Warzone 1 Vs. Warzone 4 - What Went Wrong?
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- Опубліковано 5 гру 2024
- What REALLY went wrong with the development of Call of Duty Warzone from Verdansk in 2020 to Black Ops 6 Warzone today in 2024. TCaptainX dives into the details of where Warzone went wrong, and how the future of Warzone looks ahead of Warzone Season 1 Reloaded.
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What went wrong? Everything 😂
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lol, that’s what I was gonna say
Whole cod went wrong😂😂😂
Hello Tdwag
So true! I miss MW 1 so much!
Nothing will bring back the feeling of OG Warzone. We were under Covid lockdown and it brought everyone together. Gunplay was great, movement was solid, and the map was perfect IMO. MW2019 engine was peak for COD.
How many more people are gonna repeat all the same stuff about covid being the reason why we love mw19 wz so much? It doesn't have anything to do with covid and everything with the wholesomness of the game itself. The only thing covid has given to the game is the free time which people could use to go ahead and try the new free to play game, that's it from here. Once they've tried it, they loved it, end of covid story.
I agree that we will never get back to “peak” Warzone due to the timing of things. We could get close though. But we are far from it currently
who was under lockdown? I was working everyday, I'm a home health physical therapist.
@@MichaelJacksonFromSegaBecause after and before Covid, a huge number of us didn't play the game. Lmao. I was still on Blackout, brother. Didn't want to spend money on the game until I got the first stimulus for being laid off work lol.
@@MichaelJacksonFromSegaAnd after Covid, a lot of us got tired of the game and the devs not caring about the problems. They just pushed every integration onto Ravensoft and told them to fix it afterwards. Despite the fact that most the problems many complained about even before the CW release were never fixed or even addressed. It was an okay game that we all played. A lot of games are like that. Very mediocre, but fun with friends. And the time we were gifted is the only reason many of us even picked it up.
It definitely went wrong when they tried to make Warzone the same as the other games instead of keeping it as it’s own game.
Exactly. It should have been a stand alone game from the beginning. Instead of breaking it every 12 month and changing fundamental mechanics they should have expanded the awesome platform they already had back then. They had to cull their own game when WZ2 launched because they knew that it was the biggest competitor for their new game. Absolutely pathetic…
I’m done with Warzone until they deliver a complete product. It needs a functional anti-cheat system, balanced gameplay that doesn’t penalize movement, reliable audio, better optimization, and stable servers. None of this seems likely to happen anytime soon.
@@C4Landon You'll be lucky if you even ever get one of those.
i deleted couple weeks ago. might try again if they drop verdansk or avalon
Same we will just end up seeing it die until someone else makes a half decent game
2020 Warzone was peak gaming. Nothing will beat the feeling when you see 4 Rose skins slide canceling around the corner 😔
@@Catybara-c1r Especially with 725’s and kali sticks 💀🙏
@@50.caluzi Exactly 😂
On behalf of all us regular warzone players, thanks for saying what needs to be said. You put together a well said vid on what’s going on. Hopefully something gets done
Gotta love how a dev that is probably terrible at the game is like “I don’t like jumping so I’m gonna make it bad”
i broke free from the endless cycle with the ebook Breaking Chains by Alden now i have the energy to grind harder in game and in real life
I think the pandemic is the reason warzone 1 was so popular. Nobody had anything else to do but play a free game
maybe thats what we need, another pandemic and wz4 will become great
I’m boutta drop Covid-20 so we can have good wz again 😁😁
@ crazy
@@Phlegnut19 nah bro the game was just better Covid had nothing to do with it
It’s the movement that sucks. Simplicity is key. Just give us good guns and a good map
It all went downhill when they tried to compensate for the little timmies by introducing more and more rng into gunplay. To put it simply, they are trying to put everyone on a level playing field by forcing people to have to deal with randomness
Also, GET RID OF PARTIAL FALL DAMAGE
For the same reason they made the gameplay too fast and added non-serious skins and operators
Dude you are so real bro. Love that you bring your self into this. Because it makes the video have more meaning to it. 10/10 cod youtuber
I've had that thought recently too, "At what point am I going to say enough is enough and find a new game". If yourself and other big content creators start to focus on other games, then ultimately COD/Warzone's popularity will plummet. As much as the community talks about content creators "complaining" about the game, ultimately the creators are the main marketing arm for Activision. Big ups for mentioning your personal concerns at the end of the video. I hope other creators will take that to heart and voice their own concerns as well.
I started a few weeks back. I refunded bo6 - a first for me, and jumped on Steam looking for alternatives. Haven’t found one yet though, but I don’t miss cod at all - just sad for it.
