The raycons are one of the best purchases I have to date. They even connect well to my 6 year old iPhone 6s. The only time I’ve had issues is with the crappy iPhone
The end with the tree buried in the front and Kevin just trying to reverse off it was the most realistic drunk driver post collision simulation I've ever seen on UA-cam.
IMO, considering how much abuse this truck took with them purposely trying to crash and/or destroy it, and the truck surviving, I would think this truck still had some more time left under "normal" driving conditions if they would have fixed the cam phasers. Maybe not daily road use but certainly Farm use or other off-road task / chores.
@@SladeWilsonOGI live in Ohio and I used to own a 94 dodge Ram Van and one day the steering wheel slowly started turning and when I got home it was completely upside down and when I checked it out the frame had snapped and was pulling apart the steering and completely pulled apart when trying to get it on the trailer to send to the scrap yard
I had a 2003 Ford Explorer with frame rot and a multitude of other issues, I also live in Ohio. The suspension was rusted through as well...Not only was the handling and driving extremely rough, but every single time I would go somewhere it would leave small bits of rusted metal on the ground. I only owned it for a little under 3 months before replacing it with a 2014 Mazda3 HB a little over a week ago. I spent 1180 bucks for the Ford.
@@SladeWilsonOGcome the rust belt of new england youll see some scary shit man fr and it will be on cars only 10-15 yrs old with rotten subframes and breaks that will crumble i seen it so many times especially on trucks
I'm a ford fan, but even I know when it's nolonger viable. I've been a working on vehicles for 20 years. I have taken plenty of vehicles off the road in that time. Whenever a customer brings something bad into my shop. I take photos and when possible, show them directly. Honestly, it saves lives in the long run. No brand is immune to this though, it's really a matter of how well it's taken care of.
@@tylerslater4709 at this point it doesn't matter what brand you like, everyone can agree that this is too far gone. could be a GMC like this, anyone would agree its time to put it out to pasture
The lack of yearly safety inspections in most states tells us that nobody cares if the vehicle driving behind or beside our families has any brakes or a working suspension. The state doesn't care, the people don't care, the police don't care, and - shockingly - insurance companies don't care.
Yeah but these states keep putting it down and a lot of people don’t have money for new cars and are left driving theses rusted out cars/trucks and they are dangerous to drive but the states don’t care because they save money. These states need to start doing what the northwest does it’s way better on cars/trucks.
Frankly what this is teaching me is that it is definitely worth welding light rust on a 2005 F-150, because it held up really well for being in such a terrible state that a lesser rusted frame is gonna be plenty strong with some light repair work.
Honestly seeing Kevin bouncing the thing around the corn field finally made me understand the whole "Built Ford Tough" thing, Top Gear's Hilux would be proud Definitely seems like they're worth undersealing and keeping nice for sure
Completely agree! That thing took it like a champ. "AiNT eVEN goNA make It HOme" my butt that thing had plenty of strength surprisingly @@TheCynicalJedi
Clearly the truck was not repairable so using it for educational purposes was it’s last task. I was quite impressed by the durability of a severely compromised frame. Even that crappy 3 valve motor really held up well. I’m a life long Ford truck owner now at age 63. Thanks for the video guys.
As far as the domestic trucks go, and the notion of owning one long-term, Ford makes the best truck overall, but the GM's are cheaper and easier for the average man to fix. Chrysler is out of the conversation due to poorer quality steel and nightmare electrics.
I don't understand that "not repairable". Clearly it was repairable, just zeus some new metal in there. Hell they even had a lift, it would have been pretty easy.
I'm telling you if it's warping the same as hitting a wall at 35 mph when you jump it at 34mph with half the frame gone after a rear end accident. I'm a believer.
In my opinion don't be afraid to do stuff like this. It was very entertaining to me. Wouldn't mind seeing this every so often. It's an awesome stress reliever and it has a sense of satisfaction.
@@bluej360 I find him too destructive... Not my style at all. He isn't screwing around with junk, he's starting off with pretty good vehicles that he turns into junk.
Problem is you can't control the variables. Every test would have to have identically rusted frames which would be impossible obviously. But it would make for some interesting entertainment.
@user-jm4nj7nz6t you could make the conditions the vehicles are in identical. Salt/h2o mist for x hours a day, for y days (or some other way to induce rust). This would not only test the rust resistance of the vehicles, but once crashed, how much that rust affected its safety
Shouldnt as IISA/NHTSA is known to doctor tests and claim sunglare has no effect on crashes, and that two door versions of standard 4 door models are less safe, etc.
To be honest, I am amazed and impressed how well it did for how extremely destroyed that frame was. I would've thought a lot worse like you had initially thought
@@kingdaniel3519 True. In 04 they boxed the frame in and made it many times stronger. That was also its downfall as the boxed frame wasn't sealed well enough to keep water and salt out, but was sealed well enough to keep it in, so they rotted from the inside out. They added about 1000 lbs to the weight of the old model on a quad cab between the frame upgrade and the extra sound deadening (dampened steel panels, extra thick glass, etc) as buyers wanted more luxury features. It made them slow and undermined the fuel economy gains of the VVT, which was also a disaster.
@@mikelemoine4267 I know that's a problem in the rust belt. Thankfully, I live in the south where that's not an issue. I do want to point out that Ford uses VCT(variable camshaft timing) not VVT. And it wasn't as disastrous as you might think. It caused some problems, sure, but it led to the excellent Coyote. The 5.0 is an upgraded 4.6 and is listed by Ford as being a part of the Modular motor family.
@@kingdaniel3519 Yeah I'm in Florida myself. They had a lot of failures early on with the VCT system, some argue it was more an issue of poor maintenance, others say it happens no matter what. Fordtechmakuloco fixes a lot of them and says the replacement parts solve the issues, so I would not hesitate to buy an old one on the cheap with the expectation to do phasers/timing on it to make it run forever. I have an 03 F150 Harley and the 2V 5.4 has been super reliable, but it's getting pretty tired (timing chain rattle, scoring on cylinder walls from running a CAI in Arizona by previous owner). Still starts and goes anywhere, but is showing its age. I'm waiting for a deal on a wrecked F150 or Mustang with a Coyote to swap into it. It'll lose some low end grunt in stock form, but it would nearly double the fuel economy and of course a future Whipple addition would wake it up. I might need to go up North and find one that's rusted out but running good!
My 1989 F150 with 285k Michigan winter miles. Rusted almost off the frame sent a Honda Del Sol to the junkyard on a flatbed. The only damage to my truck was the bumper had some red paint on it. Rust doesn’t comprise safety, it’s only weight reduction.
Mechanical engineer here. Some comments to share with you: 1) the rust in the frame appeared to be mostly in the lower flange of the box-beam section and a bit on the lower part of the web (sides of the box section). The remaining part of the web and the top flange--an upside-down U--gave you remarkable resiliency against your cornfield brutality. 2) to give a more dramatic failure in the frame, I suggest loading the bed with bags of sand or other weight, favoring toward the cab, up to the truck's rated capacity and drive backwards into the ridge in your cornfield (in the rougher direction) and at an angle so that one tire hits the ridge before the other tire. A severe failure should appear at the bed mount toward the cab. If not, add more sand.
if you have to surpass the weight rating to finally get it to break I would argue the truck is safe to drive (definitely not safe in the event of a crash, but safe enough to be driven carefully like your life depends on it)
@@justinkaufman495 He said up to the trucks rated capacity, not surpassing it. I’d argue that driving carefully does not remove the risk of an accident either
@@suhhhdud9682 no but it can make it less likely to happen. and yes he said up until the limit... but then followed up by saying if that doesn't break it add more weight which is where my comment came in. seeing how it did on that crash test though I'd say it's safe in the event of an accident anyways. there's a very specific kind of crash that would make it a problem and that condition wasn't met when they tried to crash it.
