Nice video! Just installed that 3 gear adapter as well. Thanks for sharing how you solved the battery mounting. I ended up molding a front battery tray that allows me to keep the interior.
Ain't buying no more Axial trucks since they released the 10-3. I don't support companies that try to sell flash and extra gizmos over actual performance. They had the top truck hands down. But now, gotta give it to my Ecto. Way better than any 10-3. Have fun man.
I added the Enduro teams to a set of Capra axles on a G-Speed chassis. I had the same issue with lack of wheel speed so to all the reduction. I went 4s w/ a Hobbywing 880 esc. Made a huge difference.
Awesome video! I love that transmission. I’m currently swapping one into my Capra. I installed the Team KNK 25% overdrive gears and using the Element axles.
I love the hobby, and I love crawlers/ trail riders. I'm aware that to each their own, it's a personal choice and all that jazz. If I sound upset it's because I ordered this model in kit form, and...I don't know. It just makes me feel as if I wasted my money! I could have bought a roller from eBay but they're more expensive if not the same price as a kit. Such expensive things only for someone to just tear them apart to turn them into Frankenstein. No offense to you sir. I love your videos and content, but I guess it's just the way I think.
You made a 10 II - with Portals!! 😜 But with SERIOUS Torque! As a pure Crawler, I wouldn't touch it. Maybe go back to a 3 Slot 550.... Definitely geared for it.
Yeah I’ll mess with the spur gear and a faster motor. I do want a bit more speed because now that it runs so much better I’ll use it more need a bit of wheel speed from time to time. With all the gearing I could possibly get by just fine with a 12t Trailmaster and not have any issues.
That’s cool, I can really see how this could be useful. I guess I need to do a video on how I got my 10.3 to not click a single click. It is nice not hearing it. I have another 10.3 that I didn’t build that clicks and I need to fix so maybe with that one. With this Bowhouse it did drop some weight and lowered the CG a little
I had the same issues when I put portals underneath my element Enduro. I went with a 81t spur and 26t pinion. Helped so much. Got me wheel speed back a little bit and crawls super slow
So, axial makes a 10.3 and in less than a year people start putting straight axles and a 3 gear transmission in it making it basically a 10.2. Hahaha! Awesome!
I’ve got a 10ii kit on the way... I almost just got the 10.3 straight axles for a build because that front end is nice but for the money the whole 10.2 kit is the better deal for me.
@@ExocagedRC. I just got my first 10.3 kit. Holy moly it's a heck of a kit for sure! Lol! I wouldn't recommend it to a newbie. At the rate I go it'll take me a month to finish it. Hahaha!
Cool idea Joe. Have you checked out the "Fender Delete" option for these trucks? It gives more tire clearance and makes the truck look meaner and more agressive. Also lightens it up a tad as well. There are a few options for the fender delete. (go for the Thingverse version, its free, just get someone to print a set for you) Cheers Buddy.
So with basically every release from Horizon in the last two years has really grown the after market support network because they aren’t nimble enough to address issues for customers. Even Team Associated with their Element addressed the plastics issue in the next generation. That stock transmission had so much potential but to date they’ve still not come out with something to address the tolerance issues. Just blows my mind.
So does the interior not fit because of the different transmission or because of the forward battery placement? I love the 10.3 but have no use for the dig or the two speed.
I know I'm a little late to the show but thoroughly enjoyed this video. I picked up a SCX10 iii JLU kit while they were on sale back last year. Since building it and hating how loud it is I've decided to put in an Element Enduro transmission. I'm hoping to keep most of the interior if possible, but if not it will still be worth it for some late night living room crawling without waking everybody up, lol. By the way, I'm in Lakeland. What part of Florida are you in?
I use either a hacked Flysky GT3c, Flysky GT5 or Radiolink RC6GS, I also have a futaba 4pls. I haven’t had either of the two radios you mentioned but I’m sure the Futaba is a solid choice and quite a few locals have the DX5 rugged and love em.
