MG5 Review And Range Test
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2020
- The new 2020 MG5, the first fully electric estate in Europe is here, and we have been out and about test driving and testing the real world range. If you're not in one of these as a taxi within 6 months, i'll be very surprised, it's awesome.
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Looks like a sensible estate EV for those who want one. Really impressed how MG/SAIC have listened to complaints and added auto air con and even have a better chargepoint design at the front, amazing considering just how big a company SAIC are in China.
"Nobody's doing an EV estate car ..." Yeah, but quite a few of us are waiting for one ;-) Well done !! It looks good...
Next year the Taycan Cross Turismowill release, that's an estate. But it's really expensive
@@AniviaS Just ever so slightly out of my league 😆
MG5 estate very good value and range ..... good one
Yeah. I hate suv. I want an estate, wagon, combi, station wagon, shoot break. Avant. SW, whatever
@@bdeithrick wish they did a saloon version
The price (and the fact it’s not a bloody SUV) has me excited.
Agreed!
Speaking of only screenwash and brake fluid being visible... Anyone remembers Audi A2 from early 2000's? That one had bonnet bolted shut, with only the essential things (screenwash top-up, oil top-up and oil level probe) available behind tilting "grill".
The bonnet of the A2 wasn´t bolted shut. You could unlock it with two knobs and take it cpmpletely off.
Yeah, friend of mine has one 5 doors down. It's comical to twist the 2 retention nuts and lift the entire bonnet off 😂
Finally, an estate EV! Nice to see a dealer who really knows his product too
looks like a great package . excellent review, thanks.
Can't wait to see this...I can imagine myself in the Westminster Silver one of these in the next few months
Really enjoyed the video saw the review on the MG zs and pick up mine on Saturday morning really looking forward to my first EV .
I managed to get one of these for the day recently and found it a really nice drive, in fact I've even asked for pricing to possibly switch from our ZS I'm that impressed, very well put together and great range even in the cold weather. The only issue I had during the day was the car suffering from slow rapid charging, probably due to the cold weather (3C to 5C) but I was expecting more than 29kW at 60% SOC after seeing the high numbers that have been in circulation regards this car. I tested this with two different rapids, a 150kW Shell Recharge unit and a 50kW EH rapid.
Very impressive range given some of the dire ones we’ve seen recently!. This is the kind of range that gets me excited for the future. The only reason I write them off is the lack of miles given the time needed for a recharge. Tbh it’s impressive how quick the tech is coming on!
In Australia we call them a 'Station Wagon'. Nice car. Might be on my list in a few years if I sell my Ioniq. James drives like me, one thumb. haha.
The anticipation is killing me. Looking forward to it 👍
Chinese build quality is improving fast and at those prices this will sell.
James, the german shepherd dog owner thanks you ;-)
Great review thanks again.
Definitely going to recommended this car to my in-laws who are looking to replace their Vauxhall Meriva. I think the range might be enough to persuade then away from the hybrids under consideration. I nearly waited for this before buying my ZS but its just the styling I find abit bland.
There is absolutely a gap in the market for this. As a Kia Ceed Estate driver, we’ve looked at all of the EVs so far and all have lacked the practicality which we’ve enjoyed from our Ceed SW. Can’t wait to take one of these for a spin - I think it could realistically replace both our Ceed and the Zoe.
I am at the exact same point, driving a leased Kia Ceed SW (Estate in the UK) and I just checked - the measurements are almost identical to the 2021 Kia Ceed SW, except that they seem to have used some of the space for the back seats and given up some of the boot space, compared to the Ceed.
This really has me excited since our current Ceed fits our needs perfectly as a family, and I can definitely see an MG5 as a viable alternative once the lease on the Ceed expires. I would prefer to stay with Kia (we are on our third Kia Ceed SW and have had nothing but good experiences with them), but if they don't do a proper electric version of the SW, the MG5 is a very strong contender.
@@AndersCMadsen do you use a roof rack at all? MG can't make up their minds whether the MG5 is allowed to have a roof rack fitted. Major deal breaker for us. I can no longer take MG as a brand seriously as a result - telling this to customers who already took delivery is a sick joke. Glad I waited.
@@AndrewEbling no, not at all, so roof rack or not makes no difference to me.
