Was The 105 Series GTV Alfa Romeo's Best Car?

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  • @Number27
    @Number27  Рік тому +7

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  • @oliverdecker1930
    @oliverdecker1930 Рік тому +21

    Jack, I am 0:05 sec into the video and I had to stop it, just to type this comment: immediate goosebumps listening to that engine. You could wake me up 2:00 am in the morning and let me listen to the engine note and I would instantly know it’s an Alfa. What a symphony

    • @malcolmhardwick4258
      @malcolmhardwick4258 Рік тому +1

      A symphony of valves and cylinders !

    • @joerosen5464
      @joerosen5464 Рік тому

      Especially amazing since IME I've never heard another 4-pot that didn't sound like 💩! Boy, does this setup break the mould! Unfortunately, this car manages this feat because amongst other things, it's hardly representative of a REAL 1750GTV!🙄
      Really nothing more than a rolling advertisement for the superb work of this Alfaholics outfit🕺... you're pretty much SOL for building yourself something like this if you live much outside the UK.
      The sound IS fantastic, but besides adding 250cc over the (older gen) stock engine (& really 400cc since this thing started out life as a 1600cc Junior), not to mention adding more than 50% HP to obtain a rather incredible 180HP (Really? From a vintage normally aspirated 2.0 litre? And it's this driveable? Love to see the truth on a dyno🤧), I can't imagine that Alfaholics would leave much of the stock exhaust system intact, either.
      As Jack admits in passing, "the stock versions sound rather tamer".
      You think???🤣🤣🤣
      I look forward to seeing Jack test a 105GTV rather more closer to stock, but I guess this dog's breakfast resto-mod, even if it is probably ALOT better than the real thing ever was, was all Jack had been able to get his mitts on for his channel?🤨
      I thought I might be seeing a review of a 105GTV; instead, like all too many other channels with their deceptive thumbnail pictures & even more exaggerated claims in the titles of their videos, we're fed something so different that despite Jack's apologies about how this car "retains that essential Alfa DNA" we've actually been played... again.😑
      If the title of the video was "Alfaholics Alfa 105 Junior that outperforms a 1750GTV thanks to having a much larger, newer, & highly modified 2.0 litre engine stuffed into it (& various other tweaks that we won't talk about the cost of)", then I think that viewers such as myself would have been much better served.
      Et tu, folks?

    • @georgebettiol8338
      @georgebettiol8338 Рік тому

      @@joerosen5464 The car featured is a late 105 series Alfa 1600 Junior that was built alongside the Alfa 2000 GTV (1972 to 1976). The Alfa (105 series) 1750 ceased production in 1971. The 1600 and 2000 share the same body including external and internal fixtures (grille, interior, etc) with only the rear light clusters fitted to the Junior being from the earlier 1600 series car - the 2000 had larger rear light clusters. The engine fitted to the featured Alfa 1600 Junor is the 2.0 litre twin spark engine that was initally fitted to Alfa 75 and later Alfa 164 in injected forms. The 2.0 litre injected twin spark produces a healthy 150 bhp (DIN) in standard form - so is a siginficant improvement over the Alfa 105's original 2000cc engine with around 130 bhp (DIN). It seems that the Alfaholics' mods increases the twin spark's power by circa 25-30bhp - which is achievable for that twin spark engine.

  • @eljayr4669
    @eljayr4669 Рік тому +49

    The car is an icon. I would imagine the Alfaholics upgrade doubled the value of the car. Worth every penny, a thoroughly enjoyable video.

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s Рік тому

      it as no value because it never existed,it´s a mix of three models with parts only fabricated after the 2000 year, around 2010

    • @Haffschlappe
      @Haffschlappe 5 місяців тому +1

      They still fetch 80.000 up

  • @danijuggernaut
    @danijuggernaut Рік тому +7

    This is a pure Sport Car. I'm Spanish and a raised up in Switzerland (Zürich) with a lot Italian friends. We all freak up with Alfa Romeo in the 80's. I had a Gulia Nuova Super 1600 yellow race look and i had also an Alfasud TI. Lovely two Weber double barrel carbs. Unique sound and awesome engine used for décades since the 70's. BEAUTIFUL!!!

  • @fartracer
    @fartracer Рік тому +7

    Back in 1980, at the age of 20, I'd just written-off my first car. Up until this time I'd driven a variety of very average vehicles, and I had my heart set on something I now recognise as just another very average car... when a colleague convinced me I should buy Italian instead.
    One of the first Italian cars I looked at was a 105 series GTV 1750 with a 2000 motor fitted.
    It was just sensational!
    Within seconds of leaving the dealer's yard on a test drive, my face split in two with a grin... and I as said at the time, "little hands came out of the firewall and pulled my right foot down".
    It's probably just as well it was a little out of my price range because I strongly suspect that if I'd bought it I would have killed myself in it. It was impossible (for me) to drive it without "fanging the crap out of it".
    I ended up buying a 124 Sport instead, but 43 years later that short drive in a 105 series GTV remains one of my most memorable driving experiences.

