Legends of Boxing Joe Frazier and George Chuvallo Talk Glory Days of Heavyweight Boxing
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- On this special edition of TruFan Boxing J. Monte sits down with former heavyweight boxers George Chuvallo and "Smokin" Joe Frazier to reminisce about their fight in Madison Square Garden that took place on July 19th, 1967, and other topics from their glory days, like facing Muhammad Ali.
The more I watch joe Frazer the more I like him, there was no bull shit with him what you saw was what you got
Yeah, and a humble guy too.
Two absolute fucking legends. Today's heavyweights don't have shit on these guys.
Two of the Classiest fighters ever.
My two favorite boxers of all times. Tough as heck and humble and the same kind of style in a way
Two Great Heavyweights R.I.P. Joe Frazier
George's mind is still as sharp as a whip.Even after all these years.I love these two WARRIORS. Without a doubt, that was the greatest era of HEAVYWEIGHTS 🤑💪💪💪💯💯💯.
Chuvalo currently has advanced dementia.
I have a huge respect to Mr. Chuvalo ( The shoots from outside boxing life, that He took are pure horror ) Only the mentally strongest people could survive
It's great to see these two old battlers together with no hard feelings from either man. George was still mentally sharp in this interview, Joe was another story though. I'm no Doctor, but looking at Joe and hearing him speak, indicated that there was probably some brain damage from the awesome power hitters Joe faced in his career. George had many more fights than Joe did, and took a lot more punches in his lengthy career than Joe ever did. George was fortunate to get out of the business with his head still straight. Damn, what a brawler both of these warriors were! These two battlers faced the same fighters, like George Foreman, Ali, Doug Jones, Jerry Quarry, Manuel Ramos, and Buster Mathis. Joe fought maybe 4-fights too many whereas George was still knocking them stupid even in his las fight.Many thanks for this wonderful video.
Not sure about Frazier in this interview. Possibly he had some brain damage. But he was a heavy drinker and I wondered if Frazier might be under the influence here. Frazier did die from liver failure.
Anybody that can step in against Foreman, Frazier and Ali and never get carried out is a bad mother.
JOE was from my Home Town, of Beaufort, S.C. He had a Large Plantation here.. as a Young fighter of 17 years, was introdused to Joe, and was invited to go and workout with him at the plantation.. Great Guy! He was VERY Down to Earth! I miss him.. R.I.P..
I've never understood how some of these fighters could be hit so hard & still speak fluently & live long lives. Schmelling lived to 99, Dempsey & Tunney around 80.Chuvalo was speaking so fluently one would never believe how often & hard he was punched. His memory was good too. Tragic family though; 3 sons I think gone to drugs.
Chuvalo's fights outside of the ring are much tougher than any of those he faced inside the ring. He lost one son by suicide with a firearm, (he was a heroin addict), two sons by heroin overdose and his wife committed suicide with prescription drugs. Chuvalo lost over half of his family through drugs. I pray for George.
I've always enjoyed hearing "the old guys" tell boxing stories
great guys !!!!
Фрейзер мужик!красавчик!
Funny how Chulvalo took more punishment that Frazier, but his speech seemed unaffected. Frazier, on the other hand, has speech affected by time and punishment.
rip joe
Legends!
George was the only guy apart from Patterson that fought Ali before and after his exile. I’d love to know how Chuvalo compared pre 1970 Ali to post 1970 Ali?
@muhammad ali largest collection in the world Good to know. Gee, they didn’t mention above, big George Foreman as a common opponent.
Joe was such a loveable person
Surprised that when they called out their common opponents they forgot to say George Foreman.. Foreman blasted through both of them.. & was one of the 2 to only beat Frazier..
This wasn't a "forget". Casualists should know they had other unmentioned common opponents: Ellis, Bonavena, Doug Jones, Wipperman, Turnbow and Mike Bruce. Trying to read too much into that...
@@diogenestonguewag59 GEORGE FOREMAN is not an unmentionable "common oppenent" (like those others you googled).. Foreman wrecked BOTH OF THEM... & know who to apply that tired overused unoriginal "casual" label to, bro.. i done forgot more boxing then you'll ever know.. trust me
@@reoscorpio If you have to tell me to trust you...I didn't call you a casualist, just that they "too" should know. Rale on!
@@diogenestonguewag59 Ok, whatever..
WOW two great fighters two great guys.
They both fought George Foreman. Surprised that conversation didn't come up.
I am not, as they both also fought Ellis, Bonavena, Doug Jones, Mel Turnbow, Dick Wipperman and Mike Bruce. Can't mention everyone in a short casual conversation.
