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ASUS Dual RTX 4070 OC Fan Noise, coil whine & Unboxing
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
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3:09 card measurements & Install to PC
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Coil Whine
1. Power supply Platinum rated PSU more likely to have whine also use use higher watt ratings. Please comment what PSU and rating.
NOTE: Big differences in price points might be greed; Asus isn't being greedy, this is indeed good value! Nvidia is involved in the higher cost.
2. There is a physical GPU switch OC mode and regular performance, system needs reboot for effect.
3. Easiest methods to reduce whine:
a. Set a "Max Frame Rate" this reduces fps spikes which reduces whine"
b. Set Max power limit a little lower to like 90% to get some noise reduction with very little fps change
Notes:
Platinum PSUs tend to have less power filtering to achieve their rating. Higher rated PSUs have larger Capacitors that should do a bit better for filtering larger loads to reduce whine.
12 pin power had melting issues on initial launch and low margin products aren't likely going to risk a connection that adds extra cost on a new not mature connection type.
My Asus Dual RTX 3060 Ti GDDR6X has 16 pin connection and coil whine is loud on full load but on low load its almost unheard unless i put my ear next to GPU.
"you get what you pay for. if you buy a cheap card" for a $600 card.
Nvidia charges the huge price so yes it is cheap by the standards of what is left after Nvidia takes their HUGE cut. This is one of the cheapest 4070 cards which means likely the cheapest components.
The problem with the prices is everyone keeps buying the overpriced cards and that tells Nvidia it's okay and AMD also increased their GPU prices as a result to make more profits.
I understand the point, but the logic of this is a bit off, if they were just charging a premium and overpricing everything with complete disregard for the unit cost then it would be impossible to know the relative quality of components used one way or another. Instead of just saying "likely the cheapest components" what are the actual differences between this card and a more expensive one components wise?
@@congareel and that is the problem. Many companies are doing just that, charging more just to make more.
The coil whine isn’t loud really so it’s fine to me
Did you try manli graphics card@@sparketech
Thank you for the coil whine benchmarking, please continue with it!
great content!
I had coil whine on my ASUS Dual RTX 4070 OC as well. Returned it.
Did anyone notice that when he switched to low coil wine mode, the gpu core frequency dropped from 2770 to 1680 ? That's around 33 percent of a drop, so yeah, a big performance hit.
I bought my son the Asus 4070 TUF Gaming OC and it’s got super low temps and is whisper quiet. Great card. I nearly bought the Asus DUAL and the coil whine wouldn’t have bothered him as he wears headphones.
I've bought about 2 days my Asus 4070 TUF Gaming OC and i am experiencing my first card with coil whine. When i am sit in my chair i do not hear nothing on the cabinet only if i put my ear close to it. But the point is that the coil whine somehow enters in my sound card and go to my headphones... Its so anoying.
i have a dual and i don't hear any coil whine. with or without headphones.
You should have gone for msi trio.It's even better than the one you got.I'm really enjoying it.
I just swapped an older GTX 980 to the RTX 4070 non OC card. Totally worth it! Smooth card, great for Adobe software stuff. If you're upgrading older hardware, the value is definitely there. If you are upgrading newer hardware, probably not worth it. My power supply is a Corsair RM850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply. Good power supply with plenty of headroom. The card has very cool temps around 36*C - 45*C. Not too noisy either.
I swaped from r290x to 3070ti and now to 4090.. 4070 is to slow card...it is not faster vs 3080ti. 4070ti is fast as 3090ti.
@@MakeSh00t Good for you. Thanks for letting us know you bought a card most can’t afford 😂
I have the same PSU, looking to upgrade from my 2070s.
Hey does it make any difference in preview and rendering? I'm using amd 590 gme right now and I'm upgrading to 4070 super. I don't know if it will make the timeline preview or exporting any faster.
So, just a remark. If you're doing a noise test (coil whine). People are going to up the volume. To then straight cut back to the mic is a bit of a bad idea.
Maybe give people time to lower the volume again with some annotations...
Thank you for your input. The idea I had was comparing the coil whine to the volume of my speech as a reference point.
On my most recent noise testing of my new Thermaltake Swafan review I took your advice about the annotations... Used a count down timer
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5:57 that move deserve a respect and thump's up.
Odpowiedź Wsparcia Technicznego
Szanowny Kliencie ASUS,
Uprzejmie informujemy, że prąd elektryczny płynący przez urządzenia elektryczne i elektroniczne powoduje wydawanie dźwięku o różnym natężeniu. Zjawisko to występuje najczęściej wtedy, gdy częstotliwość rezonansowa zwojów cewki jest zbliżona do częstotliwości rezonansowej układu elektronicznego. Bardzo często dotyczy cewek umieszczonych w kartach graficznych, płytach głównych, zasilaczach - nie jest to wada lecz cecha produktu
Thank you for your message, translated to English:
"Technical Support Response
Dear ASUS customer,
We kindly inform you that electric current flowing through electrical and electronic devices produces sounds of varying intensity. This phenomenon most often occurs when the resonant frequency of the coil turns is close to the resonant frequency of the electronic system. Very often it concerns coils placed in graphics cards, motherboards, power supplies - it is not a defect but a feature of the product"
This is a truthful response from Asus. Resonant frequency can be corrected but PC are not custom made with a certain PSU and motherboard and CPU in mind. To correct would require correcting after purchase and would require a more expensive solution with capacitors custom fit to the load with variable banks turned on and off with the load. Expensive? Yes, in a price sensitive environment like the PC it makes little sense.
Easiest way to reduce coil whine is to use Nvidia control panel lock a max FPS to reduce peaks. Under setting "Max Frame Rate"
Other easy method is to Reduce power limit by 8-10% should make a "Fair" difference with little change to performance.