They gotta bring back Warzone 1
A tcap fitness channel would be amazing. Seeing the neglect that activision has for their community, I completely understand what you're going through. Good luck man and I hope you're successful, whatever you do. I'll sure be there.
I wish we could just go back to mw2019 engine with mw2019 guns only.
I'm enjoying Warzone atm but it's really good to see content creators highlighting the glaring issues it has.
Cap dropping a needed video w tcap
in summary :
WZ1 : Great
WZ2 : oops , we screwed
WZ3 : Great again
WZ4 : oops , we screwed again
BTW I 100% agree with keeping warzone seperated and NOT changing it every year .
and I don't agree 100% with omni-movement , it is just TOO MUCH unneeded movement that makes you dizzy 🙂↔️🥴
and thanks for the honesty
Your videos are so informative, you deserve way more subs
Thank you for taking steps to reach out and for all the content you release, best of luck for the future bro
Was a bit sad when I heard what you toward the end of the video. Would hate to see you not doing warzone anymore. You are my go-to guy especially when it comes the meta weapon builds, etc. But I get it, as a family myself, I totally understand you have to plot the best route for your future. Regardless if you move on from COD or not. I wish you the best my man. You’re a solid dude.
Great video. Honest opinion. Appreciated.
I’ve been watching your channel for 2 years now you’ve helped me a lot with everything in the game I’ve improved so much but since bo6 came out I was really excited about the game but the game don’t even give me any vibes to play I just only watch your Iive now I enjoy it that way now 😔😔😔hopefully they can fit it soon before i lose all interest in it all together
As someone who plays only on mouse and keyboard, bo6 multi-player and warzone are totally different experiences. New Warzone is super frustrating, multi-player is so much better.
Agree on that as well
i also play on kb&m but dont have multiplayer (never enjoyed the idea of it). what are some significant issues/differences you have noticed? just interested to see tbh
Yeah I play on mnk and I agree, mp movement feels like I’m gliding across the map, warzone feels like I’m carrying a 45lb weight vest on.
@@pandathegaminglegend5700 Warzone tends to be more laggy tbh. Bo6 mp movement just feels a lot faster and smoother.
bo6 for me is the worst gameplay experience cause of the server status and the incredible desync.even mw3 was far better experience for me. but mw2019 was peak for gameplay and maps
They wanted the game to be a jack of all trades but it turned out to be more a bob of no trades…
😂yup
Thank you TCap. Not blaming the issues we have on a stupid conspiracy, instead taking time to explain how online games actually work and why this happens.
Just wanna say/ I appreciate the content over the years!!!
Tcap is the one who gives us warzone 1 back, just to Write with the Devs 😍
Yeah we need wz1 back
Another great video! W TCAP!
The video we all needed. Thanks T
Thanks for all your help tcap I dropped my first 29 on rebirth because of u. Thanks for giving tips for Warzone 🔥🔥
Thanks, man. Hopefully they take all this into consideration. This could be a really fun game if they fix these issues.
This video was very on point and much needed regarding the current version of the game.
I have watched most of your videos from about a year back and I must say that i`ve been confused as to why our t-captain have`nt said much about the problems before.
As to the thoughts about setting up a channel for gym-coaching, I think you should give it a shot.
Since you`re a down to earth kind of guy, I bet you would get great feedback to whatever you decide to put out for an audience. You are much appreciated 👌😀
I’m on a Xbox series X, I used to love and grind Warzone all day. I also happen to have sub par internet, and half of my bullets just don’t register. I like very fast paced games, and because of that cods always been on my list to play, but right now it’s just not, Fortnite’s new season is really fun, and one of my favorite seasons so far. One of my favorite games of all time is dark souls 3, and it’s rumored to be getting a remaster soon, so i am replaying the original game. I just actually seem to be having fun when not playing cod, allot of my friends still play so I might sometimes play with them, but I noticed that it’s more fun to not play cod for me. I know this isn’t really an answer, but Im just not having fun that’s pretty much it. I also really hope it shoots back up to the top, I have been subbed to you for around 4 years, and this really seems like your passion. I really hope you can continue to make content, on games you like.❤
Babe wake up! TCAP POSTED! MY GOAT!
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I love you cause you are the only streamer who has actually been honest with the new warzone 😊
Really great video m8 basic non omnimovent is painfully slow. WZ 2019 was peak fluidity adding to skill expression.
