Flawless Cheap "Tudor Black Bay Homage"? San Martin SN004 Review

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  • @cheapwatchman_official
    @cheapwatchman_official  Рік тому +1

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  • @brokenchains
    @brokenchains Рік тому +16

    San Martin watches are great, really no reason to buy a Rolex (at inflated prices anyway) unless you want to brag to your friends, I just own and want too many watches and your channel really makes me want more.

    • @cheapwatchman_official
      @cheapwatchman_official  Рік тому +2

      Well said!

    • @macky181
      @macky181 Рік тому

      Unless you buy right and that watch becomes a want later on l, kinda like the old Daytonas they were like 10-15k, heavily undersold but now are worth like 60k.

    • @brokenchains
      @brokenchains Рік тому

      @@macky181 Very true, if only I still had my 2002 Submariner, paid $3400 brand new back then, sold it to buy a guitar

    • @user-tx4wj7qk4t
      @user-tx4wj7qk4t Місяць тому

      @@macky181 Nearly no watches are like that and the market collapsed recently. Maybe get better investments and spend that money on actual investments instead instead of tying it up in a watch?

  • @TheSuttdaddy
    @TheSuttdaddy Рік тому

    Just bought this one and I love it. Great review.

  • @nickdellagrotta
    @nickdellagrotta Рік тому

    My man. I found your channel and instantly became a fan. 1. I'm a metalhead. 2. I love watches. 'Nuff said! Great content my brother... 🤘🖖🙏

  • @ginom407
    @ginom407 Рік тому

    Great Review Randy! I've added San Martin to my list!!! 👍

  • @claycox5285
    @claycox5285 Рік тому

    Just found your channel. I really enjoyed your thorough review. Thank you

  • @MyCvid
    @MyCvid Рік тому +7

    Randy, just to let you know, this watch is available with a no logo/ custom logo option. You can also get a high-beat movement (PT-5000 or SW200) with the model number SN008G; same watch more expensive movement options. Of course, more money.
    I’ve subscribed. Enjoying the reviews so far. You gotta get some level of “affiliation” with theses watch companies so they will start SENDING you watches for FREE to review on your channel.

  • @JohnScheppler
    @JohnScheppler Рік тому +2

    Another great quality white gloved watch with a extra value. Thanks for bringing us this excellent time keepers.

  • @Avaddon911
    @Avaddon911 Рік тому +2

    Excellent looking watch. I've always loved the black bay but I can't afford it. I can't wait to pick this one up!

  • @andromedagodit2492
    @andromedagodit2492 Рік тому +1

    Totally agree that quality n joy of a watch isn't determined by the price...
    Niiice review man... Might wanna include a lume shot next time. 😉
    Thanks ever so much. 😊👍

  • @macky181
    @macky181 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic review.

  • @gregcarterfineart
    @gregcarterfineart Рік тому

    I want this in blue, with the SW200. Still good value at $450 I think! Nice review.

  • @TerrySteiner
    @TerrySteiner 6 місяців тому +1

    I had a San Martin "Retro Water Ghost" that I ordered directly from their website. I asked how much to include a few extra links. They included extras without charging me.
    I would recommend ordering direct rather than Amazon. I got it from China fairly fast. Their shipping dept even sent me a photo of my actual watch prior to shipment.
    I kept it for 2 years before moving it on. It was a great watch just a little small for me. I like smaller watches but my particular model just felt small.

  • @donmongoose
    @donmongoose Рік тому +8

    Whilst I'm trying to avoid buying straight up imitation watches like these, San Martin really are amazing for the level of quality in terms of machining and finishing, the bracelets alone put brands like Seiko to shame. I know they've released a few original designs, if they keep pushing in that direction they'll hit the next level.

  • @goldfools5445
    @goldfools5445 Рік тому +4

    I have this 004 in blue. Sensational.
    I don’t care about it being a homage.

  • @scaramuzza9
    @scaramuzza9 Рік тому

    Keep up the good work fella 👍 watching from the UK

  • @garyz0611
    @garyz0611 Рік тому +1

    San Martin just came out with 39mm GMT Tudor homage with date….looks sweet

  • @davidprather9079
    @davidprather9079 Рік тому +1

    I need to give this brand a look. Thanks for your excellent review! Lately I’ve been grabbing some Orients. They’ve got some winners in their entry level line up.

    • @LymanPhillips
      @LymanPhillips Рік тому

      These definitely curb-stomp Orient. Orient has an in-house movement, and original designs, but SM beats them on everything else. I've had a couple of Orients and I never felt about them like I do about my SM watches.

