I do enjoy on-board wet laps as there’s an added element which alters the run of the mill ‘balls out’ brake late thrash about ! The new tarmac has to be a great enhancement in safety too. Lovely car too.
I never loved Porsches. Sure, I liked the Carrera GT and 918 Spyder just fine, but I could never get behind the 911, just not my cup of tea. But there's something about the Cayman-platform that really hits the spot for some reason! It's more traditional exotic looking, great shape, the head and rear lights are gorgeous and it's still a Porsche, so it drives like a maniac! I'd so want one of those Boxster Spyders which is pretty much a GT4 that you can take the roof off! That's the absolute dream!
Always appreciate sharing of laps and it is especially interesting to see how those tires and the 718 performs in the wet. Is that a normal thing for the brakes to make the noise in the wet conditions? Giving respect to the previous six cylinder in previous models, I dig the noises of the 718's turbo 4.
What a amasing trackday. Expensive cars been overtaken by a BMW, but nobody can keep up with the Apex drivers. And they know it. Wow a cool video. Mischa you are a King 👑 Who was driving the BMW
Misha, could you comment in a video about the wet cornering technique of he used of multiple turning and correcting or was just hard to find the wet line. tks as always for the fun content.
@@sebastianvittel74 thanks for the response sebastian, It just seemed to be unique technique. Normally that much wheel adjustments would be indicative of someone who is not sure of the turn in point to hit the apex.
Richard Murray, Jr. if going fast you don’t nee to do it, it was a pedagogic lap to show what happen when the grip limit arrive, to show that nothing bad happen VS early throttle gaz who can makes you in trouble. Rain driving must be done with understeer for the feeling
@Richard Murray, Jr.: The corrections you see are correcting understeer. I think that was the point. Also, you do not want heavy lateral g-forces on the dry line, which is the reason for wide entry and staying off the dry-line apex. Rubber builds up on the areas where cars normally have heavy lateral g’s during dry conditions, and those areas become extra slick when wet-hence staying off them in the rain by taking a wide line and favoring understeer.
Very cool car. I missed his explanation for the extra steering inputs going through the corners. Trying to kill the understeer and to get the tyres to bite maybe.
Tdl Australia it is just to show the grip limit on the video, on a fast lap you know that limit so don’t need to exagerate, thisbis a pedagogic video i must say, where security is a must
I have only done 3 laps in the wet in a clio but never in wet my RWD cars. May i ask why did Mr Vittel wiggle his steering wheel when he turn into corners? Is it to do with finding grip in the wet? Cheers in advance and sorry for asking an experienced drivers like yourself such a stupid question!
Yes, he’s favoring understeer, and testing the grip limit of the front tires (the slip angle). You can correct understeer by straightening the wheel and/or letting off the throttle.
Ja, zo kan het ook, een extra auto om je snelle speeltje te sparen. Hij is niet de enige, Dr. C. heeft al 3 verschillende BMW's voor iedere gelegenheid en zo zullen er wel meer rijders zijn.
Fantastic Video, I love Sebastian Vittel's lap, but why on the wet he is doing big movement on the steering wheel ? Does he want to show the understeer ?
On a less powerfull car you can go more easy and sooner on the gaz vs a powerfull car, so that’s mean that you have more control and more pleasure Anyway i will love to try the gt2 on the wet with ps4 s tire😍
@@MarcnessPower I gotta say, I revise my opinion. My friend has bought a 718 Boxster GTS and it absolutely ROCKS! He’s got an aftermarket exhaust though and it sound amazing. Additionally, it’s quite a bit faster than the older Boxster and more fuel efficient but, who cares about that?! 🤣😂
![718 Boxster GTS 4.0 Nürburgring Touristenfahrten 12.06.2023 [BAD AUDIO]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/y_tm_nkBwQM/mqdefault.jpg)
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Nice to „see“ Sebastian here. I like his onboard videos!
Another great onboard. Misha you are posting truly fantastic content.
I do enjoy on-board wet laps as there’s an added element which alters the run of the mill ‘balls out’
brake late thrash about !
The new tarmac has to be a great enhancement in safety too.
Lovely car too.
I never loved Porsches. Sure, I liked the Carrera GT and 918 Spyder just fine, but I could never get behind the 911, just not my cup of tea.
But there's something about the Cayman-platform that really hits the spot for some reason! It's more traditional exotic looking, great shape, the head and rear lights are gorgeous and it's still a Porsche, so it drives like a maniac! I'd so want one of those Boxster Spyders which is pretty much a GT4 that you can take the roof off! That's the absolute dream!
I was at the ring this day for the evening tourist session. This guy absolutely FLEW past me and looked like he wasn’t even trying
Liam Piddock i hope i did not scare you 😅
Car sounds amazing IMO
Good evening Misha and Seb thanks for the onboard wet lap
Porsche content, good vidéo.
I think Apex needs a mascot.....a dog named Apex......anyone else agree.
Type of Dog? German Shepard gets my vote.
@@TheGamer-ux2lr Corgi!