  • @johnireland1629
    @johnireland1629 Рік тому +14

    I've been driving Alfas since 1977 and had a few race cars from 101 and 105 series. I agree the 105s have something special...but I have to say that they all do. And I loved the Alfetta gearbox. And the Busso V6 in my GTV6, my two 75s, my 164 (which is a real BMW beater), etc. My current 2023 Giulia is the best car I've ever owned...better than the six 911s or the Audis or VWs or Mercedes or 308 GTSi or the Maserati. The Alfa engineers and the cars they built has continually survived the bad management of the company. Great video...thanks.

  • @MarkJVSomers
    @MarkJVSomers Рік тому +11

    The Alfetta through to the 75 were also great cars, with perfect weight distribution from the transaxle set-up.

  • @timgosling6189
    @timgosling6189 Рік тому +35

    I've always loved the look of the 105 GTVs, especially in red or other light colours that show off the lines. One of Bertone's best!

  • @esslar1
    @esslar1 Рік тому +9

    I remember when these were new, and I thought then and still do think they are one of the best-looking European cars ever. They were real stunners when they first showed up.

    • @peterlorimer4865
      @peterlorimer4865 9 місяців тому +2

      Thank Giorgetto Guigiaro for that. It was my bedroom wall car until I could afford to buy one.

  • @markthomson4826
    @markthomson4826 Рік тому +13

    I own both a 1969 1750 GT Veloce and a 50 years younger Giulia Veloce Q4. The bertone is truly an iconic Alfa with wonderfully balanced steering and a fantastic engine. I just love it. The Giulia is the (underrated) modern equivalent. Beautiful to look at and, as a saloon, unparalleled to drive (and I used to be a BMW enthusiast).

  • @alunhoskins4513
    @alunhoskins4513 Рік тому +2

    Fabulous, loved this. Happy memories of the 70's Italian cars. And yes, that front grill takes some beating.

  • @albertseabra9226
    @albertseabra9226 Рік тому +3

    Fabulous car.
    And she really sings!
    A revival of this Model is in order.
    Thank you for this fantastic video.

  • @gazzertrn
    @gazzertrn Рік тому +6

    They always say everyone should have an Alfa at some time , ultimate drivers car .
    And that one is a stunner . Great vid on the Alfa (even though sadly most suffer from rust )One of my many fave classics.

  • @mikecaplin2788
    @mikecaplin2788 Рік тому +2

    My Mum had a 1976 GT 1600 Junior. As a young lad it was so exotic & beautiful. I remember watching the speedo as she went over 100 mph- it was so exciting. Sadly it rusted to dust over the coming years. Very sad 😢

  • @louisgiokas2206
    @louisgiokas2206 Рік тому +6

    I remember, in 1974, the first time I was in Milan, seeing a lot of these cars. They all seemed to be 1300 Juniors. They were almost all red. I had not bought my first car (that would turn out to be a 1967 Austin Healey Sprite MK III). My brother had a 1968 Triumph GT6, and we were really into sports cars, so seeing all those Alfas in downtown Milan was really special.

  • @James-ld2jc
    @James-ld2jc Рік тому +33

    One of the most desirable cars. So subtle and perfect proportions. It's a true thing of beauty. The modifications seem to have improved it too!
    Nice one Jack

    • @hughstultz7849
      @hughstultz7849 Рік тому

      Peak Alfa, any 105 series. Apparently on par price wise with a contemporary e-type , so perhaps not quite as attainable as suggested in the film.

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s Рік тому +1

      @@hughstultz7849 e-type what?yes you´re right they only appear after 2010, before theere was none but some rusted GT juniors 1300 ,the body this car is using

  • @domtoni4567
    @domtoni4567 Рік тому +3

    Loved the 105 and the 124 spider you tested yesterday. Both fantastic. The Italians made some really great cars in the past.

  • @stevenfernando1842
    @stevenfernando1842 Рік тому +13

    Great review. I understand exactly what you’re saying. I own a 1600 GT Junior with Alfaholics suspension, a Alfetta GTV and a Sud Sprint 1.7. The Giulia feels the most special while the Alfetta feels more modern and sophisticated. The Sprint is the most fun. And yes the Giulia feels the best built. All three are amazing though ❤.

    • @Thecarman1994
      @Thecarman1994 Рік тому +3

      Lucky man !

    • @mariopizzamanmario8563
      @mariopizzamanmario8563 Рік тому +2

      Yes from all the Alfas I'd think this 105 and a Sud Sprint are the most fun. If I can ever find one that has been galvanised...

  • @JP19-67
    @JP19-67 Рік тому +4

    That picture of you back in the day 27
    Who would have thought, Jack was a lad 😂

  • @philelliott5327
    @philelliott5327 Рік тому +7

    I owned and restored a 105 step front. I think the great handling comes from the way the rear axle is located with the massive T reaction bar. It steadies the axle in all directions, very clever. The steering itself is just a standard box, no rack but the rear axle gives it life. The brakes even in standard trim feel modern. Streets ahead of anything else in the sixties.

  • @Diecastclassicist
    @Diecastclassicist Рік тому +3

    Late 60s / early 70s is peak EVERYTHING, not just Alfas!