Oh no sir this one still has the portals on it. That’s why it was so slow. But yeah you’re right, with straight axles it would just be a glorified 10.2.
I’ve ran with about 8 of these trucks. It including mine. Most were rtr’s and all but one had a click under load. That loaded click is the two input gears having a bore that’s too large for the shaft they are on they shift under load, that’s the click.
Why not just put a AXE 550 3300 kv motor in it or a Castle 3800kv motor in it? Those will give you the extra motor speed and have plenty of torque to boot. Also, I am not sure if you mentioned it, but where you using a 2S or 3S LiPo?
@@ExocagedRC I too have been debating on a rock racer as my next build. I am looking at going with a 4S LiPo setup, so Castle seems to be the best option I know that has a crawler type ESC. My brother runs a Castle Mamba X crawler ESC with their 3800kv slate motor in his Axial SCX10III. It doesn't seem to be all that loud, but even on 3S, it is very fast. I couldn't imagine it on 4S. But comparing it to my AXE 550 3300kv system, mine has much control than his at low speeds, but I can't keep up with Castle's high RPM speeds their motors produce. I think if he geared down and did some more fine tuning with Castle's ESC, it could perform much better.
Now you have basically bought and adapted pretty much what I would call a really up to date "SCX10".... with updated parts, and portal axles. People don't realize how many times they are "taken for a ride" !!!! In regular life, of course as well !! SAD Well, at least we can use the old tried & true components, like the 3-gear trans. !! 😁 - I always wonder why most RC-ers do not buy the NEW Gmade GS02F components, which have an awesome (1st & 2nd gear-ratio), (overdrive in 1st), and a (1 to 1) in 2nd gear for fast-er trailing. ????? It should bolt-up to the SCX10 OR SCX10 II Chassis set-up. The only function you would not have is DIG. SPEKTRUM & HORIZON want AND expect buyers to be dependent on their creations and electronics, like the G1 SMART connectors, the fact that you can only use "their motor" & "their ESC" to have a working, (paired set-up) becomes mandatory, and I do not like being corralled !! Told what motor & esc I have to choose from !! So, if you like your RC FREEDOM, don't buy from a dictating hobby provider like Spektrum, or Horizon. DO YOU ALL SEE WHERE THIS TACTIC IS LEADING US !?? ....YES, TO A BIG LOSS OF FREEDOM, AND OPTIONS AMONGST OUR CHOICES. (WHEN IT PERTAINS TO THE RC HOBBY) !! - SEE HOW IT STARTS.......!???🤔 🇺🇲
We have castle, the aftermarket stepped up and got us the adaptor to fit the 3gear or Enduro trans in there. Vitavon made us the nice housings. We have our choice on bodies tires wheels etc so I don’t feel limited. The paired esc/motor thing isn’t all that bad as they are engineered to work together and they generally do work very well together. You can build a scaler anyway you want, it’s the most “free” style of RC out there.
The motor pairing is not really any different to the fact you must run a brushed motor with a brushed esc.. Can't just slap a brushless motor in... Cheers 👍
I electronically as well as mechanically disabled the DIG on my Capra because my WiFi headphones occasionally/erroneously activated the DIG and then would require disconnecting/reconnecting the battery to disengage it. I LOVE my Axial Bomber and LOVE my Capra as well now that the accursed DIG is disconnected. If Axial had left the superfluous gimmickry of the DIG and the available second gear out of the SCX10-III (and had the purchase price reflect it) my Traxxas TRX-4 Sport would NOT be my only scale 'overlander' in my RC collection. I laud Axial's devotion to highly detailed 'scale' RCs but wish they'd reserve the BS sales gimmicks to those who value such gimmicks. Maybe the SCX10-III's transmission wouldn't be a clicking, mechanical cacophony if they had just 'K I S S'.
