The Quietest and Most Satisfying Round We Have Ever Shot

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  • @HumanThePerson
    @HumanThePerson Рік тому +5284

    The lore from garand thumb is better than most films produced in the past 3 years

    • @ceaton39
      @ceaton39 Рік тому +157

      Seriously. Someone needs to compile a Documentary titled "The Ballad of Flannel-Daddy"

    • @Youtube-Censorship-Police
      @Youtube-Censorship-Police Рік тому +38

      explains why i constantly hang around on this channel and never went to the cinema in the last few years😄

    • @djdrack4681
      @djdrack4681 Рік тому +40

      He was trained by John Wick, and his SERE training involved Agent 47 as the enemy combatant.

    • @spylingual8573
      @spylingual8573 Рік тому +13

      30* years

    • @VinceAikens
      @VinceAikens Рік тому +24

      Hollyweird sucks. Dang so called perverted writers can stay on strike forever. Lol

  • @adamsolomon9353
    @adamsolomon9353 Рік тому +1414

    I would listen to you talk about (in anger) for 5 hours about the VA. Please hold them accountable, you have the platform

    • @Saanonymous80
      @Saanonymous80 Рік тому +52

      At least it's not the Canadian VA

    • @PariahSixx
      @PariahSixx Рік тому

      The shit that the Canadian VA is pulling with coercing vets into euthanasia who are mentally incapable of properly agreeing to something of such a magnitude is absolutely sickening. @@Saanonymous80

    • @danielleroberts8964
      @danielleroberts8964 Рік тому +65

      They just offer you assistance to die. What an unbelievable disgrace.

    • @snafu4405
      @snafu4405 Рік тому +47

      The VA murdered my father. 2 tours in Vietnam, 27 years LEO. Not to mention the emotional toll on my family.

    • @ScottWaa
      @ScottWaa Рік тому

      ​@@snafu4405the VA (and our leadership) treats our vets terrible. They used Agent Org in Vietnam knowing that it was toxic, yet 50 years later the US government still is fighting against vets for proper treatment. My dad is one of them.

  • @MrMetallica43
    @MrMetallica43 Рік тому +2725

    Garand:"8.6 through 3 blocks, please stop."
    The 8.6 round :"How bout nooo" 😂

    • @Nurse_Xochitl
      @Nurse_Xochitl Рік тому +88

      8.6mm Blackout is like a honey badger that don't care, on steroids.
      I love it! I bet it would probably work decently on 2A infringers.

    • @SPIRIT-117
      @SPIRIT-117 Рік тому +58

      "please stop"
      8.6BLK
      *bugs bunny no meme*

    • @RealMTBAddict
      @RealMTBAddict Рік тому +2

      Bullets talk?

    • @hbomatt
      @hbomatt Рік тому +34

      This is actually a bad thing. No expansion means 5.56 will do more damage to a human

    • @nfaisnfgay
      @nfaisnfgay Рік тому +1

      @@Nurse_Xochitllolberts wanting to arm the enemy. What a doormat ideology

  • @nicholasdowd5793
    @nicholasdowd5793 Рік тому +1492

    After seeing the RIDICULOUS penetration from that crazy fast twist, I really want to see this put through a battery of tests for barrier penetration. I'm talking sheet metal, windshields, solid wood door, plywood, exterior walls, even concrete block. Hell, toss in level 3a and level 3 body armor to the mix too. That would really drive home and give a great understanding of the real world penetration capabilities of this fascinating newer round.

    • @chrisviviano3271
      @chrisviviano3271 Рік тому +66

      I absolutely agree with this, I would love to see that test. I mean in all honesty, when in an urban scenario, you will be penetrating wood, concrete, cinderblock filled and empty, car doors, windows, windshields, armored glass, plate carriers, and drywall. I think this is a brilliant urban sniper, especially if it has massive penetration power! I’m sure once you break certain substances the round will be slowed and slightly pancaked making it a more damaging round after barrier break.

    • @nicholasdowd5793
      @nicholasdowd5793 Рік тому +12

      @chrisviviano3271 For sure. I think the applications in an urban setting for this round would be near limitless. I'm dying to see it tested lol.

    • @taraswertelecki3786
      @taraswertelecki3786 Рік тому +40

      Add to that how it penetrates ballistic helmets, thick metal, and vehicles. I suspect this cartridge will be proven in combat on the streets of Amerika during the coming civil war.

    • @uthopia27
      @uthopia27 Рік тому +19

      ​@@taraswertelecki3786my god man whts the matter with u 😅😅😅

    • @RollerCam
      @RollerCam Рік тому +5

      It won't be a factor. The time til' full breakdown is just too short. It's not even in the hands of 1% of all US shooters.

  • @ViaticalVash
    @ViaticalVash Рік тому +2771

    Everytime Mike asks Micha to describe an item and Micah just says what he thinks about it. You can see Mike die a little everytime.

    • @jakewebster5084
      @jakewebster5084 Рік тому +88

      lmao! The look of fatherly disappointment on that man's face...

    • @792slayer
      @792slayer Рік тому +44

      Yeah, but he got SDI right this time.

    • @debbiestimac5175
      @debbiestimac5175 Рік тому +26

      @@792slayer But he was dead wrong on the cowboy hat, it is so flattering on Mike, very manly and very chic... I bet his wife agrees heartily!

    • @jake1021
      @jake1021 Рік тому +36

      ​@@792slayeryour confusing Micah with Charlie

    • @chrysun9891
      @chrysun9891 Рік тому +2

      hey nice pfp

  • @k.compton8995
    @k.compton8995 Рік тому +783

    The VA has screwed so many over. Thanks for shining more light on the situation.

    • @wbrennan2253
      @wbrennan2253 Рік тому +17

      I did a 10 week pharmacy rotation at a VA while in college. Interesting place. And listening to some of the struggles now with trying to get care.😢

    • @AaronWilbers
      @AaronWilbers Рік тому +7

      My Father was DAV from Viet Nam and the state of the local VA hospital was awful. The first time I went in there I was stunned.

    • @Servoxyl
      @Servoxyl Рік тому +13

      I’m gonna sound stupid, but what does VA mean in this context?

    • @wbrennan2253
      @wbrennan2253 Рік тому +12

      Sadly, it is run as well as most government programs.

    • @Servoxyl
      @Servoxyl Рік тому +7

      @@spaceman624Thanks!

  • @adamgambescia9650
    @adamgambescia9650 Рік тому +1299

    That is ridiculous. I’ve never seen a round have this much penetrative power in ballistics gel . It cuts through like genuine butter. Amazing.

  • @ThornCreates
    @ThornCreates Рік тому +112

    Can we take a moment to appreciate how amazing the sound design was for the "Clever girl." scene from jurassic park, and how satisfying the sounds from loading the shots into the SPAS-12, to unfurling the stock was? That scene sticks out to me from every movie i've ever watched when it comes to satisfying and well thought out sound design. And kudos to you for refreshing that scene in my head.

  • @b_ites8680
    @b_ites8680 Рік тому +646

    8.6 is an absolute unit, its so crazy.

