Projekt Red fell so hard, even when disregarding Mexico and Yato R she was already outshined by phantom in terms of damage and gravel/kafka in terms of utility (not to mention you don't even need Kafka built for utility reasons). EDIT: should I also mention Agent Vanguards?
Shemare and Tequilla are also good to build for your base. At Promotion 2, they become a highly efficient team for level three gold contracts. +90% acquisition speed and 500 LMD on 4 bar contracts.
And with Mylnar on command center, Tequila Shamare Bibeak combo will often produce 4 gold trade because you probably will leave them on TP for >24 hours 😂 which means you'll get spammed with 2500 LMD
I have all these build except Rockrock. I do agree this list is great. I love my Ashlock, but I think FireWhistle is the more useful pick now. Easier to use, bigger aoe (always 5 tiles), dot and arts damage.
I would argue that Firewhistle is a little bit better than Ashlock. Because Arts damage is much stronger in the early game, and even in the late game Firewhistle can deal a lot of damage with their S1.
I'd say they are so close on the damage side it barely matter, but I still agree that firewisle would have a little higher priority because she's easier to use, as she still work at melee range so she's more permissive.
for me firewhistle > ashlock especially on IS since she can still block during skill and her talent that switch between atk+ and def+ help her as sub dps (not blocking any1) or sub tank (when blocking).
I don't recommend to up Manticore : Ethan is better because with his module and S2, he has 84% chance to bind for 3 to 4 sec and it matches with his attack interval of 3 to 4 sec so he is the best crowd-control and so better than Manticore at this role AND his is lower rarity so he is cheaper, like Myrtle is the better flagbarer. *I said that Myrtle was better in terms of DP generation and but for long stages we have Elysium and Wanqing
I'd argue building Bassline over Nearl (if you got both of them) because his talent, especially with module, mitigates a LOT of arts dmg coming your way. While yes he's got less healing power than Nearl, upping allies RES is invaluable, it'd why Nightingale is still relevant to this day
Here's my top 10, in no particular order, for those who have most 6 stars already: 1. Texas 2. Nearl 3. Delphine 4. La Pluma 5. Lappland 6. Honeyberry 7. Warfarin 8. Ptilopsis 9. Blue Poison 10. Shamare
I had to pull out Silence as a back-up healer for Co-op... because people would keep taking Skalter, so I couldn't patch operators. I used to use Silence a lot more, except Skalter happened and... stuff died fast enough and units weren't getting hurt enough anymore, so I didn't need quite as much dedicated healing =-=;; Definitely loved using Silence S2, and paired her with Ptilo for some ridiculous healing shenanigans
The fact you can manually choose when to activate and deactivate Rockrock’s skill 2 is a HUGE benefit. It’s not like Amiya’s skill 2 where the stun is gonna happen at defined intervals. You can save up the charge and wait for a big wave. And honestly, the stun is not that long, and can be more easily overcome nowadays with certain medics, or support units that can clear stun effect quickly. And honestly, she hits REALLY hard in her overcharged state. I actually like her a lot and think she’s an absolutely solid caster in general.
She was on the original main video and no units were repeated. My grievances with this particular video is "Elysium S2 is not recommended to mastery as S1 is his main skill" which is straight up incorrect and is misinformation. Also recommending Ashlock with Firewhistle as the secondary option is madman business, given Firewhistle tends to do higher damage with better uptime and retains the hability to block AND still does AOE with skills when blocking. Also "Tequila's main draw is doing good damage" and 2 seconds later "Mastery on S2 only increases damage so I wont recommend It"
@@kaynanbirro7277tbf, his s2 wasn’t his main skill for a long ass time. It only became consistently worth over s1 when bagpipe+myrtle+agent became the new opening meta, because double flag was no longer the most powerful opener and he instead is used his powerful sniper support/invis debuff niche. That’s what I have experienced tho
Its more of the fact that there are so many of them it seems like large amount is bad. Also 6* powercreeped reached such levels old 6* look like 5* in comparision to new ones while 5* looks like 4*.
@@januszpolak254issue is unlike 6*, 5* are not getting any better. Every new one we get is either a sidegrade or objectively worse than their older counterparts.
"most are mediocre" "I still use Texas" Then what's the issue, you proven already you had no issue using a mediocre one. (I will preshot the stupid argument, no, her talent doesn't make her good)
@@kevinseraphin5456 Not gonna lie, I do bring her for the extra dp at the start, and for the base skill. My problem lies in ops like windflit or swire being too bad for the cost to build them. 5 stars are expensive.
Issue with Elysium needing to be deployed ahead your melee can be simply counteracted by making him face back toward said operator. He's 1 block and becomes 0 block when using his skills anyway.
I am more of a "Throw enough 6*s at something until it's solved" kind of Dokutah, but ever since IS became a stable, all operators get E1, lvl 7 Skill and max level. So don't sleep on the power of a properly build Operator.
this is gonna come bite you in SSS. that mode only throws ops at you that are built, so now you're just gonna get a bunch ops that aren't strong enough to handle the SSS difficulty, while the fully built ops have a harder time appearing just because there's so many underbuilt ones the game will offer you instead.
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@@andrewsonuy7671 ofc not, that shit gives me bunch of not build ops every week ;-;
Cantabile should prolly be in here and prolly one of the must build 5* Operators. The fact that her DP generation is condensed into ammos makes her one of the most cost-efficient Vanguard in the game. As long as she has something to hit, you are guaranteed all those DP and it's extremely easy to achieve
Projekt Red was my backbone mistake remover before I got the Tax Evader and her demented stun-locking S3 Now I just need to wait for the Yapper to appear on someone's limited banner (I have no idea why I skipped her)
Unless we get another collab with Monster Hunter, Yapper is gone forever. There is a small chance though. Same thing happened to Ash and it only took something like 4 years for a second collab.