@@Zippytez that's pretty bad. I remember the worst one I've ever seen. we had a 2009 fullsize dodge ram diesel towed in. This was in 2015. They had an extended insurance policy that covered the engine and their engine was blown. Well everything was so rusted virtually no bolts came out that we even tried because the bolt head was still somewhat visible. The insurance company was contacted before work began about the rust and they said they would cover any bolts that broke. Well once we finally got the body bolts out and lifted the cab thier was not much left of the pockets where the bolts went. And further inspection their were major sections of the frame that just we're not safe. We called the insurance company saying that even with a motor the truck wasn't fit for the road and needed to be junked they argued and after some back and forth sent an adjuster who after looking at everything was pretty optimistic that it could be saved with a frame swap. But first he got a ladder and was going to verify the vin number and had to wipe the inside of the windshield to get a view and when he shut the drivers door the weight of the truck cab being supported by the lift arms properly kinda shifted and the rockers were rusted so thin they buckled and the cab started just rocking and slowly getting lower until the actual doors were sitting on the lift arms. The adjuster just turned and looked at us with a shocked look on his face and we were just as shocked to be honest. He said I don't care what I was told by my boss I'm totaling this truck. My boss just kinda chuckled and said yea you kinda already did bub. They cut the customer a check for way more than I thought they would. Basically they paid him what that truck would be worth running and no mechanical issues. Oh and by the way the engine blew because the oil pan had rusted thru most of the way around above the oil level inside and he hit a hard bump and the damn thing almost came completely off. That was just a freak occurrence for a truck to be that far gone. But how did your steering column rust thru. That's pretty bad
@georgemccune2923 it had been my great grandfather's, he bought it a year before he passed. Me and my father used it primarily for hunting and just hauling stuff and sat anytime between that (potentially months). I'm in Midwest pa, and the salt just chewed that poor truck to bits
@@Zippytez ah. Makes sense now. You guys get some brutal winter storms where you are? We get that lake effect snow pushed down from lake superior and lake Michigan before it turns east and heads your way. So you are a fellow member of the rust belt. I'm on the Indiana Illinois border just south of lake Michigan. I've probably been thru your area many times on the Pennsylvania turnpike heading to visit cousins in West Windsor New Jersey as well as up in the Poconos. Been on the turnpike when the fog was so bad they shut it down and had everybody taking next exit. we got rerouted south on 80 I think towards DC. Can't remember exactly as you couldn't see the signs to even read them. Fog was so thick like driving thru cotton. Never seen fog that thick in my life.
I used to work at an auto shop and sold cars and car parts on Craigslist. Dealing with people was an absolute nightmare. Finding a considerate person with a reasonable request who was not trying to lowball you and could communicate in halfway competent grammar was a complete unicorn. On another note, all this rust makes me glad I live in the south. My 1990 Crown Victoria's frame is still fine despite having been through numerous winters here.
You know with how much frame had been thinned out it probably turned it into some kind of freak ass giant leaf spring, which is probably why it didn't immediately snap in half lmao
same got frame rot on my drivers side nothing like this tho. still going to buy another one with a good frame transfer the parts i bought over and powdercoat it
I had a '94 Chevy S10 that the frame had rusted so bad in 4 spots that you could put your hand through. It was my first truck for $400 just to drive to school. I ended up repairing the frame in the worst spot so I could drive it again, but I actually got rear ended a few months later, and the thing folded in half so hard that we were lucky to be unharmed. Rusty frames are not a joke
I had a couple of s10 blazers 84 86 and 94. The frames held up ok but the bodies fell apart. 94 s10 blazer was still old body, pickup was newer body Maybe the older frame was better
These f150s have fully boxed frames, I had a late 90s Sonoma and the frames on those are way thinner than the full size trucks. Apples to oranges really
Don't be afraid to put out stuff like this man, your all about teaching, and giving knowledge to people. This is one big subject that needs to be taught more in my opinion so that maybe we can have less fatalities on the road due to this problem.
I think he thought it was more of a liability thing. He didn't want idiots to try this or them to take it that everyday driving is fine on bad frames since it's still in one piece after this beating.
I really like the idea of this because I have always been curious about how rusted frames would hold up in a crash, but I'm not excited about Kevin hurting himself to prove a point. Could you do a collab with Peter Sripol @PeterSripol , who lives in your area, to make a remote controlled version so that we could see what it would look like to crash at full speed without Kevin getting hurt?
I've parted out a couple cars, and unfortunately it doesn't seem to matter how specific you are on marketplace, those are the exact replies you'll get. This one hit home, great video!
FB Marketplace seems to be made for and by people who does not have basic common sense. It's either sellers have prices are listed incorrectly ($0, or $1234.56). Or buyers who cannot read descriptions at all, DM's "Is This Available" and proceeds to ghost you, or desperately trying to lowball you. "But with this price, I'll take it off your hands right now". Never again.
@@germaineliew2012 Also the bad searching features for yard sales, and sellers not being familiar with _how to advertise a yard sale there._ Hint: *Never select "ships to you" for a **_Yard Sale._* You'll be getting people from Alaska asking you where your yard sale is. And for Pete's sake, post an address, or at least say which road will have a yard sale sign on it! I also doubt you'll be able to fit that Bed, or Couch, or Refrigerator in my Mailbox. So don't choose *"ships to you"* when you have no intent of actually following through with it.
Fact check=true. I've put a number of "parts car" listings on Marketplace, and craigslist before that. They are absolute idiot-magnets. There is literally nothing that can be described in the ad or explained on the phone that will convince these morons that it's not some overlooked bargain driver car. They will drive anything that moves. And a surprising number of them will inquire about it anyway because they don't understand what things like "locked up engine" or "broken frame" means... "No title" doesn't faze them at all.
@@germaineliew2012 to be fair (is that available) is a pain in the ass to get around. On one post i tried to share to a buddy of mine and it automatically sent is this available to the seller. Facebook needs to get rid of it!
Built Ford tough...on a whole nother level! It was really interesting to see. I was amazed to see how long it did last. Hit the tree and still tried to go more.
I think you really need to acknowledge the educational value of the video. For those of us who like to fix up and run older vehicles, this video demonstrates that even though a vehicle may appear to be irreparable, it might be worth some time and money to keep it on the road. Thanks for posting.
@@gorkyd7912 having done bodywork, I much prefer the aluminum f150s because things like removing the bed is much easier because it’s way lighter. 4 guys could take an aluminum bed off vs 6-8 for steel beds
Despite how bad these 5.4s are, still my favorite generation of F-150. Passed my driving test in dad's 06' 4.6, started to do that low idle dip & lost compression in the rear passenger side cylinder. Still miss her every day, she was the last vehicle givin to me. Always take care of stuff that was givin to you, never take gifts or hand me downs for granted.
my 4.6 made it too 320k before the timing chain went out! i loved that truck, it got me to work and home safe everyday. even when the timing chain tensior went out, it sounded like hell but still got me home!
That’s what I had for 9 years but mine had tne 5.4 and put 180k on it with no major engine/transmission issues. Only swapped trucks cause of the high mileage, 360k and it’s still running as a backup truck. Got a ‘14 Silverado to replace it and already lost an engine in it at 210k miles but otherwise I like this truck. I work on a farm and not much if any towing so I don’t push the trucks too hard but I know the truck was owned by a construction company before we bought it.
I own a 06 f150, and I made sure that the frame was still solid when I bought it a few years ago and it’s still a solid truck, probably one of the only ones in the north east. At least now I get to watch someone beat on one of these trucks and have it not be me, awesome video 👍
Growing up in basically the desert, I never imagined things could actually rust out that bad till I seen vehicles from other parts of the world. That frame and body would still be like new where I’m from.😂
Living in IL, if you want anything nice it's either AZ/NM lol. Cracked dashes and upholstery are relatively easy to fix, rotted bodies and frames are not. However if you've got really low standards( or just don't care), then IL and WI have all the rotted out piles of crap that you could ever want lmao
This proves my point to everyone that criticized my frame swap. I had a 93 S10 and the frame was practically gone in the back, only so many times you can weld on it, swapped that frame for my old 91 longbed frame that I restored, everyone is like wondering why, well thanks to rust, this is exactly why, thanks Kevin for the video and for your inspiration to keep old junk on the road!
Kevin, I love your videos. I have been a life long GM person, but seeing that truck running and trying to pull its self off that tree gives new life to the phrase Built Ford Tough.
I took my old Beetle off the road after a garage completely failed to spot the severely rusted frame head on it (you know, the bit that the entire front axle is bolted onto), when they swapped the front axle. The car would pull to the left or right depending on what mood it was in, and the creaking sounds from up front also told me something was definitely not right. It still handled speed bumps like a champ, though, strangely enough. The really scary bit was when the guy who was supposed to get it roadworthy again, had the steering column snap on him while just pushing the car at his place. The "crumble zone" on the steering column was completely rusted out. Sometimes it's not the big things that'll get you, but the small.
That Ford (?) was incredibly excellent despite looking fit for tin foil. Only. I'm speechless other than some of that damage made me laugh a little several times though I tried to stay stoic and objective. That is so much better than men give it credit for. Coming to buy it others will decry it's usefulness and whimper about its worthless condition. But right now I have decided to keep my truck until the deck sags around the rusted frame and drags on the ground like a child in her mother's ankle length skirt. Thanks for lifting my spirit and making the value of my truck increase by five thousand percent. ❤
Really does show why ensuring the underside of a vehicle is cleaned on a regular basis, especially in areas that see alot of road salt! On a side note, I've been to many Demolition Derbies, and usually as the body bends on cars the frame tends to stick out even with regular 5-20mph impacts!
even cleaning them, the fully boxed frames will rust from the inside. cleaning on a open channel frame helps. or you have to oil the inside of the frame if you're in an area that salts the roads.
