemic in the closet. I appreciate you acknowledging it!
This trend is gave me bad flashbacks of being anorexic/bulimic in middle school so I could squeeze into size 2 jeans. I remember everyone telling me I was so pale and my skin was sagging and my hair was falling out and it was so unhealthy. Every Friday we had a bake sale at school and I would work there and torture myself and tell myself I needed to resist the temptation. Then I would end up binging and purging. It was so terrible. I’m so comfortable with my body now and some of that comes from how society’s view of what’s beautiful changed over the years. Seeing women like Kim K and Khloe who had bodies that weren’t a size 0 made me feel included and beautiful. I am very comfortable with my body now and already decided during the pandemic that I will NEVER wear jeans again because they just aren’t comfortable - so I also won’t be wearing low rise jeans or thongs or any of this crazy stuff I tortured myself with during middle and high school. Maybe I’ll be single the rest of my life, but at least I love myself now ❤ Couldn’t say that when I was a size 2 binging and purging and obsessed with every calorie. Never again.
It’s perfectly okay to encourage working out and eating healthy and we all should do more of that. There’s a difference between aiming for a healthy body and aiming for a rail thin body. For some people’s body frames, maybe rail thin is possible, but not for everyone.
Also- heads up for Thrive market for next video you advertise with them - make sure to let everyone know they waive that monthly subscription fee for low income customers with proof of an EBT card. Sadly they don’t accept EBT, so it’s not super accessible for us low income folks, but I appreciate them at least offering that perk, and am keeping it on the back burner as a place I’d like to shop if my financial situation changes / improves.
Videos like these just keep reminding me to not download tiktok.
Your videos are always very well thought out, looking forward to this one!
Growing up in the 2000s I know for sure that I stunted my growth by starving myself all the time
Hey queen thanks for releasing videos while I plug away at my office job. Love ya work
These clips are so infuriating…those women were already small, some probably underweight. Anything smaller would be detrimental to their health.