I still use this GPU, and the fan noise is on the very silent side and runs cool
Tragedia, że Asus tak nisko upadł. Też miałem problem z tą kartą, ale zwróciłem do 14 dni.
Swoją drogą z AMD Radeon nigdy takich problemów nie miałem.
thats actually crazy because I had the 6750xt dual oc from asus a while back and it had the EXACT same coil whine issue. its funny seeing it pop up again on another asus oc card (maybe dual fan design is an issue too)
interestingly rnough when i went to return it the store rep said a bunch of people complained about the same thing and saw it on reddit as well (amd platform users also would have the gpu crash in games myself included).
long comment but i hope it helps someone out knowing that the coil whine may be a dual oc asus card pattern.
The issue is component use not how many fans or how large or small the card is. I should have made it more clear the 3 fan edition is the Asus higher end card that costs a fair bit more. In my 3rd year electrical training we discussed the matter of coil whine which can be completely stopped with sealing the coils without air gaps in a strong resin. I purchased some resin so I might in the next months or 2 rip the card apart and I got a thermal interface pad that works better than thermal paste that is meant to last for life; very expensive stuff.
better coils would mean higher cost and solve the issue. These Asus dual cards are the cheapest models which means cheapest components.
If this Asus cards are similar to the Founders edition the coils would be housed in solid cover shell 😳
@@sparketech ooo i see this is actually very helpful knowledge, didnt know at all about the resin and coil sealing or realize the pattern was being the cheaper production model. thank you for the insight
@@sparketech maybe I'm just unlucky but every GPU I owned have coil whine and now even my new Rx 6750xt Asus dual oc have it, for what I know is not an hardware problem but a normal behaviour of components when you get high FPS or use high wattage. Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm accepting this problem like monitor have screen bleeding problem GPU have coil whine problem.
@@Nicolo-ue9xu not all of my GPUs have had coil whine. But the higher the power the GPU the more common also lower cost parts and less power control phases also make coil whine more of a problem.
I have this. I have zero coil whine or fan noise. Perfect card. Always cold too!
Power supply power supply power supply makes all the difference... It is comments like yours and everyone else that helps me and everyone else know the problem... What PSU do you have and the rating? Bronze? Gold?
I pinned in comments what I have found.
My power supply is Platinum rated, despite being more expensive it is actually worse for coil whine.
@@sparketech i have no coil whine that i can tell. i have an EVGA SuperNOVA 850 P2, 80+ PLATINUM 850W
@@Stackali locked refresh rate or any specific settings? I have an EVGA Nova 850 as well but I have coil whine still when gaming.
@@Stackali Thank you for letting us know, anyone have the same EVGA P2 version PSU to verify no coil whine?
My current PSU is December 2023:
EVGA SuperNOVA 850 GM 123-GM-0850-X1 850W
All of the models I test are small form factor SFX(L) models. I Also tried the Corsair SF750 platinum, Corsair SF850L, Asus ROG Loki 850watt as well.
All of them have coil whine.
@@sparketechI’m getting the gpu in 2 days. I got a Corsair TX650. Let’s see how it’ll turn out, hopefully same as my current 3070 dual from asus
I bought the ASUS RTX 4070 super Dual (EVO) edition which is a great card but it got very hot under load, hotspot temps 100 degrees!
I just got the card today loaded the gpu fully. No coil whine like in your vid, but the standard sound of a card on heavy load. On the acceptable side for sure.
Got a corsair 650watt atx psu. R5 7600x and 1440p.
That's great about the no coil whine must be that TX model. Keep in mind 2 things, the amount of coil whine also changes game to game and increases based on frame rate. Maybe the TX models are superior to the RM models and the SF that are coil whine monsters.
I believe TX is made by Seasonic not Great Wall my like my SF or Asus Loki. I am using SFX but the Corsair RM models are full size and still whine badly. Anyone else with TX model PSUs no whine as well?
Edit: changed RX to the correct RM models
You are the first person to ever comment with a Corsair TX PSU. I have 2 power supply videos and the RM models are BAD for whine. Not one person has ever said they don't have whine with this card at that RM or SF Corsair PSU. TX all the way baby Lol 😆. Glad it is working well.
Edit: RX changed to correct RM models names
did u get a regular 4070 or 4070 super?
@@user-de9dg9rg9m Regular, the super didn't exist till very recently for the 4070.
@@user-de9dg9rg9m yep regular I recommend it. But ofc the super might be more worth now I’m unsure
the first time i heard the sound i thought some shit was broken. researched and figured its fine. It bothered me at first because it seemed so much louder than my case fans, but i came to learn i dont even hear it with my headphones on, though i do hear my case fans. prolly cause the sound is higher pitched. id say if you game with headphones on dont bother with this shit. cuz in my experience it only makes noise under load during which time my headphones will be on anyway.
I find it funny people are so worried about coil whine. I use servo motors all the time I'm used to it lol. I will not sacrifice the extra 2 to 6fps from this card over other dual fan 4070 supers over that. That's the difference of 60fps or not in some games.
If people want less coil whine the 4070ti Super 3 fan design is better. Some people do worry too much... People like me enjoy near total silence. This OC card isn't going to get you 2 to 6fps more in OC mode try 0.5 to maybe at best 1fpa more. It is only. 30hz overclock of core speed only.
@@sparketech no I'm not saying it gets you more then that. In talking about real world comparisons with the regular 4070 super dual OC 12gb edition. Not the evo either that one is worse. But in real world comparisons it got on average 2 to 6 fps more then any other dual fan gpu on the market from sites that test them. Again though not the evo model that has smaller fans aka 90s not 100s like the normal dual does. It also utilizes older fins they need to get rid of so they threw those on. Luckily none of that is on the none evo edition. I hate how sneaky asus is with that stuff. So anybody buying a dual should always get the none evo oc edition. Not the evo!
