One of the most beautiful small cars ever , in my opinion. Such balanced lines. My best friend had a 1750 GTV, back in the 70s. 5 speed gearbox too...very unusual and exotic in those times.
correct but never a gt junior with parts from the gt, or in the manual GT2000veloce, with 5 gear manual box, there is the GTA but no one talks about the best alfa rally car from the early to mid 70´s
I first dove a 1750 when I lived in South Africa and just simply loved it and that was the car that got me liking Alfas.. Twice had the opportunity to buy a 308 and cried shy on both occasions frightened at the running costs. I now own an 916GTV 3.0 V6 so can't complain. Love the channel !!
My 1975 1600 GTJ felt underpowered, I later had the engine replaced for a 2000 that came out of an Alfetta GTV. My father sawed off a piece of the engine block to make the carburettors fit. After some proper tuning the car produced 128 BPH at rear axle. Approaching the 200km/h top speed I would literally hold myself to the steering wheel. It was pure joy to drive. smelling the heated oil, hear the air intake and the beautiful exhaust note (minimal muffler) and feeling part of the drivetrain that ran front to back. A very desirable move up would be one of the Alfaholics creations. Thanks for sharing !
I always believed the 1750 GTV was based on the 2600 sprint of the 60s just scaled down, it was my first time in an Alfa my manager Mr Alto in Burlington Tavern Swansea had one n I had a Ford Zodiac both strait 6 engines mine 2553cc I was happy with my Ford very happy in Fact till he gave me a ride in his Afla n round twisting country roads it was in a different animal it was like a dog n a cheetah n mine wasn't the cheetah i thought it was loved Aflas ever since But never had one drove few n I loved the Alfasud sprint it was brilliant round corners with an amazing sound another great video mate thanks
For equal money, I'd certainly choose the Alfa over the Influenzo. The 1750 is the best of the 105s, and looks fantastic in any color. Great designs always do. Granted the wherewithal, there are few cars on planet earth that I would choose over this particular Alfa. And I do not like 4cyl engines, as a rule (high-RPM race engines are different). Alfa Romeo fours are an extremely rare exception. I love its old-school purity, it sounds wonderful, I love the exterior, I love the interior, it's the perfect size for a proper sports coupe... Everything is just right. Lovely thing. Kudos to the owner.
We were in the small convoy of Porsches, in Hubby's white 3.2 Carrera seen at 4:24... our first thought: "Wow! Look at that lovely Alfa! Going for it as well!" Small world, Jack :o)
Ah yes, how lovely is a well sorted 105 Series Alfa Romeo? Very! And that twin cam, Italian 4 cylinder tone...fantastic. Great vid, thanks for posting.
Had a 1969 ALFA spider with injected Spica 1750 that I bought new ad kept for over 40 years....with lots of mods it was a fantastic car and very fast and excellent handling. But it is the modern day mods that made it so amazing. I now have a ALFA 4C....with just a few simple mods it is so much faster than the old one and a gorgeous looking car. It is also very reliable and bullet proof on track. The point is....many cars can be greatly improved with a few mods and $$$. A friend has an ALFAHolics 190 and it is a beautiful and very fast car with excellent handling car but $200,000 US dollars.
Saw a red one out in Cheshire a couple of weeks ago. Stood out so much against the boring crowd of repmobiles. Assume was stock, not Alfaholics, but gorgeous.
Let’s face it, we all love the Magnum P.I. Ferrari....., it’s a classic Ferrari and it’s shape, design and colour are a great package..., it’s somewhat flawed in comparison as it is standard in the way of suspension, driveline etc, whereas this Alfa is a different kettle of fish, it’s an old car but with lots of modern upgrades, therefore incomparable apart from the fact that it’s Italian heritage. I ADORE that Alfa, it’s a testament to its owner, but, if you did the same modernising on you Ferrari, who knows. Let’s face it, ALL Italian cars are a symphony and a joy to behold, and long may they be.
I remember show rooms when these were new. Made a great 'Second Car' and a weekend Club Star and Rally car. Power to weight and handling made a great package and at the time $2500, you couldn't go wrong.
Lovely package and condition of a 105 Alfa. My '71 white GTV 1750 is the stock unfettled version of what you drove and it's a time capsule and time machine of driving in that era, and with 49 years into it's life.
Love the Alfa, sounds great. I always thought these were very plain cars when I was young. Age and experience has opened my eyes. Nearly bought a GTV 2.5 V6 years ago... it was outside a farm in Cheshire. Opened the door.. it sank about 3 inches... noting to worry about mate he said... it’ll be the pins...yeah bye. It sounded great though. Don’t think you can fairly compare what is effectively a rebuilt highly tuned car worth £75k with your work in progress 308. As someone commented, sort the exhaust and suspension and maybe the brakes and you’ll have a gorgeous looking iconic Ferrari that’s goes down the road a lot better!! Love the post!!
Interesting video. I had a 2000 GTV - paid £14k for it in 2012 . It had a Harvey Bailey suspension set up, a Hayward and Scott custom exhaust matched to Alfaholics manifolds. Everything else was standard and had 46,000 miles with full history. It handled beautifully and sounded absolutely glorious. It’s probably now worth £45k. I do however feel that modifying these cars with parts, especially those that mean it cannot be returned to its original state, actually reduce the value. It was the value I place on originality that also influenced my suggestion that the 308 could be repainted to its original hue of white and for the exhaust to be returned to a single outlet system with improved (but reversible) modification to the induction. This white Alfa is nice on the face of it, however for me it’s not worth £70k. A pristine original example with fewer miles would be less than this. Each to their own though and hope he finds a buyer who will continue taking care of it
my 72 GT 2000 veloce it´s all original and drives and turns perfect, no need for improvements, only the Gta ,the rally car was improved along the years ,and was a infernal machine along with a escort RS 2000 mkII body ,both my rally cars when younger
A common fault with the steering is for the steering box to come partially-adrift and twist as the steering wheel is turned. If your Alfa's steering is unintuitive, it's a good place to look. The 1750 is usually shod with 165 tyres. Fit 185 tyres and you'll have phenomenal grip, but close-turning at parking speed requires big muscles.
