I have been a network tech for years and I couldn’t agree with you @battlenonsense, @TacticalBrit @Jgod , of corse you & more about the TR (t Rates) + the dilapidation of any type of synchronous control I’ve ever seen unlesss I Str8 unplug my rack. Then I Might be able to recreate their horrible issues thank you and esp Tactical Brit he is very educated certainly on CODs use of their OSI model and I wish the community as a whole would stand up instead of being stood on! #CoDplayersmatter $70 plus micro “Trashactions” Thank you for working for your fans 🎉!!! Ps. These “content creators “ make their living advocating for our $$$ and our time…. So like the vid, any vid ,all vids.
@@TheTacticalBrit Greedy bastards only money interest them. Unfair cheating game. Never played in such a game where creators do not respect players and themselves. Shame shame shame!!
its fraud, and way worse, they advertise a game based on precision aiming then go ahead and compromise everything about the game they advertise without informing the customers of what is being done, the game is about movement and aim but they completely render the gameplay mechanics they sell pointless, i even purchased an overpriced PC with the latest 4090 because of that lag thinking its an fps issue and it made no difference to this lag you feel when up against some players with aimassist who the game simply gives wins to the best part is they show you the replays of how they are doing fraud every time activision needs to reimburse everyone they sold to and i want activision to reimburse my 4090
Agree. None. Even if it cost them 250 million to upgrade… they’d get it back VERY quickly with how often games come out and how aggressive their bundles are marketed.
@@fubarexress6359 AND that is a MAJOR fix, and I am one that believes any MAJOR community-requested fix will bring back many players and keep the ones that are already playing for longer.
The desync is so bad in base multiplayer. Countless times I’ll be shooting half a mag into someone’s back before they turn around casually and kill me in two bullets. It’s absolutely infuriating.
They need to grow the spine to actually make warzone its own thing so they can build on it and make it stable instead of burning it down every single year to integrate the new game
They should make 1 last call of duty and just keep updating it make it one big game. That's how cod works in China as they have COD Online which is one game with constant updates.
@@meangreen99 Its not an individuals internet problem, its the games servers problem. Cod devs can’t even fix their own servers and lag and add unfair skilled based damage and eomm. Not to mention the horrible skill based matchmaking that everytime you get in a game it feels like you’re playing in a world championship tournament lobby. All of those arent new tho, its always the case with cod. Especially warzone.
@@ESF-EF The people making, maintaining the sever side of things probably have nothing to do with the game itself and vise versa. This has been an issue for a few games (Years) now and either they don't want to fix the issue or have no idea how to. I'm going to say they have no idea how to, I have worked in I.T and even though on a smaller scale network issues like these just stay crap and don't get touched or fixed because of money, time and just generally not giving a shit.
Bruh, BF4 had 60hz servers and it's fricking 11 years old. Even the disaster of a game that bf2042 was has 45hz, just unbelievable how cheap Activision is.
@tyruido1175 battlefield has been sounding better and better lol. Most of my friends left cod and went to 2042 since 2042 has fixed tons of issues it had. If cod continues getting worse and worse, I might just step back and play some battlefield lol
They did eventually. As an old gamer, I remember how bad the launch was for bf4. Its funny that it was also because EA used 20hz servers. Same exact thing was happening. It was a great game a year or so after...lol
We’ve had awful servers for the last 4 years. The problem is there is no alternative BR like WZ. Someone please make a good game so we can ditch this greedy and incompetent company.
I doubt people would actually ditch Warzone for a better game. The name of Call of Duty and Warzone is way too heavy to just leave behind. Some of course will, but I doubt it would be enough to be a slap in the face for Activision.
I am hoping for warzone to either get it together or for a great BR to come by and knock it outta the park. Theres alot out there but none have the warzone feel we all itch for
I think that's what Battlefield is aiming for next year with their new battle royale coming with the next BF game. Not that faith in Battlefield is high right now, but I'm hoping they get it right and we get both a new, better game to play, and the competition forces CoD to do better
A FAST human reacts around 150 milliseconds. Having 50 Ms of delay on top of 40-80ms of ping Means that you are ACTUALLY a COIN FLIP probability of dying every time.
That is exactly how this version of warzone feels, even down to the map. I don't like completely talking about this stuff, but yes, "a coin flip is this warzone."
There are times I simply can not win a gun fight. If I feel like I can't win I just quit. It usually takes about 2 or 3 minutes into a match for me to know how its going to go.
@@SpaceXForce I think it is just the opposite. I'm not a bad COD player. Sometimes I'm in the middle, sometimes second, sometimes first, rarely last.... In BO6 I always come last, but I move on to other CODs and become a decent player again. I just think the game sucks, but besides, all the sick tryhards, sweaters, and youtubers are all in that game, so it's not viable to play if you're a newbie, or a halfway decent or casual player like me.
Please continue to cover this topic. People don’t talk about it enough and it is beyond frustrating when I’ve improved my skill significantly but the game screws me over. Enter: “Get better” and “Skill issue” comments.
@@intellectic9155 you know what i gotta agree here, you're still playing this clown show of a game after all the shit integrations all the fake BS weapon balancing all the horrible server issues this game has been subjecting people to then you are the problem
Me and my buddies thought we were going crazy... getting totally smoked by people i would of destroyed last game. And don't even get me started on the sound... worst cod in history by far the worst warzone. Not even close.
@@brockbrawn1524 Tell me about it, and is it just me or whenever im in a gunfight with one person suddenly like 5 different people appear out of nowhere and all go for you, And not to mention how I die in the most ridiculous way for example im shooting this guy i didn't even hear at all with the shit audio, he's low, he goes behind a corner i rush for him slide round the corner prefire directly at him and he stands up and kills me....but I was shooting first right at him...??
They prob got cheap single ply toilet paper at their corporate offices so they save more $$ appease the investors. This is the problem with big corporations like these. The $ is only focus and the result is enshittification
-wildly inconsistent TTK -not being able to hear anything -feeling like i’m hauling a semi-truck on my back at all times -performance issues -bugged loadouts -bugged interactions (revives/zips/door/boxes) -THE LAAAAAAAG when does it ever end
@@channeljohnnyYT you nailed it on the head an the not being able to revive is insane in clutch moments /final circles players leave thinking u didn’t want to revive them n thts not the case
@@channeljohnnyYT you nailed it on the head an the not being able to revive is insane in clutch moments /final circles players leave thinking u didn’t want to revive them an thts not the case
the TTK is ridiculous.. 6 bullets and i'm dying ? 3 out of 10 bullets might one shot someone if you're lucky.. Every single nade thrown at you weirdly falls right at your feet every single time
As a guy who's been in IT for the last 22 years, 18 of which was in the military, if you buy servers that are not the same as the original servers and then load them with software and expect them to act the same, you're in a for rude awakening. If you buy NEW servers, you always sundown the old and keep replacing with the newer SAME models. It's like they fire and hire new IT people for each iteration and there's no turnover or documentation so they start from scratch...every. single. time. I can tell you that if I did half the shit job they do, I'd have been fired multiple times.
this is the best and clear explanation ive heard about desync and the bad servers of cod. my bf didnt believe me but even he said yeah i understand now what you mean.
If you do the math, a character in tac sprint can travel about .4 meters or almost 1.5 feet before the game updates their real position on 20 hz servers. That is a VERY large distance. Which is why you can be 1.5 feet past a corner but on the other players screen you are still perfectly visible. This is not including a 50ms ping which doubles that distance
Summary I guess is that since the game is so fast paced favors the shooter and you can't rely on damage feedback due to delay and you don't know opponents exact relative position to avoid getting instakilled constant movement is king, just move like a ADHD unpredictable bunny rabbit 24/7 for the whole resurgence match being mindful of cover and avoid standing still for too long and you're way more likely to stay alive than relying too much on visual and damage indicators. Personally I'm over Area99, most of the time there's not enough space to play strategically and game is not responsive enough for me to have a good time in constant CQC when gunfights feel random at times it really ruins the feedback loop and I'm not much into constantly sweating for 20min straight by moving around like a junkie
@ well yes in a a sense, they would only be able to travel a max of 7 m/s as opposed to a little over 8 m/s. So it would cut down that distance by 15% ish
This explains so much, really well put. I noticed it on launch of mp when dying to players who were facing the opposite direction or sideways. 20hz is insane in 2024.
Again, I need to commend you for the effort being done. You're testing, knowledge and research are all highly valuable to this community and I am praying someone on the dev team or whoever is capable of making a change is listening to you and these videos. Bravo Lachy! You are amazing
This game feels so inconsistent. I’ll be on a 10 man kill streak or bloodthirsty IN WARZONE and then I run into a terrible player I already killed and somehow he guns me down in less than a second when I didn’t miss a shot and most times shoot first. It’s like the game is capping how well I can actually do. It’s extremely frustrating and no clue how it’s this bad in 2024. Battle field 3 never had this problem. How does CALL OF DUTY in 2024 struggle this bad
Completelly agree. I got tired of sudden deaths, teleportation, the lag issues, etc... I used to enjoy warzone in MW3 but in BO6 was so annoyed that I ended up uninstalling
0:19 This is something I would regularly see on warzone. The only surprise is that it is being called out now and not always. Half the time my deathcams would show different things than what I saw from my point of view. My favorite is when the guy who kills me is flying across my screen, jumping left and right at full sprint speeds from the same location without actually running at all then the deathcam would show them pretty much standing still, moving slowly to one side. 10/10 game...
