George Chuvalo Talks about his career and says Joe Frazier would have beat the Klitschkos
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Former heavyweight contender who fought Ali, Foreman, and Frazier talks about how Smokin Joe would have gone through the Klitschkos like a hot knife throught butter.
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With all the good and great heavyweights he fought, and the pounding he took in his career, Chuvalo is still thoughtful, well spoken, intelligent. Amazing. Chuvalo never won the world title, but he's still a force of nature.
So true and after having been hit so often the mind of this man is incredible. Forever great George Chuvalo.
Not to mention all the suicides in his past. His wife and one of his sons went at the same time as well as his other sons. Mitch was the only sane one.
This guy's like a walking, talking history book. A 'very interesting guy to listen to and watch. Long live Chuvalo!
No , I knew Frazier won in the 4th, on A TKO very bad eye injury, Joe scored a devistating left hook over Chuvalo's left eye. But who knows what would have happened. Im a Frazier guy, but Chuvalo was a very tough guy. Thew both were small , but
Joe was a little faster and hit very well for a smallish heavyweight. He was relentless, and trained harder than most all the heavyweights of his time. Ran close to 500 miles prparing for Frazier Ali 1, Joe was a true Champ, didnt duck anyone.
Chuvalo was injured from a fighter head butting him under his right eye and broke his orbital bone before fighting fraizer that’s why during their fight chuvalo right eye was bleeding he didn’t recover all the way he only recovered like 2 months.
Frazier would have killed Wlad early, probably would have done to Vitali what he did to Ali in '71.
Would have mopped the floor from pillar to post with him.
I think he's completely right. Guys like Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Lyle, Shavers, and of course Ali - they fought to win. Most fighters today - including the Klitschkos - fight with a risk-averse style. They fight not to lose.
Chuvalo probably had the hardest chin in boxing history.
God bless him. One of the all-time greatest figures in Canadian sports.
For all the batterings he's taken, his speech is still clear, no slurring. very tough guy. no brain damage.
Him and Foreman are definitely built different. Foreman too - totally sharp as a tack and no big signs of trauma despite taking bombs from the hardest punchers for years.
Iron Chuvalo....I don't think Iron Mike is as tough as him.
It's great to see an older guy after so many punches still apparently OK
Yes Yes, Im a big Joes Frazier guy, and Joe beat Chuvalo, but it wasnt easy, I think Joe went the distance with him.Chuvalo was the best Canadien fighter ever in my opinion, i dont think he was ever knocked out.I met Frazier once in his Gym, im 5 11 and i looked down at Joe, so mabey Joe was 5 10 at the most. Joe was really tough guy, always givving up size and weight, reach etc. He had the heart of a lion, fearless in the ring, as so many guys in the 60's. Chuvalo too, Real wariors.
reminds me of robert deniro lol! especially the laugh with the tongue haha, class act george!
am i the only one amazed this guy is past 60, tough some heavy punches in his career and looks as healthy as anything, amazing how tough chuvalo was, greatest chin in boxing no doubt
Awesome man and fighter. Love this guy. Ali, Frazier, Foreman and Chuvalo 4 great men and fighters. Sixties and seventies great eras in boxing heavyweight division.
Proper Gentleman. And definitely not punchy.
The heavyweight division has been a joke since the 2000s.
More or less since the day Lennox Lewis retired.
I agree with George. If Ross Purity and Chris Byrd can win Joe would bust them up
I disagree the Klitschkos would've pounded these 70s heavyweights too tall too strong too athletic too smart too in shape . Now how the hell can you beat that
He was usually shorter but, check the stats, he knocked out 95% of those he outweighed and that was most of his opponents.
horrible, amateurish interviewer. in boxing there are no absolutes, no real superaltives. Here, George could only comment on guys he saw, guys he fought. he never saw monsters like tyson fury etc. u just cant compare
Tyson F...hahahah what a joke
Klits equal crap..Joe would never lose to Byrd or Purity lmao
young foreman would go through vlad like a bad curry! vitali would be a much better fight because he can take a punch better but foreman would still ko him imo. you dont understand just how destructive young foreman was he was a fucking monster!
