I think the idea isn’t that he’s killing innocent people (he kills criminals and killer mercenaries only), but that all he does is kill people by wading into THEIR territory and getting himself into situations that leads to him gunning people down. I mean, he is a treasure hunter, so it’s inevitable, but he does kill a lot of people, even if all of them are bad dudes who aren’t there due to good vibes and good will.
@@MaximumPayine that’s what I tried to say as well. He gets himself into these situations and kills people, even if they are also mercenaries and bandits or criminals in general. H
@@TemmieContingenC ... Uh, how often does bro actually go into anyone's territory? Is the park on the turn of the block yours because all your boys set themselves up there? Who the fuck wouldn't shoot you in the face if you pulled a gun on someone for "stepping on your turf", the park no one can lay claim to?
Nathan Drake by himself killed nearly as many people as the 9/11 attacks I know for a fact the mercenary business in the Uncharted Universe breathed a huge sigh of relief when they realized Nate was no longer treasure hunting
Nathan Drake canonically has insane luck. Every time he’s shot the bullets miss, even point blank. And the only time he dies in game is when the first bullet hits him.
If you watch in slow mo every once in a while, they will graze him. Generally speaking, though, they zip like a hair past him. It's a really fun detail because you can actually see it in game. As far as we see in the series, he only ever gets a proper body shot once by Flynn on the train.
TBF, he literally did just get shipwrecked, hadn't eaten, and had been in gun fights the whole day. Also, Nadine was thinner and quicker, so they were never able to touch her.
@@dbzking02in 3 Nathan walked through the Rub Al Khali desert without food and water for days suffering from heat stroke during the day and freezing during night and in the same level he can kill a fully grown man with his bare hands, The shipwreck should have been a minor inconvenience in comparison
@@Mike0405HNate Fillion. He actually made a fan film that’s really good too. I think. The movie is a good adventure movie and I think the casting is fine, under any other name than uncharted. Good movie, bad uncharted movie
I hope someday dead meat should do more video game killcounts in the future becuase its pretty boring if its just movies in the horror genre they are tv series and comics that he only did one
I'm pretty sure they stick to horror movies cuz James likes horror. I enjoyed his videos all these years. There are other UA-cam channels that count kills too. They just aren't as popular
I think I just realised, or maybe came to a headcanon, but I think the reason Nate so easily believes the bullshit his bro comes up with about the drug lord is only because he himself lived a fucking insane life and was just like “ah yeah sounds reasonable, I’ve done crazier”
"You think I am a monster, but you're no different from me, Drake. How many men have you killed? How many...just today? That's it boy! No compassion, no mercy!" Lazaravic to Drake(Uncharted 2)
I’m still annoyed how he pointed out very clearly how Drake is a remorseless killer who has a body count that would make warlords blush but the game sidesteps it and never addresses it cause it would break the persona they want for Drake as a charming funny guy.
I always like to believe what happens in gameplay is like Nate’s subjective POV as a badass hero taking down bad guys, when what actually happens is a lot less bloodshed and a lot more running and screaming “OH CRAP”
Or this is nates subjective pov as a badass hero and what actually happens is a lot more bloodshed and a lot more mercenaries trying to run or surrender
In the first game you stay in an island for some hours and the drug dealer in charge of the mercenaries go "my men are dying! Everyone is scared shitlless thet cant even piss" and Nate's there like "lmfao its me"
To be fair, he only takes the lives of those who wish to take his life too. Also security guards, though we dont know if theyre the "shoot on sight" kinda guys.
Yeah, in all fairness, the enemies Drake fights don't hesitate to kill him. He frequently gets put into a "him-or-me" situation where he can't negotiate with them. He initially tried to negotiate with Rafe because he, Nathan and Sam were allies before Rafe was consumed by jealousy. He didn't want to kill Rafe at all and wanted all three of them to leave Avery's ship alive. Uncharted as a series takes cues from action-adventure serials where swashbuckling heroes take down bad guys while exploring ancient ruins and finding treasure, especially Indiana Jones. Indy has killed people for lesser reasons than Drake has and no one mentions how heartless Indy can be but everyone calls Drake a murderer. It makes no sense.
Nate didn't kill a single security guard though. The one he threw over the edge of the roof landed in the water, and you can see the guard swimming away.