@@TheGamer-ux2lrAlabai would be nice, perfectly fit on passenger seat))
A chihuahua or racoon
german shephard because they are on germany!
Great to see some 718 GTS love... People who hate, are sound purists, and don't care about outright performance... Turbo-Lag? More like NA-Lag...
Empty track, apart from a traffic jam of GTR's. XD
Nice to see how to drive the wet line
Misha "How you like the car in general"
Seb "I Love it!"
A punch in the face for all those whinning haters
That man is a wet line genius.
He learns from the best ;)
I have a 2018 718 Cayman GTS and I absolutely love it. So cool to see it on the 'Ring!
I have watched so many hours of videos around this track I think I know it by heart now.
Cheers
Misha are you alright? You forgot the foofshot twice now.
He'll get a strike if he uploads a foofshot.
Always appreciate sharing of laps and it is especially interesting to see how those tires and the 718 performs in the wet. Is that a normal thing for the brakes to make the noise in the wet conditions? Giving respect to the previous six cylinder in previous models, I dig the noises of the 718's turbo 4.
What a amasing trackday.
Expensive cars been overtaken by a BMW, but nobody can keep up with the Apex drivers. And they know it.
Wow a cool video. Mischa you are a King 👑
Who was driving the BMW
Very enjoyable lap that one. Thanks! :)
How tall Sebastian is? It looks like there is no room for his legs at all ;)
Tomasz Paluch iam 190cm
Awesome Misha, always good to see Sebastian on the track!
Would be super cool to see his reaction in some of APEX's high end cars too...
Does it sound good to anyone else? I'm enjoying the exhaust note
I love Sebastien Vettel. My favorite F1 driver.
Another informative and interesting wet lap.
Good video
Good comment
0/10 No food shot, unsubscribed.
Started pro racing... eating less! :) I say no more food shots till end of season, then we get fat during winter just like true slavs. :)))
Misha, could you comment in a video about the wet cornering technique of he used of multiple turning and correcting or was just hard to find the wet line. tks as always for the fun content.
Most important is wide entry and minimum wheel steering angle+ gently on throttle
@@sebastianvittel74 thanks for the response sebastian, It just seemed to be unique technique. Normally that much wheel adjustments would be indicative of someone who is not sure of the turn in point to hit the apex.
Richard Murray, Jr. if going fast you don’t nee to do it, it was a pedagogic lap to show what happen when the grip limit arrive, to show that nothing bad happen VS early throttle gaz who can makes you in trouble.
Rain driving must be done with understeer for the feeling
@@sebastianvittel74 Thanks again Sebastian. Must of missed that in the video. Beautiful car.
@Richard Murray, Jr.: The corrections you see are correcting understeer. I think that was the point. Also, you do not want heavy lateral g-forces on the dry line, which is the reason for wide entry and staying off the dry-line apex. Rubber builds up on the areas where cars normally have heavy lateral g’s during dry conditions, and those areas become extra slick when wet-hence staying off them in the rain by taking a wide line and favoring understeer.
Very nice onboard
Very cool car. I missed his explanation for the extra steering inputs going through the corners. Trying to kill the understeer and to get the tyres to bite maybe.
Tdl Australia it is just to show the grip limit on the video, on a fast lap you know that limit so don’t need to exagerate, thisbis a pedagogic video i must say, where security is a must
What a good set of black rounds can do, wow
Can you please tell me more about the dash mounted phone holder? Manufacturer?
Lindley Ruddick amazon, spider iphone older at 3€
Manual gearbox would have been icing on the cake
Manual gearbox is so much fun on the street and back roads.. On the track? The PDK rules..
I have only done 3 laps in the wet in a clio but never in wet my RWD cars. May i ask why did Mr Vittel wiggle his steering wheel when he turn into corners? Is it to do with finding grip in the wet? Cheers in advance and sorry for asking an experienced drivers like yourself such a stupid question!
novarossi yes grip limit test
Yes, he’s favoring understeer, and testing the grip limit of the front tires (the slip angle). You can correct understeer by straightening the wheel and/or letting off the throttle.
@@sebastianvittel74 @981porsche Thank you for the Tip! I will be sure to try this in some wet trackdays before doing this at the ring in my car!
i tried to follow him on the skylimit events trackday... in the wet. no chance. Also no chance when it was dry later :D
Hello Misha, Hello Carmrades
Wearing Ps4rs today, hang on here we Go. It's a hard life but someone has to do it
Good shot
I have the cup 2... getting the 4s next time.
Hey Misha 👍 I was wondering if there a wet lap records ? What is the fastest wet lap you've seen ? Thanks for the video
Why not putting rain treatment like aquapel on those windshield, he wouldn’t need the wipers
Everyone's favorite Almost Ferrari Factory Driver
Nice vlog Misha!
So it is cheaper to buy a cayman, mr spec it, and lap it than lapping the gt2rs??
And with cheaper i mean less expensive...
There's 240k€ difference in base price, it's obviously cheaper.