old foreman gets interesting i still think hed ko vlad because he was still 1 of the hardest punchers in history with either hand and any punch!. vitali again would be a much better fight and could go the distance if he could stay away long enough
Respect to you George chuvalo
true//heavyweight boxing is a joke nowadays//Ali in 66 vs chuvalo Ali threw over 100 punches and landed just about 100 in round 15 alone while wilder vs fury 1 Total Punches in 12 rounds from fury was 332
I've never seen Vitali Klitschko do anything but sticking out that jab, keeping his opponent at distance and then crossing, Sometimes it is almost as if he has only one arm. I don't see what he could do against a skilled pressure fighter. Maybe he'd have an answer but we'll never know, because there isn't any around. I haven't seen a boxer who is able to fight on the inside in years.
Boxing today has become a joke, especially the heavyweight division. There are way to many titles in way to many weight classes and still you see the top names dodging each other and holding on to their carefully manufactured, picture perfect records.
So true! Fight in the inside is something of the past really!
I agree 100 percent with everything u said. I think someone like Tua or Tyson or Frazier would be a nightmare stylistically for Kilitchko
Vital was close to beating Lewis.
Lewis was a machine
great canadian
Klitchkos wouldve kept holding him when he got close,and the refs would let them excessively hold.which wouldve made it hard for joe to score.
@skaha77 You are correct...
from training... to sport nutrition, and (drugs) etcetera.
It's a blessing with all the punishment he took that he's able to recall dates precisely.
George Chuvalo is definitely right. Frazier would beat the Klistchko brothers...
@combatesdeboxeo charlieboxing
Dempsey was a skilled bob/weave, pressure fighter with footwork, power, and speed.
@combatesdeboxeo charlieboxing
Oldschool fighters had better inside ability, parrying, stamina, etc....
I love dis guy too great man !
holyfield had a great fight with foreman and took some shots that wouldve killed people! dont underestimate holyfields skill and toughness he was excellent technically and much faster than the klitchkos. i personally think vlad would beat holy but vitali would lose on points.
i think young foreman would crush either brother and old foreman would ko vlad vitali could outpoint george though IF george didnt catch him
Yes, but Holyfield fought OLD George. Not the young George of 1970-1973.
@mrcsirron Just watch the fights of the Klitschko's. If Wladimir faces a tall guy with some reflexes and power just like Corrie Sanders, he gets beaten to a pulp. He ducked Corrie for a rematch and let his brother do the work. Vitali, on the other hand, is a good champion. He has a good chin and power. I doubt if he has that much heart, because he stopped against Byrd for a shoulder injury while Ali fought 8 rounds with a broken jaw. They would have been no match for Ali and other ATG
Well now Vitali is staying in Ukraine and fighting, think he has heart lol.
Exactly.
Foreman was approx. 225 pounds in his prime. Weight classes do exist in Boxing. Vlad of today would beat him (245-250 lbs). Tyson lost to guys who were bigger than him (Holyfield, Lewis, Douglas)... no matter how hard he hit! Foreman never faced an opponent bigger than him - he was the monster back in the day. It's all conjecture anyhow. It's always the same old anyhow... past greats can always beat current greats - RIGHT! Everything about current champs today is better.
Foreman faced a bigger Chuck Wepner early in his career; and a taller Gerry Cooney in his 2nd act in 1990.
George Foreman in his prime (1972-1974) could *BEAT* any current fighter today. George was *STRONG* , could *PUNCH* , and could *TAKE* a punch. Don't forget his strength. He outmuscled every fighter who got in close.
The two klitchkos brothers were both a bunch of bums.
Joe Fraized beat Buster Mathis and he was almost 300lbs. It wasn't Goerge Formans size, his style was just a bad match up for Fraizer.
@@jamesanthony5681 It would be interesting to watch. Foreman looked so much larger in that era because he was. But Ali showed he lacked Stamina (in the Ali fight)!