I loved my GTV 1600. My wife and I drove it everywhere around Italy. I still have a picture of me with my car on the wall of Luca. Loved the green with brown interior. I left it with a friend in Italy that I thought could drive the car. His father has a couple of 😅sport cars. Came a year later and found he loss control and put it into a pole at 135 mph. He was not hurt. My Alfa was special to me. I build a very good roll cage and increase the performance. I drove it in local road rally’s. My Alfa could travel all day long above 100mph with no problems. We drove from Pisa to Aviano in 2 1/2 hours, a distance of 242 miles. I really loved my Alfa, no BMW 2002 or 911 every beat it.
I bought a mate’s 1750 Berlina having previously owned two Mini Cooper S’s. It had been owned by a friend who was restoring its body when he bought a Dino. The Berlina was more or less the same as your 105 GT and I can’t believe your disappointment with its steering and handling. It was a joyous car in every way. It truly was an extension of your fingers and toes. I think you must have owned a tired example as you suggest. Will never forget that drive from Sydney to the snow in Perisher in it. I had it resprayed only to find the dreaded rust had not been entirely cut out and upgraded to a 1750 Alfetta. It was similarly joyous but perhaps lacked that utterly direct steering feel and connection with the road of the Berlina due to the different steering and gearbox being in the rear. The 105 for its time was a sheer wonder. You clearly had owned a badly maintained example. The Alfetta was upgraded to a Giulietta 2L due to rust which we owned from new for 24 years (rust free). More balanced but not quite as tactile as the Berlina. Would adore an Alfaholics 105.
so happy you finally enjoyed a 105. Much the same as you I sold my well sorted 2000GTV over ten years ago and regretted it ever since. My car in splendid Verde Pino (1974) was a bit of a pig to drive when I first bought it, but over the years we adjusted the suspension bit by bit, upgraded to electronic ignition, threw out the heavy factory air-conditioner compressor and replaced with a modern light weight Japanese one (aircon is a must in the Aussie climate) all in all it run and handled like a gem when I sold it. I also owned a 105 GTC and a 105 Quatro Route Zagato which both are very desirable, but by far my 2000GTV was the most fun and I did a lot of club racing and rallies on difficult Australian tracks and road in it and ten years after selling it still miss it. I now got a modern Giulia and a modern Giulietta, nice cars but not the spirit of a well sorted 105
What an ace video. I wish they were longer The Alfa is gorgeous, way up high on my wish list , just a pity they are so pricey Deffo the best motoring you tuber out there 👍👍
Well, they're pricey but they're also a cashier's check. Among the most requested in the world by collectors, their value always rises and you sell them very easily (if well preserved).
.. then we would also have an ‘apples for apples’ comparison. I think we need to see the 308 on decent suspension & tyres to be able to objectively compare. 308 is waay more pretty than the 105. I mean they are nice, but seriously .....
I will always have a special place in my heart and memories for Alfa 105s My Dad had a couple and a few Guilias. They were 20 year old cars when I was a child but I felt so proud and a little like I was in a Ferrari (in Australia) whenever I was driven in any of them.
I remember my first car Fiat Ritmo Abarth 130TC , I know different era but when you open that hood and that engine very similar and very happy engine 😁
@don cherry It's a 77 and currently being painted....if you look on instagram my name is omegaman911 :-) Actually the E90 M3 is one of the best cars I have ever owned.
don cherry ah yeah my brother had an e39 M5, great car and fairly cheap these days . 540 with a Dinan kit must have been nice , I’ve always liked the E38 740’s so nice to drive . Yeah there are Merc pics on there ....it’s work in progress .,
I had the exact same one you’re driving in.. but metallic bronze. Dual webers. I was stationed in Augsburg and drove to Italy a lot on leave. I completely rebuilt the engine and boy it just drove like crazy. Loved it
Nice surprise this, glad you like the car, I’m a few years into my restomod journey with a GT 1600 in Le Mans Blue, mildly upgraded in a few areas. They certainly are lively and feelsome cars to drive and I think part of that is how small and easy to place they are on the road.
Really look forward to your videos dropping and have never been disappointed. You’ll be on 100k subscribers by the end of the year if there is any justice. Absolutely love the Influenza series especially 👍🏽
What a wonderful car. Stunning looks but I still favour the Ferrari design. 308 was my dream car as a kid and what brought me to your (excellent) channel . Wish I knew more about motors rather than meddling with vintage watches.
The aftermarket seats probably helped with the suspension. I have a '74 Spider with a 2L SPICA that I'm restoring mainly because the GTV in USA is more than I can afford. I had my monumental acceleration for over a decade with my '05 Cadillac CTS-V.
We transferred an entire 72 veloce including the engine, suspension, diff and even the pedals into my dad's 67 dueto. Ditched the ignition points for a piranha led. He even moved the battery to the trunk. Dad picked up factory racing cams in italy. That car would drive at 70 mph like it was only doing 30 mph.
Way back, I had a 79 US Sprint Veloce (hatchback - 2L - dual Weber carbs - no AC) and after college I needed some cash and sold it. The greatest mistake I ever made. The only thing I want now, I have done the rest, is to get another old school Alpha. Most fun car I ever had. I have had some great cars and have a few really, really nice ones still. To anyone reading this these are terrible and don't buy one. You need to leave one for me. Nice video mate~!
The 1750 is one of automotives finest hours across all vehicle classes and budgets. Just proper sportscar engineering, fantastic design and serious craftsmanship executed into an absolute icon.