This is a good, and entertaining, example of what can happen if you're rear ended with a badly rusted frame. And this was less than 15 MPH. In a real world situation, it would be much faster than that. I like saving old vehicles. But it was time to let these 3 retire permanently. Hope you're not in too much pain Kevin!
Especially when many vehicles have the fuel tank near the back end. A car could go right under and bust the fuel tank while all of the broken lights and battery being up front could ignite it all.
I knew an old farmer years ago who always drove real old cars. One day he took a 45 minute trip , put some heavy stuff in the trunk and drove over a set of RR tracks at about 5 mph . He got stuck on the tracks when the frame bent in a 45° angle just forward of the rear axle . He was towed off the tracks straight to the junk yard where the car belonged in the 1st place
I guess the schedule was on his side if he got a car towed off the tracks before getting turned into what would assuredly be a dust cloud of rust by a train.
I'm so glad to see many safety measures taken during this test. I'm wondering how much my hospital bill would've been if I did the same thing. Admittedly, it does look like fun. LOL
Two main problems! 1.) Ford, GMC have never make good paint jobs with any FRAME from factory! 2.) The owners of the new truck have never made good protection for FRAME!!!
The best of both worlds, a rusted out frame AND a 3v 5.4! Yay! On another note, I'm surprised that a body shop somewhere didn't buy it to maybe fix a rollover truck. The body still looked kinda ok. One of the most entertaining videos I've seen in quite a while! Built Ford tough buddy!
If this frame rusted out, chances are, other ones have done so too. There are probably lots of more or less donor trucks for body parts. But yes, it kinda hurt seeing usable replacement parts getting trashed. -Cool, but wasteful. Still, he did try to sell it for parts.
That truck really crunched down. I would say that MAYBE the engine is good. I want to say the transmission and rear end can be good BUT, when I had my transmission rebuilt, they found the mounting ears on the transmission case cracked, all of them. because of the tight tolerances, they cannot reweld it. The case has to be replaced. And my truck had not been in a accident and my frame is not rusted other than surface rust. The rear end would have to be taken apart and checked for reuse but still may be a viable part.
@@kingdaniel3519 yeah i bought my 94 f-150 4x4 5.0 5 speed after watching zip ties and bias plies cuz he has me convinced that they are some of the toughest trucks on the planet!
The truth is all truck are tough yes even the Japanese and Chinese trucks. There is a reason why so many people use them so it only makes sense. I'm sick and tired of people laying durability solely on name brand it really is annoying, these people truly have no clue just how close to the same ALL vehicles are out there. Here you want a frigging name brand ? How about Earth Vehicle lol !
@@Wildstar40 Shows how foolish you are. Not all trucks are equal. Some have very serious deficiencies compared to others. The market determines the superior product.
@@mromatic17 yea totally agree not like my 400k GMC denali could have hit a tree and kept running... or did you miss that those gm cars were... cars not trucks and they had already spent an entire day doing the grand prix gran prix. After also being cars bought for extremely cheap because of high miles and rust themselves. but sure nice dig at GM, cause all GMs are crap.
@@compzac i was talking about how they were running and driving fine just like the f-150 and when they got in one wreck all ran into the f150 they all died after 1 hit. yes trucks are tougher but this f-150 with all its rust and rot was about the same level of becoming immobile as the cars since it was so bad. the only thing that gm does well is build v8's everything else they cheap TF out on. theres several tens of thousands of reviews in consumer reports about how overall fords are built better and fewer problems over gm products! hell even their newer v8's are having really bad engine failures! my brother owned a 2016 camaro ss and the engine failed at 23k miles and he bought a brand new 2021 corvette and same thing the displacement on demand v8's are shitting the bed look it up but you wont cuz brand whoring! There are a lot of gm products I love but wouldn't daily cuz of the problems they have!
Awesome! Marketplace is a pain in the ass...I listed my 2nd gen cummings and I get asked about fuel economy and how much rust it has! People have no clue.Keep sending out the great content!
Craigslist is no better. I've sold mowers on Craigslist for years. My ads are THE BEST out there; a VERY thorough description and lots of well-lit pictures! Idiots STILL call and ask questions THAT ARE CLEARLY ANSWERED IN THE AD! Everybody "wants a good deal" but is too stupid/ignorant to have any idea of what they are looking at or how to assess it.
Well, it's Cummins and the rust question is valid. I'd say the fuel question is valid too since it could give insight into potential fuel system or engine issues. You wouldn't ask these basic questions when buying a vehicle?
My daily is an 04 f150 and I was able to put it On a lift for the first time and I found a rust hole straight through the frame that I wasn’t able to see just normally climbing under it and this video helped me out safety wise, you might have just saved my life 😅
There's a channel called "Just Rolled In" that I love to watch because of all the extreme cases mechanics share, just like this one. Even worse, those cars are actually moving on the streets, waiting for something really bad to happen.
Nothing new ,in the early and mid 80s we had quite a few G eneral M istakes come into our shop with the complaint that “ My bumper is loose “ cutlass es ,granprixs etc … really sad because the outer bodies were still nice , we made a ton of beer money splicing the rear rails on em mostly drivers side but we still had some solid metal to graft onto
Quite amazing, I didn't expect it to last that long and still drive. IDK about cars regulations in the US, but in most EU countries, you gotta pass an annual inspection test to keep a car roadworthy. And rust like this (well, not even close to "this") would kick it out instantly and you wouldn't get it approved again until you've repaired it at an authorized shop, with clean cuts and welds and painting on the new parts.
I've got a 2006 with a completely clean frame and the 5.4 triton. I love the darn engine no matter how bad an I'm amazed it runs like that with those issues. Makes me have more confidence in my truck
They're not really that bad. Some people really blow things out of proportion, there are a few points of concern with the 3v 5.4 but they generally warn you well in advance. Don't ignore new sounds they make, get on them immediately and you will likely see several hundred thousand miles with proper maintenance.
5.4 phasers are nothing compared to the timing failures on new engines (GM 3.6, etc). It's just that mechanics will rape you with wrong diags and labor if you go in blind,
Yes, my ‘09 5.4 still runs like new and has been basically trouble free considering I’ve driven the thing for 14 years now. The trick to these engines is proper maintenance from new and they last okay.
I own an '08 F350 with the 6.4L Powerstroke, so I get exactly where you're coming from. Both might need a little more TLC than some of the others, but it'll get the work done.
I mean if you think about it. if you own a tiny car like a smart car or a sports car/ 2 door car or a motorcycle. You'd get just as much or more damage/injuries during a crash.
Hi, guys! Love the channel, I got into restoring old cars because of you guys! Just finished on a 2005 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor that had been sitting for 8 years. You guys were my inspiration, thank you again!
Same here, I thought it would've given up earlier. I feel like if it was tested on a cobble road reliability test it wouldn't last more than a few minutes!
Awesome video! I have a 2010 f150 5.4 4x4 crew cab up here in the middle of Canada and it has always treated me good. I've seen people abuse these things but this was perfect, still educational. The first 5.4 3V's were mostly all pretty bad, but 09-10 was the new gen body style and last gen 5.4 3V's and they are literally un-killable. Perfect way for this truck to go out with the frame it had, and even though the timing was shot on that tired motor, damn it took a crap ton of abuse until literally being crashed into a tree. And yes, you truly see the worst of the human population on FB marketplace, some peoples kids need to lay off the bath salts lol...
People may complain, but I personally think it's one of your better videos for entertainment! Your videos are all entertaining, and also very educational. This was just different but I enjoyed it!
I looked at a truck at a dealership where they put duct tape over the rust then painted the the frame and duct tape. Luckily I had enough sense to peak under the truck.
Hell, I seen bondo on frames. The car didn't even sit right. It looked warped but someone stuffed wads of bondo in the bends to make it look normal which it didn't. It looked like Bondo on a bent frame.
I love the regular JYD content, but somehow watching you guys wreck multiple vehicles was extremely satisfying. I'm sure we wouldn't mind some more crash test investigation videos. Keep it up 👍🏼
I have a first year Wrangler that I bought. Its back bumper is only held on by the gas tank. For 4 years I have looked for someone to fix the frame. The only bad part was the back end frame on both sides. Surprisingly The rest of the frame is in good shape. I just found a good frame last week. Lots of work to do to switch it all over.
Would be way too dangerous to test, but I bet on a track you would feel the entire frame flexxing around cornering or braking and possibly even be able to see it.
