X90L VS U8K Rematch! Which is truly the King of the Mid range ?
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2023
- This is a rematch of the Hisense U8K MINI-LED vs. the Sony X90L full array local dimming Led. Both are excellent and have a tremendous value while also being very different from each other.
You can see the previous match up below. Thank you so much for watching.
• SONY X90L VS HISENSE U... X90L vs U8K
• SONY X95L VS HISENSE U... UX vs X95L
Special thanks to Value Electronics for supplying the Sony X90L for extended review and please consider making your next AV purchase through them valueelectronics.com/#2915 or call them directly at 914 723 3344 and ask for Robert or Wendy and please mention Brian at BRIAN'S TECH THERAPY. You can also purchase the Hisense U8K MINI-LED from them as well.
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Thank you for the video Brian, a sweet comparison of great TVs. A question On a slightly different tv, can you please tell me for the A80L, word is the 77” is brighter than the 83”… can you please tell me is that true?
Appreciate your open and honest views, I too do not prefer fmm. If going with the larger 98" size I might pay more for the Sony due to the better processing which I think would be important in the larger size, do you have thoughts on the larger size with these two panels? Thank you.
Thx Brian for the great video , can you plz compare x93L vs U8k . Or at least advise me by paying more how much image quality i gain over sony if thats a case ? My watching room is controlled light . Or u suggest to forget all going for A80L ?
I am grabbing the U8K soon after watching your u7k vx u8k battle...just wanted to say your videos have an ASMR quality to them, not a boring I want to sleep thing, just a very relaxing, great voice thing. Great reviews, glad I came across this channel today.
Good job! Love these comparisons!😄
BRIAN whats up brutha been awhile.... in your opinion which do you think is better "PQ" wise??
X90L is looking really good. I see some great sales for this TV. 😊
Thank you for your reviews. U8K is awesome. I am blown away with the picture quality. You helped me decide to pick u8k over the u7k.
Amazing!!! I'm so happy you are loving it! I'm also so happy you have found the channel helpful .
thoughts versus a budget OLED like the LG B3 in smaller sizes?
Looking to get one of these 2 TVs for my parents for valentine's day. They mostly watch standard TV like the news, MASH, sports, that kind of stuff, every once in a while a movie. So im thinking to get the Sony but im still not sure. What would you pick?
Thanks for the review. For me I always prefer vivid or dynamic mode. In fact, the more vivid the better. I even prefer scene where for example the grass that looks fluorescent than the natural washed out look.
Any recommendation for a TV that satisfy this requirement?
Hi, first time for me seeing your channel this week. I have a question, for the same price (which I have the chance to get them for right now) which one would be best?
I should mention, that I’m looking at the 85” versions of these. So which one would be best?
If you put the QM8 in the mix with these two, which one do you choose?
I have the U8K. Very happy with the TV. I use it for 4K bluray movies most of the time, paired with a panasonic 820 player.
Hi Brian not sure if you have seen my request before but could you please compare the x90l vs x93l/x95k I see a lot of people asking these questions on forums including me and wondering if it's worth it to spend extra for mini led. It would be great. Thanks a lot t
For these great videos keep them coming!
Great question. I do remember Vincent doing a video on the a90l and it seemed to beat the others in accuracy (I think?) I don’t remember exactly but it was pretty interesting. I’ll have to go watch again.
Proud owner of 75 inch x90L. It’s awesome
How is it from side?
I wanna ask you, with this 75 inch, va panel, if you watch it at around 6ft/a bit less than 2m, would you find a difference in color saturation etc on the sides compared to the center, since va panel has a low viewing angle?
the viewing angle is fantastic if that's what you referring too, I have 65" and we really love it!@@bones549
Me too
@@bivitabrata3188 I don’t see much difference off center but the more you go you might notice some color shift. If that’s a concern then there are other TVs anyways. All I want to emphasize is the XR processing and color science of Sony is great
After the sales are over 😮. Do you think sony will drop prices again this year? Maybe the x93l ?
Hello, a question, can you turn the tv on and off using the remote control but without pointing the control at the sony X90L tv??
Which would be better to stream movies from Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Max, etc in large size TV?
Hi x85k better Toshiba z770??
Gaming ??
Loving what I see on your channel. Thank you!
Thanks for the comparisons Brian!
Really torn between these two for ps5
Rtings talking about the bugs on the Hisense makes me lean more to the Sony
Or go a step up to a mid tier OLED
There are bugs sometimes like a picture setting will turn off for no reason and I have to enable it again. Stuff like that is minor, but it happens. More annoying are the issues with EARC randomly getting stuck in Stereo mode until I unplug the TV and receiver. Other than that it’s a pretty great TV for gaming. So is the Sony, but one downside is it’s local dimming feature will look worse when VRR is enabled. The Hisense looks the same no matter what.
@@Big_Dogg31thanks for the feedback, so the local dimming with VRR on with the Hisense looks the same? I’m not using any other revivers either so I probably wouldn’t run into the sound issue
The local dimming on Samsung tvs in game mode is the worst so these two probably look better either way
@@Big_Dogg31 I own the X90L, and local dimming seems to be the same with VRR on, and off as well as the fact that it lets me mess with the local dimming settings in both cases. However what doesn't work with VRR on is motion blur reduction because it auto disables all motion settings, and does not allow me to mess with it at all vs. when VRR is off it allows me to mess with the motion settings.