From me one of the most worth 5 stars to build is Lava Alter or Lava The Purgatory Her 2nd skill very useful against hordes of enemies and you could use it almost instantly because her Talent 1 give 35 extra SP Also she's free so you could easily max pot her by clearing Who Is Real sidestory
very much agree on your take on kazemaru, rockrock and shamare while the list of 5-star recommended ops from me are: kazemaru, indra, rockrock, quercus, broca, waai fu, harmonie, delphine, pramanix and (heidi or dagda or iris)
While I realy like almost all of the ones you named with the exeption of Waai Fu and broka (I don't dislike them, just don't care about them), I'd argue against Heidi and Delphine, yes they're good when used properly, but probably too tricky to use compared to the alternatives, I mean, for the public of a "who to build" video, especialy since Heidi is ch11 and Delphine ch13.
I honestly would add La Pluma to that,although her setback is her trait,she has her talent in which her attack speed increases. Liskarm and Warfarin for sp battery. Vendela, Puzzle, Cantabile, Specter,
I was confused beacuse you seems already make the 10 Good 5 stars. But it's actually new list & honestly, pretty solid. Even though there I kinda confused with Beeswax & Rockrock. I mean, I think there are other operators that did this job perfectly. But honestly I don't really care since I knew they did good damage Also, I don't know why, but about Liberator. I don't really see it as a downside, like so far when I'm using either Mlynar or him, waiting 40 seconds is fine. Beside you'd only need their Schwing to kill a crowd of tanky enemies. I use SilverAsh & Mostima not for their normal attack, but because of their Schwing, that I only activate 1-2 times in entire stage
As a player of the CN server, I have to say I and most of the other players in CN can only agree with Red, Elysium and Shamare (Tequila gains half of my support purly based on its infrastructure skill). All the advantages of the other 5 stars are too low to be deserving of build. Of course, all operators in Arknights have a way to shine, but once we only consider the best options, most of them just aren't good enough, and if its 5 stars the situation gets even worse. Most 5 stars are just weaker in all aspects compared to their corrosponding 6 stars (e.g. Nearl to Shu, Rockrock to Logos ect), and more expensive to build compared to 4 stars, who can do their job in most cases. In other words, most 5 stars cannot replace 6 stars but can be replaced with a cheaper 4 and somtimes even 3 star, making most of them unworthy(no disrespect to the characters) of building.
Stop. Most 5* are trash, when you have many 6* you'll use only Texas, Cantabile, Lappland, Firewatch, Ptilopsis/Silence, Warfarin(s2), and Liskarm(sp battery). Even though most of them are niche they are still useful even when you have many 6*, but others are mostly meh~ in that regard
Bassline is unironically an amazing medic defender. He actually enables some strategies that no other medic defender can. There are a couple amazing clears where he allows you to protect units from Tallulah’s fire attacks due to his shields.
No mention of Scene, Poncirus, Honeyberry/Mulberry... though Scene and Honeyberry/Mulberry have replacements in 6* nowadays, so I can mildly excuse those (except they are limited, so...). Less meta units that are still OK are Greyy the Lightningbearer, Asbestos, Broca. There are probably a few more that haven't been mentioned. Oh. Right. Silence too
Personally Firewhistle over Ashlock. Fireshistle's skill leaves the tiles they hit when the skill is active with continuous damage, it even can be used when they are blocking enemies lighting up 5 squares with the arts damage.
I had my doubts on Ashlock, Rockrock, Tequila but now that I watched this, I feel a bit more motivated to build them (except Tequila cuz I already have Mlynar)
Of all the operators mentioned, I am thinking of trying to build and use Rockrock more often. I already have Red, Elysium, Shamare and Tequila on E2, and Nearl on E1. Moreover, I like Rockrock's skin.
My issue with Manticore is that, despite having being "less likely to be targeted by enemies", she gets attacked all the time even if I place another operator down. She's a marshmallow and then putting her back on the field takes forever.
Funny that your first 2 picks are Ashlock and Nearl because they're my first ticket purchase 5*s that I actually use all the time. I might have a bit of a Kazimierz bias.