  • @davidmcmurray6932
    @davidmcmurray6932 Рік тому +2

    Hi Jack, I agree with your evaluation of the 105 series. 52 years ago I was fortunate enough to have the use of a friend's white GT 1300 Junior for 6 weeks in Port Moresby, Papua/New Guinea. Coming from my Mini 850 (the Australian-built Mini Minor) it was a revelation. I still today remember the glorious sounds, the beautifully-weighted controls and the totally involving driving experience. In the decades since I've often used the term: "soul" to describe that car, even though I usually avoid applying human characteristics to inanimate objects. It really was one of my most memorable experiences. I believe everyone interested in cars should, for at least part of their driving career, have a thorough first-hand experience of the magic that a great Alfa provides.

  • @Wolfson47
    @Wolfson47 Рік тому +6

    I owned a 1971 GTV, most memorial car I've ever owned and I've had over 40 cars.

  • @judih.8754
    @judih.8754 Рік тому +5

    One of the prettiest cars ever.

  • @davidw5814
    @davidw5814 Рік тому +5

    I had a rare 105 series Guilia GTC in the mid 80's. I bought it from RW Banks who later became Alfaholics. Richard Banks restored the bodywork for me and the car looked stunning!
    I sold it ( for 6k! ) when the kids came along 😢 of course I wish I still had it....

    • @3ducs
      @3ducs Рік тому +1

      he GTC was a rare car, how I wish I'd restored the GT Jr. I parted out in the late '80s. In the early '70s I worked part time at an Alfa dealership in Falls Church, Virginia. They had a GTC on sale, also a GTA. The GTA was priced around $4,000....

  • @gilberrocal1363
    @gilberrocal1363 Рік тому +1

    I’ve owned 1 78 spyder, 71 gtv1750 with carbs, 73gtv inj, 84 maratona, 82 gtv6 bollacco, 2 85 gtv6s , they’re great , favorite-84 maratona, loved all of them !

  • @cesime
    @cesime 6 місяців тому +1

    this model was my first alfa romeo in the 70s since then i had another 3 and atm drive a giulietta QF brilliant car

  • @fridonina
    @fridonina Рік тому +3

    What a lovely sound ! No modern car can come even close to the sound of twin webers ! Thanks for this

    • @tsb3093
      @tsb3093 8 місяців тому

      They were not all fitted with Weber carburettors….some had Dellortos and I think some may have had Solexes.

  • @sailingspark9748
    @sailingspark9748 Рік тому +2

    Having owned a Giulia, I would love to have another as a fun car/partial daily, but living along the seaside, with all it's salt and humidity, precludes that. If I lived somewhere with less moisture in the air, I would have another in a heartbeat.

  • @MarkGelderland
    @MarkGelderland Рік тому +1

    Addictive sound, no need for a radio in this great Alfa.

  • @srlane61
    @srlane61 Рік тому +6

    There was plenty more to come from Alfa after the 105 series. Late model Alfasuds with the 1.7L boxer engines, especially the Sprints. Superbly balanced rear transaxle Alfettas. The Busso V6 in all its forms. 155s looking fantastic and winning race series. 4Cs with proper carbon tubs - and the Giulia V6 500hp cars. I have a step-front 1600 GTV and it's great - but my 164 24v car is great too, so no, I don't think it was "all downhill from here.."

  • @barry7608
    @barry7608 Рік тому +3

    Thanks I'm commenting from Oz and remember one of my favourite cars the Alpha 1750 GTV chasing the specialist GT Ford and GTS Monaro V8's at our long distance Bathurst 500 (miles) race. The Alphas were always right up there with front runners, simply loved the Alphas and the Cooper S's chasing them, never far behind after 500 miles.

    • @georgebettiol8338
      @georgebettiol8338 Рік тому

      The privateer run Alfa 1750 was fourth outright at the 1968 Hardie Ferrodo 500. It was beaten by the Holden Monaro 327 (5300 cc) V8 - a car equipped with the GM Corvette/Camaro engine that was 3 times the size of the Alfa's 1750 cc. A better result was achieved in 1967, with the Alfa 1600 GT Veloce where it was placed third behind a pair of factory prepared Falcon GTs that used the venerable 289 (4700cc) V8 engine. I suspect the Alfas would have posed and even greater threat had they had factory support.

    • @dielaughing73
      @dielaughing73 Рік тому

      ​@@georgebettiol8338but if it has won they probably would have just banned it anyway..

  • @davegreg
    @davegreg Рік тому +1

    What a sound.....an old skool twin cam on twin 45's, very nostalgic - ya just don't hear that anymore unfortunately. The Alfa itself is gorgeous too!😉

  • @gordonkachuk5457
    @gordonkachuk5457 Рік тому +1

    Yes I agree with you that this was indeed peak Alfa with the 105 series. I owned a 2000 Berlina, a 2000 Spider and a 2000 GTV and loved every single one of them, in fact one of the greatest cars ever was the 2000 GTV. I went on owning an Alfetta 2000 and a GTV6 but none compared to the 2000 GTV. I even ended up racing one in the late 70's in the Trans Europe Trophy. Absolutely wonderful memories and I truly believe the 105 GT's are one of the prettiest cars ever designed. (Thank you Giorgietto).