Actually the "hitsxan range" is a bit worse than that. While the bullet isltself is hitscan (no drop and you don't have to compensate for target movement), the hitmarker is NOT. It takes at least 50ms (plus maybe some more due to ping I'm not exactly sure) so you don't see the hitmarker until several frames after. So in practice, if you aim at a moving target within the hitscan range, the visual bullet will visibly miss them, but at the frame where it looks like it passes them, you'll get a hitmarker, making it feel even more inaccurate because you see the bullet miss when you get the hitmarker
warzone 4 isnt great but to say its the worst integration yet is criminal. just seeing those clips of warzone 2 gave me PTSD, that was by far the worst.
the game is so bad now, and they wont spend money to fix it so GG
it was a good run I guess
GG
Mw19 was just perfect for warzone, the movement and how the guns felt was unreal, and the graphics are not comparable, sunset rebirth was something else.
brilliant video
Thank you Tcap! Content creators help get the information to the right people. I havent enjoyed the game at all. I even feel like there is multi-player inconsistenty issues. I have no proof but I feel like they added revenge spawns in multi-player. Most cod players tell me I just suck but whether I am good or bad, I just don't like the game. I am a casual player. The mindset of not being able to keep up with the meta's do to the slow high level guns just does not sit well. Will we ever have a warzone feeling again? Probably not and with that said I do not think verdansk should be released until they feel they could bring us that feeling back. I will play zombies from time to time but that isn't keeling my attention long enough. When delta force comes to console, I believe that's all I will be playing
What went wrong?!?!? WZ2 and DMZ were COD going in the right direction, a good evolution. But then....a bunch of streamers and "pro's" decided they wanted to slide all over the place with broken aim assist on controllers and it is actually DOGSHIT. Also BR games are so played out by and resurgence modes are stupid. You shouldn't be able to die a dozen times and still win.
@@JustinTheMan369 mw19 was the best cod, go play battlefield grandpa. Mw2 remake was the worst, bo6 coming in at second worst.
Hope this gets on trending
settings resetting to default might be my biggest op
Great video
TCAP THERES A BUNCH OF GAMES U CAN PLAY ,FITNESS videos to u got this🔥🙂
Really really good video
The big problem also is that warzone 1/mw19 was wayyyy more responsive….all of the games after have all had some kinda delay with controls and movement and its the worst that it has been with bo6…the delay started in wz2 and then thats when the netcode got bad and ever since then its been down hill and we havent returned or surpassed wz1 in terms of mechanics, feel, graphics, netcode ect
Exceptional video T CapX. Proving I’m not crazy when I continue to say gunfights feel incredibly inconsistent. It really a shame because halfway through wz3 I thought the game was in an amazing place. I was just dead beat tired of the old maps and guns. Bring in new guns new map and I’ll be happy. Instead they brought in an entirely new game with new issues that I don’t want to play. Ugh I digress. When is wz5? 😅
No offense to anyone but im sick of reading "Warzone1 was great because of Covid" like....how??
A lot of players (real gamers) still play almost as much as back in 2020, the game was a succes because it was new and they were spot on from the start. The map, the guns, the engine, the sounds, the gameplay, everything.
No one will ever convince me, that Caldera would have been the best map if it dropped first, BEFORE Verdansk.
I started watching Warzone streams in 2020 and I fell in love with how the game looked. I only recently started playing and didn’t really enjoy the game because Warzone 3 was almost nothing like the Warzone I saw on twitch. I also think that devs should put their personal peeves aside when it comes to the overall community and gameplay experience
Well done on this content. Everything you said is on point. 100% agree on everything and also have experienced the same issues. With so many complaining (streamers/content creators), I feel Warzone is on it's final dipping scale and is on it's way out the door. It's hard to give up on Warzone, I know, but these continues bugs, gas lighting from devs, and with no real fixes coming up...people should/most likely stop playing this and move on to something else. I can't stand Fortnite, but maybe I'll give that a try. I've tried Delta Force and enjoyed it somewhat, but it's still not at the same tempo Warzone is. Good luck!
I low-key wanna see a TCaptain fitness channel
Great observations! If they would just get rid of the cheaters that would make a huge difference, but for sure there are other areas that need work.
One bug that I have right now is I just can’t level up
No lie this is the absolute perfect video that the devs need to see to learn wtf is going on with this game. We're all giving up at this point and its truly sad.
Brilliant video 👌👍
A good video as always! And I have a question,What kind of edit app do you use?
I did not edit this vid myself. My editor uses da Vinci resolve, I edit on Adobe premiere
I'm kinda glad and not so glad that this is going where it needs to go.