they are world´s apart ,i have both but the GT veloce 2000(72) is bigger than the GT junior body (7 cars from 69 to 79, there was a revolution in my country and alfa sold the gt junior body till late 70´s with a plus ,the seller would ask wich dash ,tail lights ,front grill you wanted installed in your new GT junior ,now called it GTV ),larger and lower to the road ,one is super fast other is tinyer but fast with the 1750 engine ,the ones i have only have a small 1.3L engine dual cam shaft as the 2.0L engine of the GT veloce but due to it´s size becomes fast , when i first saw a new GTV i thought it was a mistake and refering to the GTA (rally car) that i also have one , i have several 70´s cars from alfa romeu , mercedes, bmw , also a two fiat´s cars with powerfull engines the 132(the same as the 1750 gt) and the 130 coupé with a 3.0L v6 engine,this last i don´t know if it´s the original engine, when restored in the 80´s they covered the already hard to see numbers of the engine, i only paid full price for my 72 alfa gt 2000 veloce(bought new) the others only paid for one mercedes what today is 1.000€ others were bellow the 500€´s ,some even were ofered by their original owners and one BMW 2002 tii turbo i trade it for a good pioneer cassette deck ,this in early 80´s, where i live no one wanted the Ti or Tii only the four carburator 2002 because no one knew how to fix or tune the injection system developed by BMW , the only thing i find strange is that in early 90´s a friend of mine asked me to drive the 2000 GT veloce and broke the front grill with only two headlights and only after 10 years a alfa-romeu club in ITALY found a new grill for my car but now they seem to rain from above
That Alfa is doing things to my man parts.....I just sold my Porsche and bought a Brera....getting away from the flash and into a mad car world iv'e never experienced before....i'm going down a rabbit hole...loving it.
Funny how one associates cars with personalities, 100 years ago at school my very charismatic geography teacher (climbed Mt Everest) had several of these 105 series Alfas As a consequence I have always considered them to be very stylish
I've always liked these Alfas and also the Fiat dino the car I drive is a 2018 Kia rio 4dr sedan, 130 hp 6sd manuel weighing 2,650 lbs the handling is very sporting with very satisfying tourque and it also comes on @ 5 to 6000 rpm it does 80mph in 6th gear @ 3000 rpm very effortlessly but being 65 years of age I've not gone over just too many speed traps here in the U.S. to risk it oh yeah my rio ia also white keep em coming for all of us car guys
OMG.. I'm sitting here on a horrid rainy NZ winter's Sunday, thniking what 1 X decent Alfa could be doing in my life. Il earned to drive in my mum's Giulia Super, and this vid has catalysed a decision. I'm an aircooled Porsche guy, but just the engine tone of these things makes me shiver, and then there;s the chutzpah of the whole shootin'; match.
@@Number27 Funnily enough I am just starting to 'try' and write a sale advert for my 911. It's turning out to be more of a novel! :-/ I just need to find somebody who would let me have a go in such a lovely Alfa....
That's funny because I've owned three 147's, in a world of Golf's etc people look at my car and I get no end of compliments about how good it looks and the red leather seats always get a mention. Driving them feels special compared to other cars and people get a shock when they try to mix it up in tight turns, especially when I had Figaro, my rare 147 TS Sport which had a bad life before I got it but still whipped everything on the road in S bends and had 136,000 miles and was driven every day never broke down once but people who have "proper" Alfa's who don't even drive them everyday think that's not good enough?
A few years before my birth in the late 70s my dad hat a 1750 GTV. He replaced it with a 1st gen. 1750 Spider. A few days after my birth he picked my mother and me up from the hospital and brought us home in it, me lying in a cradle on the back bench. Of course seat belts were optional back then and cars either did not have them or people did not use them. But that was the day, Mom decided, that Dad had to get rid of his Alfa Spider and buy a car where kids could sit properly. He sticked to the philosophy though and replaced his 1750 Spider with a first generation 1750 Alfetta. That, too, was an incredibly pretty little saloon (with quite some rust issues). I have not seen one in decades (probably the rust), there are so few of them around that even English Wikipedia has a picture of a 1st gen. car. (Wikipedia Germany has one though).
Don't kick yourself over it. I love Italian cars to bits. I've owned a few, among them a 105. I did enjoy having the cars.....but the biggest joy was to get rid of them again 😋
@@thefreedomguyuk Modern Alfas are quite similar to the others (with a more precise road handling); the old ones simply were racing cars drop in sedan coupè spider bodies: naturally you will have to warm up the engines (not like my father when he used the Giulia as if it were his old Opel) and do the right maintenance a good mechanic, and the Alfa did not betray you
Just watched this with my old man. He had various 105s when they were new or up to 3 years old and loved them. In the 90s he then owned a couple of supposed restored cars and was so disappointed in them but wasn't sure if it was just the nostalgia effect. With research we came to the conclusion that so many repo parts for 105s that were used in the 80s/90s were substandard and not to factory spec, mainly talking about suspension/steering parts. As you say Alfaholics plus Ian Ellis and several other specialists realised this and began taking the matter in their own hands and have produced cars far superior to the originals. My point is that a tired original or one using substandard replacement parts will give a negative experience as you had and sadly that seems to be the case with many of these cars that were tarted up in the 80s and 90s.
I had a 74 GTV in Seattle. Zero rust, beautiful car. I loved it but it was rear ended by a Ford Explorer. Crushed the rear subframe. I was crushed as well. 😢 They couldn’t get the parts to fix it so it was scrapped.
More than a few years ago, I had a 4-door Alfa Alfetta which followed a SAAB 900 turbo. The Alfa was pretty much as fast with a glorious engine but a penny store rusty body. If I could have built a kit car around that engine it would have been fantastic. But now I have a family and a Santa Fe. Oh, the joy...
@@Number27 Good car, terrible dealership. At least my wife has a Civic Type-R to blow away the cobwebs. I enjoy your channels, reminds me of the struggles repairing my TR7, SAAB, SD1s, Dolomite & Smart Roadster Brabus, not to mention my friend's X1/9 and Renault 19 16v - how long can you stay upside down in the footwell before you feel faint? :-)
The first one must have had some sort of problem. Also an original one that’s not upgraded should feel nimble comfortable and direct, bit light tail but quite balanced
Alfa.. has to be red lol. That's the inner toddler bias in me. I remember seeing this car in red in Paris when I was 3 years old and that it blew my mind.
Well, I agree but also disagree ... I bought my first one in 1984 and saved it from the junkyard; the car had been repainted in a beech-amaranth colour; suddenly I repainted in red. After 30 years I have decided to restore the car but also to bring it back to its original silver color. I'm happy with this and I think "always red" is a bit banal
Geat video thanks, with some nice technical description pertaining to driving feel, feedback and handling. Lovely car. Huzzah Alfaholics, they are the bomb, well done the Banks Bros!!