It's mentioned once at the end of two, the villain in his evil rant at the end calls out how nate isn't any better "how many men have you killed, just today?" And...thats about it
It comes down to ludonarrative dissonance and the suspension of disbelief. Is killing 10 people alot? In a shooter game: not even close. In real life: absolutely and I think most normal people would be traumatised.
i used to like to think he canonnically just knock people out but then nadine talks about how her mercenary has been wiped out in the end of uncharted 4
*when you have a nice, cozy job as a security guard for a snobby, treasure hunting rich guy but hear that there is an intruder around named Nathan Drake.* 💀
He doesn't kill without a reason, it's mostly just self defence. There is one scene in A Thief's End, where Sam has Nadine at gunpoint, but Nate saves her and gives up the gun to Rafe, risking his own life
To be fair, I don’t think Nate’s usually in it to be a “hero.” It’s almost always him starting off like, “Oh here’s an opportunity to find a treasure and make some money,” and then he finds out bad people are after it while searching for it and is like, “Well I guess I better stop them since I’m already here.”
no arthur morgan is a killer but he aware of what he does so does jason brody in far cry 3 everybody treat him like a monster a lot of mass murderer in a video games aware of their action or it just being non canon but nathan canonically kill all those people
@@wingman4759Until you realise bro was the whole reason a city with a lot of people was infected in the first place, logically he has the high ground 😏
Clicked on the video to see how many people Nathan killed and got a quick retelling of the entire story of the series giving me good memories. Pretty cool!
What ya’ll don’t get is you can’t take Nathan Drakes body count front the game 100% literal cause it’s LITERALLY impossible for a single man to kill that many people. The enemy count is inflated for gameplay purposes. Yes he kills quite a few, the game acknowledges is, but not HUNDREDS upon HUNDREDS per adventure
His kill count is slightly inflated for gameplay purposes as proved by the ludo-narrative dissonance trophy in 4, but it probably is a few hundred as addressed in 2.
Considering most people have at least 5 people that care about them deeply and love them that’s over 14k people affected by the deaths of the people Nate has killed
In just 12 years he killed 2808 people, an absolute psycho. If he didn't retire from these type of adventures at age 40, he would maybe kill over 5000 people and he only had his first confirmed kill at age 28 or so
bro majority of "heroes" murdered bajilions of enemies in their stories it's either slow story with little to no action or constant action and mountain of bodies
You're right, he probably should have just not shot back at all the armed mercenaries, pirates and armies shooting at him. Would have been a pretty short 1st and only game in the series though haha ;)
42:20 fun fact it's actually possible to do this part entirely stealth due to the silencer you are given (as long as a corpse isn't spotted) which doesn't trigger the enemy reinforcement to come, bringing the total kills slightly down!
I like the detail that Nate doesn’t kill any of the museum guards on Uncharted 2 which kind of leads me to believe he has some sort of moral compass, even though he definitely has a little cognitive dissonance…
Yeah, he does only kill people who are in the same game as him (apathetic mercenaries and criminals). It’s just the fact that he gets into these situations
I was literally thinking about this during the Last of Us 2 when it came out. People were like Joel is such a bad person no shit it's a apocalypse. Towards the end he began to change and he was still liked in his own regards. Rick and Lee from the Walking dead lasted about a couple of months before they started to become ruthless and brutal too. Lara Croft is a killer too. Literally everybody in any video game is a killer.
He got some of the treasure in 4 which helped him buy the scrap company and the beach house?? Depending on the gold they had with them, they had to been worth millions if one even believed they were from Henry Avery's treasure pile.
The games acknowledge that Nathan Drake is a terrible person. Most famously in the second game when the villain straight up asks him how many people he killed just that day. Also you could argue him being an anti hero due to actually doing things for the good of the world.
I never realized until just now, but Nate really does only kill dudes who are actively out to kill him first. It really is just a GIGANTIC self-defense case in every instance except in Scotland, where Nate is 100% intruding on Rafe's legally owned land. That said in Scotland, you can also listen in on those same mercenaries you kill talking about assassinations, coups, overthrowing world powers, and a bunch of other heinous shit they have been happily involved in.
I would like to point out that the second game did introduce a better sneak mechanic, but it also liked to put reinforcements in front of the exit points, so sneaking through was rarely an option. I remember trying to sneak through shortly after the train crash segment only to be shot in the back as two heavy shotgun guys spawned while i was trying to leave the area. Taught me that it's just best to leave no survivors.
Oh man, all four main games are fantastic. The first one is probably the "worst" since the series really found its footing with 2, which has some of the best pacing in any game out there. Lost Legacy is definitely worth playing too!
Bro Indiana Jones kill count is as big as the population of a village yet everyone still accept him as a chill guy, but when it comes to Nathan Drake everyone suddenly turn their faces
He is kinda like classic Lara Croft just going around killing people with a smile on their face and just returning home without consequences I mean sure those guys are the "Bad Guys" still they just do their job maybe they got a family to feed too not that he cares
The thing about Lara Croft is that she was ligitimetly portrayed as a psychopath. The game embraced its 'badass and action for the sake of it' and that is what's make it good, the thing that bother me is how Nathan refuses to murder Lazarevic, Nadine and Race while he had 0 problems committing mass murder on soldiers or mercenaries that were just doing their job.
