Understanding the Basics of Indian Raga Music
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Sameer Sayani, a student in MUS470 class, performs an Indian rāga on his sitar and talks about the structure of the melody, basic scales, importance of improvisation, constructing phrases with simple notes, and the lack of major harmony. The MUS470 course (Harmonic Experience: Metaphysics and Music) explores philosophic, theoretical, mathematical, and cosmological foundations of music. See the class blog at blogs.emory.edu/harmonicexperi...
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Thank you all for your wonderful comments :-) I haven't checked the comment section on this video in quite a while but I'm glad you all are still looking and posting your thoughts. And to those of you who feel that my playing is not quite up to par and that I have a long way to go... I agree. Albeit, I feel that I have come a VERY long way since this video was shot, in retrospect, I should've put in some more practice time before having this video made. Nonetheless, thank you all once again!
Sameer ji, it was wonderful. Thank you for sharing for gifts.
@@BigBandWolf If you want to learn sitar, then the only way is to find a guru. But if you want to learn _about_ the sitar, or Indian music in general, UA-cam is the way lol, binge concerts, look up short performances get to know about the basic terms in Indian music so you can understand the complexity of a musical piece. Anuja Kamat's UA-cam channel is a great way to get to know the basics in short videos which will help you understand a performance. If you want to hear musical pieces, TheDarbarFestival is a very good channel with a variety of performances from various styles of Indian classical.
Just so you know, what you heard here is the North Indian Hindustani style of Indian classical, there is another one of the south called the Carnatic, and the Carnatic equivalent of the sitar would be the Veena. It is also considered to be the parent of the Sitar. Jayanthi Kumaresh is a fantastic Vainika (veena player) and has her own channel on youtube where she teaches you about a lot of the same basic concepts as Anuja Kamat but on an instrument rather than vocally. She also elaborates on various ragas and their uniqueness.
Also yes, that is a drone in the background which is synthesized on the electric "shruti" box. Hope you found this useful!
this is a link to what a raga is: ua-cam.com/video/CBtFt3HUkT0/v-deo.html
Why's everyone getting on this dude's case? This is a great way of "introducing" the world to an ancient instrument.
Your doing great mate - KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
I don't know by what parameter you call the sitar 'ancient'. Could you perhaps clarify on the same ?
Great point except the sitar is not an “ancient” instrument although Raga music certainly has ancient origins.
The sitar in its current form is probably not more than a hundred years old.
The Sitar is not ancient, especially in its current form.
Sitar found in probably invented in 13th Century by Aamir Khusrau. He re-christened the Veena to Sitar. Tabla also invented by him.
@@JonathanJustus There was an instrument called the Tritantri Veena in India before the Persian Setar was introduced. Do you have reference sources to the evidence of Amir Khusrau and the Setar? It is popularly claimed that he is responsible for the Sitar but to my knowledge, there is no evidence. Where does it record Amir Khushrau inventing Tabla? Some say it is a modification of Midngram other musicologists say it was introduced from the Middle East.
Guys! in words of Guthie Govan "Music can´t be view as a competition thing, it´s not an olimpics thing where you have to beat the other guy! If you have to beat anything it's you a week ago or year ago, you haver to be better than that..." ...it´s not my favorite explanation of Raga I 'd seen on youtube, but still interesting.
Highest level of praise will be nothing here, it is that much higher level of job. What I liked the most:
1. Learned Sitar
2. Spreading knowledge
3. Preserving culture
What else is needed.
+Hugh Jones agreed. I knew nothing at all of raagas a year ago. I heard raag shree played by Niladri Kumar on you tube this past June, and I began to research it. The more I learned and understood, the less interested I became in pop and western music... and I live in America. There is something so special and cosmic in this music.
beautiful
I think this gentleman did a great job explaining everything. He was very thorough. Overall great job Sameer.
That class is so blissed-out.
thank you so much sameer sayani. appreciate it very much. you are a great teacher. got my head around a lot of questions i had...
Amazing tones and melodies in the piece you played.