RIP Joe frazier and ALI
How can you not Love and respect Joe Frazier, I'll never forgive that POS ali for trying to humiliate and denigrate him, hype or not, just wasn't right.
Chuvalo's skull must be made of solid GRANITE. He took so many massive punches...never went down and still talks fine..he doesn't sound punchy at all.
....both fought George Foreman...
Both forgot to mention george foreman...
This wasn't a "forget". Casualists should know they had other unmentioned common opponents: Ellis, Bonavena, Doug Jones, Wipperman, Turnbow and Mike Bruce. Trying to read too much into that...
big geroge chuvalo
If George was faster he would have been World champion but he was very slow
That's what i'm thinking . If he had the defense of Ali and power of Foreman or Shavers he's be scary .
man , so hard to understand what joe frazier is saying .
That's a direct result of fighting Ali 3 times and Foreman twice.
FE-FI-FO-FUM
MegaSmarterthanyou- If you're so smart, why don't you think sometimes? That didn't need to be said.
Mega, show some respect to one of the greatest boxers of all time!
Sounds fine to me
two great human beings here, and two great fighters. joe pointing out that george was vulnerable on cuts is stating the truth, as george chuvalo had one hell of a granite chin. never dropped, and yet he fought all the greats, winning some and losing some, but always fighting with guts and determination.
Considering his style of boxing George has kept his marbles. Hard life but a kind and considerate human.
George caught a lot of punches on his arms & gloves. A much smarter fighter than he is credited for!
He had an iron chin that’s for sure
Kept his marbles lol
@@peteincanada8412 Now yeah , cause he has dimentia . The guy's like , in his 80's
Chuvalo had some issues but his family did a good job of keeping it private. He was good when it came to talking boxing or recalling the past but his short term memory was shot.
Chuvalo's memory is excellent, he remembers all the dates of his fights.
Sadly, you're wrong. Chuvalo is confined to a Toronto nursing home, suffering from the advanced stages of dementia.
@@richardweiler6931maybe due to his age rather than boxing injurues
Love " Smokin " Joe. My all time favorite fighter . He was a class act.
George Chuvalo my hero - what that man has been through with his family is horrendous and he's a true man and gentleman.
You're telling me., What a family horror story outside of the ring.
Croatia! 🇭🇷 Luck Mate Parlov!
I meet Geroge on several occasions over the yrs of boxing n even had a few whiskeys with the man, WHAT A KIND SOUL!.. We had him come evey yr to our club shows. Today BIG GEROGE is in a retirement home with Dementia, PLZ PRAY FOR OUR CANADIAN CHAMP!... WE LOVE U GEORGE ❤ 💯🥊🥊
He's absolutely one of the classiest guys. To go through what he did and still be kind to thoughtful like he is, is unheard of. Hope he is at least comfortable. He deserves that much
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I remember being a kid and George coming around to clubs across Canada to talk to u fighters about drugs after he lost his son. After he had he initional speech/talk with he clubs we all went through a workout led by him. Amazing man, very kind, generous and passionate.
Real great men here! Joe and George were tough and earned their respect! Joe was right, young people today got no one left! Boxing repeating history again from the golden era back to the bronze!
Two boxers and gentlemen
Chuvalo still has ALL of his marbles. He wasn't a great fighter but a very tough one. Some guys are just built for boxing. Chuvalo was like that. He was never knocked down. He had an iron chin.
Both also fought Foreman. Holmes and Tyson never fought Foreman in his prime nor did they face Ali and Frazier in their prime. Indeed the heavyweight boxers from the 1920's to the 1970's were the best ever. All before the Las Vegas crap took over everything.
I think that the days of Joe Lewis, Dempsey, Marciano were great but the best Era of Heavyweight Boxing was the 60s to the Mid 80s..That's when the division was the most talented and had the most depth.. With the exception of Tyson and Holyfield
Great Interview. Thanks very much.
They both fought George Foreman, too.
Great guys and a great Era indeed it was. These guys are immortal and will live for ever in the hearts of Boxing fans.
Nice interview thanks for posting.2 classy fighters and a respectful interviewer.
That's classic, George is the best...man, Joe Frazier had a wicked left hook.
It pains me to see a Joe looking and sounding so bad. Look and listen to Chuvalo by comparison. These two men were not boxers. They were FIGHTERS!
Your Royal Highness Sadly, finally, George is showing the signs of paying the price for his anvil chin now in 2019. His brain was strong enough to shrug off the damage other boxers brains have acquired over their career....until now.
@@Chief2Moon Is he really showing signs of dementia? The last video i saw of George was one in which the country that he was originally from was honoring him with a statue. He seemed ok then. Not sure exactly when that was.
