Cutting the engine for the horses was a class act - very admirable. On the other hand, tempting folks such as me with this particular bike is not so good. It's been a long time since a new bike made my pulse grow quicker.
Me and the wife have just got into motorcycles and are already big fans of your videos. We watched all your tour videos during lockdown haha. Keep up the good work!!
You have become my new go to motorcycle channel, especially for bike reviews. You review for the average rider in the real world. Unlike other channels that ride in exotic off road locations that the average person will never do.
Much as I love my GSA I am seriously considering one of these, I’ve never seen a bad review. Having had Triumph triples before I know how good they are too, test drive next year me thinks😀
I agree with your top five, an excellent bike which I rode for two hours or so a couple of months ago. It is definitely worth a road test if you have any interest in it. As I already have a bike I was not tempted myself but a worthy contender for anyone's money, as you say a lot of value there. An easy ride, and I think a relaxing ride. Thanks for the video.
I had always thought the quick shifter on anything other than a track bike was just a bit of marketing, until I had the chance to try one out with a pillion on the back and realized if I timed the “quick shift” in the right spots there was little or no snatch and jerk to upset the pillion ! So now I understand why they are becoming so popular on touring oriented bikes. 👍 (See, you can teach old dogs new tricks after all 🤪👍.)
Another triumph winner. Get the feeling the GS has serious competition! Definitely looking for next bike to be a triumph. T120 a speed twin or this one ???? If only I could one of each. Nice to see you in the saddle , a comfy one at that, again.
The joy this bike brings to your riding is clear ..Anytime you find yourself throwing a bike down a new track because it's there with a smile on your face : You know it's a good fit .I would love to see a shaft drive on this bike. :)
Very good review Andy. I have had a GT Pro for 2 months now. The only issue I have is on the motorway. There is good usable power but vibration at higher revs. I come from a street triple. Having said that at the first service I borrowed a street and found it so uncomfortable! It’s funny what you get used to...
On the motorway in road mode I found there was little difference between the GT Pro and my 1050 Sport.. but.. if its in sport mode on the motorway I noticed significant vibration in the bars..
So tempted with every Tiger 900 video I see. I am going to get a test ride soon, or when I can get a spare day off. Also TMF, I would love to see the review for the Goretex jacket now that summer is here. I have yet to find a decent, protective jacket that doesn't feel like you are wearing a couple of bin liners on a hot day.
Seeing you wearing that gear, I now realise that it must've been you enthusiastically nodding at me near Chequers soon after lockdown was eased. If I was in the market for that type of bike, it would definitely be one to try.
Mid-sized, we need more lower CC bikes, but with big bike features, 400cc-600cc with shaft drive for commuters or long distance. Just as an example. I ride every day for work, I don’t need or want a 1200cc bike, but I would appreciate not cleaning the chain each week. Just the little things. 900cc is not mid-sized, the original fire blade was 900cc.
Thought about a maxi scoot? Not for everyone I know. But the BMW ones have lots of big bike features, heated grips/seat, decent storage a bonus for commuting gear.
Hi tmf I got tiger gt Pro in red well pleased I've spent the last two days looking at it in the garage when I come home from work im out the weekend on a ride out to Shropshire thanks tony
Great review Andy 👏👏👏 I’m booked for test ride of GT and rally version. Love the look of rally in green and spokes but not sure how 21” front will feel on the road. Please ask Triumph to give us green and 19” spoke tubeless on GT version (optional extras obviously). I’m not the only one who wants that 😆😆😆
Great review once again - Ive just bought a Tiger 900 and agree completely with your comments. Great price for a top of the range bike and the quick shifter is easily the best ive owned too . It really is a cracking all rounder ! The white and black look great - not sure about the red though - but thats personal choice i guess
Loved this video mate. Always check out your current offerings. Would love you to review the current 1050 sport. The front end may be a bit utilitarian and needs a handsome makeover but I think the extra bit of power may just make it my next bike. Currently still in love with a custom Yamaha TDM 900.
Been riding my Rally Pro for a month and I do agree with every point you've mentioned. Another great improvement is the thermal management. The cooler temp is very stable no matter how hot/cold it is outside. And, no more hot air flow to my knees (I'd owned a Tiger 800 back in the days). As for the wind protection... well... the bike has got some but in no way it compares to the 1200's :) The suspension (The Rally Pro's got Showa on the both ends) is more solid and progressive than the WP used to be. The quickshifter is just a bit rougher compared to BMW's 4-cyl inlines but works perfectly overall.
Well made video, Andy. I'm still curious to know, though, about its 1) highway performance and comfort, and 2) how its crank throws are arranged, and 3) how its exhaust sounds as it passes.
I went into a shop to buy a shirt; nice, decent price. However, when I went to pay I was charged extra for the shirt to be shipped to the shop. “What” says I, “that’s ridiculous!” Then the cashier said she’d also have to add a substantial fee for unpacking the shirt and putting it on display. “What” says I again, “that’s ridiculous!” Then, just when I was taking my credit card out, the cashier said, “of course nobody wants the buttons it comes with, they’re really not any good but lucky for you, for a price, better buttons could be bought but of course there’s a significant charge to sew them on, and oh yes, the colour you’ve picked costs more so let’s see, that comes to . . . “ “What” says I, yet again, “that’s ridiculous!”
Walter Wilkins You’re buying your shirts from the wrong places! Bikes are priced with options because some people want them and some don’t. As long as pricing is transparent I see no problem with that.
