New Machine Day: Kearney & Trecker Model 3H Universal Horizontal Mill
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- This weekend, we moved a new machine into the shop - a Kearney & Trecker Model 3H Universal Horizontal Mill! A brief introduction to this new machine for the shop and comparing it to the old K&T 2H Plain that it replaced.
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We use pretty much solely 4H And 5H machines out in our shop. Plus a few Universals. Excellent machines, provided you take good care of them.
Great News! adding a big brother to your shop!
I now know what Keith looks like and acts like on Christmas Morning. Happy horizontal milling!
Late on in my Dad's life, he got a clamping kit as a Christmas present !
Hello, I watched some of your videos, I liked your workshop, I'm also gradually developing my Metalworking workshop. In Russia, there are more and more masters on UA-cam who restore old machines, and so am I. I also scrape with my hands. So far, I'm restoring old vises and my machines. Now I am preparing for the first difficult job of attaching a head from another machine to a horizontal milling machine.
Keith is tickled pink! I would be too. happy milling!
Lovely milling machine, definitely a work horse. Thanks for the knowledge Keith.
Hi Keith you often tend to buy machines bigger than you, haha. But your workshop is impressive.
Congrats on your upgrade
I really hope the mystery machine is a cotton candy maker, that would be pretty sweet!
Mystery machine ---- Horizontal Boring Machine...
A really, really big cotton candy machine!
its a movie popcorn machine i bet
I have a K&T 3H Universal also, haven't set it up and worked it yet. It's about the same vintage, and has the "WAR FINISH" in the casting. I'm sure looking forward to seeing you having yours up and running. Thanks for sharing the joy, and please keep the KT3HU vids coming!
Ahhhh! The smell of a new toy...
Nice machine Keith, other than the horizontal table pivot it seems exactly like my K2. They are really nice machines. That head drive gear looks small compared to mine.
Would be nice if it'll fit my 50taper 2H.
K&T made at least 3 vertical/universal heads for this machine. Unfortunately they didn't use the same 50 taper drive gear. My 2HL uses 40 taper with completely different universal head.
@@chuckinwyoming8526 yes the vert head uses 40 taper.
Beautiful milling machine built with precision back on th 40's.
Hope you have many happy hours on this. It's clear you are like a kid with a new toy. Enjoy !!
congrats Keith. great addition!
Nice Machine Keith.
I Really enjoyed the H3 video, it brings back a lot of good machine shop memories and funny things that happened then,...our shop had a UNIVERSAL HEAD... It was Huge and worked well. I'm Retired now, and miss the Work... there's Nothing like a Manual Machine to make You use your Brain to Create Something or to Repair a Broken Part.... CNC is Great for Fancy Smanchy PRODUCTION RUNS... but not satisfying like making a ONE-TIME Piece.. (what is so Fun about loading a blank Billet in a machine time after time...closing the doors and pressing the GO button?)
No wonder They have to go to the gym at the end of the day.
THANK YOU...for sharing. Great looking machine.
congratulations on your new exquisite acquisition!
I am super thrilled to see such an upgrade. That is huge!! I can't wait to see it in use.
Great milling machine. I ran a 3H when I was in the Navy. Cut many a gear on these, spur, bevel, and helical. Versatile as hell.
I have that table rotation feature on my milling machine too, a swedish Rosenfors RSF-2
Amazing machine! Can't wait ti see the restoration. Great video mr Rucker.
Great video and explanation, thanks for sharing!
Very nice! Congratulations and very happy to see your wish come true. I look forward to seeing it in use.
Wow! Have many hours on those type of machines and mfg a lot of parts!
Looks great! it’s evident you are very excited to have that machine , I’m very happy for you. It’s nice to get things that bring joy to your life.
New machine days are always fun! Glad you found this one and hope all is well - Tom Z
congrats on the new tool. shop is looking good
So pleased for you. Definitely doesn't look like a rambling wreck!
See the name MILWAUKEE in a large font reminded me of how that town and the surrounding towns were powerhouses of industrial production in the glory days of this country. Now most of those factories are vacant and falling down.
Throughout history the country with the best machine tools ruled the world, economically and otherwise.
Daniel I'm from that area. Even though I'm in my late 30's I've heard and seen all the industries closing as well as what is done to the community because of it. My Stepfather worked for P&H till his retirement a few years back, he was one of a few over-head crane operators that did the extremely heavy lifts, and sometimes maybe only 2 or 3 lifts a night... Anyways, there were times he'd be laid off for a year or better anytime the company would change hands or the mining industry would take a hit, luckily this was a union shop, so their jobs were held for them instead of getting newer cheaper labor like some companies like to pull after a lay-off!!!