    • @fairlanemuscle
      @fairlanemuscle Рік тому +11

      Laughs in 45 Raptor

    • @K-bob_45
      @K-bob_45 Рік тому +4

      8.6 is a sissy round

    • @beandip9824
      @beandip9824 Рік тому +48

      Ok “k-bob” 🤡

    • @K-bob_45
      @K-bob_45 Рік тому +2

      @@beandip9824 not sure what you think there is to argue about. They make .458 cal subsonic ammo and you can always just go supersonic

    • @3sellers3ful
      @3sellers3ful Рік тому

      ​@@K-bob_45yes but we don't want to feel like mouthbreaters. 8.6 is for the refined gentleman who wants to kill endangered species for a the making of a good story.

  • @CasualCOD
    @CasualCOD Рік тому +686

    I've never seen a round FLY through THREE ballistic gel blocks the way this did. That's beyond anything we see on a regular basis, and I can't wait to watch how popular this round becomes

    • @TacticoolPenguin
      @TacticoolPenguin Рік тому +41

      It clearly has ass behind it. But ammo companies need to figure out how to get it to dump its energy. Right now for big game it’s fine especially for a subsonic. I’m confident discreet ballistics, as well as others, will find the sweet spot.

    • @XBullitt16X
      @XBullitt16X Рік тому +43

      Right ? I bust out laughing, when it went through the 3rd one lmao.

    • @XBullitt16X
      @XBullitt16X Рік тому +13

      yeah flying straight though humans is not so good@@TacticoolPenguin

    • @nigelman9506
      @nigelman9506 Рік тому +35

      @@XBullitt16X Good against a crowd of zombies

    • @DrakyHRT
      @DrakyHRT Рік тому +30

      @@XBullitt16X Unless that human has body armor, then it's perfect for making some bad guys regret their lifes.

  • @KankedTv
    @KankedTv Рік тому +220

    Never heard of Ree but I want to just say I appreciate what they're doing. My grandpa was drafted into the Navy in Vietnam and has fought with the VA tirelessly for benefits. Appreciate you guys.

    • @nutbastard
      @nutbastard Рік тому

      My uncle was drafted into the army for Vietnam, later died of complications likely caused by agent orange exposure. The VA was less than useless. And of course they never would admit that AO had anything to do with it. F the VA.

    • @myfavoritemartian1
      @myfavoritemartian1 Рік тому +15

      My son is an RN at the local VA. He also is a Vet himself. Even he has problems getting appointments and cooperation. (You would think he would have some inside pull) The major problems are: 1-Manditory Paperwork, 2-No sense of urgency, 3-Dealing with secure seated civilian staff members who don't care. 4- Heavy layers of Federal Bureaucracy.

    • @guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077
      @guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077 Рік тому +10

      It is even worse when you get drafted and they don't pay up. Like, hello, I literally did not sign up for this crap.

    • @crewchief5144
      @crewchief5144 Рік тому +2

      I just got a call from the VA last Saturday. They didn't leave a voice mail...on a Saturday. Want to bet my record says "tried to contact, patient never returned call."?
      They are masters at dodging phones. I've called an office I was sitting in waiting for a "walk-ins welcome" appointment and watched them not answer it.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Рік тому

      @@guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077 Some say one of the modern schemes in the Biden admin to cover up political crimes is to start a war and then draft mass Americans into a war that can't be won, which would guarantee mass Americans who know too much will perish.

  • @captraddish891
    @captraddish891 Рік тому +128

    my last job was upgrading the VAs network switches, and it really opened my eyes to how horrible the system is for Veterans. I, as a 21 year old loser was making more off the VA as a contractor than employees that had been there for decades. All that in addition to the "facilities" that were at least 20 years behind on average. absolutely despicable how little they actually care.

    • @jh5131
      @jh5131 Рік тому +15

      If you think about it, it's actually the perfect real world application of fully government run healthcare

    • @Keepone974
      @Keepone974 Рік тому +7

      @@jh5131What do you mean by fully run? Because living in a country with a socialized healthcare, it's not like that at all (Japan), although private hospitals do exist (and you can use the national health insurance system with them anyway).

    • @drownthepoor
      @drownthepoor Рік тому +11

      @@Keepone974 That is your government, and your culture. Japan still believes in things like dedication to one's work and integrity. Perhaps to a fault in some cases.
      The USA is nothing like Japan, and nothing like the USA anymore unfortunately.
      Also, politicians and people make it seem like we lack socialized healthcare in the US. We don't.
      My father applied for state health insurance for the first time when he had a cancer diagnosis, and it changed my opinion on socialized medicine.
      However, that's one experience. I know people from Canada with both good/bad stories of social medical.

    • @drownthepoor
      @drownthepoor Рік тому +7

      @@jh5131 Facts, and that's a terrifying thought. I don't think I've known anyone with good things to say about VA healthcare. It actually seems like active-duty gets a totally different level of care. I dated a girl in the military and she had "Tri-Care" insurance I think? It seemed pretty good, but we also lived just outside of many major military/govt installations.

    • @HanTheProphet
      @HanTheProphet Рік тому

      @@drownthepoorhealth care up here has been pretty great for me anecdotally.
      I suppose it could be bad if your family doctor is dog shit, it’s not the easiest to switch I believe

  • @jamjamjovi
    @jamjamjovi Рік тому +240

    Cool! The 8.6 is pretty slick. I'm glad to see more people doing videos on it.

    • @masobburke2265
      @masobburke2265 Рік тому +2

      Bro you did not read it that fast it 21 min long

    • @johnqpublic2718
      @johnqpublic2718 Рік тому +6

      Needs that dopamine hit that comes from a potential notice by senpai

    • @mattmarzula
      @mattmarzula Рік тому +1

      That's how marketing works.

    • @TheDoorspook11c
      @TheDoorspook11c Рік тому +2

      I was a little surprised. It seemed like it would be low speed easy, but hot damn that energy was nasty!

    • @whatsmolly5741
      @whatsmolly5741 Рік тому +1

      ​@TheDoorspook11c ballistic gel makes anything look crazy in slow motion.
      8.6 subs are about 700 foot pounds and 300 blackout subs are about 600 foot pounds with 220 grain projectiles so it's really only a 100 foot pound increase but you also trade that for mag capacity.

  • @williamgrant2289
    @williamgrant2289 Рік тому +376

    I appreciate Micah's attempt at Charlie humor but no one can match his delivery 😂 Love it guys!

    • @TictacAddict1
      @TictacAddict1 Рік тому +4

      You put into words my thoughts.

    • @reallife3338
      @reallife3338 Рік тому +1

      Soooooo true

    • @Zed0086
      @Zed0086 Рік тому +9

      Where is Charlie?

    • @reallife3338
      @reallife3338 Рік тому +6

      @@Zed0086 no clue, I hope just taking some time off

    • @kellineburton
      @kellineburton Рік тому +10

      @@Zed0086 got slaved by the good folks over at Sweaty Disabled Idiots

  • @GeorgePatterson-o6z
    @GeorgePatterson-o6z Рік тому +5

    So sad REE Medical has to exist, and so grateful they do.. So sad REE Medical has to exist, and so grateful they do..

  • @userbosco
    @userbosco Рік тому +829

    The sound from that suppressed 8.6 round actually sounds like the made up suppressed sound they use in movies and games. Just a POP... impressive.

    • @theprojectproject01
      @theprojectproject01 Рік тому +26

      I wonder how much of the signature is just from the primer pop. It's not nothing, we knew that as far back as WW2 when they were developing the DeLisle carbine.... Which, when you think about it, this comes close to being an updated version of.

    • @vinkniv
      @vinkniv Рік тому +5

      Accuracy international makes rifles as quiet as these for many years.