  • @washingtonirving8422
    @washingtonirving8422 Рік тому +9

    Jack's regrettably right! These cars really do represent the glory days when Alfa was head and shoulders above the competition with BMW still in diapers and Merc making taxis and land-yachts. I have so much respect for a company that toed the line by making some of the most beautiful exotica ever put on four wheels and family sedans (and all while being owned by the state).
    Here's hoping that in the EV-age they can claw their way back to the top!

    • @garethmcrae668
      @garethmcrae668 Рік тому

      Giulia Quadrifoglio GTAm: 'Ahem... am I nothing to you?!'

  • @freerkderuiter8822
    @freerkderuiter8822 Рік тому +5

    The 105 GTV must be one of the prettiest cars ever. So few lines, so well proportioned. Unfortunately I've never driven one, but I'll take your word for it. This is peak Alfa Romeo.

  • @terryhand
    @terryhand Рік тому +1

    I had a 105 series Spider and a 101 series Giulia Spider. I always wanted a 105 GTV but somehow never got around to it.

  • @arneklang2357
    @arneklang2357 Рік тому +2

    Had a 1750 GTV. 1970, bought it 1972. The price was around 1100:-. The best Memory is the ciggaret lighter. Several times on gravel roads I was just "spinning around". Nowdays I only have a few pictures left.....

    • @FredScuttle456
      @FredScuttle456 3 місяці тому

      My father bought his GTV in 1974. I came home from school, saw it in the drive and sat in it for 30 minutes. It's super cool if your Dad buys an Alfa and you're 15. It sits in my garage as I write this. I want to drive it today but I won't because it's raining. Drive an Alfa in the rain, and 30 minutes later all you'll have is four rubber tyres and a rusty puddle. I exaggerate a bit but not much.

  • @peterlorimer4865
    @peterlorimer4865 9 місяців тому

    Great video. Excellennt enthusiasm. I had a two headlight 105 GT Junior in the 1970s, so I know all about that wonderful steering and the dual circuit 4 wheel disc brakes. This was before things like the Golf GTi and XR3 got a hold, so there really wasn't an alternative. Sadly, mine dissolved at not much more than 3 years old. (A couple of Alfasuds followed. Great handlers in their own way, but not the same.)

  • @martinclapton2724
    @martinclapton2724 Рік тому +4

    On the contrary, I thought the 5 speed box in the 105 series was one of the best 5 speed changes of all time. Mechanically precise, oily slick delightful in its movement. 5 th gear just a handspan from the steering wheel , with smaller short movement shifts , you have to take your hand a greater distance to operate. It’s best to FEEL the change with fingertip movements - that’s how you drive an Alfa.

    • @georgebettiol8338
      @georgebettiol8338 Рік тому +1

      Agree - if the syncros are in good condition the gear change should be buttery smooth and and a delight to use. The only element that some drivers don't like is the long throw - which when compared to today's cars is unusual. Notably, motoring scribes of the period had high praise for the gear change and there was no mention of the long throws being an issue.

    • @martinclapton2724
      @martinclapton2724 Рік тому

      @@georgebettiol8338 correct. My friend back in the 1990s used to have a 1978. Mk 2 Ford Escort RS2000, which had an excellent change in 4 speed form - Fords of the 1960 s /70s were remembered for the the excellent gearbox , however, he was bemused by the Alfa shift in my Alfasud Sprint which , although was not so direct a change as RWD Alfas from before , still had a nice change keeping longer throws and the positioning of 5th relative to the steering wheel .

  • @clivetaylor4300
    @clivetaylor4300 Рік тому

    Just came across this video and thoroughly enjoyed your critique. I have a 1972 2000 GTV in Le Mans Blue. I've had the car almost 13 years and made a few adjustments including fast road suspension from Classic Alfa UK, 15" GTA stle rims from Alfaholics and added trumpets with socks to the 40mm Delorto carbies for a nice throaty engine sound. Still looking to do a few more things to it but it is a joy to drive and always puts a smile on your face.

    • @tsb3093
      @tsb3093 8 місяців тому +1

      I also owned a 2000GTV in LeMans Blue….a 1975 car. Definitely a beautiful colour for the car and so much nicer than all those red ones…I sold it for a decent profit a couple of years later (82-84) as I had bought another in Dutch Blue which I still have. That Leman Blue car, JFS67N, is still around and looking in great condition. Enjoy yours.

  • @MarcosCodas
    @MarcosCodas Рік тому +1

    One of my dream cars, this.

  • @Cento24
    @Cento24 Рік тому +1

    The 105 is the ducks nuts of classic cars. Way above all others. Brilliant!

  • @ebahapo
    @ebahapo Рік тому +1

    You forgot to point out that it’s yet another masterpiece by Giugiaro. It used to be a not uncommon sighting when I was growing up. Sadly, it’s sort of a rarity nowadays.