@@asole2847that’s good to know, how are you you liking the X90L?
@@rickygreen3496 It's good enough to the point where I would have to go for something like the QN95C if the X90L wasn't to my liking, and at first it wasn't. (Would have went all out, and bought the X95L if it came @65 inches because reality creation makes this thing look really detailed depending on the content. Sometimes it's a slight difference, and sometimes it's a huge difference and that's why I wanted my tv to be a Sony) However after using my OLED monitor to help me adjust the settings this TV looks WAY better now. (I basically eye balled it, and played the same exact content on each display to help me decide what looked better I didn't do anything special nor calibrate it) Out of the box settings don't do this TV justice nor does simply switching to different picture modes. Going to the store, and looking at it in demo mode doesn't do it justice either as I imagine the same is true for every other TV. That's why you have to adjust the settings in their "Picture mode" tab if you want this to actually look good, and give it a fair chance. Now what I don't like is the blooming but it isn't something that happens often it's just a small annoyance to me when it does therefore if this is a big issue for you I wouldn't recommend it. I'm also not a fan of the semi gloss finish as matte screens look cheap to me but looking at it, and looking at my monitor which does have a matte screen, the TV actually doesn't look too bad in comparison.
Thanks Brian
I want to see some angle-viewing comparisons. As stated in the first "showdown". There is now a $200.00 dollar difference at Best Buy for both 75" sets. I also hope some context is offered about what changes if anything, one can expect with increased sizes. Is visual quality and movement impacted? Do the manufacturers pack less in resource wise?
Viewing angle on the 75" versions: there is NO contest. The Hisense wins by lightyears ahead due to its ADSpro panel. You will have OLED like viewing angles (not quite, but close enough!).
If you buy 65" or 85" and up: buy the Sony X90L.
If you buy 75": clearly buy the U8K.
The U8K in 75" is phenomenal and the differences between 65" and 75" are stark. It's wild. It's like a different TV.
Now, Hisense is at fault that they don't communicate this clearly and see themselves getting average reviews for their 2023 flagship model, simply because everyone is testing in 65" only.
I had a LG C3 in 77", a X90L in 75" and a U8K in 75" in comparison. The U8K is the best of both worlds (closer to the C3 than to the 65" of it's own kind).
To add to that: Hisense only uses their flagship ADSpro panel in the 75" version. 65" and 85" (and up..) is using a VA panel.
Starting with the 2024 models (U8L?), they are going to use ADSpro in the 75" and 85" version (potentially also in the 65" version).
Thanks for the video, I recently found that the U8 is using 8 bit panel that generate 16 million colors while the X90L uses 10 bit panel that generate 1,07 billion colors !! that like comparing edge let LED with G3 OLED.
If I use my shield pro 2019 as media center, does the TV processing / upscaling matter?
I have the X90L and a shield pro, and the AI upscaling on the Shield is noticeably better (IMO)
GUys whats bette U8K or QM8 for 4k content and UA-cam?
Nice to see it again, but please review sound either ,, me and alot of people's don't like to have a sound bar so we rely on a tv performance .
Using the tvs integrated speakers is a sin. It breaks the number one rule of audio, the speakers don't even face you. Literally any other sound bar or stereo speaker setup will blow them away.
Waiting to have my Sony X90L (85”)arrive. It’s replacing my Sony Bravia “65 that will go downstairs. My question is what would be an all round mode to leave it in to get the best picture. We don’t watch a lot of tv during the day and mainly at night. Am I expected to constantly change the modes from say custom to cinema to etc? Is there like an “auto” mode? Either way looking forward to this new screen in my home.
Awesome! Congratulations on your new X90L. The Standard preset is actually quite good but may be to vibrant. Custom is an excellent and accurate preset. I'd jump between those two.
Which ever mode you go with make sure to go to "Picture settings" locate "Video signal", click on it, click "Color space", and change it from "Auto" to"DCI" for better color. Also the X90L comes with "Local dimming" set to "Medium" out of the box, make sure to change it to "High", and change "Black adjust" to "Low" or "High" depending on your taste. Also set "Reality Creation" to "Manual", and adjust it to your preference because depending on the content it makes either a slight difference or a huge difference. Just doing these 4 things will make the Sony look way better. There are other things you could mess with to make it look better but these 4 are the most important ones.
@@asole2847 thanks!
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY thanks!
@@tyalderdice2325 Also make sure to adjust "Color" to your preference because DCI tends to lean towards red for skin tones.
Got a 65" inch U8K tv on Sunday, My 85" gets here tomorrow for pick up at best buy, Use the 65 for pc gaming, and 85 for family room, I'm ready to show it off on Christmas Party Shaowww!
Wow!! Awesome!! I'm so glad you are enjoying the U8K, and congratulations on your 85" !! Enjoy your Christmas party, my friend!
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY Thanks Happy Holidays 😎
Hi Brian. One question about black bars performance. Samsung qn90b and Hisense u8k which one is better in keeping black bars inky?