@@jamesanthony5681 The Greats are always competitive beyond weight class. Ali, lying on the ropes against guys much bigger today wouldn't be successful. Ali/Foreman are only being compared against their foes of the day which are much smaller then todays era! Even Usyk comes in at 233 pounds at around 6 foot 2.5... Where George was 6 foot 3, 225 pounds back in the day (and the biggest).
@combatesdeboxeo Haha. Stop commenting so much man. I'm not going to read it all. All I can say is that you are crazy if you think these Klitschko's are really that great. Ali in his prime would take them out. Tyson would too. Frazier would. Why do you think they are so great?
They lack heart, one of them has no chin, no footwork, no speed, not even great stamina, they are slow, no quickness, throwing not that many jabs or punches.. They are just big, that is there advantage.
Frazier would not be allowed to fight either of them, being blind in one eye.
Sorry mate, my mistake.
As it is, Chuvalo had possibly the hardest chin of any heavyweight bar possibly Oliver McCall or Vitali Klitshcko. None of these men have ever been on the canvas.
Frazier would probably be a cruiserweight if he was around today.
Frazier was short for a heavyweight but was heavier than most of his 60s opponents.
The only chin to rival the chin of Chvalo was David Tua or Cabbage from MMA.
Both Vitali Klitschko and Oliver McCall have never been knocked down
he looks totally fantastic
haha it's the slowest tempo i've ever seen in my life... SO TRUE about the damn Klitschkos
The Klitschkos would have handled Smokin Joe easier than Big George.
@@chucknchar they wouldn’t.
@@chucknchar Foreman could punch and could take a punch. Kenny Norton hit Foreman with everything he had and George kept moving forward. How'd that fight turn out? Sorry, Foreman could take anyone today.
The Klitschkos were both a bunch of bums. Neither one of them learned how to fight professionally. Both fought until the end of their careers like they were still in the amateur ranks.
Joe Frazier would definitely beat the Klitschkos, he'd eat a lot of shots the way Lamon Brewster did in his first fight with Wladimir, but in the end, he'd roll over them in the exact same manner... Props to Brewster for having the heart and courage to face and defeat a great fighter like Wladimir Klitschko...
The Klitschkos were both bums.
@@parkerbohnn I disagree. They were great fighters, who dominated the heavyweight division for years.
@@truebeliever786 Neither learned the professional style of boxing. They were bums and the rest were as big a bums as they were. The dark era for the heavyweight division after Lennox Lewis retired. They were both clueless fighters who never made the jump from the amateur ranks to the pros. Both were big galoots.
@@truebeliever786 What would you know? I know George and worked with his son Mitchell at Sully's gym in Toronto. I knew all his brothers and his wife when they were still alive. Mitch just retired from teaching physed at Western Tech. George knows boxing and has the two Klitschkos pegged right. I even uploaded a video of Mitch way back from when he was around 22 years old on youtube.
@@parkerbohnn While the competition may have been a bit stale after Lennox left the scene, the Klitschkos were certainly not bums, they were freaking bombs, especially Vitali who had both a fist and a jaw made of granite (the only 2 times he lost were against Chris Byrd because he tore his rotator cuff and Lennox Lewis, because his eyelid was cut badly, but he was still winning those 2 fights up until the point of stoppage).
Wow ...the Klitzchko bros r good fighters but u really gotta be on something to think they would beat any of the heavyweight greats .... Tyson may have a slight oz of trouble because of their size but hed just work the body and drop em in 6... Holyfield, Ali, Frazier, Foreman would punish them... theyve never faught any skilled speed n size fighters like them. And the further back u go the worse it would be for them... they used to go 15 rds and even 30 rds in the 00s thru 60s.Power n skill kill
lol the comments about the world I guess eastern Europe taking up boxing in the 1990's lol come on I like the Klitchko's and respect them but you have to start respecting boxing itself! I know and can tell you don't like Ali but truth is during his time boxing was way up there as far a a spectator sport worldwide..I first Ali Frazier fight biggest fight ever bar none. Nobody even watchers the heavyweights at all only the mayweather fights and other fights in his division. I know Klitchko needs an fighter to fight but nobody wants to box professional anymore those guys are playing football
I guess Cory Sanders must be better than Joe Frazier lol Larry Holmes would kill both Klitchko's even by letting each one of them fight at the same time one round each you do not understand that weight doesn't mean much once you are over 200lbs. A man 100 lbs punches much weaker than a 200lbs man....A man at 300lbs does not punch harder than a 200 pound man.
you think the klitchkos would crush foreman or ali?? LOL wtf have you been drinking/snorting/injecting??
