DEEP DIVE: The Shocking Timeline of Taylor Swift & Matty Healy

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  • Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
  • well...here we are, making the video I NEVER wanted to make....a full deep dive and timeline of Taylor Swift and Matty Healy's brief interruption, slight malfunction etc etc. Aka the nexus of the tortured poets department, our latest download of taylore from the mothership. In this video we ask ourselves....was any of it true? Unpacking the years in which these two modern idiots circled each other before finally closing in. Towards the end of the video I do a juicy lyrical analysis of moments where I think we may have missed the mark on the muses. Enjoy!
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    0:00 - 3:33 context
    3:33 - 6:00 why matty drove her insane
    6:00 - 7:00 1989 is NOT about matty
    7:00 - 9:25 neolithic age
    9:25 -12:16 middle age
    12:16 - 18:40 ice age
    18:40 - 32:47 information age
    32:47 34:00 revisiting lover
    34:00 - 36:00 revisiting folklore
    36:00 - 42:00 revisitng evermore
    42:00 revisiting midnights
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  • @theswiftologist
    @theswiftologist  23 дні тому +128

    by popular demand here's my emotional chronology of the matty healy interlude playlist: open.spotify.com/playlist/7yRZZDNaps3970tYm7QyzW?si=494c02a7f77345de
    I'll be walking you through it song by song on the patreon!! www.patreon.com/swiftologist/
    (this isn't a STRICT chronology, it's more of a vibe check in a sense...you'll notice there are some 1975 songs in there too)

    • @dramatictoons9303
      @dramatictoons9303 14 днів тому

      Oh no, they'll call taylor a victim player now for the songs she wrote about ratty

    • @LKYme
      @LKYme 12 днів тому +2

      What about "The Alchemy"? Do you think it might also be about Ratty, despite the many football references?
      P.S. You forgot to add "Peter". 😜

  • @kaleyburchette
    @kaleyburchette 23 дні тому +625

    “did you ever have someone kiss you in a crowded room, and every single one of your friends is making fun of you” has unfortunately never made more sense than it does when it’s referring to this man

    • @lambulance
      @lambulance 10 днів тому +5

      honestly, this lyric line is most likely about Karlie and kissgate

    • @thelakes6477
      @thelakes6477 10 днів тому +8

      ​@@lambulance that thing is so weeird because it feels eerily fitting to the lyrics and it probably did happen; but I don't think the whole kaylor or gaylor thing was ever real. People's main argument was that the "official taylor dating timeline" didn't completely add up, but after so many years I've come to the conclusion that the reason why it doesn't add up is because most of her relationships definitely overlapped (she's a cheater, we've known). The whole Matty Healy scandal helped filling a lot of holes in the narrative.

  • @danichiong6727
    @danichiong6727 24 дні тому +1465

    “Swirled you into all of my poems”…one of the most devastating things she’s ever said

    • @junainahrahman4156
      @junainahrahman4156 24 дні тому +113

      Nobody is more devastated than me 😭 All my fav songs are from folklore and Evermore. I still love them ofc but lowkey disgusted that Matt is the muse but what ever, I'm just here for the music

    • @LindaDulcinea
      @LindaDulcinea 24 дні тому +6

      But actually, though.

    • @rachelgleason6261
      @rachelgleason6261 24 дні тому +27

      At least in my mind, that line means ret-conning old songs to be about him. No matter who or what they were about originally

    • @14NRossi
      @14NRossi 24 дні тому +62

      @@junainahrahman4156honestly, you have to commend him for being an interesting muse. And that there is something romantic about a pining and longing over a decade, even if it ended up ending so badly.
      At the end of the day though, the songs should really be what they mean to you regardless of muse.

    • @JorgeLuis-ej3su
      @JorgeLuis-ej3su 23 дні тому

      Yes... Ratty 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮

  • @rosiebeed9239
    @rosiebeed9239 24 дні тому +978

    Its so impressive the way you quote taylor swift lyrics so smoothly, bilingual king

    • @evelynfonsecasiqueiros
      @evelynfonsecasiqueiros 24 дні тому +37

      I knoww do you imagine explaining all this to a normal person? HAHA

    • @bamagal7681
      @bamagal7681 22 дні тому +10

      Love the way you break this down and intertwine the details of the story! A masterpiece! I crown thee King Swiftologist ❤👏🏻🫶🏼

    • @lisarubin6117
      @lisarubin6117 21 день тому +4

      Love this
      U reign with eloquent intelligence and foresight 🔆

    • @rachaelc4762
      @rachaelc4762 20 днів тому +1

      omg truly bilingual

  • @TheGrandOFF
    @TheGrandOFF 24 дні тому +1157

    Question starts with “I remember” because in About You he constantly asks: “Do you think I have forgotten?”. What a great red herring!

    • @selkarmi
      @selkarmi 24 дні тому +11

      Omg

    • @Clara_taylorsversion
      @Clara_taylorsversion 23 дні тому +1

      Interesting

    • @carol0906
      @carol0906 23 дні тому +28

      I'm a big 1975 girlie and I also always understood that she was responding to “About you”

    • @Dani-vu7em
      @Dani-vu7em 23 дні тому +7

      👏 👏 👏 I only 99% believed question was about matty, but this comment sealed it!

    • @alannafino2493
      @alannafino2493 23 дні тому +1

      UMMMM YUP! I remember these two songs playing back and forth for me until it finally dawned on me

  • @katieh.8149
    @katieh.8149 24 дні тому +647

    matty was always the muse because she could mold him to any narrative she wanted because she didn’t really know him… and it’s genius. he was the tortured artist, mysterious, and a little problematic at times. and she was obsessed and I get it and once they really got to know eachother it ended cause he couldn’t handle it

    • @sassy6498
      @sassy6498 23 дні тому +105

      Yes, I have said this .She was in love with the fantasy she created about him " The Peter to her Wendy" not the real Matty. And I think he did the same .They couldn't never survive reality , but she was so unhappy that she created the fantasy in her secret garden of her head like in " I hate it here".