I have the x90L and the black bars are Inky black
@@buttoxbrown Don't tell me fairy tales. I saw X90L and dark scenes peformance is typical for Sony
@@user-oq4rm5ci9p the black bars are Inky black, I have the 85" x90L I'm not lying
Hisense is brighter in some areas but the Sony looks (better) which seems to be the majority vote here anyway . Glad I watched this . Going for Sony 75, Best Buy 1599 (5-15-24)
2yr warranty as well , I’ll take my chances with the better quality brand
Got a 65'' X90L yesterday that i use as a PC monitor sitting 8.5 feet away and it's only been a day but it's fantastic. Was debating between X90 and U8K originally and went with the Sony for brand reliability. Pretty sure i would have enjoyed the U8K as well as it's a great TV too.
Only downside of the X90 is that i cannot make it work with my DAC (DX3Pro+) via the SPDIF output. It just make a loud screetching noise in my headphones. Tried to disable all surround stuff , dolby , set the PCM only etc but still the same. If anyone has any ideas i'm listening
Why are you running the DAC from the TV and not from your PC
Hi, a question, can you turn the sony X90L tv on and off using the remote control but without pointing the remote control at the tv??
Sorry guys but that Hisense looks better overall to me!!!
Can you comment on your preference between the QM8 and the U8K? Would love to see a comparison of those two head to head.
The QM8 is more like a beefed up Samsung. Bright, vibrant but a little wild. The U8K is perhaps a little more natural. I prefer the brute force of the QM8 at least sometimes
The QM8 is wild but crushes blacks. So you may have amazing highlights and contrast but you're losing some detail in dark scenes. I personally hate black crush I would get the U8k instead.
I’m waiting on my XR X90L Sony tv being delivered this weekend. I’ve had nothing but Sonys for at least the last 3 decades. (no lie) I still have my 32” Bravia sony, my 48” Sony Bravia screen cracked all over the screen during moving. I think the tires still need to be kicked on OLED TV’s. I was thinking about the Sony A90J model but I didn’t want a two year old model. This video makes me feel like I made the right choice on the Sony model. 🤗
How is it? Any complains?
I've had an LG OLED since 2015, last of the FHD's. It's still going strong and the picture still outperforms everything in all ways except for it's resolution. You should have got on the OLED train in the early days. Now that they have to achieve 4K and large sizes they are generally beyond most budgets. My replacement will be LED like one of these two, and will be a backward step in many respects. 4K content and a larger screen size will hopefully be compensation enough.
Hisense does have it own version of "ultra clear" --> please enable it under "Main Menu"->"Clarity"->"SuperResolution".
It will change the crispness of the image w/o appearing over sharpened.
Also, the 75" U8K uses a completely different panel (ADSpro), it gives superior grey uniformity, much higher perceived contrast and black level and color volume, too. Besides, the picture remains punchy and stable from extreme angels (almost OLED like).
Thanks for the info on this size. Good job!
I agree Super Resolution can make a big difference in clarity. The ADS panel is great but it actually has lower contrast than the VA U8K panels, not higher. The native contrast is less than half and dynamic contrast is something like 50% lower than the VA U8Ks on paper. Also it seems the IPS panel is more prone to raised black letterbox bars when watching movies. To be fair I’ve heard the X90L does that too.
@@Big_Dogg31 You got that wrong.
The ADSpro has a lower native contrast (irrelevant) and a significantly higher dynamic contrast (relevant). The Samsung QN90c also uses an ADSpro panel. Its superior dynamic contrast compared to last year's QN90b is significant! Besides, an ADSpro panel is excellent for gaming since it doesn't have any of the VA smear effect. It's grey uniformity and color volume is higher than the VA panel, too.
The 2024 Hisense lineup will switch completely to ADSpro panels (65” is in question, the 75” and 85” are confirmed). Samsung is switching back to VA panels in their 2024 lineup due to a dispute with BOE (the ADSpro panel manufacturer).
Great Review!!!
Thank you Carlos! I really appreciate it and thank you for watching
I wish there’s X95L 55”
Hey hiee.. which is the best preset to watch SPORTS??..
I find it very blooming in vivid and standard mode.
Thank you
Brian - will these sets be calibrated for the comparison?
Are YOU going to pay upwards of $1000 to get your new TV calibrated? Of course not, so why does it matter?
Yea, but not a grand - some of us are capable. It matters because otherwise you are not comparing apples to apples. Look at the Rtings measurements and you will see how far off each of these sets is in completely different area's. So, yea it matters to at least know how the comparison was done, so we know what the base line is for what he is showing us. Thanks Mr Crass!@@steveludwig4200
@steve professional calibration can be done for less than $500. Why do "you" care if he cares?
The Hisense looks better in a few scenes. The Sony looks better in most scenes. The Sony has more detail, depth and a more real or natural look to it. Also the Hisense shows a lot of banding while the Sony does not. Also, these examples are all 4K material, mostly delivered at high bitrate (not sure about the bitrate for the Jennifer Gala scenes). If you stream most of your content (as many people do) then the differences will be even greater with Sony delivering the better picture. This past Black Friday week Amazon had the 65" Sony X90L priced at $998.00 and the 65" Hisense U8K priced at $898.00. Just $100.00 price difference between them. No question the Sony is the better TV and the better value at these prices. Thanks for the updated comparison Brian.
LIAR!
I wouldn't say the Sony is the better TV. It depends on what person prefers the most either the better hardware with the U8K or the better software with the X90L, and which ever one they like most will be the best for them.