  • @Indy_at_the_beach
    @Indy_at_the_beach Рік тому +2

    I had a '71 GTV 1750 and it was a delight. It handled well, stopped well, and revved well. It wasn't the fastest (I got smoked regularly by gum chewing teenage girls in Civics hustling to the mall) but it had charm.
    A large part of the charm derived form its lovely body. The Alfettas that followed had better suspensions but the bodies were not up to snuff IMO.
    Ironically what I really wanted was the Berlina saloon but never found one. That would have been far more useful for hauling my friends around but then the engine would never have been able to show any zip.
    I drove it up and down California's Highway 1. Arguably the best environment in the US for this car. Those trips made for memories that stick with me 40 years later. That s the Alfa magic

  • @johnmatthews1095
    @johnmatthews1095 Рік тому +1

    Yes I think so. A 1750 was the Alfa I was considering when I bought my 1740 912. Possibly the most beautiful 4 seater ever ? Racing pedigree behind it. I went the 60s Porsche safe option and have had zero issues in 13 years so no regrets. Always thought they were undervalued last 20 years but nowadays people recognise their worth.

  • @carltwidle9046
    @carltwidle9046 Рік тому +1

    Nice little Alfa. It looks good in red

  • @aleksandarmarkovic4992
    @aleksandarmarkovic4992 Рік тому +1

    This is pure, no computer nonsense, all mechanical vehicle with a beautiful design

  • @byhsu6140
    @byhsu6140 Рік тому +1

    One of the most beautiful classic Alfas. Red is great color on these cars.

  • @155andRising
    @155andRising Рік тому +5

    Such a dream car . Personally I prefer the Scalino front with the single headlights and no bumpers

  • @aussieausdeutschland4245
    @aussieausdeutschland4245 Рік тому +1

    Definitely are the pinnacle of Alfa Romeo, the look is flipping fantastic, that throaty growl of the twin Webber's are an aural delight, never driven one but they look like they can be chucked through the fun twisty bits with ease.
    I had the chance to buy a rusty one 30 years ago... on one hand I wish I did, but the other hand Knew that I dodged a bullet. 😂😂😂😂

  • @MartinD-r1f
    @MartinD-r1f Рік тому +1

    Twin Webber induction sound - unbeatable

  • @joeambaye8681
    @joeambaye8681 Рік тому +1

    105 definitely a class act. I had 5 car, 1300s, a 1750 and 2000 when they were cheap and not desirable. How things have changes☮️

  • @georgebettiol8338
    @georgebettiol8338 Рік тому +3

    Great review of the Alfa 105 coupe. The dash on the featured 1600 version is the last iteration used on the 105 series Alfas and is identical to the version fitted to the 2000 - with exception that it does not contain the 2000 script. If the syncros are in good condition the gear change should be buttery smooth and and a delight to use. The only element that some drivers don't like is the long throw - which when compared to today's cars is unusual. Notably, motoring scribes of the period had high praise for the gear change and there was no mention of the long throws being an issue.

    • @backyardprojects9945
      @backyardprojects9945 Рік тому

      +1

    • @garethmcrae668
      @garethmcrae668 Рік тому +1

      Was going to be pedantic and say that's actually a 115 but thought better of it...😊

    • @georgebettiol8338
      @georgebettiol8338 Рік тому +1

      @@garethmcrae668 You are correct. The 115XX nomenclature was instigated on late 'series 3' Juniors (I owned a RHD version) - ones that predate the series 4 juniors that resembled the bigger 2000 GTV. The rationale for the change was that Alfa had exhausted the 105XX numbering scheme so moved to 115XX.

    • @garethmcrae668
      @garethmcrae668 Рік тому

      @@georgebettiol8338 I managed to pick up a tired 1976 Dutch Blue GT Junior in lockdown and am proceeding to chuck my kid's inheritance at it. It transpires that the Scottish climate and Italian sill design is a recipe for disastro...
      Still besotted!

  • @cristianocastagno9680
    @cristianocastagno9680 Рік тому +7

    I agree with you Jack, they are absolutely beautiful cars, indeed the pinnacle of Alfa style. Admittedly the original engine would have been considerably tamer…
    That is a very desirable car, especially in that configuration but yes the gearboxes were terrible, it’s Achillea heel.

  • @KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland
    @KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland Рік тому +1

    Terrific engine sound! Brilliant growl Went to university sometime in a Guilia of a friend with a 2,0 lit engine and balance crank/pistons. It sounded a little bit the same... Memories!

  • @martentrudeau6948
    @martentrudeau6948 Рік тому +3

    Aesthetically it's a gorgeous car, most of them built in the 1960s, pre-federal regs. It's great driving car, meant to be driven with passion, It's very Italian. I have always loved this car.

  • @felixarbable
    @felixarbable Рік тому +2

    I have a gtJ 1600 with the single headlights but with a later body, considered the less desirable version but i love the look of it and the 1600 engine is great

  • @ChristianRThomas
    @ChristianRThomas Рік тому +5

    Yep, I think it's peak Alfa. Like you it was my first car too - £400 for a '74 GT1600 Junior in 1980 - and I wish I had it now and wish I'd appreciated it more. First car I went >100mph in, between Edinburgh and Glasgow. I really can't believe the prices these days, but they only show how stupid I was. Maybe the GTV6 above the AlfaSud is proper peak Alfa. I remember liking those a LOT. But this Giugiaro body has really stood the test of time and has a lovely organic look to it. Of course the Spider was utterly drop dead gorgeous, and that's the car I really wanted at the time.