    • @ellielovely4129
      @ellielovely4129 23 дні тому +29

      A little problematic at times? Try a lot

    • @hayleysmith3113
      @hayleysmith3113 22 дні тому +6

      @@sassy6498I agree with everything about this

    • @DianeLake-sw3ym
      @DianeLake-sw3ym 16 днів тому +19

      He was the stereotypical Bad Boy. Many women seem to need to be with a bad boy at least once. For them it's a safe way of rebelling. Which is why I never fell for one. I was the rebel without a cause. I did not need to live my rebellion through a bad boy. But, Taylor has this public image of a good girl. Wholesome. Matty made her feel she could stick up her middle finger to the world and the media without being bad herself.

  • @valliyarnl
    @valliyarnl 24 дні тому +1498

    I’m so glad I’m chronically online so that I can catch this within a minute of uploading

  • @TheGrandOFF
    @TheGrandOFF 24 дні тому +580

    I think the play on maroon/rust with Ratty is so interesting. “The rust that grew between telephones”/“if rusting my sparkling summer was the goal”. Scarlet might be a reference to her reputation if she were to date him. A play on scarlet letter, forbidden love.

    • @rebekahlove4850
      @rebekahlove4850 24 дні тому +75

      A couple more “I had the shiniest wheels now they’re rusting” on This Is Me Trying and “salt air and the rust on your door” in August

    • @Violet2148
      @Violet2148 24 дні тому

      Maroon about Matty? Let me laugh. And thank god she is away from that loser. And hopefully away from the chief idiot soon.

    • @lilym2230
      @lilym2230 23 дні тому

      OMG YEA

    • @bonjourista
      @bonjourista 23 дні тому +5

      But is it? Idk it's kinda basic metaphor and she repeats her ideas. Idk but with this specific lyric Im just not cojnvinced 😅

    • @akcoady
      @akcoady 22 дні тому +2

      My favorite TS song, outside of "Treacherous," is about MH. OK now.

  • @willmcnally3388
    @willmcnally3388 24 дні тому +162

    The worst thing about all these theories is that almost all of them make complete sense

  • @littlebitaver
    @littlebitaver 24 дні тому +737

    You are literally the first person I've seen to point out that the lyric
    "I love you, it's ruining my life" is most likely something that Matty said to Taylor during that decade of trying to "woo" her - hence the refrain.
    This is why you're the Swiftologist 💕

    • @annamariesieberns9894
      @annamariesieberns9894 24 дні тому +28

      This is so genius that you figured this out!

    • @claudiabcarvalho
      @claudiabcarvalho 24 дні тому +23

      In the end, it turned out he ruined her life for some time. There's this double meaning: referencing his words to say that he ruined her.

    • @jeanieboyd2485
      @jeanieboyd2485 23 дні тому +1

      Yup!

    • @jessicaklyn1835
      @jessicaklyn1835 23 дні тому +7

      This literally made my mother drop! I'm like giiirrrrlll can hold a fucking grudge 😮😂

    • @dogloversmith7139
      @dogloversmith7139 19 днів тому

      hahaha

  • @aurynm1887
    @aurynm1887 22 дні тому +58

    “Some guy said my aura’s moonstone just cause he was high” 👀

  • @kaleydeweese7413
    @kaleydeweese7413 12 днів тому +34

    Matty is truly the manic pixie dream boy with which TS was in love with the idea of. Holy shit. This is 500 Days of Summer irl

  • @Zach27727
    @Zach27727 24 дні тому +730

    Matty also referred to himself as a cowboy at the 2020 NME awards in his speech

    • @dalalali1628
      @dalalali1628 24 дні тому +58

      Omg with this video i think something clicked in my mind, i loved cowboy like me the ending of it was vague not that clear but the chemistry, the goal, the devastation was fully there.

    • @Zach27727
      @Zach27727 24 дні тому +73

      @@dalalali1628 yeah it makes sense to me now and it reminds me of ‘like I lost my twin’ in down bad, because of the connection they have as artists, songwriters and creatives

    • @chrismcmurry8508
      @chrismcmurry8508 24 дні тому +59

      @@Zach27727 I agree! Read his lyrics. They are two peas in a pod creatively. Both are hopeless romantics. But he's just too messed up to actually make it happen. Quite tragic.

    • @Cyn8201
      @Cyn8201 24 дні тому +20

      Taylor so drunk going up there to get her award. I believe something changed that night when they saw each other again. I mean they've been friends for years after they briefly dated.

    • @yoweemma
      @yoweemma 24 дні тому +24

      And cowboy like me has a similar melody to 'i can fix him'
      Cowboy like me is one of my top 3 songs, and it being connected to 'i can fix him' makes SO much sense.

  • @luisasemerak2519
    @luisasemerak2519 24 дні тому +335

    I would pay good money for a swiftologist taylor-matty chronological timeline playlist

    • @abruxademe
      @abruxademe 24 дні тому

      Search on spot for playlist called "Taylor and Matty affair - Swiftology references".

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  24 дні тому +192

      oh it exists but im still tweaking it....

    • @hacheck6
      @hacheck6 24 дні тому +19

      So no 1989, but what about the vault tracks? I mean SLUT for sure since he was on an unreleased version?

    • @madal3nar
      @madal3nar 23 дні тому +1

      this video helped me put mine together but it's not in chronological order that's too hard for me😭

    • @hunniii2356
      @hunniii2356 22 дні тому +11

      @@hacheck6 it doesn't make sense bc everything in 1989 is about harry bc when she wrote the tracks she hadn't even met him, plus "everyone wants him, that was my crime" isn't about Matty, that's for damn sure

  • @amyelr
    @amyelr 24 дні тому +344

    Interesting coincidence (?) that maroon can also mean to strand / leave isolated. "How dare you think it's romantic, leaving me safe and stranded".