Max Flight. Unlike purchasing most items (like a shirt) buying a base model off the showroom floor, at least in North America, still requires paying exorbitant shipping and set-up fees. Add to that the sales ploy of parts and accessory configuration. For example, go to any Triumph website to build “your bike” which is basically paying a manufacturer to first sell you parts that are removed then selling more parts that one pays to have replaced. The value of the original parts is often a total loss. I’ve purchased three new bikes in the last dozen years and a couple of almost unused “pre-owned” bikes. In my case, there’s no doubt buying the used bikes was, by far, the better value. And by far, when I sold my fully farkled reconfigured new bikes, the buyers got a great deal - me, not so much. So, whining aside, I’m just tired of the new bike purchase game where one walks in with a legitimate MSRP price in mind and rides out wondering what the hell happened to the MSRP. Maybe it’s just me being a grumpy ol’fart, but on principle I won’t buy another new motorcycle, I’ll wait for a year or two and buy the bike after someone has configured it as both the rider and the manufacturer themselves would have it on the road. Good discussion thread though, I’d love to know where my thinking is wrong - take care, be safe!
Walter Wilkins Hi Walter. I guess the point is you work out the price for what you want and if you are happy with it, you pay it. If not you walk away from the deal. Triumph made less than £240 per bike they sold last year. Hardly a rip off!
@@UncleWally3 Not sure about North America, but here is Aus (and I believe in the UK as well) you pay the advertised price, without extras for shipping etc. Obviously if you have the guile for negotiation you will get a bit off the top as well, especially if you have ordered accessories with the bike.
Bruce got rid of Helga, Ryan is looking to shed his GS for a Tenere 700... should we expect to see an exchange on your part, as well? Great video, as always, Andy.
Enjoyed the review as ever TMF, looks a great bike. Basic model at £9500 looks very good value to me. Having had all the bells and whistles I'm not sure they make that much difference to the experience IMO.
Nicely done TMF. I bought a Tiger 800 a few months ago and 'think' I prefer it's looks to the 900. The engine sound of the 900 isn't the triple whistle I love, it's maybe a grower. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the token screen.
So Andy: F900 vs Tiger 900 vs Vstrom? Which would you rate as the best bike to own for fun, touring and commuting? They are all on my radar. Cheers for another great vid🤘
Quite the glowing review. It does look like a nice bike. Off the subject a bit, was that a GoPro 7 or 8 mounted to the wind screen? Looked like the screen was vibrating a fair amount but the image stabalization worked well.
Am going to change my bike this year and have narrowed it down to 3, Tiger 900 Rallye Pro, BMW F850GSA Sport and base model BMW R1250 GS (with heated grips:-) ). Which would you choose?
Honda's DCT has got all of these licked (when it's in manual mode for a direct comparison), but I don't doubt that triumph have one of the best quick shifters out there.
@John Lightfoot I had a tmax for the day, being 6'2" might have impacted this but I found the "lumber" support in the seat gave me a really dead arse. I think my legs are too long so it pushed me in to it too much. Nice scooter though, just wish it was a bench style seat.
@@SuperchargedLlama I'm 6"3 and agree. None of the big Honda or Yamaha scooters are any good for tall people. On the Honda adv 750, the handlebars hit my knees when you go towards full lock. Maybe the BMW 650's are better.
The Tiger 900 GT is very tempting. Its an expensive bike in Canada. Because of Covid-19, Triumph should offer a 1000$ reduction, a free set of aluminium sides cases & 0 % financial buying rate to motivate me to buy one this summer! If they do, i would buy one! I cannot consider the GT Pro because its really over my budget. I will maybe wait in 2021 for the hopefully improved & upgraded V-Strom 650/700 XT.
The trepidation when a few little puddles appeared in front of your “adventure” bike had me chuckling I must admit. Lovely bike. Enjoy your videos very much, especially the interviews.
Do the Triumph Tiger adventure day in Wales Andy, that will show you exactly what these bikes can do. We use 10% of the capability on the road. "We are taking the bike up there??" was the most commonly heard phrase from me on that day but I can highly recommend it as it gives you huge confidence when you take these bikes on the road. I am sure you could wangle a free day
@@TheMissendenFlyer Shame, I am in no way an off roader myself but as a lesson in what the Tigers are capable of it is is invaluable and it has definitely made me a better on road rider as a result. That was my express intention when taking the course and I definitely achieved that. You definitely won't lift your skirts at some puddles and ruts. No offence :)
Question about your helmet. What are its benefits compared to a normal full-face helmet? Is it just styling? And what are its drawbacks? How noticeable are they?
Adventure Helmets allow you to wear Motocross Goggles which is handy if you are riding off road especially when hot.. You can also pull the visor down when it's wet. The peak keeps the sun out of your eyes. Typically they ventilate really well as well. Disadvantages are they are noisy on the road and the peak and styling means they aren't as aerodynamically efficient as a regular helmet so your head might get knocked around a bit.