I just want to add a but of what i just kind of realized recently. Since such content will most likely be viewed by newer players, do be mindful to warn them about newer operators requiring newer materials which are locked behind high-mid level content (ch 10 and above). I guess this is also what made me realize how good kernel banner is for newer players to start off (albeit the value will still diminish as they progress, but ensuring smooth start with kernel operators may be a good recommendation)
I am a returning account after 4 years of absense, almost a newbie, but with a decent pool of operators (although all underbuilt yet). I am playing through the general content and some older Annihilations and early stages of Integrated Strategies every day. Here is my opinion. 5-star priorities for a newbie/new account should be La Pluma, Specter, Lappland, Nearl, Rockrock. Elysium is not that much better than Myrtle, and Myrtle is easier to obtain at full potential and cheaper to build (and to deploy). Same about Red and Gravel - Gravel is more useful in the early-mid game general content with her ability to tank some damage, easier to max pot, cheaper to build to E1 max and to deploy and redeploy (which is the most important thing about the archetype). Manticore shouldn't be built at all currently bc Ethan has more cc and deals Arts damage instead of physical, which is considered more valuable bc few mobs have decent Arts resistance; Ethan also is easier to max pot, cheaper to build and to deploy; and don't forget Ascalon is coming (although not everyone is going to pull for her ofc). Beeswax or Mint, same as Ashlock, shouldn't be a priority for someone who is just adapting to the game yet (and probably follows the guides often or at least checks them to define the layout) bc you will never encounter their archetype in the guides. However, it's good to build them, Dollkeepers, Summonners, buffers and debuffers etc. once you get a sturdy general roster and when you have enough freedom to explore various game possibilities. Still wouldn't build Red or Manticore even then. I'd definitely add Scene to your list, even though she is hard to obtain (I am going to get her from the CC shop ASAP). Scene might be not so much for general content, but I cannot imagine my IS runs without her since I discovered her by borrowing from a friend. I tried gaining more Hope in the very beginning to borrow Ling instead, but Scene is so simple, she fits any map seamlessly, she is Melantha, Orchid and Gravel 3-in-1 and more. Overall, your video was very interesting to watch and it gave me a lot of ideas for the future development of my account, thanks! P.S.: I decided to add what 5-stars I got to E2 so far as a newish account: Texas and Zima bc they are my best 2-block Vanguards, I don't have any 6-star Vanguards at all - and I thought Texas E2 would be smth important, but I haven't noticed any changes; while Zima's E2 passive made my life easier immediately; Specter bc I needed a 3-block Centurion and she is my best unit in the archetype; Lappland even though I also have E2 Silverash - bc her passive extension is that much of value, silence is needed against exploding spiders, sea monsters, flying warriors in IS-4 and maybe elsewhere; Nearl - right before I pulled Saria from the kernel banner, okaaay; Blue Poison - but that was prob a mistake bc Platinum would be much better to E2, she survives much better and has a unique feature extending her range. And here are 5-stars I am going to E2 next: Mulberry bc Wandering Medics are supermeta and she is my only one; Cantabile bc Agents are also meta and again she's my only Agent; Warfarin bc she is strong and fun; Executor bc Idc about supermeta Pinecone, he hits like a truck, and his E2 passive advancement is insane. And ofc Scene and La Pluma when I get them.
Personally i recommend Cantabile. She is so incredibly versatile, that even after Ines came out i still use Cantabile a lot. Agent Vanguard in general are pretty good
Was recommended in the first video, I believe. She's definitely a good unit. I just don't use her though =/ I'm an old player who's too set in my ways, so... =-=;; can't be bothered to figure out how to most effectively use Cantabile
@@dagyoo me too man, i like IS mode since it first release and get addicted to that gamemode, unfortunately i still have many good 5* operator that still e0 lvl 1 and 6* that not max lvl....
@@dagyoo I was just playing IS Expeditioner's Joklumarkar and have a lot of 5-stars built, and let me tell you: having a lot of 5-stars built synergizes AMAZINGLY with the First-Class Squad (which has a high chance at every recruitment, automatically having a random 5-star promoted)
I also considered getting Nearl (Medic Defender) to E2 but considering that we get Shu in 2 months i think i hold off on it, but i might consider a few other 5 star options (even upcoming ones) Especially since i still have a Senior Operator Training Apparatus (brings a 5 star Operator at E2 immediately to max. Level) from buying the pack we had from 27. February to 29. March with Ch´ens outfit 🤔
honestly as a doctor who fanatic with fortress defender i can 100% said that firewhistle is better than ashlock defender function for hold enemies ofc, firewhistle block didnt go to 0(zero) can place on front line or back line when skill 2 active, deals bit arts damage and can deals aoe(adjacent tile) damage, ranged or melee i hate to admit firewhistle is better than ashlock bcuz as an artist myself, i admire norizc, artist who made most of rhine lab character, ashlock, muelsyse, etc and i play arknights to collect character that he made
did you just say metch accord. i am OFFENDED. also, dont u think itd be cool if drones of drone casters continue attacking even if the operator has a status ailment? like stunned or frozen or bound blabla. cus like they're separate from the operator?
@xtranathor8143 well, our precious girl GG (definitely means get gorgeous too btw) is definitely a special case since she stops attacking in the first place.. i meant like off skill cus wouldnt that be cool
Firewhistle > Ashlock - I have both and can rely on Firewhistle holding her lane and melting things with her S2, ashlock needs another opperator to function I've also heard that Rock Rock isn't as great as you are letting on, the stun duration and the time it takes to get the % increase to damage is too long
I really like cantabile but she has a problem. you want her to keep hitting thing to generate dp, but add she levels up, she starts killing things too fast, she generates less dp. kind of a conflicted operator
personally, i think Waai is a better alternative than Kafka. Well, I mostly use Red for her S1 and on that matter, Waai IS better than Kafka. But if its about Red's S2, Kafka S1 is even better than Red imo
it also feel strange that he mention kafka when 99.9% of the peoples who use her for her S1 don't even build her. Tho I disagree with you, build your kafka, embrace Kafka S2
Good day to you all, I'm very new to arknights and currently can get a free 5 star, but I'm not sure who I should get, I am think of getting shamare, specter, warfarin, and ptilopsis but I am unable to decide. So who should I pick in terms of long run and immediate effect?
Absolutely depends in What You already have... Spectre with Gladiia is Goldlevel, Warfarin and Ptilopsis are universally good. Shamare is niche, but in this niche she is a cheatsheet.