Really great review, especially the coil whine part is essential.
Have the same card and the coil whine is just such a deal breaker that I will have to return it because it drives me nuts while playing pretty much any AAA title.
I wonder if there is even a single 4070 without coil whine. I wanna try out the Gigabyte Windforce OC and the founders edition if they are better or worse and if maybe another PSU might help.
Thank you.
I might one day tear the card apart to stop the coil whine. I learned about such things when doing my year 3 electrical and how to solve the issue. It is high frequency vibration. The key is to make those wire coils solid and avoid any air gaps to stop the vibrations. I don't want to return my card after I already returned the RX6800 but if I would have known I'd of either tried the MSI RTX4070 GAMING X TRIO. I previously had the RTX3070 Gaming X Trio or I may have tried the ASUS TUF RTX4070. Either way it would have been a shot in the dark when not actually knowing.
PNY dual is pretty much the same as the FE board wise, should be quite
It looks like the coils that buzz are covered overtop with solid packaging. If it wasn't, the coil whine could be fixed. Coil whine is fixed with better components used in manufacturing.
This is odd. My Zotac Twin Edge 4070 (also a low profile card) doesn't generate any coil whine. What is ASUS excuse?
@@walterd7331 the excuse is called Asus went for lowest cost. Zotac here in Canada cost me $40 more which is about $28 USD more money compared to Asus Dual card. Cheaper means costs were cut means something is not the same quality somewhere on the Asus.
So instead of fixing their crappy coilwhine cards, they put a low coilwhine option in that lowers the power? Wtf?
there is no low coil whine option. he made that one custom.
How to check coil wine?
In 3dmark and FurMark on benchtable bc1 I can barely hear anything.
In my pinned comments I express things that can change your coil whine, like which PSU are you using? I used the guardians of the Galaxy game. If you have vsync or a weak CPU you'll also limit your fps and coil whine.
What brand model and wattage of PSU are you using? Many that have bad coil whine appear to be using Corsair.
Top review thank you for your honest
No Problem, purchased at own cost and I would rather lose affiliate sales being truthful than have anyone upset with their purchase. I use to get so mad with people selling stuff rather than being truthful. I'm here to change that "Not Bios" is a play on words "No T Bias", that is why the "T" is a different color 😁. Reviewing the Fractal Nano Torrent case review and build next. Sadly I lost part of my footage showing the fan noise :(. Also watch for the BeQuiet Silent winds 4 high speed, low speed, Light Wings reviewed and compared in a future video.
How loud do the fans get under intensive load for you? I have the same card and it gets kinda loud when playing TLOU for whatever reason. Not too loud, I can't hear it at all with headphones on at 50% volume but when I take my headphones off it sounds like a 30CM tabletop fan.
My fans make less noise than when I hold the fans. Not loud for me but I have lots of case air flow BUT I also do not run in OC mode. Keep in mind if your power supply is being pushed it can cause excessive heating which means the fans will spin much faster. Had a PSU on its way out before it died cause stupid high temps in my computer. something is wrong there with your system somewhere
Are u using the cable that only has 2 8 pins or the one with 3 heads?
The card has only 8 pins. If you are talking from PSU I used every cable option possible as I changed my PSU since this video to the Asus Loki and the Corsair SFX-L. No matter 12 or whatever to the PSU it all gets split to the same as the GPU. The problem is more so the power Supply not filtering the supply current very well. If you watch my Corsair PSU vs Asus Loki video I talk more about this.
ah so the cable itself doesnt matter@@sparkestudio
@@cyraxvisuals6203 the GPU pin put does matter. If the GPU was 12pin vs 8 pin the noise is reduced... Gainward has 12 pin GPU
I have a Asus Dual 4070 myself and run it on an open test bench and idk if it’s the Corsair PSU I have running it or what but I’ve noticed ZERO coil wine with my card in the 2 months I’ve had it.
Which model of Corsair PSU and which efficiency rating?
that's a big chunky boy! Looked smaller in pics.
It is tiny, like a 4 SSDs in a row stacked 6 high each and being 2 rows wide...
it's the size of 48 SSDs... Tiny 🤪😳.
In all seriousness the triple fan cards are even bigger and the 4090s are laughably huge. You can say GPUs have gotten out of hand compared to the old days... you need at least 2 hands to hold these chonky boys
I cant hear your coil wine over all my fans running so I think im good
Yep, you would be. I purposely made my system so silent there are no fans to be heard. If your system isn't silent, you are correct, you'd never notice anyways.
I have read that the RTX 4070 Founders Edition (by Nvidia) has less coil whine.
"No Coil Whine" mode shows you it's going to restrict power to 50%, it shows it right there in the software you used. Obviously that's going to drastically reduce the performance of the card. Makes more sense to just manually drop the power target to maybe 90 or 95% to reduce coil whine. Or reduce max FPS in windows global settings (nvidia control panel) to something reasonable, maybe 240fps or something.
Restrict power a bit for sure helps. The FPS locked to 240fps wouldn't help here whatsoever. My fps maxed around around 170fps if I remember correctly. But locking fps when at higher fps certainly helps. Removing fluctuating fps smooths the power draw and removes most coil whine in the process.
The last time I had coil whine noises was 20 years ago from some cheap very low end GPU. Just return it bro!