This is a good video to understand the basic concept of the raag and I felt the student did a sufficient job explaining the music.
This is a great lesson for pretty much any instrument at all on how to construct an interesting and dynamic improvisational solo; start simple and then slowly unfold the melody.
Great for expsoing different musical styles. Thanks for posting the video.
thank you... it's pretty hard to learn anything about indian music when you live far away... I' m pretty sure ppl may have a point when they criticize, as they live in the land of the masters, but I have to say it's been the best lesson I've had so far about indian music and the sitar playing... and your teaching could reach me in brazil... thank you...
Oi amigo eu sei que se passaram 8 a os desde esse comentário
Também estou tentando aprender música Indiana, sabe onde posso encontrar bons conteúdos para aprender um raga?
@@ichigokun10 well search anuja kamath. Hope your doubts will be solved.
He teaches VERY very well!
good introduction to India Raga Music.
Kya baat Ustadji!
So beautifully explained. ❤
Teaching is a great way of learning! Thanks for sharing!
Now I need to get a sitar! I love it:-) Thanks for the post!
Ha ha ...
Amazing. Thank you very much for sharing.
... thanks for posting. Nice and clear instruction. Helped clarify some concepts for me, was also need to see how the hands count out the time. Has given me some good ideas.
That was very useful -- thanks for sharing!
Really interesting, for a complete beginner this was a great intro.
Simply amazing
That was wonderful.
Thanks for sharing.
Just AMAZING ❤👋👋👋
Very nice a beautiful sound.
awesome!!!
Wow that is so impressive
Like the dream catchers on his top peg. But refrain from touching your feet and then the instrument.
GENIAL! , ESTE CURSO TIENE TODO LO QUE ME ENCANTA , NO SABIA QUE EXISTIA !!!
God this music is so.....soothing...
A great intro to Hindustani music. I play the Afghan Rabab and the same theory applies.
I studied many ragas in my youth, and had a gig at an indian restaurant playing them, on a guitar, in sitar tuning (youtube sitar guitar) and I feel like in a way this is a philosophical discussion on music theory, and not focused enough on the ragas themselves. I digress, I'm a critic, I was hoping for an approach more akin to a dissection of the nitty gritty of the scales, time signatures, and "non-diatonic" notes that I personally feel define ragas.
Great video nonetheless, be well!
The lecturer is cool!!
Understanding the Basics of Indian Raga Music
its the tiny little box next to him, its called a shruthi box, look it up. u can easily find electronic versions of it that produce the same sound on your laptop!
@afghanforlife by all means, much much appreciated!
Thank you :-)
if I could take this course, I would...
This person is talking in true terminology of Indian classical Music. e.g. He has written Sa ,Re ,Ga, Ma & so on. While our people now a days talk in Western classical music terminology like " C minor" or something like that even while playing indian music.
Yeah even I don't understand what is g sharp and c minor etc .
And that was 10 years ago
@ssayani87
the intonation on the meends could be more secure but I'm sure you know this and working on it. keep it up and best of luck!
Finishing up a stressful day at work, and I swear my blood pressure just dropped about 6 points! Am I hearing an tanpura in the background or are the sympathetic strings just droning? Either way, thank you for the lesson...and the soothing music.
Soundsgreat ,great teacher, what's the name of instrument is that you are using? Very ancient.
Sitar
@@hhmbbb8331 thank you
c, C, Ut, Do is mostly the same frequency for a particular A440, et al. However, Sa is whatever is comfortable. ;-)
hey Sameer Sayani, hey man you are really good in explaining this whole stuff with clarity. wish to get connected to you and learn more of the basics of indian raga music. please let me know if i can connect to you via emails. sajjad
I agree, but if you didn't know anything about North Indian music, I think this would be a good introduction. There is no way you could really explain raga in 20 minutes.
to you as well
Want to learn Sitar? Come to Benaras and learn from the pandits, and Ustads, or better still join one of the gharanas. Also to all Sitar learners, listen to the song .... Nainon me badra chaaye" film Mera Saya, and the initial sitar aalap etc that starts the song.