Unless if they have a niche that can come in handy (i.e: Bassline), just don't. The return on investment for 5* in general is ass all things considered.
ashlock: horn are better and she can still blocking during skill. nearl: same as above but if saria using S2 or S3, nearl S1 can be a backup. beeswax: carnelian and lin have the dps but cannot be the perfect meat shield like her XD. kazemaru: specter alter are better but she is limited so... manticore: i only use her for the slow, mizuki have the dps but his slow are not 100% uptime like maticore S1. projekt red: phantom can do better, and then texas alter and yato alter can do even better although they are limited. rockrock: GG are more versatile. elysium: all 3 flag bearer are worth it since other than S1, their S2 give different usage. shamare: similar to above, all 3 hexer have their own niche, shamare for the def down, pramanix for the res down, while gnosis for the crowd control. tequila: mylnar exist.
@@prd6617 I honestly think Carnelian is *worse* than beeswax; that Obelisk is just so insanely useful and Carne's skills require the overcharge to really be useful, so unless youre intentionally baiting with your phalax caster or a boss has tons of AoE damage you dont need to worry about the ability for Carnelian to retain her defense steroid perpetually
AoE casters generally aren't favored. Reason being... higher cost, and were all mostly already power-crept by other units, namely Eyja S2. Too many strong wave clears at E2 that render AoE/splash casters mostly redundant
Recommending Beeswax and Manti is insane honestly, there is literally no place for them in terms of clearings stages. I mean id get it if you like them as characters but as units to use to clear stages??? Nah
@obsiangravel dp gen i think not. elysium DOES generate more dp than myrtle but his sp cost kinda loses out on it and makes him equal with myrtle. its why saileach s1 is equal in value as myrtle, elysium and wanqing. if were talking about that utility, then saileach is better than elysium. being cheaper to deploy is a massive boon as a vanguard. then again, imo units on the kernel banner is rarer than six stars on the standard banner cus nobody really pulls in that pool.
@@galeria_m His dp cost does not makes him equal to Myrtle, after the first activation he quickly surpasses her in dp production, saileach s1 is not equal in value to Elysium, not only is she more expensive to deploy but also way more expensive to build.
Rockrock has one of the worst module in the game. Not only it gives less atk than Kjera's or Minimalist's modules but also talent improvement is so pitiful it makes me want to cry 😢
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Projekt Red fell so hard, even when disregarding Mexico and Yato R she was already outshined by phantom in terms of damage and gravel/kafka in terms of utility (not to mention you don't even need Kafka built for utility reasons).
EDIT: should I also mention Agent Vanguards?
Agreed, but I still highly recommend her if you don't have other fast redeploy operators
Nah, she still worth it
As sacrifice against Deathless Snake Talulah
Projekt red has one thing that the 6s don't
True damage without skill.
We'll have Red alter later if HG make her grandma event (Copium)
@@ghiffaribara2949 we did get grandma event? Shu is grandma🤣
Shemare and Tequilla are also good to build for your base. At Promotion 2, they become a highly efficient team for level three gold contracts. +90% acquisition speed and 500 LMD on 4 bar contracts.
And with Mylnar on command center, Tequila Shamare Bibeak combo will often produce 4 gold trade because you probably will leave them on TP for >24 hours 😂 which means you'll get spammed with 2500 LMD
Why even go for chance when you can use Proviso to guarantee +1 on all orders
@@charginginprogresssProviso’s skill explicitly doesn’t work with Tequila’s skill.
I have all these build except Rockrock. I do agree this list is great.
I love my Ashlock, but I think FireWhistle is the more useful pick now. Easier to use, bigger aoe (always 5 tiles), dot and arts damage.
I would argue that Firewhistle is a little bit better than Ashlock. Because Arts damage is much stronger in the early game, and even in the late game Firewhistle can deal a lot of damage with their S1.
I'd say they are so close on the damage side it barely matter, but I still agree that firewisle would have a little higher priority because she's easier to use, as she still work at melee range so she's more permissive.
firewhistle is good but the downside compared to ashlock is the skill cycle on ashlock is way way shorter
for me firewhistle > ashlock especially on IS since she can still block during skill and her talent that switch between atk+ and def+ help her as sub dps (not blocking any1) or sub tank (when blocking).
@@garmzai Thats why you use Firewistle S1
+1 for Firewhistle instead of Ashlock. Her Arts *_DoT_* is actually great, compared to being pure physical like Ashlock.
I don't recommend to up Manticore : Ethan is better because with his module and S2, he has 84% chance to bind for 3 to 4 sec and it matches with his attack interval of 3 to 4 sec so he is the best crowd-control and so better than Manticore at this role AND his is lower rarity so he is cheaper, like Myrtle is the better flagbarer.
*I said that Myrtle was better in terms of DP generation and but for long stages we have Elysium and Wanqing
I don't know for you but for me manticore is just to slow enemy but when ascslon come she gonna fell so hard
@@sokchanpkay916 This, manticore is just for slow, and she is pretty good at this, but its her only niche
also ascalon is coming
I agree with you but the video is about 5* operator so he is not wrong and as he said it's not a tier list just a recommendation
Manticore’s cc is passive while Ethan’s is mostly on skill
I'd argue building Bassline over Nearl (if you got both of them) because his talent, especially with module, mitigates a LOT of arts dmg coming your way. While yes he's got less healing power than Nearl, upping allies RES is invaluable, it'd why Nightingale is still relevant to this day
The one thing I don't like about Bassline is his 60 so cost s2 when maxed out
@@princenwegbu3045 I mean tbf it's a 60 SP cost for 60 second duration. Regular Nearl also follow the 1 for 1 on her S2, 40 SP for 40 second duration
I agree. Once I used Bassline's S2, I was like, "whoaaaa" haha. He's a great unit.