Dude, so glad I'm not wasting my money on this game. I personally always had issues with sync during regular WZ, probably due to my connection. I'd probably have broken a keyboard by now, if I had tried this game. Awesome job, benchmarking the servers and finding out this issue. Way more work than I'd put in. Truely a great service to your fellow players.
@@nolanjames7723come on dude why u acting dumb. He was talking about not wasting money on BO6. He just had issues in WZ before. Its really not that hard to understand if Im being honest😂
They can get their servers right, they choose not to. You're out of your mind if you think Microsoft/Activision/whoever is making the calls 1. can't figure out the technical update 2. can't afford the "upgrade"
they can...but why would they!? did you see how much shit they sell to stupid players...all those stupid operators, skins etc...now they sell f*c*in SOUND!!!
100% point blank period. I actually rage quit yesterday over this. And I'm not GREAT, but I feel like having a 2.3 k/d and facing most people in most games who are near a 1 k/d, but yet I'm getting deleted. and I just get tired of it feeling like it's taking me years to kill an enemy, yet I die is a milli-second.
@XoxoxoGaming you're not alone. I used to be an insane sniper in the recent MW3, and I had an actually high K/D. Now I have a K/D just above 1 in MP and it's "below average" in Warzone (even though I was insane on MW3 Rebirth). I was also good in Cold War too, and now I can't even compete.
@@Igotbored1824 you're not alone I average between 1.65 and 2.6 KD but I'm just over 1 KD in this current iteration. It makes me not want to play because I know I'm better than this yet i get deleted in 2 or 3 bullets it seems. Even when I have someone dead to rights.
@RealQuickComics I used to have a genuinely high K/D in ranked, I gotta check again but I know it was over 1.5. We'll see how drastic the change is when BO6 ranked comes out. On the bright side BO6 ranked skins look decent, and a lot better than MW3's.
Yup I usually have around a 2.0 -2.2KD. The desyncing is the biggest variable. But I've also noticed spawning will become more aggressive for a losing team in multiplayer rhat dudes will spawn directly behind me. Now top it off with SBMM.
It's crazy that the omnimovement has such an impact, where Advanced Warfare felt like it had much snappier movements, up, down, left, right with the boosting. But it never felt quite as bad as this does now.
Bro i had a fulled upgraded gp31 or gp91 cant remember. I put it on single shot and it took headshots in quick succession to unalive a dummy in the shooting range. A non upgraded pistol takes the same amount of headshots to unalive a dummy.......this is so pathetic. Warzone is destroyed by B06.
Bro me too I literally thought I was the only one. That’s craazy I literally noticed every single one of these problems and thought I was just absolute garbage lol
I've definitely experienced the issue shown in this video. One problem I have is that there are so many guns in this game yet so many of them feel completely useless
@@alexdaubon134 Because they killed recoil forever, mw2019 recoil was customisable for example, m4a1 with monolith suppressor,vlk scope,vertical grio and 50 mag is perfect for mw2019
Ive only been playing MP and I've experienced this loads. The dying whilst already around cover is more common... But also had a fair few insta deaths where the kill cam shows completely different view points
I’m experiencing this in multiplayer I can’t blink faster than I’ll get melted from an SMG at 100 m From a guy that I’m already shooting at prior to him shooting me it’s absolutely infuriating
Bro literally like 150 games later I just said fuck this game today when I literally hit every shot on a dude from behind. I broke his plates and hit like 5 shots after that and he literally turned around and absolutely melted me when I had full shields and no damage😐
The netcode was explained during MW2019 by cod developers and they admitted that they use predicative imagery for smoothness. This is their way of hiding lag on your screen for a fluid world experience. But this is the reason you get inconsistencies in hit reg reg and desync. This is why above average players have the worst experience in this game because they get into a lot of 50/50 gun fights but are no longer winning most of them like they would on an authentic netcode. The top 5% can still go on nuke streaks in SBMM lobbies because they can still get enough reaction and aim on players. But they'll still take damage when they shouldn't. This is why I quit cod. I prefer seeing og MW3 lag compensation. At least back then you could feel your character being dragged back in speed. Not this hidden desync in the background like it is now
Yeah. Playing Warzone feels like I’m walking knees deep in the mud. Multiplayer has its own issues but it’s not as bad as WZ, loading into the match is much faster so whenever I get a shit server that feels off I just quit and try again. What’s funny I think that CoD Mobile’s BR has much more consistent gameplay with less hitreg issues - keep in mind this is a mobile game with even faster movement 😂
Spot on dude. Thats also why I stopped playing seriously. Now its just a couple rounds with the boys here and there but I really dont enjoy it a bit. Its so frustrating.
This video is so good. We all agree Activision are a bunch of cheap bastards that don't really care about their playerbase... Why would they, every year they make a new game and sell millions of copies... I stopped playing. Only thing I can do as an individual.
dude just a little bit ago i got on to see if its improved at all (its just as shit as day one) and literally ran into a room and was dead before i even saw the other player and no it wasnt because he was hiding he just materialized out of thin air
I get packet loss CONSTANTLY and it always seems to spike and stutter as I'm in a gunfight with someone else. Its so bad, I've never seen this in a COD or any game. I have a 4090 in a good PC with gigabit internet. No problems in any game ever except this one. Tweaked every setting, nothing. Also experience what's shown here, its like I'm not seeing part of the fight and the game catches me up and I just die instantly. Something is very very wrong with their networking model and servers.
Turn gfx settings down, change vram target to 70%, texture streaming to minimal, and if you can, max out allocated texture cache. Maxing out allocated texture cache is optional (I believe). These changes mostly resolve my issues. I'm playing on med gfx. Do need to note that the servers are a steaming pile of dog shit still, so hit or miss, but this mostly solved my issues.
Same issue on multiplayer. 100+ fps and instant deaths. Only to see the kill cam show me on the enemy’s screen longer than what was on my end. It’s crazy
I experience these problems all the time. I will reiterate, ALL THE TIME. I have the best internet I can get in my area (Which is of exceptional quality). This is the best video I've seen pertaining to this topic.
@Dar1usz coping because you can't understand the comment above you nor can you add anything useful to the conversation. Waste of a comment. Keep gurgling Activision nuts.
lol 0:59 it’s registering headshots that are obviously body shots. I’ve been noticing super inconsistent damage registration to damage zones along with the desync issue
I remember D Sync was a concept I was made aware of during MW2019, in which it felt as though it was a once in a blue moon occurrence that didn’t necessarily undermine my experience. I first noticed the D Sync becoming more frequent with each new iteration of WZ on the original IWX version (Cold War, Caldera). A game that at point had some of the most consistent and gun play experiences I’d experienced had quickly left me feeling utter disbelief a majority of the time. At the time I rationalised that this observed drop in “performance” was the result of a very bloated integration and the spaghetti like nature of continual development changes. Unfortunately my optimism that this could all be resolved upon WZ 2.0 dropping was naive. It was this title in which the inaccuracy of player modelling and aiming direction became glaringly obvious a majority of the time. I think this may have been exasperated by the 3rd person “aim-lean” animation that Modern Warfare 2 introduced, but either way, it was extremely off putting. As we can all agree that things have grown considerably worse as further integrations have occurred, do you think this is actually the bi-product of a skilled labour shortage when it comes to game development? There have been many large scale public layoff since MW2019 went to market. Without having an intimate knowledge of the industry, it would appear as an observer that studios have a really difficult time executing a well refined and quality end product. Treyarc had the opportunity of a full 4 year development cycle for this game and yet these titles feel less and less polished than the titles that were released during the mid 2010’s. Yes, technology has progressed and some improvements have been made when considering fidelity and physics simulations BUT they haven’t necessarily resulted in an improved user experience which is after all, the sole purpose of a video game - an enjoyable experience. Some things to acknowledge would be the scope of platforms these games are developed for now how optimisation is impacted when attempting to achieve a similar experience across these mediums. Any way, love your videos and the detail you provide for the gaming community ❤
I remember in the last season of Modern Warfare 2019, Activision had a "We're Hiring" ad on the main menu, which made me wonder if they had ever done that before. It seemed a little desperate that a company of that size would put a link to a job application page right in one of their games. Was recruiting new talent that difficult? Back in 2020 I thought it may have had something to do with the pandemic, but that doesn't explain anything. Nonetheless, Bobby Kotick was explicit that he sold Activision-Blizzard to Microsoft due to increasing competitiveness, increasing technical complexity, increasing difficulty securing investment, and increasing difficulty with talent aquisition and retention. I think you're correct that the degradation in technical quality since MW2019 is likely a result of these factors cascading. We won't know what the effects of the Microsoft acquisition will be for another few years, but Kotick's thinking was that Microsoft would have the resources to aquire top talent and shepherd games like COD (with all the difficult engineering work needed) to continued success. We will see. I hope so. COD is a great franchise and the gaming industry wouldn't be the same without it.
I think the issue is the lag compensation they try and apply universally across each game session for 'balancing' reasons, I'm similar to you, not based in London but not far and I get 3-5ms ping to UK servers and 10-11 to Paris and Amsterdam, and the worst by far are the German Frankfurt servers (I get 17-19ms), I can play on Turkish servers at just under 30ms and get better hit reg than the German servers. Overall the tick rate, as you've mentioned because of the speed of movement really needs to be upped to 128 tick so that it captures all the movement and all the 'bullets' because as is it really doesn't, and the game seems to hugely favour people with higher pings than lower.