Thank you for posting. Sounds like the Tiger continues to impress. I currently have two bikes in my stable. Thinking of selling one and getting one. Just can't seem to find one I really like. I did come across images of the Aprila rs660. It is gorgeous. If you happen get your hands on that one and do a review, it would be greatly appreciated. It is a sporty 100 hp parallel twin aimed at the Ducati Supersport V2 (also a beautiful bike). If you get the Aprilia and review it, I will owe you a pint (or two) of beer (not budweiser, Coors or Miller, when you visit Colorado. :) Looks like many folks are turning to lower power bikes these days.
another great review Andy well done my friend. Can i ask you aquestion ? i got the Tiger 800 XRT a couple of years back which i love and ive just ordered an RE interceptor. Im pondering a lift to raise the bikes to clean and maintain them long term. Any recommendations on what type of lift. many thanks Tony
@@TheMissendenFlyer no worries i will feed back what i decide safe riding my friend T can i add andy if your headed up to Scotland in the future were in the Scottish borders and your very welcome to pop in and have a stop over. enjoyed your videos. Tony
This looks Like a really good bike. Looking at potential options for when i change my bike next year (if i change it, im such. GSA fanboy😂). Will add this to my list! Also looking forward to your ongoing feedback on the Dane jacket. 👍🏻
I really need to have a go on one of these it seems, my quibbles with the previous iteration seem to have been addressed. Good review and thank you for the addition of the kit summary, that's a nice touch. The footage from the Hero 8 is mega as well, so stable given its perch. How come you're on your 3rd X4 lid?
TMF, thanks for your usual quality review. The problem with the old one was that it was excessively hot, it toasted the pillions feet. It was so hot my wife refused to be a pillion on it and I brought the Tracer GT instead (a great bike). Does this suffer with the same issues?.
Great review, and while the bike is obviously great for a single rider, I’m keen to know how effective it is with a pillion and panniers, for those of us who do a lot of 2 up touring. Does the GS still have a substantial advantage here? Thanks!
Nice bike. But...what were Triumph thinking when they decided not to have a dedicated OEM luggage system made for the 900? The GIVI solutions make the bike wide as a lorry. Not good if you want to use the 900 for daily transport.
Yep, I need to go ride one. It might be a while before I get around to it though. COVID here in Texas is all out of hand. It could well be this time next year of later before it is safe to be out and about again. In the UK you guys might have hated the more struck lockdown and limitations still in place. We barely had a lockdown, starting late and ending early, and are now paying the price for that error.
Yes I fear (if our news coverage is to believed) the US, particularly in some states, has a way to go yet with the dreaded COVID - so sorry you guys are having to face this (we got it wrong here too plainly...). Wishing you and your fellow country mates all the best Bill...stay safe....
TMF....do you recall if you found the handlebar too wide and too far forward? I took one for a ride and the bar was a bit too far forward and wider than my Vstrom 650. It didn’t stop me from putting down a deposit on the bike though.
Nice kit you're wearing Andy. Why have you attached an old skool portable TV to your head?! That angle makes the camera look rather large. A tad comical looking! 😉
It all sounds very nice. I’m curious about the things you don’t like. I think one of them is fuel consumption; most Triumphs are a bit more thirsty than equal sorts of bikes. Sunglasses and a dark visor. Very much forbidden in my country when used together. Don’t forget to put hip protectors in your trousers. When your pelvis brakes you will loose a lot of blood very quickly.
@@TheMissendenFlyer ok thx, never noticed it before (only have seen your Tour X4 like in your old intro) . Recently I have visit Arai Europe and have seen their test setups. I'm really convinced about their philosophy now and I'm looking for a X4 now. Love the design of your helmet.
I was equally impressed with the front camera mount which looked to be a suction job. Ever had it bale out over the bumps? Incidentally I have changed my user name from Mick Bean so you know who I am LOL!!
I prefer the Triumph, got some proper good character where are the BMW is almost too perfect in that smooth germanic way - plus the 850GSA is very heavy to move around, more so than my 1200GS due the high COG. The BMW has a better TFT and arguably looks, bit to me the Triumph is the better bike.....quite close though.
Looks like Triumph have produced a fantastic bike £12800 sounds like a great price point for range topping fully specked bike. Will 2021 be the year that the GS is replaced by a Tiger 900 ? ?
I see a lot of people complaining about the phone pairing to the TFT. Have you tested that yet? Very interested in one of these 900s. The 800 is a great bike👍
With the video's and info you have given on this bike Flyer, it's very impressive and I like it. It doesn't half make you think, do we need all our GSADVENTUREPIKESPEAK1290SUPERADVENTURE£20000 machines?! This bike you have here, has everything they have except 1000 horses! and as you have pointed out before and, I realise it you don't need that much power. Very impressed matey, that's a nice bike and great value. Thanks, I'm agonising over a possibility of changing from the BM, it'll cost less to do everything, can't grumble.
Another top review tmf, as you creep up on late 50 s , having a lighter bike makes a lot of sense. 12.8k +luggage ==14k+, too much , but std one all in for 11k sounds a deal but not seen what extras are missing on that. Now that we are seemingly flying the great British flag , can see you getting one of these,even if it is a thaimph. 😬
Great vid and a cracking bike. I’d have that over a GS any day, especially for 1-up. Off road in UK, you’ll be pulling 30-40hp no matter what you ride. What happened to your ‘willing pillion’? Is she washing your kit again? 😉😂😂👍
Great bike, but I think I’d get bored with it after awhile; unlike the new Speed Twin, which is really exciting in my opinion. That roaring motorcycle up ahead of you sounded good.
I really don't think you'd get bored with this - it is the most fun of the adventure bikes I've yet ridden in terms of go and handling at real world legal road speeds....