    • @adrianmonk4440
      @adrianmonk4440 Рік тому

      Like House's & Cars (US Miata). Once speculatators, investors, the 50+ (gotz money set) starts buying, prices go thru the roof. New car prices pull up used car prices. The MG-B, college student car is long DEAD.

  • @lunabouch
    @lunabouch Рік тому +1

    Nice Jack. Your summary of this Alfa shows your respect for the beautiful Italian design and drive🇮🇹🇮🇹

  • @scal2520
    @scal2520 Рік тому +2

    Che' Bella! Timeless styling combined with classic performance. The Alfaholics treatment puts it tops on my list of attainable classic sports coupes.

  • @sebastianiangrasso764
    @sebastianiangrasso764 8 місяців тому +1

    Could not agree with you more,I have owned both a 1750 gtv and a 2000gtv. Both those cars were a pleasure to own and drive. Unmolested mechanically I found the 1750 to have a slight advantage over the 2000.
    A huge regret in later years to have parted with them!

  • @henryhol8538
    @henryhol8538 Рік тому +2

    This is my dream car! It my love for this model that got me into Alfa Romeos in the first place. You can keep your Supercars, a 105 Series Coupe GTV four headlamp car with choice Alfaholics bits will suit me. I once went to an Alfaholics open day and was like a kid in a sweetshop!

  • @MikeyBee1
    @MikeyBee1 Рік тому +7

    Such a pretty car, and if anything has got better with age. I prefer the single headlights / no bumper look as it's not as busy and suits the clean lines of the body so much better. Sadly like most iconic cars, they're out of my budget now...

  • @donaldelder540
    @donaldelder540 Рік тому +2

    I love that model, but my favorite is the gtv6. I remember drooling over them when I was a teenager

  • @TheStevemcqueen68
    @TheStevemcqueen68 Місяць тому

    I have never driven 105 , until the other day, I was blown away how well it was , smooth ,sat on the road so well, comfortable ,fast . for a classic car , this one is on my list.

  • @johnandrews3568
    @johnandrews3568 Рік тому +1

    I have to disagree with you Jack, on the front end. The 105 IS the sweetspot for Alfa, but the twin headlight step-nose is IMO the best looking variant of the bunch. Just gorgeous!

  • @francoisbessac
    @francoisbessac Рік тому +2

    For sure, with such power, the pleasure is more obvious than with 105 hp!

  • @dusandestanovic5884
    @dusandestanovic5884 Рік тому +1

    I love it. It is so natural and sincere and maybe a better Ferrari than a Ferrari, if it strikes you the right way.

  • @hannchris2762
    @hannchris2762 Рік тому +1

    Jack that Alfa is stunning absolutely love it

  • @atatexan
    @atatexan Рік тому +1

    I had a South African-built Alfa 105 (1600GTJ) that I absolutely loved. Silver with white interior. Same grill as yours.. The Alfaholics mods in yours makes me drool.

  • @francescotenti193
    @francescotenti193 Рік тому +4

    Great video and great car also affordable to a lot of people. Way ahead of its time with an all aluminum engine, revving easily to and past 6,000 rpm,, double overhead cams and 5 speed gearbox disc breaks all around and in the very early 60's!!! I was surprised to see that you engaged 2nd gear with no issues, usually the 2nd goes out of synchro quite frequently and so it can be tricky to shift into it. Long throws are also an Alfa "thing", the car that did not have that was the 164S, great engine and transmission not to mention the rest of it. I wish I'd never sold it, too bad!

  • @TheEarlofK
    @TheEarlofK Рік тому +1

    I think you're probably right about the 1960s being peak Alfa in terms of design and build quality, but I shall always have a soft spot for my 1985 Alfa GTV6, which I still think was beautiful from every angle with a wondrous engine, although I think it compromised the handling of the car.

  • @MCS4FUN
    @MCS4FUN Рік тому +1

    Hard to disagree with your overall perspectives, so I won't! As former from-new '74 GTV owner (USA-spec 115 with SPICA injection), I too preferred exterior and interior styling of prior year models, however I bought mine late in 1974 when few remained in dealer inventory, soon after replaced by the Alfetta GTV which didn't much appeal to me. As many of us did back then, had the cylinder head ported by Shankle Automotive and I installed Euro-spec 10.1 (IIRC) cams too which bumped up power a bit, then did some club time trialing at the long gone RIR track in SoCal. Owned that GTV nearly 25 years, sold with immediate regrets.

  • @jdac7451
    @jdac7451 Рік тому +1

    Got to be my favourite Italian car. Gorgeous!

  • @nickmatthews4939
    @nickmatthews4939 Рік тому

    I love this era of quad-light fronted cars. The Triumph Toledo Sprint may have taken a few design elements from the 105. A BIG 👍s up given.

    • @paulqueripel3493
      @paulqueripel3493 Рік тому

      Dolomite, the Toledo had single lights and was never sporty.

  • @gregglowenstein4473
    @gregglowenstein4473 11 місяців тому +1

    GTV 2000/1750 were bellissimo!