That being said, I would like to be able to use a trailer or even a small caravan, but I'm painfully aware that it's a long shot - at least the caravan.
Just ordered a mg5ev thanks for the review, also came from Chorley motor group 👍
Awesome, thanks for the feedback. Also, white, the best colour 👍🏻
*Coughs and spits coffee out* HOW MUCH?! Frikkin sign me up!!
Nice review. I would like to see you review the MG HS PHEV.
We're in for a bright future. With Tesla pushing battery tech and MG pushing down EV prices.
Call me impressed, though probably a bit too big for me practically
Looks really good to me...a little big perhaps for private use but not as bulky as an SUV..good review thank you :)
I’m so excited...... and I just can’t hide it..... sorry went all 80s the looking forward to review.
Drove one today. Footwell a bit cramped as the floorpan a bit high with the battery underneath. If you're tall you can't raise the seat too much either - there would be roof space to sit higher but as the rear view mirror doesn't push up high enough it could badly block your view forward so you have to find the sweet spot for seat height and that's a little bit go-karty (low) especially if you are used to an SUV. Still, I did find a compromise that worked and I'm 6'4".The seats are comfy and supportive and not actually too low when you're getting in, and it drives very nicely to be fair. The speaker quality is absolutely terrible for audio. But for £10k cheaper than an eNiro I guess you can't complain (it'll annoy me tho). Not masses of places to put anything once you've filled the cup holders (no roof cubby for sunnies) but a couple of cheeky slots either side of the transmission (by your knee) to pop your phones - because you won't be looking at them while driving will you! Reversing camera good. Regen a bit weedy. Good value.
Need this in Australia!!
Global availability or UK only? What sort of efficiency did you get in Wh/km?
Thanks for the review. I don’t know if I should buy another petrol car before the 2030 clamp down or buy electric in a years time ?
Im currently driving a 2018 Mazda CX5 which is a fantastic car. However, I have wanted to move to electric and with Mazda strange decision that they want their upcoming car to be like its combustion sisters I decided I would have to look elsewhere. I initially wanted something similar in size at a decent price so took a test drive in a MG ZS. While the car was good it was getting close to the minimum mileage I would need. I decided to take the MG5 out for a run as its 200 + mileage gave me that little bit more confidence. I have to say that I was very pleasantly surprised. It was quieter than the ZS, a bit more comfortable and most surprising of all I thought the seating despite not being an SUV, gave me the same sort of vantage. If i was to give it any down marks I would say the lack of a compatible app and the lack of I Pilot was its biggest feelings but at the price it was hard to argue. Needless to say I put a deposit down on one and now there is quite a bit of wait to get it in the colour i wanted (Silver) still it will give me something to look forward to.
Excited and curious :)
Do we have an update for this? What it's like to live with for X days? How does it compare to the zS and other family EVs? Do you prefer the extra space and fittings Vs less equipment (MG pilot and sunroof etc)?
James, really good review! Really like MG 5 . Question what is rear suspension setup? Multilink or torsion bar?
Basic torsion beam rear end on this one.
I'm not saying I regret getting an MG ZS EV... but look at this one. The zs was a great deal but this is amazing. 200 mile range would be more than enough for me.
agree... that that 40m makes a huge difference in the amount of times u have to stop mid journey for a charge
Great review - there’s plenty of demand still for an estate. I’m looking for a proper practical
Electric MPV that doesn’t cost the earth - not an SUV - as they don’t have the flexibility or practicality that I need. Hopefully I won’t have to wait forever.....
Do the rear seat swabs lift up to allow a flat floor?
I can tell it's fairly quiet because I can hear you both talking clearly, and you're barely raising your voices.
I will be looking for a EV around Xmas time, will this vehicle be available then? i Typed this message before the end of the video, it answered my question lol. thanks for the insight.
Nice. 👋. Will it get to the mainland of Europe too. The ZS is doing quite well in some northern European countries. 🤔
Hi, thanks for your review, we found them very useful. We have a question for you. We have the MG5 long range and recently went on a family holiday from Sheffield to Weymouth. Our first long trip. Only needed to charge a couple of times using the CCS fast chargers at motorway service stations. We have found once we it home that the range has massively reduced from 280 miles (ish) to 210 miles. Panic! Is this normal, or has something happened to the battery? Thanks in anticipation! Tess and Jo
That's a perfect fleet car.