Hey Andy, Have you ever tried/tested any Single Lair Denims from Bull-it? 🤔 Great vid as always mate...Although still a little in shock with your £700 jacket!!! 😂
OK, watched you vids for a good while and been a member for a (well, wife would say since birth, but for you a couple months!), but serious question time. What's your perceived advantage of having a peaked helmet? Never seen the attraction myself, but you've mentioned on a couple of occasions but I've never understood why. Appreciate your insight as always...
Well first it looks cool of course and that's very important, but also in summer the peak is great for keeping the sun out of your eyes (also the low sun in Spring/Autumn) + this style of helmet tends to have a larger aperture than standard full face helmets so visibility is superior I find...no disadvantages either really....
I prefer the Triumph, got some proper good character where are the BMW is almost too perfect in that smooth germanic way - plus the 850GSA is very heavy to move around, more so than my 1200GS due the high COG. The BMW has a better TFT and arguably looks, bit to me the Triumph is the better bike.....quite close though.
I sat on the Rally pro model and found it way too tall for my 5ft 8inch build. How did the GT Pro feel regarding this being as we appear to be around the same height ?
Cutting the engine for the horses was a class act - very admirable. On the other hand, tempting folks such as me with this particular bike is not so good. It's been a long time since a new bike made my pulse grow quicker.
Daniel Graham agreed, class act, well done TMF 😎
Defiantly a class act sir. Thanks for the comments on the Helmet, saw your 2014 review on the X4 and was wondering how they turned out tx
Me and the wife have just got into motorcycles and are already big fans of your videos. We watched all your tour videos during lockdown haha. Keep up the good work!!
Brill - welcome along!
You have become my new go to motorcycle channel, especially for bike reviews. You review for the average rider in the real world. Unlike other channels that ride in exotic off road locations that the average person will never do.
Thank you Toast 7070 - that is my intention with my reviews (and why I turn down invites to bike launches) - appreciate the kind words!
New subscriber from the US. I find your channel to be informative, entertaining, and your message is to the point. Well done. Glad to be here.
Thank you - welcome along!
Much as I love my GSA I am seriously considering one of these, I’ve never seen a bad review. Having had Triumph triples before I know how good they are too, test drive next year me thinks😀
What happened? Did you get the Tiger?
This is the bike I've been waiting for. Thanks for the review Andy. Looking forward to the next one.
Stay tuned!
Great bike and review......and brilliant idea talking about your kit at the end of the videos!!!!!!
Thanks! 👍
I agree with your top five, an excellent bike which I rode for two hours or so a couple of months ago. It is definitely worth a road test if you have any interest in it. As I already have a bike I was not tempted myself but a worthy contender for anyone's money, as you say a lot of value there. An easy ride, and I think a relaxing ride. Thanks for the video.
I got my new tiger last week and I'm well pleased every thing you said was my opinion as well thanks tony
Congratulations Tony - which model did you get?
Anthony Stanley thanks Tony? I thought his name was Andy :)
Great show as always, thank you.
Usually you put the engine of Triumph bikes on #1, so that's an interesting statement. 😎
Good review thanks Andy. I hope to get a demo ride on the Tiger 900 soon. Looking forwards to further reviews
Seems like a beauty. I haven't watched or read a negative review yet. Triumph has really been on a roll lately.
I agree....
I had always thought the quick shifter on anything other than a track bike was just a bit of marketing, until I had the chance to try one out with a pillion on the back and realized if I timed the “quick shift” in the right spots there was little or no snatch and jerk to upset the pillion ! So now I understand why they are becoming so popular on touring oriented bikes. 👍 (See, you can teach old dogs new tricks after all 🤪👍.)
Another triumph winner. Get the feeling the GS has serious competition! Definitely looking for next bike to be a triumph. T120 a speed twin or this one ???? If only I could one of each. Nice to see you in the saddle , a comfy one at that, again.
The joy this bike brings to your riding is clear ..Anytime you find yourself throwing a bike down a new track because it's there with a smile on your face : You know it's a good fit .I would love to see a shaft drive on this bike. :)
@TriplePlay I has a 79 R 80 and it was fine with a shaft drive :)
It does sound great! Thanks for the video, Andy, I enjoyed it!
My pleasure!
Very good review Andy. I have had a GT Pro for 2 months now. The only issue I have is on the motorway. There is good usable power but vibration at higher revs. I come from a street triple. Having said that at the first service I borrowed a street and found it so uncomfortable! It’s funny what you get used to...
I rode a Rally Pro for a 1-hour test only. When I took my Bonnie T100 back to go home... I felt pain in my backbone!
On the motorway in road mode I found there was little difference between the GT Pro and my 1050 Sport.. but.. if its in sport mode on the motorway I noticed significant vibration in the bars..
Loving the GT900 its a bike I'm really interested in. Great review so far mate
So tempted with every Tiger 900 video I see. I am going to get a test ride soon, or when I can get a spare day off.
Also TMF, I would love to see the review for the Goretex jacket now that summer is here. I have yet to find a decent, protective jacket that doesn't feel like you are wearing a couple of bin liners on a hot day.
Yes this Dane jacket is a winner - if eye wateringly expensive....but it's the only jacket you need.
Seeing you wearing that gear, I now realise that it must've been you enthusiastically nodding at me near Chequers soon after lockdown was eased. If I was in the market for that type of bike, it would definitely be one to try.
Indeed it was!
Mid-sized, we need more lower CC bikes, but with big bike features, 400cc-600cc with shaft drive for commuters or long distance. Just as an example. I ride every day for work, I don’t need or want a 1200cc bike, but I would appreciate not cleaning the chain each week. Just the little things. 900cc is not mid-sized, the original fire blade was 900cc.