    • @propanetankhank9588
      @propanetankhank9588 Рік тому +5

      @@vinkniv those things cost you as much as a car);

    • @vinkniv
      @vinkniv Рік тому +7

      @@propanetankhank9588 I didnt know that. My friend was in Dutch special forces and told me they had an AW covert integrally suppressed sniper and it was whisper quiet. That was roughly 10 years ago.

    • @flowgangsemaudamartoz7062
      @flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 Рік тому

      @@vinknivOh so Arctic Warfare is a kind of product line from Accuracy International or am i messing up nomenclature?

  • @eamonnholland5343
    @eamonnholland5343 Рік тому +140

    Almost didn't even look like the round would stop in the ballistic gel no matter how many blocks you set up. Looked like it was a rocket propelled drill, and zoomed out the other side like it was having a lovely, lovely day. One of the coolest ballistic gel tests I've seen for a round.

    • @AndyDrake-FOOKYT
      @AndyDrake-FOOKYT Рік тому +17

      I'd like to see it hit plates or a sheet of plywood or something else hard b4 the gel and see what happens.

  • @KeithFoster-re5xj
    @KeithFoster-re5xj Рік тому +197

    How smooth that round goes through the gel honestly looks like cheap CGI which kinda freaks me out. That's absolutely incredible and I love it.

    • @waters3700
      @waters3700 Рік тому

      i was thinking the same thing hahah this is crazy

    • @paintballplayer700
      @paintballplayer700 Рік тому +11

      aka these expensive "guaranteed to expand" bullets don't perform for shit lol

    • @hhhhhhhhh1071
      @hhhhhhhhh1071 Рік тому +3

      ​@@paintballplayer700idk about this because I'm no gunsmith, but in my opinion it's not a good way to prove that since this is a very new round still in development

    • @kristian5632
      @kristian5632 Рік тому

      that's because it is CGI

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Рік тому

      Ever seen something slow, heavy, with a flat nose go through gel? Like a WFN hard-cast .45-70 slug?

  • @davelaneve2446
    @davelaneve2446 Рік тому +7

    I really want one of these! The 300 BKO had the same overpenetration issues when it came out, as most bullets are designed to penetrate and expand properly at fast supersonic velocities. A few years ago we were shooting 6.5 Creedmoor at muzzle velocities of around 3000 fps. At 100-200 yards they were penetrating and expanding to about 16-18 inches in ballistic gelatin. At 1000+ yards, they were not expanding and penetrating more than 36 inches.
    With the 300 BKO, it performed much better at closer ranges once bullets were developed that were designed to penetrate and expand at subsonic velocities. So this round will be better once those bullets become available to perform at subsonic.

    • @Kawka1122
      @Kawka1122 Місяць тому

      It is cheap pistol. Get yourself one of these machine guns

  • @kearnsey64
    @kearnsey64 Рік тому +261

    The fact we need Reemedical is absolutely sickening. Kudos to you guys!❤

    • @dontask8979
      @dontask8979 Рік тому +19

      Agree.
      Anyone medically discharged should receive full pay and benefits tax free for life.

    • @georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330
      @georgefloydsinhellwbreonna5330 Рік тому +3

      I used them. It’s better to pay $2k and get 100% than to have DAV take $10k out of my backpay.

    • @deeetherton445
      @deeetherton445 Рік тому +2

      Same with Wounded Warrior and all the other veterans assistance programs. VA should handle it all without a problem to the vetrans and no need for other charities. So much wrong with how we do things through government.

    • @nagsal1600
      @nagsal1600 Рік тому

      @@dontask8979 Welcome to average Europa land lmfao
      I agree on that fact I don't imagine living that US way ,-,

    • @Your_Evil_Femboy
      @Your_Evil_Femboy Рік тому

      ⁠@@nagsal1600don’t worry, we can’t imagine living in the uk land either. It’s why we separated over 200 years ago from ya.

  • @rpmarts
    @rpmarts Рік тому +235

    .338 BLK would be a cooler name and match .300BLK stablished nomenclature, since nobody calls it the 7.62x35

    • @Jake-bt3fc
      @Jake-bt3fc Рік тому +74

      Nah, bro. We need to keep bullets as confusing as possible.

    • @wraithwyvern528
      @wraithwyvern528 Рік тому +18

      Gotta make the nerds who know this shit feel good about themselves.

    • @Maddog3060
      @Maddog3060 Рік тому +3

      Whoa there, partner, we can't go disturbing the Fudds and Ludds by having sensible ideas, now can we? ;)

    • @Scroolewse
      @Scroolewse Рік тому +6

      8.6mm has a more menacing sound to it. I know it's the same measurement but for some reason I feel like it better emphasizes the bigness of the round.
      Maybe because people are used to considering 7.62 a "big" bullet so a bullet bigger feels scarier.

    • @praharin
      @praharin Рік тому +2

      I’m pretty sure KB did it this way specifically to annoy people

  • @limacharlietac
    @limacharlietac Рік тому +217

    More effort goes into making these videos than my entire life. And we thank you

    • @jacobzindel987
      @jacobzindel987 Рік тому +2

      Your entire life has lead up to that epic comment.

    • @Cheka__
      @Cheka__ Рік тому +1

      You put more effort into one second of your life than I've put into twenty years of mine.

    • @neithertwosturrr3016
      @neithertwosturrr3016 Рік тому

      Forgotten weapons did it first lol

    • @kingbeeris8814
      @kingbeeris8814 Рік тому

      I agree 😂

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Рік тому

      So are you saying, you're a low achiever?

  • @cokeyNbk
    @cokeyNbk Рік тому +13

    Always appreciate garand due to his no nonsense nature and saying what others are scared to but what everyone wants to hear. How good does a round stop people, yes. . .

  • @DieselDoktor
    @DieselDoktor Рік тому +201

    GT: “it’s the quietest combination I’ve ever heard.”
    .22LR 20” barrel, with 12” can: “am I a joke to you?”

    • @pariswashington5543
      @pariswashington5543 Рік тому +1

      What is all that mean

    • @saltysaty8686
      @saltysaty8686 Рік тому +16

      ​@@pariswashington5543if you know you know. Look up subsonic 22lr long-range with suppressors.

    • @themexis
      @themexis Рік тому +12

      @@pariswashington5543 it's in freedom units, heres the conversion:
      0.22 inch diameter round fired from a 20 inch barrel gun with an additional 12 inches of suppressor.
      i think they shot this in the episode where they tried to answer "up to what distance is the 0.22 inch caliber deadly"

    • @UFPTX
      @UFPTX Рік тому +16

      @@pariswashington5543it means that the 8.6 doesn’t have shit on a 22 suppressed setup. As far as center fire it may be the king but as far as throwing something with minimal sound to beat the 22 you would need a slingshot and ball bearings and even then the 22 might be quieter.

    • @Sk0lzky
      @Sk0lzky Рік тому +2

      "I've ever heard" he said. He was in the military before modern ear pro. If I'm not mistaken during the time branch was implementing field ear pro which didn't work (and so nobody used it) and kept everyone in the dark for a decade kekw

  • @Echo2-2
    @Echo2-2 Рік тому +282

    I am impressed at how rounds and guns themselves are getting quieter and quieter as time goes on. Fascinating stuff

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 Рік тому +25

      the limiting factor is they have to keep the round subsonic

    • @davidstorm4911
      @davidstorm4911 Рік тому +5

      It's the expensive Can & sub-sonic loads.