I love the dig feature and have it on quite a few trucks. On this truck, it’s kinda just not needed. The 2nd gear trans was almost useless as well. Your trx4 is a GREAT vehicle and tough as nails too
Dig is not a gimmick, super powerful tool when set up and powered appropriately and correctly. I get its hard to comprehend for folks that can't grasp all the details and yes Axial should have built it better but it can be tuned to work. Vanquish dig units are flawless, works in out, lock unlock, everytime no matter the situation... Cheers 👍
@@mickd8188 I fully understand the advantages of a DIG, but most are only enjoyed if 'competitively' scale crawling, actual 1/1 rock crawling, or for reasons of braggadocio among fellow enthusiasts. Non-competitively driving one's 1/10 scale crawler in a common residential or commercial rock garden offers little need for all the added complexity/cost.
@@mickd8188 I wasn't going to dive into digital electronics to see why my "digital" cordless headphones that I wear when I drive my crawlers were erroneously triggering the DIG from time to time. Far easier and cheaper to simply defeat the DIG system.
Dang my friend, you lost up your dig, you lost all wheel speed, lost your interior, lost the scale looking transmission & in the end for what? 😂 I just don't see any advantages to these upgrades whatsoever. a simple brushless swap fixes everything, low speed, high speed & everything in between. although I can't complain I have the Gladiator & it doesn't click at all never has.... 👍🏻
Nice video! Just installed that 3 gear adapter as well. Thanks for sharing how you solved the battery mounting. I ended up molding a front battery tray that allows me to keep the interior.
Got mine ordered. Gonna put it in my Gladiator. Thanks for all the informative vids.
Ain't buying no more Axial trucks since they released the 10-3. I don't support companies that try to sell flash and extra gizmos over actual performance.
They had the top truck hands down. But now, gotta give it to my Ecto.
Way better than any 10-3.
Have fun man.
Yep. I never would've bought a SCX10 III. I'm glad I won mine from Proline/Horizon Hobby.
I added the Enduro teams to a set of Capra axles on a G-Speed chassis. I had the same issue with lack of wheel speed so to all the reduction. I went 4s w/ a Hobbywing 880 esc. Made a huge difference.
Definitely need to get me one of those for the parts list
Sweeeet upgrade. . Looking nice on the Rocks 💯👍
Yep. Just placed my order 😆 thanks for the quick review on this 👍
Awesome video! I love that transmission. I’m currently swapping one into my Capra. I installed the Team KNK 25% overdrive gears and using the Element axles.
You'll love it! I put a Vanquish 3 gear with their V2 dig unit in my Capra recently and couldn't be happier! The gearing is absolutely perfect.
I actually did the Element axles and shocks too. I had an empty Capra cage to play with after I build a Sparetime Hobbies Optimus.
No more clickety mcclikerson as Mr. Exo once said in a previous video lol. Like the change though keep it up exocaged. 👍👍👍
Nice upgrades brother. Great video
Put a nice brushless combo in it. More wheel speed and still good crawling!
Put some overdrive ring and pinions in the axles to get the wheel speed back up. With the overdrive in the trans now it will do better.
I'll buy the stock trans.
I love the hobby, and I love crawlers/ trail riders. I'm aware that to each their own, it's a personal choice and all that jazz. If I sound upset it's because I ordered this model in kit form, and...I don't know. It just makes me feel as if I wasted my money! I could have bought a roller from eBay but they're more expensive if not the same price as a kit. Such expensive things only for someone to just tear them apart to turn them into Frankenstein.
No offense to you sir. I love your videos and content, but I guess it's just the way I think.
You made a 10 II - with Portals!! 😜 But with SERIOUS Torque!
As a pure Crawler, I wouldn't touch it. Maybe go back to a 3 Slot 550.... Definitely geared for it.
Yeah I’ll mess with the spur gear and a faster motor. I do want a bit more speed because now that it runs so much better I’ll use it more need a bit of wheel speed from time to time. With all the gearing I could possibly get by just fine with a 12t Trailmaster and not have any issues.
That’s cool, I can really see how this could be useful. I guess I need to do a video on how I got my 10.3 to not click a single click. It is nice not hearing it. I have another 10.3 that I didn’t build that clicks and I need to fix so maybe with that one. With this Bowhouse it did drop some weight and lowered the CG a little
I tried everything with my clicker, only the foil under the input gears helped.