The reason for 3 alternators was because of bad grounds cause from crappie metal used in the vehicle. 45 plus years working for on Ford dealerships from Ohio to Florida.
Ok so I bought an ‘04 f150 with the three valve 5.4 and dropped 15000 bucks into before I gave it to a kid to get to work after reverse went out. He rolled it three days later and it was a complete total. It’s oddly satisfying to see you completely obliterate this thing it kinda makes me feel like yeah, take that Ford piece o crappola!😅
Ridiculously entertaining video! I laughed most of the way through it! Definitely not a road worthy truck, but 100 percent a JYD worthy truck! Always love the videos and have learned quite a bit from your normal content. Keep up the good work and keep those videos coming!
OMFG that last listing on Craigslist hoooooly crap. The worst part is you KNOW Kevin got a couple "that will buff out, I have a welder from Harbor Freight and a weekend to kill" replies even though it's obviously a joke listing.
I am getting some real Davesfarm vibes from this video. Seriously, i'm pretty sure i saw a car that was this rusted out go through the same thing, and it still ran and drove after Dave and his buddies got through joyriding it. Even if this isn't your usual content, who cares! It was fun to watch, even if it might have left you a little sore; you're still young, you should be able to bounce back......unless the military wrecked your spine already xD
I loveeeeeee restorations but sometimes honestly going out and finding the worst of the worst and sending it, is one of my most enjoyed things gotta get some good last use out of it
This is actually very informative vid. One thing you’ve might’ve deliberately pointed out. Is it the damage to the truck looks the same as the original crash tests but the trucks only going half the speed.
What maybe “parts only” for you… may actually be a usable vehicle for others. As the video proved…it still has some life left. It could have possibly gotten someone back and forth to work for a few months. People are more resourceful and are in more need than you might think…
This looked like fun, but my 54 year old body would not last long doing this! I love that even after the final tree collision, it still didn't want to die. Also, your cats are awesome!
@@geoffreyreuther5260 the jumps sucked but the rear end crashes wouldn't do anything except jar him around. Avoid whiplash by keeping the head pinned to the headrest lol.
This is pretty interesting since this is a boxed frame instead of the old c-frames you see on previous gen Fords. Boxed frames rot out bad because they collect all sorts of crud inside them, but it seems they can still be pretty strong despite the rot. An old c-frame that was this rotten would have surely folded like a piece of paper after that first jump.
This is the very first time I have watched a video of yours. You make a very good first impression. I liked the rust analysis. I've lived my entire life in Pennsylvania and Ohio and have seen many severely rusted vehicles. This F150 wouldn't have passed a Pennsylvania state Inspection for at least the last five years due to the frame rust. You need to figure out a way to put it on a guide wire/track/radio control and make it go head-on into a tree or wall. I'm sure this truck is FAR less safe than one without the rust.
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hey do a video about how to fix cam phasers.
The lack of ace venture when nature calls references is really lacking
hey dude, looks like you made a typo
R this is still avaliable? I needs truck for me to drove frum Maine to carliforna. Plz let's mee knew.
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The end with the tree buried in the front and Kevin just trying to reverse off it was the most realistic drunk driver post collision simulation I've ever seen on UA-cam.
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"What tree officer?" That's my hood ornament
Same thing that happened with my dads 7.3 f250 he was drunk coming home one night and he tried to reverse it off the pole
Busch Light, y'all. That's how it's done son!
The scariest part of this is that there are probably thousands of vehicles in a similar or worse state driving on the road every day
Come to ohio that’s where they are😩
IMO, considering how much abuse this truck took with them purposely trying to crash and/or destroy it, and the truck surviving, I would think this truck still had some more time left under "normal" driving conditions if they would have fixed the cam phasers. Maybe not daily road use but certainly Farm use or other off-road task / chores.
@@SladeWilsonOGI live in Ohio and I used to own a 94 dodge Ram Van and one day the steering wheel slowly started turning and when I got home it was completely upside down and when I checked it out the frame had snapped and was pulling apart the steering and completely pulled apart when trying to get it on the trailer to send to the scrap yard
I had a 2003 Ford Explorer with frame rot and a multitude of other issues, I also live in Ohio. The suspension was rusted through as well...Not only was the handling and driving extremely rough, but every single time I would go somewhere it would leave small bits of rusted metal on the ground. I only owned it for a little under 3 months before replacing it with a 2014 Mazda3 HB a little over a week ago. I spent 1180 bucks for the Ford.
@@SladeWilsonOGcome the rust belt of new england youll see some scary shit man fr and it will be on cars only 10-15 yrs old with rotten subframes and breaks that will crumble i seen it so many times especially on trucks
As a mechanic that's seen frames this bad, I fully endorse what you did to make sure that F150 never ever sees the road ever again.
You've 1,000s of Chevrolet pick ups falling apart on the road practically new, this guy is bias and full of sht...
I'm a ford fan, but even I know when it's nolonger viable. I've been a working on vehicles for 20 years. I have taken plenty of vehicles off the road in that time. Whenever a customer brings something bad into my shop. I take photos and when possible, show them directly. Honestly, it saves lives in the long run. No brand is immune to this though, it's really a matter of how well it's taken care of.
@@tylerslater4709 at this point it doesn't matter what brand you like, everyone can agree that this is too far gone. could be a GMC like this, anyone would agree its time to put it out to pasture
The lack of yearly safety inspections in most states tells us that nobody cares if the vehicle driving behind or beside our families has any brakes or a working suspension. The state doesn't care, the people don't care, the police don't care, and - shockingly - insurance companies don't care.
Yeah but these states keep putting it down and a lot of people don’t have money for new cars and are left driving theses rusted out cars/trucks and they are dangerous to drive but the states don’t care because they save money. These states need to start doing what the northwest does it’s way better on cars/trucks.
Frankly what this is teaching me is that it is definitely worth welding light rust on a 2005 F-150, because it held up really well for being in such a terrible state that a lesser rusted frame is gonna be plenty strong with some light repair work.
I think you are good!
Just make sure it's not a high tensile frame that needs heat treating.
Honestly seeing Kevin bouncing the thing around the corn field finally made me understand the whole "Built Ford Tough" thing, Top Gear's Hilux would be proud
Definitely seems like they're worth undersealing and keeping nice for sure
Completely agree! That thing took it like a champ. "AiNT eVEN goNA make It HOme" my butt that thing had plenty of strength surprisingly @@TheCynicalJedi
Shit’ll buff out
Clearly the truck was not repairable so using it for educational purposes was it’s last task. I was quite impressed by the durability of a severely compromised frame. Even that crappy 3 valve motor really held up well. I’m a life long Ford truck owner now at age 63. Thanks for the video guys.
just goes to show, rusty frame, bad 5.4 you just can't kill a Rusty But Trusty F150 Ford...
@@KingOfKYA The only thing that would save that truck would be a frame swap with a high mile SW truck.
not even that bad, would have been good for another 200k
As far as the domestic trucks go, and the notion of owning one long-term, Ford makes the best truck overall, but the GM's are cheaper and easier for the average man to fix. Chrysler is out of the conversation due to poorer quality steel and nightmare electrics.
I don't understand that "not repairable". Clearly it was repairable, just zeus some new metal in there. Hell they even had a lift, it would have been pretty easy.
This episode had actually reinforced my confidence in rusty frames. I'm impressed with how tough that truck was
I'm telling you if it's warping the same as hitting a wall at 35 mph when you jump it at 34mph with half the frame gone after a rear end accident. I'm a believer.
same
Hahahaha
Nononono 😂😂
high strength steel is actually strong.
In my opinion don't be afraid to do stuff like this. It was very entertaining to me. Wouldn't mind seeing this every so often. It's an awesome stress reliever and it has a sense of satisfaction.
look up whistlin diesel
@@bluej360 I follow him already
@@bluej360 I find him too destructive... Not my style at all.
He isn't screwing around with junk, he's starting off with pretty good vehicles that he turns into junk.
@@volvo09 MOSTLY pretty good vehicles
squatted trucks * cough *
@@volvo09 pretty good vehicles? Squatted trucks aren't even vehicles
IIHS should totally do a crash test series on rusted frame vehicles. Would be very interesting to see directly comparable data
Problem is you can't control the variables. Every test would have to have identically rusted frames which would be impossible obviously. But it would make for some interesting entertainment.
@user-jm4nj7nz6t you could make the conditions the vehicles are in identical. Salt/h2o mist for x hours a day, for y days (or some other way to induce rust). This would not only test the rust resistance of the vehicles, but once crashed, how much that rust affected its safety
Shouldnt as IISA/NHTSA is known to doctor tests and claim sunglare has no effect on crashes, and that two door versions of standard 4 door models are less safe, etc.