How can i contact the sitar plaer in this viedo? Is the sitar your playing a Gandhar Panchamwho was the maker. Are you happy with this style of sitar, It sounds great!
bodiji
i agree with you & he's one of the teachers in Jamplay too. but it's absurd to compare him with vai...lol that's never happening!!
now back to the topic, he can dominate any instrument with his own approach of music but he has to spend 50-60 years of his life understanding the carnatic or hindustani music itself which is totally vague & misrepresented in western media. once you know it you can understand how deep those raagas are. no offense to abasi's music.
I tried some of these harmonics on violin...omaigod o3o sounds like nirvanaheavenrainbowkittens
What brand electric Tanpura is that?
it's not about feel or dexterity. indian classical music is vastly different from regular western music & theory. the gurus have spent their whole life figuring it out & mastering it. even this guy can't play most of them forget about abasi...i'm serious not even steve vai or satriani can play those alaps in this instrument. tosin is a kid to them i guess.
very informative.
Really good sound and music 🎶
One question about 440 and 432, what are the Indian raga scales tuned as? I'm just curious
Just intonation
17:34
I truly agree with 1 thing here... Gatorade is not juice...
I don't think the scales are the same (1.55). In Indian classical music there is the Kiravani raga which uses the scale: sa ri ga ma pa dha ni sa which is about equivalent to C D Eb F G Ab B c.
This is what I just learnt. Can someone please verify this and not let either one of us go astray.
I think he's just saying that the scales in Indian music aren't that different to those in western music, and he plays a major scale on the sitar as an example. The scale you mention would be called the Harmonic Minor in western music. Yngwie Malmsteen made a career out of it. LOL.
I dont know a lot about music, but the notes in indian music can deviate sometimes from their original position. The original notes are obviously CDEFGABC. But specific ragas use specific set of notes ie special scales.
Sa and pa never deviate. Re ga dha ni can get a little lower, called 'komal'(means soft) , ma can get a little higher, called 'tivra'(means sharp).
In the specific raag u mentioned the ga and dha are komal. Everything else is original.
In yaman, the raag that he is playing, ma is tivra. Everything else is normal.
I hope this helps.
bro where are you '
A recently released book discusses this topic.
It is "Carnatic and Western music- blending the two systems" by
V.S. Narasimhan.
Check youtube with the above name for contents and availability.
Es el sonido de la tampura, es la guia del raga.
would be nice if he touched upon the rules of the raag. Like how you have to abide by certain movements when traversing notes of the scale. This part confuses me
Raag literally means a Colour !
super explinations n play!!!
How about Jeff Loomis or Jason Becker?
I'm glad that people in the West are recognising Hindustani classical music some of divine music.
Nikeel ' still there ...!!! Le Son de cet instrument est divin ... Ravi acquiesce ...et moi aussi ...!!! Oh , Narayan ! .!!!...tu danses ! ....§§§
With a cup of Sita' , Krishna gets a glimpse from Parvati ...so Saraswati comes and vaporizes flavours as " Hrish'in the Distance "...!!!
sitar
@dkmkartha learnt?
You made things more complicated Dude
C sharp
All very good but his chikari are not tuned !?!?
Surely it must put him off as he plays !!!
what is the name of the instrument
Mort Fantôme it’s called a “sitar”
why should he?
Mucho habla!
I think you need more riyaz on the meends .
As incredible as Tosin is, this instrument is vastly different. It requires much more than being a theory powerhouse and impeccable finger dexterity.
if this is what he calls basics!! then I should probably stop even thinking about being musician.
boley jaa rahe hai.. speaking,, speaking....
Electronic tanpura.
Anoushka Shankar said this music is much less improvisational than jazz.
The guy is wrong.
what is that background music/noise?
its a Tanpura
Tampura, providing the drone and later the tabla consisting of two drums, one high pitched on the root and one low, which can be varied somewhat by squeezing with the knees.