Here's my top 10, in no particular order, for those who have most 6 stars already:
1. Texas
2. Nearl
3. Delphine
4. La Pluma
5. Lappland
6. Honeyberry
7. Warfarin
8. Ptilopsis
9. Blue Poison
10. Shamare
My favorite 5 star is still silence her healing drone is just really really useful
Really useful for placing units outside of the main heal zone, she can heal in two places at once :)
Until today, this skill of her is definitely slept on
I had to pull out Silence as a back-up healer for Co-op... because people would keep taking Skalter, so I couldn't patch operators. I used to use Silence a lot more, except Skalter happened and... stuff died fast enough and units weren't getting hurt enough anymore, so I didn't need quite as much dedicated healing =-=;; Definitely loved using Silence S2, and paired her with Ptilo for some ridiculous healing shenanigans
The fact you can manually choose when to activate and deactivate Rockrock’s skill 2 is a HUGE benefit. It’s not like Amiya’s skill 2 where the stun is gonna happen at defined intervals. You can save up the charge and wait for a big wave. And honestly, the stun is not that long, and can be more easily overcome nowadays with certain medics, or support units that can clear stun effect quickly. And honestly, she hits REALLY hard in her overcharged state. I actually like her a lot and think she’s an absolutely solid caster in general.
14:04 "Support Why"
lmao.
Clearly Roman illiterate
Good but ... WHERE IS LAPPLAND
Actually tho, if im not mistaken her module has a small amount of fragile which seems legit to me
She was on the original main video and no units were repeated. My grievances with this particular video is "Elysium S2 is not recommended to mastery as S1 is his main skill" which is straight up incorrect and is misinformation. Also recommending Ashlock with Firewhistle as the secondary option is madman business, given Firewhistle tends to do higher damage with better uptime and retains the hability to block AND still does AOE with skills when blocking. Also "Tequila's main draw is doing good damage" and 2 seconds later "Mastery on S2 only increases damage so I wont recommend It"
@@kaynanbirro7277tbf, his s2 wasn’t his main skill for a long ass time. It only became consistently worth over s1 when bagpipe+myrtle+agent became the new opening meta, because double flag was no longer the most powerful opener and he instead is used his powerful sniper support/invis debuff niche. That’s what I have experienced tho
His sniper buff was always his best skill
5 stars are weird, only a few are good and most are mediocre. I still use texas and canta though, some of the most useful vanguards.
Its more of the fact that there are so many of them it seems like large amount is bad. Also 6* powercreeped reached such levels old 6* look like 5* in comparision to new ones while 5* looks like 4*.
@@januszpolak254issue is unlike 6*, 5* are not getting any better. Every new one we get is either a sidegrade or objectively worse than their older counterparts.
"most are mediocre"
"I still use Texas"
Then what's the issue, you proven already you had no issue using a mediocre one. (I will preshot the stupid argument, no, her talent doesn't make her good)
@@kevinseraphin5456 Not gonna lie, I do bring her for the extra dp at the start, and for the base skill. My problem lies in ops like windflit or swire being too bad for the cost to build them. 5 stars are expensive.
5 star is really just an expensive version of 4* to begin with
YEAHHH KAZEMARU MENTIONED
Straight forward and informative if i know any newbie your channel will be the first one i recommend to them 🎉🎉
Issue with Elysium needing to be deployed ahead your melee can be simply counteracted by making him face back toward said operator. He's 1 block and becomes 0 block when using his skills anyway.
Ty, amazing guide
I started building Elysium, but couldn’t decide with skill to M3
I went with s2m3 because myrtle s1m3 does the job very well. Might as well use elysium to buff up my snipers + debuff units
S2 always, his def shred niche is just very strong, qnd it's a decent trade off for a slower dp generation start
I am more of a "Throw enough 6*s at something until it's solved" kind of Dokutah, but ever since IS became a stable, all operators get E1, lvl 7 Skill and max level.
So don't sleep on the power of a properly build Operator.
this is gonna come bite you in SSS. that mode only throws ops at you that are built, so now you're just gonna get a bunch ops that aren't strong enough to handle the SSS difficulty, while the fully built ops have a harder time appearing just because there's so many underbuilt ones the game will offer you instead.
@@andrewsonuy7671 ofc not, that shit gives me bunch of not build ops every week ;-;
Cantabile should prolly be in here and prolly one of the must build 5* Operators. The fact that her DP generation is condensed into ammos makes her one of the most cost-efficient Vanguard in the game. As long as she has something to hit, you are guaranteed all those DP and it's extremely easy to achieve
This video is a continuation of a video where she was mentioned already. Don't bother yourself
For me shamare, elysium and ashlock is must build.
If you wonder why i build ashlock because i usually use kazmierz combo.
Tequila is also great for his base skill which gives free LMD occasionally when used in a trading post for gold sales.
Projekt Red was my backbone mistake remover before I got the Tax Evader and her demented stun-locking S3
Now I just need to wait for the Yapper to appear on someone's limited banner (I have no idea why I skipped her)
Yato Alter won't, she's a monster hunter exclusive.
Unless we get another collab with Monster Hunter, Yapper is gone forever. There is a small chance though. Same thing happened to Ash and it only took something like 4 years for a second collab.
great video. you helped me decide I should finally e2 my beeswax and rockrock (bassline too). thank you!