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 Yeah that is a issue I often see in games and movies these days you can't bring yourself to kill the big bad like the emperor in star wars but all those who work under them yeah sure slaughter them makes no difference if they have no names Proably the same mindset Dictator's use now where I think about it yeah Lara Croft is a Dictator maybe I should become the next MatPat instead
Yes it I'd talked about. In the second game when drake is arguing with the main antagonist it get brought up. However drake is only killing people who are trying to kill him which makes it self defense instead of murder
@12:50 missed opportunity to allow Guerrero to tell Nate they're (him and Nate) not so much different then even asks Mate how many people he's killed just that day alone.
A small detail that many overlooked is that Talbot's briefcase full of cash was more than likely genuine. With Marlowe's seemingly bottomless budget, a briefcase full of cash would be a drop of water in the ocean. Sully rejecting the cash was merely a bluff.
@@internetguy7319Drake is a thief but he cares about discovering the history. All the bad guys he killed only cared about making themselves more powerful.
@@petermj1098Lazarevic literally wanted to be Hitler 2.0 with the power found in Shambala. Drake HAD to stop him. Lazarevic was a ruthless war criminal who was hunted by the government and barely escaped and doesn't hesitate to murder Innocents, notably Jeff, who was already wounded and posed no threat.
Well, to be fair... He didn't start aout trying to be a hero in the first place and there were many instances where he didn't want to be a hero or villain - he just wanted to live a normal life. He only became a hero against his better judgement at times. His main course of action was treasure that people wanted to kill him over and to stop them from possibly bringing the world to an end, they had to be killed. Might be the worse good guy in some people's eyes, but he's a good guy nonetheless. Besides, if he doesn't have to kill, he won't. Like back at the museum when he didn't want to kill those "innocent museum security guards" as he called them. Either way, him being able to kill entire armies mostly by himself is a pretty impressive feat cause most times it's 1 million vs 1 the numbers usually win. Not with Nathan. Nathan is the legit one-man army with better climbing and jumping skills than Mario. Almost like Batman who also has a lot of kills that no one really talks about.
Arthur Morgan is a good man. He does bad things but his good acts far out way his bad acts and even if they didn’t the amount of good or bad deeds tallied up doesn’t determine whether your a good person or not
I’m only 1:46 in but Nate’s Mother sure she dies of an “illness” but I hope it’s mentioned what actually happened to her because it’s super important to Nate’s upbringing. It shows him there’s a reason to fight and never give up.
He’s flawed but he is a good man. That’s what I love about his character. At least he isn’t apathetic about it. He also doesn’t kill innocents so that’s good
I understand the point of view portrayed in your video but I’d like to remind you that Nathan has indeed ended many lives in the series but under the circumstances he is not a murderer because most of the time the people he kills shoot first and aren’t necessarily good people from Pirates, to Russians serving a Tyrant to everyone else he kills, most of the time Nathan is trying to stop these artifacts and ancient civilizations from getting in the wrong hands, he may take it for himself but in Uncharted 2 he stops lazaravich from getting the power of the chintomani stone
There's a big difference between killing and murdering. He's definitely a killer, but murderer, no. Murder is defined by killing unlawfully. Everyone he killed was literally in self defense.
Indiana Jones at least has the excuse that he's killing nazis, mad cultists or things like that most people Nathan kills are just trying to get paid ;-;
When do you think we'll get the next Uncharted?
I never played that Nathan drake games I would try it once.
4-5 years
Never
Allenna said NO BEEEATCH
Reply 5, isn't the series over? How can there be another uncharted game?
Mass murderer? No
Mass Self defence court case? Yes indeed
agreed
I think the idea isn’t that he’s killing innocent people (he kills criminals and killer mercenaries only), but that all he does is kill people by wading into THEIR territory and getting himself into situations that leads to him gunning people down.
I mean, he is a treasure hunter, so it’s inevitable, but he does kill a lot of people, even if all of them are bad dudes who aren’t there due to good vibes and good will.
@@TemmieContingenC He is no different to them. The developers try to paint him as better by comparison but neither is good.
@@MaximumPayine that’s what I tried to say as well. He gets himself into these situations and kills people, even if they are also mercenaries and bandits or criminals in general. H
@@TemmieContingenC ... Uh, how often does bro actually go into anyone's territory? Is the park on the turn of the block yours because all your boys set themselves up there? Who the fuck wouldn't shoot you in the face if you pulled a gun on someone for "stepping on your turf", the park no one can lay claim to?