@@asole2847 Sony is king of nothing. Both hardware and software.
@@ifeanyidede2106 I'm not talking about the A95L I'm talking about the X90L where the upscaling, motion, and PQ EOTF Tracking is better as well as being the more stable TV. vs. the U8K. The U8K only wins in HDR, blooming control, and deeper contrast thanks to it's hardware aka it's MINI-LED, and larger zone count thus it's also the better TV if you want the better hardware.
Lol cope
@9:28 look at the signage on the post with the images and lettering and how much clearer it is on the X90L. In gaming, that's a bigger difference than quality and performance mode where the game runs at native 1080p and is upscaled to 1440p for performance and 1440p upscaled to 4k for quality.
This is a step above that. So you're getting a DLSS/FSR upgrade from the Sony which is necessary with today's games and streaming content. I do wonder how the better processor of the A95L fares against the X90L.
In soccer, you'll see the field much better and jerseys, crowd, and signs around the field will be much clearer on the Sony. And of course, the ball will be clearer too.
If the U8K is midrange, then the definition of mid range has come a long way since midrange was mid range...I walked into Best Buy last week and saw the U8K...it blew me away..looks top tier to me, not mid range. This is coming from an owner of Sony X95K...I actually considered for a second replacing my X95K with the U8K..i was really shocked by how amazing the U8k looked..
The U8K is the flagship, U7K is midrange.
90 and 95k aren't the best. The L series is definitely an improvement
I just got a U8K and the optical out isn't working properly. Turns out, Hisense has a history of this intermittent cutting out. I've done everything I can to get it to work even called their support, tried all kinds of fixes suggested on youtube and still,, just won't work properly for my optical out cable. Also, the image is bright and let's say punchy. Lot's of settings to mess with though but ultimately it's not as realistic nor as 3D as my 8 year old 4k Samsung.. So,, I'm going to go with the more realistic Sony X90L and hopefully that one works better.
@@IntegrityFinance Hey ..I just got the 55 inch X90L and it has a gorgeous picture...do it!!!
Go with 90L . Sony color is fantastic . can go vivid mode too , still looks nice
I'm totally happy with my 65" U8K. I just use filmmaker mode for HDR, Dolby Vision Dark for DV, and theater night for SDR which I did calibrate.
Filmmaker mode is great for watching movies, but not much else. I know the complaints of being too dark, but a lot of people don't realize that auto light sensor is turned on. If you turn it off, the brightness opens right up and FM looks fantastic and film accurate.
Viewing angles aren't as narrow as you think. You can have a pretty wide couch with people sitting on it from one end to the other, and you don't really lose that much quality.
Overall, I think both sets are very close to matching. You could go with either one and be good to go. I just think people hinge too much on "safe" well known brand names. I like my underdog, and U8K rivals the higher end, more expensive tvs.
I'm now in need of a new tv since my current one is going out, I've narrowed down the choices between these two but can't decide which one I prefer.
Hi Barry, the X90L is the better all around tv if streaming and regular TV watching is your use case. It has XR clear which helps with upscaling. The u8K is brighter and more vibrant and is better with native 4k
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY I'm about 50/50 with just watching tv and gaming but my current tv is tcl 617 so I'm sure either will be a big improvement
@barrymccaulkiner2895 I'd go u8k for it's vibrancy and gaming features
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY that's why I'm having a hard decision, sony for watching tv and hisense for gaming. Guess it will come down to price. Should both be on sale superbowl time. Thanks for your input
@barrymccaulkiner2895 its near superbowl barry, where are the sales??
After going back and forth between the two, I think they both have their merits. If you don't have crazy light conditions you will notice shadow details and clarity better on the Sony. In my case, I have a really bright room with about 1500 lux of indirect sunlight and lots of windows, my iphone with close to 700 nits was an improvement but still wasn't enough so I have a feeling I will be better served with the 1500-2000 nits of brightness of the U8K. Currently, I have an old entry level 4k LG tv with 170 nits from 2015 😆and I think clarity will be less of an issue if the whole image appears faded in a bright room setting. Also, I think FALDs would have more blooming present if used in a max brightness capacity.
Sounds pretty logical, and a good choice however the X90L hardly blooms from my own exp.with it. I can't really speak too much about the brightness considering your area is diff than mine, and thus I have no idea if it would be bright enough for you but for me it's too bright, and I have to decrease the brightness depending on the light outside.
Those Hisense and TLC looks good for most users but the question is how long they will last compare to a Sony ? Do they care about customers services ?
Only time will tell my friend. Thank you so much for watching
The exact reason why I'll never even consider buying a Hisense,TCL,Visio,Insignia,or anything that isn't Sony,Samsung,or LG. Heard the new Sharp tvs that are coming are going to be really good too.
I just bought the U8K based on all of your content around this TV. The X90L does look superior in most of the comparison shots, but I wanted to give Hisense and ULED a try. I have a 15-year-old Bravia hanging in my office that still looks fantastic at its old age, so hopefully I don't regret this decision. But I really appreciate all of this content you're putting out. Thank you.
Great comment, my friend! I wouldn't say the X90L looks superior? I'd say maybe more natural and perhaps more accurate. However, in most shots, I preferred the U8K for its vibrancy, color, and better local dimming. Hope you enjoy the U8K, and thank you so much for the kind words.