Power supply changes the amount of whine and the 4000 series has more whine than the older GPUs. I don't use OC mode, it has a bit more whine should of got a regular card
*I bought this card...*
After more research I decided it SHOULD be a good card. I bought it and have ZERO issues. I leave the fan switch to "Silent Mode" and haven't heard coil whine yet. My performance is barely below maximum (Silent Mode has the Power Draw at 90% by default but it doesn't drop the FPS by more than a few percent). Also, I cap the FPS below the average it can hit because NOISE matters most to me and my PC is pretty much SILENT most of the time. There's a HUGE difference in fan noise by capping a card to 80FPS if it's averaging 90FPS uncapped. (BTW, I have a global FPS cap set to 250FPS in NVidia Control Panel to avoid those high-FPS loading screens you get in games that are highly prone to coil whine. But again, no whine that I can hear at any time.) Anyway, I started God of War which can hit 120FPS average but I had capped to 60FPS because my room right now gets HOT. The GPU fans were not even spinning at first.
When you Cap FPS it prevents coil whine, good advice there. I would really like to know which Power supply you are using, bet it isn't Corsair?
What is the max temp & is coil whine really noticeable?
@@masterwayne9790 I managed to get the hot spot temp to about 68C, with an normal temp of only about 59C. Those temps are 100% case air flow dependent and room temp also makes a difference. Those temps was only in a room temp of 21C-22C Celsius. Coil Whine is influenced by the power supply used, so how bad it is depends on your power supply and how noticeable it is depends on your fan noise, my computer is nearly completely silent when gaming so for me it is 100% noticeable. For a computer with fairly loud fans you'll probably not notice.
Got one these cards installed last week but i forgot to peel those white stickers on the fan hubs is it okay to leave them?
if not stopping air flow and just sitting on top of the fan up, I don't see why it would have to be removed. It is simply to protect from scratches when shipped and being manufactured.
@@sparketech thank you.I was worried it would become a problem.Just to be clear you are talking about those protective films on top of the manufacturer logo on the fan hubs right?I'm just a bit overly worried i think
@@CheersMate- little stickers in the middle of the hug is simply protection from scratches. Can leave them on, I'd just remove them one day when you are bored lol
@@sparketech thank you for clearing things up.Great video btw
So what is the better choice? My case can only fit a dual fan GPU and i want to upgrade from my 5800Xt pulse
Most new cards are going to have coil whine.. higher power draw the more whine. The gainward cards with 12 Pins have less coil whine than these 8 power pin cards... OC mode off has less whine but limiting max frame rate helps, lowering power limits a bit also helps.
Newer gpus all have coil whine it seems like. Anything below 3 fans is having a hard time cooling the gpu
This card does fine keeping cool but the new Ti Super versions with 2 fans are indeed running hot and loud. But the newer cards indeed have more coil whine. The 3 fan Ti Super version despite more power draw likely has less whine because the 8 pin connector is nearly maxed out. The 12 pin +4 adapters can do up to 600watts but melt at around 400watts power draw :p. The Ti Super is about 280Watts on the top end
is this issue persistent on even 4070s asus dual ?
Yes but the power supply used changes how much whine you have. The 4000 series especially OC versions are indeed worse than regular not overclocked. Voltage tweaking to lower Power draw of choosing negative power limit using software like MSI Afterburner also reduces coil whine
@@sparketech Thats a bad sign for anyone looking to buy this card. Do you suggest sticking with other brands?
@@vincent6210 many people found that cards that are 8 power pin, the founders edition gainward all have less whine. Power supply used in your computer is going to greatly change the amount of whine but ALL the cards have some whine unless you're lucky enough to have a really good Power supply unit. And by really good I don't simply mean expensive... Asus Loki has very high voltage ripple and a high ripple is going to make for higher whine.
@@vincent6210 I have the Asus Dual OC RTX 4070 Super and can confirm that it also has coil while, albeit not too bad. I only noticed it when playing Dead Space Remake. Not present in the other games I've played so far
I dont have any coil whine so far. Day 2. I have a shit psu thats prob not enough watts using a 10600k. But i get hiss or woosh for a sec somtimes but i think thats a fan thing. So far the card is great.
Coil whine is quite common with the 4000 series not just this card... BUT the power supply can indeed make a difference. May I ask which power supply you are using?
@@sparketech phanteks amp 650 using the supplied adapter from asus. I also have the oc version. On performance selector. Using default settings. I used oc settings(in gpu tweaker) and still no whine using 3d mark time spy or whatever the dx12 one is. Got a score of 17k
@@natel7382 I've never tried a Phanteks. I saw the lower user ratings so I got other options. Problem is nobody really tests all the options so until someone tests coil whine with a GPU nobody really knows. Is this full size ATI or SFX PSU size?
@@sparketech (PH-P650G_US01) is the model. I got it during the pandemic so I got what I could find. I read it's just a seasonic rebranded anyways. I haven't had any issues with it so far but I do need to upgrade it. I was going to do my cpu but say it was cheaper to get a 4070 s. So I got that. I also think coil whine is from people who have bad air flow in their cases and say you have too much air pushing not any pulling you get this weird air vortex in the case. I have 3 intakes 1 exhaust so I think that also doesn't help with noise. I will try to mess with the fan curve and see if it changes that whoosh. It's very sudden like whoosh and thats it. Seems to happen when loading a level. And it doesn't happen in the bench so idk.its strange.
You need to shut down and then switch. You can't just switch while on?
The software works in real time. But even if the switch didn't work in real time the software still does. Unless you are talking about something else. Even if I had to shut down it's the exact same regular clock rather than OC mode as the Asus software does in real time.
In case you expected to see the GPU switch make a real difference, it does not! It changes OC mode to default mode from OC:
OC speed difference, so ridiculously small 2550Mhz down to 2520Mhz and the memory speed is the same. 30Mhz difference which is exactly the same as the Asus software does.