Your Royal Highness I've read that George's daughter released a statement saying he'd make no more public appearances& they'd hired additional in-home help to care for him because his mental processes had deteriorated significantly over the last year. Joe Rogan also mentioned George on a podcast discussing CTE & brain trauma among participants of combat sports. At 77 George had been amazingly resistant to bad results despite being hit by some of the hardest punchers in boxing history over his long career. He remained funny,quick witted& had a great memory of every fight. I too am saddened to hear that now this granite mountain is developing serious cracks. I never heard George sound "punchy" like so many other fighters in their 50's&60's sometimes do, and as you say, the last time I saw him speak on a video he seemed solid. I understand his daughter said she'll "never throw him in a nursing home".
Your Royal Highness There's also an article in "The Toronto Star" about how at 80, George 'is beginning to slip away into dementia". Other information is found on Google, I'm sad to say.
George always stayed on his feet! Tough guy! as a Canadian very proud of him!
yea chuvalo,is very with it,and able to recall interesting details in an interview.
Nice to see Boxers so friendly outside the ring. You're convince that it's all business when they are inside the ring each one just taking care of business :-))
Two loveable guys
George Chavalo as smokin Joe was too was as tough as teak !!.....lm pretty sure that back then the dominant black heavyweights always fought a little harder when up against a rare white guy at this top level
love Joe
Me too
Joe was beautiful person, meeting him several times here in Philly
@@vincentrobinson9645 Can you tell us more about meeting him i love joe frazier.
They don’t have gentlemen like that in the sporting game anymore. Just men acting like kids. Eventually this will fade away and the old will become new again.
Those days boxing was at its heights. Great moments to remember. Mohamed Ali was a entertainer and helped boxing to promote it greatly. It was not boring watching him fight
george is older he is 77 soon. he was about 75 in this video.
Chuvalo was tough as, also Frazier was a lot smaller when they fought,
Great conversation with two true Legends! ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐
Both beautiful guys and no running down their colleagues but one guy they both fought and both got demolished by was Mr George Foreman... another great guy!!
The Chuvalo vs Foreman fight was stopped prematurely by the ref, Arthur Mercante. When he stopped it, Chuvalo yelled at him, ''What are you, *%&"*% nuts?''
Wasn't stopped prematurely. I was there. Chuvalo was defenseless. ANOTHER UA-cam Troll you are.
You were there? So that would make you (at a minimum) 69 years old to be able to watch boxing at the old MSG in 1967. I'm impressed that an elderly gentleman listens to Meek Mills and uses the word troll on UA-cam.
@@thespy7795 Chuvalo wasn't going anywhere. If George says he wasn't buzzed from Foreman's shots who are you to dispute him? He was never off his feet. Ever, think about it!!!
Kev Dean Yes, but he took a very good battering without doing anything back. The refs job is to protect the fighters.
I AM CANADIAN!!! AND I LOVE SMOKIN' JOE FRAZIER TOO!!
2:32 Both fought George Foreman
America's Free Market Doctor - Dr. Tommy McElroy Yea...why did they leave out George?
Casualists should know they had other unmentioned common opponents: Ellis, Bonavena, Doug Jones, Wipperman, Turnbow and Mike Bruce. Trying to read too much into that...
The greatest fights ever were not ko's. I saw Ali=Frazier at the Loews Theatre. it was none stop action -no time even to buy popcorn.. Never before : 2 undefeated Champions, Classic Boxer v, Puncher. it was close but the knockdown clinched it for Joe
Joe hit Ali with some murderous hooks,the audience must of been going nuts
I'd never seen a fighter literally grab another fighters arms and pull him off the ropes!....great stuff.
Sorry to hear george chuvalo is not well he cant speak etc. Such a great man not a bad looking guy too all best great man wa a pleasant guy he is too hes a warrior
Two class gentlemen. I was a kid and we were talking about it.
The Golden era of boxing 🥊!
Two great guys
Old but Dynamites💥⚡🔥💥🥊🥋🥊
Joe can move real quick.....*slurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*
The both also fought Geoge Foreman
Neither of them wanted to mention getting battered by George Foreman!!
Yes LOL
Yes.
Casualists should know they had other unmentioned common opponents: Ellis, Bonavena, Doug Jones, Wipperman, Turnbow and Mike Bruce. Trying to read too much into that...
legends
Chuvalo had it right the first time. He first fought Ali March 29, 1966 in Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto CA. The Narrator had it wrong.
For Ali last fight befor exile was March 22, 1967 vs Folley. Ali didn't fight again til Quarry in October 26, 1970.
They both also fought Foreman. 👍
Both got stopped by Foreman.
Cuz he's George Foreman
Kind of amazing George didn't mention their most common opponent. The guy neither of them could go more than 6 rounds with. Maybe George doesn't remember? Maybe it's because it's another George?