Ali would have them both on their hands and knees with them begging for their lives.
Klitschkos would destroy Ali or Foreman too big too strong too athletic . Do you really think Leon Spinks could beat Klitschkos
@@williammedve5934 yiuce just demonstrated you dont know shit about boxing lol
And also boxing is not like football or even basketball it's much different with fighting skill style heart..and it has changed the least of all the sports..This weight THING is only involving the heavyweights what about all the other weight classes where the weight-in actually means something..The Klitchko's are not too big or strong for anyone...Looks like there's plenty of racial overtones as well because of whites really not being a force in the heavyweight division since Marciano.
in english and i can see its pretty shit now! klitchkos are good but not atg
haye was a great light heavy but not that good at heavy. i think david price COULD become very good but beyond that its just meh
I love this guy!
Chuvalo didn't say Frazier would BEAT him... just UNDERSTATEDLY said he didn't think he'd stand Frazier's heat. Chuvalo's a tough guy with one of or maybe the best chin ever in heavyweight history -- he's being a little respectful to his generation - while INDIRECTLY heralding himself by making such a comparison. Watching some old Frazier fights today because of his death today - but beating the KLITS - PLEASE GIVE IT A REST PEOPLE!
he is a flafship guy for boxing. he faced everybody in the golden years of boxing, took tremendous punichment. now at the age of 72, he looks like 50 and remembers every date and every name, of everybody who ever fought.
Fraiser being 5'11 would be a problem.
if he could land that hook then its lights out. the question is COULD HE thats the debate.
if he worked the body he could hurt them too hell even chisora gave vitali a decent fight and made him look average tbh. it looked like the body shots really slowed vitali down and he spent most of the fight just fending him off unable to finish him
Power and Defence -Tyson
Strenght and Size-Foreman
Cardio and Speed-Ali
Heart and Endurance-Fraizer
Accuracy and Reach-Holmes
What about ability to take a punch?
@@jamesanthony5681 Quarry.
@@waynej2608 Ali. His greatest and most underrated asset.
@BabyTua So the Golden Years of boxing is when North America dominated it - of course! But when the rest of the world takes up the sport it's sub-par now - RIGHT! Well, in another context, the Klitschko's are from Ukraine which has GOLD in their NATIONS FLAG (how IRONIC)! Vitali has the greatest STATS ALL-TIME from every GENERATION of fighters (read my other posts). Stop knocking them and show a little respect! I like Chuvalo, but that's a sneaky way of BEEFING himself up against todays fightrs
The Klitschko's were both a bunch of bums and today a punch drunk is the mayor of the Ukraine watching all his people die because Zelensky was too stupid to surrender to Russia.
cooper did indeed nail ali with a peach of a hook (as did frazier)
i think ali was saved by the bell that round BUT its a myth that dundee cut alis glove. it was already cut theres a pic of it somewhere.
ali was less skilled than the klits? LOL you need to watch alis footwork
ali was FAR too fast and too tough for the klits hed win on points and maybe ko vlad.
wtf does ali beating foreman have to do with the klits?
Take a second look at that 1st Cooper fight.
Henry knocked Clay/(Ali) down into the ropes at the end of the 4th round, but he got up within 3 seconds *AND* walked - wasn't stretchered or wheelchaired - to his corner. Clay/(Ali) took exactly 65 seconds between rounds, or 5 more seconds than allowed, and *NOT* 2 1/2 minutes that Cooper had been saying all these years. Ali/(Clay) would have survived had the knockdown occurred earlier in the round.
i dont have a problem with them at all theyr good champions who beat whats put in front of them i just dont think theyr all time greats.
ps im neither racist or american im from the uk.
youre correct its all conjecture and well never know but we can make educated guesses
Both went down in history as a couple of bums.