And the first Godwing ever was 999cc with shaft.
www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Honda/honda_gl1000.htm
A used 1200RS would make a very good commuter. High MPG and no chain. 200 mile range isn't an issue.
Thought about a maxi scoot? Not for everyone I know. But the BMW ones have lots of big bike features, heated grips/seat, decent storage a bonus for commuting gear.
timmo3351 I like the control of the clutch to be honest. As much as the big scooters do their job. Also so those big scooters are very expensive.
Hi tmf I got tiger gt Pro in red well pleased I've spent the last two days looking at it in the garage when I come home from work im out the weekend on a ride out to Shropshire thanks tony
Enjoy it - congratulations....
Where did you get yours... Staffordshire Triumph?
Great review Andy 👏👏👏 I’m booked for test ride of GT and rally version. Love the look of rally in green and spokes but not sure how 21” front will feel on the road. Please ask Triumph to give us green and 19” spoke tubeless on GT version (optional extras obviously). I’m not the only one who wants that 😆😆😆
Yes! That would make the decision on the GT pro a no brainer indeed!
Great review once again - Ive just bought a Tiger 900 and agree completely with your comments. Great price for a top of the range bike and the quick shifter is easily the best ive owned too . It really is a cracking all rounder ! The white and black look great - not sure about the red though - but thats personal choice i guess
Glad we concur!
Great vid TMF,
I was talked out of buying the Arai Tour4 by a mate who said the buffering at speed was terrible 🤔
went with a qv pro in the end.
Never heard of the QV Pro - I get no buffet on my X4 and I'm on my 3rd....
Loved this video mate. Always check out your current offerings. Would love you to review the current 1050 sport. The front end may be a bit utilitarian and needs a handsome makeover but I think the extra bit of power may just make it my next bike. Currently still in love with a custom Yamaha TDM 900.
Sounds like a great bike especially at that price. .....The image stability from the GoPro on the front screen is impressive mind.
It really is!
I like the higher angle you used looking back at you in this video 😎
Thanks for the kit review very useful. Hope those horse riders thanked you. Nice work stopping and turning engine off very considerate
Gave me a chance to check out the riders ;0)
TheMissendenFlyer 😀😉
Been riding my Rally Pro for a month and I do agree with every point you've mentioned. Another great improvement is the thermal management. The cooler temp is very stable no matter how hot/cold it is outside. And, no more hot air flow to my knees (I'd owned a Tiger 800 back in the days).
As for the wind protection... well... the bike has got some but in no way it compares to the 1200's :)
The suspension (The Rally Pro's got Showa on the both ends) is more solid and progressive than the WP used to be.
The quickshifter is just a bit rougher compared to BMW's 4-cyl inlines but works perfectly overall.
Well made video, Andy. I'm still curious to know, though, about its
1) highway performance and comfort, and 2) how its crank throws are arranged, and 3) how its exhaust sounds as it passes.
Stay tuned - more to come on this bike!
I went into a shop to buy a shirt; nice, decent price. However, when I went to pay I was charged extra for the shirt to be shipped to the shop. “What” says I, “that’s ridiculous!” Then the cashier said she’d also have to add a substantial fee for unpacking the shirt and putting it on display. “What” says I again, “that’s ridiculous!” Then, just when I was taking my credit card out, the cashier said, “of course nobody wants the buttons it comes with, they’re really not any good but lucky for you, for a price, better buttons could be bought but of course there’s a significant charge to sew them on, and oh yes, the colour you’ve picked costs more so let’s see, that comes to . . . “
“What” says I, yet again, “that’s ridiculous!”
Walter Wilkins You’re buying your shirts from the wrong places! Bikes are priced with options because some people want them and some don’t. As long as pricing is transparent I see no problem with that.
Max Flight. Unlike purchasing most items (like a shirt) buying a base model off the showroom floor, at least in North America, still requires paying exorbitant shipping and set-up fees. Add to that the sales ploy of parts and accessory configuration. For example, go to any Triumph website to build “your bike” which is basically paying a manufacturer to first sell you parts that are removed then selling more parts that one pays to have replaced. The value of the original parts is often a total loss.
I’ve purchased three new bikes in the last dozen years and a couple of almost unused “pre-owned” bikes. In my case, there’s no doubt buying the used bikes was, by far, the better value. And by far, when I sold my fully farkled reconfigured new bikes, the buyers got a great deal - me, not so much. So, whining aside, I’m just tired of the new bike purchase game where one walks in with a legitimate MSRP price in mind and rides out wondering what the hell happened to the MSRP. Maybe it’s just me being a grumpy ol’fart, but on principle I won’t buy another new motorcycle, I’ll wait for a year or two and buy the bike after someone has configured it as both the rider and the manufacturer themselves would have it on the road.
Good discussion thread though, I’d love to know where my thinking is wrong - take care, be safe!
Walter Wilkins Hi Walter. I guess the point is you work out the price for what you want and if you are happy with it, you pay it. If not you walk away from the deal. Triumph made less than £240 per bike they sold last year. Hardly a rip off!
@@UncleWally3 Not sure about North America, but here is Aus (and I believe in the UK as well) you pay the advertised price, without extras for shipping etc. Obviously if you have the guile for negotiation you will get a bit off the top as well, especially if you have ordered accessories with the bike.