  • @Ms_Mori
    @Ms_Mori 24 дні тому +314

    I can't help but think about this
    "In from the snow, your touch brought forth an incandescent glow"
    going into this
    "I felt aglow like this, never before and never since"

    • @avlrealestatesource
      @avlrealestatesource 24 дні тому +12

      Ohh and “snow on the beach!”

    • @babyxblue
      @babyxblue 19 днів тому +6

      I know it shouldn't matter that much, but i feel absolutely pissed to know that some of my favorite songs have matty healy references on them 😭

  • @billyk8397
    @billyk8397 24 дні тому +994

    “Question…?” not being about Harry but about Matty makes me so mad but only because it works way to well

    • @_xoxo_gossipgirl_
      @_xoxo_gossipgirl_ 24 дні тому +47

      But its start with "i remember" and it references to out of the woods so how can it be about matty healy?

    • @neeliknowsnothing
      @neeliknowsnothing 24 дні тому +218

      @@_xoxo_gossipgirl_every bait and switch was a work of art ✨

    • @PandoraStolen
      @PandoraStolen 24 дні тому +26

      ​@@_xoxo_gossipgirl_ he explains that in the video

    • @KarolinaK00
      @KarolinaK00 24 дні тому +80

      ​​@@_xoxo_gossipgirl_ on About You, a song he played after the infamous 'you know who you are I love you' he repeats 'do you think I have forgotten?' over and over. I think that's her reply. Both were written around the same period when they reconnected through Jack who produced both of their albums.

    • @alexandrite61
      @alexandrite61 24 дні тому +63

      Looking at it from the context of the muse being Matty, her sampling OOTW is probably more so a reference to them meeting during 1989 era, as opposed to it being about the same person as OOTW. If true, what a red herring that is lol

  • @xeme2774
    @xeme2774 24 дні тому +359

    The NoDaysOffOlogist is back and we are SEATED

  • @KarolinaK00
    @KarolinaK00 24 дні тому +495

    I'd also add Labyrinth to the Matty Healy of it all. I think the 'oh no I'm falling in love again' is very much about them reconnecting while her relationship with Joe was breaking down. Also 'back into the hedge maze' lyric on Guilty as Sin links that song back to Labyrinth.

    • @adriananabananana
      @adriananabananana 24 дні тому +15

      I had this same thought!! 😊

    • @denizece3672
      @denizece3672 24 дні тому +25

      I‘ve been told I was delulu for saying that Labyrinth was far more significant than we thought 😄

    • @KarolinaK00
      @KarolinaK00 24 дні тому +11

      @@denizece3672 I don't know if I would have come to this realisation without ttpd so I can understand people not seeing the vision initially 😅

    • @auddiemtr1083
      @auddiemtr1083 24 дні тому +1

      I thought the same as well

    • @denizece3672
      @denizece3672 24 дні тому +10

      @@KarolinaK00 No, totally, because I didn‘t think of any more than her and Joe being on and off, initially

  • @felipepaze
    @felipepaze 24 дні тому +311

    i love when you say a taylor lyric mid sentence to complete your thought because thats EXACTLY how my brain works

  • @Fea54
    @Fea54 24 дні тому +635

    1989 - 1975 = 14. So it was never gonna work.

  • @heabooktubes
    @heabooktubes 24 дні тому +1194

    I absolutely love how you’re able to hate on the men without blaming Taylor for liking them. ♥️♥️♥️

    • @lifeiscruisey1912
      @lifeiscruisey1912 24 дні тому +122

      But shouldn't she be blamed for wanting to cheat on Joe with Matty for nearly 3 years. For all we know she did cheat and then ditched Joe because she wanted to make it official with Matty

    • @evelynwright329
      @evelynwright329 24 дні тому +133

      ​@@lifeiscruisey1912I mean this so seriously, someone's relationships do not equal the relationship you have with them. don't try and paint someone as a villain when... she's just being honest. and the reason fantasizing is so taboo is because everyone else lies. 90% of people will have a fantasy in a relationship lol. guilty as sin doesn't imply she slept with Matty in a relationship.

    • @lifeiscruisey1912
      @lifeiscruisey1912 24 дні тому +105

      @@evelynwright329 cheating doesn't mean hooking up. If your boyfriend was texting some other girl and writing love song for her all nice and coded that's cheating too. Face the truth. She cheated and things broke down. She's human.

    • @dazzlingburritoes5693
      @dazzlingburritoes5693 24 дні тому +78

      Cheating is her repeated behavior. We've been seeing that since she was dating Calvin Harris. But also celebrities drama, non of our business. We're here for the songs.

    • @Marina-nn4md
      @Marina-nn4md 24 дні тому +25

      @@lifeiscruisey1912 yup. love is messy like this. we would all like to have ended everthing and had a clean break up with one person before ever developing feelings for someone else, but the truth is: it rarely happens like that. when you reach your thirties, if you've dated around enough, that overlap it's bound to have happened a couple of times at least

  • @caitlinboyle154
    @caitlinboyle154 23 дні тому +111

    ‘Is the effing acoustic record about us’ TOOK ME OUTTT

  • @emperaliz
    @emperaliz 24 дні тому +155

    Now THIS is Pulitzer winning journalism, sir. Thank you for the derangement and the light you shone down on all of this mess. As always top quality work from the Swiftologist

    • @Mrs.Currie
      @Mrs.Currie 22 дні тому +1

      Haha, derangement as pulitzer caliber journalism.

  • @aquajewlz1
    @aquajewlz1 24 дні тому +299

    “She joined tumblr in 2014 and got hooked on the rat. Many such cases” 💀

    • @tangozmangoo
      @tangozmangoo 23 дні тому +26

      Like Halsey. Her poems about Matty Healy are truly my Roman Empire.

    • @sunshineyrainbows13
      @sunshineyrainbows13 23 дні тому +11

      that was me at age 15 lol. poor taylor.