@Not Bios Tiger is right, it's a bios switch. You need to restart the PC after switching it so it can read the different EPROM on boot and apply the settings associated with that particular bios. In most cases though with modern gpu's it only really changes the fan curve and target boost clock although with gpu boost it will clock higher than that target anyways.
@@Paulrus10 I pinned this in the comments that I know this situation BUT I had the word "might" which I removed now. Everyone is triggered by showing the switch do nothing?! when the software takes effect immediately. 30Mhz isn't going to make a difference with anything really.
@@Paulrus10 I'm going to solve the issue and remove the footage "Cause" people are getting upset over the video for that one and only reason of showing the switch.
100% know it is a different firmware. With the right tools either could be flashed. What I hadn't know is if it required a reboot or not like a PC bios would. Software is instant but yeah the firmware in card is not
y can undervolt . 0.975 mv 2790 clock + 1500 on memory consume from 110 to 160 watt loosing 2/3 fps and can undervolt more but for that i setting clock to 2700 (i have inno3d X3) low coil whine totally useless
Gainward phoenix 4070 should be coil whine free. Had this card, not even a slightest squeak. The cooling system is very quiet aswell, making is super low-noise GPU
You're not wrong.
That's a real 12 pin connector which is going to make for far less coil whine than a regular 8 pin power connection would even with the bad coil whine Corsair PSUs
There can still be some coil whine, go to 6:40 in this video:
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great review!!
Thank you 👍
I have encountered the same card twice, both exhibiting coil whine; however, it is worth noting that this issue is not consistent across all games. I have also attempted to rectify the situation by replacing the power supply unit (PSU), yet the coil whine persists with the Asus Dual OC 4070 graphics card.
Platinum efficiency PSUs are worse for coil whine also the same company such as Great Wall producing the power supply is clearly going to give the same results. Get a silver of bronze related and hear the coil whine drop
@@sparketechis 750w +80 gold
Good opttion for. It?
@@mr.skully8787 750watts is more than good for a card that is rated for 220watts. I even upgraded to Asus rog Loki 850watt, Corsair SL850L and even the EVGA 850watt Nova since this video and every single power supply still allows coil whine when gaming with this GPU. These PSU were Gold and platinum rated. None I tried were silver or bronze... Lower rated but not cheap PSU "might" have reduced coil whine.
@@mr.skully8787 750watts is more than good for a card that is rated for 220watts. I even upgraded to Asus rog Loki 850watt, Corsair SL850L and even the EVGA 850watt Nova since this video and every single power supply still allows coil whine when gaming with this GPU.
@@sparketech
Ok what do u think about
i5 13 400f rx7700xt
Id highly appreciate your feedback as im bout to buy it next tuesday
Empfehlen Sie diese Grafikkarte? befriedigt?
Passt in ein 550-V-Netzteil
Und der PCUV550P Plus?
Diese Grafikkarte ist in Ordnung, gut für den Preis. Ich würde für jede 4070-Grafikkarte ein 650-Watt-Netzteil oder besser empfehlen.
- Google translate English to German
Have this card and it runs cool and i cant hear it while playing. 23 ambient and runs 60c with no noise on performance
Which power supply are you using in your system? Trying to find out if this is more a power supply thing... also 8 pin power connectors are known to cause more coil whine than the versions like gainward that use a 12 pin power connector.
@@sparketech im using a seasonic 620w psu from 2018. Im not too sure about the model number. Its fully modular if that helps and im pretty sure its not one of those gold rated ones.
Anyway i dont have a problem with this card. It just perform as good as i would like.
@@justanobody4983 Thank you for the response. Seasonic makes their own PSUs and don't use a contractor.
Take it you mean it is likely lower than gold rated or could be gold at best?
I am actually down grading to gold rated.
Could you please tell us exactly how thick this card is in mm? Bc i saw a lot of conflicted numbers, thanks.
Bc i want to install this card on NZXT H210i and I’m wondering if it will be able to fit.
I'll try to get you a measurement when I am home from work in another 8 hours.
@@forrrrrrrsiiuuuuu8769 if you join my discord and ask I can send you a picture with a measuring tape showing the exact size. There won't be any conflicting information for sure
I have a 4070 super FE ,and it has that same coil whine.
Poopie... All of them have coil whine, some models can have a bit less. The Power supply in the computer makes a difference. I use EVGA now, better than Corsair PSUs for whine by far!
low coil whine lower my power: send it back
Will this coil wine removal by opening the card void my warranty?
How would you remove the coil whine by opening the card? These use solid state components. The would whine is going to change based on the power supply used for the computer. Also not OC vs OC mode on also makes a difference. Opening a GPU, manufacturers tend to void the warranty. They have a specific tightness tolerance for the heat sync mount to the GPU.
And about the KF2 version? I found it for 599€ do u think worth it? Same style dual fan
Have no clue what a KF2 is? Google search showed me a 4070Ti KFA2. A 4070 or whatever the Nvidia card is very similar, some have RGB some have more silent or louder fans. Brands like the KFA2 aren't exactly well known making it hard to comment. Gigabyte is having issues with cracking card PCBs at this time, the part that connects to the PCI-E slot hook is cracking on several cards. Normally Gigabyte tends to be good.
@@sparketech Sorry, yes, it is the KFA2 GeForce. This one is the cheaper one here.
Do you think the 4070 super founders edition would have less chance of coil whine?
not sure why my current build has whine but I'm hoping my new build wont
according to der8auer, yes. (nationality removed) That tests a lot of high end equipment and works with Thermal grizzly
@@sparkestudio Thanks for sharing, I have an asus oc in the mail but I heard Asus is notorious for coil whine.