Bruce got rid of Helga, Ryan is looking to shed his GS for a Tenere 700... should we expect to see an exchange on your part, as well? Great video, as always, Andy.
Stitch Bruce. Who’s that?
Stay tuned!
@@Cuzzazbuzz teapot one
Great vid. Test riding one of these next week. Cannot wait. 😁
Have fun!
I would love one of these, just about perfect for me. Of course by the time I can afford it we will be another 5 models along 😂
Excellent break down as usual. Thank you, sir!
Much appreciated!
Triumph has certainly done themselves proud with this 900 series.Cheers.
I agree Bruce - one of the better bikes I’ve ridden in the last couple of years...
Enjoyed the review as ever TMF, looks a great bike. Basic model at £9500 looks very good value to me.
Having had all the bells and whistles I'm not sure they make that much difference to the experience IMO.
I couldn't agree more - at £9500 the basic bike is a steal and would be a pleasure to own and ride...
Nicely done TMF. I bought a Tiger 800 a few months ago and 'think' I prefer it's looks to the 900. The engine sound of the 900 isn't the triple whistle I love, it's maybe a grower. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the token screen.
So Andy: F900 vs Tiger 900 vs Vstrom? Which would you rate as the best bike to own for fun, touring and commuting? They are all on my radar. Cheers for another great vid🤘
I'd have the Tiger 900 personally
@@TheMissendenFlyer From seeing reviews that is what I'm thinking too... If only I could afford one right now!!
That's a bike I would like to own, great price too. Fit, finish and looks would also be high on my list. Thanks for the review.
No problem 👍
Great review my friend. Triumph have definitely got it right with the tiger series.
Fantastic as usual Andy 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you! Cheers!
Fantastic review looks a lovely bike. Also TMF will you be reviewing the vstrom 1050 as your one one the 1000 was a cracking review
We shall see
Quite the glowing review. It does look like a nice bike. Off the subject a bit, was that a GoPro 7 or 8 mounted to the wind screen? Looked like the screen was vibrating a fair amount but the image stabalization worked well.
It was the GP8 on the screen - amazing bit of tech that stabilization isn't it....
Like it.
But tubeless spokes make it perfect I think.
And great prices too.
Happy travels
Am going to change my bike this year and have narrowed it down to 3, Tiger 900 Rallye Pro, BMW F850GSA Sport and base model BMW R1250 GS (with heated grips:-) ). Which would you choose?
Wait for my next video on this bike for that answer!
When did 900cc become small ? Day after the 2500cc rocket3 came out
The best quick shifter ever is on my Yamaha Tmax.
XD
Congrats! Too bad its a scooter, not a motorcycle.
Honda's DCT has got all of these licked (when it's in manual mode for a direct comparison), but I don't doubt that triumph have one of the best quick shifters out there.
@John Lightfoot I had a tmax for the day, being 6'2" might have impacted this but I found the "lumber" support in the seat gave me a really dead arse. I think my legs are too long so it pushed me in to it too much. Nice scooter though, just wish it was a bench style seat.
@@SuperchargedLlama I'm 6"3 and agree. None of the big Honda or Yamaha scooters are any good for tall people. On the Honda adv 750, the handlebars hit my knees when you go towards full lock. Maybe the BMW 650's are better.
The road going variants of the new Tiger 900 do look tempting to me.
900cc and near 100 bhp is plenty for the road !
Agreed!
The Tiger 900 GT is very tempting. Its an expensive bike in Canada. Because of Covid-19, Triumph should offer a 1000$ reduction, a free set of aluminium sides cases & 0 % financial buying rate to motivate me to buy one this summer! If they do, i would buy one!
I cannot consider the GT Pro because its really over my budget.
I will maybe wait in 2021 for the hopefully improved & upgraded V-Strom 650/700 XT.
The trepidation when a few little puddles appeared in front of your “adventure” bike had me chuckling I must admit. Lovely bike. Enjoy your videos very much, especially the interviews.
Do the Triumph Tiger adventure day in Wales Andy, that will show you exactly what these bikes can do. We use 10% of the capability on the road.
"We are taking the bike up there??" was the most commonly heard phrase from me on that day but I can highly recommend it as it gives you huge confidence when you take these bikes on the road.
I am sure you could wangle a free day
They have offered - not really interested in off-road on big bikes.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Shame, I am in no way an off roader myself but as a lesson in what the Tigers are capable of it is is invaluable and it has definitely made me a better on road rider as a result.
That was my express intention when taking the course and I definitely achieved that.
You definitely won't lift your skirts at some puddles and ruts. No offence :)
Question about your helmet. What are its benefits compared to a normal full-face helmet? Is it just styling? And what are its drawbacks? How noticeable are they?
Adventure Helmets allow you to wear Motocross Goggles which is handy if you are riding off road especially when hot.. You can also pull the visor down when it's wet. The peak keeps the sun out of your eyes. Typically they ventilate really well as well. Disadvantages are they are noisy on the road and the peak and styling means they aren't as aerodynamically efficient as a regular helmet so your head might get knocked around a bit.
Checkout my Arai Tour X4 review from yonks ago....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Will do, thanks.
Thank you for posting. Sounds like the Tiger continues to impress. I currently have two bikes in my stable. Thinking of selling one and getting one. Just can't seem to find one I really like. I did come across images of the Aprila rs660. It is gorgeous. If you happen get your hands on that one and do a review, it would be greatly appreciated. It is a sporty 100 hp parallel twin aimed at the Ducati Supersport V2 (also a beautiful bike). If you get the Aprilia and review it, I will owe you a pint (or two) of beer (not budweiser, Coors or Miller, when you visit Colorado. :) Looks like many folks are turning to lower power bikes these days.
