Sky Surfer Reverb vs. Hall of Fame (mini) by TC Electronic
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- I recently bought the new Sky Surfer by TC and I figured it'd be cool to do a back to back of the two pedals.
All photography shot and edited by Sinead Cahill.
I like the Skysurfer better. It has a better tone to the reverb in my opinion.
I'm in love with the first harmony that you played
Thanks Omar much love from Edmonton
Skysurfer sound so much better. I was really surprised at the end when you said you preferred the HOF. The HOF sounds weak and small compared to the fuller sounding Skysurfer. Thank you for the review. I just ordered a Skysurfer. Note - I never want a pedal that I have to "beam" anything too.
I actually prefer the skysurfer myself! it has more of a sweetness to it that I like
Wade Carruthers fair nuff buddy! Bonus is that the one you like is cheaper! Again, I'm glad I have both
In my humble opinion, the Skysurfer is not worse, it's just completely different to the HOF. It's a SHORT reverb ideal for certain purposes, not a general reverb to embelish your guitar signal. I use it to play blues, rockabilly, surf, country, 60's music, rock and roll... it creates an amazing vintage sound. Combined with a short delay or delay is kick ass. It's not that its long reverbs are bad, it's just that it does not have long reverb at all, you're stretching something that is not meant for that. For long reverbs I have another pedal (Byang Tri Reverb, also very cheap, recommended). In short, Skysurfer is great to get a specific sound. In this video you can hear how to use it properly to its full potential: ua-cam.com/video/ldpoK7vruPw/v-deo.html
That's what I've been saying. Maybe the name Skysurfer is misleading as it suggests lush ethereal reverbs. No, this pedal is all about ambience reverbs. Short to medium and I think it's pretty awesome at doing that. It has sort of a vintage vibe and with a really wet setting your instrument sounds as if you're listening to someone playing in a hall, but you're standing in a room next to it. I totally like that.
This was exactly my observation when I used this pedal. It’s really nice for short reverb but there is no decay setting. The mix knob is basically only usable around 9 o’clock and the reverb knob basically needed to always be full. So in the end I found I could only get one sound out of it, although it did sound good. Great pedal for the price if you’re just after short reverb
Gotta disagree with you there, because the Skysurfer SUCKS at short reverbs. Even with the reverb and mix knobs turned almost all the way down it still sounds like you're playing in a sewage tunnel, no matter the reverb mode. The reverb also sounds muffled and muddy, even if you turn the tone knob all the way up. So, the Skysurfer is a pedal that does muddy medium-lenght reverb really well, I guess. If that's what you want knock yourself out...
Really nice demo and comparison... I checked the skysurfer out in the store and really liked how solid it was... Maybe I will pick it up later..
Thanks for this demo
Is it just me or do you hear artifacting/clipping of the signal here and there from the Skysurfer?
Really good review
I would probably go opposite when it comes to live. I sing lead and need a big target I can hit that is a tank when I stomp it. The demo proves the new series by TC may not have all of the fancy settings, but they are easy, decent, and you could probably run over then and they would still work. Many gigging guitarists find one reverb setting and use it for all of their needs. So changing settings during a gig would be less likely. At home, that versatility is useful for recording and inspiring sounds.
Picked up the skysurfer recently and love it for home recording, it's a cheap, simple but really effective tool to add some colour into guitar overdub tones
I like the skysurfer. TC is a good quality brand. I got the ditto looper a couple of years ago, so I know that TC is not going to let me down. Skysurfer is cheaper than HOF, has 3 different reverbs that we can modify, and sounds pretty cool on the video... I'm gonna buy it soon!
My ditto looper has crapped out on me. It's the 4 button one. Back to the Boss RC3 or whatever it's called. Now boss IS a brand that I feel doesn't have reliability issues.
scusa sono nell input davanti ? o send return? grazie ciao
Hi! My Skysurfer adds a small noise when turned on. It's low but it bothers me.
The HOF mini too?
Planning to get the skysurfer! Coz I need to tweak on the go! And I already have a Neunaber Seraphim for my shimmer sounds! So I may go in for the skysurfer or the newer spring reverb Called drip or something!
thank you for makig this mate!
nice sound man
Does this mini hof have the same quality as the biggest Hall of Fame? Does that doubt me?
