The Pro's 👍 and Cons 👎 of A Borisbus Routemaster (N.B.F.L.)
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- Опубліковано 25 жов 2019
- Doubledeckeranton shows the 'pros & cons' of a Borisbus Routemaster, also known as a 'New Bus For London'. 🚍🤔💭👍👎
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I don't know weather I'm just being very short minded but surely adding a barrier to the back of the bus like a train station and you need to tap in your oyster card to open the barriers and you can walk up stairs. Of course there'd be a lot of pros and cons to that and it'd cost a lot of money but surely it's wasting money to earn it back later because the amount of money the buses are losing because of that design flaw is ridiculous
Yes Jack...the design has a lot to do with what is happening on these boris-buses regarding 'fare evasion'.
I'm hoping we can keep these NBFL buses for many years to come if we can reduce the 'fare evasion situation'...!!! 🤔💭
Barriers on the last door would probably be a good solution but I can see it backing up pretty badly with crowds and kids.
@@Litany_of_Furyyeah that'd be the biggest issue. Really just a stupid design flaw that's cost the buses thousands if not millions. Going to need to be sorted one way or another that's for sure
@@Jack-ii8vi Should probably just remove the back doors and wall it up, still a fully functioning bus and the middle door readers work as well as normal buses. Overall the bus design is better than ones before to ride, but it's just not economical.
@@neilmclean783 I guess that's down to opinion. I think buses should conform to society.
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Anton: Don't actually need these sunglasses on
*Proceeds to to put them on*
Lol...🤣😎
Lol
Maybe i well check my timetable in school
Ya know it's been a long day when u sit in bed and listen to a guy talk about buses
...yes...buses can be boring, but I try and make them interesting to watch...!!!
@@DoubleDeckerAnton and that my friend is true you really do make them interesting hope ya have a good halloween Mr Bus Man
@@xryan-lxix4694 ...I will do...il be working as usual...hopefully I wont have eggs thrown at my bus...🤣
Anton you never fail to entertain me, even when explaining the least interesting things to me, i have the littlest interest in busses but keep coming back to watch you, youre such a great person and i think youre a very underrated youtuber, keep doing you and continue to keep us entertained :)
Good to see the common uploads again Anton, really brightens up my day! :) - Keep it up 👍🏻💥
Also your company logo can be seen on a sticker inside where the side destination blind is. Just a heads up
Thanks 😊
Its bad to hear some people dont respect the rules and dont pay for ticket
Yes it's always happened on the 3 door buses here, even when we had bendy buses in 2005 before I moved here!
@@DoubleDeckerAnton In Australia Mykie ticket system on buses u must scan next to driver 1stvdoor only
@@CommunityToursAustralia ...it would be great to film the differences in each country around the world. There is different levels of respect for the bus driver around the world.
Is so bad : Romania have this problem :( .
@@CommunityToursAustralia they stoppped the back door entry but I like the back door entry
I love watching your videos, keep it up anton , drive safely x
Thankyou Kerrie. I miss doing my videos and posting them regularly and keeping in touch with my subscribers! 😀👌
Love your videos just gained my PCV license through national Express west Midlands cannot wait to get on the road!
Your channel gets better and better and Anton!!
When I was in London visiting in November last year I got on the Number 12 from Westminster to Oxford Circus and we got on at the rear of the borris bus and it still worked
Great videos Anton, absolutely loved it!
Thanks...👍
Hope they get well soon! I really feel sympathy for Bus Drivers
Is there a possibility you may record a journey from one terminus to the other (obviously cutting out when passengers get on and off the bus)?
That would mean recording while driving
Very true, thought I said that but my comment seems to have been removed 😞
I can remember that Lothian Buses had a boris bus from Go Ahead London at the 2014 open day. I can still remember the number and that is LT 129. I have to admit that love the design of them too.
Saw you the other day, waved as we crossed paths at Brixton Police Station. Was driving a 345!!