    • @THESLlCK
      @THESLlCK Рік тому +2

      @@tomtemple69quiet supersonic is very doable but requires an extremely long and slender projectile. There are supersonic aircraft that have almost no sonic boom at all. Incredible.

    • @kennethschultz6465
      @kennethschultz6465 Рік тому

      @echo2-2 aslong they had made MP5ad Super Silenced
      using 9mm sub sonic ammo.. a ball pen clicking was louder then MP5ad
      and the silenced ammo hat a realy thin rubber layer on the brass so the
      empty dident say ding ding when hitting stones on ground ... now that is quiet
      nothing new at all ... the crack you hear is the sonic boom from the bullit leawin the silencer
      nothing new about that again..

    • @dashdartfun
      @dashdartfun Рік тому

      @@tomtemple69 Not necessarily. In theory if your projectile is thin enough the sonic boom should be very quiet.

  • @efcsscfe2208
    @efcsscfe2208 Рік тому +140

    When Jim Rock was alive, he developed a single shot 30 caliber projectile in a 32 H&R brass as a toy for the teams for anti-sniper. You heard the trigger click, and then down range impact and steel, silhouette flip over. I ended up buying two of Jim Rock’s single shots in wildcat calibers. I’m sorry he has gone to the great gunsmith shop in the sky.

    • @srschick72
      @srschick72 Рік тому +1

      what is an "anti-sniper"? anything like a "counter sniper"?

  • @r.ashlandwaddle9254
    @r.ashlandwaddle9254 20 днів тому +1

    1-3 twist. Right or left hand turn/ twist ??? This video is a mind blower with the 8.6 and light weight AR set up.

  • @J4CKWR4TH
    @J4CKWR4TH Рік тому +118

    The 8.6 has been my most thought about round since I heard about it, I expect a lot of cool things in the future based on this tech.

    • @thelittledetailscr7231
      @thelittledetailscr7231 Рік тому +10

      I don't know if there is much tech to it. It's a 6.5 creedmoor case necked up to 338 with a fast twist barrel. That it.

    • @mercury4510
      @mercury4510 Рік тому +24

      ⁠@@thelittledetailscr7231 if it’s so simple why didn’t you think of it first then 😂
      Oh wait it probably took a team of people weeks or months to find the Goldilocks combo of existing rounds and rifling. Either through data crunching or extensive range testing, and then manufacturing the rifles and rounds for further testing, and clearly they’re still refining it.
      It’s not as simple as “stuff a 338 in a 6.5 that shit will be bonkers!!”

    • @thelittledetailscr7231
      @thelittledetailscr7231 Рік тому +7

      @@mercury4510 I'm a psychologist, so it is not my job to create new rounds. Plus I'm in California, so there is no use in creating subs as we can't have suppressors.
      What data is there to crunch? Fast burning powder like 300bo uses, neck up the case...only thing left is to see what twist works best.

    • @Hornet135
      @Hornet135 Рік тому

      @@mercury4510 Since you’re such an expert, I guess you came up with 8.6.

    • @DPham1
      @DPham1 Рік тому +12

      Everything seems simple after it's been invented

  • @drumbum353
    @drumbum353 Рік тому +136

    I am surprised you didn’t shoot an armor plate with it. That’s the biggest test we need to see now 👍🏻

    • @gamesandsoftwares1441
      @gamesandsoftwares1441 Рік тому +6

      more vids on this i guess

    • @tjbouch
      @tjbouch Рік тому +3

      This

    • @en31337
      @en31337 Рік тому +2

      Kept that for demoranch 😂

    • @rockon772
      @rockon772 Рік тому +4

      It’ll get banned asap

    • @drumbum353
      @drumbum353 Рік тому

      @@rockon772 probably, but he’d post insta reels later in the week and we’d have all the answers we need. (I’d prefer a 30 minute video though 😂)

  • @payne7761
    @payne7761 Рік тому +54

    Took me 14 years of off and on fighting with the VA to get up to 100%. The Ree boys are doing good work, I wish they'd been around when I was going through that battle.

  • @Buster-im5so
    @Buster-im5so 27 днів тому

    I normally leave videos with as much tangent- talking as is in this video's opening. However, I paused the video at 2:50 to respond because of the opening capturing my attention, hey, enough to give me confidence to listen, learn and grow from the info presented on this platform (whether subjective or objective). Thanks!

  • @natekinzie4749
    @natekinzie4749 Рік тому +274

    I can't get over Mike's face when Micah went full Charlie with the signature reduction explanation!!😂😂

    • @titusdaniel
      @titusdaniel Рік тому +7

      You can tell he's thinking about the edit at this point. He knows he has to maintain a straight face for at least a few seconds before he breaks. 😆

  • @spenn0806
    @spenn0806 Рік тому +31

    Super happy to see the REE medical clip. Can’t recommend them enough! They helped me immensely after getting pounded by the VA for years.

  • @nerysalguero3956
    @nerysalguero3956 Рік тому +63

    Thanks for the heads up on that veterans assistance. My buddy is currently in the backlog with the VA. They dragging their feet get his paperwork through so he can get his percentage and finally get his benefits. Hopefully they can help him

  • @PaulDJr
    @PaulDJr Рік тому +11

    Awesome introduction, as always! 😄 Not only is your content educational, but it is entertaining as well, keeping your audience engaged at all times. Keep up the great work guys!

  • @Publius380a.C.
    @Publius380a.C. Рік тому +221

    Mike as always demonstrates that he's the realest guy on this app, W for supporting screwed over Vets. Keep up the good work guys!

    • @eriklarson9137
      @eriklarson9137 Рік тому +4

      What app?

    • @CertifiedSunset
      @CertifiedSunset Рік тому

      @@eriklarson9137 UA-cam is an app for mobile so he's likely talking about that.

    • @Kernnun
      @Kernnun Рік тому

      @@eriklarson9137 most use their phone

    • @pierrelecoq4945
      @pierrelecoq4945 Рік тому

      @@eriklarson9137 ytb

    • @DrakyHRT
      @DrakyHRT Рік тому

      @@eriklarson9137 youtube on mobile devices is an app, not a website.

  • @CombatBuckee
    @CombatBuckee Рік тому +278

    Honestly VERY curious to see how this new round evolves into the AR platform. I’m a HUGE 300BLK fan. This intrigues me greatly

    • @rollastudent
      @rollastudent Рік тому +16

      Faxon makes AR10 barrels, the rest of the parts are normal AR10/15 parts

    • @bmountainboy
      @bmountainboy Рік тому +18

      Gorilla n faxon have been pumping full builds do almost8 months

    • @____________838
      @____________838 Рік тому +7

      See also: Q Boombox

    • @littletree343
      @littletree343 Рік тому +3

      I truly think these would be badass on AK platform

    • @chickennuggets2929
      @chickennuggets2929 Рік тому +4

      im shocked, the spin is mind boggling

  • @justinramirez9733
    @justinramirez9733 Рік тому +37

    Cutting the weight of an big game rifle down that much is incredible. Imagine how much nicer a hunt will be without a dinosaur on your back.

  • @Verna-q7s
    @Verna-q7s Рік тому +3

    If you surrender to the wind, you can ride it.

  • @codydalton6011
    @codydalton6011 Рік тому +36

    Mike love your videos, and its awesome seeing REE Medical on your channel they helped me get from 60% to 100%.