@@sergialadid Cheaper than maintaining the GT2 RS for a few more Laps? I dont think so
Best exemple is the brake
One front disc PCCB on gt2 rs is 6000€, on the cayman 180€ 🤣
Gt2rs goes for half a million euros.. the cayman gts 70k euros
sebastian vittel i totally see the point why so many people go for steel disc brakes instead of the carbon ceramics. Or go for a second car :)))
Ja, zo kan het ook, een extra auto om je snelle speeltje te sparen. Hij is niet de enige, Dr. C. heeft al 3 verschillende BMW's voor iedere gelegenheid en zo zullen er wel meer rijders zijn.
Is there a big difference between normal and ceramic brakes!? Thx!
Oh man what i would do to get one 😪😢😓😥😭
Top video 👍
Fantastic Video, I love Sebastian Vittel's lap, but why on the wet he is doing big movement on the steering wheel ? Does he want to show the understeer ?
Gaëtan Noygues yes grip test limit, understeer and little oversteer, that’s the way for driving on wet
@@sebastianvittel74 Ok thanks Sebastian 😁
Hi Seb, is it more risk control/risk limitation in the rain (using the 718 in stead of the powerfull GT2RS) or is it really about budgetcontrol :P
I mean it ends up being about cash in both examples. They're probably fairly close on grip levels in the wet, so not much point running the GT2RS.
On a less powerfull car you can go more easy and sooner on the gaz vs a powerfull car, so that’s mean that you have more control and more pleasure
Anyway i will love to try the gt2 on the wet with ps4 s tire😍
Carbon ceramic brakes?
He is Sebastian vittel?
Good drive in wet 👍
Do you rate the Michelin PS4 tyres I’ve been using ns2r’s but have been considering a change on my next set
Matt hall 1985 world best tire, REALLY
I wonder how does the 718 Cayman compare to the GT3 RS in terms of handling
Procha more balanced and easy control
@@sebastianvittel74 And is it faster in the tight turns than the GT3 RS ?
Anyone know what extension that is on the spoiler? (Didn’t know Manthey made spoilers now 😂)
Main Man Mike the spoiler extention is from TWL carbon, just design no performance mod
Great content as always but still can’t get over how bad the 718s sound in any form 😟
Zermatt YAWN!
I wasn't bothered by it personally. I heard some of them that made me just hate them, but not this time.
good evening
What's the colour of exterior? It looks mad!
David Luo grey quartz
what is with the huge turn in at times????
darkg35 grip limit test
What's the phone holder model/name?
Mikołaj Kaźmierczak amazon tap spider iphone support 👌🏻
Was checking the first idiot to complain about the sound 😂... this car sound great 👍🏽
Misha I lasted 3 mins then his brakes pissed me off . But I liked the video anyway
Why did they piss you off? It’s just how racing brakes are.
Again very slow..... NOT!
Nothing wrong with that sound to me.
Food shot
Seb is an idiot for NOT wearing a HANS (especially since he's fitted with posts) with full harnesses in the wet.
Gene O you are totally right👌🏻 that because the harness type manthey installed in the car is not Hans compatible.
They will change next 👌🏻
anyone knows what phone holder is Sebastian V. using?
I'll let him answer that
@@mgcharoudin thanks Misha :D, i've looked for it through the whole amazon and ebay, couldnt find it
Go on amazon and tap « spider iphone support » something between 3/5€ to buy😅
sebastian vittel thank you, enjoying your content very much.
Is this Cayman 718 GTS better than the Cayman GT4?
netmatrix75 more easy to drive, more torque, pdk and because 4cylinder positioned very low the balance is absolutely perfect
@@sebastianvittel74 Thanks for reply. I take that it is less track focused than the older Cayman GT4 and more accessible all round?
netmatrix75 a manthey racing cayman gts is WAYYYY more track focused than the standard gt4 😅
@@sebastianvittel74 👍
Yikes... Rain again..!!!
ANNNNNDDDDDDDDD...... BRAKE JOB
Why he is steering like this!!?
He is looking for grip because he wants to know when the car starts to plow over the front wheels
Good night😅
Good morning
Martin Chapman
Good morning😅
Hello comrade,
Porsche understeering like an Audi 😳
Squeaky brakes must be very annoying after a while no?
Not annoying at all
every porsche understeers in the begining of the corner if you dont go hard enough , its because there is no weight on the front axle
@Filly Sucker: He was favoring understeer because of the wet conditions. Also mid-engine cars tend to understeer anyway.
Sorry to say this but the newer Caymans have such a boring and uninspiring engine note. 😭
I think the car sounds good. I think the pre 718 Caymans have boring and uninspiring power curves
Misha "How you like the car in general"
Seb "I Love it!"
A punch in the face for all those whinning haters
@@MarcnessPower I gotta say, I revise my opinion. My friend has bought a 718 Boxster GTS and it absolutely ROCKS! He’s got an aftermarket exhaust though and it sound amazing. Additionally, it’s quite a bit faster than the older Boxster and more fuel efficient but, who cares about that?! 🤣😂