Even EA owned up to their mistakes and introduced higher frequency servers 😂 Warzone has the same issue BF4 had, it’s just more hidden under lag compensation mechanic.
@@OLoKo128 nothing will ever top the BF4 launch netcode fiasco. It was so bad that your character model could literally be behind a wall completely and your corpse would ragdoll out the other side of the wall from momentum.😂
It's not just Warzone. I only play 6v6 MP and it's atrocious there too. I have played every CoD and usually maintain a K.D. just under or even over 2.00, but in this game I am getting absolutely obliterated before I can even think of pulling the trigger. It's super frustrating because I'm used to a certain level of performance from myself in CoD but here I feel like it's out of my control.
It's you. My K/D is over 2. It would definitely be higher in older CODs but I'm still performing mostly the same. SBMM and EOMM are trash but most of you out there are on some serious cope over how good you _thought_ you were.
Same here. High KD maintained even as the SBMM/EOMM algo's get tighter and tighter, but BO6 is the first time switching to controller is a **must** for me, and it's still not enough to be competitive. Maybe one day I can have the same 150ms head start on opponents that a few streamers have.
The desync in MP is equally as bad for me especially when you combine it with insane SBMM so you don't know if you're have network related issues or actually being killed by someone much better than yourself.
Haven’t really had any of those “behind cover” deaths. However, I’ve noticed the people I’m playing aren’t that great so they’re missing a lot of bullets as I run away to cover. Once SBMM kicks in properly for me I’m sure I’ll notice it. My issues lay with the buggy interface, literally a few dozen issues I can think of from the top of my head.
I am actually over it. They fumbled it AGAIN. Haven’t bought last three games because of this. I will put it aside until it is in a playable state. If a better alternative comes along I think I might be gone for good this time…
. I got back in touch with an old friend recently and we havent gone back to playing WZ and we havent gotten annoyed once. F WZ and COD. At least i dont have to hear toxic little faggots who wouldnt use the same language irl 😂
I am here because a German UA-camr called Stylerz is reacting to you’re awesome Video! Thank you and keep up you’re amazing work… Greetings from Germany
I'm seriously so at the point(been at the point for years) why do they not just reactivate MW19 and Verdansk along with rebirth. Why are they still trying to evolve this game? Turn back on MW19 Verdansk, reactivate the store, and make Warzone start from there again. Give us a huge news drop that this is now their vision going forward. That was the greatest era of Warzone. It is the game we all fell in love with. Audio, visually, gunplay, movement. It checked all boxes. How could that not be the easiest and best route for development. Bring it all back.
Would love to see you highlight the fact that a large amount of players (me lol) cant even access the game - because we made a loadout the game cant read by putting on a weapon charm - leading to an infinite loading loop on launch
I've been seeing exactly this and I was making a video on it.. However now maybe I won't need to! ❤😂 nice video- nice info. I like what you explain at 2.50. Everyone listen up!!
I be saying the same thing!!! Aim doesn’t work like this especially not anymore it’s literally hackers in the new warzone which is expected but I didn’t think theyd ruin the game so fast I’ve also said this isn’t natural aim…
@@darealmephiles that’s definitely natural, going back and forth between both inputs and it’s like going from easy to expert mode, much easier, not even comparable
I've known about Warzone's low tickrate servers for a while now. The thing that blows my mind in regards to this situation, and likely will do the same for anyone not aware of this, is that BF4 (a game that launched in 2013) on console ran on 30hz servers. Granted, they didn't launch with those servers. DICE brought us 30hz servers on console some time after launch and I don't remember what the time-frame of that server update was as it's been 10 years, but my point still stands. Roughly 10 years ago, we had 30hz servers on a game that was running on the PS4 and launch Xbox One. The fact that Microsoft, after their acquisition of Activision, is either not giving us or not forcing Activision to give us servers on par with a 10 year old game is actually wild.
What’s up chat! This is sad… when battlefield came out with all the issues it had that community people stopped playing, asked for refunds etc. this community of warzone won’t do that. They won’t stop playing it.
It cause battle field literally came out broken u literally couldn't aim up or down accurately. And there was no way to fix it . people were forced to quit . You couldn't do anything as the movement sensitivity was all fucked no matter what u did .
@Matt-n3v Yep and to this day 2042 still has a multitude of problems and how it is right now is how it should've released back in 2021. I have no hope for the next battlefield at all.
Sucks to hear. I was kinda wanting to try out warzone for the first time, but if imma be learning in an environment that doesn’t show what’s really going on… then that sounds pretty balls lmao.
Warzone has been 20hz since OG Verdansk. It was bad back then. It's the reason why you could get the "super bullet" effect with fast firing guns like the Fennec (Vector), which is why the gun got nerfed multiple times despite it realistically being a very average gun in terms of raw DPS. Then it just continued to get worse with Cold War integration and the Mac-10, PPSh, and FFAR metas. And again with Vanguard integration. Their "solution" was to add an extra 50hp to player health so they don't die as quickly. It was a lazy fix.
Most of these issues have been a problem in call of duty for 20 years. Running around a corner and still receiving damage, Snipers shooting 1 foot behind the target and still getting a hit reg, player models not even looking in your direction yet on their screen they are looking right at you. All of these are staples in the cod franchise. Nothing new.
But thank you for making a video and pointing it out. The truth is. If Battlefield is making a BR and they include load-outs, and it plays smooth and isn't infested with bugs. We can all happily move over to a better BR than Warzone.
@@LawdawgOG Considering historical trends, expecting a Battlefield game to not be riddled with bugs (at least, for a decent while after launch) is some pretty high hopes. I'm with you on the concept but I'd also be fully expecting lots of failure at first
I really hate this warzone, they made sure to get that winner circle in the game to sell emotes but couldn’t bother to make a playable game. Everything seems to be so hard and slow. I don’t wanna move, don’t wanna shoot and don’t want to loot
The big issue with high tickrate servers for warzone is depending on what’s happening, even a really strong server might not be able to keep up with simulating 60hz for 100 players, and in particularly intense moments, lower end consumer internet connections might not support 60 updates a second. Granted, I’d like to see them go for 60hz sim/update rates, or even go with a dynamic sim/update rate the way sumn like pubg or fortnite did it, or whatever.
Well, there is some of this, and there is some delibirate damage differences between players. 12 headshot hitmarkers in a row, followed by 2 chest and 1 stomach shot with xm4 within 20m range and then enemy kills me first. Killcam looks what i expect, i only had 1 plate and rechallenge him. He Get cought offguard, he misses a lot of shot and he kills me. The difference is that i have peekers advantage, and the fact that i just deal lower damage. When i started to play warzone again i had fun. Due to me having this mindset: - I have boicoited cod for months, i will be rusty. - I have not played this version, it will feel and act wierd for me at start. - I know there is algorithms, but most likely they will take a little time to come back since i have been gone for so long. - I did not spend a single dollar on this game, it is what it is. Having that mindset I actually had fun playing. Zero care for zero effort. But there was no damage differences or hitdetection differences between me and enemy. Game felt great. But as expected they graduatly came back. Yes there is loads of desync and server unstability, but it also takes a lot from the servers to run all theese algorithms 24/7. Have you ever noticed the better you perform the more unstable the game will be? Thats because the better you perform the more active the algorithms are going to behave. I always laught when people claim this is impossible. To run such code on theese unstable servers. Well, clearly they have not read the riccochet patchnotes. Punnishing cheaters with «splash», «zero damage», «fake enemies», and «invisible enemies» live inside game sessions. How is that not live manipulation of engagements? They also clearly have not read all the patents on the matter which are listed as «in use» btw. I have been nerfed since vanguard got integrated into warzone. Its been heavy, 70% of engagements Are rigged to unplayable levels, on 13ping sessions. I dont see many other people running around and 70% of their throwing knives makes acrobatic moves in the air to avoid enemy heads. But i have seen the oppsite on whitelisted streamers, where their throwing knives bend their travel path 90 degrea to hit enemy instead of missing. For me they do the opposite. I also see that when i shot head i will always die to legshooters, but if i shot legs myself im allowed to deal normal damage. In fact in mw2022 beta my mk2 stopped to one tap due to me always aiming for head, to make myself ready for warzone. So i actually found out that if i instead shot enemy tie i would one tap every time. And stuff like ballistic knife stuck inside enemy skulls, 380 damage arrows stuck inside enemy head, the arrow follow enemy head movement as he looks up and down but dont one tap. Enemy recieve a sniper shot to his head and his head bleeds, but he takes no damage. In warzone 1 their way of nerfing quickscopers in warzone was to bend their bullets. It would always curve downwards to the left and hit enemy right tie. If u shot a enemy at around 7-10m and slowed it down to 1/16 speed you could Watch the bullet curve. Point blank all you could see was your aim beeing on head when you fire, but enemy bleed from right hip and you was rewarded with a white hitmarker. My 280ms ads close combat spr immidiatly stopped to one tap when vanguard got integrated to warzone. I went true the regular faces of «maby age finally cought up with me», «maby im rusty», «maby i missed», «it must have been nerfed». But all theese things are very easy to find out on ps5 as it always record and it takes you one calori to store that record and check it out. Stuck Projectile in enemy heads, that is pure proof that damage nerfs is a thing. The server clearly knows that arrow/ballistic blade etc is in enemy head. I also found out that my fury crossbow impact damage got nerfed to excactly half of its impact damage. It did 135 damage on impact, and full explotion damage. 135 is not a damage number for any hitlocation in that patch, but its excactly half of 270 which was impact damage for head/neck. Also, there should not be tons desync in firing range. Where you shot those dummy dolls. I know the dolls there has more HP than in warzone. But if you take off plates you can very often headshot them with heavy snipers and they survive it xD same with 2 plated enemies landing in. And i actually recorded a test with crossbow in firing range. I perfectly aimed at head and shot 10 shots towards head. I had both laser and iron sight to better see that im on point. 7 of 10 arrows either went straight true head, or curved around it. But the funny part is, if you buy codpoints for real money, buy blackcell or some bundle none of this will happen. I got new personal kill record twice at one evening when buying the first blackcell. When i do such i could enjoy gaming. I could run around with guardian knife, crossbow, and throwing knife and be fully capable to shit on Quads with that setup. I knew i would most likely hit that headshot with both crossbow and throwing knives, and i would survive more than 4 bullets so i could use my movement to manouver with the epic speed of guardian and melee the 3rd guy. But when i dont buy stuff its like this: My crossbow bolt will never hit or deal less damage, my throwing knife will have direction towards head, but then suddenly midway there bounce over him, some of them Even bend 90 deagre Angle and just dissapear into the sky, and the enemy will kill me with 4 bullets of any gun on any range, and he will land every shot as my hitbox will be 3m wide and his aim assist will act like aimbot. And most likely my aim assist will act like aim pulloff and make me look like the biggest noob in the game. But aim assist pulloff is the typical nerf for snipers, bullet spread is the typical nerf for shotguns, hit detection is the typical nerf for smg and sprayguns, combined with lowered damage theese days. Also, in a that patch when the first blackcell was released litteral everyone complained their ass of on the audio, i have never had better audio in cod. Because i bought the blackcell. I could hear every single footstep easy! Audio Damage Hitdetection Firerate Hitbox Sprint to fire/gunjam Lagspikes Aim assist/resist/off target locks 90 degrea pov change Spread Bloom effects Projectile trajectory(dno this Word in english) And more is rigged. Gas damage Gasmask duration Gas circle pull For multiplayer you can add in spawns, and that team you went 55-3 vs in first half is now able to Flash and nade you 3milliseconds after spawn 45 times in a row. And only time ur screen is not white is when you Watch killcam, which includes a care package moving sideways in the air and drop on ur head killing you.