  • @3ducs
    @3ducs Рік тому +5

    The shift lever is actually well sized. It falls readily to hand on the same plane as the steering wheel. The synchros in the transmission are notorious for wearing, fortunately those Alfas have the best peddles for heel and toe work. Just work with the car as designed and you'll be a happy driver.

  • @Wargasm54
    @Wargasm54 Рік тому +1

    Ha! The picture of young Jack with a bottle of beer. 😂 Fucking stud.

  • @Akabei01
    @Akabei01 Рік тому +7

    I once had a 2000 GTV whose body needed "a little work" as the previous owner told me. Wow, that car was a nightmare. There's a spot somewhere in the rear where 5 (or was it even 7?) sheets are welded together. Guess what happens when humidity gets there. You better have the phone number of the god of welding at hand.
    Fortunately, I found another Alfa enthusiast who knew better how to handle the mess, so I was able to sell it to him for almost the same price I paid two months before. Driving it was a lot of fun, though.

    • @raypurchase801
      @raypurchase801 Рік тому +1

      Even the best-looking Alfas are often rotted-out.
      Pretty paint and filler can hide lots of faults.
      It's sunny today, so I think I'll take mine out for a blast a bit later.
      But NEVER if it's raining.

  • @red75v67
    @red75v67 Рік тому +1

    Miss my 2000GTV. A brilliant car and the current prices reflect that unfortunately

  • @stephenricketts7764
    @stephenricketts7764 Рік тому +1

    I have to agree the Alfa 105 series GTV was the best. I saw a TV shoe a while back and some guys in Australia were racing these in red with the yellow stripe around the front, don't know what engines they were running but they were loving it! The Spider of this era was a nice looking car too. Though someone I knew had a Spider new and it spent most of the time in the garage but I don't know if that is a fair reflection on the car as a whole. He had one of these prior to the Spider and had no problems at all. Thanks Jack for the review, that setup sounds great too. 👍👍

  • @ellarson1
    @ellarson1 Рік тому +1

    The 105 coupe is my ideal Alfa, to my eye they are one of the most beautiful cars ever made… more so than an e-type because of its utility.

  • @sicilia71
    @sicilia71 Рік тому

    I love alfas and these are one of my favourites of them all. I would love to have one

  • @ryanmccormick2150
    @ryanmccormick2150 Рік тому +1

    You're doing an amazing job with the channel buddy! Amazing car's and amazing content...... keep it up Jack 👍

  • @steveong4738
    @steveong4738 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video. Alfa Romeo lost the battle for 40 years since this car. Everyone was busy buying a BMW 3 series or a Mercedes C class despite the fact that Alfas provide a better driving experience at every level, but lack on quality. Given their current range with quality, the next 40 years could be Alfa Romeo if branded as "mini Ferraris"?!

  • @MrDallman
    @MrDallman Рік тому +8

    For me ,up to the new Giulia QF , it certainly was the jewel in Alfa’s crown. 🇨🇮 Nowadays the Giulia QF is ,by far ,the worlds finest sporting saloon . Just try one and I’m sure you will agree that nothing comes close and just look at it.

    • @healthabundanceforever4222
      @healthabundanceforever4222 Рік тому +4

      You sir have hit the nail on the head. Imagine in 50 years time when the ICE era is over and someone drives a QF. Everyone is underestimating how good the QF is. Not just a great Alfa but in the words of an auto journalist..."the reatest sports sedan the world has even seen". High praise indeed when you consider the E39 m5!

    • @MrDallman
      @MrDallman Рік тому +4

      @@healthabundanceforever4222 Many thanks , I bought my first one in 2017 after test driving it and have recently upgraded to a facelift 22 model . At 64 I have owned or driven most non super car performance machines and I can honestly say I cannot recall a car ,that appeals as much as a drivers car , as as the QF does . Every drive is an experience. Took it back to Italy 🇮🇹 for a trip to the Museum earlier this year , what fabulous experience that was , the drive was epic. I’m lucky enough to own a very early model spider which is a garage queen I’m afraid with only 6000 miles but it sits in garage and for me it’s a piece of Art , that’s what all Alfas are , they are pieces of fine art .
      Are you an Alfa driver ?
      Stay well my friend

    • @healthabundanceforever4222
      @healthabundanceforever4222 Рік тому +4

      Congratulations mate. You have what sounds like a garage of exquisite taste and appeal.
      Yes I am the proud owner of a 2017 Guilia QV. My 5th Alfa in a row and without question the best car I have owned (including a number of so called superior german vehicles). I alos own a Levante but dont hold that against me.
      I hope to upgrade to the very last Guilia QV when it gets announced.
      I tip my hat to you sir.

    • @MrDallman
      @MrDallman Рік тому +1

      @@healthabundanceforever4222 That new model has increased BHP ( as if it needed it ) I understand, that sounds an amazing proposition. You mention the Levante ,well funnily enough we has the S model
      when they first came out and absolutely loved it , I traded in my 4.2 Grand Turismo ( my gosh I loved that car, best noise ever). Well good luck with the new 23 model QF I’m envious. What colour will you go for?
      ATB to you .