Perhaps more accurate? Come on.
Throughout your demonstration, on most of scenes in comparison side by side, I noticed U8K revealed more details on its right side and as for X90L showing the same characteristic rather on its left side. In conclusion, as each of them has its own merits, it is just an even match.
I have the UK8 but the Sony just looks better more detailed. I prefer that over the brightness advantage which I ended up turning down anyway.
I’m not a professional but for my taste Hisense looks outstanding and $$ 5K difference at BB warms my heart 😊😊😊 but in terms of reliability I have some doubts. Sony is like tank and can work 24/7 but don’t know the opponent abilities
U8k has a 2 year warranty as opposed to X90l's 1. I think Hisense is confident about its durability.
@@Damn_Smooth
Back in 2015, I bought 50" Hisense H7GB1. And to this day (2023/2024), it is this working fine. I put over 1000+ hours of PS4 & Pro gaming on that TV. The only downside is that it's too old that it has very limited app to use. It has Netflix, Amazon Video, and Vudu. It used to have Pluto TV, but Pluto TV service decided my TV is too old to support it. This anecdotal I personally experience, so it possible that use might panel lottery and get Hisense TV that doesn't work right, or Dirty Screen Effect.
Interesting to see the Filmmaker modes on both of these. Clearly Sony is brighter there intentionally - I think Sony are trying to make Filmmaker mode more popular as it was the dark gray mode before... I might not mind Filmmaker mode as much.
LG has a Movie and Filmmaker mode that sort of brighten and darken the image respectively. It's clear that most folks don't like the dark image that Filmmaker gives them as it neuters most TVs. Why buy a G3 if you'll have it in a mode that looks identical to the C3?
I didn't realize how much the Hisense lacks in detail. I was thinking about getting one. I definitely wont be now.
Sony a80l 65 inch for $2,150 dlls or lg c3 65 inch for 1,570,
I love the sony but is it worth it the 600 plus ?
Here in mexico is just to expensive , i want it for watching movies in a dark room.
What do you recommend me to do.
I dont know why sony in mexico is so expensive,
In 77 inch there is no much diference, the sony a80l is $2.900 and the lg c3 is $2,730
In this case i would pay the exra $170 and get the A80l, but in 65 inch the sony is way to expensive compared with the lg
X90L just looks so much more natural. You can see so many details and colors are properly palleted. Isnt sony 10 bit and Hisense 8bit?
Is the Sony worth the 200 more?
Both are great TV’s, a joy to watch but my money will stay on the A80L… maybe even the 95L next year
Great comment. Just buy SONY.
Just purchased the 100" Hisense @ 2999.00, paying 7999 for the Sony just does not make sense for the minimal performance advantage.
That BABY in the pic is like the CUTEST i have seen all month.
Which tv would work better with a ps5 ?
The Sony has slightly better compatibility with itself. The Hisense has better gaming options that would be better for PC. Such as 1440p and 144hz neither of which the PS5 can utilize. For you I'd go with the Sony . Hope this helps and thank you for watching
Gotta see what people are talking about with X90L gaming/VRR local dimming. Is it bad?
"Local dimming" isn't bad it's the same with it off or on. "Motion blur reduction" is what is disabled when you turn VRR on.
@@asole2847 I mean I have an X900H capable of VRR gaming right now, but no local dimming if VRR is activated. If the X90L has no/minimal local dimming with VRR activated, I'm not really willing to upgrade.
@@suedepup It has local dimming with VRR on or off. However when it's in Game mode the "Black Adjust", and "Adv. contrast" is disabled. However you can get good black levels, and contrast still by lowering "Gamma", and "Black levels". I even ran a test to see how it compared to "Cinema" picture mode with out lowering black levels, and gamma then changing "ADV. contrast". to high, and "Black adjust" to high (since it is enabled even while gaming in Cinema) and switching back, and forth between Game, and Cinema my Game mode settings looked better. However when I lowered Gamma, and Black levels for Cinema as well as keeping Adv Contrast, and Black levels on High Cinema looked better. I also wondered how the game play was on Cinema but when I tried the input lag was sluggish.
@@asole2847 Ok, thanks. People keep mentioning the game mode local dimming is scaled back a lot in game mode on the X90L, but at least it's got LD with VRR enabled. I'm testing out a Hisense U8K right now which allows you to use any picture preset when you play games with no lag thanks to ALLM. I'm not sure Sony will introduce such a thing next year, but I guess we will find out in a couple of weeks. I may return the Hisense and wait for a 2024 TV. Thanks for the info.
The hisense would need dialed back on the color a little bit. Otherwise its very impressive. The x90 has a lot more blooming in the video and its clear its not a mini-led a lot of the time.
They def did their best to make it accurate though.
I’m in the market for a new 4K TV and I’ve watched most of your videos and seems Sony’s are better but now to pick which Sony 😅
Thank you so much for watching! The new Sony line is just around the corner.
i think u can make it look like the sony. u gotta mess with the hues, white balance ect..
SONY KING!!!
Sony X90 L ❤🙌🏼
I mean after joelster setting..
Yeah buddy!!!