No MG pilot which is a shame. Does it have timed charging and is a type 2 cable included in the price (in my view this should never be an extra)
Nice channel btw
Did you shoot the last few shots in log and forget to grade it? Interesting vehicle. Strange that it’s top of the line but doesn’t include MG Pilot.
Hi James if ingot a discount on one these from a dealer some way from me, would I be able to have it serviced at home?
It has been confirmed that in May 2021 MG Pilot will be added and a possible exterior styling tweak.
Unfortunately MG Pilot can't be retrofitted to the current model.
Thanks for the info John Douglas. Unfortunately here in Ireland there are no MG dealerships apart from one or two in Nothern Ireland. I would certainly holdout till May for the MG Pilot.
How about blind spot warning.? That's a must have for me.
Thanks for sharing this 3 years ago , im now looking to buy one as my leaf 20 needs an upgrade. They seem to have gone from £30k to 10k and now theirs loads with about 80k miles . Ive seen your reviews and seems these are good cars for many more miles. Ill get looking on autotrader :) i see the 62kwh battery ones start from 13k is it a much better car? Thanks for sharing
Can you add a towbar on this? If yes, how much weight can it tow?
Sadly not. 0 Kg towing capacity listed on the website. :-(
It’s a pity it doesn’t have adaptive cruise control, but does it have pre cabin heating?
no, I'm afraid not.
Unless I remember incorrectly did you say the mgzs regens only on its brakes, if so is this mg5 regening on its motor or is it the same.
That's a good point, the ZS uses friction brakes when. ACC is on, but regen operates when ACC is off. As the 5 has basic cruise control will it regen when that is operated?
Will MG sell this car in central Europe?
According to saic it build on a Gm D2xx platform
Which we know as the vauxhall astra estate.
When will the mobile application be added?
Any plans to do MG5 LR range test??
Will james make an apearance ?
155 hp with 180 km/h top speed, 7.3 seconds.... thats Alfa 155 2.5 V6 from 30 years ago. Nice work, and nice price. What about European sales? Austria?
Killing time whilst my wife's MG ZS 1.8 we've had from new was having it's annual MoT test ( it passed ), I wandered along to the close by MG Motor Showroom. Lots of MG EVs there but what caught my eye were two MG5s in the main showroom display area. Had a close look at both.
My own daily driver for the past six years has been an MG ZT-T 1.8T. A very useful workhorse and still a nice place to be and drive as ordinary cars go. Lets face it, most cars are ordinary. We also have and nine year old MG6 1.8 TSE GT in the family fleet. These Chinese MGs are much better "ordinary" cars than for whatever reason, UK car consumers we led to believe they were by some of the Motor Media journos. My hands on experience of three MG6s now shows these are indeed much better means of getting about than some would have us believe when they first appeared.
Based on what I saw and the favourable reports on UA-cam, if and when my old ZT-T needs to be replaced ~ It's an estate ... like the MG5 .. whatever happened to the Estate car? Killed off by the multiplicity of SUV/Crossover lookalikes which now infest UK roads. None of those appeal and never will. The MG5 does.
These Chinese built MGs appear to be selling in my UK neck of the woods and elsewhere in many other parts of the World too. My immediate next door neighbour recently had a charging point fixed on his garage wall. A new shiny MG ZS EV is now parked there. It carries a personal plate which previously was on a Lexus and Mercedes... Think about that. Car consumers like them.
The "Electric" MG5 is the nearest car to an Old School Rover 75 "Tourer" or the MG ZT-T "Estate" to be offered so far to my way of thinking. Suits me Sir ... Double 👍..👍from me ..
Thanks for your comment. I also had an MG ZT, not the tourer. Diesel Auto with Webasto heater, auto rear blind, TV and just about everything you could imagine. I loved it. The 5 is very different, but it's a very very good EV. Let us know how it goes if you test drive one 👍🏻
So much for people not driving estates, I counted seven, going in the same direction as you in just that short trip.
Any indications of an MG App due to be released in the near future?
it would need an additional communications module to be fitted afterwards
Estate cars, always the sensible vehicle, SUVs not so much.