To be honest, I am amazed and impressed how well it did for how extremely destroyed that frame was. I would've thought a lot worse like you had initially thought
That gen F150 has their issues, but they're a hell of a lot tougher than people give them credit for.
@@kingdaniel3519 True. In 04 they boxed the frame in and made it many times stronger. That was also its downfall as the boxed frame wasn't sealed well enough to keep water and salt out, but was sealed well enough to keep it in, so they rotted from the inside out. They added about 1000 lbs to the weight of the old model on a quad cab between the frame upgrade and the extra sound deadening (dampened steel panels, extra thick glass, etc) as buyers wanted more luxury features. It made them slow and undermined the fuel economy gains of the VVT, which was also a disaster.
@@mikelemoine4267 I know that's a problem in the rust belt. Thankfully, I live in the south where that's not an issue. I do want to point out that Ford uses VCT(variable camshaft timing) not VVT. And it wasn't as disastrous as you might think. It caused some problems, sure, but it led to the excellent Coyote. The 5.0 is an upgraded 4.6 and is listed by Ford as being a part of the Modular motor family.
@@kingdaniel3519 Yeah I'm in Florida myself. They had a lot of failures early on with the VCT system, some argue it was more an issue of poor maintenance, others say it happens no matter what. Fordtechmakuloco fixes a lot of them and says the replacement parts solve the issues, so I would not hesitate to buy an old one on the cheap with the expectation to do phasers/timing on it to make it run forever.
I have an 03 F150 Harley and the 2V 5.4 has been super reliable, but it's getting pretty tired (timing chain rattle, scoring on cylinder walls from running a CAI in Arizona by previous owner). Still starts and goes anywhere, but is showing its age. I'm waiting for a deal on a wrecked F150 or Mustang with a Coyote to swap into it. It'll lose some low end grunt in stock form, but it would nearly double the fuel economy and of course a future Whipple addition would wake it up. I might need to go up North and find one that's rusted out but running good!
My 1989 F150 with 285k Michigan winter miles. Rusted almost off the frame sent a Honda Del Sol to the junkyard on a flatbed. The only damage to my truck was the bumper had some red paint on it. Rust doesn’t comprise safety, it’s only weight reduction.
Mechanical engineer here. Some comments to share with you: 1) the rust in the frame appeared to be mostly in the lower flange of the box-beam section and a bit on the lower part of the web (sides of the box section). The remaining part of the web and the top flange--an upside-down U--gave you remarkable resiliency against your cornfield brutality. 2) to give a more dramatic failure in the frame, I suggest loading the bed with bags of sand or other weight, favoring toward the cab, up to the truck's rated capacity and drive backwards into the ridge in your cornfield (in the rougher direction) and at an angle so that one tire hits the ridge before the other tire. A severe failure should appear at the bed mount toward the cab. If not, add more sand.
Sounds like a recipe for a rear end doing a kick flip over the ridge and leaving the cab chilling
if you have to surpass the weight rating to finally get it to break I would argue the truck is safe to drive (definitely not safe in the event of a crash, but safe enough to be driven carefully like your life depends on it)
@@justinkaufman495 He said up to the trucks rated capacity, not surpassing it. I’d argue that driving carefully does not remove the risk of an accident either
@@suhhhdud9682 no but it can make it less likely to happen. and yes he said up until the limit... but then followed up by saying if that doesn't break it add more weight which is where my comment came in. seeing how it did on that crash test though I'd say it's safe in the event of an accident anyways. there's a very specific kind of crash that would make it a problem and that condition wasn't met when they tried to crash it.
I considered it, but didn't want a 50lb projectile behind me 😅 - a fellow engineer
as a mechanic in the "rust belt" for 25 years i can say ive seen this severe amount of rust quite a lot.
and i bet those idiots still drive those rust buckets
Yea thats nothing. My old 08 colorado had rust so bad it was coming off in large 3" chunks. It was so bad the steering column rusted thru
@@Zippytez that's pretty bad. I remember the worst one I've ever seen. we had a 2009 fullsize dodge ram diesel towed in. This was in 2015. They had an extended insurance policy that covered the engine and their engine was blown. Well everything was so rusted virtually no bolts came out that we even tried because the bolt head was still somewhat visible. The insurance company was contacted before work began about the rust and they said they would cover any bolts that broke. Well once we finally got the body bolts out and lifted the cab thier was not much left of the pockets where the bolts went. And further inspection their were major sections of the frame that just we're not safe. We called the insurance company saying that even with a motor the truck wasn't fit for the road and needed to be junked they argued and after some back and forth sent an adjuster who after looking at everything was pretty optimistic that it could be saved with a frame swap. But first he got a ladder and was going to verify the vin number and had to wipe the inside of the windshield to get a view and when he shut the drivers door the weight of the truck cab being supported by the lift arms properly kinda shifted and the rockers were rusted so thin they buckled and the cab started just rocking and slowly getting lower until the actual doors were sitting on the lift arms. The adjuster just turned and looked at us with a shocked look on his face and we were just as shocked to be honest. He said I don't care what I was told by my boss I'm totaling this truck. My boss just kinda chuckled and said yea you kinda already did bub. They cut the customer a check for way more than I thought they would. Basically they paid him what that truck would be worth running and no mechanical issues. Oh and by the way the engine blew because the oil pan had rusted thru most of the way around above the oil level inside and he hit a hard bump and the damn thing almost came completely off. That was just a freak occurrence for a truck to be that far gone. But how did your steering column rust thru. That's pretty bad
@georgemccune2923 it had been my great grandfather's, he bought it a year before he passed. Me and my father used it primarily for hunting and just hauling stuff and sat anytime between that (potentially months). I'm in Midwest pa, and the salt just chewed that poor truck to bits
@@Zippytez ah. Makes sense now. You guys get some brutal winter storms where you are? We get that lake effect snow pushed down from lake superior and lake Michigan before it turns east and heads your way. So you are a fellow member of the rust belt. I'm on the Indiana Illinois border just south of lake Michigan. I've probably been thru your area many times on the Pennsylvania turnpike heading to visit cousins in West Windsor New Jersey as well as up in the Poconos. Been on the turnpike when the fog was so bad they shut it down and had everybody taking next exit. we got rerouted south on 80 I think towards DC. Can't remember exactly as you couldn't see the signs to even read them. Fog was so thick like driving thru cotton. Never seen fog that thick in my life.
I used to work at an auto shop and sold cars and car parts on Craigslist. Dealing with people was an absolute nightmare. Finding a considerate person with a reasonable request who was not trying to lowball you and could communicate in halfway competent grammar was a complete unicorn.
On another note, all this rust makes me glad I live in the south. My 1990 Crown Victoria's frame is still fine despite having been through numerous winters here.
Of course your Crown Victoria’s frame is fine, it’s a Crown Victoria. The Crown Victoria is immortal.
@@AWizardAndaMouse3432exept for plastic coolant lines in heat saturated areas and bushings made of hopes and dreams.
You know with how much frame had been thinned out it probably turned it into some kind of freak ass giant leaf spring, which is probably why it didn't immediately snap in half lmao
TL;DR, the frame also acts as the suspension
@@TR33ZY_CRTM Dude literally can't be bothered to read a single sentence.
@@roadwarrior114
Who tf reads in 2022?
@@TR33ZY_CRTM Smart people.
@@roadwarrior114 if they're so smart why do they have to read all the time
I am honestly impressed with how well that frame held up even with such severe corrosion. Makes me feel a whole lot better about mine!
same got frame rot on my drivers side nothing like this tho. still going to buy another one with a good frame transfer the parts i bought over and powdercoat it
So is the next item on your to-do list to find a good orthopedic doctor or chiropractor? 😂
That will be a bigger bill then the money he got from scrap
@@JohnsonT2724 stonks
Many times I see restorations the body is perfect but many corners cut with framework
@@JunkyardDigs kevin what ever happened to that barn in sigourney Iowa where you got 2 squarebodys and a s10
Nice!!!
I was really impressed how hard it was to destroy as rotted as that frame was.
It hold better than a new chevy pick up...
Well, it ain't an alumiduty lol
I had a '94 Chevy S10 that the frame had rusted so bad in 4 spots that you could put your hand through. It was my first truck for $400 just to drive to school. I ended up repairing the frame in the worst spot so I could drive it again, but I actually got rear ended a few months later, and the thing folded in half so hard that we were lucky to be unharmed. Rusty frames are not a joke
I had a couple of s10 blazers 84 86 and 94. The frames held up ok but the bodies fell apart. 94 s10 blazer was still old body, pickup was newer body
Maybe the older frame was better
Hell they didn't have good crash ratings brand new lol
Got a 92 S10 that I'm so grateful is holding up strong and that makes me feel better after reading this not gonna lie haha
These f150s have fully boxed frames, I had a late 90s Sonoma and the frames on those are way thinner than the full size trucks. Apples to oranges really
@@carloskyoto5516 if it's not rotted use fluid film
Don't be afraid to put out stuff like this man, your all about teaching, and giving knowledge to people. This is one big subject that needs to be taught more in my opinion so that maybe we can have less fatalities on the road due to this problem.