Anton what a great vlog, I love it, Keep it up
More to come Andre, I miss my weekly vlogs. 😁
Amazing Video and people really are not bothered to scan their cards on Boris Buses but the boarding has changed on Route 8
Inused to drive this one on 168. Love it. The driving position and I like the drive to.
Yes, I see the 168s at Elephant & Castle a lot. The driving position is very comfortable and spacious!
@@DoubleDeckerAnton I have seen you there a few times 👍
Your The Best Bus UA-camr Anton i said going morning to a 86 driver and he said your welcome
My dad is a bus driver for 5 years now in London. I started to come with him in the bus from Wdn Bus Garage to Aldwych on no. 6 and at Piccadilly Circus I’ve seen no.9 and other routes with this 3 door bus and I absolutely love it! I hope Metroline will buy some for Willesden Garage...
Wdn = ???
Wimbledon?
@@daroldcarold3443 Willesden Green I meant
They will never be the same as the original routemasters
No sir! The older ones look better and are iconic. A true symbol of London. 🙌🇬🇧
@@kelvinbremont1341 And to be honest all the new buses are pretty crap the good old Routemasters atlantians Olympians Alx 400sand the presidents are the best in my opinion.
I love the breeze on these buses
Yes...they can be drafty...!!! 🌬🚍
Anton you are an inspiration
Good video Anton! I like the routemaster buses but I definitely agree about the leg room!
Yes the legroom is not great on these buses!
Cool video showcasing the Borismasters! I think that buses with bigger windows (eg. E400, Gemini 2) should be installed with tinted front windows in order to reduce sun glare.
One thing that I noticed about the enviro buses is that when it's warm outside they can be like an oven ( that's why I sit at the back ) and the new buses where I live have double deckers which are the same make and model but they are much cooler in summer as the air con works and I'm getting a bus at 10.37 and when ever I get on I always smile and say good morning driver and when I get off at the other end I smile and say thank you driver enjoy the rest of your day
Epic video as always Anton. It bad people evade the bus fares, they try it where I live too & the buses only have 1 door.
I always say hi to the bus driver & ask how they are & I say thank you to them & give them a biscuit bar too as I'm getting off the bus. I know some of the bus drivers round my way & we have a bit of banter & it makes them laugh. Hope you have a great day today. Can you say hi to Chris for me please. 😀🚌👋🏻😊
Lovely, Anton
...Hi wakeful...👋
Lovely video Anton!
Thanks...!!! 👍
It's cool you can show the route number now Anton!
Great video again Anton.
There are more reviews for this bus that I have done.
This was a random review that I did in September.
Nice to see the rollsign.
Nice! I wish Harrow had some. Although we have SRMs
I ❤ SRM's. I still have to film them. I've had a video idea for the SRM's since 2018.
I love SRMs too so happy PM has 2
Great video Anton and very informative and the borisbus has its good and bad things like everything in the world. Also good to see the sun and your doing Chris’ route and are you allowed to show route numbers now?
I'm careful not to show 'too much'...!!!
I'm trying to be real and show Londons buses as they are!
DoubleDeckerAnton That’s good your careful and showing route numbers and destinations shouldn’t go against the policy as routes change companies and also the borisbus is a popular tourist icon so good your showing as much as possible and they wouldn’t be interested in companies so it doesn’t matter if your not allowed.
The worst thing is the wheelchair button. Keeps getting pressed by people by accident standing there.
Yes...it happens on the MCV Evoseti too...!!! 🤣
Love ur vids Anton
That’s a cool looking bus..I see fare evasion is an issue in London as well as America! 😢 Nice video as always! 😎
Very true. In my city they say let em ride. Rather lose 2 bucks instead of spending 25k on a new window.
Yes...its quite a bad issue here in London since the 3 door buses were introduced!
Leighton Elliott Yup!! Gotta choose your battles and just let some stuff go..some people really become angry when confronted about fare..even though they are wrong. I’ll never understand!