  • @MarkM58
    @MarkM58 Рік тому +2

    I have the blue one and love it. These are great watches for the money.

  • @kenweller2032
    @kenweller2032 Рік тому +1

    Really nice! I'd prefer a PT5000 movement, however.

  • @thewatchmission7693
    @thewatchmission7693 Рік тому

    Dude...i had no idea you started a watch channel!!!! Woohoo! I follow you on both channels, always loved all your audio stuff!

  • @Man_Ray78
    @Man_Ray78 Рік тому

    Just got the sn 004-g for 152 dollars with coupons and on the november sale on aliexpress. Its at the post office, gonna get it tomorrow.

  • @rupertbailey1666
    @rupertbailey1666 4 місяці тому

    You can ask them to supply an extra link if you've got a large wrist!

  • @drebarthelotte5712
    @drebarthelotte5712 Рік тому +1

    san Martin's are awsome. they are perfect for normal people. good enough without wasting money. all my San Martin's are 👍

  • @johnswatchjoint
    @johnswatchjoint Рік тому +2

    Hi there. Totally agree with you. Reviewed this on my channel a few weeks ago. Stunning finish for the price. Really weird to see you doing watch reviews as I have been watching your audio channel for the last year or so. Keep up the good work :)

    • @cheapwatchman_official
      @cheapwatchman_official  Рік тому +2

      thanks, man! I always wanted to start a second channel and watches just made sense. Thanks for watching both channels. I'll check out yours.

    • @johnswatchjoint
      @johnswatchjoint Рік тому +1

      @@cheapwatchman_official Thanks...remember, once you start...the wormhole just keeps going deeper...!

  • @angpham1173
    @angpham1173 Рік тому

    they just got a newer version with the exact design+movement in a 40mm case, I bet it would fit you even better since your wrist is quite big

  • @paratrooper2002
    @paratrooper2002 Рік тому

    Hello sir, what do you think about the 40mm version of this watch? I have a 7-inch wrist, and I like both the 38mm and the 40mm of this watch, but I like the coin edge and movement option with the 40mm a little better but wondering if the 38mm would be a better fit for my wrist size. Thanks!

  • @larsjungnell1969
    @larsjungnell1969 Рік тому

    Hej och tack för en trevlig video, har naturligtvis sett dina andra videos på San Martin, köpte efter dessa video en SM bb 58 med nh 35 och den går otroligt bra, ca 2 sek per dag. Nåväl, du tycker vissa mid inte linarupp perfekt, det här jag även märkt på in, linjerna på bezel kl 5 o 7 är lite till vänster, efter mycket vridande och tittande i olika vinklar tröja att etta beror på brytning i glaset, min teori, tack för bra video. ❤❤❤

  • @Matt_Barnes
    @Matt_Barnes Рік тому +1

    I was so close to going with San Martin's Pepsi bezel GMT, then I saw this Black Bay homage and really liked it but I've never been the biggest fan of the Tudor hand set (feels like Tudor just said "I know, let's just put squares on it!"). Eventually I went with the Phoibos Voyager with the black & gold dial, whose aesthetic feels very close to this watch. Only differences that really jump out are the date complication, different bezel function and beads of rice bracelet. San Martin's so packed with value though, they're on the short list for my next automatic. Especially now that they've finally come around to consistently using the same brand logo throughout an entire watch design.

    • @JimJenness
      @JimJenness Рік тому +1

      I'm with you, Matt. I really don't care for the versions with the square indices.

  • @richardthomas3056
    @richardthomas3056 Рік тому

    That’s going on the list! Thanks for the review. I won’t mention high end speaker cables. 😂

  • @davidbailey6350
    @davidbailey6350 Рік тому

    I watch your other channel all the time, and I greatly enjoy this one also. I probably have close to 50 watches, nothing elaborate, but I will never buy a battery operated watch ever again. It’s either going to be a manual wind up type, and automatic, or some sort of light charging system. And I wear my watch every single day or every single thing I do. And they do get beat up. but that’s why they make scotch bright.!

  • @ramspencer5492
    @ramspencer5492 Рік тому

    Should have gone with clear AR coating.... I also would love San Martin to start using matte ceramic inserts for more vintage inspired watches.

  • @adamant262
    @adamant262 Рік тому

    I think ur doing well with the channel. 👍

  • @joelfallon1958
    @joelfallon1958 Рік тому +3

    Nice looking watch, not a fan of the TBB at it's price, but for 250 or less this could be a keeper.