I think he thought it was more of a liability thing. He didn't want idiots to try this or them to take it that everyday driving is fine on bad frames since it's still in one piece after this beating.
Would you let your kids & grandkids in this car at high speed
No, I would let myself be in it though
Cornfield Science should be a regular thing imo, i thoroughly enjoyed this
A quarterly thing, once every 3 months a good myth buster about old/clapped out cars so people can see what's actually true and false.
@@OffWalrusCargo yeah that could work
welp, theres the name for Kevin's next channel: Cornfield Science
@@OffWalrusCargo could have it as a car Mythbusters. I.e trans in a bottle working or not or the motor honey stuff working as stated
@@oldredz7189 Look up Neutral Drop, they do this shit (and more!)
"Is that the frame stiffener?" That was a lot funnier than it needed to be lmao
wasn't funny
I really like the idea of this because I have always been curious about how rusted frames would hold up in a crash, but I'm not excited about Kevin hurting himself to prove a point. Could you do a collab with Peter Sripol @PeterSripol , who lives in your area, to make a remote controlled version so that we could see what it would look like to crash at full speed without Kevin getting hurt?
Great idea, love both channels!
I actually went to AIT with his brother! He's out east I believe. Long ways from here
@@JunkyardDigs crazy small world
i think peter lives in or around ohio
$1,000,000! 😂
I've parted out a couple cars, and unfortunately it doesn't seem to matter how specific you are on marketplace, those are the exact replies you'll get. This one hit home, great video!
So very true. They really don’t understand that, ahem… THIS VEHICLE ISN’T SAFE!!
FB Marketplace seems to be made for and by people who does not have basic common sense.
It's either sellers have prices are listed incorrectly ($0, or $1234.56). Or buyers who cannot read descriptions at all, DM's "Is This Available" and proceeds to ghost you, or desperately trying to lowball you. "But with this price, I'll take it off your hands right now".
Never again.
@@germaineliew2012 Also the bad searching features for yard sales, and sellers not being familiar with _how to advertise a yard sale there._ Hint: *Never select "ships to you" for a **_Yard Sale._* You'll be getting people from Alaska asking you where your yard sale is. And for Pete's sake, post an address, or at least say which road will have a yard sale sign on it!
I also doubt you'll be able to fit that Bed, or Couch, or Refrigerator in my Mailbox. So don't choose *"ships to you"* when you have no intent of actually following through with it.
Fact check=true. I've put a number of "parts car" listings on Marketplace, and craigslist before that. They are absolute idiot-magnets. There is literally nothing that can be described in the ad or explained on the phone that will convince these morons that it's not some overlooked bargain driver car. They will drive anything that moves. And a surprising number of them will inquire about it anyway because they don't understand what things like "locked up engine" or "broken frame" means... "No title" doesn't faze them at all.
@@germaineliew2012 to be fair (is that available) is a pain in the ass to get around. On one post i tried to share to a buddy of mine and it automatically sent is this available to the seller. Facebook needs to get rid of it!
Built Ford tough...on a whole nother level! It was really interesting to see. I was amazed to see how long it did last. Hit the tree and still tried to go more.
Takin' it to the hnl ;-)
I think you really need to acknowledge the educational value of the video. For those of us who like to fix up and run older vehicles, this video demonstrates that even though a vehicle may appear to be irreparable, it might be worth some time and money to keep it on the road. Thanks for posting.
You actually showcased good engineering. It was much stronger than thought. Not road worthy, but row crop tested.
Yes, this is what Ford calls "weight savings" prior to the aluminum frame idea.
@@gorkyd7912 having done bodywork, I much prefer the aluminum f150s because things like removing the bed is much easier because it’s way lighter. 4 guys could take an aluminum bed off vs 6-8 for steel beds
@@Fhwgads11 And yet when the steel one completely rusts out it can be removed by 1 person. Innovation, deal with it.
@@gorkyd7912 the frames on the new ford trucks are still steel. It’s only the bodies that are aluminum
@@mattweeks2272 They experimented with aluminum frames a while back and iirc it made the vehicles too light to handle towing.
Despite how bad these 5.4s are, still my favorite generation of F-150. Passed my driving test in dad's 06' 4.6, started to do that low idle dip & lost compression in the rear passenger side cylinder. Still miss her every day, she was the last vehicle givin to me. Always take care of stuff that was givin to you, never take gifts or hand me downs for granted.
I heard the two valve 5.4 in the Econoline vans were better than the three valve motors with the phasers in the F series trucks.
my 4.6 made it too 320k before the timing chain went out! i loved that truck, it got me to work and home safe everyday. even when the timing chain tensior went out, it sounded like hell but still got me home!
@jeffrobodine8579 yes the 2v Tritons are great. 3v is junk.
That’s what I had for 9 years but mine had tne 5.4 and put 180k on it with no major engine/transmission issues. Only swapped trucks cause of the high mileage, 360k and it’s still running as a backup truck.
Got a ‘14 Silverado to replace it and already lost an engine in it at 210k miles but otherwise I like this truck. I work on a farm and not much if any towing so I don’t push the trucks too hard but I know the truck was owned by a construction company before we bought it.
I own a 06 f150, and I made sure that the frame was still solid when I bought it a few years ago and it’s still a solid truck, probably one of the only ones in the north east. At least now I get to watch someone beat on one of these trucks and have it not be me, awesome video 👍
There was a guy in upstate NY that would bondo the frame, shoot some rustoleum to make it look new :lol:. Hope yours is not one of them :lol:
Growing up in basically the desert, I never imagined things could actually rust out that bad till I seen vehicles from other parts of the world. That frame and body would still be like new where I’m from.😂
Living in IL, if you want anything nice it's either AZ/NM lol. Cracked dashes and upholstery are relatively easy to fix, rotted bodies and frames are not. However if you've got really low standards( or just don't care), then IL and WI have all the rotted out piles of crap that you could ever want lmao
I've never doubted the durability of the F150... But this totally blew me away. Great video.
I own a Ram but will admit Ford does in fact make the strongest overall truck chassis. Bent a Chevy towing and a tundra off-roading. Yuck
Oil spray annually not forgetting to do the inside of the frame or crossmembers the truck would have saved this truck .
I never doubt older 2000s fords definitely built better than modern crap of today
😂😂😂 I can’t stop laughing over market place section. That’s is the most accurate representation of how the entire market place works
This proves my point to everyone that criticized my frame swap. I had a 93 S10 and the frame was practically gone in the back, only so many times you can weld on it, swapped that frame for my old 91 longbed frame that I restored, everyone is like wondering why, well thanks to rust, this is exactly why, thanks Kevin for the video and for your inspiration to keep old junk on the road!
10:07 bruh this dude was gonna put his kid in the most unsafe pos he could find 😭
Kevin, I love your videos. I have been a life long GM person, but seeing that truck running and trying to pull its self off that tree gives new life to the phrase Built Ford Tough.
That gen F150 has its problems but it gets more criticism than it deserves. They're a lot tougher than people think.
Absolutely 💯.....
The fact the drivers door still open and closed better than my squarebody hurts me on a deep level
I took my old Beetle off the road after a garage completely failed to spot the severely rusted frame head on it (you know, the bit that the entire front axle is bolted onto), when they swapped the front axle. The car would pull to the left or right depending on what mood it was in, and the creaking sounds from up front also told me something was definitely not right. It still handled speed bumps like a champ, though, strangely enough. The really scary bit was when the guy who was supposed to get it roadworthy again, had the steering column snap on him while just pushing the car at his place. The "crumble zone" on the steering column was completely rusted out.
Sometimes it's not the big things that'll get you, but the small.
I'm surprised that Ford hasn't contacted you about buying this footage. This was the best promotional footage for "Built Ford Tough." I've ever seen!
Yes but it also exposes a rot issue that occurs less than 20 years of age.
@@jeffisaliardue to exposure to insane amounts of salt courtesy of your state's DOT. Not a fair comparison.
I'd be embarrassed of this truck if I was Ford. They know they don't build em like they used to.
@@thealgorithmisbrokenyou sound dumb. Did you just watch the fucking video. You’re slow af
How are you not over 1 million subscribers yet?? By far one of the best channels on UA-cam.