@@smokeclouds8 without the OC mode there is less coil whine. If you want your cake and to eat it... Cause cake is yummy. Use something like MSI afterburner, there is a hidden setting to lower the voltages. Lower the voltages a bit and suddenly it is super improved. There are videos on how to do it, some videos are far better than some of how to do it fast and easily. Verses a ridiculously slow and painful one box at a time.
@@sparkestudio der 8auer is german Not russia!!!!! Wtf
@@sparkestudio and he is a owner of thermal grizzly in Berlin GERMANY Berlin is the Capital City of our wonderful Land
which 4070 would you recommend for quality and low noise?
Gainward... But simple solution for less whine is do not get overclocked models. The 4000 series in general have high coil whine.
I have a iBUYPWER Gaming Desktop PC - SlateMR 203i, Intel Core i5 11400F, GeForce GT 1030 2GB, 8GB DDR4 3000Memory, 480GB SSD, RGB, Windows 10 Home 64-Bit. Will this card work with my system? I am 12 and I don't know much about this. My mom is helping me.
Too many comments for me to answer that I am getting lost .. odds are this card is going to fry your system because it uses far more power than your PSU can put out. Get a good power supply and you should be good recommend 600watrs min PSU and 759watts to have some proper head room
@@sparketech Thank you. It sounds like I might need to get a lower graphics card. We don't have the skills to change the power supply. Or at least I don't think we do.
@@zac6748 changing a power supply is easy but takes a fair amount of time. The hardest part is removing each cable and replacing it with the new one from the new power supply. If you remove and replace cables one by one it should be very straightforward. A modular power supply is a cleaner look but harder for someone that doesn't really know computers... Modular means the cables are detached from the power supply.
I don't know what your ibuy power has for a PSU but brand names are own for putting just enough for something to work. The GTX1030 might only use 70watts of power the RTX4070 takes about 220watts. Huge difference. A lower watt rated power supply is more likely to suffer from coil whine and high temps.
*COIL WHINE video issue...*
1) He has the POWER TARGET set to 50% in the coil whine settings. You can change that. Perhaps try 90%. Or try to UNDERVOLT. Or both.
2) I modded my EVGA GTX1080 and that made my coil whine much WORSE. Doing so for an Asus RTX4070 may or may not make a difference to coil whine. BUT... I fixed my coil whine by moving the 2nd fan (not sitting directly over the GPU processor) connector to the MOTHERBOARD and then I used "FANCONTROL" software to control that Noctua fan based on the GPU (not CPU) temperature. My Noctua fans are pretty much silent when gaming with a carefully tweaked fan profile (I ramp up LATE so the fans still only spin at 40% max at 76degC, and then I ramp up sharply after that to address any worst-case... STOP running GPU fans higher than needed simply to keep GPU temps low. That helps performance by maybe 2% max or whatever and won't prolong the life of the card. If you're running at 1500RPM to hit 65degC then go educate yourself. Get it to something like 800RPM at 80degC or whatever is optimal for your GPU max temp)
Nice solution list. I have the noctua fans and that high air flow BeQuiet fans waiting in a box for the fan mod... I work 14 days and am actually at work for 12 hours each day. 8 more days to go and can start some mods. And might do a GPU tear down, I have some really nice HP pads that are life time lower temps than MX4 paste. Good suggestions btw, I prefer skipping the APPs when possible.wish it was like the Good old days where you could getting lower voltages into the GPU firmware. Lower voltages and power draw 100% helps reduce coil whine. I previously was using MSI Afterburner with my 3070 to lower voltages.
can someone tell me what „low coil whine“ mode he is referring to??
Asus GPU Tweak III software. Download it from Asus, it literally has software and in the menu the option is "low coil whine"
On the GPU there is also a tiny little switch. If you change it off OC mode and reboot for the other setting to take effect the whine is going to be slightly reduced. Basically the lower the performance the less the coil whine. If you get a really good power supply the whine can be reduced as well..by really good I mean really expensive like Bequiet Dark Power 13, Seasonic Prime XT, EVGA Supernova at the highest watt rating.
I wasn't able to hear any coil whine. Is there any?
I can hear tons of coil whine. Not sure if people are hearing the whine thinking it is fan noise. My computer is completely dead silent. Any sound you hear when I stopped the fan is coil whine.
Sooo I have a Corsair 850w power supply, and while I have heard that corsair PSU's cause the whine I'm hesistant to believe that is my problem, I have run a gtx 970, 3060ti, and 3090 all on this same psu with no coil whine....two of those cards have a higher power draw than the 4070 so I really don't think it's the power supply.
Awesome thanks for sharing your experience 👍. What I believe is causing more whine with this GPU is the 8 pin being pushed close to it's limit. If this was a 12 pin or a dual 6 pin the coil whine would likely be reduced. I just ordered a new Asus Loki SFX-L 850watt PSU which is going to serve to compare with my 750watt Corsair SFX 750W platinum.
@@sparketech the 4070 was the only card that used the 12v hpwr connection and also was the only one with coil whine, and yes I connected it to 2 different pci ports and did not use a daisy chain.
I have no clue whats going on but am i good with 850 wats gold psu
Yes 850watts gold is fine for this card. I have an EVGA SuperNOVA 850watt Gold PSU I am using... Still get coil whine mind you but it's manageable.
@@sparketech how dafuq y'all calculate PSU power???!!! RTX4070 not over 200 Watts power consumption! NEVER EVER MORE THAN 200! i7 14900k NEVER EVER more than 200 Watts! So how in the hell 200+200=850?! Are you all crazy or what's wrong with you?! 550 watts PSU is more than enough! Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez...............................