Yes makes sense to me....thanks for watching and stopping by, always good to hear from you....
another great review Andy well done my friend. Can i ask you aquestion ? i got the Tiger 800 XRT a couple of years back which i love and ive just ordered an RE interceptor. Im pondering a lift to raise the bikes to clean and maintain them long term. Any recommendations on what type of lift. many thanks Tony
I don't have any experience of them sorry....
@@TheMissendenFlyer no worries i will feed back what i decide safe riding my friend T
can i add andy if your headed up to Scotland in the future were in the Scottish borders and your very welcome to pop in and have a stop over. enjoyed your videos. Tony
This looks Like a really good bike. Looking at potential options for when i change my bike next year (if i change it, im such. GSA fanboy😂). Will add this to my list!
Also looking forward to your ongoing feedback on the Dane jacket. 👍🏻
Stay tuned!
I really need to have a go on one of these it seems, my quibbles with the previous iteration seem to have been addressed.
Good review and thank you for the addition of the kit summary, that's a nice touch. The footage from the Hero 8 is mega as well, so stable given its perch.
How come you're on your 3rd X4 lid?
Well my first one I had for over 5 years so technically needed to replace it and I bought a further one for Mrs Flyer as I'm such a fan of them.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer ahhhh so not 3 for yourself, gotcha.
TMF another great video!!! Which would you choose between the Tiger or the GS?
I have a video on that subject coming soon! Stay tuned....
Great review as usual TMF. Curious, does the peaked helmet do anything for you on the streets? Just a style thing?
Keeps the low sun out of your eyes when touring...
TMF, thanks for your usual quality review. The problem with the old one was that it was excessively hot, it toasted the pillions feet. It was so hot my wife refused to be a pillion on it and I brought the Tracer GT instead (a great bike). Does this suffer with the same issues?.
Nope! Pillion view coming soon!
Wow, that looks like a great bike. I’m the same height as you, can you flat foot the ground? Great video yet again!
Yes I can!
Great review, and while the bike is obviously great for a single rider, I’m keen to know how effective it is with a pillion and panniers, for those of us who do a lot of 2 up touring. Does the GS still have a substantial advantage here? Thanks!
Video on that subject coming soon!
TheMissendenFlyer Thank you👍. Greetings from Perth, Australia🙂.
Please make a comparison video of this bike with the BMW F850GS, KTM 790 Adventure and Honda Africa Twin.
the way you tell makes me know you really comfortable on it
Good video TMF. I really like the GT Pro
Nice review. Can I ask what jacket you have on I like that. Thanks
If you watch the end of the video I tell you all about it...
Nice bike. But...what were Triumph thinking when they decided not to have a dedicated OEM luggage system made for the 900? The GIVI solutions make the bike wide as a lorry. Not good if you want to use the 900 for daily transport.
Fair point!
Thanks for another great video Sir. Was the Tiger made in Thailand? Love the beautiful blue helmet!.....Sal : )
I believe so
Nice video, thanks for all the info👍👍
Great video - Do you prefer the Tiger to the Multistrada 950s?
Tiger....
Yep, I need to go ride one. It might be a while before I get around to it though. COVID here in Texas is all out of hand. It could well be this time next year of later before it is safe to be out and about again. In the UK you guys might have hated the more struck lockdown and limitations still in place. We barely had a lockdown, starting late and ending early, and are now paying the price for that error.
Yes I fear (if our news coverage is to believed) the US, particularly in some states, has a way to go yet with the dreaded COVID - so sorry you guys are having to face this (we got it wrong here too plainly...). Wishing you and your fellow country mates all the best Bill...stay safe....
TMF....do you recall if you found the handlebar too wide and too far forward? I took one for a ride and the bar was a bit too far forward and wider than my Vstrom 650. It didn’t stop me from putting down a deposit on the bike though.
No I found it perfectly positioned - felt just like my GS!
Thank you sir. We are about the same size so I wanted to to get your take and ensure it was just my preferences and nothing more.
Hmmm... Now I'm stuck between this and the F900 XR TE. What's your personal opinion on what you would go for, please, Andy?
Personally I prefer the Triumph but both great bikes and you wouldn't regret having either for a moment - go with the one you like the look of most!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Brilliant, thank you. I appreciate the response!
Nice kit you're wearing Andy.
Why have you attached an old skool portable TV to your head?!
That angle makes the camera look rather large. A tad comical looking! 😉
It all sounds very nice. I’m curious about the things you don’t like. I think one of them is fuel consumption; most Triumphs are a bit more thirsty than equal sorts of bikes.
Sunglasses and a dark visor. Very much forbidden in my country when used together.
Don’t forget to put hip protectors in your trousers. When your pelvis brakes you will loose a lot of blood very quickly.
Ooh crikey! Having a bad day by chance Palantir135?? You're not normally quite this negative!!!!
TheMissendenFlyer I had a few sleepless nights 😇
Oxford jeans you can go to the pub in, what’s a pub?
are you getting one Mr? If yes, I will buy it!! If no, I am going for a GS
Stay tuned on that subject!
Nice review, thanks. By the way I love your helmet, new?