A friend who owned a Lamorghini Espada got an offer he could not refuse. He replaced it with a close to perfect GTV 1750 and he never regretted selling the Lambo and buying the Alfa. I think I will never be able to own one of these. When I was a teenager they were to expensive for me. And with the raise of value they are still out of my financial range. My Dad bought a white 1967 Duetto in the Seventies. As he had to restore it anyway he painted it red. In the Seventies that was the obvious color of joice. He still owns the car to this day.
that why i removed the alfa romeo gearbox, and replaced it with a w/c t5 grearbox... short shift kit, on the t5 gearbox........no slop. just perfect engagement
So, I know its going to irk' some; but I owned amongst others a beautiful Alfa GTV - changed to Tesla Models S (Performance-version). Have to say - I loved the Alfa - I am AMAZED on a daily basis of the Tesla. Enuff' said.
I have driven most of 105/115 coupe models, from GT1300Junior to 2000GTV, and GTA1300Junior (with a short 67.5mm stroke compared to 75mm on regular 1300). If you have never experienced 105 chassis with the steering wheel on the left side, you are seriously missing out on the true driving pleasure of the 105/115 models. The g.d. (guida a destra = steering wheel on the right side) 105 cars are, dare I say it, compromised in terms of driving experience at their best.
Great vídeo. From the outside the car looks like it hasn't got the Alfaholics Geometry kit installed. If you have a chance to drive one with geometry kit installed, you won't believe the difference! They become a weapon in roadholding! I agree with your opinion in the car spec. Maintaining the interiors original give it more of a period feel. Something that seems lost on the Alfaholics builds. Anyway, you you want to try out a geometry kit fitted old looking Alfa, come to Portugal and I'll let you have a go!
Looks like you, me and Harry M have a passion for the same stretch of road. Have be ragging that same tarmac for many years on fast bikes and Sports cars. Hoping UA-cam exposure doesn’t create a new evo triangle with all its baggage.
I owned a 2002ti years ago & it was very unimpressive until I replaced & upgraded the suspension end to end. Your 308 will be similarly transformed .. you need to do her justice ...
Ross Moultrie... Was 2002 ti the model with the double Solex 2 barrel side draft? I think so. Bought one off a American GI in Tuson Arizona in 1978. Very neat car except for the handling. Eventually sold it in Denver Co.....but no one knew what it was ! People just did not know that model. Pity. Pearls before swine. Lol.
Number 27 I once had the loan of a 308 GTS for a weekend. It was in good order, and was an utter delight on flowing country roads. Persevere with yours, and I anticipate stories of your own utter delight in your future.
One of the most beautiful small cars ever , in my opinion. Such balanced lines. My best friend had a 1750 GTV, back in the 70s. 5 speed gearbox too...very unusual and exotic in those times.
correct but never a gt junior with parts from the gt, or in the manual GT2000veloce, with 5 gear manual box, there is the GTA but no one talks about the best alfa rally car from the early to mid 70´s
Alfa Romeo 🍀
That and discs brakes front and back. They certainly did not cut corners…
I first dove a 1750 when I lived in South Africa and just simply loved it and that was the car that got me liking Alfas.. Twice had the opportunity to buy a 308 and cried shy on both occasions frightened at the running costs. I now own an 916GTV 3.0 V6 so can't complain. Love the channel !!
My 1975 1600 GTJ felt underpowered, I later had the engine replaced for a 2000 that came out of an Alfetta GTV. My father sawed off a piece of the engine block to make the carburettors fit. After some proper tuning the car produced 128 BPH at rear axle. Approaching the 200km/h top speed I would literally hold myself to the steering wheel. It was pure joy to drive. smelling the heated oil, hear the air intake and the beautiful exhaust note (minimal muffler) and feeling part of the drivetrain that ran front to back. A very desirable move up would be one of the Alfaholics creations. Thanks for sharing !
That Alfa sounds very nice. I would drive that all day.
I always believed the 1750 GTV was based on the 2600 sprint of the 60s just scaled down, it was my first time in an Alfa my manager Mr Alto in Burlington Tavern Swansea had one n I had a Ford Zodiac both strait 6 engines mine 2553cc I was happy with my Ford very happy in Fact till he gave me a ride in his Afla n round twisting country roads it was in a different animal it was like a dog n a cheetah n mine wasn't the cheetah i thought it was loved Aflas ever since But never had one drove few n I loved the Alfasud sprint it was brilliant round corners with an amazing sound another great video mate thanks
I was in Corfu, Hellas in 1972, and I was so impressed with the this car. In my estimation, I would prefer it over a similar year Ferrari.
For equal money, I'd certainly choose the Alfa over the Influenzo. The 1750 is the best of the 105s, and looks fantastic in any color. Great designs always do. Granted the wherewithal, there are few cars on planet earth that I would choose over this particular Alfa. And I do not like 4cyl engines, as a rule (high-RPM race engines are different). Alfa Romeo fours are an extremely rare exception. I love its old-school purity, it sounds wonderful, I love the exterior, I love the interior, it's the perfect size for a proper sports coupe... Everything is just right. Lovely thing. Kudos to the owner.
We were in the small convoy of Porsches, in Hubby's white 3.2 Carrera seen at 4:24... our first thought: "Wow! Look at that lovely Alfa! Going for it as well!" Small world, Jack :o)
Wow cool!!
Second series: one of the most beautiful dashboard ever.
It seems came out from a Swiss watch factory!
Ah yes, how lovely is a well sorted 105 Series Alfa Romeo? Very!
And that twin cam, Italian 4 cylinder tone...fantastic.
Great vid, thanks for posting.
I saw a red 1750gt driving in my city a few days ago and now I’m obsessed with them. 100% a drew car now
A gf back in school inherited her grandma’s Le Mans blue 2000 GTV. It was awesome. Sunroof and AC. Momo wheels. Spectacular car
You mean "Azurro Le Mans" ?
I have had a 2000 GTV that colour too back in 1974! Unforgetable times and car!
Totally in love with Alfas of that era, even the little Fulvia. Alfaholics do some amazing stuff too. I better go buy more lottery tickets I suppose.
Fulvia is a Lancia ;) Nice car though
@@delahayenator Oops! I must have been high on hydrocarbons when I said that.