Say what you will but Nathan drake probally has the strongest grip strengh in THE WORLD
Bros grip strength is equivalent to the bite strength of a pit bull
@@KingDeschainno a jaguar
Yeah even as a 25+ years judoka and high level rock climber, I am like wtf haha
😦🥵💦
Assassins grip almost
Nathan Drake by himself killed nearly as many people as the 9/11 attacks
I know for a fact the mercenary business in the Uncharted Universe breathed a huge sigh of relief when they realized Nate was no longer treasure hunting
There is no way anybody who knows of him would willingly take a job knowing he would be involved.
lol are people still fixating on 9/11
let it go man.
@@D88nielits just a comparison
@@D88niel The victim complex is strong. Just like how lsraeIis keep crying about the holokaust, lol.
The merc community rejoiced.
Nathan Drake canonically has insane luck. Every time he’s shot the bullets miss, even point blank. And the only time he dies in game is when the first bullet hits him.
I actually think that's really fun. Not many characters in stories are acknowledged to be crazy lucky when they survive stupidly dangerous situations.
That’s why the red laser bullets are a 1 shot it’s because they’re the accurate ones
If you watch in slow mo every once in a while, they will graze him. Generally speaking, though, they zip like a hair past him. It's a really fun detail because you can actually see it in game. As far as we see in the series, he only ever gets a proper body shot once by Flynn on the train.
"Nathan Drake is a mass murderer"
Literally every Far Cry protagonist ever: Hold my beer...
And the guys always attack him first literally... Its like calling Kirby a mass murder
Well in far cry 3 they actually acknowledge this the main character becomes a psycho
@@thatguy-lo3cnFar Cry 2 also acknowledges this, but less with a focus on the killings, and more the contracts accepted surrounding all the murder.
Walker from Spec Ops the line
"Hold my white phosphorus"
most far cry games acknowledge that fact, thats why most of the protags doesnt really get a good ending
My man can kill nearly 3 thousand people but can’t beat some random lady half his weight with some combat training
Nadine is rage incarnate tho
@@KingDeschain Big deal so was Lazarević.
@@colindowden2182lazarevic was also secretly Charlie Cutter.
TBF, he literally did just get shipwrecked, hadn't eaten, and had been in gun fights the whole day. Also, Nadine was thinner and quicker, so they were never able to touch her.
@@dbzking02in 3 Nathan walked through the Rub Al Khali desert without food and water for days suffering from heat stroke during the day and freezing during night and in the same level he can kill a fully grown man with his bare hands, The shipwreck should have been a minor inconvenience in comparison
ignoring the movie is as it should be, it's not a bad movie but picking spiderman and mark just didn't fit
Mark looks a lot more like Nathan than Tom
But even still they could’ve done the dude who plays the rookie,
@@Mike0405HNate Fillion. He actually made a fan film that’s really good too. I think. The movie is a good adventure movie and I think the casting is fine, under any other name than uncharted. Good movie, bad uncharted movie
.....bruh the movie completly changes how story of the third game. quit standing up for terrible movies
@@twilightresonance1789 yeah I'd completely ignore it as cannon
Tom holland is so overrated
This is like if Dead Meat counted kills in video games instead of movies.
Best possible compliment I can receive 😅
@@KingDeschain You're welcome.
I hope someday dead meat should do more video game killcounts in the future becuase its pretty boring if its just movies in the horror genre they are tv series and comics that he only did one
@@Micosanmiguel next Friday I think is res evil
I'm pretty sure they stick to horror movies cuz James likes horror. I enjoyed his videos all these years. There are other UA-cam channels that count kills too. They just aren't as popular
I think I just realised, or maybe came to a headcanon, but I think the reason Nate so easily believes the bullshit his bro comes up with about the drug lord is only because he himself lived a fucking insane life and was just like “ah yeah sounds reasonable, I’ve done crazier”
That's a great point. All he had to do was google the guy and he'd get his answer, but why question it?
@@KingDeschain that's a line Nate says in the mission marooned he says something like all I had to to was google him
@@KingDeschainHe did say that “He should’ve done research” near the end of the game
“Nate that sounds bullshit your brother is lying”
“Silly we fought zombies”
“Well yea that can’t be argued”
In every game he was always shot at first, it's all self defense
Uncharted 4 is sort of an exception to this
True 4 kinda messed everything up 🫢@@tvhead7074
So? He killed literally hundreds of people, self defense or not i thought he was a treasure hunter
@Ligmaballin I mean in story of 123 it's about saving someone from getting killed other stuff are optional for game😅😂
@@Ligmaballinhundreds of people who were all trying to do the same to him
"You think I am a monster, but you're no different from me, Drake. How many men have you killed? How many...just today?
That's it boy! No compassion, no mercy!"
Lazaravic to Drake(Uncharted 2)
That quote definitely stuck out when playing these games again
Yeah Lazaravic sorta had a point lmao
Lazaravic and his men did try to kill Drake so
"I don't know, how many loafs of bread have you eaten?"