First, thank you for your review. I'm considering buying one of these, but I've got a simple question: how do they compare when you play an acoustic guitar. I need a reverb for gigging, switching between acoustic and electric... Just wondering. Thanx a lot buddy !
Mehdi Acoustic Jam I'm not sure, I don't plug in acoustically. I imagine it would be the same
I think u missed the killer feature of the HOF. It sends the analog clean signal to the amp and blends in the digital reverb signal. I presume the sky surfer converts the whole signal. Would that be the case?
Holywell I actually thought of that while I was editing it and decided I was too lazy to reshoot. But that's a great point and you can really hear it. Im not 100% sure but I'd be surprised if the sky surfer does the same
Omar Gear Review I reckon they would have mentioned it if it was the case. Apart from the actual effect, surely the digital conversion would play a part in the sound quality. Regards Nick
if your behringer gave up on you within 6 months why the heck didn't you send it to warranty?
I use mine as my "always on" reverb. It does the job well enough. I paid 40 bucks new. no volume or hum issues.
what is it?
I think the Sky surfer will suit acoustic guitars better than the HOF due to the transient nature of the reverberation. Dynamic accentuations must compliment that of the sound source as must timbre. Transparency of tone and the lack of intermodulations are virtues with acoustic guitars.
This is a very useful review. Thanks for making it :-)
This may sound like a silly question. But why do you think makes the hall of fame sound better?
rustymcnally that's a good question, in the video they both sound really good. I think, especially with reverb, they can be really inspiring pedals. When you sit next to the amp you can hear it even more clearly, the hof is so much more lush and angelic than the skysurfer. When I'm playing the hof I just want to keep on playing. I don't feel that as strong with the skysurfer, it's a little more thin.
Personally, i liked the sky surfer. It sounds more airy.
Thanks!
Is this pedal an exact version of the larger hall of fame?
Nice right hand technique
It's a toss up. When you get to that point, it's basically splitting hairs. Tough to "beam" a sound in the middle of a gig. Then again, do you really need a different reverb sound in the middle of a gig that any normal person is likely to be involved in? They both sound fine. It comes down to "do you like red or silver and the extra money"? I sorta like red but I'd probably opt for saving the dough. Just a note... to connect your I-phone to the HOF it's probably going to run you an extra $30 just to get the get the Apple camera connector cable plus the purchase of another cable if you don't already have it (both cables to edit HOF cost me about $45).
Based on your recording the HOF had a lot of low frequency resonance that I am going to roll off. You notice it when you switch off the pedal and the low-end resonance disappears. This may contribute to the general sentiment of the comments that the Surfer is sounding 'better".
The only flaw I can hear from the Surfer is that the Plate almost has a discrete echo that is more like a delay than a smooth reflection in the plate. It would be helpful to let both ring out to silence to hear any deficiency in the bit depth. It was hard to tell if the drop outs at the tails were pedal or user.
Thanks!
Does the Skysurfer have TonePrint capacity, or is it just the Hall of Fame?
Diego Parra just the hall of fame.
I have a Hall of Fame two it rocks
The HOF is easily more than twice the Skysurfer pedal. It's about 20 times the Skysurfer pedal with the access to all the HOF TonePrints as well as the ability to make your own.
I just found a Skysurfer on marketplace for 50, but I can't justify paying 50 for a used verb pedal that isn't either Holy Grail or HoF, and more to the point, in pristine condition. However, for 70 brand new, I think I'm gonna hit GC and grab one. They sure as Hell don't sound terrible from hearing them in these demos, and I'm not interested in adding tones with Toneprint , or having excessive settings on the full HoF either. From what I've heard, the Spring, hall, and plate sound decent enough on the Skysurfer in any setting you'd use it in.
I say sky surfer and i say i like your demo very much !!!!!!!!!
First off, well done on your video review. I liked it very much.
About the pedals; I am very familiar with TC Electronic reverb pedals as I own the HOF Mini and I just recently upgraded from my Normal sized HOF to an Arena Reverb; which is a HOF but with 4 new reverb settings and the black colored design.