That Ford (?) was incredibly excellent despite looking fit for tin foil. Only. I'm speechless other than some of that damage made me laugh a little several times though I tried to stay stoic and objective. That is so much better than men give it credit for. Coming to buy it others will decry it's usefulness and whimper about its worthless condition. But right now I have decided to keep my truck until the deck sags around the rusted frame and drags on the ground like a child in her mother's ankle length skirt. Thanks for lifting my spirit and making the value of my truck increase by five thousand percent. ❤
Really does show why ensuring the underside of a vehicle is cleaned on a regular basis, especially in areas that see alot of road salt!
On a side note, I've been to many Demolition Derbies, and usually as the body bends on cars the frame tends to stick out even with regular 5-20mph impacts!
even cleaning them, the fully boxed frames will rust from the inside. cleaning on a open channel frame helps. or you have to oil the inside of the frame if you're in an area that salts the roads.
The fact that it took all that abuse despite its obvious problems pretty much has me sold! Gotta go find me a (not so rusty) F150!! 😂
This one is a 2004
This is a good, and entertaining, example of what can happen if you're rear ended with a badly rusted frame. And this was less than 15 MPH. In a real world situation, it would be much faster than that. I like saving old vehicles. But it was time to let these 3 retire permanently. Hope you're not in too much pain Kevin!
Oh hell that's what the Tylenol is for!
Especially when many vehicles have the fuel tank near the back end. A car could go right under and bust the fuel tank while all of the broken lights and battery being up front could ignite it all.
Rusty frames always scared me to death. After watching this I was shocked how it held up
I knew an old farmer years ago who always drove real old cars. One day he took a 45 minute trip , put some heavy stuff in the trunk and drove over a set of RR tracks at about 5 mph . He got stuck on the tracks when the frame bent in a 45° angle just forward of the rear axle . He was towed off the tracks straight to the junk yard where the car belonged in the 1st place
I guess the schedule was on his side if he got a car towed off the tracks before getting turned into what would assuredly be a dust cloud of rust by a train.
@@NEEDbacon
yes very lucky , with the frame being in such bad shape he was lucky it didnt fail earlier
This is the craziest, most reckless off the wall stuff you've produced....and I loved every second of it
I'm so glad to see many safety measures taken during this test. I'm wondering how much my hospital bill would've been if I did the same thing. Admittedly, it does look like fun. LOL
Two main problems! 1.) Ford, GMC have never make good paint jobs with any FRAME from factory! 2.) The owners of the new truck have never made good protection for FRAME!!!
The best of both worlds, a rusted out frame AND a 3v 5.4! Yay! On another note, I'm surprised that a body shop somewhere didn't buy it to maybe fix a rollover truck. The body still looked kinda ok. One of the most entertaining videos I've seen in quite a while! Built Ford tough buddy!
If this frame rusted out, chances are, other ones have done so too. There are probably lots of more or less donor trucks for body parts. But yes, it kinda hurt seeing usable replacement parts getting trashed. -Cool, but wasteful. Still, he did try to sell it for parts.
That truck really crunched down.
I would say that MAYBE the engine is good. I want to say the transmission and rear end can be good BUT, when I had my transmission rebuilt, they found the mounting ears on the transmission case cracked, all of them. because of the tight tolerances, they cannot reweld it. The case has to be replaced. And my truck had not been in a accident and my frame is not rusted other than surface rust.
The rear end would have to be taken apart and checked for reuse but still may be a viable part.
I'm impressed how well it survived the test, being as rusty as it was.
Im sure Fords happy with how it performed.
Honestly, super impressed with the toughness of that f150!
These F150s get a lot of crap, some of which is deserved, but they're a lot tougher than people think.
@@kingdaniel3519 yeah i bought my 94 f-150 4x4 5.0 5 speed after watching zip ties and bias plies cuz he has me convinced that they are some of the toughest trucks on the planet!
The truth is all truck are tough yes even the Japanese and Chinese trucks. There is a reason why so many people use them so it only makes sense. I'm sick and tired of people laying durability solely on name brand it really is annoying, these people truly have no clue just how close to the same ALL vehicles are out there. Here you want a frigging name brand ? How about Earth Vehicle lol !
@@Wildstar40 Shows how foolish you are. Not all trucks are equal. Some have very serious deficiencies compared to others. The market determines the superior product.
ROFL... all trucks are tough. You are SERIOUSLY clueless and have earned the epic facepalm award for the week! 🤔🤦🏻♂️🙄
- Max Giganteum
As a 2005 F150 owner (thankfully with a clean frame and mechanically perfect) this puts me at ease. Thank you for this experiment.
Love how the truck is like smoldering against the tree and the cat is totally chill about everything.
I like how the safety supervisor made sure that you were removing the airbag in a safe manner.
If the transmission cooler hadn't cracked open I'm pretty sure that thing would have dragged itself out of the tree.
Agreed!
yeah its funny the trashed f150 took several hits and the GM crap was done after only 1 hit each!
@@mromatic17 yea totally agree not like my 400k GMC denali could have hit a tree and kept running... or did you miss that those gm cars were... cars not trucks and they had already spent an entire day doing the grand prix gran prix. After also being cars bought for extremely cheap because of high miles and rust themselves. but sure nice dig at GM, cause all GMs are crap.
@@compzac i was talking about how they were running and driving fine just like the f-150 and when they got in one wreck all ran into the f150 they all died after 1 hit. yes trucks are tougher but this f-150 with all its rust and rot was about the same level of becoming immobile as the cars since it was so bad. the only thing that gm does well is build v8's everything else they cheap TF out on. theres several tens of thousands of reviews in consumer reports about how overall fords are built better and fewer problems over gm products! hell even their newer v8's are having really bad engine failures! my brother owned a 2016 camaro ss and the engine failed at 23k miles and he bought a brand new 2021 corvette and same thing the displacement on demand v8's are shitting the bed look it up but you wont cuz brand whoring! There are a lot of gm products I love but wouldn't daily cuz of the problems they have!
@@mromatic17 bro ur username is fukkin hilarious.
So conclusion must be...
Stay away from rusted cars...
Thanks for taking the time to make the video and share it..
that was amazing. soo much tougher than i expected. this is proof a lot of fun can still be had with rust buckets.
Awesome! Marketplace is a pain in the ass...I listed my 2nd gen cummings and I get asked about fuel economy and how much rust it has! People have no clue.Keep sending out the great content!
Craigslist is no better. I've sold mowers on Craigslist for years. My ads are THE BEST out there; a VERY thorough description and lots of well-lit pictures! Idiots STILL call and ask questions THAT ARE CLEARLY ANSWERED IN THE AD! Everybody "wants a good deal" but is too stupid/ignorant to have any idea of what they are looking at or how to assess it.
Well, it's Cummins and the rust question is valid. I'd say the fuel question is valid too since it could give insight into potential fuel system or engine issues. You wouldn't ask these basic questions when buying a vehicle?
@@snowrocket And ebay is just the same, read the ******* description.
That would have been hilarious if it drove itself out of its grave at the end. Kinda sad it didn’t, but it put up an extremely impressive fight.
Cornfield science and a great example of why undercoating is essential in the rust belt zone.
My daily is an 04 f150 and I was able to put it On a lift for the first time and I found a rust hole straight through the frame that I wasn’t able to see just normally climbing under it and this video helped me out safety wise, you might have just saved my life 😅
Wow, just like this truck
I have always been a fan of this type of Ford Super Salt with frame stiffener equipped.
Same, they’re getting hard to find
There's a channel called "Just Rolled In" that I love to watch because of all the extreme cases mechanics share, just like this one.
Even worse, those cars are actually moving on the streets, waiting for something really bad to happen.
Nothing new ,in the early and mid 80s we had quite a few G eneral M istakes come into our shop with the complaint that “ My bumper is loose “ cutlass es ,granprixs etc … really sad because the outer bodies were still nice , we made a ton of beer money splicing the rear rails on em mostly drivers side but we still had some solid metal to graft onto
There is some great content on that channel!!
Quite amazing, I didn't expect it to last that long and still drive. IDK about cars regulations in the US, but in most EU countries, you gotta pass an annual inspection test to keep a car roadworthy. And rust like this (well, not even close to "this") would kick it out instantly and you wouldn't get it approved again until you've repaired it at an authorized shop, with clean cuts and welds and painting on the new parts.
I’ve seen a lot of crashes like this at the same speed you tested at and the damage is incredible, thanks for your demo
That held up surprisingly well for how bad it looked. You guys have too much fun !