I’m still annoyed how he pointed out very clearly how Drake is a remorseless killer who has a body count that would make warlords blush but the game sidesteps it and never addresses it cause it would break the persona they want for Drake as a charming funny guy.
He might be a mass murderer. But does that make him lose the title of best videogame character ever? No. He's still THE GOAT
(great video btw)
I always like to believe what happens in gameplay is like Nate’s subjective POV as a badass hero taking down bad guys, when what actually happens is a lot less bloodshed and a lot more running and screaming “OH CRAP”
Or this is nates subjective pov as a badass hero and what actually happens is a lot more bloodshed and a lot more mercenaries trying to run or surrender
In the first game you stay in an island for some hours and the drug dealer in charge of the mercenaries go "my men are dying! Everyone is scared shitlless thet cant even piss" and Nate's there like "lmfao its me"
To be fair, he only takes the lives of those who wish to take his life too.
Also security guards, though we dont know if theyre the "shoot on sight" kinda guys.
Yeah, in all fairness, the enemies Drake fights don't hesitate to kill him. He frequently gets put into a "him-or-me" situation where he can't negotiate with them. He initially tried to negotiate with Rafe because he, Nathan and Sam were allies before Rafe was consumed by jealousy. He didn't want to kill Rafe at all and wanted all three of them to leave Avery's ship alive.
Uncharted as a series takes cues from action-adventure serials where swashbuckling heroes take down bad guys while exploring ancient ruins and finding treasure, especially Indiana Jones. Indy has killed people for lesser reasons than Drake has and no one mentions how heartless Indy can be but everyone calls Drake a murderer. It makes no sense.
Nate didn't kill a single security guard though. The one he threw over the edge of the roof landed in the water, and you can see the guard swimming away.
@yashjoseph3544
These people ain't the best and brightest
Not a mass murderer, but definitely a massive killer.
Last I checked, most of them weren’t in the business of talking things out.
I mean to be fair they are trying to kill him but like you said its weird that they dont talk about it lol
It's mentioned once at the end of two, the villain in his evil rant at the end calls out how nate isn't any better "how many men have you killed, just today?" And...thats about it
More so the player is killing everyone. Drake can't control what you make him do lol
It comes down to ludonarrative dissonance and the suspension of disbelief.
Is killing 10 people alot?
In a shooter game: not even close.
In real life: absolutely and I think most normal people would be traumatised.
@@KingSlayer_. Fair enough 😂
I mean in Uncharted 4 he really tried talking Rafe out of violence but yet he ignores him
i used to like to think he canonnically just knock people out but then nadine talks about how her mercenary has been wiped out in the end of uncharted 4
What did you think he didn’t when he shot them?
*when you have a nice, cozy job as a security guard for a snobby, treasure hunting rich guy but hear that there is an intruder around named Nathan Drake.* 💀
Sorry rafe I gotta go back to my family with the milk
He doesn't kill without a reason, it's mostly just self defence.
There is one scene in A Thief's End, where Sam has Nadine at gunpoint, but Nate saves her and gives up the gun to Rafe, risking his own life
At this point I'm convinced that uncharted takes place in a universe where murder is legal
Yeah, gotta watch out for those jungle police, they hate it when you kill mercenaries and pirates
Nathan Drake is a perfect example of just because someone's the main character, doesn't mean their a good person.
Dude there are literally thousands of main characters who are bad people, Nate is one of the kindest "bad guys" out there.
That's not a good example of that
Caim and NieR from Drakengard and NieR send they regards.
Kratos has entered the chat.
@Kinos141 Kratos isn't a person
To be fair, I don’t think Nate’s usually in it to be a “hero.” It’s almost always him starting off like, “Oh here’s an opportunity to find a treasure and make some money,” and then he finds out bad people are after it while searching for it and is like, “Well I guess I better stop them since I’m already here.”
in uncharted 2 Lazarević does mention about how drake is nearly as bad as him and asks how many of his men he had killed that day alone
Technically you can say that about every video game character.
no arthur morgan is a killer but he aware of what he does so does jason brody in far cry 3 everybody treat him like a monster a lot of mass murderer in a video games aware of their action or it just being non canon but nathan canonically kill all those people
@@mixel8 Arthur Morgan is insanely romanticized for a 1800s outlaw. Micah is the only realistic character
The same actor who plays as Nathan Drake also plays as Captain Walker. Theres probably a connection...
oh god
Do you feel like a hero yet?
One who is broken by the circumstances, and one who broke the circumstances
Captain Martin Walker is what Nathan Drake would've become if he lacked a moral compass.
Here’s one.