To answer your question, yes, I do believe that the HOF mini is worth the extra 70 bucks Canadian because it does sound better, it is more pedal board friendly due to its smaller size and it really can get a whole lot more that just Hall, Spring and Plate reverb settings as with the Tone-print tech. For example, you could beam a setting like the one called "Room with a view" with is very spacey and can inspire some deep ambient riffing instead of the 3 classic reverb settings that are very common in every modern reverb pedal anyway.
The HOF is better because of size, sound quality and versatility. The Skysurfer is a "better-ish" copy of the EHX Holy Grail Neo, but I don't think it sounds as good as neither the HOF Mini or the EHX Holy Grail Neo.
Keep up with your entertaining review videos.
Cristian Salamanca thanks! And the arena looks great!
What song did you played ? I love it
Muhammad Faiz hey Muhammad, i made them up on the spot. Some of them are full songs that I wrote. Which song are you talking about?
Omar Gear Review The riff u played at 4.02...
That is a new song that ill be putting on my upcoming solo ep. Itll be on my bandcamp when its up. www.omarshabbar.bandcamp.com
First, great review! To the point, no wanking around on the guitar, just showing the sounds of the two pedals. Perfect! One thing, however, is I wish that reviewers would use a pick while playing the guitar in reviews like these. Many guitar players use a pick when they play (as I do), so the sound will be different from one playing style to the other. Maybe do some finger picking and then some playing with a pick? Still, I really enjoyed this review. I actually own the Skysurfer and I love it. I'm in the process of learning to play guitar after almost 30 years of drumming, so my ears may not be as sharp for knowing what to listen for in a pedal as a guitar player's might be. I also like that I don't have to deal with a computer/phone to get sounds from my pedal. The price can't be beat either! I also have The Prophet delay pedal, which I really like from the same series. If you haven't already, you should do a review of that, too. ;) The whole "Smorgasboard Of Sounds" line seems to be getting good reviews, and the price is amazing. Thanks for the review! :)
creepshow69 thanks man! I will def keep that in mind for the next video in re to pics! I don't own the prophet and I'm not sure I'll get one anytime soon as I already own 4 delays so Im not really into getting one soon but if I'm looking I'll check it out Forsure!
Haha! Yeah, 4 delays is probably enough! Thanks again! :)
I agree. Most of these reverb demos feature fingerpicking. Bummer. Reverbs JUMP to life with a pick!
Why would anyone want a phone app for an fx pedal. I'm just ... wat.
Same board as the Behringer?! That sucks. I often wonder about the saturated "botique" pedal market and how many of those $200 pedals are just kits. On a positive note, I've had behringer's dr100 reverb pedal for 13 years and somehow it still works. It actually doesn't sound terrible through the effects loop.
electropentatonic You should absolutely check out a video from Josh by JHS (his channel is also just great) where he goes through all the Behringer pedals and compares them to their expensive equivalents. Essentially he says they just copied the boards from classic Boss pedals. Also, these pedals are $70 Canadian and they will last you forever, that goes pretty far for a lot of people.
The sky surfer has limited reverb respond you can't go super deep reverb it stops till one place with the mini HOF via the tone print editor you can make almost any kind of reverb,So yeah the mini is more versatile.
I'm considering the Skysurfer to compliment a MS20
I was thinking the same thing. Did you get it?
how do you "Beam" the sounds??
mgc777 you need to download the toneprint app on your phone or on your computer, go through and selet your pedal and preset, plug into the pedal turn it on and make sure the volumes up on your guutar, place your phone next to your pickup and hit beam.
oh gotcha,, i actually don't play guitar but rather elec. fiddle so that probably won't work
Its worth a shot. You can also hook it up to your computer via usb and decide beam via the usb, youd have to commit to a sound. There is a larger hall of fame that has a preset knob with around 12 different presets which sohnds like itd be your best bet. Its a liytle more pricey
mgc777 it just needs to hear the beam, you have a pick up?
Hi, my 2 cents are if you are looking for a budget reverb and your amp does not offer it, you are fine with the sky. I use mine for blues on spring just for the little extra and it does not fail my 1k rig. If you want to go pro, go pay for more. Great video btw! Teles are the axes of choice for every situation if you are not in the need for the high gain. Greetings from Europe
Harry Caine cheers!
Anyone actually like having a battery power option....as I get older, the less gear I have to bring to a gig , the better....amp, one or 2 pedals, cables, guitar ...done...cables and pedals go in the guitar case....so one trip ..two handfuls , I’m ready to play.