@@BusDriverLife I usually let em get a free ride once, then if they become a repeat offender start using those Chevroleggs. Battles are chosen wisely, I could careless about the bus, that said, I don't want to get spit on, stabbed or shot. Safety first and gotta know when to let it go. I will say it's much easier to let em ride free, makes my job much easier.
Leighton Elliott Agreed!!
Que agradable bus a la vista
Anton you need to be careful of the adverts on the bus for go-ahead 😐
Nice video 👍
I don't mind the New Routemasters that much, for me I have taken many photographs of them (this year I've managed to get photos of the first two operated by Arriva) along with most of the ones that the company you work for have got; although I'm still after a photo of the very last one that entered into service around 2 years ago on Route 267
Nice video Anton! Since you are driver for the 12, have you ever driven the unique tri-alxe BCI Enterprises (TA1) Before?
I saw you on the 35 on MHV63 on Wednesday
Can you show us the inside of the cab a bit more? Always curious about the buttons and stuff. Maybe you could do a video on that? :)
Nice video and nice to see you uploading again. There should be more ticket inspectors on the three door buses if you ask me here in Dublin we have a tram system called the Luas and since the driver cant stop you not everyone likes paying on it however there are lots of ticket inspectors on it. Also what do you think the current issues surrounding Wrightbus the maker of these buses.
It's sad what's happened to Wrightbus. The industry is changing fast and manufacturers need to be 'on top of their game'. Its survival of the fittest or the ones that adapt to their ever changing surroundings in this tough industry!
It is sad indeed and I hope they can get back to making a profit and the workers get their jobs under the new owners
Nice video mate!😃I’ve seen people get on through the back doors on regular buses e.g. E400s, just so that they don’t have to pay but some drivers just let them on and don’t bother and I find this stupid as £1.50 isn’t that much
TFL have a ongoing campaign on these route masters which is adding a new door button so only the middle door and front door open and the old button opens the back door instead of 1 button opening all 3 doors
I do like these busses. Never thaught about the upper deck windows though now it makes allot of sense vs e400s. Would like love to drive one but sadly don't think I will ever get the chance. I do wonder how popular a 1 door version of this bus would be maybe retaining the rear door as a form or emergency exit , I'm sure hants and Dorset trim could work some magic there.
Is there any air conditioning on these buses and if there is can the driver controll
Bus Enthusiast Wellington yes there is which I believe has a lot of problems
Yes, and it fails so much they ended up putting in opening windows (which when it does work, defeats the object of AC!). Not sure the driver can control it though.
@@ce9934 they have air con but most bus company removes them to save fuel costs
@@choppapop2027 no, they just never regas them so it never works. TfL don't specifically require air con but the majority of older deckers have a bad (required by TfL) air cooling system which is quite frankly not fit for purpose.
@@ce9934 this is why company's dont have drivers saving cost left right centre drove the street lights when they were brand new air con fantastic 12 weeks later all disconnected to save dough and that was the answer from the unite union not naming which company as it's not fair to say but in the summer it was like a greenhouse on wheels. Best bus on planet for driver enviros and gemini top notch and guess what with working aircons cant beat the old busses and not forgetting the Dennis.
Nice Video Anton! Have You Driven The Tri-Axle Bus?
I did drive the tri- axle a few weeks ago...!!!
A video will be out in the coming months ahead!
Sad to see the manufacturer of the NBFL, Wrightbus has gone into administration.
Anway, just sitting here thinking, it'd be cool if you could get a chance to drive other kinds of buses from manufacturers the way the car You Tubers do on their channels. Say an invite from ADL, Optare or whoever. Keep uo the good work, enjoying the channel 👍👍👍
Yes if I'm invited, il definitely visit them...!!! 😀🔝👍
@@DoubleDeckerAnton well, if Mr JWW, Shmee etc etc gets them for cars, I think you should with buses. No difference, just a bit bigger lol
I heard that route 19 is gonna get these buses saw 4 yesterday and 1 today all off the NB4Ls will be from the route 48
I would have thought the signage would have been digital
London and Edinburgh both spec roller blinds on all there buses
@@Sierraomega1991 I think you see the roller blinds better
Hallo Anton, I see a hole above the window next to the first door. These is also a circle around it. What is the purpose of that hole?