Alex Mason: The ruthless sleeper agent
I completed Red Dead Redemption 2 with 30 Thousand Kills under my belt. Alex mason ain't got Sh*t on me! 😏 💯
@@wingman4759Until you realise bro was the whole reason a city with a lot of people was infected in the first place, logically he has the high ground 😏
@@BuryTheLight-tds What city was infected? 🤔
Where was he on November 22 1963
Oh come on, it was self defence. They were trying to kill him.
Clicked on the video to see how many people Nathan killed and got a quick retelling of the entire story of the series giving me good memories. Pretty cool!
Cant imagine how he feels after being called an evil man because he killed a bunch of murderous mercs in self defence
What ya’ll don’t get is you can’t take Nathan Drakes body count front the game 100% literal cause it’s LITERALLY impossible for a single man to kill that many people.
The enemy count is inflated for gameplay purposes. Yes he kills quite a few, the game acknowledges is, but not HUNDREDS upon HUNDREDS per adventure
But where's the fun in that?!
Ok so he kills invisible people now
I mean 9 times out of 10 the enemies are trying to shoot him first so...
His kill count is slightly inflated for gameplay purposes as proved by the ludo-narrative dissonance trophy in 4, but it probably is a few hundred as addressed in 2.
Duh of course it isn't possible that's why it's a video game, the enemy count being "inflated" for gameplay purposes wouldn't make sense story wise
This is hilarious and true, always loved the series. Great video
Me, an intellectual: Mass Self-defense.
Considering most people have at least 5 people that care about them deeply and love them that’s over 14k people affected by the deaths of the people Nate has killed
People would hire assassins to take him down for sure
In just 12 years he killed 2808 people, an absolute psycho. If he didn't retire from these type of adventures at age 40, he would maybe kill over 5000 people and he only had his first confirmed kill at age 28 or so
His first kill was in Colombia at the age of 15 when he pushed that Marlow's agent off the roof in the Uncharted 3 flashback
@@Dannymart_88445 but that’s not confirmed tho because he couldn’t survive.
Dude everyone's trying to kill him. What do you expect him to do? Just let them?
bro majority of "heroes" murdered bajilions of enemies in their stories
it's either slow story with little to no action or constant action and mountain of bodies
Imagine Uncharted with zero enemies and just climbing obstacles lmao
@@KingDeschain Damn, even Mirror's Edge would of had more action lol
Nit rlly, in a way out vincent doesn't kill any cops yet his gameplay is great
You're right, he probably should have just not shot back at all the armed mercenaries, pirates and armies shooting at him. Would have been a pretty short 1st and only game in the series though haha ;)
42:20 fun fact it's actually possible to do this part entirely stealth due to the silencer you are given (as long as a corpse isn't spotted) which doesn't trigger the enemy reinforcement to come, bringing the total kills slightly down!
I like the detail that Nate doesn’t kill any of the museum guards on Uncharted 2 which kind of leads me to believe he has some sort of moral compass, even though he definitely has a little cognitive dissonance…
Yeah, he does only kill people who are in the same game as him (apathetic mercenaries and criminals). It’s just the fact that he gets into these situations
How could you count killing people that are objectively trying to kill you as murder?
I was literally thinking about this during the Last of Us 2 when it came out. People were like Joel is such a bad person no shit it's a apocalypse. Towards the end he began to change and he was still liked in his own regards. Rick and Lee from the Walking dead lasted about a couple of months before they started to become ruthless and brutal too. Lara Croft is a killer too. Literally everybody in any video game is a killer.
All these characters are huge POS in the real world 😅
But it's survival self-defense @@KingDeschain
We have come full circle. I present to you: Undertale.
lara is a Mass Murderess.
@@KingDeschainThat's why It's a video game, this video was pointless
Nah, this is underrated as hell
👊 Thank you!
In that case, maybe do a Master Chief video too, bro’s probably killed whole planets
Master Chief would be insane. Several books I'd have to read too lol
Well he was literally made to kill
@@xptaco2298 still would make a good video though
Lazarevic described him best:
"You think you are different from me Drake? How many people have you killed? How many, just today?"
With the slight difference that Lazarevic kills everyone in cold blood, nate doesn't
He put his future wife's life at risk and seemingly didn't care or made light of it.
dude killed so many people and still remained broke
Dude has a kink for destroying treasure lmao
He got some of the treasure in 4 which helped him buy the scrap company and the beach house?? Depending on the gold they had with them, they had to been worth millions if one even believed they were from Henry Avery's treasure pile.
He got some treasure at the end of uncharted three and uncharted 4
i've heard more uncharted death sound effects in this video than in a brutal playthrough
The games acknowledge that Nathan Drake is a terrible person. Most famously in the second game when the villain straight up asks him how many people he killed just that day. Also you could argue him being an anti hero due to actually doing things for the good of the world.
The amount of times I died on the the hardest difficulty it is about even.