I've got a 2006 with a completely clean frame and the 5.4 triton. I love the darn engine no matter how bad an I'm amazed it runs like that with those issues. Makes me have more confidence in my truck
They're not really that bad. Some people really blow things out of proportion, there are a few points of concern with the 3v 5.4 but they generally warn you well in advance. Don't ignore new sounds they make, get on them immediately and you will likely see several hundred thousand miles with proper maintenance.
5.4 phasers are nothing compared to the timing failures on new engines (GM 3.6, etc). It's just that mechanics will rape you with wrong diags and labor if you go in blind,
@@Demoralized88 yea displacement on demand killed chevrolet
and dodge cant get oil to their lifters
Yes, my ‘09 5.4 still runs like new and has been basically trouble free considering I’ve driven the thing for 14 years now. The trick to these engines is proper maintenance from new and they last okay.
I own an '08 F350 with the 6.4L Powerstroke, so I get exactly where you're coming from. Both might need a little more TLC than some of the others, but it'll get the work done.
People on Facebook marketplace are special. Very special.
I feel like you guys do a WAY better job showing the world that rusty frames are actually very safe 😂.
I don't know about "very"..
Imagine getting sideswiped/rear ended by a newer truck/suv traveling 50+ mph. If your frame is rusted then you will obviously be fine
@@Unclebobby82 exactly hahaha. That’s what I’m saying as well.
These are low speed crashes. Force in a crash increases by speed squared. These results aren't impressive for sub 30mph.
I mean if you think about it. if you own a tiny car like a smart car or a sports car/ 2 door car or a motorcycle. You'd get just as much or more damage/injuries during a crash.
Hi, guys! Love the channel, I got into restoring old cars because of you guys! Just finished on a 2005 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor that had been sitting for 8 years. You guys were my inspiration, thank you again!
Check your frame.
@@josephschaekel5293 😂😂
@@josephschaekel5293 you're not wrong Vic frames be shit.
I can’t believe how long it lasted.
Its good for another 200k miles .... no problem !
Same here, I thought it would've given up earlier. I feel like if it was tested on a cobble road reliability test it wouldn't last more than a few minutes!
@@darcybowyer5743
it would be like stepping on a giant puffball.... POOF...
That's what I was thinking.
Damn man, my neck and back are hurting for you just seeing the whiplash from those reverse collisions with that tree...
I play classical guitar for over 15 years now and I got all questions right at the first time, without stopping the video. Great test 💪 nice work !!
Awesome video! I have a 2010 f150 5.4 4x4 crew cab up here in the middle of Canada and it has always treated me good. I've seen people abuse these things but this was perfect, still educational. The first 5.4 3V's were mostly all pretty bad, but 09-10 was the new gen body style and last gen 5.4 3V's and they are literally un-killable. Perfect way for this truck to go out with the frame it had, and even though the timing was shot on that tired motor, damn it took a crap ton of abuse until literally being crashed into a tree. And yes, you truly see the worst of the human population on FB marketplace, some peoples kids need to lay off the bath salts lol...
The 2nd pass in the truck when the bed was shaking violently, i lost it 🤣🤣🤣
People may complain, but I personally think it's one of your better videos for entertainment! Your videos are all entertaining, and also very educational. This was just different but I enjoyed it!
I used to have 0 confidence in rusty frames but now I trust them just a little bit 😂
Credit to you, not allowing this back on the road. A lot of people would flip it.
I looked at a truck at a dealership where they put duct tape over the rust then painted the the frame and duct tape. Luckily I had enough sense to peak under the truck.
Hell, I seen bondo on frames. The car didn't even sit right. It looked warped but someone stuffed wads of bondo in the bends to make it look normal which it didn't. It looked like Bondo on a bent frame.
I love the regular JYD content, but somehow watching you guys wreck multiple vehicles was extremely satisfying. I'm sure we wouldn't mind some more crash test investigation videos. Keep it up 👍🏼
I have a first year Wrangler that I bought.
Its back bumper is only held on by the gas tank.
For 4 years I have looked for someone to fix the frame. The only bad part was the back end frame on both sides. Surprisingly The rest of the frame is in good shape.
I just found a good frame last week.
Lots of work to do to switch it all over.
10:44 love the cats just chillin all around you
Would be way too dangerous to test, but I bet on a track you would feel the entire frame flexxing around cornering or braking and possibly even be able to see it.
This frame brought to you by the Iowa DOT. One of Cargill Salt's top 10 customers.
I just sold an 05 a while back, had that truck for 6 years. Aside from the engine, and 3 alternators I put into it, I loved it.
The reason for 3 alternators was because of bad grounds cause from crappie metal used in the vehicle.
45 plus years working for on Ford dealerships from Ohio to Florida.
@Bill SRQ I'd believe it. Still liked that truck.
Ok so I bought an ‘04 f150 with the three valve 5.4 and dropped 15000 bucks into before I gave it to a kid to get to work after reverse went out. He rolled it three days later and it was a complete total. It’s oddly satisfying to see you completely obliterate this thing it kinda makes me feel like yeah, take that Ford piece o crappola!😅
one of the best car destruction video i saw in a while...good job
if what is like seeing is broken stuff check out whistlindiesel if u already havent
@@Robo-xk4jm i followed him while ago..but this one was also for real real quality destruction
Your "non-typical" content and your "typical" content are still providing a service of entertainment unmatched by most. I love it all, either way!
Ridiculously entertaining video! I laughed most of the way through it! Definitely not a road worthy truck, but 100 percent a JYD worthy truck! Always love the videos and have learned quite a bit from your normal content. Keep up the good work and keep those videos coming!
Great vid! My truck is all rotted out and now I can think of it as a safety crumple zone!
OMFG that last listing on Craigslist hoooooly crap.
The worst part is you KNOW Kevin got a couple "that will buff out, I have a welder from Harbor Freight and a weekend to kill" replies even though it's obviously a joke listing.
I am getting some real Davesfarm vibes from this video.
Seriously, i'm pretty sure i saw a car that was this rusted out go through the same thing, and it still ran and drove after Dave and his buddies got through joyriding it. Even if this isn't your usual content, who cares! It was fun to watch, even if it might have left you a little sore; you're still young, you should be able to bounce back......unless the military wrecked your spine already xD
Oh man i have not heard that name in years that defiantly
bringing back some memories
Ah yes, I see you also partake in the arts! I miss him... outside of the whole... y'know...
Have not heard that name in years niether. And the dude has a point
Sky hill and the redneck roller coaster, those were the days at the farm!
You just unlocked some ancient memories I didn't know I had.
Wow! I think this video reinforced that rusty truck frames are not that bad 🤣. A new passenger car would have not survived that much abuse. 🤔
Two things impressed me: Kevin getting the truck to run pretty easily, and the tires not blowing out. Are those post-recall Firestones?
Awesome video. Don't even think Ford would be upset. Sort of shows Ford tough even rotted to shit lol.
I loveeeeeee restorations but sometimes honestly going out and finding the worst of the worst and sending it, is one of my most enjoyed things gotta get some good last use out of it
I don't usually go for destruction videos but this was educational and entertaining! That truck took way more abuse than I thought it would!
This is actually very informative vid. One thing you’ve might’ve deliberately pointed out. Is it the damage to the truck looks the same as the original crash tests but the trucks only going half the speed.
@@amytaylor5454 doing good and you?
@@amytaylor5454 born in AZ, moved to WA St @ 14, and lived in many places.
@@amytaylor5454 other than all the “weather balloons” we’re good. 🤪
@@amytaylor5454 to where
What maybe “parts only” for you… may actually be a usable vehicle for others.
As the video proved…it still has some life left.
It could have possibly gotten someone back and forth to work for a few months.
People are more resourceful and are in more need than you might think…
This looked like fun, but my 54 year old body would not last long doing this! I love that even after the final tree collision, it still didn't want to die.
Also, your cats are awesome!
I'm pretty sure his chiropractor is seeing dollar signs. My back hurts just watching this.
@@geoffreyreuther5260 the jumps sucked but the rear end crashes wouldn't do anything except jar him around. Avoid whiplash by keeping the head pinned to the headrest lol.
This is pretty interesting since this is a boxed frame instead of the old c-frames you see on previous gen Fords. Boxed frames rot out bad because they collect all sorts of crud inside them, but it seems they can still be pretty strong despite the rot. An old c-frame that was this rotten would have surely folded like a piece of paper after that first jump.
This is the very first time I have watched a video of yours. You make a very good first impression. I liked the rust analysis. I've lived my entire life in Pennsylvania and Ohio and have seen many severely rusted vehicles. This F150 wouldn't have passed a Pennsylvania state Inspection for at least the last five years due to the frame rust. You need to figure out a way to put it on a guide wire/track/radio control and make it go head-on into a tree or wall. I'm sure this truck is FAR less safe than one without the rust.