    •  23 дні тому +1

      It happened to the best of us 😂

    • @minuishaq631
      @minuishaq631 19 днів тому +5

      ​@@tangozmangooI really don't get it. I like Halsey and Taylor they both seem intelligent & decent people. What did they see in him?

    • @lexi7749
      @lexi7749 2 дні тому

      @@minuishaq631based on the content I’ve seen of him, he strikes me as a genuine narcissist. However, I think they may have been drawn to his strong sense of self, confidence, he seems like he knows how to be funny and charming. Maybe he knew exactly what to say them?

  • @kianna270
    @kianna270 24 дні тому +147

    “I support women’s right and women’s wrongs” 😂

  • @dikshasharma3031
    @dikshasharma3031 24 дні тому +203

    It was clear that there were two muses since folklore. I always assumed it to be Harry and the songs just started connecting. I was devastated or more like my world was turned upside down when I realised those songs were about Healy!

    • @clashfan2875
      @clashfan2875 24 дні тому +13

      The videos for Cardigan and Falling Again so weirdly paralleled each other for example. I can see how you could assume Harry.

    • @anomardolphin
      @anomardolphin 24 дні тому +11

      @@clashfan2875 I just won't accept Cardigan isn't about Harry. But my overall position is that almost no song is inspired by one person and that all the writers, whomever they be (and this includes Harry), write lines are inspired by more than one relationship. This gets done unconsciously at first and then tends to stick even if the writer see what s/he has slipped into the work. Hence, do not expect any analysis to be on target for every line or other clue in the song. As far as the Cardigan MV goes, the paper airplane which appears as Taylor goes into the piano bench in the video cannot be ignored. All you guys have seen that paper airplane, right?

    • @troubleskipper4084
      @troubleskipper4084 23 дні тому +2

      @@anomardolphinI still think Cardigan and question…? Is about Harry no one can change that like Harry also has songs that are parallel to these maybe both of them inspired it but it’s Harry for me tho

    • @Karensmusic292
      @Karensmusic292 22 дні тому +3

      @@anomardolphin I've never seen a paper airplane in that video. After several watches, I saw her dress fall into a V shape under the bench as she's getting into the bench - is that what people see as the paper airplane? It's a coincidence that her dress falls like that. It's not a paper airplane. That's a HUGE reach and very wishful thinking.

    • @februaryone5923
      @februaryone5923 21 день тому

      @@anomardolphin I agree the plane is in the video and we were supposed to see it or it would have been changed/ fixed/removed because the producers would also have seen it too when they watched it before it was released. It is there because we are supposed to associate it with Harry. Taylor must find it so funny when the facts are twisted to fit what/who we like or in this case go blind or hallucinate for them to say the plane isn't there or it is her dress. Don't let others sway you because they are fickle. Songs that were loooong established to be about Harry can't just change overnight because Matty was seen with Taylor for a few weeks. Also some content creators will write/say anything for monitization of videos.

  • @ClassProjects09
    @ClassProjects09 24 дні тому +81

    We're just going to skip over the fact that Nashville was one of the first rain shows, he was in attendance, and the Black Dog references her "rain soaked body".

    • @Cvinkavich1
      @Cvinkavich1 22 дні тому +11

      Reading the lyrics again this is definitely a Matty song. I can’t believe the ologist didn’t reference it.
      ‘You said I needed a brave man
      Then proceeded to play him
      Until I believed it too
      And it kills me
      I just don't understand’

    • @sofiarays
      @sofiarays 16 днів тому +12

      The Black Dog is 100% about Matty. There is a bar in Cork, Ireland called the Black Dog, where the 1973 performed on June 13 last year, a week after news of TS & MH's breakup.

  • @meadhbhloml
    @meadhbhloml 24 дні тому +225

    How about in willow "wait for the signal and I'll meet you after dark" "begging for you to take my hand, wreck my plans" also "head on the pillow I could feel you sneaking in" could tie into guitly as sin

    • @musicandmania
      @musicandmania 24 дні тому +18

      I'm new here but the other day I was intently listening to willow and it struck me that it sounded suspiciously different now that we have different contexts. to be fair now that this plot development has been uncovered to a great extent and this is where we are, I find myself listening to things in a whole different way because of our current "revelation as a collective that was presented to us very late"

    • @meadhbhloml
      @meadhbhloml 24 дні тому +2

      @@musicandmania Same :)

    • @nubesvaporosas7191
      @nubesvaporosas7191 24 дні тому +33

      He really was one price she'd cheat to win

    • @imawakemymindisalive13
      @imawakemymindisalive13 24 дні тому +14

      omg i never heard “head on the pillow i could feel you sneaking in” as being very sexual before but now 💀💀💀

    • @musicandmania
      @musicandmania 24 дні тому

      @@imawakemymindisalive13 well, not even in the sex sex kind of way but.. 17 year olds don't drink wine and intertwine in sheets like a romcom, marked me like a bloodstain.. living for the hope of it all, cancel all my plans just in case you called. That's like. Deeper than 17 and absolutely Rat coded (this is a reference that goes with my previous comment about how Betty august and cardigan are not as fictional as she tried to imply but are simply, most unfortunately, now more understandable. Willow is in the same category.

  • @lins_z2
    @lins_z2 24 дні тому +160

    Also it’s so interesting how the more overt Matty songs have this old western /Wild West sound to it. In my first listen to TTPD, I immediately connected the songs to cowboy like me.
    Also congrats for moving pass your denial of the 1 being about ratty lmao!

    • @happycommuter3523
      @happycommuter3523 24 дні тому +27

      Yeah, “I can fix him” gives serious Old West vibes. There’s definitely a connection.

    • @Cyn8201
      @Cyn8201 24 дні тому +7

      Matty grew up in northern England which is similar to the American south with western/country influences. His dad influenced a lot his country inspired songs in his own catalog.