Beyond resonating with me lmao you're speaking to my soul right now! I have the highest level of internet my area has available and only when I play cod do I lag and have a high ping. It's not every match; but I notice I'll go from 6 ping all the way up to 210 ping with 2-3% packetloss. Didn't make sense till watching this video.
I'm so glad I saw the part about Super Bullets cause even though multiplayer is apparently 60hz just last night on my screen during a hardpoint match an enemy came around the corner and killed me with a single submachine gun bullet while I was full hp!
Why would Activision pay for better servors when they can get away with 20hz servers. People aren't going to stop playing the game. They take advantage of the playerbase because they can.
This desync (dying far behind cover), has been a thing for me since MW2 2019 TBH, kinda got used to it by now. Even though it shouldn't be something acceptable.
It has been like this since day one of the original Warzone, if you look back to the Aug and M16 burst meta, that was the worst for getting shot around corners, it highlighted how bad the servers were.
Yeah, my squad and I played this game religiously since the launch of MW Warzone, then took a break during the trashfire that was Modern Warfare 2, came back for Modern Warfare 3 when they fixed it, and now none of us are playing it because where we had a 25% win rate on resurgence with pretty good k/d ratios, we now struggle our asses off to get more than one win a session. This issue you describe in combination with Aim Assist being totally broken for controller players as well as movement being completely over tuned, no one enjoys it.
Evading gunfire right now is annoying. When trying to plate up and run around objects and run through doors and windows to break line of sight, I’m constantly taking damage and having to constantly plate up. It made me think that there was always a third party shooting at me. But it’s because I’m still receiving damage as I turned the corner.
My Text Crediting BattleNonsense for his image on Super Bullets did not appear. So credit to him. The OG of network testing, the GOAT even.
I have been a network tech for years and I couldn’t agree with you @battlenonsense, @TacticalBrit @Jgod , of corse you & more about the TR (t Rates) + the dilapidation of any type of synchronous control I’ve ever seen unlesss I Str8 unplug my rack. Then I Might be able to recreate their horrible issues thank you and esp Tactical Brit he is very educated certainly on CODs use of their OSI model and I wish the community as a whole would stand up instead of being stood on! #CoDplayersmatter $70 plus micro “Trashactions”
Thank you for working for your fans 🎉!!!
Ps. These “content creators “ make their living advocating for our $$$ and our time…. So like the vid, any vid ,all vids.
Game is horrible worst then caldera era and that was the worst before this release
OTG! U don’t know the levels of fun I’m having. COD has been mugging us for a while now.
@@TheTacticalBrit
Greedy bastards only money interest them.
Unfair cheating game.
Never played in such a game where creators do not respect players and themselves.
Shame shame shame!!
its fraud, and way worse, they advertise a game based on precision aiming then go ahead and compromise everything about the game they advertise without informing the customers of what is being done, the game is about movement and aim but they completely render the gameplay mechanics they sell pointless, i even purchased an overpriced PC with the latest 4090 because of that lag thinking its an fps issue and it made no difference to this lag you feel when up against some players with aimassist who the game simply gives wins to
the best part is they show you the replays of how they are doing fraud every time
activision needs to reimburse everyone they sold to and i want activision to reimburse my 4090
There is no excuse for COD to not have to best severs on the market as much as they bring in.
Agree. None. Even if it cost them 250 million to upgrade… they’d get it back VERY quickly with how often games come out and how aggressive their bundles are marketed.
@@fubarexress6359it will be their downfall
@@fubarexress6359 They dont give a flying fuck if we continue to buy and play their products.
@@fubarexress6359 AND that is a MAJOR fix, and I am one that believes any MAJOR community-requested fix will bring back many players and keep the ones that are already playing for longer.
Amazon games has the shittiest servers in the universe despite AWS...
The desync is so bad in base multiplayer. Countless times I’ll be shooting half a mag into someone’s back before they turn around casually and kill me in two bullets. It’s absolutely infuriating.
I tell my friend this and he says “it’s headshot damage” like no bro even if I get 2 headshots they’re still perfectly fine 😭
Activison patent read it
Yeah, I tried to use like 3 different ARs and they don’t compare to SMGs most of the time, it feels like a LMG with no recoil…
@@Pap1franz most ar headshot doesnt reduce the number of bullets to kill, which is dumb af
It got worse after the S1 release too. I went from having reasonably decent matches to complete abortions. Everything feels wrong now.
They need to grow the spine to actually make warzone its own thing so they can build on it and make it stable instead of burning it down every single year to integrate the new game
THIS!!!
You assume they are competent enough to even build a new thing with the quality of engineers they employ
@@gordonramsayfanatic they can’t because it’s how they make their money. Because it’s integrated people buy the multiplayer game and generate revenue
Honestly all I can blame is epic and Fortnite they made changing a game completely cool
They should make 1 last call of duty and just keep updating it make it one big game. That's how cod works in China as they have COD Online which is one game with constant updates.
That’s what happens when you release a new game every year instead of focusing on one for multiple years.
Focusing on one game doesn’t magically make your trailer park internet any faster.
@meangreen99 you are a weird individual bros siding with activision 🤣
@@meangreen99 Its not an individuals internet problem, its the games servers problem. Cod devs can’t even fix their own servers and lag and add unfair skilled based damage and eomm. Not to mention the horrible skill based matchmaking that everytime you get in a game it feels like you’re playing in a world championship tournament lobby. All of those arent new tho, its always the case with cod. Especially warzone.
Exactly another thing to hate about yearly cods is it always makes the player count lower in your favorite cod .
@@ESF-EF The people making, maintaining the sever side of things probably have nothing to do with the game itself and vise versa. This has been an issue for a few games (Years) now and either they don't want to fix the issue or have no idea how to. I'm going to say they have no idea how to, I have worked in I.T and even though on a smaller scale network issues like these just stay crap and don't get touched or fixed because of money, time and just generally not giving a shit.
Bruh, BF4 had 60hz servers and it's fricking 11 years old. Even the disaster of a game that bf2042 was has 45hz, just unbelievable how cheap Activision is.
@tyruido1175 battlefield has been sounding better and better lol. Most of my friends left cod and went to 2042 since 2042 has fixed tons of issues it had. If cod continues getting worse and worse, I might just step back and play some battlefield lol
@@jwill8587 bf2042 has desync issues since day one.
They did eventually. As an old gamer, I remember how bad the launch was for bf4. Its funny that it was also because EA used 20hz servers. Same exact thing was happening. It was a great game a year or so after...lol
We’ve had awful servers for the last 4 years. The problem is there is no alternative BR like WZ. Someone please make a good game so we can ditch this greedy and incompetent company.
I doubt people would actually ditch Warzone for a better game. The name of Call of Duty and Warzone is way too heavy to just leave behind. Some of course will, but I doubt it would be enough to be a slap in the face for Activision.