Not a professional but after holster picture setting my u8k 100 is amazing
I bought the 55 inch sony x90l..this is way better than my Sony x95K Mini Led..reminds me of a better version of my Sony 900F, which was my favorite TV...so bright and colors really pop and it's a sharp TV at 55 inches..I've learned smaller Tv's look sharper than huge Tv's with streaming content, which is almost all i watch..i'm not really a movie guy..I LOVE my sony X90L...wish i could sell my dull and washed out Sony X95K..but nobody online wants to pay more than $300 for stuff
My 85 inch x90L arrives tomorrow. l
Soon for me, waiting for my Sonos Arc to arrive so I can install them both together
@@tyalderdice2325 How is it? any complains?
@@moens404 it’s been great. I don’t see any issues with the blacks. My not complaint is on my end if I was another 8”-1 foot away it would be even better.
@@moens404 I have had it since the 2nd of February so just over a month. Zero complaints
They say the X90L has better Dolby Vision performance than the QM8 and U8K, which is why I chose it over the QM8 and U8K.
Who are 'they'?
@@thewanderer8 AVS Forum and Stop the FOMO.
Hope you are loving it, my friend, and thank you for watching .
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY My family, friends, and I have been having difficulty mounting my 98-lb 85-inch X90CL. Since Sunday, it's been held by an Onkron N1L ceiling mount which makes my display shake every time I apply pressure to it for tasks such as managing connections. Yet the mount is rated to hold a display weighing a maximum of 150 lbs. I then got an Onkron TS1891 stand which is rated to hold a display weighing a maximum of 198 lbs. I'm waiting to try it, but the people I depend on have their hands tied and I don't know when we'll get to it. Here is a video of my pre-X90CL configuration. Wall mounting isn't an option for me. If I put it by my built-in shelves, the ceiling fan could block the view or even hit the X90CL. I plan on somehow putting my X90CL in place of the display in the video of my current configuration. By the way, the stand in my video is rated to hold a display weighing a maximum of 110 lbs. The plasma it's currently holding weighs 31 lbs. Here's my pre-X90CL configuration. ua-cam.com/users/shortsp0iolb3BkgQ
nobody beats Sony processing. i'd pay for that.
I just returned the QM8 85" because it was blurry. Upscaling was awful. Some qm8's are defective, they are blurry. I have not seen the U8K yet. I was delivered an X90L a couple of days ago and it's a very good overall TV, but not as good as some past TV'S I have owned. Watching low-bit rate content (Sling) the Sony is much better in clarity. I also watched Hulu+live you tube TV. The Sony has much better clarity. In HDR The Sony is also much sharper than the qm8, but the QM8 black levels and brightness are incredible and far superior. If the Qm8 had better processing, it could potentially be the best mini-led on the market. The Sony x90l lacks a deep black level, lacks some contrast, and has more of a flat "bland look" in Hdr, than the Qm8. I will probably order a U8K (there are none), if I can. Last thing. XR clear works really well because Sony have chosen to show background content more in focus as opposed to having lots of Bokeh, therefore the overall image looks sharper.
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What TVs have you owned that were better than the X90L?
All the higher end Sonys since 2013. I also have the Samsung QN90A. Two TCL 6 series. This year's X90L is incredible. Its very close to the X93L and the X95L but half the price. I strongly believe this is the tv for most people.@@majicogarcia8417
Hisense taking over
This is so hard for me to choose between. The Sony looks better in most cases and it's processor is superior. The hisense clearly has better blacks and color punch, which I really like. That said, I hate blooming with a passion and I can see it much more on the Sony in this demo. The Hisense has the other thing I hate that I visibly see in this video, dirty screen effect. I have to upgrade to an LED due to I'm positive I'd get burn in on an OLED and OLED is so dang expensive. Ugh
You are over-emphasising the 'problem' and effective of blooming on these 2 TVs (again). I spent an hour with both tvs yesterday as well as two OLEDs (A80L and an S90C.). Blooming was practically impossible to spot - you had to have your nose to the screen and be really, really looking out for it. I doubt anyone will spot it 99.999% of the time. Compared to the OLEDs, they were superb, with bright, sharp colourful images. I'd probably say it was a toss up between the U8K an A80L. Once you have any of these 4 TVs in your room on their own, however, you would be pretty pleased with any of them. I'd buy the U8K first, then the A80L, then the X80L, then the S90C.
Agreed. I have a lg Cx, g1, and H8K and I would have to say the H8K is definitely brighter and once calibrated the blacks and color comes near to oleds
How much lag is introduced by Sony's fancy image processing that makes things pop so beautifully? I'm rocking last year's U8H, which is able to do most of what you're seeing on the U8K, but what's great is that it can do that and still have maybe 15ms latency. If Sony introduces like 135ms latency to get the pop, then it's a harder sell for me, because I use my "TV" as a monitor.
what does lag do to movie or tv viewing? that would be more for gaming; which you can do gaming mode to remove processing. if you only do gaming this is not for you.
@@porksandbean I use TVs like these as a monitor for my PC, so it's a big mish-mash of use cases. I can tolerate triple digit delay when just watching UA-cam and chatting with friends on Discord, but would maybe need to manually switch into game mode when it's time to game. I'm just curious how much lag I'd be dealing with, that's all.