    • @tangozmangoo
      @tangozmangoo 23 дні тому +1

      I mean if she was The 1975 girly in 2014 the whole theme it’s so clearly „Robbers” coded.

    • @TessaTruehart
      @TessaTruehart 18 днів тому +2

      The reason for the Wild West themes is bc Matty’s greatest song is called Robbers. It’s based on the idea of Bonnie & Clyde.

  • @Lurrrrrrrrr
    @Lurrrrrrrrr 24 дні тому +115

    Love how you were denying and cringing at Madeline for saying the 1 and illicit affairs were about ratty healy, but now you’re in 100% agreement.

  • @causeimnachoprincess
    @causeimnachoprincess 24 дні тому +73

    Listening to TTPD and then revisiting her older works has been the most fun I've had in ages because Taylor is usually so careful to keep her mess private & this was one time she just let go

  • @JR47625
    @JR47625 24 дні тому +125

    The greatest thing to come out of this was the "He lets her bejeweled" meme.

  • @jjl3530
    @jjl3530 24 дні тому +194

    Listen, when I say you saved my Sunday afternoon… that‘s an understatement.
    Thank the lord for the No-Days-off-ologist

    • @jjl3530
      @jjl3530 24 дні тому +1

      @swiftologist ilysm

  • @trinabaker3186
    @trinabaker3186 24 дні тому +191

    Wow !
    No wonder you love Taylor so much. You are such a wonderful poet yourself. ... like the Rosetta Stone that keeps on revealing to us.
    I am as obssessed listening to your art as much as Taylor's art. You have a way with words.

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  24 дні тому +62

      Wow, thank you!

    • @PandoraStolen
      @PandoraStolen 24 дні тому +14

      He says things in his videos all the time and I'm like that could be a song lyric but I think it's because he's a writer.

    • @trinabaker3186
      @trinabaker3186 23 дні тому

      ​@@PandoraStolen ... yes ... a very good writer !

    • @jeanieboyd2485
      @jeanieboyd2485 23 дні тому +1

      So true!

    • @alisonshaw7563
      @alisonshaw7563 23 дні тому +1

      Agreed ❤

  • @lesliehale8595
    @lesliehale8595 24 дні тому +65

    The "Why She Disappeared" poem from the reputation magazine also mentions con men and get love quick schemes which I find quite compelling...

    • @sarahfosch5893
      @sarahfosch5893 20 днів тому +2

      oh the rep vault bout to be crazzzyyyyy

  • @fletcher447
    @fletcher447 24 дні тому +68

    I attended The 1975 show the night they played in Perth (the night of matty's birthday), and I remember hearing his speech and getting this sinking feeling it was about Taylor 😭

    • @sarahfosch5893
      @sarahfosch5893 20 днів тому +5

      sorry but they could never make me hate him 😭😭😭

  • @thefirstrenegade
    @thefirstrenegade 24 дні тому +106

    I was sooo confused by the "I remember" sample until I listened to About You by the 1975. Matty keeps repeating "do you think I have forgotten?" over and over again. There is also a verse where a female voice sings "there was something 'bout you that now I can't remember". I think that "I remember" might have been a message to Matty but it of course also served as a red herring since Taylor is a mastermind. She probably didn't want for us to figure out the Matty connection at that point of time.

  • @hkandm4s23
    @hkandm4s23 24 дні тому +204

    Just want to add that while i may be in the minority, i think fortnight is actually quite more autobiographical than everyone seems to think. It's a much more chronological album that everyone seems to give it credit for. She's reminiscing about the fortnight her and Matty spent together, likely described in maroon, probably shortly after they were reintroduced. Talking about being good neighbors, each of them having partners, but being in love with him. While dramatized, i think it's setting up the situation perfectly.... then towards the end of the song, she finally admits her partner is cheating she's miserable and she's ready to "kill" him. Always dreaming of the fortnight they had together, they finally agree on a plan to pursue the relationship once the breakup is announced and she goes to Florida. Just my thoughts❤

    • @TheGrandOFF
      @TheGrandOFF 24 дні тому +33

      I also thought that she wanted to set the scene here. It’s like preface to a good novel.

    • @jessicam3707
      @jessicam3707 24 дні тому +17

      Yess and he is her “getaway car” for the relationship, hence “buy the car you want”. Florida in general is a metaphor for the chaos of Matty (“work your life away just to pay for a timeshare down in Destin” timeshare is usually 1-2 weeks so a fortnight, Destin=destiny as mentioned in BDILH. She worked her whole life for a fortnight with her destiny). But then “it won’t start up til I touch you” with the hand with the ring in the video - she didn’t actually get her happy getaway until Travis.

    • @claudiabcarvalho
      @claudiabcarvalho 23 дні тому +16

      It was always clear to me that the whole song was an allegory: the husband is Joe and the neighbor is Matty. She had to act like they were just acquaintances every time they ran into each other, because she was still committed to Joe. Then she's like "No, Joe is cheating on me, I need to leave him", and she went running to Matty. The "killing" is also metaphorical, it means ending things with someone. When Florence says "your cheating husband disappeared", it's a reference to how Joe went back to being insignificant once he was no longer with her.

    • @jamiekay3650
      @jamiekay3650 23 дні тому +6

      @@claudiabcarvalhoI also think the “backyard” and being neighbors is Electric Lady…

    • @paulaooook
      @paulaooook 23 дні тому +2

      It is chronological! 100%.

  •  23 дні тому +31

    As someone whose two favorite artists have been the 1975 and Taylor Swift for almost a decade, I just wanna applaud your work on this video!!! You did such a great job and I wish every Swiftie would watch this cause I’m tired of having to explain the lore 😂😂

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  22 дні тому +4

      Tysm!!!