When I played the beta, I could not get used to the omni movement and quite frankly the game felt broken to me almost immediately. Now, it's affecting Warzone so much, and obviously it's not just the omni movement, that the community is speaking out. So I thank you for making these videos cause you were one of the first ones to speak on what I was already feeling and screaming to my squad mates about the current state of Warzone!
With the inevitable backlash that's coming, they either get it right or get it wrong and see you in a hospital as a Register Nurse. Thank you for that too! (My wife is an MA so I know the value in that job.)
ngl Registered nurse is such an honorable job!
The biggest problem there would be with separating Warzone from mp would be that you’d have to level up guns on Warzone instead of leveling up guns on mp and being able to use them in Warzone. A lot of people don’t have the time to level up guns for two different games.
I think the worst part about their most recent gaslighting post in regards to hit detection is that if they are willing to manipulate the fan base in such a manner for just that one instance, imagine how much more they have been manipulating us in every other aspect….
Ok, this video is so good, serios and sad.
Tcap, u Cooked
bullet registration is definitely straight out server lag, rather than lag compensation
anyway, im not giving them a cent
10:32 this is EXACTLY why PING/LATENCY BASED MATCHMAKING should be in this game lol.
One of the worst thing is that in mw2 and mw3 I have grinded so much for camoes (643)and in bo6 I can't use those camoes
Great video. Small changes was only needed not complete overhaul. Fix servers fix lag stop cheating. That’s needed.
As a casual knm wz player, i have installed mw 2019, playing graound war and multiplayer. I feel relaxed and dont want to brake my mouse because of all the bugs, skill based dmg etc etc etc. ❤🎉
You’re doing gods work for the community
I just don’t understand why not leave Bo6 movement with bo6 don’t get me wrong Omni movement is nice but it’s not playing out as well as it should
Tcap, do you think that when they add verdansk back the game will have a bigger player count and get better all round?
10 years first time i uninstalled, i got the shark bundle and the attachments disappear when entering a game, i ask for a refund and they said im not eligible for a refund
Finally someone speak out the truth why warzone 1 was A golden era for cod battle royale ❤ i am gald u speak up bro i will subs u today
That’s how he became a legend wz player 🎉❤
Round of applause 👏 fr bro. Awesome video. Hope the devs see this. Although when they address or announce an issue it seems like they blatantly lie to us. SMH ricochet needs to go. They literally act like it is some hidden gem, the way they used it in the past with instant fall damage or ghost bullets to combat cheaters makes me think where these hit reg issues are coming from, although it could be the servers but we haven’t ever seen anything like this before Maybe ricochet is acting up cuz they did mention they were making updates to it recently (but they could be a bunch of BS as well) who knows. Sometimes I think ricochet is just a reporting system that is up to review and it really just operates sbmm. You should just become a dev so we can be done with all this BS. W vid 💯
Good video. As a casual player, I feel my investment in the game is not respected. It takes me weeks to level something up or learn a mechanic and feel comfortable. Then everything changes again and feels weird. I don't care for new title every year. Just fix the issues with what we have. Especially the server issues.
You can tell that there are a lot of possible solutions to prevent "snaking", but obviously some of them requires time investment to optimize and implement. Instead, they just chose the easiest method. Basically treating the symptoms, not the root cause. "Oh, the time gap between crouching and standing is too short, that causes the snaking" "Let's just slow down the speed of switching stances" "Ok that seems fix the problem"
My buddy who is a 1.2 kd is currently shadow banned. Insanely bad system.
They literally said they spent 4 years on BO6…what were they doing? Frying coconut?
The video was great tcap. I only joint the cod community when warzone 2.0 dropped. I was a DMZ player and never played WZ till they stopped the updates for DMZ. But in my short time playing WZ I have noticed some changes and not all were good. I as a casual player like the omni movement but the bugs and server issues are the biggest let down. Hard to make a game feel fluid if you’re lagging all the time. I agree, make WZ a game mode on ya own and stop piggie backing off multi player. I think that would help make things better but the devs for WZ need more time to finish the game before it’s released. I personally would go back to DMZ If it came back, but I also enjoy WZ game play as well. More time needs to be give to development.
I enjoy the live streams and videos tcap! Cheers all and here’s to hoping for a brighter future for cod.
Nice video, did you let Matt know about the jump ads speed penalty? In WZ1 we had the same ads speed while jumping as without jumping
They don’t know if they want a casual game or super sweaty. The beginning of warzone 2 they slowed us down but now with the omni movement you wanna make it harder they are lost.
just bring back the 2019 engine call of duty! thats all we want!