  • @texasexotics9645
    @texasexotics9645 Рік тому +42

    man i just gotta say you’re one of the best firearm youtubers, top tier quality my friend

  • @TheDecoyDude
    @TheDecoyDude Рік тому +349

    Am I the only person that is noticing that Garand Thumb has tons more tats every video? Went from none to 2 sleeves pretty quickly

    • @WALTER4999__
      @WALTER4999__ Рік тому +71

      he was on instagram live a couple days ago getting one lol

    • @benjaminnevins5211
      @benjaminnevins5211 Рік тому +56

      Previous "job" probably didn't allow it.

    • @ericpettyfishing
      @ericpettyfishing Рік тому +53

      Steroids too

    • @kczcb4697
      @kczcb4697 Рік тому +8

      There’s a tattoo artist in Idaho who’s been very busy.

    • @badco27
      @badco27 Рік тому +49

      He’s been hanging around post Malone too much

  • @JacobTN47
    @JacobTN47 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for shining light on the VA situation.

  • @CertifiedSunset
    @CertifiedSunset Рік тому +105

    I've only shot 8.6 once because a very nice gentleman on the range we were shooting at offered. It's one of the most unique shooting experiences I've had. Compared to the round shot, there is almost no recoil.

    • @vanderwallstronghold8905
      @vanderwallstronghold8905 Рік тому +13

      You were shooting at the nice gentleman?

    • @CertifiedSunset
      @CertifiedSunset Рік тому +14

      @@vanderwallstronghold8905 I don't think he would take very kindly to me doing that, lol!

    • @mikeovercast9799
      @mikeovercast9799 Рік тому +2

      I shot one for the first time a couple of days ago and was really impressed!

    • @alquinn3562
      @alquinn3562 Рік тому +1

      @@mikeovercast9799The gentleman?

  • @nftvegeta538
    @nftvegeta538 Рік тому +25

    yo Garand ...I Just want to say thank you man
    these videos is so much fun and informative
    and i think a lot of people including my self love what your doing not for only the "fire arms " community but also for the viewers and many more ...your positive vibe is what people need and a lot of people watch your videos and use it as a way to escape stress, anxiety, depression...
    so thanks man ...really

  • @benjaminnevins5211
    @benjaminnevins5211 Рік тому +50

    I was always wondering why this round existed, but now it looks fun.

    • @beavismagnum
      @beavismagnum Рік тому +3

      First was 7.62x39 but worse, now we have 9x39 but worse

    • @thekraken1173
      @thekraken1173 Рік тому +18

      @@beavismagnum Blackouts don’t require big curvy magazines so you can actually carry multiple magazines.

    • @johnnyshanksalot8358
      @johnnyshanksalot8358 Рік тому +3

      @@beavismagnum7.62x39 doesn't run supers so there's no comparison there, it's only a handgun round power-wise. If you want subs that don't suck compared to rifles, you gotta go 458 socom, etc.

  • @roangrahm1529
    @roangrahm1529 Рік тому +6

    I REALLY want to see what this does to armor after seeing it go through three blocks like they weren't even there.

  • @bravo4adventure988
    @bravo4adventure988 Рік тому +19

    Good to see Ree Medical on your show. I hired them a few months ago and am in the middle of the process.

  • @Swissk31300BO
    @Swissk31300BO Рік тому +36

    If garand thumb is the reason more manufacturers make 8.6 and it gets sammi standard I will be forever grateful. 2.50-3.00 bucks a round factory and 1.5 ish for reloads ain’t great right now.

    • @YesImKyle
      @YesImKyle Рік тому +3

      I was just about to research building one. Thanks for saving me some time haha

    • @lugia233
      @lugia233 Рік тому +1

      Man as a big time magnum guy that is cheap haha

    • @Swissk31300BO
      @Swissk31300BO Рік тому +3

      @@lugia233 this is replacing 45-70, 44 msg and just sbout everything but 22 and 300 blackout for me. So buying 5-10k is not a good time right now. Either reloading components or factory ammo.
      Hopefully this video really kicks ammo components manufacturing into overdrive

    • @brighthought11
      @brighthought11 Рік тому +1

      @@Swissk31300BO why is this round replacing so many? explain

    • @Swissk31300BO
      @Swissk31300BO Рік тому

      @@brighthought11 did u watch the video?

  • @Ihasanart
    @Ihasanart Рік тому +122

    Those 8.6 hollowpoints are likely moving too slow to get expansion and are supercavitating decreasing drag and resistance through the gel.

    • @jacktheaviator4938
      @jacktheaviator4938 Рік тому +22

      They weren't using traditional lead/copper hollow points. The 8.6 only comes in solid monolithic projectiles due to the extreme twist rates. So all that is available is copper fragmenting subsonic. And they don't really work as advertised. I bought a bunch from gorilla in 300 blk and none of them fragmented in gel. That's why it is getting so much penetration. A 223 would penetrate with a similar projectile at that range.

    • @dakotareid1566
      @dakotareid1566 Рік тому +4

      @@jacktheaviator4938ummm what are you talking about, looks like a hollow point to me 1:20

    • @PedroHenrique-xm1yt
      @PedroHenrique-xm1yt Рік тому +17

      ​@@jacktheaviator4938wait, what? Didn't he literally show us a hollow point with cuts on the side to ENSURE expansion, plus a huge cavity at the front? I still can't understand how the fmj sucked but the hollow point penetrated like that

    • @dakotareid1566
      @dakotareid1566 Рік тому +1

      @@PedroHenrique-xm1ytexactly

    • @nathanbegovich6173
      @nathanbegovich6173 Рік тому +12

      They arent lead core. Solid copper made to expand at 1000fps. If you shot these are 2000 or 3000 fps they would prob just fly apart in the air bc they are made to expand so easily

  • @Quad5Ny
    @Quad5Ny Рік тому +2

    I believe the extra rotation along with the bullet shape is helping it cut through the gel blocks as the bullet moves forward - leading to less loss of forward momentum on the bullet.

    • @analogludite9575
      @analogludite9575 Рік тому +1

      I was thinking the same thing. Like the difference between a drill bit and a nail going through a 2 x4. It's like it's screwing and chewing through rather than pushing.

  • @c_s_8411
    @c_s_8411 Рік тому +53

    I built an 8.6 in a AR10 platform when they first came out. I have been experimenting with different projectiles and I have found the hornady 285 grain ftx's shoot really well. For what it is I think it's an awesome rifle can't wait to go deer hunting with it this fall. I haven't shot a concrete wall with it but I have 3/8 steel and it almost went through with subs, it would have smoked it with supers.

    • @eidtnaci
      @eidtnaci Рік тому

      Where did u get ur upper from?

    • @c_s_8411
      @c_s_8411 Рік тому +2

      I used the Aero M5 upper and lower. Whatever you do, don't cerakote the inside of the upper receiver.@@eidtnaci

  • @fracturedrealitygaming1326
    @fracturedrealitygaming1326 Рік тому +76

    This round introduces reduced minimap visibility when firing 8.6, especially when Ghillie suit is equipped

    • @guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077
      @guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077 Рік тому +1

      Be careful saying that. The fbi may send 50 agents to your house. 😅

    • @fracturedrealitygaming1326
      @fracturedrealitygaming1326 Рік тому +7

      @@guitarsaremyfriendzzz7077 it’s a call of duty joke. I doubt even the fbi is so stupid they can’t figure that one out

    • @Cayylub
      @Cayylub Рік тому +1

      Don’t forget about the slower ADS, sprint speed, and damage because of the suppressor 😜

    • @Maddog3060
      @Maddog3060 Рік тому

      @@fracturedrealitygaming1326Frankly, I wouldn't bet against the FBI being that stupid; they've shown themselves to be pretty damn subhuman.