I like it , very impressive or just your driving 😁👊🏻👍🏻
I had the same issues when I put portals underneath my element Enduro. I went with a 81t spur and 26t pinion. Helped so much. Got me wheel speed back a little bit and crawls super slow
So, axial makes a 10.3 and in less than a year people start putting straight axles and a 3 gear transmission in it making it basically a 10.2. Hahaha! Awesome!
IMHO, proof the 10.2 is still THE ultimate crawler! 👍
@@old-rcplane-phart. I hear ya ! The 10.2 is hard to beat. Simple is always good. Hahaha!
I’ve got a 10ii kit on the way... I almost just got the 10.3 straight axles for a build because that front end is nice but for the money the whole 10.2 kit is the better deal for me.
Exocaged RC you right Joe, you right
@@ExocagedRC. I just got my first 10.3 kit. Holy moly it's a heck of a kit for sure! Lol! I wouldn't recommend it to a newbie. At the rate I go it'll take me a month to finish it. Hahaha!
I wonder if you could put overdrive gears in the front and rear to speed it up a little bit more?
That is come hyperspd haha nice got to get it low now so u can be low and slow now ✊🏽✊🏽
Do you think a Vanquish transmission could be fitted, so you can change between overdrive and still have dig? 🙂
Cool idea Joe. Have you checked out the "Fender Delete" option for these trucks? It gives more tire clearance and makes the truck look meaner and more agressive. Also lightens it up a tad as well. There are a few options for the fender delete. (go for the Thingverse version, its free, just get someone to print a set for you) Cheers Buddy.
So with basically every release from Horizon in the last two years has really grown the after market support network because they aren’t nimble enough to address issues for customers. Even Team Associated with their Element addressed the plastics issue in the next generation. That stock transmission had so much potential but to date they’ve still not come out with something to address the tolerance issues. Just blows my mind.
100% agree.
@@ExocagedRC I'm highly disappointed with horizon/axial. They really burnt me on my 6x6....
Did you have to mess with the driveshaft length in the rear?
with Axial 3-gear SMT Transmission will stock drive shafts work and do i still need bowhouse adapter your awesome
So does the interior not fit because of the different transmission or because of the forward battery placement? I love the 10.3 but have no use for the dig or the two speed.
I would love to see u get underdrive diffs and portal gears for both axles and see just how low u can go.
Oh I could put a much smaller pinion on it, swap in a slower motor and 2S but the lack of wheelspeed would hurt more than it would help.
@@ExocagedRC so do all of the above and see what we get.
Pretty sure the team associated b4 buggy used the same spur. That's what I did. Also you said OD the front and rear will speed it up also ?
Yeah can use OD gears in both ends to get some speed back.
I threw a vanquish 3 gear trans with hertz dig in my 10.3 months ago then smashed the stock trans with a hammer
How did you get it to fit?
Plan on doing the same with my gladiator 😂😂
that body is slowly growing on me, wonder how hard it would be to mount it on a trx4
I know I'm a little late to the show but thoroughly enjoyed this video. I picked up a SCX10 iii JLU kit while they were on sale back last year. Since building it and hating how loud it is I've decided to put in an Element Enduro transmission. I'm hoping to keep most of the interior if possible, but if not it will still be worth it for some late night living room crawling without waking everybody up, lol. By the way, I'm in Lakeland. What part of Florida are you in?
Bad old Floriduh. I'm glad I moved from there many years ago.
Instead of Clickety Mcclickerson now you can call this truck Captain clearance. 😆
LoL😂😂😂
Hi Joe, I know you may have covered this before but what radio do you use? Also what do you think of the Futaba FPM and the Spektrum DX5 Rugged?
I use either a hacked Flysky GT3c, Flysky GT5 or Radiolink RC6GS, I also have a futaba 4pls. I haven’t had either of the two radios you mentioned but I’m sure the Futaba is a solid choice and quite a few locals have the DX5 rugged and love em.