I wouldn’t want to be found dead in one.
@@tsaszymborska7389
What! The chances are you will be seen dead in an Estate.... Unless they fold you in half when you shuffle off the mortal coil..🤔
@@G-Cam1 I've put in my will that my hearse needs to be a vintage car, not some modern volvo or ford!
@@G-Cam1 LOL. I meant an SUV. I like the Estate!
Sorry to say Roger if your statement was correct why is the roads full of SUV,s and very few estate cars, the manufacturers don’t seem to believe that is the case as production is predominantly SUV or Crossover vehicles.
This looks really nice - how does the range compare to a 40kw Zoe at motorway speeds (70mph)? (I get 120-130 miles depending on conditions). Any rumours of a bigger battery in the near future? This is definitely a contender to replace my Zoe with in the next couple of years.
it should get ~200 miles from the sounds of it .
@@AdrianMcDaid That doesn't seem feasible given the quoted battery size and efficiency? 52.5kw @ 3.6 mpkw = 189 miles, and that quoted 3.6mpkw is for combined driving, not at a constant 70mph. To get 200 miles from a charge @ 70mph it would have to be more efficient than an Ioniq (widely regarded as the most efficient EV at present). Not impossible, but unlikely for something which appears to be quite a bit bigger!
Tow hitch?
I hope MG will release smaller cars too in the near future. Both the SUV and this car are impressive for the amount of money you pay! Oh and MG, please please improve your website. There’s hardly any info on it and I can’t change the language.
Yes, there are a huge number of small and really cheap EVs available in China and it would be great to see something small and cheap over here I am sure it would sell well.
This looks great and far more practical for most people than an SUV, with very attractive pricing. Tempting! One question, can it tow a trailer or caravan?
I would like towing information
Are the seats wider than the ZS? Was there enough width for your knees not to be touching the centre console? That's an issue I have with the ZS?
No, it's the same
@@Hyfly13 Since I asked the question I have driven an MG 5 and ordered one.
For me I found the seats more comfortable and the addition of reach adjustment allows a better driver position for people like me with long legs.
@@johndouglas770 yeah sure, I'll test one again - it was quite nice once I'd found a position that worked. Knees knocking the "transmission" but not uncomfortable.
Can you tow with this?
Can you get the MG 5 with adaptive cruise control?
not yet
Just love this car
1:04 Is that seat folded as far as it goes? They need to fold flat on an estate car.
I don’t think I like reviews done with a company rep in the car. It seems less independent. That’s not really a comment on this particular video - but it did make me take the review with a pinch of salt. I want to hear what you don’t like as much as what you do, and I don’t feel like we had much of anything in the way of negatives.
I agree. James' conversation is different when the rep is in the car.
Does it regen when you press the brake pedal lightly? I’ve got used to this in my egolf and wouldn’t want to go back to actual brakes!
It goes into re-gen when you lift off the go fast pedal... you dont even need to touch the brakes!
G Cam but can you coast when you lift off and regen with the brake? I find it more natural
@@Zimpaz nope. Coasting is a total waste of energy. While you might want that you would be in a very small club of EV coasters... Probably with a membership of just 1.
And coasting is technically 'not being in control of a motor vehicle' ie out of gear foot off the brake....
@@Zimpaz PS.. you can set the re-gen in the MG from mild to medium to maximum... 👍
@it'slosenotloose Interesting.... But Im not following your logic? If that were truly the universal case and argument why are all EVs not simply DC? Regen would not be available so would by your reckoning be more efficient? OR are you talking about riding the brakes VS proper Re-Gen?
There are no companies making DC motor EVs simply as they are so uneconomic.. ie they recover no kinetic energy.
Its a much more appealing car than the ZS Pretty compelling.
Raising the front of the seat squab is a plus over the ZS.
Would have liked MG Pilot
Not impressed with a review that promises testing the "real world range" and the last percentage figure we hear is 94% and the second from last sentence is "Range wise, it will be good to see what we finish the day with..." - yes it would be good to see. I don't think I'm being unrealistic to expect a run from 100% to closer to 10% or lower when doing a real world range test.