    • @healthabundanceforever4222
      @healthabundanceforever4222 Рік тому +1

      @@MrDallman lol. Were we separated at birth! I had a gransport before the Levante and a massive laminated photo of a granturismo MC in my garage. I am going to get one and very torn between the irreplaceable noise of the previous generation or the modern interpretation that needs no excuses with its exquisite blend of modern luxury and refinement.
      First world problems!

  • @BanjoLuke1
    @BanjoLuke1 Рік тому +3

    You might be right... from the 60s, 70s and maybe the 80s, Alfa had about six or seven sweet spots. Each of them is in its own way the sweetest in one way or another.
    I think the final vote may come down to the generation of the voter.
    But probably you are right.
    This is the best; along with the other ones that are also the best.

  • @iansmeath8674
    @iansmeath8674 Рік тому

    Thanks!

    • @Number27
      @Number27  Рік тому

      Dear Ian, thank you and for the extra tip!! Glad you enjoyed it..

  • @richardjones2468
    @richardjones2468 Рік тому +1

    Another great video Jack. One aspect I found interesting though was you thought the gearshift was not that great with its long throws. In the times of the 105s all the road testers thought that gear change was the pinnacle other manufacturers should aspire to. The comparison of the mechanical feel to the well oiled bolt action of a better quality rifle was one comment I remember. The closeness of the gearshift to the steering wheel by the way was from racing experience. Of all the Alfas I`ve owned and worked on I`ve found them all great cars although there is no such thing as the perfect car regardless of brand. The 101 series was pretty good too and didn`t feel any lesser quality but the 105s are special although I think you should try a good 116 too. Remember to look at the time frame all these old cars were produced and comments on "plasticy interiors" will be seen to be an opinion of modern times rather than a display of the use of modern materials and "designer edgey".I know if you weren`t there its very hard to see through the eyes of another time and older attitudes, tastes and standards.

  • @markw4263
    @markw4263 Рік тому

    That ca4 - and the associated Spyders - were truly Alfa’s high point. If I could have another (orange) one today I’d grab it in an instant!

  • @alexeijolkin7851
    @alexeijolkin7851 Рік тому +2

    Yes, cannot agree more. An absolute pinnacle Alfa!

  • @wearetomorrowspast.5617
    @wearetomorrowspast.5617 Рік тому

    That's a lovely car. A mate had a Giulia and it was a stunner.
    For me though, peak Alfa was my Alfasud 1.5 Ti. I loved that car.
    Still kicking myself for getting shot of it.
    Cool vid, cheers.

  • @TheInstructor66
    @TheInstructor66 Рік тому

    I have a 1969 1300 Gt Junior (stepnose), in bluette, with a «fast road» 1750 series 2 engine. Is a keeper.🍀
    I agree; those are great cars. Look gorgerous and driver-oriented cars.
    The car in the video looks like it’s a late GT 1600 Junior, originally. They had the 2000 Gtv dash and seats. And some had the 1750 Gtv middle console. Also the 2000 Gtv had the bigger taillights.
    And: the 1750/2000 Berlina’s and the Montreal, are also parts of the 105-serie.
    Anyway; the car featured here is a beauty. Thank you for upload a video of a tipo 105 again!

  • @matthewshaw3144
    @matthewshaw3144 Рік тому

    Love love love the 105
    A gf a school have the 1750 in a purple blue colour, it had momo wheels and a sunroof. Was stunning

  • @scottireland5414
    @scottireland5414 Рік тому

    I remember watching these Alfa GTVs battling the Datsun 510s at Road America in early 70s. Beauty vs the boxes.

  • @federicomalignani4957
    @federicomalignani4957 Рік тому +1

    Yessss,true Alfa Romeos,even if this is heavily modified and upgraded to modern standards. But the fact that they are still so amusing and nice to drive,confirms that they were excellent cars fifty or more years ago. I personally love any screw of these Alfa Gt. Great engines,great sound,great handling in nimble,compact and light cars. You can have 500 bhp and four wheel drive but if the car weights 1800 kg you'll never reach the satisfaction of driving a 130 bhp,rear wheel drive and 900 kg car. After all this was what Colin Chapman made with his Lotuses.

  • @FstopPicturesByAlunDavies
    @FstopPicturesByAlunDavies Рік тому

    My dad had a duetto. Which was fabulous though she had some electric gremlins that hampered her from being a summer daily driver. I think it had the 1750 cc. Motor but I can’t remember.

  • @ugo_morbelli
    @ugo_morbelli Рік тому +2

    I have a 1750 gtv Bertone that I restored completly by myself and use almost daily. I agree with you in a lot of points, but even if alfaholics do great fun cars i prefer original engines because of more aggressif sound by carb inlet pipes (without air filter). For hillclimb they are absolutely fun! Is a pity for me that I am Italian and work in automotive to see what they are today....😤

  • @craftingmat5425
    @craftingmat5425 Рік тому

    I L - O - V - E the Junior! It is one of my absolute favorite classics. Great, exceptional proportions and the grill... you already said and nailed it... outright perfect!
    The major thing holding me back so far was the rumors about lacking reliability.