I am hoping for warzone to either get it together or for a great BR to come by and knock it outta the park. Theres alot out there but none have the warzone feel we all itch for
@@tiredcaffeineYeah i have my doubts on that too, just hoping for a miracle at this point lol
Been saying this for years look at Apex didn't even have any publicity and blew up, look at Off the Grid new BR blew up because it was the new br
I think that's what Battlefield is aiming for next year with their new battle royale coming with the next BF game. Not that faith in Battlefield is high right now, but I'm hoping they get it right and we get both a new, better game to play, and the competition forces CoD to do better
A FAST human reacts around 150 milliseconds.
Having 50 Ms of delay on top of 40-80ms of ping
Means that you are ACTUALLY a COIN FLIP probability of dying every time.
That is exactly how this version of warzone feels, even down to the map. I don't like completely talking about this stuff, but yes, "a coin flip is this warzone."
this comment is literally what I try to tell my friends lol
EXACTLY what they want. Remove the skill gap and noobs get happy which are MOST players and they buy skins
There are times I simply can not win a gun fight. If I feel like I can't win I just quit. It usually takes about 2 or 3 minutes into a match for me to know how its going to go.
@@SpaceXForce I think it is just the opposite. I'm not a bad COD player. Sometimes I'm in the middle, sometimes second, sometimes first, rarely last.... In BO6 I always come last, but I move on to other CODs and become a decent player again.
I just think the game sucks, but besides, all the sick tryhards, sweaters, and youtubers are all in that game, so it's not viable to play if you're a newbie, or a halfway decent or casual player like me.
Please continue to cover this topic. People don’t talk about it enough and it is beyond frustrating when I’ve improved my skill significantly but the game screws me over.
Enter: “Get better” and “Skill issue” comments.
If you're still playing WZ it's an IQ issue.
@@intellectic9155lmao Brain issue. Battered wife syndrome.
@@intellectic9155 you know what i gotta agree here, you're still playing this clown show of a game after all the shit integrations all the fake BS weapon balancing all the horrible server issues this game has been subjecting people to then you are the problem
@@intellectic9155why are you even here then? You’re saying you’re too smart to play warzone but dumb enough to watch the content? Lol
@leonleon3267 agreed but area 99 lowkey fun with friends
I’m glad these videos are coming out because I’ve been experiencing this since day 1 and it’s been terrible.
Stop feeling so sorry for yourself lol it’s just a game
@@meangreen99 What a weirdo lol
@@meangreen99 and people are making millions off just a game, they should fix their shit🤡
Me and my buddies thought we were going crazy... getting totally smoked by people i would of destroyed last game. And don't even get me started on the sound... worst cod in history by far the worst warzone. Not even close.
@@brockbrawn1524 Tell me about it, and is it just me or whenever im in a gunfight with one person suddenly like 5 different people appear out of nowhere and all go for you, And not to mention how I die in the most ridiculous way for example im shooting this guy i didn't even hear at all with the shit audio, he's low, he goes behind a corner i rush for him slide round the corner prefire directly at him and he stands up and kills me....but I was shooting first right at him...??
Just remember everyone, these idiots made a BILLION dollars last year and they are still running 20 tick servers..
They prob got cheap single ply toilet paper at their corporate offices so they save more $$ appease the investors. This is the problem with big corporations like these. The $ is only focus and the result is enshittification
How did these clowns not think we would notice??? Who tf is making these decisions!
Game is massivly played by kids who do not even think, of anything, let alone this.
-wildly inconsistent TTK
-not being able to hear anything
-feeling like i’m hauling a semi-truck on my back at all times
-performance issues
-bugged loadouts
-bugged interactions (revives/zips/door/boxes)
-THE LAAAAAAAG
when does it ever end
100% all of this *rage noises*
@@channeljohnnyYT you nailed it on the head an the not being able to revive is insane in clutch moments /final circles players leave thinking u didn’t want to revive them n thts not the case
@@channeljohnnyYT you nailed it on the head an the not being able to revive is insane in clutch moments /final circles players leave thinking u didn’t want to revive them an thts not the case
spot on !
the TTK is ridiculous.. 6 bullets and i'm dying ? 3 out of 10 bullets might one shot someone if you're lucky.. Every single nade thrown at you weirdly falls right at your feet every single time
These issues are also a problem in multiplayer.
100%
I've had gunfights where I get the first shot in while ads on a guy who is still sprinting toward me and still die and hit all my shots
I’ll be one off my last score streak and lose a gun fight where none of my hits register
It's crazy - their "normal" 60-40Hz servers can't keep up in *normal* multiplayer and they use 20Hz servers for BR with so many players.
DESYNC IS SO BAD EVEN IN MULITPLAYER THAT I'VE STOPPED THIS AS MY MAIN GAME - NOT GONA FUKIN DEAL WITH THIS SHT EVERYTIME I FEEL LIKE GAMING!!!!!!
Atleast the $30 Mastercraft Bundles work flawlessly!
@@collinthewhite they're bugged too 😂
@@hdrghcftyhh2439Dont worry theyll be fixed shortly
And the Trans Skin…
@sweetgav9163 don't be a tool.
@sweetgav9163 theres a trans skin?😂
As a guy who's been in IT for the last 22 years, 18 of which was in the military, if you buy servers that are not the same as the original servers and then load them with software and expect them to act the same, you're in a for rude awakening. If you buy NEW servers, you always sundown the old and keep replacing with the newer SAME models. It's like they fire and hire new IT people for each iteration and there's no turnover or documentation so they start from scratch...every. single. time. I can tell you that if I did half the shit job they do, I'd have been fired multiple times.
this is the best and clear explanation ive heard about desync and the bad servers of cod. my bf didnt believe me but even he said yeah i understand now what you mean.
If you do the math, a character in tac sprint can travel about .4 meters or almost 1.5 feet before the game updates their real position on 20 hz servers. That is a VERY large distance. Which is why you can be 1.5 feet past a corner but on the other players screen you are still perfectly visible. This is not including a 50ms ping which doubles that distance
So if tac sprint wasn’t a thing, it would feel more “fair”? Am I understanding that right? Genuinely wanna know, cheers
Slower movement would mean less room for discrepancy yeah. The max difference between your view and your enemy's view would be smaller.
Summary I guess is that since the game is so fast paced favors the shooter and you can't rely on damage feedback due to delay and you don't know opponents exact relative position to avoid getting instakilled constant movement is king, just move like a ADHD unpredictable bunny rabbit 24/7 for the whole resurgence match being mindful of cover and avoid standing still for too long and you're way more likely to stay alive than relying too much on visual and damage indicators.
Personally I'm over Area99, most of the time there's not enough space to play strategically and game is not responsive enough for me to have a good time in constant CQC when gunfights feel random at times it really ruins the feedback loop and I'm not much into constantly sweating for 20min straight by moving around like a junkie
@ well yes in a a sense, they would only be able to travel a max of 7 m/s as opposed to a little over 8 m/s. So it would cut down that distance by 15% ish
@@emwols this wasn't a problem in the previous game, when with some weapons you can go as fast as 6.1m/s
This explains so much, really well put. I noticed it on launch of mp when dying to players who were facing the opposite direction or sideways. 20hz is insane in 2024.
Again, I need to commend you for the effort being done. You're testing, knowledge and research are all highly valuable to this community and I am praying someone on the dev team or whoever is capable of making a change is listening to you and these videos.
Bravo Lachy! You are amazing
This game feels so inconsistent. I’ll be on a 10 man kill streak or bloodthirsty IN WARZONE and then I run into a terrible player I already killed and somehow he guns me down in less than a second when I didn’t miss a shot and most times shoot first. It’s like the game is capping how well I can actually do. It’s extremely frustrating and no clue how it’s this bad in 2024. Battle field 3 never had this problem. How does CALL OF DUTY in 2024 struggle this bad
Completelly agree. I got tired of sudden deaths, teleportation, the lag issues, etc... I used to enjoy warzone in MW3 but in BO6 was so annoyed that I ended up uninstalling
It’s awful, Treyarch always destroys Warzone
I thought it was my internet I keep lagging on warzone but not on zombies
its treyarch every time they have the title its ass.
0:19 This is something I would regularly see on warzone. The only surprise is that it is being called out now and not always. Half the time my deathcams would show different things than what I saw from my point of view. My favorite is when the guy who kills me is flying across my screen, jumping left and right at full sprint speeds from the same location without actually running at all then the deathcam would show them pretty much standing still, moving slowly to one side. 10/10 game...
@@ProxCQ trust me I’ve experienced with that on multiplayer
Dude, so glad I'm not wasting my money on this game. I personally always had issues with sync during regular WZ, probably due to my connection. I'd probably have broken a keyboard by now, if I had tried this game.
Awesome job, benchmarking the servers and finding out this issue. Way more work than I'd put in. Truely a great service to your fellow players.
How you wasting money on war zone lol it’s FREE lmao
@@nolanjames7723come on dude why u acting dumb. He was talking about not wasting money on BO6. He just had issues in WZ before. Its really not that hard to understand if Im being honest😂
@@nolanjames7723r u stupid or stupid?
it's just sad that they can't get their servers straight, when other titles have done a much better job 10 years ago.
the older titles didn’t have servers, it was p2p only. mw19 was the first server-based cod
They use that money for executive bonuses
They can get their servers right, they choose not to. You're out of your mind if you think Microsoft/Activision/whoever is making the calls 1. can't figure out the technical update 2. can't afford the "upgrade"
they can...but why would they!? did you see how much shit they sell to stupid players...all those stupid operators, skins etc...now they sell f*c*in SOUND!!!