    • @sarahfosch5893
      @sarahfosch5893 20 днів тому +2

      so trueeeee
      swifties NEED to listen to all i need to hear and about you it’s just crazzyyy
      they could never make me hate matty healy, this man and his band saved me from so many depression episodes i love them😭😭

  • @ReeCrowsFray
    @ReeCrowsFray 24 дні тому +50

    From experience (have very much been baited and chased like this. It’s intoxicating), when you have this dreamy, aloof, and fantastical “love” or wonder for another person romantically, you often find the dream is far more beautiful. Once you are able to final get that full moment of connection with a person you long for like this, it almost always burns out faster than than a cigarette. The story and longing period is forever ingrained and magical, but the true moment is just…not it. Not sure if this is the case, but I wouldn’t be shocked if it was for Matty and/or Taylor. I very much see him as the one who loves thinking of love more than actually maintaining it long term.

  • @samagyashaw2723
    @samagyashaw2723 24 дні тому +108

    The script of this video is insane 🔥🔥

  • @emmar9190
    @emmar9190 24 дні тому +44

    This might be unhinged of me but I also see Matty in The Lakes and Willow. Like in Willow she’s begging him to take her hand and wreck her plans (presumably with Joe) and then she can finally say “that’s my man”, which then leads to I can fix him “when I tell ‘em he’s my man”👀

    • @maria_m326
      @maria_m326 24 дні тому +8

      Yesss, take me to the lakes where all the poets go to die

    • @kmax594
      @kmax594 24 дні тому +3

      And she is not going without her muse.

    • @vee.13
      @vee.13 23 дні тому +4

      "I'm setting off, but not without my muse" ...I think I'm gonna throw up..🥲

  • @KelLauren
    @KelLauren 23 дні тому +23

    zach this video is BELLISSIMOOOOO GORGINAAAAAA 5 STAR JOURNALISM. no one does it like you, might be your best one yet.

    • @lizsoranno4636
      @lizsoranno4636 22 дні тому

      It really is so good. Thorough. Informational. Poetic. Hilarious. I think he really enjoyed making this one.

  • @KelseasComments
    @KelseasComments 24 дні тому +61

    Maroon is absolutely about Matty as well. That night they stayed up till 4... her waking up with his memory over her.. etc.

    • @LeVoyagedAudrey
      @LeVoyagedAudrey 24 дні тому +16

      On my show she didn't perform a TTPD song on the surprise songs set, instead she did Hey Stephen and... Maroon!!!! (And that was the moment I knew)

    • @shilohgoes5544
      @shilohgoes5544 23 дні тому +7

      I think maroon is imagining the whole relationship playing out even before it begins, in the same way that Wildest Dreams is.

    • @claudiabcarvalho
      @claudiabcarvalho 23 дні тому +1

      ​@@shilohgoes5544 Wildest Dreams is about Alexander Skarsgard.

    • @hunniii2356
      @hunniii2356 22 дні тому

      @@claudiabcarvalho wildest dreams is about harry

    • @hunniii2356
      @hunniii2356 22 дні тому

      the night they stayed up till fouur was on jan when she was a guest a their show and that was after midnights came out so she's def referencing something else

  • @aestheticalrose4553
    @aestheticalrose4553 24 дні тому +100

    Whenever I see a Swiftologist video that's almost an hour long, I cry with joy.

  • @francescayuzon1255
    @francescayuzon1255 24 дні тому +67

    I was just finding something i want to watch while painting, instantly left movie streaming platforms to watch thee swiftologist!

  • @hkandm4s23
    @hkandm4s23 24 дні тому +39

    So glad people are finally understanding the lyrics of Chloe & co, and the fact that it literally sheds light on the entire relationship and gives the missing chronology alluded to throughout the album. So many people misunderstood the song, completely missing the word 'decade' or thinking it was about a different person. I listened to the album initially without knowing anything about Matty Healy except that they dated but after that song i was like oooohhhhh..... this person must have been an old flame never pursued that she watched that descend into addiction. No wonder it seemed so promising and gave her the push to get out of her miserable long term thing. What an ass for lovebombing her and lying about how much he changed. I thought all this before i knew who he was, and watched as everyone who actually followed celebrity stuff was totally confused or in denial. i was like.... did we listen to the same album?

  • @MarcDoesNotKnow
    @MarcDoesNotKnow 24 дні тому +39

    the way I can't unhear the mattyness of snow on the beach now like omg ☹️☹️ great insightful video as always

  • @samanthalang2211
    @samanthalang2211 24 дні тому +34

    You really laid your life down for us with this one

  • @saturnrising8515
    @saturnrising8515 24 дні тому +215

    I think she was very infatuated with the fact that someone as "hard to impress" as matty was lovebombing her, it made her feel special and not like the other girls lol

    • @ayomidedareabel5525
      @ayomidedareabel5525 24 дні тому +74

      "You said normal girls were boring but you were gone by the morning" lol. The only reason she fell his lovebombing is because of her pick me tendencies the need for escape from boredom with joe

    • @MarcDoesNotKnow
      @MarcDoesNotKnow 24 дні тому +36

      it's also probably bc 6 long and slow years of boredom and wanting to escape meant that she'd eat up anything anyone offered after actually leaving

    • @ayomidedareabel5525
      @ayomidedareabel5525 24 дні тому +42

      @@MarcDoesNotKnow exactly. She was with someone who never praised and barely spoke about her in public. Someone like matty openly praising her for being a good artist must tugged her heart strings

    • @maryem9225
      @maryem9225 24 дні тому +41

      YUP. Taylor seems to feel perpetually not enough and looks for that reassurance in her relationships. We can see it with John Mayer (a big shot in the music world), Jake Gyllynhall (big shot in acting), Conner Kennedy (a literal kennedy), Joe Alwyn and his posh british theater thing, and then with Matty. And it’s crazy cause like she’s Taylor Swift she does not need some man to confirm that she’s smart and intillectual and good enough.