😂 you have more patience than me
Literally unplayable. It's so clearly untested.
Good god he is more of a serial killer than Kevin McAllister
I never realized until just now, but Nate really does only kill dudes who are actively out to kill him first. It really is just a GIGANTIC self-defense case in every instance except in Scotland, where Nate is 100% intruding on Rafe's legally owned land. That said in Scotland, you can also listen in on those same mercenaries you kill talking about assassinations, coups, overthrowing world powers, and a bunch of other heinous shit they have been happily involved in.
This guy is a menace. I’m sure his kill count rivals that of a World War. And he’s still so smug after all of that. Clearly a psychopath.
I would like to point out that the second game did introduce a better sneak mechanic, but it also liked to put reinforcements in front of the exit points, so sneaking through was rarely an option. I remember trying to sneak through shortly after the train crash segment only to be shot in the back as two heavy shotgun guys spawned while i was trying to leave the area. Taught me that it's just best to leave no survivors.
Nathan drake disrespect will not be tolerated
At least, the people he killed had guns in their hands, making it one mass self-defense case. But, it wouldn't have had happened if he just went home.
This is awesome, Nathan Drake is a cool video game character, the only game I played so far was the 4th game, but the others sound interesting
Oh man, all four main games are fantastic. The first one is probably the "worst" since the series really found its footing with 2, which has some of the best pacing in any game out there. Lost Legacy is definitely worth playing too!
Play 1-3. 1 is kinda dated but 2 and 3 are amazing
@@Lifetime10154you gotta play 4 man. I my opinion even better than 2.
@@ThatDude808 I have already played 4. I don’t like the slower gameplay and the beginning of it. It’s great though. 2 is better personally for me
@@Lifetime10154 fair argument i can understand that. Its funny how i instead really like the beginning 🤣
Bro Indiana Jones kill count is as big as the population of a village yet everyone still accept him as a chill guy, but when it comes to Nathan Drake everyone suddenly turn their faces
Nathan Drake is just Jason Brody but the killing never got to him
He is kinda like classic Lara Croft just going around killing people with a smile on their face and just returning home without consequences I mean sure those guys are the "Bad Guys" still they just do their job maybe they got a family to feed too not that he cares
The thing about Lara Croft is that she was ligitimetly portrayed as a psychopath.
The game embraced its 'badass and action for the sake of it' and that is what's make it good, the thing that bother me is how Nathan refuses to murder Lazarevic, Nadine and Race while he had 0 problems committing mass murder on soldiers or mercenaries that were just doing their job.
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 Yeah that is a issue I often see in games and movies these days you can't bring yourself to kill the big bad like the emperor in star wars but all those who work under them yeah sure slaughter them makes no difference if they have no names Proably the same mindset Dictator's use now where I think about it yeah Lara Croft is a Dictator maybe I should become the next MatPat instead
Yes it I'd talked about. In the second game when drake is arguing with the main antagonist it get brought up. However drake is only killing people who are trying to kill him which makes it self defense instead of murder
Nathan drake has got to be the most prolific serial killer in history
@12:50 missed opportunity to allow Guerrero to tell Nate they're (him and Nate) not so much different then even asks Mate how many people he's killed just that day alone.
To quote Caddicarus about Uncharted:
"It's basically like Indiana Jones BUT WITH MORE MURDER."
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A small detail that many overlooked is that Talbot's briefcase full of cash was more than likely genuine. With Marlowe's seemingly bottomless budget, a briefcase full of cash would be a drop of water in the ocean. Sully rejecting the cash was merely a bluff.
He is just defending himself
It's not self defense because Drake could literally walk away instead of purposefully putting himself in a situation where he has to kill.
@@lucasgrey9794 if he walk away they just going to kill him
no one forced drake to go after treasure and get in the way of factions with weapons
@@internetguy7319Drake is a thief but he cares about discovering the history. All the bad guys he killed only cared about making themselves more powerful.
@@petermj1098Lazarevic literally wanted to be Hitler 2.0 with the power found in Shambala. Drake HAD to stop him. Lazarevic was a ruthless war criminal who was hunted by the government and barely escaped and doesn't hesitate to murder Innocents, notably Jeff, who was already wounded and posed no threat.
Nathan Drake proves that Ludonarrative dissonance should be part of the Geneva Convention.
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@jesustyronechrist2330 no such thing as that. If you can kill during gameplay you kill canonically, end of
Well, to be fair... He didn't start aout trying to be a hero in the first place and there were many instances where he didn't want to be a hero or villain - he just wanted to live a normal life. He only became a hero against his better judgement at times. His main course of action was treasure that people wanted to kill him over and to stop them from possibly bringing the world to an end, they had to be killed. Might be the worse good guy in some people's eyes, but he's a good guy nonetheless. Besides, if he doesn't have to kill, he won't. Like back at the museum when he didn't want to kill those "innocent museum security guards" as he called them. Either way, him being able to kill entire armies mostly by himself is a pretty impressive feat cause most times it's 1 million vs 1 the numbers usually win. Not with Nathan. Nathan is the legit one-man army with better climbing and jumping skills than Mario. Almost like Batman who also has a lot of kills that no one really talks about.