  • @palemale2501
    @palemale2501 8 місяців тому

    Do folk realise that with a 120 click bezel, the triangle marker can only be 1/4 minute off the minute markers at maximum - at my age I would need a magnifying glass to notice it lol

  • @brianmckibben2300
    @brianmckibben2300 Рік тому

    I put those hands on my Invicta with a Milgauss second hand. mod cost under 20 bucks on an 80 dollar watch

  • @JimJenness
    @JimJenness Рік тому +4

    I love the look of this watch too. I have had the SN008 for about a year and a half now. I went ahead and got the SW200 Swiss movement. So it was quite a bit more. The movement is a bit hard and grindy to wind. But it runs great and looks great. Check that one out, Randy. And I have the San Martin SN017 Submariner homage, with the NH35A movement. Like it a lot too. Really like your channel. Keep it up!

    • @Matt_Barnes
      @Matt_Barnes Рік тому +1

      I came so close to pulling the trigger on the SN0005-GMT before going with a Phoibos Voyager I'd had my eye on for a while.

  • @irishwatchenthusiast6647
    @irishwatchenthusiast6647 Рік тому

    I have both the gilt and blue versions of this watch. I honestly find myself wearing them more than any of my other watches (and I own a Milgauss). The build quality is excellent, and comfort on the wrist is superb. The only niggle I have is that the spring action on the crown of the blue one is very stiff, and occasionally stops the crown engaging. Obviously I'm a huge fan of the BB58, and these watches have very effectively scratched that itch. The 38.5mm dial is perfect - it's a vintage homage, after all, and the indices/hands are beautifully applied and finished. This is for my money better than the SN008, as the watch is closer to the original, considerably cheaper, more handsome aesthetically, and the movement is possibly more reliable than the P5000.
    The branding is always going to come down to personal preference, but I like the Hex logo, and this printed version is more discreet/'classy' than the applied version on the SM008. The SN004LE is without doubt the best watch you can buy for under $250. In fact, it may well be the best watch you can buy in terms of VFM at any price.

  • @jonboy8181
    @jonboy8181 Рік тому

    Nice watch. I actually like the logo. Side note, if I close my eyes it’s sound like I’m listening to Jeff Daniels talk about a San Martin watch!

  • @JumpingWatermelons
    @JumpingWatermelons Рік тому +1

    I wish they would make a better Pelagos homage

  • @jirikrajnak9047
    @jirikrajnak9047 Рік тому

    Show the Air King. 34mm? Five digit reference? I had a blue 3 - 6 - 9 dial with the engine turned bezel, 14010. The most handsome watch I've owned.

    • @cheapwatchman_official
      @cheapwatchman_official  Рік тому +1

      yeah. I should have shown it. I think it's a 34mm. It's a bit small on my wrist but my dad gave it to me so I'll always have it here. Even if I never wear it

  • @jamescarroll9153
    @jamescarroll9153 Рік тому +1

    Check out the Steeldive sd1970 - but get it with the waffle rubber strap - awesome watch

    • @cheapwatchman_official
      @cheapwatchman_official  Рік тому

      I'll check it out

    • @kenweller2032
      @kenweller2032 Рік тому

      I got one off their Alibaba shop for about $85. They had a very nice waffle strap for $15 to go with it.

  • @khonjel_singh
    @khonjel_singh Рік тому +7

    To me Black Bay homages are always a missed opportunity. They're so close but always miss being a Rolex Milsub homage. Specially this one you reviewed. It's all there. Crown guard delete, no cyclops, no calender. Only thing missing is the milsub bezel insert.

    • @jamlove2020
      @jamlove2020 Рік тому

      And where would they put the cyclops? The 12 o'clock indices?

    • @khonjel_singh
      @khonjel_singh Рік тому +1

      @@jamlove2020 why would you need or even want a cyclops? It's one of the most hideous aspect of submariner homages.

    • @jamlove2020
      @jamlove2020 Рік тому

      @@khonjel_singh yes I'm onboard with that, I misunderstood what you meant.

    • @glen193
      @glen193 Рік тому +1

      They now - just recently - have a mil-sub version of this model (sword hands, milsub bezel). I just ordered it. I also have the black/gilt dial BB58 homage reviewed here, as well as the blue dial version. Fantastic watch.