It might be a drain for the upper deck floor when water drains out!
Can you send a few to New York? They would work well on the SBS routes. And they should be two-man buses!
I think that something adapted to NYC's Select Bus Service would be articulated buses but European designed (European buses have much wider doors) and with 4 doors as most EU articulated buses are available in both 3 and 4 doors configurations.
These videos are always so informative and are my favourites 😃 which is your favourite bus to drive Anton? 🚌
I like all of them in moderation, but the Enviro Hybrid and Volvo Hybrid are my favourites.
DoubleDeckerAnton thanks for replying!
Could there be 2 Oyster card machines on the front doors and only have front door entrance and turnpike type of machine on the other 2 doors for Exit Only.
Get well soon cris
I went on the number 12 on Saturday, what a coincidence
I subscribed!
Bring some volunteer bus Condutors on them, 🙂
0:17 i live near there lol
£1.50 for unlimited buses (and Croydon Tramlink) for one hour (70 minutes actually apparently) is extremely good value for money. Where I live it’s £3.20 for a single from my house to the hospital for work! A 30/40 minute journey!
The biggest thing I hated was you could only open all the doors, you can close them individually but when you needed to open the doors, one button opened all 3 at once. Not ideal when no one wants to get off and only letting people board. It's a small niggle but I hated that.
They wouldn't lose so much money if they brought back conductor's to ensure everyone has paid once on the bus plus it'll open up more jobs #Bringbackbusconductors
TFL need to clear out a £100 million debt firstly hence why pretty much all the bus routes have seen a curtailment and a decrease in frequency to save them money
Yeah, but unfortunately, as somebody who drove London buses in the 90s after growing up in the 70s and 80s with conductors on London buses I have seen it go from there to 'pay driver' buses that soon needed to be fitted with assault screens and alarms. I don't think we as a society can be trusted to follow a very simple instruction such as 'Please refrain from beating the sh*t out of the conductor' Until driver assault screens are no longer justified due to a more enlightened public (don't hold your breath), they and the employment of conductors are mutually exclusive.
Which Enviro busses do you use? Here we use Enviro 500 and Enviro 500 MMC or "Go Anywhere Edition" busses, they do have pretty large windows, but sun isn't as bad. Ours are tri-axle design, 1 in front, 2 in rear. They are quite cosy, but the air is kind of stale. I took a picture today of black soot that came from the AC vent holes, I hope you don't get that on your Enviro's
What are your thoughts on the Wright Streetdecks? Probably my favourite bus ever, the new route master being the second.
I've not been on them much, so I cant say until I've driven one! 😊
DoubleDeckerAnton I drove them in Brighton... horrible retarders but nice steering and power. Gutless uphill though.
I've always thought the middle door and front stair case was pointless on these busses
The ‘Front door only’ payments start on route 8, will spread to other routes like a virus
The idea of this bus was good as it makes it easy for the passangers to get in faster, especially at busy times at big stops....but sadly not the best for the uncivilised London.....
It hasnt been a great success, especially on revenue! In terms of revenue lost, it's by the far the worst!
@@DoubleDeckerAnton I know. Is not the right mentality here for that bus.
DoubleDeckerAnton This’ll probably sound stupid, but do you think fare evasion would be reduced if either the driver or a conductor sitting at the back of the bus sold tickets, like a single journey ticket, return ticket or a day ticket, that was valid on all modes, accepting payment with cash and cards, and there were ticket stampers by each set of doors for people who had bought tickets from newsagents, supermarkets, machines, kiosks, etc.?
Do you like driving vehicles with the assault screens? I've never driven one personally, but I feel as though it would make it feel claustrophobic?