The Klitz bros. havent faught anyone worth mentioning... They wouldnt beat any greats...the fights would be different, all the greats had power and agility and stamina foreman, frazier, Lewis had power, Ali N Holyfield had both pow n skill n STAMINA in the later rounds they dig deep to win oh n all had chins
They only fought Lennox Lewis and the corner had to throw in the towel before Lewis put him in the cemetery.
I thought you thought that Frazier won on points.
Yeah So whats your point???
Sorry to dissapoint you but Frazier was smaller tha n 95% of his foes. main reason he was so good, & gave up height and reach to most of his opponents.
No he was 5’11 and 229 lbs. He was short for a boxer but he was a big guy.
George Chuvalo looks real good for his age.
CURRENT CHAMPS ARE LAMERS!
what happened to his family?
@teleman84
great point!
Smoking joe would be just that."SMOKED"..either Klitchko would light him up....Frazier had a hard time was even almost dropped and losing the fight after 7 rounds with Buster Mathis an out of shape 240 pounder at 6'4 ...against 6'7 250 Klitchko?Well if you really think 205 one arm frazier has a remote chance watch that fight or the Bonevena fight where he is dropped...Fraziers chin is questionable and he had a 50% k.o record against 210 plus pounders,he would not hurt them and both klitchkos are power punchers and would end Frazier quicker than 220 Foreman did,no way fraizer stands up to the steel hammers punches,or doctor iron fists constant ones.If you really want an insight on this match up go watch rocky 4....it'll be a real version of Drago vs Creed! lol
***** lol....
Negative. Smokin' Joe Frazier was the greatest swarmer in fight history. Then that earth rocking left hook that ended so many fights and sent so many prize fighters into early retirement. They just don't build them that perfect and that devastating today. Who could beat Joe Frazier today?? No one.
Mauserman Anderson Frazier only had a 50% k.o record according to what MODERN Heavyweights would weigh...he was tough but the best swarmer?nmot really ...tenacious but on Tysons level,not even close.
+Will Marini
Buster Mathis was a lot faster than the Klitchko's. He moved very well for such large guy. Weight isn't everything, and you should have learned this when James Tillis took Mike Tyson for the full fight only weighing 207, without getting knocked out. Frazier's chin is great. George Foreman knocked him down 6 times, and Joe kept getting back up. HE was getting nailed and bombed by one of the heaviest hitters ever.
Ditto, King.
The older we get, the better we were.
Jones did have a shot at the Light Heavyweight Title and Lost.
His reflexes went at age 36. Very sad to see he should have retired before his reflexes went. He would have knocked out Calzaghe in 3 rounds or less in his prime.
Frazier beat Chuvalo when the Canadian suffered an eye injury.
He *GAVE* Chuvalo the eye injury.
@@jamesanthony5681 I know he gave him the injury. In fact, Chuvalo had a slight injury before entering the ring, unknowingly. Frazier's punches made it worse
@@BruceinFalkirk Ok. Thanks!
@teleman84 What would Frazier do with that bob-up and down style (being around 5 foot 11)... hit KLIT in the stomach all night! Vitali Klit has the greatest STATS EVER of all heavyweights of all GENERATIONS... He's only lost a few rounds in over 45 fights with a 90+ percent KO ratio, along with his connect stats. Don't give me the crap the quality ain't there -- what REALLY ISN'T THERE ARE AMERICANS -- look at the stats -- barely any fighters in any weight classes holding a world title!
No, Frazier would not beat the Klitschkos as he was blind in one eye and would not be allowed to compete in the modern era.
Being legally blind in one eye is different than being totally blind in one eye. IF, and thats a BIG IF, if that did stop him, it would be the ONLY thing besides Foreman that WOULD stop Frazier.....
@@milojanis4901 Ali stopped Frazier, did you not notice that?