  • @danstein2467
    @danstein2467 Рік тому

    Thanks for another great watch recommendation. This is the spitting image of the Tudor. Tudor is the bargain Rolex... And the San Martin is the bargain Tudor.

  • @kelleredward6153
    @kelleredward6153 Рік тому

    I find it interesting that you don't like the logo. For me, it harkens back to the logos of the Italian dive watch manufacturers of the 60s and 70s. It is one of the few logos of the Chinese made micro brands that I like (I hate the Steel Dive logo). I find the GMT with the jubilee bracelet especially interesting - any chance you could review this?

  • @juniorjohnson5961
    @juniorjohnson5961 Рік тому +3

    I just can't buy homage that are of existing watches if there of discontinued watches I'm ok .

  • @amc8241
    @amc8241 Рік тому

    Great watch but really can't have the logo

  • @jodysilvia2
    @jodysilvia2 Рік тому

    San martin watches are everywhere, for a community that swears to hate counterfeit/ copies of watches cozy up to the these copies with no problem.

  • @ordinaryjoe2247
    @ordinaryjoe2247 Рік тому

    Ok, yes, I admit that this looks like a very nice watch. But it's yet another diver. Is this the Cheap Diver Watch Man channel? Or am I missing field watches and such in the content? It's possible that all the videos coming up in my feed from this channel happen to be divers. So I apologize if the others are out there and I haven't seen them. Thanks!

  • @talkingabouttime1622
    @talkingabouttime1622 Рік тому

    Randy, I love your audio content and your perspective and also clearly am super into watches. However, I feel like I need to be a little critical from a place of respect for you. I feel like so far your channel is a missed opportunity. There are great non homage watches in the price range of this and the other watches you have featured that offer a great value for the money. There are watches that are originals that aren't benefiting from the status other brands and are building something of their own worthy of respect. There are great microbrands making original designs that could use your reach and promotion. San martin and Pagani and steel dive don't need any more help promoting the work that they borrowed from the big boys. Also as a legit fan, I expected more when I saw you pop up as a watch channel. I follow your audio content because I find the hidden gems that I can get for a great value. So far I am not getting that here, except the seagull chronograph that thing is incredible and a legend in its own right. This comes from a place of respect because I love your point of view and your voice and feel like you could provide a real value to the watch market by being the cheap watch man, not the homage watch man. Just my 2c.

  • @unwokeneuropean3590
    @unwokeneuropean3590 Рік тому

    Those snowflake hands are a flaw in itself :)

  • @juniorjohnson5961
    @juniorjohnson5961 Рік тому

    The reason the bezel action feels similar to the Squale is there both made in China.

    • @goldfools5445
      @goldfools5445 Рік тому

      Are you saying “in the same factory”
      Or does china made have a certain bezel sound?

  • @scatterbrain9490
    @scatterbrain9490 Рік тому

    👍

  • @sap1281
    @sap1281 Рік тому

    What is the line between a 'homage' and a cheap copy with a different logo? That's just a Chinese copy of a Black Bay 58. It's not a nod to the BB, it doesn't take inspiration from the BB, it's a zero thought copy. They even copied the case back. For me it's tough to get behind that practice.

  • @TheCdM1981
    @TheCdM1981 Рік тому

    So it’s a homage of a homage. 😊

  • @mikegraves3497
    @mikegraves3497 9 місяців тому

    I received this watch yesterday , I ordered it taking a chance against my better judgement after listening to all these utube videos just like yours. I completely believe now you all are getting paid something to put these out there. The watch isn’t close to being a a decent watch or in any way comparable to the original. Every edge on this watch is sharp. The case , the bracelet , are terrible , I actually was worried about getting cut . The engraving on the bezel is terrible, the bezel does not align. This watch is exactly what I thought it would be before I got caught up in all these videos, a cheap Chinese copy and not a good one.

  • @fishlanding
    @fishlanding Рік тому +1

    it's just amazing what can be made in china, so I pass...... would like to see it made somewhere else....... can you dig it? good review tho

  • @Blayzn18
    @Blayzn18 Рік тому

    I'm not a fan of ghost functions.

  • @donutheist
    @donutheist Рік тому

    They're pretty much the same company.

  • @AndreAndre-yd5gw
    @AndreAndre-yd5gw Рік тому

    Rolex homage, not tudor.

  • @elonmuskrat2830
    @elonmuskrat2830 Рік тому

    Take your cheap watches and ram em where the sun don't shine.

  • @Fred-nv8gf
    @Fred-nv8gf Рік тому

    That is value!