So strait axles and a center transmission? So it’s a scx10-2 now?
Oh no sir this one still has the portals on it. That’s why it was so slow. But yeah you’re right, with straight axles it would just be a glorified 10.2.
@@ExocagedRC thanks for the reply, love the videos
I fixed the clicking in mine cause the pin was on the wrong side of the portal gear. There is a square slot on one side and a round slot on the other.
Been there tried that. Nothing ever worked for me besides using foil on the input gears.
Great video! 💯
What are those beadlock? They are really nice!
Reefs RC Fury. Links in description for them
LMAO Scale leak! I need help tho man, I can't find wheels to fit mine, what did you use, did you need extenders? Thanks
Some wheels just don’t fit. Budget it a big question on this as these are reefs wheels and they are $165 a set of 4 and then you buy SLW adaptors.
@@ExocagedRC Thanks so much Joe! I'm not sure what SLW adapters are, but heard Vanquish fit for $60 per wheel.
78 tooth spur is available...part# Associated 9652
Got it ordered. Thanks!
@@ExocagedRC awsome
put next the capra case in ;)
That would give me the speed and dig back. But this adapter doesn’t allow for that.
👍🏾
I built mine and it doesn’t make no noises from the transmission
I’ve ran with about 8 of these trucks. It including mine. Most were rtr’s and all but one had a click under load. That loaded click is the two input gears having a bore that’s too large for the shaft they are on they shift under load, that’s the click.
Why not just put a AXE 550 3300 kv motor in it or a Castle 3800kv motor in it? Those will give you the extra motor speed and have plenty of torque to boot.
Also, I am not sure if you mentioned it, but where you using a 2S or 3S LiPo?
I have a 3300kv R2 system in the bin I’ve been saving for the ryft if it ever shows up. Castle is awesome but so noisy on video.
@@ExocagedRC I too have been debating on a rock racer as my next build. I am looking at going with a 4S LiPo setup, so Castle seems to be the best option I know that has a crawler type ESC. My brother runs a Castle Mamba X crawler ESC with their 3800kv slate motor in his Axial SCX10III. It doesn't seem to be all that loud, but even on 3S, it is very fast. I couldn't imagine it on 4S. But comparing it to my AXE 550 3300kv system, mine has much control than his at low speeds, but I can't keep up with Castle's high RPM speeds their motors produce. I think if he geared down and did some more fine tuning with Castle's ESC, it could perform much better.
@@ExocagedRC that sucks on the Ryft... some have found their way to Aussie shops yesterday. Usually we way behind..
Cheers 👍
i haven’t had any clicking
Mine doesn't click either. Dude probably built his wrong.
What size pinion did you use?
stock 13t I think
@@ExocagedRC thanks for the reply!
team associated makes several sizes of spur gear that will fit
Yeah got a smaller one ordered.
in the end you might as well buy the SCX 10 2. cheaper and more efficient
Nah. This is still way different than a 10.2. Although I do have a new 10.2 kit on the way... LoL
I don’t know. Still loud. I like my enduro more than my gladiator it’s silent with axe. When I say silent I mean just that. It’s silent
Now you have basically bought and adapted pretty much what I would call a really up to date "SCX10".... with updated parts, and portal axles.
People don't realize how many times they are "taken for a ride" !!!! In regular life, of course as well !! SAD
Well, at least we can use the old tried & true components, like the 3-gear trans. !! 😁
- I always wonder why most RC-ers do not buy the NEW Gmade GS02F components, which have an awesome (1st & 2nd gear-ratio), (overdrive in 1st), and a (1 to 1) in 2nd gear for fast-er trailing. ?????
It should bolt-up to the SCX10 OR SCX10 II Chassis set-up. The only function you would not have is DIG.
SPEKTRUM & HORIZON want AND expect buyers to be dependent on their creations and electronics, like the G1 SMART connectors, the fact that you can only use "their motor" & "their ESC" to have a working, (paired set-up) becomes mandatory, and I do not like being corralled !! Told what motor & esc I have to choose from !! So, if you like your RC FREEDOM, don't buy from a dictating hobby provider like Spektrum, or Horizon. DO YOU ALL SEE WHERE THIS TACTIC IS LEADING US !??