And the Klitschkos are far too big and far too strong for Frazier, even if Frazier was allowed to fight, if Frazier was fully sighted in both eyes.
foreman lyle is the best war iv ever seen its a GREAT fight.
size helps but its by no means everything its only 1 piece of the puzzle
Chuvalo's weight ranged from 202 pounds to 232 pounds... if I remember correctly in his title bouts he was around 210 pounds. His last big performance was in 1972 against Ali (who was around 215 pounds and 233 pounds approx. at the end of his career)... he went on to fight till 1979... where he probably weighed 232 pounds. Ali went up in weight to, and took a beating at the end of his career.
How could Ali go up in weight when he was already a heavyweight Greg?? Ali took a beating at the end bec he was old, and sick already. Had nothing to do with weight. Ali weighed around the same from 1972-81 and it wasn't a factor.
Ali's last good fight was in Manila in 1975, but even then he was on a steady decline. He didn't want to fight Foreman a second time, wanted no part of Larry Holmes, and was fortunate to get a decision over Norton in NYC.
@@jimhabsfan Ali knew he couldn't beat Norton, and Larry Holmes was waiting in the wings for a title shot, being 25-0 or 30-0 or whatever it was. Yes, even the rematch with Spinks was close as I recall.
Joe Frazier would have been knocked out in the first round by either of the Klitschkos!
Nah too small
@@emmanuelkapitao9024 big lumbering sloppy men that were nowhere near the athletic giants we have today
NEXT
@@emmanuelkapitao9024 assumptions but your a clear casual 25+ years of knowledge and experience
The likes of Jesse Willard wouldn’t last 2 rounds with ANY of the champions of today
They were good men for there time but would be journeymen in today’s standards
Now the answer to the actual video would Frazier beat the klitchko brothers in they prime?
Seems pretty doubtful due to there ATHLETIC big and powerful size they are hardly stiffs like Willard or carnera
I admit it’s easy to be blinded by nostalgia but you need to take those nostalgia glasses off when it comes to debating current and past champions otherwise you sound like a rambling idiot.
@@emmanuelkapitao9024 also he would had been known because he would had chinned chinny Norton and probably would had chinned chinny shavers aswell
Take those nostalgia glasses off.
Buster Mathis was 6’3” and almost 300lbs. Joe Friazer knocked him out. So he has clearly beaten bigger boxers.
@greg12145 klitschko brothers wouldn't stand a chance against any top ten fighter from the golden era. they've never faced opposition in the same league as guys like Ali, Foreman, Quarry, Patterson, Chuvalo, Frazier, Bonavena, Ramos, Mathis, Liston, etc. They happened to come at a time when the heavyweight era is literally at its worst point in history. I'll give them credit for dominating right now, though.
Jess I'm afraid that none of those hvywts old stand a chance vs the Klitschkos. First of all Foreman was an arm puncher strong but amateurish not putting his legs or body into his punches plus getting gassed after 6 rounds. He couldn't even beat Tommy Morrison or Jimmy Young. Quarry a punching bag. Chuvalo thinks he's better than what he is vs the Klitschkos come on don't make me laugh . Me vs Chuvalo would be more of a closer fight than Klitschko vs Chuvalo . Patterson no comment . Bonavena what? He can't punch. Frazier and Ali too small and not as strong. NOW the 70s lt hvywts were far better than the current lt hvywts
@teleman84 I'm from Toronto, Canada (where Chuvalo's from) and 43; NONE of them from the 60's and 70's could EVER beat the KLITS; the biggest guy back then was Foreman around 223 pounds; they'd get crushed; watch their fights; he says Fraziers heat would be the problem - PLEASE (205 pound heat); Chuvalo's just being RESPECTFUL to his GENERATION of fighters -- GET REAL! Look at Vitali's STATS; they're the BEST EVER IN HEAVYWEIGHT HISTORY! It's tiring to HEAR the NA KLIT disrespect bandwagon!
@@emmanuelkapitao9024 idiot!
@@emmanuelkapitao9024 I won't respond to an 'idiot' account with no activity!
But I'll digress... The world Amateur Champions in boxing have come from the Eastern block for over 60 years... They weren't allowed to fight professionally (back in the day)!
That (Ali, Frazier, etc.) era was great... but it lacked competition from abroad... it was just American fighters fighting!