@@grayfoolId like to see a Lanciaholics version of it :)
Lovely car . Thanks for posting. Nothing like a properly sorted Alfa
I've no experience with them apart from a modern Gulia, but I have always loved the looks of the old Alfas. Thanks for this.
Had a 1969 ALFA spider with injected Spica 1750 that I bought new ad kept for over 40 years....with lots of mods it was a fantastic car and very fast and excellent handling. But it is the modern day mods that made it so amazing. I now have a ALFA 4C....with just a few simple mods it is so much faster than the old one and a gorgeous looking car. It is also very reliable and bullet proof on track. The point is....many cars can be greatly improved with a few mods and $$$. A friend has an ALFAHolics 190 and it is a beautiful and very fast car with excellent handling car but $200,000 US dollars.
Saw a red one out in Cheshire a couple of weeks ago. Stood out so much against the boring crowd of repmobiles. Assume was stock, not Alfaholics, but gorgeous.
Even a Mito stands out against repmobiles
Let’s face it, we all love the Magnum P.I. Ferrari....., it’s a classic Ferrari and it’s shape, design and colour are a great package..., it’s somewhat flawed in comparison as it is standard in the way of suspension, driveline etc, whereas this Alfa is a different kettle of fish, it’s an old car but with lots of modern upgrades, therefore incomparable apart from the fact that it’s Italian heritage.
I ADORE that Alfa, it’s a testament to its owner, but, if you did the same modernising on you Ferrari, who knows.
Let’s face it, ALL Italian cars are a symphony and a joy to behold, and long may they be.
I’ll bet the answer would be reversed for the 308 GTB4 though.
I remember show rooms when these were new. Made a great 'Second Car' and a weekend Club Star and Rally car. Power to weight and handling made a great package and at the time $2500, you couldn't go wrong.
Lovely package and condition of a 105 Alfa. My '71 white GTV 1750 is the stock unfettled version of what you drove and it's a time capsule and time machine of driving in that era, and with 49 years into it's life.
Love the Alfa, sounds great. I always thought these were very plain cars when I was young. Age and experience has opened my eyes. Nearly bought a GTV 2.5 V6 years ago... it was outside a farm in Cheshire. Opened the door.. it sank about 3 inches... noting to worry about mate he said... it’ll be the pins...yeah bye. It sounded great though.
Don’t think you can fairly compare what is effectively a rebuilt highly tuned car worth £75k with your work in progress 308. As someone commented, sort the exhaust and suspension and maybe the brakes and you’ll have a gorgeous looking iconic Ferrari that’s goes down the road a lot better!!
Love the post!!
Interesting video. I had a 2000 GTV - paid £14k for it in 2012 . It had a Harvey Bailey suspension set up, a Hayward and Scott custom exhaust matched to Alfaholics manifolds. Everything else was standard and had 46,000 miles with full history. It handled beautifully and sounded absolutely glorious. It’s probably now worth £45k. I do however feel that modifying these cars with parts, especially those that mean it cannot be returned to its original state, actually reduce the value. It was the value I place on originality that also influenced my suggestion that the 308 could be repainted to its original hue of white and for the exhaust to be returned to a single outlet system with improved (but reversible) modification to the induction.
This white Alfa is nice on the face of it, however for me it’s not worth £70k. A pristine original example with fewer miles would be less than this. Each to their own though and hope he finds a buyer who will continue taking care of it
Thanks Corran, I’m a believer in sympathetic improvements.. but understand the importance of originality for others!
my 72 GT 2000 veloce it´s all original and drives and turns perfect, no need for improvements, only the Gta ,the rally car was improved along the years ,and was a infernal machine along with a escort RS 2000 mkII body ,both my rally cars when younger
A common fault with the steering is for the steering box to come partially-adrift and twist as the steering wheel is turned. If your Alfa's steering is unintuitive, it's a good place to look.
The 1750 is usually shod with 165 tyres. Fit 185 tyres and you'll have phenomenal grip, but close-turning at parking speed requires big muscles.
I loved my GTV 1600. My wife and I drove it everywhere around Italy. I still have a picture of me with my car on the wall of Luca. Loved the green with brown interior. I left it with a friend in Italy that I thought could drive the car. His father has a couple of 😅sport cars. Came a year later and found he loss control and put it into a pole at 135 mph. He was not hurt. My Alfa was special to me. I build a very good roll cage and increase the performance. I drove it in local road rally’s. My Alfa could travel all day long above 100mph with no problems. We drove from Pisa to Aviano in 2 1/2 hours, a distance of 242 miles. I really loved my Alfa, no BMW 2002 or 911 every beat it.
I bought a mate’s 1750 Berlina having previously owned two Mini Cooper S’s.
It had been owned by a friend who was restoring its body when he bought a Dino.
The Berlina was more or less the same as your 105 GT and I can’t believe your disappointment with its steering and handling.
It was a joyous car in every way. It truly was an extension of your fingers and toes.
I think you must have owned a tired example as you suggest. Will never forget that drive from Sydney to the snow in Perisher in it.
I had it resprayed only to find the dreaded rust had not been entirely cut out and upgraded to a 1750 Alfetta. It was similarly joyous but perhaps lacked that utterly direct steering feel and connection with the road of the Berlina due to the different steering and gearbox being in the rear.
The 105 for its time was a sheer wonder. You clearly had owned a badly maintained example.
The Alfetta was upgraded to a Giulietta 2L due to rust which we owned from new for 24 years (rust free). More balanced but not quite as tactile as the Berlina.
Would adore an Alfaholics 105.
That engine note is sublime!
so happy you finally enjoyed a 105. Much the same as you I sold my well sorted 2000GTV over ten years ago and regretted it ever since. My car in splendid Verde Pino (1974) was a bit of a pig to drive when I first bought it, but over the years we adjusted the suspension bit by bit, upgraded to electronic ignition, threw out the heavy factory air-conditioner compressor and replaced with a modern light weight Japanese one (aircon is a must in the Aussie climate) all in all it run and handled like a gem when I sold it. I also owned a 105 GTC and a 105 Quatro Route Zagato which both are very desirable, but by far my 2000GTV was the most fun and I did a lot of club racing and rallies on difficult Australian tracks and road in it and ten years after selling it still miss it. I now got a modern Giulia and a modern Giulietta, nice cars but not the spirit of a well sorted 105
The 1750 GTV is a lovely car. I love it. I remember that video of your “old friend”...the red GTV
Yes.. glad I’ve finally driven a good one!