Afaik, this is the most basic model of ASUS, how does it compare to a gigabyte 4070 aorus master or the gaming oc? How far better are those cards!
The one guy commented that gigabyte seems to be better BUT right now is not the time to get that brand... UA-cam search "gigabyte GPU cracking" or Google search.
Every 4070 is within 3-5 frames of each other, so "better" isn't even relative when we're talking about framerates this high. You literally won't notice the difference, so just get the one that matches your price and aesthetic preferences. There's no point in paying $70 for 3-5 frames per second. The Dual was middle of the line regardless, so it's even less difference considering this is priced at the bottom of the stack outside FE. My Dual doesn't have coil whine for the record, or my case has enough sound dampening that I can't hear it regardless. These "problems" can be fixed by putting on headphones or using a box fan in your room.
@@ocha-time headphones isn't a fix, it is ignoring the issue but there are actual fixes / ways to improve. Better power management circuits in higher end products can help BUT more so dual 6 or dual 8 pin power connector or the new 12 pin is known to improve the coil whine. What PSU are you using? Coil whine is also from the PSU. I assume not a Corsair.
@@sparketech All you need to prevent that is a cheap gpu bracket.
@@zemekiel you are probably right 👍
Can you please make a video on size comparison on 3070 dual Vs 4070 dual
I only had the 3070 3 fan. Best I could hope for would be measurements online
Sadly I don't get parts for free, at best I get USB hubs for review. I can do comparison based on manufacturer measurements included with my fan mode video... Also going to compare fan noise and air flow between Be quiet models and Noctua fans also "might" do a tear down of the card. I purchased a very high quality thermal pad TIM that is meant to last longer than thermal paste
Does coil whine irritates the user and damages the card as well??
Unlikely to damage the card unless your power supply isn't good enough. Use the Q mode switch to reduce the coil whine and the fan noise when gaming makes the coil whine less obvious. The power supply can make a difference for coil whine. Sadly all power supplies themselves appear to have some coil whine but some have more than others and sometimes it is luck of the draw. This card likely would have little to no coil whine IF the card had Two 8 pin connectors (or 2 six pin) for power.
@@sparketech i have 5600x+about to buy 4070 on a antec hcg gold 750w. Hope this psu will suffice
COIL WHINE need not happen... Manufacturers could easily fix this issue. I can only assume it's to save money but how much do they really save? Every component has issues if you push it to its limit. There's a SPECIFICATION sheet that lays out all the parameters. I'm so sick of this nonsense to the point I'm not even upgrading. My GTX1080 rig runs the games I play quite well. I have better things to do with my money then spend $800 (CDN) for an RTX4070 only to end up annoyed by coil whine... and it would piss me off to no end. ANY noise to me is annoying.
Good decision, I bought a PNY 4070 and the coil whine is unbearable. I'll probably sell it at a loss and go back to my 1070. You pay almost $1000 for a card and it sounds like ass. I'll just play at low settings / find a new hobby LOL.
Buen video pero pudiste darle la vuelta al video para no andar volteando el teléfono
I know that it's a poor comparison but for some reason the packaging reminds me of opening a carton of eggs. Serves the purpose nothing fancy at all
It makes the packaging more fancy than sliding out of the box. But I'd agree with it having no real purpose, and the plastic overtop looks ugly.
@@sparketech yeah it's creative yet very economical. too bad this card had so much coil whine
I have coil whine too! I installed it today. Solutions?
Pinned in comments are a pile of solutions. The easier solution is to lower your fps OR get an old GPU lol. The newer GPUs have a higher switching speed and cause resonance.
I have been asking people to list their PSU because some do have more or less coil whine. The SF850L has a very high pitched whine when the computer is doing nothing. I have it sitting in a box, I am using the EVGA Supernova 850 SFX model. More silent when idle, I still get coil whine but another person with the P2 full size ATX claims no whine... Some people commented on their PSU in my review of the Asus ROG Loki 850w review.
@@sparketech i don't know if o have to give back to amazon For another 4070
@@luciofire83 it's going to be mostly all the same coil whine. Don't waste your time. If you're PSU isn't great that could also make things worse for you.
@@sparketech it's mine ua-cam.com/video/UIbYo8tGsho/v-deo.htmlsi=tee73t20muneXOVU
I recently got one of these and ended up returning it because one of the fans had a wobble to it when it was spinning.
I haven't seen that on cards I've had in the past and was wondering if you were seeing something similar (just in case I end up ordering the same card as a replacement).
I have not noticed such an issue with my card but my fans are facing down so only noise is a concern to me... Planning a Noctua or a BeQuiet fan mod in the coming weeks and a possible GPU tear down
@@sparketech Thanks, sounds like I made the right decision!
how big is the fans ?
the fans are 90mm. It is possible to replace these with a max size of 120mm which is the exact width of the card.
@@sparketech thanks
I have a asus 3060 phoenix 12 GB have also a coil whine problem 3dmark 2006 /03 pain killer black have a 75 mhz monitor just sync problem solf playing modern games no coil whine have another problem have black dots in Chrome brouwser use drivers not helping updates
Your motherboard if it is the AMD B650 can be an issue to the GPU as well... MSI especially... Otherwise black dots can also be a GPU core heat issue... Among many things... Overclocking, PBO performance boosting can do the same thing. Memory issue with the motherboard ram or even heat issues with a bad PSU.
@@sparketech have a i9 12900k asus prime Z690 p-d4 (bios 3001) 16GB g skill 3600 c19 also problems xmp profile not working games crasch psu 750 watt Be quiet straight power 11 pure base 600 tower be quiet! DARK ROCK PRO 4 | cooler
@@sparketech thanks for the info greetings from holland
@@hardstylboy Greetings from Canada
I do not believe your XMP isn't working. The issue is more to do with the fact that your Intel CPU can not handle above 3200Mhz without overclocking other voltage settings.