Yes I always like the idea of having a powered battery.
Nice name bro
Вы сравниваете не сравнимые вещи. На видео не слышно разницы по звуку, только слегка ;-)
Ясен красен, что педаль с тремя регулировками будет звучать круче....
Does the hall of fame work for acoustic electric?
Kafffee absolutely
Awesome! thanks for getting back so fast thinking of buying one off amazon just have two more questions, for using the ap, does it work only off wifi? and where would i put the phone to pick up the sounds in order to try all the different revebs, right next to the bridge/saddle? Thanks man you rock!
Kafffee thanks dude, Im not too sure about WiFi settings and stuff, it'd be interesting to try but I imagine you don't need it once the app is installed. I would go right over the sound hole, depends on if you have a mic in the acoustic or under the bridge, basically closest to whereever the input is. It also has a USB input on the side and you plug that into your computer to change the settings that way if your having problems. Also do check out the body rez by tc. It's a great acoustic preamp
Hey was wondering if you would need the body res pickup if you use a nylon acoustic 1/2 size classical guitar. Would it be worth it? I don't eat much feedback to buy it just wondering what you think thank!
Thanks for the review. I have a reverb on my amp, but was considering adding a reverb pedal. The HOF in particular. Now I won't waste my money, although the sounds are great. I now realize that I love reverb because of my amps real spring reverb box inside the cabinet. Your video helped me realize that. Thanks.
5:37 Rob Scallon?
Michael Jenkins wut?
Omar Gear Review Nevermind, sounded similar to a part from a song. I love the review btw, I've been looking around for a reverb pedal for saturated bluesy tones or for ambient playing (but I'm poor and just graduated hs)
Michael Jenkins true say, Im not sure what song that is but I do like rob scallon lots! I just made up a little riff but it's possible that was heavily influenced by him. I appreciate the kind words of the review!
Omar Gear Review Yeah he's great, and I listened to several of his songs trying to find which it sounded like but I couldn't find it, irregardless, excellent playing and review.
HOF seems to lack definition and imparts a rather washy lower midrange.
Neither manages to inspire due to the lack of early reflections and lack of excitement within the resonances.
Fiasco Seven fair enough. It should be noted there's a billion different tone print settings for the hof mini which all sound drastically different from one another. I just showed 3.
And software to write your own
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I trust the opinion of a person that has at least 2 Teles 😀 Skysurfer wins, as for me
Jeeze..... the Skysurfer is a great reverb if all you need is "SUBTLE" reverb, its not a Dick Dale saturated surf guitar reverb by all means, but if you just want a reverb that does not drown out your guitar sound, but just want a subtle reverb just riding under your guitar sound and tuned to the ambient room you are playing in, then this Skyreverb is excellent for the money. Enough with the fucking cork sniffing people, back in the day there were no "BOUTIQUE" pedals, amps and guitars and Musicians made good with what they had. Many great Musicians and music were made this way that became classics. What was cheap then becomes boutique today. LOL!! Musicians just played and with their ears, and not with their eyes... Jeeze... Snowflakes indeed.
Video starts at 4:10
Video starts at 4:10 lol
Took me about 20 seconds to figure out im not gonna buy the skysurfer as long as i can get the hof for twice the price
Both are a tone and volume sucker, needs a compressor after.
Sky Surfer Reverb suena mas natural..
I bought skysurfer and immediatly sold it. Its awful reverb and you can use it if you really want just that sound of reverb. For less money 100 times better is Behringer reverb DR600
hof mini win
Skysurfer sounded better
You can’t directly compare the two pedals for value for money as the Hof has many more features, that’s just silly.
Marketing BS. SkySURFER pedal spring setting is pathetic and would sound laughable playing surf music.
jefflg1967 i dont think it has to do with surfer music... Have you played it? I agree theres better reverbs but the price
jefflg1967 what would be a good pedal for surf music, then?
Kjersti Iverson, how about the original Fender Reverb (Springs, valves). That's what they used in the old days!
I would consider buying a used DigiTech Polara Stereo Reverb... Higher quality, more effects, and stereo.
Crap review and comparison, iritating buzz throughout as well.
2 much talk!