Beautiful. Nice to be in touch with the speed and feel and feedback. I want a Lancia Fulvia.
I’d love a Fulvia too!
Fulvia was my dream! But, imho, rear wheel traction make Alfa more fun than Lancia. Two great cars!
Love that you're now using the same strip of roller-coaster road to play with cars as Harry's Garage!
Adam Engberg - was thinking those roads looked familiar!
Alfa, absolutely brilliant, what an amazing car and what a horrible day in the office for you, 100% jealous. Keep up the good work
Cheers Ross!
What an ace video. I wish they were longer
The Alfa is gorgeous, way up high on my wish list , just a pity they are so pricey
Deffo the best motoring you tuber out there 👍👍
Well, they're pricey but they're also a cashier's check.
Among the most requested in the world by collectors, their value always rises and you sell them very easily (if well preserved).
Had the 2.0 gtv ,wandered all over the road ,all down to worn bushes, made a helluva difference just with that alone
The solution is to get some suspension work done on the 308 so it handles as well as the Alfa, and you can keep the extra £30k+ in your pocket.
.. then we would also have an ‘apples for apples’ comparison. I think we need to see the 308 on decent suspension & tyres to be able to objectively compare. 308 is waay more pretty than the 105. I mean they are nice, but seriously .....
Ferrari 308 much nicer
@@watchfan6180 a lot of car people would rather the full package alfaholics 105 series over pretty much any 308.
@@watchfan6180 It's a different type of car though ,and was a lot more expensive when new
nah the 308 never handled better... Harry said even the Esprit handled better than the 308.
I will always have a special place in my heart and memories for Alfa 105s My Dad had a couple and a few Guilias. They were 20 year old cars when I was a child but I felt so proud and a little like I was in a Ferrari (in Australia) whenever I was driven in any of them.
I remember my first car Fiat Ritmo Abarth 130TC , I know different era but when you open that hood and that engine very similar and very happy engine 😁
I've had several 1750's, fantastic cars
don cherry What money ?
don cherry I wasn’t buying and selling them to make money . They were just cars I’ve had over the years.
don cherry loads over the years , currently an S1 esprit , 1982 widebody 911 , e90 m3 and a 190e which I’m fitting an s65 v8 into 😊. You ?
@don cherry It's a 77 and currently being painted....if you look on instagram my name is omegaman911 :-) Actually the E90 M3 is one of the best cars I have ever owned.
don cherry ah yeah my brother had an e39 M5, great car and fairly cheap these days . 540 with a Dinan kit must have been nice , I’ve always liked the E38 740’s so nice to drive . Yeah there are Merc pics on there ....it’s work in progress .,
That looked ace - I worked with a NZ guy who used to race one. It sounded fantastic, unfortunately I never got a ride in it.
I had the exact same one you’re driving in.. but metallic bronze. Dual webers. I was stationed in Augsburg and drove to Italy a lot on leave.
I completely rebuilt the engine and boy it just drove like crazy.
Loved it
Nice surprise this, glad you like the car, I’m a few years into my restomod journey with a GT 1600 in Le Mans Blue, mildly upgraded in a few areas. They certainly are lively and feelsome cars to drive and I think part of that is how small and easy to place they are on the road.
The 105 is one of my top 5 cars I would want to own
Really look forward to your videos dropping and have never been disappointed. You’ll be on 100k subscribers by the end of the year if there is any justice. Absolutely love the Influenza series especially 👍🏽
Very kind thanks Simod!
Jack...new to youre' videos. Really done with class and dignity. Thanks so much.
I love these alfaholics cars ,absolutely beautiful
4:22 Anyone else spotted he passed four Porsche's in a row, including a 911 (930)
I think the Martini’d car was a Cayman 🤔
Did indeed..
The problem with Porsches.
There's just to bloody many of them.
I spotted that too
Obviously a good bit of road!
god this makes me miss my 1750.....if i could have one as a second car it would be in my garage now.
I am sorry to say I would prefer the Alfa
No need to be 'sorry' when you're correct!
A well sorted Alfa would be my choice as well.
To me the alfa is beautiful and unique. I love it from every angle
The way it growls, stunning car...
Oh dear! I had a white 1750 GTV in the early 70s and this brought back such wonderful memories, especially the interior shots.
It certainly is pretty and sounds wonderful! Glad you had so much fun with it.
What a wonderful car. Stunning looks but I still favour the Ferrari design. 308 was my dream car as a kid and what brought me to your (excellent) channel .
Wish I knew more about motors rather than meddling with vintage watches.
Thanks for this one. Alfas always seem to have 'soul'.
Lovely timed downshift at 4.40 especially in a unfamiliar car, proper ''mechanical sympathy''. Nicely driven.
Awesome comment, i loved doing that in my Porsche....just sold it....bought a Brera....No regrets what so ever....what is Alfa doing to me?
The GTVs are great cars, but to be fair, the twinspark motor is a different beast than the standard 1750.
The aftermarket seats probably helped with the suspension. I have a '74 Spider with a 2L SPICA that I'm restoring mainly because the GTV in USA is more than I can afford. I had my monumental acceleration for over a decade with my '05 Cadillac CTS-V.
What a Cranky little Alfa . The Wheels looks fabulous on it , and probably contribute a lot to the Handling sharpness . Beautiful 105 GTV .
We transferred an entire 72 veloce including the engine, suspension, diff and even the pedals into my dad's 67 dueto. Ditched the ignition points for a piranha led. He even moved the battery to the trunk. Dad picked up factory racing cams in italy. That car would drive at 70 mph like it was only doing 30 mph.
If I had to choose... I'd definitely choose both. "Better?", We know is not a fair question. Both beautiful cars. Great vid. Thanks a mil.
Thank you Thomas!
Yeah, you know you’re preaching to the choir on this one...👍🏻
105 series next for me after the 916 Zoe spider has had a summer ...