Andrew Bronson I work for one of the major railroads that go through the Milwaukee area and it’s sad to pass one vacant industry after another with the rail spur truncated. Like everything else, one can’t dwell in the past.
@@wdhewson Curious fact... back then when the war with japan seemed inevitable, it is well known that the usa shutdown the supply of oil to japan, but what is not so well known is that they also banned the export of machine tools to japan. If one could tour the factories of japan's war industry back then, all the metal working machines were american imports.
As a Flint Michigan native...I know EXACTLY what you wrote...the factories didnt fall down here...they were scraped...A.C, Buick City, Chevy in the Hole...All torn down...some were a mile long...now empty brownfield sites...
Hi Keith,
Nice to see you looking so happy with your new machine...
Take care
Paul,,
Happy for you. I hope the mistery shows up on YT verry soon I,m exited.
Keith, Awesome looking machine anxious for your next video on the operation of this machine, thanks for sharing your video.!.!.!.
Look forward to seeing to use it!
Nice machine, thanks for sharing.
Merry Christmas
She is beautiful. I love the color
I look forward to seeing the old girl working for a living again .Thanks for the video.
Can't wait to see it in action.
1:46 Now you're thinking like Jason Marburger.😉
Congratulations and best of luck with this new/old H-Mill, Keith! We can't wait to see it in action!! 👊👍
The new (to you ) machine looks like it will serve you well! Hope that it proves to be more useful than ever expected.
We've had to rebuild the coolant pumps in most of our cincinnati's and american pacemakers because of the previous owners using water based coolants, so we only use oils as coolant. Makes tools last waaaaay longer when you can keep chips clear and tools cool, plus no rust! Have fun with your new machine!
Nice New Machine Keith
Outstanding Keith! Wonderful acquisition. Very happy for you and it couldn't have gone to a better place.
Hope you find the correct vertical head soon and that the gear fits.
I still think you are getting a large HBM. Time will tell.
Thanks for sharing.
Good score! Looks like it's painter time again and maybe more scraping in the not so near future hopefully not thought! Congratulations! .... I want one 2 !!!
Nice find.
Congrats
I think it would be fun to watch a collaboration video with foundry casting a new arbor head and you mill it to spec.
GREAT VIDEO, I KNOW YOU LOVE THE 3H, LET'S GO TO WORK...
very good vintage milling machine
That 3H looks remarkably like my 2K. It looks great! Congrats! I got a vertical head that does not require a special gear, and I replaced the filter with an adapter that lets me use a standard spin on oil filter.
Congratulations Keith put her to work
With each machine acquisition you are getting closer to the Brian Block machinery scale.
I worked on a KT back in the 60's. The one I used also had a head for vertical milling. The head was attached to a swing bracket so I could remove it and just swing it out of the way to use the machine as a horizontal. Lots of memories
Nice machine!
Enjoyed Keith!
ATB, Robin
"I would like to find option XYZ for my machine."
You have a shop full of machine tools. MAKE IT!
If anyone can find all the stuff it takes to cut helical gears on a horizontal mill it is Keith! Nice upgrade, it is a cute little mill. :-)
man you have a bunch of cleaning and painting to get that machine lookin good
The mystery machine is a shaper. Everyone else has one :)
I can’t wait until you have your planer running !
Weight equals beef and a lot more solid machine. Sounds like a great machine. Good luck with it .
Nice machine👍🏻
Hiya Keith
Glad you're taking care of yourself, Keith! An iron deficiency is nothing to laugh at!
congratulations on the new "old iron"
Nice machine! Can’t wait to see it in action. 😬👍🧑🏻🦽 Eddie wheels
Nice, Good paint job would be cool
Yeah! Now I'll be looking for chips and then paint.
OMG ken bought this because he wanted to paint and detail it. Along the way he may make parts with it. His wife just got two nice diamond studs which need no work so she is wearing them now!
Now we know why you never gave the 2H the paint job she so badly needed. You had wandering eyes.
Hey Keith your plugin cord is pinched between the wood and the milwaukee! Congrats on your new more powerful toy..