People calling him a mass murderer while they call arthur morgan a good man is just hilarious
Arthur Morgan is most definitely not a good person lol only once he's faced with his death does he take steps to improve the lives of others
Arthur Morgan is a good man. He does bad things but his good acts far out way his bad acts and even if they didn’t the amount of good or bad deeds tallied up doesn’t determine whether your a good person or not
@XtraOrdinar-yhe’s not a good man lol
@@strongcapybara5646 how is saving literally hundreds of people make you a bad man, is it because he killed some o’driscolls or Pinkertons?
@XtraOrdinar-y bro stop glazing a literal criminal and killer. Arthur Morgan is a POC
Man the Uncharted 4 ost is so good
when you ask how many men have you killed and realize uncharted is a horror game.
@@tHeForger1145 the first one kind of is. Especially the part in the bunker with the zombies
And then at the end of 4 he kind of becomes those companies he was killing in the previous games
How so?
@@susantherestorer because he starts a treasure salvaging company with Elena
Uncharted 4 should be a movie
Just remember…there’s a PlayStation trophy for killing 1000 people in Uncharted 4.
I’m only 1:46 in but Nate’s Mother sure she dies of an “illness” but I hope it’s mentioned what actually happened to her because it’s super important to Nate’s upbringing. It shows him there’s a reason to fight and never give up.
she committed suicide
He’s flawed but he is a good man. That’s what I love about his character. At least he isn’t apathetic about it. He also doesn’t kill innocents so that’s good
24:27 Holy shit, for years I thought Nate killed that security guard.
I need that segment from Metal Gear Solid 3 where you have to confront the spirits of all the lives you’ve taken but for Nathan.
That would be wild 😂
A total of 2,808 families were destroyed
@LucidNightmarez boo hoo. If these guys cared about their family they shouldn't have become mercenaries
@Dannymart_88445 You don't know the difference between a joke, and a serious comment. Seriously.
9:12 he says 2 kills but on the right hand corner it says that he survived 15 kills without dying
That game opens with a flash forward so there's a few kills that happen before it jumps back
Oh ok still a great video though
As is lara croft, ellie, joel, etc.
they keep murdering people every game.
Yeah, but it came back to bite Joel in the butt, didn't it?
That tone in the background.. Makes it hard to sleep listening to the story. Haha
2:30 that right there was a violation 😂
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0:00 i thought they were doing something else for a second
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Dude you are a g, that Kadarius Toney line at 16:48 was so unexpected XD
fr i was dying lmfao
Not murder, it's self defense
By murdering…
Keep tellin yourself that
@@lanceelopezz223 so you mean telling myself the truth? Ok!
@@deanjames108a lot of the fire fights are initiated by the enemies so yea sometimes it would be self defense
@@deanjames108 murder is premeditated, not self defense.
I like to think that Nate didn't miss the adventure in the 4th game but the murders
Nate just has that thirst in him
I remember seeing this guy on all the covers for the ps4 boxes when my dad went out to buy it, Good times.
So is Mario, Link, and every video game protagonist ever.
"Most ancient artefact if all" lmfaoo
I know it wasn’t the main focus of the game, but for Nate to not have some sort of PTSD regardless of most of his kills from self defense is crazy.
Dude was so happy to tell his daughter about their crazy adventures too lol
1:57 nice South Park reference
The freaking aaaaaaaaah sound bite lol
It’s no wonder that Nate was regarded as a fucking legend. 😂😂
I understand the point of view portrayed in your video but I’d like to remind you that Nathan has indeed ended many lives in the series but under the circumstances he is not a murderer because most of the time the people he kills shoot first and aren’t necessarily good people from Pirates, to Russians serving a Tyrant to everyone else he kills, most of the time Nathan is trying to stop these artifacts and ancient civilizations from getting in the wrong hands, he may take it for himself but in Uncharted 2 he stops lazaravich from getting the power of the chintomani stone
I've never thought of him as a good guy. At best he's an anti hero
There's a big difference between killing and murdering. He's definitely a killer, but murderer, no. Murder is defined by killing unlawfully. Everyone he killed was literally in self defense.
Luck is his superpower
fun fact: there are 2 chapters in Uncharted 4 when you can optionally kill enemies
which one is that
Indiana Jones at least has the excuse that he's killing nazis, mad cultists or things like that
most people Nathan kills are just trying to get paid ;-;