You said can't, you mean won't.
I'm so glad this is a genuine problem i was gonna crash out i thought i was just washed 😂
Great vid Brit. Trying to explain this to my friends is like trying to explain it to a litter of puppies with sausages in my pocket.
@@juicesghost8501 lmfao i love that analogy
Omg so true. They just wont get it
@@juicesghost8501 lmaoooo
100% point blank period. I actually rage quit yesterday over this. And I'm not GREAT, but I feel like having a 2.3 k/d and facing most people in most games who are near a 1 k/d, but yet I'm getting deleted. and I just get tired of it feeling like it's taking me years to kill an enemy, yet I die is a milli-second.
@XoxoxoGaming you're not alone. I used to be an insane sniper in the recent MW3, and I had an actually high K/D. Now I have a K/D just above 1 in MP and it's "below average" in Warzone (even though I was insane on MW3 Rebirth).
I was also good in Cold War too, and now I can't even compete.
@@Igotbored1824 you're not alone I average between 1.65 and 2.6 KD but I'm just over 1 KD in this current iteration. It makes me not want to play because I know I'm better than this yet i get deleted in 2 or 3 bullets it seems. Even when I have someone dead to rights.
@RealQuickComics I used to have a genuinely high K/D in ranked, I gotta check again but I know it was over 1.5. We'll see how drastic the change is when BO6 ranked comes out.
On the bright side BO6 ranked skins look decent, and a lot better than MW3's.
Yup I usually have around a 2.0 -2.2KD. The desyncing is the biggest variable. But I've also noticed spawning will become more aggressive for a losing team in multiplayer rhat dudes will spawn directly behind me. Now top it off with SBMM.
2.3 KD is like top 1% lol so you are by definition great at the game
It's crazy that the omnimovement has such an impact, where Advanced Warfare felt like it had much snappier movements, up, down, left, right with the boosting. But it never felt quite as bad as this does now.
The content coming out recently has been phenomenal lad! Hands down the best/ most informative CC in the game right now!
Best, most honest informative video I've seen from a streamer with regards to Bo6.. You've got a new sub here my friend!
Between the hit registration and getting instantly killed as you're respawning is beyond frustrating...
Bro i had a fulled upgraded gp31 or gp91 cant remember. I put it on single shot and it took headshots in quick succession to unalive a dummy in the shooting range.
A non upgraded pistol takes the same amount of headshots to unalive a dummy.......this is so pathetic. Warzone is destroyed by B06.
I knew i wasn’t Crazy
Bro me too I literally thought I was the only one. That’s craazy I literally noticed every single one of these problems and thought I was just absolute garbage lol
😂
I've definitely experienced the issue shown in this video. One problem I have is that there are so many guns in this game yet so many of them feel completely useless
Yes!! Xm4 or whatever the first AR is has this issue HORRIBLY. I can’t even use it omg
@@alexdaubon134 Because they killed recoil forever, mw2019 recoil was customisable for example, m4a1 with monolith suppressor,vlk scope,vertical grio and 50 mag is perfect for mw2019
@@gkdevanimatorthe attachment system in 2019 was so so much better
Great to see your technical vids getting the exposure they deserve. Love you work mate.
Ive only been playing MP and I've experienced this loads. The dying whilst already around cover is more common... But also had a fair few insta deaths where the kill cam shows completely different view points
I’m experiencing this in multiplayer I can’t blink faster than I’ll get melted from an SMG at 100 m From a guy that I’m already shooting at prior to him shooting me it’s absolutely infuriating
Same.
Bro literally like 150 games later I just said fuck this game today when I literally hit every shot on a dude from behind. I broke his plates and hit like 5 shots after that and he literally turned around and absolutely melted me when I had full shields and no damage😐
Same
The netcode was explained during MW2019 by cod developers and they admitted that they use predicative imagery for smoothness. This is their way of hiding lag on your screen for a fluid world experience. But this is the reason you get inconsistencies in hit reg reg and desync. This is why above average players have the worst experience in this game because they get into a lot of 50/50 gun fights but are no longer winning most of them like they would on an authentic netcode. The top 5% can still go on nuke streaks in SBMM lobbies because they can still get enough reaction and aim on players. But they'll still take damage when they shouldn't. This is why I quit cod. I prefer seeing og MW3 lag compensation. At least back then you could feel your character being dragged back in speed. Not this hidden desync in the background like it is now
Og MW3 and BO2 had best hit reg imo
Yeah. Playing Warzone feels like I’m walking knees deep in the mud. Multiplayer has its own issues but it’s not as bad as WZ, loading into the match is much faster so whenever I get a shit server that feels off I just quit and try again. What’s funny I think that CoD Mobile’s BR has much more consistent gameplay with less hitreg issues - keep in mind this is a mobile game with even faster movement 😂
Spot on dude. Thats also why I stopped playing seriously. Now its just a couple rounds with the boys here and there but I really dont enjoy it a bit. Its so frustrating.
people finding intricate reasons why they can't get kills
This video is so good. We all agree Activision are a bunch of cheap bastards that don't really care about their playerbase... Why would they, every year they make a new game and sell millions of copies... I stopped playing. Only thing I can do as an individual.
More superb analysis, Lachy. I’ve experienced all of this and it’s highly frustrating. Good to know I don’t need to adjust my set.
This is a fantastic video!
Breaks it down clearly and concisely, so that it’s easy to digest.
Kudos to you, thank you!
Bruh! 1:23 You're literally shooting at the air and hitting him LMAO! This is exactly how I die 99% of the time. You can't make this stuff up
that is just aim assist switching to hull from hitbox.
@@Bashmaster24cope harder bee hatch 😂
dude just a little bit ago i got on to see if its improved at all (its just as shit as day one) and literally ran into a room and was dead before i even saw the other player and no it wasnt because he was hiding he just materialized out of thin air
My bro, I can only subscribe once, but I hit the like button. You're doing CODs work.
I get packet loss CONSTANTLY and it always seems to spike and stutter as I'm in a gunfight with someone else. Its so bad, I've never seen this in a COD or any game. I have a 4090 in a good PC with gigabit internet. No problems in any game ever except this one. Tweaked every setting, nothing. Also experience what's shown here, its like I'm not seeing part of the fight and the game catches me up and I just die instantly. Something is very very wrong with their networking model and servers.
Turn gfx settings down, change vram target to 70%, texture streaming to minimal, and if you can, max out allocated texture cache. Maxing out allocated texture cache is optional (I believe). These changes mostly resolve my issues. I'm playing on med gfx.
Do need to note that the servers are a steaming pile of dog shit still, so hit or miss, but this mostly solved my issues.
That's awful. I don't even get packet loss hut there's still massive desync sometimes
@@koehler45are you sure? The game won’t tell you unless you turn it on in the settings
Never happens to me.
@@intellectic9155 bro, why are you giving someone else shit about playing WZ when you're now saying you also play? Fking troll ass lol
Same issue on multiplayer. 100+ fps and instant deaths. Only to see the kill cam show me on the enemy’s screen longer than what was on my end. It’s crazy
I experience these problems all the time. I will reiterate, ALL THE TIME. I have the best internet I can get in my area (Which is of exceptional quality). This is the best video I've seen pertaining to this topic.
I scream DESYNC every death damn near for past 3 years it's INSANELY worse in WZ BO6 Integration
and u did nothing to change it except butthiurting comments haha
@Dar1usz coping because you can't understand the comment above you nor can you add anything useful to the conversation. Waste of a comment. Keep gurgling Activision nuts.
@@Dar1uszwhat you expect him to do about it?
lol 0:59 it’s registering headshots that are obviously body shots. I’ve been noticing super inconsistent damage registration to damage zones along with the desync issue
I remember D Sync was a concept I was made aware of during MW2019, in which it felt as though it was a once in a blue moon occurrence that didn’t necessarily undermine my experience.
I first noticed the D Sync becoming more frequent with each new iteration of WZ on the original IWX version (Cold War, Caldera). A game that at point had some of the most consistent and gun play experiences I’d experienced had quickly left me feeling utter disbelief a majority of the time. At the time I rationalised that this observed drop in “performance” was the result of a very bloated integration and the spaghetti like nature of continual development changes.
Unfortunately my optimism that this could all be resolved upon WZ 2.0 dropping was naive. It was this title in which the inaccuracy of player modelling and aiming direction became glaringly obvious a majority of the time. I think this may have been exasperated by the 3rd person “aim-lean” animation that Modern Warfare 2 introduced, but either way, it was extremely off putting.
As we can all agree that things have grown considerably worse as further integrations have occurred, do you think this is actually the bi-product of a skilled labour shortage when it comes to game development?
There have been many large scale public layoff since MW2019 went to market. Without having an intimate knowledge of the industry, it would appear as an observer that studios have a really difficult time executing a well refined and quality end product. Treyarc had the opportunity of a full 4 year development cycle for this game and yet these titles feel less and less polished than the titles that were released during the mid 2010’s.
Yes, technology has progressed and some improvements have been made when considering fidelity and physics simulations BUT they haven’t necessarily resulted in an improved user experience which is after all, the sole purpose of a video game - an enjoyable experience.
Some things to acknowledge would be the scope of platforms these games are developed for now how optimisation is impacted when attempting to achieve a similar experience across these mediums.