Way back, I had a 79 US Sprint Veloce (hatchback - 2L - dual Weber carbs - no AC) and after college I needed some cash and sold it. The greatest mistake I ever made. The only thing I want now, I have done the rest, is to get another old school Alpha. Most fun car I ever had. I have had some great cars and have a few really, really nice ones still. To anyone reading this these are terrible and don't buy one. You need to leave one for me. Nice video mate~!
The 1750 is one of automotives finest hours across all vehicle classes and budgets.
Just proper sportscar engineering, fantastic design and serious craftsmanship executed into an absolute icon.
The alfa gtv is a great little car, you can hardly tell the differance between the 1750 and 2000, they are a classic to be driven.
they are world´s apart ,i have both but the GT veloce 2000(72) is bigger than the GT junior body (7 cars from 69 to 79, there was a revolution in my country and alfa sold the gt junior body till late 70´s with a plus ,the seller would ask wich dash ,tail lights ,front grill you wanted installed in your new GT junior ,now called it GTV ),larger and lower to the road ,one is super fast other is tinyer but fast with the 1750 engine ,the ones i have only have a small 1.3L engine dual cam shaft as the 2.0L engine of the GT veloce but due to it´s size becomes fast , when i first saw a new GTV i thought it was a mistake and refering to the GTA (rally car) that i also have one , i have several 70´s cars from alfa romeu , mercedes, bmw , also a two fiat´s cars with powerfull engines the 132(the same as the 1750 gt) and the 130 coupé with a 3.0L v6 engine,this last i don´t know if it´s the original engine, when restored in the 80´s they covered the already hard to see numbers of the engine, i only paid full price for my 72 alfa gt 2000 veloce(bought new) the others only paid for one mercedes what today is 1.000€ others were bellow the 500€´s ,some even were ofered by their original owners and one BMW 2002 tii turbo i trade it for a good pioneer cassette deck ,this in early 80´s, where i live no one wanted the Ti or Tii only the four carburator 2002 because no one knew how to fix or tune the injection system developed by BMW , the only thing i find strange is that in early 90´s a friend of mine asked me to drive the 2000 GT veloce and broke the front grill with only two headlights and only after 10 years a alfa-romeu club in ITALY found a new grill for my car but now they seem to rain from above
That Alfa is doing things to my man parts.....I just sold my Porsche and bought a Brera....getting away from the flash and into a mad car world iv'e never experienced before....i'm going down a rabbit hole...loving it.
😂😂
Fantastic car that.
Love Alfa's, particularly of that vintage.
A good 10 mins spent that Jack. Thanks.
Thank buddy and also for sticking with the channel!
God was in a Very good mood the day he said. " Let There Be Alfa ! " ............. And. There. Was *
As beautiful as the Alfa is, I'd still prefer the 308 - thanks for the video
I’d take the Alfa
Funny how one associates cars with personalities, 100 years ago at school my very charismatic geography teacher (climbed Mt Everest) had several of these 105 series Alfas
As a consequence I have always considered them to be very stylish
I've always liked these Alfas and also the Fiat dino the car I drive is a 2018 Kia rio 4dr sedan, 130 hp 6sd manuel weighing 2,650 lbs the handling is very sporting with very satisfying tourque and it also comes on @ 5 to 6000 rpm it does 80mph in 6th gear @ 3000 rpm very effortlessly but being 65 years of age I've not gone over just too many speed traps here in the U.S. to risk it oh yeah my rio ia also white keep em coming for all of us car guys
OMG.. I'm sitting here on a horrid rainy NZ winter's Sunday, thniking what 1 X decent Alfa could be doing in my life. Il earned to drive in my mum's Giulia Super, and this vid has catalysed a decision. I'm an aircooled Porsche guy, but just the engine tone of these things makes me shiver, and then there;s the chutzpah of the whole shootin'; match.
Another great video Jack. The GTV's have been on my radar for a while now and is still a possible replacement for my 1977 911.
Try one, be interesting to see what you think!
@@Number27 Funnily enough I am just starting to 'try' and write a sale advert for my 911. It's turning out to be more of a novel! :-/ I just need to find somebody who would let me have a go in such a lovely Alfa....
Alfa Romeo is like HEUER, great until 1985 when Fiat and Tag bought them. They had so much identity, legends!
True...😢
That's funny because I've owned three 147's, in a world of Golf's etc people look at my car and I get no end of compliments about how good it looks and the red leather seats always get a mention. Driving them feels special compared to other cars and people get a shock when they try to mix it up in tight turns, especially when I had Figaro, my rare 147 TS Sport which had a bad life before I got it but still whipped everything on the road in S bends and had 136,000 miles and was driven every day never broke down once but people who have "proper" Alfa's who don't even drive them everyday think that's not good enough?
A few years before my birth in the late 70s my dad hat a 1750 GTV. He replaced it with a 1st gen. 1750 Spider. A few days after my birth he picked my mother and me up from the hospital and brought us home in it, me lying in a cradle on the back bench.
Of course seat belts were optional back then and cars either did not have them or people did not use them. But that was the day, Mom decided, that Dad had to get rid of his Alfa Spider and buy a car where kids could sit properly. He sticked to the philosophy though and replaced his 1750 Spider with a first generation 1750 Alfetta.
That, too, was an incredibly pretty little saloon (with quite some rust issues). I have not seen one in decades (probably the rust), there are so few of them around that even English Wikipedia has a picture of a 1st gen. car. (Wikipedia Germany has one though).
6:59 The face where Car and Man become one....
Nope. 308 for me. It has a presence and just a beauty that makes it stand out! I had a 3.2 Alfa Brera. Beautiful car but so badly flawed.
Nearly bought a step front 15 years ago, wish I had now.
Don't kick yourself over it. I love Italian cars to bits. I've owned a few, among them a 105. I did enjoy having the cars.....but the biggest joy was to get rid of them again 😋
@@thefreedomguyuk
Modern Alfas are quite similar to the others (with a more precise road handling); the old ones simply were racing cars drop in sedan coupè spider bodies: naturally you will have to warm up the engines (not like my father when he used the Giulia as if it were his old Opel) and do the right maintenance a good mechanic, and the Alfa did not betray you
Just watched this with my old man. He had various 105s when they were new or up to 3 years old and loved them. In the 90s he then owned a couple of supposed restored cars and was so disappointed in them but wasn't sure if it was just the nostalgia effect. With research we came to the conclusion that so many repo parts for 105s that were used in the 80s/90s were substandard and not to factory spec, mainly talking about suspension/steering parts. As you say Alfaholics plus Ian Ellis and several other specialists realised this and began taking the matter in their own hands and have produced cars far superior to the originals. My point is that a tired original or one using substandard replacement parts will give a negative experience as you had and sadly that seems to be the case with many of these cars that were tarted up in the 80s and 90s.