From me one of the most worth 5 stars to build is Lava Alter or Lava The Purgatory
Her 2nd skill very useful against hordes of enemies and you could use it almost instantly because her Talent 1 give 35 extra SP
Also she's free so you could easily max pot her by clearing Who Is Real sidestory
very much agree on your take on kazemaru, rockrock and shamare
while the list of 5-star recommended ops from me are: kazemaru, indra, rockrock, quercus, broca, waai fu, harmonie, delphine, pramanix and (heidi or dagda or iris)
While I realy like almost all of the ones you named with the exeption of Waai Fu and broka (I don't dislike them, just don't care about them), I'd argue against Heidi and Delphine, yes they're good when used properly, but probably too tricky to use compared to the alternatives, I mean, for the public of a "who to build" video, especialy since Heidi is ch11 and Delphine ch13.
@@kevinseraphin5456 why do you think i recommended those ops? I mean someone like waai fu, broca, heidi and delphine? can you take a guess?
I honestly would add La Pluma to that,although her setback is her trait,she has her talent in which her attack speed increases. Liskarm and Warfarin for sp battery. Vendela, Puzzle, Cantabile, Specter,
@@ShiroTheFoxrouge123 absolutely agree on your take with la pluma, liskarm and warfarin there
@@drsnorlax_felineknightsWe also have "Kokodayo"alter for stun & damage and Cserzy for arts defender.
I was confused beacuse you seems already make the 10 Good 5 stars. But it's actually new list & honestly, pretty solid. Even though there I kinda confused with Beeswax & Rockrock. I mean, I think there are other operators that did this job perfectly. But honestly I don't really care since I knew they did good damage
Also, I don't know why, but about Liberator. I don't really see it as a downside, like so far when I'm using either Mlynar or him, waiting 40 seconds is fine. Beside you'd only need their Schwing to kill a crowd of tanky enemies. I use SilverAsh & Mostima not for their normal attack, but because of their Schwing, that I only activate 1-2 times in entire stage
Just a tip about Manticore's module. It buffs her S1 too because the module effect stacks multiplively with the s1 m3 for 60% slow instead of 50%.
As a player of the CN server, I have to say I and most of the other players in CN can only agree with Red, Elysium and Shamare (Tequila gains half of my support purly based on its infrastructure skill). All the advantages of the other 5 stars are too low to be deserving of build. Of course, all operators in Arknights have a way to shine, but once we only consider the best options, most of them just aren't good enough, and if its 5 stars the situation gets even worse. Most 5 stars are just weaker in all aspects compared to their corrosponding 6 stars (e.g. Nearl to Shu, Rockrock to Logos ect), and more expensive to build compared to 4 stars, who can do their job in most cases. In other words, most 5 stars cannot replace 6 stars but can be replaced with a cheaper 4 and somtimes even 3 star, making most of them unworthy(no disrespect to the characters) of building.
What I've learned is that I have most of these ops, but haven't built most of them. I need to get on that IS grind now...
Stop. Most 5* are trash, when you have many 6* you'll use only Texas, Cantabile, Lappland, Firewatch, Ptilopsis/Silence, Warfarin(s2), and Liskarm(sp battery). Even though most of them are niche they are still useful even when you have many 6*, but others are mostly meh~ in that regard
Bassline is unironically an amazing medic defender. He actually enables some strategies that no other medic defender can. There are a couple amazing clears where he allows you to protect units from Tallulah’s fire attacks due to his shields.
No mention of Scene, Poncirus, Honeyberry/Mulberry... though Scene and Honeyberry/Mulberry have replacements in 6* nowadays, so I can mildly excuse those (except they are limited, so...). Less meta units that are still OK are Greyy the Lightningbearer, Asbestos, Broca. There are probably a few more that haven't been mentioned. Oh. Right. Silence too
Personally Firewhistle over Ashlock. Fireshistle's skill leaves the tiles they hit when the skill is active with continuous damage, it even can be used when they are blocking enemies lighting up 5 squares with the arts damage.
I had my doubts on Ashlock, Rockrock, Tequila but now that I watched this, I feel a bit more motivated to build them (except Tequila cuz I already have Mlynar)
i can recommend kjera as a supporter handing in caster class
Of all the operators mentioned, I am thinking of trying to build and use Rockrock more often. I already have Red, Elysium, Shamare and Tequila on E2, and Nearl on E1. Moreover, I like Rockrock's skin.
My issue with Manticore is that, despite having being "less likely to be targeted by enemies", she gets attacked all the time even if I place another operator down. She's a marshmallow and then putting her back on the field takes forever.
Funny that your first 2 picks are Ashlock and Nearl because they're my first ticket purchase 5*s that I actually use all the time. I might have a bit of a Kazimierz bias.
I just want to add a but of what i just kind of realized recently. Since such content will most likely be viewed by newer players, do be mindful to warn them about newer operators requiring newer materials which are locked behind high-mid level content (ch 10 and above). I guess this is also what made me realize how good kernel banner is for newer players to start off (albeit the value will still diminish as they progress, but ensuring smooth start with kernel operators may be a good recommendation)
I am a returning account after 4 years of absense, almost a newbie, but with a decent pool of operators (although all underbuilt yet). I am playing through the general content and some older Annihilations and early stages of Integrated Strategies every day. Here is my opinion.