Im so happy people are starting to address this issue a lot more now, I miss one shot snipers at all ranges and part of the reason I feel like they were removed was cos no other guns could compete at long ranges with snipers anymore like they used to in WZ1. I know it may never happen but if they actually listen to the community maybe snipers can make a comeback too and start being rewarded for hitting long range headshots again.
Honestly, once Activision was acquired by Microsoft, they have rapidly gone downhill and their MO seems to be hide everything and cover it up with trash microtransactions
Ehh not much has changed since the acquisition
Majority of the changes and I mean 99% we’re done by activision. All Microsoft have done is stick it on game pass. You can’t blame Microsoft until at least another 5 years
Appreciate someone finally admitting that M&K players actually have downsides, people always just say "wah wah but you have your whole arm 😢😢😢"
To fix the issue at @10:50, an idea would be to go back to what they initially said in their "white paper" report of PING IS KING. But we all know that isn't true from their stand point.
Excellent excellent excellent video Tcap. And thank you for pointing out how tough it's been for us MnK'rs. #MMNKGA -- the thing that bothers me SO much about the controller vs. MnK "debate" is that any changes to the game mechanics that help MnK isn't just a buff to MnK, it's a buff to controller too! Visual recoil, dark rooms and dark operator skins, bad iron sights, poor bullet velocity -- ALL of those things, if improved help both inputs. So why not do it? Don't nerf aim-assist, buff the gunplay and nerf the visual noise!
like you said Warzone 1 had the gun glitch for 6 months, rage hacking, people going under the map the whole match, going under ground below stadium. dev errors went on for more than a year. i always hear warzone 1 but in truth is was bugged, copy and paste map and overall mid. only thing was mechanics. so warzone 4 is just as bad as warzone 1 and wont be fixed till after the holidays.
but they always fixed the bugs in warzone 1 asap. at leats they always tryed not always with good results. now they just don't care. i rember very well the under the map glitch, but after not even a week they fixed it
There’s so much wrong with Warzone now it’ll take a year to fully list all the problems but to me I agree Warzone should’ve stayed its own entity instead of integrating into every new cod game
There are alot of bugs but I also think the skill Gap is so huge many are interested in dying before they can pick up a gun..
So much of the mw19 has been great and I really don’t understand how they weren’t unable to reproduce it:
Graphics was amazing
Weapon feeling/ weapon sounds
General sounds were so much better (hitmarker, headshot, squad wipe,…)
Movement clean
Very instant feeling
Wish they would acknowledge this and change it into the right direction
I would prefer warzone's update is something like the DLC expansion of other games. Instead of enforce a huge integration/update every 12 month. They can just slow down the pace, give it enough time to test each latest cod's new mechanism, and gradually adding new stuff to warzone. Especially like new mechanisms, it is anticipated to require a lot of time to debug and determine if adding it to the current version of game will detriment the system and requires more testing.
When I create a load out it adds the attachments to my secondary and won't let me attach 5 attachments forcing me to rage.
I couldn't get my load out at any free or purchased load out the other day, unable to plate or stuck in infinite plating glitch, not able to throw items like load outs uav, plate or amp boxes, deployable buys or shoots. Over all I'm running 4 ms 250-300 fps my game feels like 60 fps.
Bullet don't register properly.
Guns feel inconsistent movement is absolutely essential in this game and the dead slides and not being able to close a door when running to break line of sight, I have to stop turn around pause close the door then continue running.
Picking up weapons you have to pause to pick a weapon and wait until the animation fully swaps unlike previous cod warzone.
All my friends appear off-line even the ones in my party, I can't delete loadouts it boots me out of the game. Over all I've spent upto 5k on my set up and I only play war zone. This game has taken so many steps away from the previous game that I can't even stream any more even tho I'm not pro it was nice to run a stream solo quads or with the boys how ever the rage and complaining from me my team and even over proxy chat is just not good for anyone to hear or see.
Please share my message to the creators because most of my friends don't only appear off line they uninstalled 😢 good luck 👍
Mw3 did so much to make the game playable for MnK players but with BO6 i feel like we are back in MW2 with all the visual recoil and muzzle flash overall bad visibility
Imagine being a 70 BILLION dollar video game publisher owned by a 3.3 TRILLION dollar tech corporation and your flagship title that brings in the most money is suffering this many issues.. IMO there is no excuse valid enough to justify how bad Activision is mishandling Call of Duty considering the unlimited resources they have available..
Legit refunded BO6 and I went from averaging 4+ hours 4-6 days a week in Warzone to barely playing an hour once a week.
It's got more bugs than game at this point and the gun shake from jumping is so bad I unbound jumping from my back paddles because jumping puts you at the bad of a disadvantage.
its twitter not x get it right