Any way, love your videos and the detail you provide for the gaming community ❤
I remember in the last season of Modern Warfare 2019, Activision had a "We're Hiring" ad on the main menu, which made me wonder if they had ever done that before. It seemed a little desperate that a company of that size would put a link to a job application page right in one of their games. Was recruiting new talent that difficult? Back in 2020 I thought it may have had something to do with the pandemic, but that doesn't explain anything.
Nonetheless, Bobby Kotick was explicit that he sold Activision-Blizzard to Microsoft due to increasing competitiveness, increasing technical complexity, increasing difficulty securing investment, and increasing difficulty with talent aquisition and retention. I think you're correct that the degradation in technical quality since MW2019 is likely a result of these factors cascading.
We won't know what the effects of the Microsoft acquisition will be for another few years, but Kotick's thinking was that Microsoft would have the resources to aquire top talent and shepherd games like COD (with all the difficult engineering work needed) to continued success.
We will see. I hope so. COD is a great franchise and the gaming industry wouldn't be the same without it.
@@BasePuma4007 'We're Hiring' sign is still there lol
I think the issue is the lag compensation they try and apply universally across each game session for 'balancing' reasons, I'm similar to you, not based in London but not far and I get 3-5ms ping to UK servers and 10-11 to Paris and Amsterdam, and the worst by far are the German Frankfurt servers (I get 17-19ms), I can play on Turkish servers at just under 30ms and get better hit reg than the German servers. Overall the tick rate, as you've mentioned because of the speed of movement really needs to be upped to 128 tick so that it captures all the movement and all the 'bullets' because as is it really doesn't, and the game seems to hugely favour people with higher pings than lower.
Thank you so much bro! Finally I kinda get it. I've been wondering what was up. You the man!
Basically the same problem that affected Battlefield 4 at launch with 10Hz servers
With the new movement i feel 60Hz is the minimum
Even EA owned up to their mistakes and introduced higher frequency servers 😂 Warzone has the same issue BF4 had, it’s just more hidden under lag compensation mechanic.
Nonsense. This is a netcode issue, not a hz problem. 😂 Do people just say anything nowadays.
Tick rates are part of it.... Ffs
@@OLoKo128 nothing will ever top the BF4 launch netcode fiasco. It was so bad that your character model could literally be behind a wall completely and your corpse would ragdoll out the other side of the wall from momentum.😂
It's not just Warzone. I only play 6v6 MP and it's atrocious there too. I have played every CoD and usually maintain a K.D. just under or even over 2.00, but in this game I am getting absolutely obliterated before I can even think of pulling the trigger. It's super frustrating because I'm used to a certain level of performance from myself in CoD but here I feel like it's out of my control.
It's you. My K/D is over 2. It would definitely be higher in older CODs but I'm still performing mostly the same. SBMM and EOMM are trash but most of you out there are on some serious cope over how good you _thought_ you were.
We all get old and slow man, don't fight it 🤣
Same here. High KD maintained even as the SBMM/EOMM algo's get tighter and tighter, but BO6 is the first time switching to controller is a **must** for me, and it's still not enough to be competitive. Maybe one day I can have the same 150ms head start on opponents that a few streamers have.
Copium
@intellectic9155 so what you're saying is that everyone plays the same servers as you? Everyone has the exact connection as you? You're dumb af.
The desync in MP is equally as bad for me especially when you combine it with insane SBMM so you don't know if you're have network related issues or actually being killed by someone much better than yourself.
this was an INSANE good video !
please share it worldwide ! ALL operators needs to know about this video !
Im sooo glad you made this video WZ felt so bad the movement felt great in multiplayer but something was wrong in WZ and I couldn’t figure out why.
yes, this is the one of the biggest reasons i do not like the movement speed because the game servers can't handle it.
I don't even play Cod but i still watch these videos cause they are done soo well.
Haven’t really had any of those “behind cover” deaths. However, I’ve noticed the people I’m playing aren’t that great so they’re missing a lot of bullets as I run away to cover. Once SBMM kicks in properly for me I’m sure I’ll notice it. My issues lay with the buggy interface, literally a few dozen issues I can think of from the top of my head.
Yeah like sights and skins being unrequited randomly
@ YUP!
Great information as always mate.
Awesome video! Good luck on the drive to 200k
Great break down of all the problems 👏🏻. All makes more sense now
I am actually over it. They fumbled it AGAIN. Haven’t bought last three games because of this. I will put it aside until it is in a playable state. If a better alternative comes along I think I might be gone for good this time…
Bro activated sleeper agent
The larger problem is that there's nothing else to play, no one is releasing a better game that people want to play as an alternative
yea like what the hell else are yall guys playing? I always play CoD
Fortnite
There's other stuff to play... plenty, in fact.
. I got back in touch with an old friend recently and we havent gone back to playing WZ and we havent gotten annoyed once. F WZ and COD. At least i dont have to hear toxic little faggots who wouldnt use the same language irl 😂
@@prophetascending9021 fortnite boring sh, apex ultimate tra, pubg - not for me personally
I am here because a German UA-camr called Stylerz is reacting to you’re awesome Video! Thank you and keep up you’re amazing work…
Greetings from Germany
It’s so bad right now that I can go entire nights and not win a single gulag and before I had over a 2KD in there
I'm seriously so at the point(been at the point for years) why do they not just reactivate MW19 and Verdansk along with rebirth. Why are they still trying to evolve this game? Turn back on MW19 Verdansk, reactivate the store, and make Warzone start from there again. Give us a huge news drop that this is now their vision going forward. That was the greatest era of Warzone. It is the game we all fell in love with. Audio, visually, gunplay, movement. It checked all boxes. How could that not be the easiest and best route for development. Bring it all back.
Verdansk is coming back in Spring next year
@@sportsnoutdoorsclips True mate wz1 best warzone ever i dont even play this wz2 its soo bad...
Would love to see you highlight the fact that a large amount of players (me lol) cant even access the game - because we made a loadout the game cant read by putting on a weapon charm - leading to an infinite loading loop on launch
Thats actually insane. $70 for a game you can't play because you used a charm in the game. 💀
It feels bad because every second game on Area ends in 2 minets.
I've been seeing exactly this and I was making a video on it..
However now maybe I won't need to! ❤😂 nice video- nice info. I like what you explain at 2.50. Everyone listen up!!
You're doing god's work! server balance and consistency is as important as game and gun balance. It needs to be acknowledged by them!
6:07 no human can track like this, not even one bullet missed, gg aimassist
@@Leca_187 It’s insane, how someone can believe this is fair
That’s not aim assist on controller , thats aim assist on mnk
@@Kasopie sure, tell yourself that, just because you don't know how to use a controller doesn't mean that others aren't abusing it.
I be saying the same thing!!! Aim doesn’t work like this especially not anymore it’s literally hackers in the new warzone which is expected but I didn’t think theyd ruin the game so fast I’ve also said this isn’t natural aim…
@@darealmephiles that’s definitely natural, going back and forth between both inputs and it’s like going from easy to expert mode, much easier, not even comparable
I thought I was going crazy and was bad at the game. Well maybe I am still bad…
Anyway, I glad that there is proof of the servers acting strange
I've known about Warzone's low tickrate servers for a while now.
The thing that blows my mind in regards to this situation, and likely will do the same for anyone not aware of this, is that BF4 (a game that launched in 2013) on console ran on 30hz servers. Granted, they didn't launch with those servers. DICE brought us 30hz servers on console some time after launch and I don't remember what the time-frame of that server update was as it's been 10 years, but my point still stands.
Roughly 10 years ago, we had 30hz servers on a game that was running on the PS4 and launch Xbox One.
The fact that Microsoft, after their acquisition of Activision, is either not giving us or not forcing Activision to give us servers on par with a 10 year old game is actually wild.
What’s up chat! This is sad… when battlefield came out with all the issues it had that community people stopped playing, asked for refunds etc. this community of warzone won’t do that. They won’t stop playing it.
I did that. I now play occasionly. Before i played like everyday. Its just unplayble.
It cause battle field literally came out broken u literally couldn't aim up or down accurately. And there was no way to fix it . people were forced to quit .
You couldn't do anything as the movement sensitivity was all fucked no matter what u did .
@Matt-n3v Yep and to this day 2042 still has a multitude of problems and how it is right now is how it should've released back in 2021. I have no hope for the next battlefield at all.
Sucks to hear. I was kinda wanting to try out warzone for the first time, but if imma be learning in an environment that doesn’t show what’s really going on… then that sounds pretty balls lmao.
Warzone has been 20hz since OG Verdansk. It was bad back then. It's the reason why you could get the "super bullet" effect with fast firing guns like the Fennec (Vector), which is why the gun got nerfed multiple times despite it realistically being a very average gun in terms of raw DPS.
Then it just continued to get worse with Cold War integration and the Mac-10, PPSh, and FFAR metas. And again with Vanguard integration. Their "solution" was to add an extra 50hp to player health so they don't die as quickly. It was a lazy fix.
@@Grishyy the super bullet effect also happend with the static-hv and micro uzi when it was meta in mw3
What? Are u kidding me 20 hertz? Wtf? Tgat explains all the issues man
I really don't understand how the community can accept pay to win audio and all of this amateur integration.
Most of these issues have been a problem in call of duty for 20 years. Running around a corner and still receiving damage, Snipers shooting 1 foot behind the target and still getting a hit reg, player models not even looking in your direction yet on their screen they are looking right at you.