No - I've had it about a year or so at least - a replacement for my older Tour X4 - deets at the end of the video in my "fashion segment"
@@TheMissendenFlyer ok thx, never noticed it before (only have seen your Tour X4 like in your old intro) . Recently I have visit Arai Europe and have seen their test setups. I'm really convinced about their philosophy now and I'm looking for a X4 now. Love the design of your helmet.
The horses were intimidated by the tiger...😂😂😂as always love your review...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
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TheMissendenFlyer you’re such a gentleman for turning off the engine...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🤜🤛
I could see you trading in the GS on this one!
Stay tuned for a comparison soon!
I was equally impressed with the front camera mount which looked to be a suction job. Ever had it bale out over the bumps?
Incidentally I have changed my user name from Mick Bean so you know who I am LOL!!
Cheers Mick - and yes - I lost the camera once.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Methinks a safety cord next time!!
Any chance you can get hold of a Honda CB1100 RS and review it as I would love your opinion before I buy?
I'd love a go I must admit - so many bikes, so little time!
Great review, how would you rate the bike against a BMW 850 GSA for all round performance? Cheers Rich
I prefer the Triumph, got some proper good character where are the BMW is almost too perfect in that smooth germanic way - plus the 850GSA is very heavy to move around, more so than my 1200GS due the high COG. The BMW has a better TFT and arguably looks, bit to me the Triumph is the better bike.....quite close though.
How have you not done a Ninja 400 in depth review yet!?
Kawasaki's are difficult for me to get hold of unfortunately....
Looks like Triumph have produced a fantastic bike
£12800 sounds like a great price point for range topping fully specked bike.
Will 2021 be the year that the GS is replaced by a Tiger 900 ? ?
Video comparison coming between the bikes soon - stay tuned!
I see a lot of people complaining about the phone pairing to the TFT. Have you tested that yet? Very interested in one of these 900s. The 800 is a great bike👍
Yes I did - a PITA and gave up in the end...more on that next video!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thats a pity. They might sort it out before I buy one. Nothing worse than Tec that doesn't work. It drives me mad 😖
Have they sorted out the sidestand ? My Tiger 800 needed careful parking as it tended to roll off the sidestand very easily
Didn't notice a problem...
Never park on the side stand without putting in the 1st gear
With the video's and info you have given on this bike Flyer, it's very impressive and I like it. It doesn't half make you think, do we need all our GSADVENTUREPIKESPEAK1290SUPERADVENTURE£20000 machines?! This bike you have here, has everything they have except 1000 horses! and as you have pointed out before and, I realise it you don't need that much power. Very impressed matey, that's a nice bike and great value. Thanks, I'm agonising over a possibility of changing from the BM, it'll cost less to do everything, can't grumble.
I'll be publishing a comparison of this v the BMW soon, stay tuned for my verdict!
Another top review tmf, as you creep up on late 50 s , having a lighter bike makes a lot of sense. 12.8k +luggage ==14k+, too much , but std one all in for 11k sounds a deal but not seen what extras are missing on that. Now that we are seemingly flying the great British flag , can see you getting one of these,even if it is a thaimph. 😬
Great vid and a cracking bike. I’d have that over a GS any day, especially for 1-up. Off road in UK, you’ll be pulling 30-40hp no matter what you ride. What happened to your ‘willing pillion’? Is she washing your kit again? 😉😂😂👍
Great bike, but I think I’d get bored with it after awhile; unlike the new Speed Twin, which is really exciting in my opinion. That roaring motorcycle up ahead of you sounded good.
I really don't think you'd get bored with this - it is the most fun of the adventure bikes I've yet ridden in terms of go and handling at real world legal road speeds....
TheMissendenFlyer - aha, i can see you trading your GS for a Tiger. What about the Mrs? Will she like being a pillion on that?
Hey Andy, Have you ever tried/tested any Single Lair Denims from Bull-it? 🤔
Great vid as always mate...Although still a little in shock with your £700 jacket!!! 😂
Not yet!
OK, watched you vids for a good while and been a member for a (well, wife would say since birth, but for you a couple months!), but serious question time. What's your perceived advantage of having a peaked helmet? Never seen the attraction myself, but you've mentioned on a couple of occasions but I've never understood why. Appreciate your insight as always...
Well first it looks cool of course and that's very important, but also in summer the peak is great for keeping the sun out of your eyes (also the low sun in Spring/Autumn) + this style of helmet tends to have a larger aperture than standard full face helmets so visibility is superior I find...no disadvantages either really....
Lovely job as always TMF.
Wish triumph would stop making such damn good bikes. My wallet can't keep up lol
Is that a new jacket and helmet Tmf .I really like the helmet. Thanks from Danny
Watch the end of the video - details there...
As an alternative to the 850 GS Adventure, how does this compare Andy?; can’t see be going back to Triumph though welcome your thoughts👌
I prefer the Triumph, got some proper good character where are the BMW is almost too perfect in that smooth germanic way - plus the 850GSA is very heavy to move around, more so than my 1200GS due the high COG. The BMW has a better TFT and arguably looks, bit to me the Triumph is the better bike.....quite close though.
Hey Mr Flyer - what do you do or did for your living before YT?
Various things - this and that....
Great video about the Triumph and the review of your motorcycle clothing.
Bye
Stuart 🙂
I sat on the Rally pro model and found it way too tall for my 5ft 8inch build. How did the GT Pro feel regarding this being as we appear to be around the same height ?
Felt great - perfect for me at 5’8”
you only went down that lane to get it muddy so you could clean it :P