Every TfL bus has one, so I'm sure it just feels like the norm now. This has a pretty big cab too, compared to some other buses.
My favourite bus is Wright Pulsar 2
I like the new Routemasters
Yay I’m early!!
You definitely are Riley...😀👌
DoubleDeckerAnton 🤘
Are there London buses with LED direction indicators?
UA-cam-Kanal these have led’s
can u try to drive a bus in chingford or walthamstow depending what fleet u drive for so 97 and 215 are Stagecoach 158 is Arriva W11 and 385 and 397 is CT PLUS and 357 is GoAhead
New route masters are getting withdrawn slowly from 2019,2020,2021 all route masters should be withdrawn
...yes it looks like it...!!!
I hoped more of the SRMs would replace them as they look like them, but Wright has gone into administration, so it looks like we wont get anymore built! 😢
DoubleDeckerAnton Wright have actually been saved i believe albeit now under a different name :)
Why
Anton they need someone on the buses to stand and watch people pay when they get on, remember they had conductors?
good Moring
How big is a London destination board? There has to be a lot of roll blinds in there to show all destinatios
Probably a few km worth, yes. ;)
A blind is interchangeable, it will only show the routes covered from that depot
one of the reasons wright went bust was beacuse sadik Khan cannceled a mega order of the Borris bus. shame but at least the word on the street is their back on deck after finding an investor.
My issues were narrow passageway on ground floor on rush hour, the rear stare case was to steep, leg room and shape of bulkhead front upside was uncomfortable on my legs, the seats were to hard, door buzzers, whole bus was a failure, whole idea of it was to reduce operational costs, being a hybrid, for me the passenger, a very bad design, quicker they are off the road, the better.
Boris 👏👏👏boris👏👏👏boris👏👏👏
You love to ramble on about people not paying :P What's your opinion on multi door boarding systems in other countries? I've not seen many actually fare evading in other countries with a similar system in place, and it's upsetting that people in Britain do continue, as I mean tbh having more doors is a benefit to them (faster loading times), and they're abusing it.
Please vote for Susan Hall so they'll be more New Routemasters
Yes, majority of people don't pay or touch on. As an Australian bus driver myself, I see it far too often... Got to a position where I try not to care. Yes,I got assaulted.. yes also verbally abused... Yes bus had its windows smashed and graffitied on.... It's a tough gig... Take care Antonio.... I know it irritates you and me when people don't pay....also when young teenagers graffiti the bus in front of you! But your safety is more important than anything else!
A lot of people probably have travelcards already so they don't need to touch in
This. When I've hopped on a Boris bus without touching in, that is why, though I normally board up front now. When I tried to board a non-Boris bus through the middle doors the driver threw a hissy. :)
They should just block off the rear doors and keep the middle doors and oyster machine and keep front door
Yo what up Anton
Your the 1st comment...😁🔝
so boris wants these buses on the roads, the borisbuses are becoming like the bendy buses were people avoid taping their oyster card
They are making more electric buses and smarthybrids for london now and the enviro400h hybrid and mmchybrids and Borismaster will be withdrawn in 2019,2020,2021,2022 because TFL are starting ordering electric buses and smart hybrids which will be part of london now
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Can't these Routemaster buses be converted to electric and hybrid, just take them to the bus garage and get them converted, Seem to be a waste of time design and government money.
Pay a clippy to be on the bus and that would stop the fare evasion
wait for new routemaster fan saying that the cons are pros
The 48 route got withdrawn,the new route masters on the 48 got withdrawn 2019 and the 67 new route masters are getting withdrawn by 2020
Uhh no the 48 new routemasters are on the 19 and the 67 new routemasters will go to the 19 as well
I think i saw you today at vue woodgreen cinema.. was that you ? Tall
What I don't like is that there are no grab handles!
These buses do my local 111
Do you accept bus passes in London
The boris bus will never compare to the workhorse that is the classic Routemaster
Yo mate how are you doing
I'm good thanks.
How are you.....
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