Yes agree, thanks for watching!
You forgot the GT junior 1300
Great car
Looks a great bit of kit 👍🏻 Nice Porsche parade at 4:26 😎
I had a 74 GTV in Seattle. Zero rust, beautiful car. I loved it but it was rear ended by a Ford Explorer. Crushed the rear subframe.
I was crushed as well. 😢
They couldn’t get the parts to fix it so it was scrapped.
Good god that car goes well! 😳
Now that looked like you were really enjoying driving that car, well done keep the videos coming, 👍👌.
More than a few years ago, I had a 4-door Alfa Alfetta which followed a SAAB 900 turbo. The Alfa was pretty much as fast with a glorious engine but a penny store rusty body. If I could have built a kit car around that engine it would have been fantastic. But now I have a family and a Santa Fe. Oh, the joy...
Yes.. such a shame on the Alfetta... great car but terrible quality.. commiserations on the Santa Fe... but it’s actually a good car for the type!
@@Number27 Good car, terrible dealership. At least my wife has a Civic Type-R to blow away the cobwebs. I enjoy your channels, reminds me of the struggles repairing my TR7, SAAB, SD1s, Dolomite & Smart Roadster Brabus, not to mention my friend's X1/9 and Renault 19 16v - how long can you stay upside down in the footwell before you feel faint? :-)
The first one must have had some sort of problem. Also an original one that’s not upgraded should feel nimble comfortable and direct, bit light tail but quite balanced
Fantastic car, I've always wanted one of those.
They're my absolute favourite looking cars. I simply love the look of them. Good video by the way
Alfa.. has to be red lol. That's the inner toddler bias in me. I remember seeing this car in red in Paris when I was 3 years old and that it blew my mind.
Well, I agree but also disagree ...
I bought my first one in 1984 and saved it from the junkyard; the car had been repainted in a beech-amaranth colour; suddenly I repainted in red.
After 30 years I have decided to restore the car but also to bring it back to its original silver color.
I'm happy with this and I think "always red" is a bit banal
Geat video thanks, with some nice technical description pertaining to driving feel, feedback and handling. Lovely car. Huzzah Alfaholics, they are the bomb, well done the Banks Bros!!
Sorry to mention it in an Alfaholics upload, 4 911s of different flavours seemed to be enjoying themselves in the opposite direction.
Yeah I enjoyed that too
A friend who owned a Lamorghini Espada got an offer he could not refuse. He replaced it with a close to perfect GTV 1750 and he never regretted selling the Lambo and buying the Alfa.
I think I will never be able to own one of these. When I was a teenager they were to expensive for me. And with the raise of value they are still out of my financial range.
My Dad bought a white 1967 Duetto in the Seventies. As he had to restore it anyway he painted it red. In the Seventies that was the obvious color of joice. He still owns the car to this day.
that why i removed the alfa romeo gearbox, and replaced it with a w/c t5 grearbox... short shift kit, on the t5 gearbox........no slop. just perfect engagement
So, I know its going to irk' some; but I owned amongst others a beautiful Alfa GTV - changed to Tesla Models S (Performance-version). Have to say - I loved the Alfa - I am AMAZED on a daily basis of the Tesla. Enuff' said.
Another great video Jack. Objective, informative and enjoyable 👍🏻 Are you driving Harry Metcalfe’s route? I’m sure I recognise some of the scenery!
Others have pointed this out so think it might be? Thanks for watching Ben!
I have driven most of 105/115 coupe models, from GT1300Junior to 2000GTV, and GTA1300Junior (with a short 67.5mm stroke compared to 75mm on regular 1300). If you have never experienced 105 chassis with the steering wheel on the left side, you are seriously missing out on the true driving pleasure of the 105/115 models. The g.d. (guida a destra = steering wheel on the right side) 105 cars are, dare I say it, compromised in terms of driving experience at their best.
Nothing sounds as lovely as a pair of side draught carbs. Downdraft just doesn't have the growl.
With hindsight, the Alfa 105 series provides one of the best driving experiences.
Wish I'd bought one when they were cheap
Great vídeo. From the outside the car looks like it hasn't got the Alfaholics Geometry kit installed. If you have a chance to drive one with geometry kit installed, you won't believe the difference! They become a weapon in roadholding!
I agree with your opinion in the car spec. Maintaining the interiors original give it more of a period feel. Something that seems lost on the Alfaholics builds.
Anyway, you you want to try out a geometry kit fitted old looking Alfa, come to Portugal and I'll let you have a go!
Ha! Thanks for the offer!!
That is beautiful specimen of a 105 Alfa.
Looks like you, me and Harry M have a passion for the same stretch of road. Have be ragging that same tarmac for many years on fast bikes and Sports cars. Hoping UA-cam exposure doesn’t create a new evo triangle with all its baggage.
I owned a 2002ti years ago & it was very unimpressive until I replaced & upgraded the suspension end to end. Your 308 will be similarly transformed .. you need to do her justice ...
Yes plan to sort out the suspension too!!
Ross Moultrie... Was 2002 ti the model with the double Solex 2 barrel side draft? I think so. Bought one off a American GI in Tuson Arizona in 1978. Very neat car except for the handling. Eventually sold it in Denver Co.....but no one knew what it was ! People just did not know that model. Pity. Pearls before swine. Lol.
Lovely Jubbly, great enthusiasm.
Thank you my friend!
I would expect that a properly sorted 308 would make the Alfa feel like hard work, even a well-sorted one like that.
Don’t think a standard 308 would ever feel quite as good as this GTV handling wise on tight roads like this.. but perhaps a fettled one...
Number 27 I once had the loan of a 308 GTS for a weekend. It was in good order, and was an utter delight on flowing country roads. Persevere with yours, and I anticipate stories of your own utter delight in your future.
That sound don't have price 👍🏻