5-star priorities for a newbie/new account should be La Pluma, Specter, Lappland, Nearl, Rockrock. Elysium is not that much better than Myrtle, and Myrtle is easier to obtain at full potential and cheaper to build (and to deploy). Same about Red and Gravel - Gravel is more useful in the early-mid game general content with her ability to tank some damage, easier to max pot, cheaper to build to E1 max and to deploy and redeploy (which is the most important thing about the archetype). Manticore shouldn't be built at all currently bc Ethan has more cc and deals Arts damage instead of physical, which is considered more valuable bc few mobs have decent Arts resistance; Ethan also is easier to max pot, cheaper to build and to deploy; and don't forget Ascalon is coming (although not everyone is going to pull for her ofc). Beeswax or Mint, same as Ashlock, shouldn't be a priority for someone who is just adapting to the game yet (and probably follows the guides often or at least checks them to define the layout) bc you will never encounter their archetype in the guides. However, it's good to build them, Dollkeepers, Summonners, buffers and debuffers etc. once you get a sturdy general roster and when you have enough freedom to explore various game possibilities. Still wouldn't build Red or Manticore even then.
I'd definitely add Scene to your list, even though she is hard to obtain (I am going to get her from the CC shop ASAP). Scene might be not so much for general content, but I cannot imagine my IS runs without her since I discovered her by borrowing from a friend. I tried gaining more Hope in the very beginning to borrow Ling instead, but Scene is so simple, she fits any map seamlessly, she is Melantha, Orchid and Gravel 3-in-1 and more.
Overall, your video was very interesting to watch and it gave me a lot of ideas for the future development of my account, thanks!
P.S.: I decided to add what 5-stars I got to E2 so far as a newish account: Texas and Zima bc they are my best 2-block Vanguards, I don't have any 6-star Vanguards at all - and I thought Texas E2 would be smth important, but I haven't noticed any changes; while Zima's E2 passive made my life easier immediately; Specter bc I needed a 3-block Centurion and she is my best unit in the archetype; Lappland even though I also have E2 Silverash - bc her passive extension is that much of value, silence is needed against exploding spiders, sea monsters, flying warriors in IS-4 and maybe elsewhere; Nearl - right before I pulled Saria from the kernel banner, okaaay; Blue Poison - but that was prob a mistake bc Platinum would be much better to E2, she survives much better and has a unique feature extending her range.
And here are 5-stars I am going to E2 next: Mulberry bc Wandering Medics are supermeta and she is my only one; Cantabile bc Agents are also meta and again she's my only Agent; Warfarin bc she is strong and fun; Executor bc Idc about supermeta Pinecone, he hits like a truck, and his E2 passive advancement is insane. And ofc Scene and La Pluma when I get them.
ooh I love 5 stars, glad I found this channel
Personally i recommend Cantabile.
She is so incredibly versatile, that even after Ines came out i still use Cantabile a lot.
Agent Vanguard in general are pretty good
Was recommended in the first video, I believe. She's definitely a good unit. I just don't use her though =/ I'm an old player who's too set in my ways, so... =-=;; can't be bothered to figure out how to most effectively use Cantabile
141 5* operator huh....and yet i still have a dream that one day i have all my operator max lvl....anyway welcome back man FR.
Same, IS has motivated me to build and try more operators
@@dagyoo me too man, i like IS mode since it first release and get addicted to that gamemode, unfortunately i still have many good 5* operator that still e0 lvl 1 and 6* that not max lvl....
There are too many 5 stars to keep up with, plus they cost a lot to build
@@dagyoo I was just playing IS Expeditioner's Joklumarkar and have a lot of 5-stars built, and let me tell you:
having a lot of 5-stars built synergizes AMAZINGLY with the First-Class Squad (which has a high chance at every recruitment, automatically having a random 5-star promoted)
Elysiums s2 is why you use him, he straight up juat reduces 40% def, in return for generatinf less sp.
Do. Not m3 his s1 over s2.
Texas is great. With module, she costs only 7, lower than even Myrtle.
Not to mention her talent give 2 DP at the start, making her my go to vanguard
I also considered getting Nearl (Medic Defender) to E2 but considering that we get Shu in 2 months i think i hold off on it, but i might consider a few other 5 star options (even upcoming ones)
Especially since i still have a Senior Operator Training Apparatus (brings a 5 star Operator at E2 immediately to max. Level) from buying the pack we had from 27. February to 29. March with Ch´ens outfit 🤔
saving to build Лето when she come to en her skill 2 is really good for a 5 star
Leto? Her niche of activating all USGSG skills with her S2 is kinda useless all things considered.
@harunammie4898 True, but her module doubled her dps.
Margaret carried me since the beginning, and she is still a part of 'i don't want to think and adapt' team.
honestly as a doctor who fanatic with fortress defender
i can 100% said that firewhistle is better than ashlock
defender function for hold enemies ofc,
firewhistle block didnt go to 0(zero)
can place on front line or back line
when skill 2 active, deals bit arts damage and can deals aoe(adjacent tile) damage, ranged or melee
i hate to admit firewhistle is better than ashlock
bcuz as an artist myself, i admire norizc, artist who made most of rhine lab character, ashlock, muelsyse, etc and i play arknights to collect character that he made
did you just say metch accord. i am OFFENDED.
also, dont u think itd be cool if drones of drone casters continue attacking even if the operator has a status ailment? like stunned or frozen or bound blabla. cus like they're separate from the operator?
I think they do? IIRC my GG S3 continued attacking The Last Knight whilst GG herself was frozen.
@xtranathor8143 well, our precious girl GG (definitely means get gorgeous too btw) is definitely a special case since she stops attacking in the first place.. i meant like off skill cus wouldnt that be cool
@@galeria_m oh, good catch! That's definitely what it stands for!
Firewhistle > Ashlock - I have both and can rely on Firewhistle holding her lane and melting things with her S2, ashlock needs another opperator to function
I've also heard that Rock Rock isn't as great as you are letting on, the stun duration and the time it takes to get the % increase to damage is too long
I’ve had Nearl for ages but never paid her much attention. Might be time to change that.