+Nathan Kessel Shruti box
Tanpura , it's a bass instrument. Mostly used to fill the music
Its the key in which the raga is based
Is that an electric sitar?
what are those fancy knobs?
tuners, sitars have a lot of strings
Z
Awsome but the topic of this Video is Understanding the Basics of Indian Raga Music .which i dont see. You should be explaining what Yaman is what the notations are and what is the accending and descending and the pakar and when is it played vbut thanks for at least trying....
santa claus is comin to town
as a guitarist with 48 years playing just learning sitar, I know that you should not be teaching. you can play well enough but lack the skill and insight needed to help or encourage others. you also seem to be boosting your ego rather than trying to impart knowladge
He certainly has not been practising all those hours he talks about!! Raga Sangeet is a musical science. Not this mumbo jumbo.
Yes, I feel that this players skill level is far below the point at which he should be lecturing and demonstrating this music, especially with 82,000 views!! What a shame! I am not hearing the Yeman raag coming here at all, the Alap is lacking many important phrases which require more advanced Meend technique, as well as application of elements incorrectly. The importance of Ni in Yeman must be emphasized just as much as Ga. As well as the relative importance of the Pa-Re swar sangati. Meend is the heart of sitar and you must devote much more practice to its development and nuance. I am not saying that you are not a promising aspiring player, but maybe a bit too soon to be a representative/teacher of this art form...
I think that while yes, he isn't the best... here in America it is good for people to be exposed to raagas. Any exposure that causes one to be interested will draw them in, and create a desire to learn more. He may not be the best, but he is creating interest in an American audience. This is a good thing.
Lets hear your version
Speaking as a music teacher, the best teacher is not necessarily the person who is the most showy about displaying their peacock plumage. They don't even teach this at my university (or the previous one I studies at) in NZ. It's too 'hard'. I was turned away from learning the sitar as a child on the sole basis of being a girl. This kind of video is pure gold - there was a time when it would never have been made available publicly to 'foreigners' or non-Indians (of the appropriate caste), let alone women. Also there is a religious significance to each Raga and the dialogue occurring within it that is difficult to explain / convey and also grasp.
I agree this wasn't the best Yaman BUT Who are you to judge? You don't know the reasoning behind his lecture? Perhaps it was an assignment. Perhaps the University got interested and was inquisitive about modal music. Sir, anyone is allowed to teach within his or her level of experience and skill. He wasn't representing his teacher, or his Gharana at a major Classical Hindustani music festival. I don't know where you get that notion from? It is quite obvious he was giving an informative basic lesson. Your attitude lacks empathy and your words are quite frankly demeaning and inappropriate. According to your logic only established and 'recognized' musicians should teach, lecture.. How about playing for fun? How about having the freedom to express yourself, for the sake and the love of music? I don't know who you are, but I'm sure your guruji (if you play at all) would disagree.
We cant show whole khowledge to beginers
@oneforrestone Please find a musicians who plays or sings Indian music with the feeling of Raaga (Raga-bhaav) and learn from him or her by imitating him or her on your sitar phrase by phrase and be corrected by them. I learnt the bansuri that way from a singer after I had learnt the basics. Indian music can be learnt only in the direct way--listening and imitating and being corrected by the teacher on the spot and then slowly the Raga consciousness will rise. No short cuts.
I came here because it was a x-word word.
A little more riyaz and your playing will come alive a little bit more, more focus on expression and articulation on the left hand some of your notes were painfully flat as well
more riyaz, then teach. you are saying correct things in the video but can't back them up with your playing yet.
western students wiLL have to teach the World, India's music. she is apathetic & lacks the Will.
theek se saaz milaao to pehle..? frst tune properly... playing later .....
I'm not 100% sure of the context, but I think he intentionally tuned to a western major scale in order to communicate more efficiently with the other students. It may technically be a distillation of the art, but I think it's useful in explaination. (To clarify I am a westerner who knows little of indian classical music, this is just an edicated geuss)
blabla
You Know there is more then just a down stroke. Don't stroke it like a bango. This is too mechanized. It lacks the warmth, suttle smoothness...