The Klitschkos and most of the recent heavyweight division are agricultural fairground fighters when compared to the fighters of the past; with the exception of Evander Hollyfield....Tyson too, would barely make it onto that bus.
They're both stooges who never made the transition from amateur to professional boxing.
vlad would crumble the 1st time foreman hit him!
foreman was tough as hell too
No. Vlad's size would pose a bit of a problem, but I believe George would have figured him out and beaten him.
Proved that against lyle
@@brucemedley635 absolutely
Stop commenting... it's all conjecture... what is your REAL PROBLEM with the Klits... are you racist or just an overly patriotic American!
@statixify "He (Frazier) would go through 'em like a dose of salts. No question."
My point... which should have been obvious... is that a Quality Big Man will beat the same smaller most times. That's why I inferred about Cooper not being as good (idiot)I shouldn't have to explain stuff like that... okay genius! Stop commenting with your nonsense! Maybe Vlad would get beaten when tagged, maybe not! One BIG DUDE Foreman ever faced, the biggest he ever faced, Ron Lyle dropped Foreman a number of times before he fell all within 4 rounds.Watch it - great fight - one of my favs
The biggest he ever faced? Foreman did face a big 'dude' in 6'6" Cooney in his second go around in 1990. Gerry had a terrific left hook. Foreman faced other big men, however, not the hard puncher as Lyle.
Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes were all great fighters & exciting to watch but there a good chance Klitchko could beat all of them. Too big & he sticks to his gameplan.
+jmarcguy do you think for a moment that the lumbering one-dimensional Klitschkos would have put a glove on the young Ali ? And the 'old' Ali developed new plans and beat Foreman who was an infinitely heavier puncher than either Klitschko.
yeah sure buddy! LOL
I can’t tell you how many times I dozed off watching the Klitchkos. I’m not a fan. I just think they fight a style where they don’t take any risks and would be tough to beat because of their size. They’re not going to expose themselves to any punches and they just box from the outside. Mayweather has the same style but he doesn’t have a size advantage over old school boxers. Hearns would blast him out every time.
Think fighters of that era were tougher look at the comeback of Foreman but them again the fighters nowadays are much bigger are more professional have more equipment etc.
Neither one of them learned to box. They weren't even worthy to shine the boots of the past champions.
Henry Cooper knocked out Ali in the 4th round (Angelo Dundee cut his glove so Ali had an extra 4 minutes between rounds to recover, or else he was toast in the next round)... he was a big man with nowhere near the abilities of the Klits! Ali also lost to another European early in his career, but was given the decision. Ali beat foreman.. I'm 45, I've watched plenty of boxing in my time. The Klits would beat either of them! Doing comparisons is ultimately useless anyhow - so don't bother me!
Henry Cooper knocked out Ali (then Cassius Clay)? Not true. He knocked Clay down (in the ropes) at the end of the 4th round, on June 18/63 . Go back and review the fight. By my watch, Dundee took 65 seconds between rounds 4 and 5, and not 2 1/2 minutes that Cooper had been saying for all the years since.
You don't know shit Greg!
Chuvalo would be a cruiserweight today, like Frazier and others. Tyson at 215 to 222 pounds is small today. They almost need a new super-heavyweight category. Weight classes do exist in boxing and MMA for a reason. Guaranteed, if Chuvalo fought in this era he'd cut to cruiserweight to be competitive! He'd be too small! Not knocking Chuvalo whatsoever -- I'm from Toronto too where he's from... but that would happen.
No. George wouldn't be a cruiserweight because there's no money there. Chuvalo would have gained weight and fought at 220, 225 rather than fight at 200-215, in order to compete better against the bigger guys.
Tyson is short in size, but he had speed and knockout power. In his peak years 1985-1989, he slipped the other fighter's first punch and countered with his left or right very effectively. The other guy quickly knew that if he threw a punch, then he was going to get punched back, immediately. And *HARDER* .
@@jamesanthony5681 Good enough explanation!