I think he forgot Bonevena as well who was tough as nails!
Casualists should know they had other unmentioned common opponents: Ellis, Bonavena, Doug Jones, Wipperman, Turnbow and Mike Bruce. Trying to read too much into that...
Joe & Cloverlay ducked Liston.
Brutal fight. To greats
And George Foreman.
George Foreman Destroyed both these guys! Foreman TKO'd Frazier two times in two fights! Chuvalo was TKO'd by Foreman in their only fight! The big Texan handled these guys quickly with TKO victories in the 2nd and 5th against Frazier. Foreman's victory against Chuvalo was a 3rd round TKO.
Yes and I noticed that neither one of them mentioned Big George's name when asked about common opponents
Buddy, they both know about it , they are talking about their prime ! Chuvalo is 10 years older then George foreman , and frazier is 5 yeàrs older then foreman ! If you are not a pro boxer , you don't know what's that mean ! Ali defeated 5 years younger big George foreman ! That's one of the reasons he is the greatest !
On the night he beat Frazier, I believe you could have had the best heavy weights in the world lined up ,including Ali and he would have knocked them out one after the other,cannot think of another fighter other than MAYBE? Tyson who may have been capable of doing the same. Frazier was dangerous and tough,yet Foreman gave him a bad beating without raising a sweat.
@@dennisdobin8640 styles. Frazier was named to order for Foreman. But smart boxers like Ali and Young outfought and outsmarted Foreman. They would have done the same to the Foreman who blew away Frazier.
George Čuvalo (Chuvalo) never touched the cavnas, never knocked down, best chin in boxing ever. Croatian genes and a heart of gold
Neither Joe or George bothered to mention Oscar Bonavena...he was a common opponent and had both of them down. Chuvalo lost to Oscar by decision in 1966. Shame on both of them.
Bonavena did knock down Frazier twice. But he never floored Chuvalo. That's Chuvalo's main claim to fame. That no one ever knocked him down.
Shame? As far as Bonavena is concerned, a tough awkward guy, but he'd punch-push, hoping the opponent would fall and a knockdown would ensue. Never came close to knocking Chuvalo down. Fantasy fanboy stuff, that. Casualists should know they had other unmentioned common opponents: Ellis, Foreman, Doug Jones, Wipperman, Turnbow and Mike Bruce. You're trying to read way too much into it...
Jajjjaja Ringo Bonavena los sentó de culo a los dos 🥊 , se acuerdan 👌
Not Chuvalo. George was never knocked off his feet in his entire professional career.
George failed to mention that they were both knocked out by George Foreman. Coincidence? I think not.
Neither was knocked out ever in their career, they were stopped either by their coaches or the referee, but never has another man stood over either George or joe and counted them out, can’t stop someone that isn’t willing to quit
@@MaxSchmidt-ts3cwGeorge Chuvalo wasn't even knocked down once in his life, Joe was knocked out by Foreman twice
@@EBBX. show me where Joe was laying on the floor and counted out, both have been stopped, chuvalo only once really due to a broken orbital against Frazier, the stoppage in the foreman and chuvalo fight wasn’t good considering chuvalo was in 0 trouble, getting stopped and getting ko‘d are 2 different things, Frazier got dropped 6 times by the hardest shots of foreman, and he never lost his consciousness, which is why the fight HAD to be stopped
@@MaxSchmidt-ts3cw George Foreman himself said that he hit Ali with his hardest shots
@@EBBX. doesn’t matter what George himself said, he tried hitting Ali with his hardest shots but he only ever hit Ali either on his guard or on the body, if u look at both fights you can clearly see that Frazier 1. took the shots flush on his chin and 2. even moved into the punches so it’s not that hard to figure out who got hit with the harder shots
Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy on vivid display.
Yes sad
why wasnt ALI in this
Because Ali Couldnt speak,by this time his parkinsons had robbed him of pretty much everything,Speech,Movement etc
Foreman would have knocked Chuvalo down if their fight had continued another minute more. The ropes actually stopped Chuvalo from going down.
@theoneandneveronly Chuvalo's wife stopped the fight.
He might have been saved gainst George Foreman but to STAY unknocked in the golden era of heavyweights is just phenomenal.If he'd been a bit faster he could have been genuine danger to the top tier fighters.
Not true. If anything Foreman was slowing down drastically and missing more, it would have been an interesting fight. Remember George Čuvalo (Chuvalo) was never knocked down ever. Greatest chin in boxing ever
@@Mr47CRO Would have been interesting? You think Chuvalo could have beaten George?
Its crazy that George Chullo outlived Joe Frazier. Rest in Paradise Smokin Joe