*Kieth got a new toy with another coming today, too!*
Beautiful machine, definitely makes my 2hl look tiny! :)
SALUDOS DE SANTIAGO DE CHILE
If you keep cutting oil in your coolant sump, your coolant pump will really like it... I have had oil in my three machines for many years with no stink and rotten carcasses inside the sump ever.. Cheers; Mike in Louisiana
I just got through watching Steve Summers video series he shot last year overhauling a nearly identical machine. His was in way worse shape, though the had the universal head.
The fact that auction companies, decades in, don't hire, part time, a former savvy employee of the company that they're selling the tools from, in an advisory capacity to tell them "yeah, that one went with this, that one went to that" is just murder.
I have a friend in Munich who bought several machines at a part out sale, found out that there quite a few pieces missing, went back, had to back track through the other people who were there and bought stuff, and buy from them, and in one case swap, parts. Considering how much money the auction houses are getting out of this paying someone minimum wage to arrange things for two days would be pennies.
But no, make as much money as possible, destroy machines and equipment as much as possible by separating them.
I’ve been expecting you to come up with a larger mill.
I have a 2h plain made in 1943 with a Bridgeport "M" head on one overarm... Really nice to be able to more one overarm independent of the other... Not all 2h machines had a turnstile to move the overarms.. I am glad my machine has it though as it makes it more versatile for what I am using it... Cheers; Mike in Louisiana
How many reasons can you think of for needing independent overarm movement ?
@@millomweb Two right off the bat: One for making it easier to load arbors as Keith stated and two, a milling head attached to one overarm as with my 2h plain and M head Bridgeport and/or a Kearney and Trecker midget mill.. I have both... Cheers from Louisiana
@@ramsay19481 The first I've seen - as per this video but I can't find an image of a vertical head mounted on only one overarm bar. It's also not logical - there are 2 use them both for increased rigidity - makes sense !
7:00 it's a roulette wheel! Place your bets!
Go Dawgs!
Hah! finally one of the first comments :-) Love your videos Keith! Would be fun if you would do a "walk around" of the area you live in sometime :)
One or two videos ago.👍
Luv it Kieth go bull dogs!!
amazing machine... i recently purchased a similar size Atlas Horizontal MFC.. only difference is about 6000lbs...
I didn't know before but I do now! :-)
See it in action?...I ran one just like it at my job with Bucyrus Erie....seeing this one is like old home week
Those rapids are fast !
Nice looking mill.. I have a 2H 50 taper and I'm looking for the vertical head and drive gear for it. So if that gear you have works on mine we may need to work a deal on making a gear for my mill.
Looks as if you are happy bunny Keith ,😉👏👏👏👍🇬🇧
looks like you are all set .Nice not to have to overhaul a machine before you can use it
After you get the mystery machine, may I suggest the next one might be a 74" Bullard VTL, to clean up those steam engine driver wheels.
It always amazes me the condition of the paint on these old machine tools. There always seems like there is someone who thinks a crappy “new” paint job would look better than just not touching it.
You wonder how an otherwise well-cared-for machine tool has such beat-up paint. Then you remember this mill is about 73 years old...
I am a 1942 model. I’ve taken pretty good care of myself, but if you look closely, I’m pretty beat up, too!🙃
Rick, a lot of people give their equipment a five gallon rebuild!
Yes...some folks just don't understand how to refinish "as it was" to retain integrity of the machine and brand.
Allot of people don’t realize that these machine arnt beauty queens. I’ve worked a k&t like this till all the feed gears went out.
Parted her out and scraped her when she couldn’t do work anymore.
Fluffy Zyox - understood totally. I just don’t see the point of wasting your time applying some half a- paint job. Seems like a total waste of time and effort.
Congrats on your new machine - when are you going to complete work on planer? Really curious to see that in operation. Thanks for the uploads.
Waiting with baited breath for the new Scooby van machine
Lovely old machine! So it weren't only farmall tractors that were model 'H' I guess!
Christmas in September, lucky you.
Saw the patch. I was 3BGD, 1AD back when they were at Ft. Riley. Went to Iraq with them in 05’
Anyway, cheers soldier!
So i guess by next month you will be working on a 3D printed outer support head so you can get one cast up. . but design it with a mounting foot that can be cut off after final boring of the holes and slot. and bore it right on the 3H.. can't have a machine without all the needed accessories.
I'm guessing that the "Mystery Machine" is going to be a Heckuva Big Machine.
It was :)
The contract number can often has a clue as to when the contract was dated/finalized. This will be a 2 digit number which signifies the date when the contract was finalized.
Guess you could cut gears into a flat bar by turning the deck to an angle...I guess it depends how far you can rotate the table and keep it clear while working...interesting.