    • @ayomidedareabel5525
      @ayomidedareabel5525 24 дні тому +40

      @@maryem9225 I mean when you look at her history of being bullied in school and even till now people still undermine her talent you can kinda understand why she seeks that validation. Although I have noticed lately that she's developing an idgaf attitude. Which is good

  • @JennSkywalker.
    @JennSkywalker. 24 дні тому +30

    I just finished this break down. Now I’m off to make myself Sunday breakfast & re- listen to folklore, evermore, midnights & TPD super intently because I can’t unsee everything you just laid out here for us Zach.

    • @aanaperdigao
      @aanaperdigao 24 дні тому +2

      Same here 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @aanaperdigao
      @aanaperdigao 24 дні тому +2

      I don't wanna miss any song.

  • @NewFish07
    @NewFish07 23 дні тому +21

    love the way you just casually started talking in lyrics also thanks for such a thorough breakdown :)

  • @melaniersos
    @melaniersos 24 дні тому +22

    This is such an important historical record. To be referenced for years to come! This felt like an offering to our collective brains who have been trying to hold onto pieces of the puzzle and now we get to see them assembled.
    As for songs- the Peter/ Cardigan links.

  • @veruhruba2618
    @veruhruba2618 24 дні тому +51

    Also Snow on the beach - your eyes are flying saucers from another planet - Down Bad?! omg

    • @meghansullivan6812
      @meghansullivan6812 24 дні тому +2

      OHHH

    • @makaylat7616
      @makaylat7616 24 дні тому

      He mentioned this directly at approx 42:30

    • @veruhruba2618
      @veruhruba2618 23 дні тому

      @@makaylat7616 Oh, I missed that, thanx :) I was so proud of myself that I came up with that on my own xD

  • @teresaspedaliere6114
    @teresaspedaliere6114 24 дні тому +127

    I think this relationship is just the perfect example that if you build someone up to be something in your head, you are just gonna be disappointed. but I will say Matty did give Taylor a reason to do that. And it is crazy that this is kinda his Mo, like Halsey and FKA twigs both have supposedly written lyrics that say he very much love bombed and then changed his mind.

    • @teresaspedaliere6114
      @teresaspedaliere6114 24 дні тому +4

      @@greentearainTaylor or Matty?😂

    • @jubilee4
      @jubilee4 24 дні тому

      Imo both 😅 ​@@teresaspedaliere6114

    • @ayomidedareabel5525
      @ayomidedareabel5525 23 дні тому +6

      @@teresaspedaliere6114 matty lol. Taylor is an anxious attached girlie

    • @wearesurvivorsx
      @wearesurvivorsx 23 дні тому

      @@greentearain do you mean avoidant attachment? because avoidant personality disorder is something different

    • @greentearain
      @greentearain 23 дні тому

      @@wearesurvivorsx oh probably

  • @guineverer23
    @guineverer23 24 дні тому +45

    Ok the Cowboy Like Me connection is brilliant. Forever is the sweetest con --> A conman sells a fool a get love quick scheme. Mind blowing analysis just for that, but there is so much more here to ponder. I will have to re-watch this video to get these details into my brain because I think you are spot on here with these parallels. I have also wondered why she would have been so hung up on Harry Styles years later and the answer, lol, is she wasn’t. ok, going to wonder forever, in what crowded room did Matty kiss Taylor?

  • @brighid9527
    @brighid9527 8 днів тому +3

    I am going to be rewatching this video and absorbing the lore for months to come. This is beautiful. Its educational and poetic. Thank you for this masterpiece.

  • @sarasweet3578
    @sarasweet3578 24 дні тому +65

    I’m so glad I’m not one of those crybabies who feel certain songs are “ruined” because they’re about matty. I loved the mess and chaos of the relationship and feel he is an interesting muse. Doesn’t mean I like HIM- but I like the ART

    • @pde8444
      @pde8444 15 днів тому +2

      I like connecting the songs to the real people because I can feel the emotion and feel the heart break and pain

  • @jessierehwald3809
    @jessierehwald3809 24 дні тому +29

    THANK YOU for making this video. i’ve been waiting for it lmao. another hint i noticed (which might be sooo far fetched) is that “the 1” could have been titled “the one”, but she didn’t do that, and to me it seems like a reference to “the 1(975)”. it’s out there but mentally i’m telling myself it was on purpose lol.

  • @kellymcguire4524
    @kellymcguire4524 24 дні тому +39

    Wow, this makes the anthology so much more interesting!

  • @tillie_brn
    @tillie_brn 18 днів тому +7

    The fact that you referenced "flying saucers from another planet" but didn't make the connection to the alien abduction imagery in Down Bad...

  • @delobster7711
    @delobster7711 24 дні тому +16

    I know how difficult this was to make Zach but I honestly appreciate it. Because if I'm gonna have to learn about this tragic fabric of their dreaming I'd rather hear it with your snarky and wonderful commentary. I am as you say seated. And grateful.❤

  • @rollinginthedeep6900
    @rollinginthedeep6900 24 дні тому +12

    This is such a top tier swiftologist video!!! So thorough and vivid in the way you're able to describe Taylor, her environment, and her mindset. You're always adding to my ability to appreciate my favorite artist and I love your content so much for that 🫶❤️

  • @noahffence
    @noahffence 24 дні тому +12

    I have been wanting this timeline explained for so long, THANK YOU

  • @fedelede2
    @fedelede2 20 днів тому +7

    The parallel between “Karma is the guy on the screen coming straight home to me” from Karma with “I need to get back, I've gotta see the girl on the screen” from If You’re Too Shy (Let Me Know) has always stood out to me

  • @manouka
    @manouka 11 днів тому +9

    Going back and analyzing her lyrics and stories and the way they intertwine is like literature class on drugs and one of my favourite things to do ever

  • @elizabethreed3317
    @elizabethreed3317 12 днів тому +6

    I hate that taylor often feels intellectually inferior to her partners

  • @jonasreich3607
    @jonasreich3607 24 дні тому +36

    Fastest I've clicked in my life. Thanks for starting off the week right, Zach!!