I really like cantabile but she has a problem. you want her to keep hitting thing to generate dp, but add she levels up, she starts killing things too fast, she generates less dp. kind of a conflicted operator
personally, i think Waai is a better alternative than Kafka. Well, I mostly use Red for her S1 and on that matter, Waai IS better than Kafka. But if its about Red's S2, Kafka S1 is even better than Red imo
it also feel strange that he mention kafka when 99.9% of the peoples who use her for her S1 don't even build her.
Tho I disagree with you, build your kafka, embrace Kafka S2
I just built kafka for base slave lmao
@kevinseraphin5456 i didnt say i didnt raise kafka. all my executors including gravel are maxxed other than masteries
idk I really enjoy Kafka's snip snip. It's wild.
I love your content. More contents like this
One day I'll be able to build all my waifus and husbandos TwT
More will come
Good day to you all, I'm very new to arknights and currently can get a free 5 star, but I'm not sure who I should get, I am think of getting shamare, specter, warfarin, and ptilopsis but I am unable to decide. So who should I pick in terms of long run and immediate effect?
Absolutely depends in What You already have... Spectre with Gladiia is Goldlevel, Warfarin and Ptilopsis are universally good. Shamare is niche, but in this niche she is a cheatsheet.
@kshat2291 I have Lappland (voucher), Project red (voucher), Ashlock, Harmonie, Warmy, Mudberry, and Cliffheart for my 5 stars
@kshat2291 I rolled on the Ray banner and got two new 6 stars, Degenbrecher and Saga in 1 ten multi, very good as im still very new.
Are these 5* worth building when you have their 6* of their class?
Unless if they have a niche that can come in handy (i.e: Bassline), just don't. The return on investment for 5* in general is ass all things considered.
Shamare and Elysium.
Some 5* in the list can be used as base slaves (Tequila, Kafka, Shamare)
ashlock: horn are better and she can still blocking during skill.
nearl: same as above but if saria using S2 or S3, nearl S1 can be a backup.
beeswax: carnelian and lin have the dps but cannot be the perfect meat shield like her XD.
kazemaru: specter alter are better but she is limited so...
manticore: i only use her for the slow, mizuki have the dps but his slow are not 100% uptime like maticore S1.
projekt red: phantom can do better, and then texas alter and yato alter can do even better although they are limited.
rockrock: GG are more versatile.
elysium: all 3 flag bearer are worth it since other than S1, their S2 give different usage.
shamare: similar to above, all 3 hexer have their own niche, shamare for the def down, pramanix for the res down, while gnosis for the crowd control.
tequila: mylnar exist.
@@prd6617 I honestly think Carnelian is *worse* than beeswax; that Obelisk is just so insanely useful and Carne's skills require the overcharge to really be useful, so unless youre intentionally baiting with your phalax caster or a boss has tons of AoE damage you dont need to worry about the ability for Carnelian to retain her defense steroid perpetually
Ashlock mentioned! I can now die peacefully
surprised Leonhardt wasnt mentioned :o
AoE casters generally aren't favored. Reason being... higher cost, and were all mostly already power-crept by other units, namely Eyja S2. Too many strong wave clears at E2 that render AoE/splash casters mostly redundant
5-star Defenders personally I'd pick Bassline and Heavyrain over Nearl.
Recommending Beeswax and Manti is insane honestly, there is literally no place for them in terms of clearings stages.
I mean id get it if you like them as characters but as units to use to clear stages??? Nah
I was thinking specter would be in this list but i guess the existence of reaper guards made her slighly fell off
she's already in the previous video
Why does the dollkeepers doll need to be durable? Its nearly impossible to kill them anyway
So many unit i no longer use since have best option for example angelina,,, since i use suzuran for slower now 😂
Akafuyu is the best
Why? Crab
project Red second skill stun only ground enemies.
141 5* and I've only e2'd 47 of them.
HYEAAAH TEQUILA MENTIONED
I have 4 operators on this list
On my way to up rockrock, shamare and tequila
i dunno, but to be honest, i prefer click rather than rockrock
nahh, kirara is LIGHTYEARS better than manticore.
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KAZEMARU GAMING REPRESENT!
for Elysium.. Well, myrtle is better imo and Wanqing, he upcoming free flagbearer is also good imo.
just my opinion ofc
Myrtle is easier to max pot but if they are both maxed outside of Vanguard healing Elysium is objective direct upgrade.
Only advantage Myrtle has over Ely is being cheaper. Elysium surpasses her on everything else.
@obsiangravel dp gen i think not.
elysium DOES generate more dp than myrtle but his sp cost kinda loses out on it and makes him equal with myrtle. its why saileach s1 is equal in value as myrtle, elysium and wanqing.
if were talking about that utility, then saileach is better than elysium.
being cheaper to deploy is a massive boon as a vanguard.
then again, imo units on the kernel banner is rarer than six stars on the standard banner cus nobody really pulls in that pool.
and myrtle is more accessible as a 4 star
@@galeria_m His dp cost does not makes him equal to Myrtle, after the first activation he quickly surpasses her in dp production, saileach s1 is not equal in value to Elysium, not only is she more expensive to deploy but also way more expensive to build.
Rockrock has one of the worst module in the game. Not only it gives less atk than Kjera's or Minimalist's modules but also talent improvement is so pitiful it makes me want to cry 😢
I refuse to build bassline he ruind me
Yes
for me 5 star operator must build is Ling
Gummy is way better than nearl and project red is not that great anymore.
Is this ai voice?