    • @mogonja420
      @mogonja420 Рік тому

      The feds play cod

  • @FreedomandBaconHomestead
    @FreedomandBaconHomestead Рік тому +44

    So sad REE Medical has to exist, and so grateful they do.

  • @a1cwhite1
    @a1cwhite1 Рік тому

    everyone i've seen that shoots this gun is blown away by it. i can't wait to get my hands on one.

  • @timtimtimmay4654
    @timtimtimmay4654 Рік тому +14

    Currently fighting the VA with REE Medical. Can confirm they are great to work with. Will follow up on this post once the process is finished if anyone else is curious.

  • @BuckleyWiley
    @BuckleyWiley Рік тому +15

    I have had my 2 8.6s for a year now and I love both my fix and ar10 they are very quiet

  • @Buletspunge555
    @Buletspunge555 Рік тому +116

    Mike, really enjoying the evolution of your content. The decision to include Micah and Charlie is so clutch. Making it a fun time with bros, helps to bring your audience into the experience. Good job fellas!!

  • @Rugaard_DK
    @Rugaard_DK Рік тому +1

    it is a shame you need something like ree medical, these women and men who have given it all for their country and they need extra support to get their rights fulfilled is a shame to the vets of America. But it is good you have ree to help you to get your needs fulfilled. all the respect to companies who aid veterans. I salute all US vets, you are all Heroes who gave your best.
    and that bullet is insane, keep the powder dry and your weapon clean and continue to show us what is out there. keep it up excellent work

  • @Meloncholymadness
    @Meloncholymadness Рік тому +14

    Jeez that rifle is incredible, just that whole setup from the optic to the round... Envy!

    • @SamI-jk5vt
      @SamI-jk5vt 11 місяців тому +2

      what rifle is it?

    • @davidmclennan9084
      @davidmclennan9084 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@SamI-jk5vt Q Fix if you havent found the answer yet

    • @jamesriver-br6hc
      @jamesriver-br6hc 5 місяців тому

      @@davidmclennan9084 thank you so much i was looking for the name of the gun but didnt realize when he said Q i thought it was a brand name that sponsored him or something

  • @Sikdomeshot
    @Sikdomeshot Рік тому +76

    Insane round with huge energy. I was shocked when it went straight through three ballistics gels.

    • @sorashirogami1729
      @sorashirogami1729 Рік тому +17

      Not that high energy, just massive energy retention. Note how the blocks barely shook.

    • @handcraftedbymd
      @handcraftedbymd Рік тому +4

      It’s a mix of how fast the round is moving and the projectile itself not opening up. The projectile was moving just too slow to open up, and essentially is just a slug at that point

    • @pb7087
      @pb7087 Рік тому +2

      Discreet ballistics makes fantastic opening subs. But yeah, they didn’t expand for some reason here.

    • @tortol4847
      @tortol4847 Рік тому +4

      It's really not that much energy. The heavier bullets are around 300 grains traveling 1000fps which has around 650 ft/lbs of energy which is about the same as 357 mag/10mm auto from a revolver/pistol. Supers have 1800-1900 ft/lbs which is nothing to laugh at but that's your typical 30-30 winchester load. Like 300 blackout, this is meant to be as quiet as possible. The only way to get more power out of subsonic rounds is to add bullet weight which this accomplishes compared to 300 blk.

  • @elman8283
    @elman8283 Рік тому +12

    Loved the CAMERA GUY'S response for SIGNATURE REDUCTION!!!! I never saw GT that QUIET that LONG....

  • @knighthawk6633
    @knighthawk6633 Рік тому +30

    I took two hogs with my 8.6 BLK. Both passed straight through with a 225 CX bullet and a muzzle velocity of 1,800fps. Also, do not shoot traditional cup and core lead projectiles. I destroyed two suppressors experimenting with different bullets.

  • @stephenjohnson6841
    @stephenjohnson6841 Рік тому +2

    Wow! That is impressive. It will be interesting to see where this goes with more development! Thanks for the information about ReeMedical! I'll pass that along!

    • @REEMedicalVets
      @REEMedicalVets Рік тому +1

      We grately appreciate word-of-mouth and referrals! We offer free consultations for all of our services.

    • @JacksonRhodes42
      @JacksonRhodes42 7 місяців тому

      @@REEMedicalVets I cannot begin to put into words how grateful I am for the work you guys do. Incredible, thank you!

  • @Phahr
    @Phahr Рік тому +31

    Solid dad advice! Micah should have his own 80’s sitcom!

  • @michaelcerrone1482
    @michaelcerrone1482 Рік тому +26

    This video is evidence that you guys should be the definitive review on new cartridges and guns. The way you guys explain everything is a common sense picture in the mind.

  • @RL-RL
    @RL-RL Рік тому +31

    The BEST content that I always can't wait to see! The subtle comedy always makes my day as well! Great job Mike and Micah!

  • @timmytenders8536
    @timmytenders8536 4 місяці тому +1

    @Grand Thumb
    need a follow up on this with ballistics from different types of ammo

  • @GingerBeardMan977
    @GingerBeardMan977 Рік тому +70

    300 and 8.6 blackout are straight up assassin rounds. quiet and precise in their range

    • @ryanhamstra49
      @ryanhamstra49 Рік тому +10

      I mean, .300 was made for the seals, so you aren’t wrong

    • @sinisterthoughts2896
      @sinisterthoughts2896 Рік тому +1

      Precise in their range applies to every round. 300 blackout started as a subsonic hunting cartridge. Considering nost assassinations performed with a firearm are performed at close quarters with non suppressed guns, the whole statement just seems a little poorly thought out.

    • @helmut1388
      @helmut1388 Рік тому +4

      When we went "downrange" and I heard the first round, I thought that's quite loud. Then I heard him loading the next round and the noise was about the same as the shot. Insane.

    • @johnmoss4624
      @johnmoss4624 Рік тому +3

      @@ryanhamstra49 we're not using clubs anymore?

    • @themexis
      @themexis Рік тому

      looks like headshots are back on the table 😄

  • @casacerian
    @casacerian Рік тому +8

    Great video, great rifle, but also a great sponsor. I used REE medical for my own claim and everything went perfectly. Highly recommend.

  • @JohnDoe-go3kv
    @JohnDoe-go3kv Рік тому +10

    "I don't know, man, I think I'm just a little bit lost"
    I felt that.

  • @somethingtrulyhorrifying
    @somethingtrulyhorrifying Рік тому

    SIGNATURE REDUCTION explanation was on point. He would make a good high school teacher.

  • @larryjohnson150
    @larryjohnson150 Рік тому +20

    As a civilian my only reference for the VA is veteran friends I have and it blew my mind the stories they would tell me. A good friend of mine I met at gunsmith school was 26, fresh out of the Marines where he was an artillerymen and he was deaf as a hammer. Like extreme hearing loss for that age and when I asked if the VA would give him hearing aids he said they wouldn’t provide them till he had at least 80% hearing loss. Apparently he only had 78% or some shit, anyways that’s one of many stories I heard from all those guys and it just sounded like the VA was always a damn nightmare.
    All I know is we need to get that shit fixed before anyone puts any thought into free government run health care!