85 x95l my dream :DX
Just got the x90l yesterday and the only downsides compared to my oled are Dse and pretty bad viewing angles. But head on, it keeps up with my s95b and then shines through on bright content. The built in os is kinda a pain and does not look or feel premium unfortunately.
Remember, I came from an oled, and for whatever reason the blooming isn't that noticeable to me. It more than makes up for the little you do see, with an overall brighter picture and bright highlights. I'm loving how sony handle the highlights and not dimming them down. You get maximum impact from light and dark content with this tv.
How much til the angle matters? Is it noticeable If say you’re 2 feet from the left/right of the edge of the tv, within say 10 feet
@Cons2911 You will see a little more blooming or raised black bars at two feet, and past that you will start loosing brightness and color.
@Cons2911 I would definitely go for a s90c or qn85c if you're worried of viewing angles for other people watching.
@@tylerthere5832 I’m not sure yet, maybe I’ll go back and see them in person again. Usually it will just be me and my wife, maybe my son. Thanks for the input
Might get the U8K, my Sony X900E finally quit...😢😢😢
I wonder why the rematch?
Comparing other brands to SONY is really silly because the next time SONY loses a REAL test (Picture out of the box, Accuracy of colors/directors intent and Overall quality/longevity of the TV) will be the FIRST time they have lost. And this absolutely excludes any "gaming" comparison because that is not what a TV was EVER designed for. That's called a MONITOR.
@@steveludwig4200why do you keep on spamming this manifesto? Why are Sony fans so fanatical?
At 13:57 the Tiger simply looks better on the Hisesne. The tiger looks pale on the x90 in comparison. Sony fans will say its more "realistic" but i used to work at a zoo. Tigers are vibrant, deep orange in direct sunlight. Imagine if Sony were so generous as to bring Quantum Dot color to its mid-range customers. One can only hope.
Only true if you don't adjust the settings for the Sony.
What about the plants and trees at 4:30 . Is this how how real trees and plants look, fluorescent green?
@@majicogarcia8417 it sort of depends on what plants and where you are. Temperate plants and higher latitudes not really but being from South Florida closer to the equator with more tropical and sub-tropical plants around I can say in mid-day spring or summer sun you'd be surprised how bright and saturated tropical plants can be.
The real test would be a demo of a landscape with muted colors. Overcast with high latitude vegetation. If u8k can accurately represent the muted greens or if its stuck in vibrant. If it can then I'd say u8k wins in color hands down. Me owning a u8h and playing through Senua right now I can say it can do the muted overcast look very good as well as super vibrant scenes.
Sony iş the best . Hisense is ok .
I hv been using so called the main brand . Ie Sony , Phillips , Toshiba . These tv will never die on you . 15 yrs of use is not a problem . That means all the components inside is of high quality durable .
As for Hisense , tcl , while producing value for money , their existence is new , not tested . You don’t want a tv that can only last less than 5 years .
As much as I love OLED I have to admit that this SONY X90L looks outstanding. The XR Clear really makes this tv dazzling. U8K looks good as well but I definitely prefer the X90L for my use case. 😊
Doesn't matter if you are going LED or OLED...as long as you go SONY you cannot lose.. Congratulations on a great choice sir!
@@snowflakesfell4407 The U8K is just more vibrant in those scenes , and has more contrast (you can easily tell that's the case by looking at how washed out the rest of the picture looks on the Sony compared to the U8K, and it's something that you can easily fix if you want vibrant colors on the X90L from my own exp.)
@@snowflakesfell4407there ppl on our planet has this thing caleld--selective hearing.
In business school n sales…the most effective thing is sell ppl d BEST product that they already decided to be BEST. So once 2 things emerge, they will be willing to pay 2-3X on a perceived “premium” . That’s the principle of BRANDING.
In Busienss school 2nd year Markeing Level 2. That’s how our Business professor Picking Apart 2 Brands that throughly manipulate customers to buy their shady mid range or entry level. Guess what…. SONY, n BMW. BMW was great in Germany, in order to come to USA to compete with FORD GM,,,all sorts, they have to INVENT Tier down BMW X3 , like HOnda Civic Tin can with a cosmetic body . To get ppl to buy it but using the x6 x7..as its pristege . Same as Sony, that they use flagship to BOOST its brand image, but they make X95K so 85” so large. Most ppl cant get it. They end up getting smaller ones. N entry ones, so within 3 yr they get bored , they will “upgrade”. Ppl buy A95L are not going to upgrade at least 4-5 yrs. I can bet money on it. D population buying X90L are going to upgrade 2x as fast ast U8k buyers lol. 😂
Then don't watch lobster shows... LOL. It's proven fact that SONY TVs are the most accurate picture out of the box BY FAR and they also offer the best adjustments to achieve whatever "look" you want. There is a reason inferior brands like LG, Samsung. TCL and Hisense brag about "how many dimming zones" and how "bright" and how many LEDs they have...because they can ONLY sell SPECS compared to SONY selling quality and picture. You will notice NO brands claim a more accurate picture or better representing "creator's intent". Buy whatever you want.