  • @alex..cas09
    @alex..cas09 24 дні тому +14

    ur getting crazy close to 100k! sad i can't gatekeep anymore but happy for u

  • @AylalikeKaylawithouttheK
    @AylalikeKaylawithouttheK 24 дні тому +3

    THE PERFECT VIDEO I’ve been needing this breakdown of the timeline that’s so thorough! This video better blow up

  • @yasmingoodwin9680
    @yasmingoodwin9680 24 дні тому +12

    Started feeling ill as you went through the back catalogue WITHOUT MERCY. But at the same time it always baffled me that everyone was so convinced folkmore was so fictional. As if my love obsessed girlie was not writing from the heart!? Cowboy like me is so beautiful and unfortunately fits Matty too well. It's so rough for her that she had this pining for so long only for it to not work out but that's what makes her such an interesting artist because it's such a relatable experience. I gotta say though, TTPD is a treasure trove for those willing to go to these lengths!!! Thanks for dissecting this Zach!! 👏👏👏

  • @alexnicole6806
    @alexnicole6806 24 дні тому +7

    Oh, I’ve been waiting for this one ❤️ seated and READY

  • @Reputation.133
    @Reputation.133 24 дні тому +6

    Highlight of the week , can’t wait to watch it ❤❤❤

  • @nikshepsingh136
    @nikshepsingh136 24 дні тому +3

    Hey! This analysis was so thorough and meticulous. ily for creating such a well thought out video for us

  • @sajaaz-ym8bj
    @sajaaz-ym8bj 24 дні тому +2

    IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONEEE. TURN IT UP🔥🔥🙏🙏

  • @keatonhayes6636
    @keatonhayes6636 24 дні тому +5

    I've been waiting for this oh my gosh 😭

  • @JRay.R
    @JRay.R 24 дні тому +5

    Simply brilliant, again…and as always.
    Take a bow, you’re somehow the king of both comedy and reality and I always find you and your channel very refreshing.
    Also love that your videos are so often posted just minutes before I sit down to eat breakfast, lol perfect timing!

  • @helloheyo4ever
    @helloheyo4ever 24 дні тому +2

    Absolutely love this dissertation !!! All for this thank you!

  • @klaratichakova
    @klaratichakova 23 дні тому +3

    I was SO looking forward to this, and you delivered, as expected. Impecable reporting, as always.
    I think I'm gonna watch it again, because I still cannot believe some aspects of this affair. To quote the Queen herself, what a mess.

  • @requiemforwinter
    @requiemforwinter 24 дні тому +4

    Absolutely love love Love your breakdown on this. 👏👏👏

  • @happydude5517
    @happydude5517 24 дні тому +4

    IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE

  • @lisareed1384
    @lisareed1384 24 дні тому +2

    i love a video essay from you on any pop culture topic. thank you for the food!

  • @lovelover4408
    @lovelover4408 24 дні тому +2

    I’ve been waiting for this one 💓

  • @isiii17
    @isiii17 24 дні тому +54

    i‘d love to see a playlist with all the songs you think are about him maybe even just the timeline in general 🙏🏼

  • @Jena29
    @Jena29 24 дні тому +9

    I ran as as soon as i saw the notification 😭✨

  • @finalmovieac
    @finalmovieac 24 дні тому +2

    I was waiting for you to do a timeline on this! Thanks for taking the time to put this together! I particularly LOVED your lyric analysis of songs through her discography in light of the Information Age! I watched a video from a UA-camr “Kara’s Bookshelf” (Decoding TTPD) which helped with the Healy/Swift interlude and that one coupled with yours are must see!

  • @happycommuter3523
    @happycommuter3523 24 дні тому +2

    I love this so much, and I think you nailed the timeline perfectly. The lyrical references make sense, too. Great work.

  • @meghansullivan6812
    @meghansullivan6812 24 дні тому +23

    HOLD TF UP SHE ANNOUNCED THE JOE BREAKUP ON HIS MF BIRTHDAY?’?!?!?! That is literally evil omfg TAYLOR!!!!

  • @haleyscloud
    @haleyscloud 23 дні тому +5

    Perfect takes!!! Great work Zach. I agree with basically everything

  • @AngryGoldenHore
    @AngryGoldenHore 23 дні тому +4

    I have been writing a dissertation length essay on this for the past two weeks. I am SO excited to see someone validating my insanity! I personally think it goes all the way back to Reputation and Lover too.

  • @ThatsSoAnne
    @ThatsSoAnne 24 дні тому +6

    I think this was my favorite video of yours so far 🥹🫶

  • @janeydanger
    @janeydanger 20 днів тому +6

    “So scarlet it was maroon” - the love was so forbidden it was abandoned. It was deeper than red.

    • @LKYme
      @LKYme 12 днів тому

      Great insight

  • @girlfindinggod
    @girlfindinggod 19 днів тому +3

    Wow. This is one of the best UA-cam videos I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Thank you for your work 😭😭😭

  • @thedivinefemme5285
    @thedivinefemme5285 24 дні тому +2

    This is the video I've been hoping for since the wee hours of April 19th, and it did not disappoint!

  • @broccoli748
    @broccoli748 23 дні тому

    I have been waiting for this, thank youuu!! I am obsessed

  • @delylahdavies1
    @delylahdavies1 24 дні тому +3

    hey queen! the swiftologist has done it again. constantly raising the bar for us all, and doing it flawlessly! i’d say i’m surprised, but we know who you are. we’ve seen it up close and personal. you make us so proud, and we love you! ❤

  • @bettyo8417
    @bettyo8417 24 дні тому +4

    Wow so much to think about as I re-listen to Folklore, Evermore, & Midnights! Great video, thanks so much!

  • @madelynsmith1766
    @madelynsmith1766 19 днів тому +2

    This ep is INCREDIBLE. super well done, I loved watching this

  • @hattie143
    @hattie143 24 дні тому

    Amazing video as always!! Thank you for feeding us a delectable Sunday treat!! ❤