I discussed this in my discord chat with someone else that had an Intel system till I found there are 2 or 3 voltages that have to be boosted in regards to the CPU in order to have a stable system... Which caused a big stink on the internet about Intel voiding CPU warranty when running overclocked memory since it requires boosting voltages, temps and possibly reducing CPU life span.
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My ps5 coil wine pisses me off so im not dealing with this on my pc. imma go with the asus 4070 Tuf
Not sure if that'll be any better. The power supply used in your computer and the power connector on the GPU effects the coil whine. if you want reduced whine you are going to get a GPU with more than 8 pin connector, like a 12 pin option. Also the OC mode is going to have more coil whine, the more you saturate the power connector the worse it is.
Otherwise other solutions are locking down the max FPS. Lowing power draw to the GPU to name a few.
i tried this year 4 4070s, 1 7900xtx and one 4080 always the high end models expect 1 4070 low cheap ass every single one had coil whine
Some have less and some have more the Gainward card has a 12 pin connection... BUT technically the coil whine is from the power supply. No coil whine power supply no coil whine to the GPU. These platinum and gold rated power supplies have more whine than most bronze rated
@@sparketech my 3060ti which i sold had none should have kept it
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I'll have to join viva la dirt league to be Epic NPC man! Yeah! If you watched that channels older videos you'd get the reference, it's a catchy little jingle at the end of the older videos.
As an PS5 gamer i dont understand why 95FPS is bad ...lol
I'm also planning building new gaming PC with efficiency in mind that's why I like 4070.. What is the good CPU that is also power efficient with good thermals but wont bottleneck 4070? I like 5600 but I heard it bottlenecks the 4070 so I might settle on 7600 but it draws way lot power than 5600. My budget is only around those CPU range.
The 7800 gives the best performance to power draw being 8 cores. The 5700 is most efficient using the old B550 but be careful because there is zero upgrade path for B550.
The newer B650 boards are finally getting better bios support and you'd want to immediately update the bios. The B650 CPUs are about 15% faster for gaming. I didn't think the 7600 non X draws more power, I'll have to check this. The 7600x draws crazy power for little performance difference
Bottlenecks are overblown, the issue only pops its head up at 1080p, 1440p and 4k have less and less bottleneck issues....the higher resolution the less of a problem it is, that being said if you are gaming at 1080p then the 5600 is more than plenty unless you need your games to have 400fps instead of 200....in most scenarios cpu bottlenecks don't really matter too much unless you are pairing a 10-15 year old cpu with a brand new GPU.
@@Iwetbeds some people are all about pushing every frame. AMD CPUs are very bottle-necked by memory speeds. On the flip side actually having performance bottle necks can reduce coil whine.
@@sparketech The people that are all about pushing every frame are not running a ryzen 5600.
@@Iwetbeds Crazy that it was still really bad. the higher the resolution the lower the fps... people with coil whine usually find more whine at higher fps. The 5600 is a good value gaming CPU. I'll be testing with my new PSU in a week or 2 when it arrives
tf is that coil whine option? no coil whine at all should be basic lol
tf? Don't understand... Reduced coil whine with zero loss in performance would be dual power adapters or the new 12 pin. The issue is power through a single rail. The next issue that can be controlled at the user level is the Power supply, it appears platinum rated is more likely to have coil whine due to less power filtering causing more ripple into the GPU... which goes back to the GPU having more power connection reduces the whine. Oddly a cheaper power supply that is silver rated might actually be better at preventing coil whine all together.
Asus cards have horrible coul whine. I had to exchange their tuf for an MSI because of how horrible it is
The MSI RTX4070 has less coil whine? or a different model?
like you will ever notice that running vsync.. just another frame rate junky
I do about 80% of my computer time video editing which required GPU power. I work with 3 channels, one of which has 292,000 subscribers.
The 4000 series of Nvidia GPUs tend to be worse than before for coil whine especially modern power supplies... also fps wasn't exceeding my monitor refresh so the whine would of been the same :P.
I am right on the fence of getting that card myself, I plugged a 3050 into a 2009 intel cpu 3.33 4 core last year and was amazed at the performance boost in video games and video editing was crazy fast. this past sept I ordered a new 12400, MB, ram and 980 pro. and man did that wake the card up in video games and editing. THe 4070 sure is in the sweet spot.
@@sparketech
yahh well i found the oldest largest dig on the planet over 10 years ago.found out that the video encoder chip set is the same in all rtx 30series up to the 4070 where it has the new encoding chip. @@sparketech
I have tuf 4070 ti, coil whine is crazy on it, I’d never buy asus again
Thank you very much for letting us all know.
PS. What is your PSU? Sometimes the power supply can affect how much coil whine there is.
@@sparketech I have corsair RM1000X, I also tested it with be quiet 12 M 850W ATX 3.0 which has native 12VHWPR. Screeching coil whine. Here's how it sounds: ua-cam.com/users/shorts3hhKU7XbgKI
@ari EVGA 1000Watts Nova PSU gold is most certainly good enough to not be any sort of issue.
@ari switch your Mode switch on GPU to Q rather than P if you have a switch seems to help a bit. Underclocking isn't fun when having spent so much
every 4000 series has coilwhine so it doesnt matter which brand you buy. But PSU... again every brand can suffer from coilwhine but corsair is straight up bad in this department. I would recommend Seasonic or Asus (which is produced by seasonic)
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Asus has the worst coil whine. I traded my Asus tug 4090 for a gigabyte because it was unbearable
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