I HIGHLY recommend 'The King of Kings' if you're looking for a good film adaptation of Jesus. It's the first time the story of Jesus was depicted on screen, and it definitely does it justice imo. It is a silent film, but the visuals are so well constructed and while everything isn't Biblically accurate, I think this film captures the spirituality of the story of Jesus. 'The King of Kings' (1927) directed by Cecil B. Demille!
I have no doubt about that this is another impressive adaption alongside the ones I mentioned. I just have to pass on watching it because of the reasons I mentioned.
I was a photographer and time after I got into history and digital restoring. One thing I learnt is that is plausible to do reconstructions/restorations BUT: 1 Is not "always" possible, 2 one should/must learn where is the limit and where you can work and where you cannot. There is a limit where you are not restoring but adding noise. From the few visual adaptations I watched the only I kinda liked some aspects was the Passion of Christ, even when I don't like Gibson, I think he understood that, where you can "restore" and where you can no longer add. I watched other stuff ocationally, (I feel older movies were better at it), but, meh, you know. I still have to watch the old Ben Hur and read the books, it's in the list, dang I gonna check them now xD. Edit: Btw, I totally agree that one should excercise discernment and wisdom on what builds up and what not for himself on each one's context. That I agree 100%
That's a good way to put it. I would definetly recommend Ben Hur as it isn't a straightforward "Jesus movie" but tells a revenge story with a Jesus twist to it - it's still so great even after 60 years!
@lazarovalex Absolutely. I had the chance to check them years ago, but I was avoiding it because of that. Now I was thinking of giving those a chance because I am more "Word rooted", still, If I see is affecting me, then it should wait xD. I there added that disclamer to the post xD👍👍🙏🙏🙏
What do you think about how Terrence Malick approaches man's relationship with God throughout his films? Very similar to Tarkovsky's films. It's a good subject for a series of videos. I see that style of contemplative cinema very similar to how the everyday relationship with God is, trying to contemplate him in every area of life, no matter how small it may be.
I love a lot of Terrence Malick's films (The Tree of Life, A Hidden Life, Days of Heaven) and I have seen just some of Tarkovsky's and really liked them (Stalker, Andrei Rublev) - have even talked about these films in some of my videos. How different filmmakers approach their relationship through God is indeed a really interesting topic!
I agree, it’s disingenuous to me. Disciples of Christ need to stop wanting to be emotionally driven by the gospel and entertained. It shows a lack of maturity, it’s difficult for many people to just sit down and study the physical word, we need to become studiers of the word, not mere spectators of a film. It takes away the reverence and discipline of the gospel, imo.
I think the depiction of Jesus in BEN-HUR was correct it never showed his face only far off shots and close ups was from back and feet but I think it is better to make movies that uses todays hot topics and culture and tell it in a redemption way think Terrence Mallick films.
Deep thought: I think fiction, from an evolutionary POV, is a waking derivative of a natural phenomenon. We don't talk about it as such, but I think storytelling is based on the universe's great natural storyteller: dreaming. Putting Christ's story in a format modeled on dream narratives is irreverent.
I think storytelling is our attempt to put the meaning of life in order. We try to perceive the world for the most part as cause and effect. Storytelling is as simple as setup, conflict, resolution. These are at least the connection I make as to why we tell stories. But that's a DEEP topic.
I don't usually like them much either. They make Jesus so flat. He gets depicted totally void of humor and lacking His spitfire personality. The disciples look way more competent than they were. The pharisees become cardboard cutout villains. They are often soooo lazy.
When imperfect humans attempt to portray the perfect nature of Christ, they will fail every time. Anything that man tries to ADD to Scripture will be a negative. The goal must always be to portray the stories of the Bible as close to the inspired text as possible. In that case, I think cinematic renderings of the Bible could be wonderful. As for depictions of Christ, the attempt itself is conceding failure. We will never be able to capture the whole glory of God on a screen, and when it comes to God Himself, we cannot settle for anything less.
The contradiction you're talking about is always there. If you're primary goal is try to make a movie as close as possible to the source material, you miss out on the biggest aspects that make films worthwhile: the personal and creative touch. At the same time, adding creativity and innovation is exactly what can create a distorted view of scripture, that will be a lasting impression to people unfamiliar with the Bible.
I love that film and it doesn't fall into the category of a Jesus film for me, because it tells an original story and uses the birth, passion, crucifixion etc. as a narrative framework that puts a twist on the redemption story of Ben Hur, as opposed to putting a twist in the gospels.
@ The movie doesn’t feel to be that “serious” compared to the mainstream, something we non -catholic folks can appreciate, the songs make it a little bit lighthearted to watch
What about Christian edits, like some Jesus edits made me cry and contributed to me getting closer to God but i feel i should avoid them because it feels like idolatry
I think it's a topic where everybody has to draw a personal line wherever it feels right for you. If a piece of content makes me feel closer to God, I think it does its job well. If I feel weird or distant from what is important, that's oftentimes a good sign to not watch something.
I HIGHLY recommend 'The King of Kings' if you're looking for a good film adaptation of Jesus. It's the first time the story of Jesus was depicted on screen, and it definitely does it justice imo. It is a silent film, but the visuals are so well constructed and while everything isn't Biblically accurate, I think this film captures the spirituality of the story of Jesus. 'The King of Kings' (1927) directed by Cecil B. Demille!
I have no doubt about that this is another impressive adaption alongside the ones I mentioned. I just have to pass on watching it because of the reasons I mentioned.