All of these are staples in the cod franchise. Nothing new.
But thank you for making a video and pointing it out.
The truth is. If Battlefield is making a BR and they include load-outs, and it plays smooth and isn't infested with bugs. We can all happily move over to a better BR than Warzone.
@@LawdawgOG
Considering historical trends, expecting a Battlefield game to not be riddled with bugs (at least, for a decent while after launch) is some pretty high hopes.
I'm with you on the concept but I'd also be fully expecting lots of failure at first
Its never been this bad though. It g ts bordeline unplayable in bo6
I don't recall any COD being nearly as bad. MW3 on comparison is a masterpiece.
I really hate this warzone, they made sure to get that winner circle in the game to sell emotes but couldn’t bother to make a playable game. Everything seems to be so hard and slow. I don’t wanna move, don’t wanna shoot and don’t want to loot
The big issue with high tickrate servers for warzone is depending on what’s happening, even a really strong server might not be able to keep up with simulating 60hz for 100 players, and in particularly intense moments, lower end consumer internet connections might not support 60 updates a second. Granted, I’d like to see them go for 60hz sim/update rates, or even go with a dynamic sim/update rate the way sumn like pubg or fortnite did it, or whatever.
Cod doesn't give a fuck about warzone players because its free
Well, there is some of this, and there is some delibirate damage differences between players.
12 headshot hitmarkers in a row, followed by 2 chest and 1 stomach shot with xm4 within 20m range and then enemy kills me first. Killcam looks what i expect, i only had 1 plate and rechallenge him. He Get cought offguard, he misses a lot of shot and he kills me. The difference is that i have peekers advantage, and the fact that i just deal lower damage.
When i started to play warzone again i had fun. Due to me having this mindset:
- I have boicoited cod for months, i will be rusty.
- I have not played this version, it will feel and act wierd for me at start.
- I know there is algorithms, but most likely they will take a little time to come back since i have been gone for so long.
- I did not spend a single dollar on this game, it is what it is.
Having that mindset I actually had fun playing. Zero care for zero effort.
But there was no damage differences or hitdetection differences between me and enemy. Game felt great. But as expected they graduatly came back.
Yes there is loads of desync and server unstability, but it also takes a lot from the servers to run all theese algorithms 24/7. Have you ever noticed the better you perform the more unstable the game will be? Thats because the better you perform the more active the algorithms are going to behave.
I always laught when people claim this is impossible. To run such code on theese unstable servers. Well, clearly they have not read the riccochet patchnotes. Punnishing cheaters with «splash», «zero damage», «fake enemies», and «invisible enemies» live inside game sessions. How is that not live manipulation of engagements? They also clearly have not read all the patents on the matter which are listed as «in use» btw.
I have been nerfed since vanguard got integrated into warzone. Its been heavy, 70% of engagements Are rigged to unplayable levels, on 13ping sessions.
I dont see many other people running around and 70% of their throwing knives makes acrobatic moves in the air to avoid enemy heads. But i have seen the oppsite on whitelisted streamers, where their throwing knives bend their travel path 90 degrea to hit enemy instead of missing. For me they do the opposite.
I also see that when i shot head i will always die to legshooters, but if i shot legs myself im allowed to deal normal damage. In fact in mw2022 beta my mk2 stopped to one tap due to me always aiming for head, to make myself ready for warzone. So i actually found out that if i instead shot enemy tie i would one tap every time.
And stuff like ballistic knife stuck inside enemy skulls, 380 damage arrows stuck inside enemy head, the arrow follow enemy head movement as he looks up and down but dont one tap. Enemy recieve a sniper shot to his head and his head bleeds, but he takes no damage. In warzone 1 their way of nerfing quickscopers in warzone was to bend their bullets. It would always curve downwards to the left and hit enemy right tie. If u shot a enemy at around 7-10m and slowed it down to 1/16 speed you could Watch the bullet curve. Point blank all you could see was your aim beeing on head when you fire, but enemy bleed from right hip and you was rewarded with a white hitmarker.
My 280ms ads close combat spr immidiatly stopped to one tap when vanguard got integrated to warzone. I went true the regular faces of «maby age finally cought up with me», «maby im rusty», «maby i missed», «it must have been nerfed». But all theese things are very easy to find out on ps5 as it always record and it takes you one calori to store that record and check it out.
Stuck Projectile in enemy heads, that is pure proof that damage nerfs is a thing. The server clearly knows that arrow/ballistic blade etc is in enemy head. I also found out that my fury crossbow impact damage got nerfed to excactly half of its impact damage. It did 135 damage on impact, and full explotion damage. 135 is not a damage number for any hitlocation in that patch, but its excactly half of 270 which was impact damage for head/neck.
Also, there should not be tons desync in firing range. Where you shot those dummy dolls. I know the dolls there has more HP than in warzone. But if you take off plates you can very often headshot them with heavy snipers and they survive it xD same with 2 plated enemies landing in. And i actually recorded a test with crossbow in firing range. I perfectly aimed at head and shot 10 shots towards head. I had both laser and iron sight to better see that im on point. 7 of 10 arrows either went straight true head, or curved around it.
But the funny part is, if you buy codpoints for real money, buy blackcell or some bundle none of this will happen. I got new personal kill record twice at one evening when buying the first blackcell. When i do such i could enjoy gaming. I could run around with guardian knife, crossbow, and throwing knife and be fully capable to shit on Quads with that setup. I knew i would most likely hit that headshot with both crossbow and throwing knives, and i would survive more than 4 bullets so i could use my movement to manouver with the epic speed of guardian and melee the 3rd guy.
But when i dont buy stuff its like this:
My crossbow bolt will never hit or deal less damage, my throwing knife will have direction towards head, but then suddenly midway there bounce over him, some of them Even bend 90 deagre Angle and just dissapear into the sky, and the enemy will kill me with 4 bullets of any gun on any range, and he will land every shot as my hitbox will be 3m wide and his aim assist will act like aimbot. And most likely my aim assist will act like aim pulloff and make me look like the biggest noob in the game. But aim assist pulloff is the typical nerf for snipers, bullet spread is the typical nerf for shotguns, hit detection is the typical nerf for smg and sprayguns, combined with lowered damage theese days.
Also, in a that patch when the first blackcell was released litteral everyone complained their ass of on the audio, i have never had better audio in cod. Because i bought the blackcell. I could hear every single footstep easy!
Audio
Damage
Hitdetection
Firerate
Hitbox
Sprint to fire/gunjam
Lagspikes
Aim assist/resist/off target locks
90 degrea pov change
Spread
Bloom effects
Projectile trajectory(dno this Word in english)
And more is rigged.
Gas damage
Gasmask duration
Gas circle pull
For multiplayer you can add in spawns, and that team you went 55-3 vs in first half is now able to Flash and nade you 3milliseconds after spawn 45 times in a row. And only time ur screen is not white is when you Watch killcam, which includes a care package moving sideways in the air and drop on ur head killing you.
can we also talk about how garbage Area 99 plays and looks?
Beyond resonating with me lmao you're speaking to my soul right now! I have the highest level of internet my area has available and only when I play cod do I lag and have a high ping. It's not every match; but I notice I'll go from 6 ping all the way up to 210 ping with 2-3% packetloss. Didn't make sense till watching this video.
I'm so glad I saw the part about Super Bullets cause even though multiplayer is apparently 60hz just last night on my screen during a hardpoint match an enemy came around the corner and killed me with a single submachine gun bullet while I was full hp!
Remember streamers saying this gonna be best cod ever cuz its been 6 years in the making. Yeah right.
Some simple steps that will fix the issue:
Step 1: close the game
Step 2: open The Finals
Step 3: play The Finals
Step 3: come back and thank me
Why would Activision pay for better servors when they can get away with 20hz servers. People aren't going to stop playing the game. They take advantage of the playerbase because they can.
Chaulked!!! We experience this everyday. Makes you question yourself. Thanks for validating with stats and data. 😎🤙🔥💪
Very well done. I knew something was wrong, but couldn't put my finger on it
excellent explanation! thanks for taking the time
This desync (dying far behind cover), has been a thing for me since MW2 2019 TBH, kinda got used to it by now. Even though it shouldn't be something acceptable.
It has been like this since day one of the original Warzone, if you look back to the Aug and M16 burst meta, that was the worst for getting shot around corners, it highlighted how bad the servers were.
impressive the amount of work that went into this :)
yea same ,I thought I was going crazy, once again man another top quality video
5:01 you’re right, it is resonating with me. Every time I get into a gunfight I feel like I’m playing roulette… a game of chance.
Finally someone that talks about this! It makes me go crazy! Last cod if they don’t fix it soon.
You know you not giving up COD bro. Face it, they got you hooked. 😞
Yeah, my squad and I played this game religiously since the launch of MW Warzone, then took a break during the trashfire that was Modern Warfare 2, came back for Modern Warfare 3 when they fixed it, and now none of us are playing it because where we had a 25% win rate on resurgence with pretty good k/d ratios, we now struggle our asses off to get more than one win a session. This issue you describe in combination with Aim Assist being totally broken for controller players as well as movement being completely over tuned, no one enjoys it.
Evading gunfire right now is annoying. When trying to plate up and run around objects and run through doors and windows to break line of sight, I’m constantly taking damage and having to constantly plate up. It made me think that there was always a third party shooting at me. But it’s because I’m still receiving damage as I turned the corner.