  • @bobbytables4305
    @bobbytables4305 Рік тому +60

    Can we take a minute to appreciate that next little dad joke that Micah made. Now that he's a dad the power has been fully realized

    • @saureco
      @saureco Рік тому +2

      He'll reach his true final form once someone touches the thermostat.

  • @shooteveryday1841
    @shooteveryday1841 Рік тому +45

    For armor piercing - they could just put a drill bit on the tip given its rotation speed..

    • @RealMTBAddict
      @RealMTBAddict Рік тому

      Its*

    • @lucastonoli3256
      @lucastonoli3256 Рік тому +4

      It would come out flying from that **tarded twist-rate and - likely - off-center bit (as it would be a nightmare to get it perfectly centered).

    • @skepticalbadger
      @skepticalbadger Рік тому

      ​@@RealMTBAddictAndroid autocomplete puts the apostrophe in automatically, which is fucking annoying.

    • @RealMTBAddict
      @RealMTBAddict Рік тому +1

      @@skepticalbadger yep mine does it too. Gotta stay vigilant because the grammar General is here lol

  • @noahway13
    @noahway13 8 місяців тому +1

    08:10 That bullet literally came out of the gel and had just enough gel contact to be pulled back in....

  • @jeffwillburn9455
    @jeffwillburn9455 Рік тому +28

    Did anybody else see the flash ignition in the gel for the 8.6 FMJ that’s cool asf, I think all the air compressing in the gel superheated it 11:18

  • @NO3V
    @NO3V Рік тому +19

    5:05
    "When it *enters a human body* it does crazy [ __ ] and I *can't wait to show you guys that* ."
    WE ARE STILL WAITING!

  • @coreymerrill3257
    @coreymerrill3257 Рік тому +9

    "How would you describe the 8.6 blackout? " ..." Like a .338 whisper "

  • @Darkhalo314
    @Darkhalo314 6 місяців тому +1

    For anybody wondering, the rifle Mike is using is the:
    Q - The Fix 8.6 Blackout 16"

    • @ThorVeras
      @ThorVeras 6 місяців тому

      Appears to be the 12'' version, can you confirm that is the 16 ?

    • @ParasitikOne
      @ParasitikOne 4 місяці тому +1

      he even said in the video it’s a 12 inch barrel

  • @cody180sx
    @cody180sx Рік тому +6

    Currently building an 8.6BLK AR. Getting ahold of the barrel and finding the ammo, if you don't reload, are the hardest things to get. Faxon is the only one currently making barrels, they made the ones for Q for this rifle. Everything else is pretty much standard for a .308 build though, even the bcg.

    • @seanridner1385
      @seanridner1385 Рік тому +2

      Just a heads up to anyone reading this - I am also at near completion of an 8" 8.6blk LR-308 build. Currently, the barrel is back at Faxon for testing since 300gr SMKs are getting jammed into the lands of the barrel (I believe the freebore in the barrel was not cut long enough) and cannot be extracted manually without the bullet separating from the case. I found that setting the bullet into the case a few hundredths deeper resolves the issue. Will update with Faxon's response if I can remember lol

    • @cody180sx
      @cody180sx Рік тому

      Finished mine, it's so awesome to shoot other than the price of ammo. Everyone I've let try it loves it, the bullet smacking the railroad tie backstop at 100 yards is louder than the gunshot when suppressed.

  • @CWHolleman
    @CWHolleman Рік тому +7

    The whole reason I got into .300 Blackout was the fact the round fit in AR mags and worked in AR platforms.
    These days I have a really hard time justifying a new caliber being added to the collection, especially considering the cost of these rounds.
    For now I'll stick with my bolt action .300 and Honey Badger

    • @RowdyPNW
      @RowdyPNW Рік тому +4

      8.6 is the same concept in 308 bolt and gas guns, all you need is a barrel swap just like 300 blk in 556 guns.

  • @matthewhenry6276
    @matthewhenry6276 Рік тому +21

    Micah went full Charlie on that signature reduction statement 😂

  • @BUZZKILLJRJR
    @BUZZKILLJRJR Рік тому +77

    That round literally drills through, like there was nothing there Wow! What an amazing round so far!
    Also we have grizzly bear, cougar around here. Already have a 300 Winchester magnum but it's not going to punch near as deep as this guy will. And all you guys thinking passed through is too far think about bones or skull you might have to punch through. It's not gel.

    • @ElementofKindness
      @ElementofKindness Рік тому +12

      And that penetration makes it a terrible round for hunting and self defense. Pass through is energy wasted. The objective should always be to dissipate 100% of the energy in the target.

    • @CrimsonSp33d
      @CrimsonSp33d Рік тому +9

      @@ElementofKindnessonly good for big game hunting at that point, but would have to see the energy delivered at the stop. Penetration is absolutely crazy, would like to some vests take a few rounds

    • @oboylebeast
      @oboylebeast Рік тому +6

      You have never hunted if you don't think passthrough is important in hunting. Go watch some of the videos on how it performs on african game. Im sure you won't have issues with expansion when hitting a ribcage or shoulder of an elk.

    • @sonofnone116
      @sonofnone116 Рік тому +1

      ​@@ElementofKindnesscheck out discreet ballistics real-world tests on the high-rotational energy. It ensures the petals actually open up on hunting projectiles at subsonic velocities. The added benefit is a MUCH higher surface area in the wound channel, meaning more devestating bleeding. KB has plenty of animals taken on & off film with the 8.6.

    • @sixfootdworf9545
      @sixfootdworf9545 Рік тому

      Engery dump is based upon round type. It depends on the round design.

  • @zacksimpson6029
    @zacksimpson6029 Рік тому +13

    Discreet ammo is phenomenal for subsonic applications. I haven’t found a better round for my 300 blk, waiting for 8.6!

  • @jimmybonse7151
    @jimmybonse7151 Рік тому +117

    I'm rooting so hard for 8.6 blackout. We need this cartridge, but I don't want to invest in a rifle until it's SAAMI spec'd and I know it'll be around for a while.

    • @goldenremnant2610
      @goldenremnant2610 11 місяців тому +1

      Just get a reloading station… 6.5 CM casing is not too hard to come by…

    • @Huckleberry52
      @Huckleberry52 11 місяців тому

      Need is a strong word lol

    • @Bobbylegs37
      @Bobbylegs37 11 місяців тому +2

      I don't get the hype. 350 legend can throw a heavier bullet out of a smaller action at the same speed.

    • @Bobbylegs37
      @Bobbylegs37 11 місяців тому

      I don't get the hype. 350 legend can throw a heavier bullet out of a smaller action at the same speed.

    • @Bobbylegs37
      @Bobbylegs37 11 місяців тому

      I don't get the hype. 350 legend can throw a heavier bullet out of a smaller action at the same speed.

  • @up4open
    @up4open Рік тому +6

    You made a good point, that high pierce would be interesting to test against lvl 3.

  • @TheDeadmandillon
    @TheDeadmandillon Рік тому +20

    I have the same thoughts as Micha, but with unsuppressed 150gr .300 blackout. That delayed gunshot sound is way different from everything I've shot before. This 8.6 however, albeit with a can, is definitely something else entirely. Y'all should try this rifle out at a 1,000 yards suppressor and all.