I was a photographer and time after I got into history and digital restoring. One thing I learnt is that is plausible to do reconstructions/restorations BUT: 1 Is not "always" possible, 2 one should/must learn where is the limit and where you can work and where you cannot. There is a limit where you are not restoring but adding noise.
From the few visual adaptations I watched the only I kinda liked some aspects was the Passion of Christ, even when I don't like Gibson, I think he understood that, where you can "restore" and where you can no longer add. I watched other stuff ocationally, (I feel older movies were better at it), but, meh, you know. I still have to watch the old Ben Hur and read the books, it's in the list, dang I gonna check them now xD.
Edit: Btw, I totally agree that one should excercise discernment and wisdom on what builds up and what not for himself on each one's context. That I agree 100%
That's a good way to put it. I would definetly recommend Ben Hur as it isn't a straightforward "Jesus movie" but tells a revenge story with a Jesus twist to it - it's still so great even after 60 years!
@lazarovalex Absolutely. I had the chance to check them years ago, but I was avoiding it because of that. Now I was thinking of giving those a chance because I am more "Word rooted", still, If I see is affecting me, then it should wait xD. I there added that disclamer to the post xD👍👍🙏🙏🙏
What do you think about how Terrence Malick approaches man's relationship with God throughout his films? Very similar to Tarkovsky's films. It's a good subject for a series of videos. I see that style of contemplative cinema very similar to how the everyday relationship with God is, trying to contemplate him in every area of life, no matter how small it may be.
I love a lot of Terrence Malick's films (The Tree of Life, A Hidden Life, Days of Heaven) and I have seen just some of Tarkovsky's and really liked them (Stalker, Andrei Rublev) - have even talked about these films in some of my videos.
How different filmmakers approach their relationship through God is indeed a really interesting topic!
I agree, it’s disingenuous to me.
Disciples of Christ need to stop wanting to be emotionally driven by the gospel and entertained.
It shows a lack of maturity, it’s difficult for many people to just sit down and study the physical word, we need to become studiers of the word, not mere spectators of a film. It takes away the reverence and discipline of the gospel, imo.
Passion of The Christ is the only film thats close to biblical accuracy. Anything besides that is played for entertainment and drama
I know this is among the very best adaptions and I hope the sequel will be successful! I won't be watching it though...
I think the depiction of Jesus in BEN-HUR was correct it never showed his face only far off shots and close ups was from back and feet but I think it is better to make movies that uses todays hot topics and culture and tell it in a redemption way think Terrence Mallick films.
I totally agree!
Deep thought:
I think fiction, from an evolutionary POV, is a waking derivative of a natural phenomenon. We don't talk about it as such, but I think storytelling is based on the universe's great natural storyteller: dreaming. Putting Christ's story in a format modeled on dream narratives is irreverent.
I think storytelling is our attempt to put the meaning of life in order. We try to perceive the world for the most part as cause and effect. Storytelling is as simple as setup, conflict, resolution. These are at least the connection I make as to why we tell stories. But that's a DEEP topic.
Passion of the Christ
Probably the only one I truly dislike is "The Last Temptation of The Christ" with Willem Defoe. It's so heretical and blasphemous I can't watch it.
Yeah, there's some pretty wild stuff in there...
I don't usually like them much either. They make Jesus so flat. He gets depicted totally void of humor and lacking His spitfire personality. The disciples look way more competent than they were. The pharisees become cardboard cutout villains. They are often soooo lazy.
The Chosen actually does a really good job concerning the point you mention
When imperfect humans attempt to portray the perfect nature of Christ, they will fail every time. Anything that man tries to ADD to Scripture will be a negative. The goal must always be to portray the stories of the Bible as close to the inspired text as possible. In that case, I think cinematic renderings of the Bible could be wonderful. As for depictions of Christ, the attempt itself is conceding failure. We will never be able to capture the whole glory of God on a screen, and when it comes to God Himself, we cannot settle for anything less.
The contradiction you're talking about is always there. If you're primary goal is try to make a movie as close as possible to the source material, you miss out on the biggest aspects that make films worthwhile: the personal and creative touch. At the same time, adding creativity and innovation is exactly what can create a distorted view of scripture, that will be a lasting impression to people unfamiliar with the Bible.
Do you like Ben-Hur?
I presume you mean the 1959 masterpiece, and not the cringe remake?
He made a video of it already. ua-cam.com/video/43d6KhIbqjU/v-deo.html
I love that film and it doesn't fall into the category of a Jesus film for me, because it tells an original story and uses the birth, passion, crucifixion etc. as a narrative framework that puts a twist on the redemption story of Ben Hur, as opposed to putting a twist in the gospels.
I highly recommend at least watching Jesus Christ Superstar
That's the musical one right? What's so good about it?
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The movie doesn’t feel to be that “serious” compared to the mainstream, something we non -catholic folks can appreciate, the songs make it a little bit lighthearted to watch
"The Chosen" is poorly written, acted and directed.
I had my issues with the first season but after season 2 it's become an excellent show. Especially season 4 was really well ritten and directed.
Season 1 was ok, 2 & 3 good, 4 is great.
What about Christian edits, like some Jesus edits made me cry and contributed to me getting closer to God but i feel i should avoid them because it feels like idolatry
I think it's a topic where everybody has to draw a personal line wherever it feels right for you. If a piece of content makes me feel closer to God, I think it does its job well. If I feel weird or distant from what is important, that's oftentimes a good sign to not watch something.