@@steveludwig4200 i absolutely disagree. SONY is NEVER accurate. D MOST accurate TV they do NOT have in Canada or USA, it’s called SHARP AQUOS Quatrum Chorma. -it has 4 basic SHADES to blend into colors, not SONY RGB 3 color blends. In fact SHARP to this date has pattern that they are d ONLY company can product the most accurate shades. If u change red/blue/green. ….ALl OTHER colors will look funny, more metena, more warm . Al the oranges, browns, all colrs will be effected. SONY is oNLY Claimed to be best in the North America small bubble. Not world stage. The funny thing is we do not think we are in small bubble but we think we are d Center of world. SHARP Aquos Quatum/Chroma can produce 2 billions of extra shades than SONY any time . SONY has dense Pestle color for red/green/blue. All SONY OLED looks blue. All night scene on snow the snow looks blue tinted. Not white. The light grey looks blue tinted. To me that DENSE sever BLUE glass bottle tint once u see it u cant get over it. It’s just cool very depressing .
They have been selling Sharp Aquos Quatum/Chroma 4k 8k all this time in Japan. Seems they Might come to USA next year with their QD-OLED .but seeing how disturbing thoes influncers like Andrew Robinson n Digital Trends doing to HIsense U8K n UX, i really think SHARP is not taking the risk having their flagship being ripped apart online like UX was. Cuz SONY LG did that to SHARP ALREADY to their tv long ago drove SHARP tv to be in $2 billion dollar debt, HIsense saved the brand by buying it last min which Sharp bought itself back later.
Why don’t you film your vids in HDR?
Simply because not everyone's devices are hdr or support HDR. I filmed that way for a year and wasn't worth the headache. Thank you for watching
I've seen enough reviews. Sony X90L looks night and day better and more natural looking than Hisense U8K and TCL QM8. Wish it was $999
X90L👏👏
I have no problem with the Hisense picture quality, but I’m concerned about a buggy experience and screen issues. The reason I’d consider paying more is for a tv that looks as good, give or take, but will be reliable and have good customer service if needed. Last thing I want is the have to replace or service or just ignore a defect on a 75 inch screen.
hisense price good and quality good
I bought the SONY X90L about two weeks ago over this Hisense and the TCL QM8, and love the TV. Way more accurate than either of the Hisense or TCL mini-LED's. However, maybe you can comment on the 'black screen' issue that pops up on the SONY where it maintains the video and audio feed but the picture goes black and only comes back after unplugging (i.e. resetting) the TV. I have a call into SONY technical support right now for feedback. Per Google, this is not an uncommon issue. If this issue continues, I'll have no choice but to return the SONY for something else, which I really don't want to do.
I own the X90L, and I don't have this issue. Have you tried unplugging the power cord from your display, and making sure it's properly connected? (I know it sounds like useless advice but unplugging things usually fixes electronics in general) If it doesn't work I wouldn't blame you if you went for something else.
Maybe your particular unit has this problem... You can ask them for a replacement.. we don't have any problem with our 20 days old X90L... 😊
@@maprabhakaran2582 True, counting today it's been 50 days for me, and I been using it 8hrs a day.
@@maprabhakaran2582 Perhaps my unit does have an issue, but this is not a unique issue with this TV if you spend some time Googling it.
Just realized we don’t even have u8k here, only u7..
To be truthful, the colors look more vibrant on the Sony, but Hisense has a cheaper price and my favorite color of turquoise Hisense logo...lol. I still probably would go with Sony seeing how Sony seems to be more lifelike and will probably own for years, and Sony lasts longer being Japanese and not Chinese like Hisense. I just hear of too many stories of Hisense not lasting long, so I believe spending more will pay you back in the long run. Truthfully, I would buy the A80L or A75L.
Getting a ps5 for the holidays, torn between these models!
Sony feels safer, wife is H.O.H. subwoofer may be a downside, anyone able to sway me technically why one vs the other??
I need help! Bright room, watching sports, movies and streaming typical content. No gaming. Was looking for a 85" until this 100" showed up.
I'm also in no rush and could wait until the January Superbowl Sales!
Help!
Hinsense U8K 100" $3,000 (I have it on order)
Sony X90L 85" $2,000
Sony X93L 85" $3,500
Sony A80L 77" $2,700
TCL S5 98" $2,500
TCL QM8 85" $2,000
LG C3 77" $2,500
I’d grab d UX totally.
Have you considered the QN95C?
Comparing other brands to SONY is really silly because the next time SONY loses a REAL test (Picture out of the box, Accuracy of colors/directors intent and Overall quality/longevity of the TV) will be the FIRST time they have lost. And this absolutely excludes any "gaming" comparison because that is not what a TV was EVER designed for. That's called a MONITOR.
I went with the X90L. On Amazon, I read the 1 star reviews for the U8K and X90L.
How is it so far?
It doesn't matter which looks best with demo material, you need to compare with real content
It actually does matter. I've also compared real content. Can't show real content due to copyright. Thanks for watching
The Hisense U8K 100 inch TV is back in stock at Best Buy at 2999. Buyer beware! The performance of The 100 inch is not the same as their 55 65, and 75 smaller panels. There is a substantial drop off in picture performance, build quality, processing, and panel. Not even close! There are no free lunches
I was thinking about buying the 100inch...are you saying that the 100 quality is less compared to the smaller sizes U8k? I looked at it in a shop for few minutes and with the demo looked nice..
Sorry Brian.... The Sony picture is alot better.......😅😅
Don't be sorry my friend 😁