    • @williwonti
      @williwonti Рік тому +7

      Might need 22 man for that

    • @TheDeadmandillon
      @TheDeadmandillon Рік тому +2

      @@williwonti Oh God I hope not unless he's willing to come back to the channel

    • @rollastudent
      @rollastudent Рік тому +3

      I feel like they could have ran the bolt and sent a second round before the first ding

  • @TheHorzabora
    @TheHorzabora Рік тому +8

    I was impressed with the Fix when Ian first reviewed it, and now I’m even more impressed - both from the absurd penetration perspective (although how practical it is can be open to question) and how much fun it appears to be to shoot.
    I think it has the potential to be a very good scout rifle, certainly as a backup or secondary weapon in conjunction with something more general purpose.
    But then, I have odd ideas about what a practical use case for such weapons in a conflict scenario I - or someone else - might be involved in.
    And - perhaps more realistically in current usage - it seems to be intensely good fun.

  • @davidl416
    @davidl416 Рік тому +12

    The 8.6 caught my attention the first time I saw it for hunting applications. I settled on a 450 BM running subsonic/suppressed.

    • @machinesandthings7121
      @machinesandthings7121 Рік тому

      Why did you choose that over 458 Socom?

    • @davidl416
      @davidl416 Рік тому +2

      @machinesandthings7121
      Ease of finding ammo and bullet selection either manufactured or what I reload for myself.
      The 450BM can sling a 200gr over 2600fps or simply sling a 395gr at 1050fps for subsonic use.
      I do have a 458Socom and 50 beo to also play with, and both are great rounds and effective depending on your needs. The 450BM is just way more popular cartridge and feeding it easier than most other big bores.
      Never seen 458 in any store, seen 50beo twice in the last 5 or 6 years, 450 is everywhere, basically.

    • @themoose66
      @themoose66 Рік тому

      ​@@davidl416black butterfly makes some insane hunting loads for 450bm and 458socom

  • @exodus030
    @exodus030 Рік тому +8

    Big ups to Ree, doing the work that really matters. Not all heroes wear capes 🙌🙏🙌 Hooah
    Awesome video too

  • @reshadreswan
    @reshadreswan Рік тому +9

    Insane engineering is done on this round..excellent work

  • @GregNTech
    @GregNTech Рік тому +14

    The subsonic hollow point might have been traveling too slow for expansion. But due to its mass carried enough inertia to push through all 3 gel blocks.

    • @investigativeoutcomes9343
      @investigativeoutcomes9343 Рік тому +1

      Those projectiles were designed to expand upon impact with fluid, ballistic gel is not fluid. There i fixed it, now you are smarter.

    • @GregNTech
      @GregNTech Рік тому +3

      @@investigativeoutcomes9343 interesting 🤔, so every other hollow point is designed to expand in gel then?

    • @DH-xw6jp
      @DH-xw6jp Рік тому +6

      ​@@investigativeoutcomes9343except that ballistic gel is specifically designed for testing ammunition... Which includes hollowpoints.

    • @Dan-gs3kg
      @Dan-gs3kg Рік тому

      The twist rate compensates for the slow speed. Which is especially important for the supersonics at 725yd (which a mad lad managed to consistently shoot)

    • @investigativeoutcomes9343
      @investigativeoutcomes9343 Рік тому

      those bullets he is using are designed to only expand in fluid. you know like blood filled muscle with stringy tendons and warm fat.@@GregNTech

  • @starcraft2-bdh863
    @starcraft2-bdh863 Рік тому +4

    Literally the greatest intros of all of youtube history. Fcking love this guy. See you at the MAP festival guys. Well like not in the crowd but like on a roof top looking down at it with a scope 😉

    • @RealMTBAddict
      @RealMTBAddict Рік тому +1

      That's literally your opinion. Which means nothing lol

  • @0ooTheMAXXoo0
    @0ooTheMAXXoo0 Місяць тому +1

    The spin also adds mass to the materials that are spinning.

  • @markmartin4639
    @markmartin4639 Рік тому +9

    Great video. Check out 375 Raptor. Same concept but bigger bullets.

  • @SpookEOD
    @SpookEOD Рік тому +38

    The hollow points would give me cause for concern at anything that may be behind my target that I haven’t seen. That round looks like it’d hardly slow down going through 2-3 people.

    • @Token_Black_Guy
      @Token_Black_Guy Рік тому +8

      What u don't want those call of duty collaterals?

    • @Scroolewse
      @Scroolewse Рік тому +2

      Was that the hollow point in the first ballistics test they did? Tbh I thought "magnum" was something else

    • @SpookEOD
      @SpookEOD Рік тому

      @@Scroolewse The first, second and third ballistics gel tests, lol.

    • @SpookEOD
      @SpookEOD Рік тому

      @@Token_Black_Guy nope and I wouldn’t want the manslaughter charges either.

    • @Scroolewse
      @Scroolewse Рік тому

      @@SpookEOD oh wtf why did a hollow point round do that

  • @Handcannon77
    @Handcannon77 Рік тому +54

    Holy crap is that round and rifle setup absolutely crazy. Just imagine that rifle in an urban warzone(kind of like in the cities of Ukraine right now) and how absolutely terrifying that thing would be as a force multiplier when shooting from a position deep within a building or something. The enemy would legitimately never be able to discern where the fire was coming from during the day, and would only MAYBE have a slightly better chance at night with the proper nightvision or thermal setup. I bet you after the enemy sees a few of their buddies get absolutely smoked through their vests by that thing and not hear or see a god damn thing, theyd be moving quite differently after that. Would be pretty crazy to see what would happen in an active urban warzone if you had 5 or 6 guys equipped with one of those rifles spread out across a city, id imagine theyd be incredibly successful at stopping a force dead in its tracks, including some of their light armored vehicles.
    Would love to see a follow up video on the 8.6 as more R&D is done on it, and as more versions of the round are developed, plus itd just be plain fun to see how much penetration and damage it could do, whether it be on ballistic gel, a pig carcass, concrete wall, light armor, a car etc.

    • @taraswertelecki3786
      @taraswertelecki3786 Рік тому +2

      There's counter-sniper systems that will traces incoming bullets back to their source before a sniper's fist bullet hits. So even with a super quiet and deadly cartridge and suppressed rifle to go with it, a sniper better plan on changing his location immediately after his first shot. Preferably against the soldier with the anti-sniper detection equipment.

    • @demoncet1998
      @demoncet1998 Рік тому +8

      ​@taraswertelecki3786 but is that equipment something the average Russian squad or even platoon would have access to?

    • @exodus030
      @exodus030 Рік тому

      That’s not the kind of equipment that most have 🤣 unless you’re attempting to invade china or the US, I don’t think that system is something to worry about.

    • @Rohan4711
      @Rohan4711 Рік тому +2

      @@taraswertelecki3786 The counter sniper system needs to be deployed with microphones far apart to be accurate. It is mainly used to defend your bases. If you are going into a zone with enemies I don't think it works.

  • @williameldridge9382
    @williameldridge9382 Рік тому +1

    I'm actually going through REE Medical right now!

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      @REEMedicalVets Рік тому

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  • @NotElmerKeith1
    @NotElmerKeith1 Рік тому +8

    So a bolt action 300 BO is pretty darn quiet ---much quieter than in an AR platform. But...this is a very impressive round with some unique roles ahead.