Just wait for Bjorns review, all those UK reviews are mainly marketing stuff
@@paulf3353 alas, I mostly agree, although I wouldn't paint EVM with that brush.
I hope the bigger battery, climate control, charge door design,, lumbar support, steering reach adjustment, auto mirror, better driver display etc comes to the ZS EV sometime soon. And for the love of God give us an app to preheat and cool the car.
When can downunder get this Estate.
Never Dan Di. Unless you guys vote out your present government.
Why no adaptive cruise? My ZS EV has it, why have they not fitted it?
Maybe their market research showed that the fleet/taxi market aren't willing to pay for this feature... that's reserved for executive cars?
@@PaulMansfieldI have a feeling that it will not be just the fleet/taxi market looking. Many people want an estate, dog owners and people who want to carry invalid scooters come to immediate mind. Cant help thinking this is a step backwards. Pity, there are a number of steps forward with this car.
How about an App - have MG got one sorted thats usable in the UK?
No-one ever answered this for you, but the answer is "no" and it's going to stay that way - the car has no connectivity for an app. It was the only thing that almost put me off buying, but in the end I went for it and six weeks later I have no regrets.
@@littlebluepanda394 Thanks but an app exists in Thailand for MGs - look out for MG videos on Bjorn Nylands channel, he shows the app working.
@@rtfazeberdee3519 Yes, the MGs in other locations have the 3G connection, but the UK spec ones don't, so no app for us I'm afraid :(
@@littlebluepanda394 aha.. i didn't realise no 3g was the shortcoming.
Miles/kwh?
Does it have a heat pump?
Is there an app?
Just over 200 miles from a 52kwh battery means it must be pretty much bang on 4miles/kwh
This is superb value. My only issue is the fact it has no active safety features other than ESP. No AEB, lane keep, adaptive cruise etc. MG have also stopped offering MG Pilot on the facelifted ZS in the UK, which means no AEB.
Only the HS has AEB available on the top spec Exclusive, via its MG Pilot.
No AEB is unforgivable these days.
@Christopher Tait 👍😁
Hi James,
Great review. I recently test drove both the ZS and the 5. I prefer the comfort and styling of the ZS but I think the 5 is a more refined product where they’ve reacted to feedback on the ZS and manufactured out some quirks.
Best uk EV channel hands down. Thanks James!
Nice looking car pity it's not made in the UK !
Good ground clearance for an E vehicle.
Hate these premier video's closing up the subscriptions feed on UA-cam, what's the point???
They're under embargo until the date shown by MG. We don't normally use this method. You only have 2 days to wait, it'll be worth it
@@Jamesandkate How is the fight going to get your Tesla fixed properly James. Hopefully your video has shocked them into finally doing something about it.
Me too, you see the thumbnail in the subscription section, go to play the video and then find it’s not actually there. What’s the point being a subscriber if they clog up your subscription with these? UA-cam really needs to have a way of opting out of these.
@@Jamesandkate You may think "it's just one more Premier video, whats the difference?" However my subscription pages are filling up with these and I've had enough of them. I'm temporarily unsubscribing from any channel using them and will review them in a few months time. If their still using this method I'll stay away. There are plenty of channels not doing it, so I have choice. Just a heads up that this unwelcome "UA-cam feature" is starting to have an effect on how some people view content.
John Heaton It’s only like a trailer 🤷♂️ is it such a hardship to unsubscribe over?
This is 27,495 pounds and the Enyaq iV is 33,450 pounds so it will be very interesting to see which sells better. The Enyaq will probably have better depreciation so might be more attractive with PCP contracts. Enyaq looks more modern and has VAG quality and is built in Europe. You can then subtract 3,000 pounds on both.
There are VW group bits in the MG.. look closely and you will see...
I wonder why? LOL... Perhaps because SAIC make VW in China! The batteries are also from the same (Chinese source) company!
And SAIC have no emissions scandal! over the last few years I have switched off from VAG
Give me the MG any day..
The £27495 is AFTER the £3000 grant I'm afraid!
@@NewmanAutomotive Not according to the mg.co.uk website, go and check yourself. After the grant it is 24,495 pounds.