....YES, TO A BIG LOSS OF FREEDOM, AND OPTIONS AMONGST OUR CHOICES. (WHEN IT PERTAINS TO THE RC HOBBY) !!
- SEE HOW IT STARTS.......!???🤔
🇺🇲
We have castle, the aftermarket stepped up and got us the adaptor to fit the 3gear or Enduro trans in there. Vitavon made us the nice housings. We have our choice on bodies tires wheels etc so I don’t feel limited. The paired esc/motor thing isn’t all that bad as they are engineered to work together and they generally do work very well together. You can build a scaler anyway you want, it’s the most “free” style of RC out there.
The motor pairing is not really any different to the fact you must run a brushed motor with a brushed esc..
Can't just slap a brushless motor in...
Cheers 👍
I electronically as well as mechanically disabled the DIG on my Capra because my WiFi headphones occasionally/erroneously activated the DIG and then would require disconnecting/reconnecting the battery to disengage it. I LOVE my Axial Bomber and LOVE my Capra as well now that the accursed DIG is disconnected. If Axial had left the superfluous gimmickry of the DIG and the available second gear out of the SCX10-III (and had the purchase price reflect it) my Traxxas TRX-4 Sport would NOT be my only scale 'overlander' in my RC collection. I laud Axial's devotion to highly detailed 'scale' RCs but wish they'd reserve the BS sales gimmicks to those who value such gimmicks. Maybe the SCX10-III's transmission wouldn't be a clicking, mechanical cacophony if they had just 'K I S S'.
I love the dig feature and have it on quite a few trucks. On this truck, it’s kinda just not needed. The 2nd gear trans was almost useless as well. Your trx4 is a GREAT vehicle and tough as nails too
Dig is not a gimmick, super powerful tool when set up and powered appropriately and correctly. I get its hard to comprehend for folks that can't grasp all the details and yes Axial should have built it better but it can be tuned to work.
Vanquish dig units are flawless, works in out, lock unlock, everytime no matter the situation...
Cheers 👍
@@mickd8188 I fully understand the advantages of a DIG, but most are only enjoyed if 'competitively' scale crawling, actual 1/1 rock crawling, or for reasons of braggadocio among fellow enthusiasts. Non-competitively driving one's 1/10 scale crawler in a common residential or commercial rock garden offers little need for all the added complexity/cost.
@@douglaselliott8298 spoken like a true person that couldn't get it to work properly.
I use it every time I'm out by myself bragging to no one.
Cheers
@@mickd8188 I wasn't going to dive into digital electronics to see why my "digital" cordless headphones that I wear when I drive my crawlers were erroneously triggering the DIG from time to time. Far easier and cheaper to simply defeat the DIG system.
Sweet 3rd gear..od all the way,,u can donate clicking the clack 2 me thank u ...✌
Hey Joe, if you don't move the battery to front, will the interior still fit with the 3 gear tranny?
You know I'll buy that transmission and transfer case out of that RC if you want to sell it let me know
...... email me exocagedrc@yahoo.com
RIP Clicky McClakerson.
1st again? 😳
Wait what endpoints matter??? Lol
😂😂😂
That good old single speed is old news now-a-days lol. Seems like everyone has more 2 speed trucks than anything
Yeah but the traxxas 2-speed is such a nice unit. The way the motor mounts to it is the biggest issue.
Lol looks I done it lol
Dang my friend, you lost up your dig, you lost all wheel speed, lost your interior, lost the scale looking transmission & in the end for what? 😂 I just don't see any advantages to these upgrades whatsoever. a simple brushless swap fixes everything, low speed, high speed & everything in between. although I can't complain I have the Gladiator & it doesn't click at all never has.... 👍🏻
I did not like that stock trans, too big too clunky and too clicky.
All you gotta do is put a brushless system in it to gain back wheel speed.