Respond to this video... Vitali Klitschko is 41... still holds the World Title... in 45 fights has lost a few rounds (two against Lennox)... has a 90+ percent KO ratio, technically no-one has ever beaten him; has been WORLD KICK-BOXING CHAMPION before he came into boxing. Has a PHD, and a Twin World Champion brother with a PHD - when do you think you'll EVER SEE THAT AGAIN IN SPORT! Maybe NEVER!
How can they be twins? Vlad is 5 years older
@@rickrick5041 Twin means in this context a brother with a World Championship as well... I should have worded that sentence better.
@@greg12145 the klikshkos suck and ukraine sucks, russia is kicking their ass
Both Wladimir and Vitali would've mangled Frazier in one round easily... Frazier was a blind, one-handed small cruiser who avoided punchers for a reason, the Klitschko's brothers are extremely athletic, powerful, skilled super-heavyweights, no chance whatsoever... Chuvalo just biased to his era, understandable, but things change and athletes got bigger, faster, stronger...
Somebody here mentioned the Foreman-Lyle fight. That was a GREAT fight. I think Ron would have knocked Foreman out but he ran out of gas. As soon as Lyle’s tank was empty he got trapped in a corner and George rained punches on him until the Denver, Colorado slugger just buckled under the onslaught. Up until the point that Ron ran out of energy he was definitely getting the better of George.
No mate he could not and not gas ran out he had great gas for 10 rounds he was just bitten by George fair and square and do not forget when George had Lyle in trouble bell rang 1 minute before round end.and Lyle was saved.
@@dankemo3169 The two minute round did help Lyle. After the fight, Ron tried to get a rematch but George wanted nothing to do with him. Two great sluggers.
Lyle also fought Earnie Shavers, another titanic slugger. Lyle said years later that Shavers hit harder than any man he ever fought.
@@yourroyalhighness7662 I know what he said about Shavers. but the rematch story is BULLSHIT George was 4th contender(after year and a half retirmand) and Lyle 5th contender. George bit him and now he could fight the best man in the division *Joe Frazier* 2nd contender he bit him, Frazier, and then against 1st contender *Ken Norton* but Ken ducked him (i guess you know why) and George became 1st contender himself, by that he become a mandatory challenger in 1976 but Ali did not fight him. So why George Would fight a guy who was ranked in 5th contender in 1976 when he already won a match against him.
if you are interested in what Ali was doing in 1976. he fought the second and third contenders and two unranked Boxers but did not fought the first guy and mandatory challenger Foreman. but in 1977 he was talled to fight Foreman but he chose to fight 8th contender *Alfredo Evangelista*. Goerge Lost against Young by his stupidity and the end of the story.
@@dankemo3169 George proved to the world that he was a dirty fighter when he fought Young. In the clinches he appeared to be trying to break one of Young's arms.
Howard Cosell, who really loved George, refused to see what was right in front of him but the co-announcer for the broadcast, Chris Shenkel, DID see it. George fought dirty. He hit Joe "King" Roman when he had him down, he did the same to Norton. You know what he did to Young. He pushed Frazier away in their fights, especially the first one, repeatedly. He TRIED to rough up Ali but learnef that Muhammad was far stronger than George realized.
George was not a clean fighter.
@@yourroyalhighness7662 I mean I do not know how your answer says something? did I ask if he was a dirty fighter? José Roman gets bitten up fair and square and if George hit him when he was down hahaha my boy this not dirty at all this happens and he did ones he got up and then get down against for good. he pushed Frazier?? these are old tactics you can push your opponent on arms on shoulders.
he was cleaner than many my friend. I tell you what is illegal is holding behind the neck and holding behind the neck and Ali did it against Frazier 145 times why you do not talk about that. or why you do not talk about how many times poked someone's eye?? or when he pushed George and hold George behind the neck or when Ali hit him behind the head?
Ken Norton go and tell me a second when he did an illegal punch ua-cam.com/video/QGhXIDRYzO8/v-deo.html here video and show me illegal punch and were commentators complain?
And why you even start talking about a Dirty fight. I answered your claim for a rematch. this the answer?
foreman-BIG guy
Fraizier-was smokin
Ali-was the greatesty
holyfield-he was the real deal
Lewis- was the lion
Who was the Tin Man and the Scarecrow?