@@G-Cam1 I fully understand why you would not buy anything from VAG after the emissions scandal. I will also not buy a Chinese car while its current regime is in power for moral reasons. Where I have no choice, I do buy some Chinese goods such as electronics etc. However, where I have a choice such as in the purchase of a car, I prefer that my money goes to a democratic country. I would rather cycle or catch a bus than buy a Chinese car currently.
@@marcusevjourney566 Ah I see we're talking at cross purposes, yes, that's correct for the entry level car, but not for the Exclusive as tested here. :)
Range test... and what is the range?
Driver has lumber and steering wheel has reach rake. 👍
It’s a shame the boot isn’t cleverer. People don’t just buy estates because of the bigger boot; they buy them because they are more flexible, too. Those seats don’t really fold flat and there’s quite a large load lip which is a shame. As you say, can imagine it mainly being a taxi. If it wasn’t an EV we are probably looking at a £16k Dacia rival here, I reckon. Nice interior too, just a shame about the placement of the infotainment screen. This will surely pave a positive few steps for MG, though...
Is it able to tow?
I wondered about towing, I can't find a mention of it but there are a few updates coming next year, so hopefully the a tow pack can be added then. At least there are a few affordable cars coming out next year with towbars, Nissan Ariya and ID4, both unfortunately are SUVs, so an estate is a lot more aerodynamic. Not forgetting the Sono Motors Sion, which also has a towbar and is also due out next year and isn't an SUV!!
@@SheepShearerMike yeah, no suv for me, ice or bev, no matter.
No adaptive cruise is a big mistake. And how are you getting on with the tesla James?
Yeah, this, what the hell??? No autonomous features, thats a big let down. Once u drive an ev you would go back to ice but equally once you have ACC and steering assist, its hard to let them go. Seems like a regressive step
Hi James,
As always, an excellent video!
On a slightly different topic, but still about MG. Have you seen any of the videos uploaded by Dave Newberry? He is an MG ZS EV owner like you. He's having some real problems with his car. I'm not sure if he is a garage owner, but he has done a couple of videos at a garage where he inspected the underside of his car and what he shows is not good! There are several places where rust appears to be present at joints in the chassis. I think his car is about as old as yours, so I thought that I would give you a heads-up in case this is a more widespread problem. I'm disappointed, because I had more or less decided that my next car would be the ZS EV. Keep up the good work that you and Kate do! Phil
I can't believe it doesn't come with AEB.
the problem with estate car sales is trying to buy one used! ones bought for family use are kept forever until they begin to break down, and ex-business ones are often very high mileage even though they might be only two or three years old.
Yep. Our pool car at work is 67 plate Škoda Octavia estate, and it has over 200 000 miles on it already. Ironically, I always see it parked. But than again, I only walk pass it twice a day
Please don't have a vendor reviewing their own car; we need your independent perspective reviewing it.
Probably along for insurance reasons more than anything, but he gave some good information as well. An independent road test comes later I'm sure. This is more of an introduction.
I hope estate cars become fashionable again. This time electric ones.
Having watched both the videos again, I'm in a quandary. I like the dash layout, the 5th headrest, and the extra range is a huge plus point. But I'm leaning more towards the ZS because of the styling, ground clearance and massive sunroof. Lacking the extra bells and whistles of the driver aids, whilst not a deal breaker, is unusual, given the natural environment will be on the motorway.
Personally think the ZS is beating it by a whisker, even with the lower range. But regardless, it's increasing the available choices, and that can only be a good thing...even if it does make picking a new car even trickier 🤦♂️
MG are smart enough to offer a good product at a decent price. Prefer the estate to the SUV.
Teslas are a game changer in tech terms but real life people cannot afford to waste money now. The other manufacturers do kot get that and think you can spend 30k on a second car.
I WANT ONE .
Did I hear no adaptive cruise or MG Pilot :( . can these be an option ?
I thought that I heard that too. Shame. That's a deal breaker for me.
@@DopeyDalek it was allgettng very exciting till that point . Oh well hopefully they will bring an upgraded model out next year or two . Still got 3 yrs lease but mg5 was close to making me chop in n early ... Never mind ...
No mg pilot though? Mg zs Ev has a massive advantage over this!!
Maybe their market research showed that the fleet/taxi market aren't willing to pay for this feature... that's reserved for executive cars?