I'm still running in a 2019 800 XRT. One of the main reasons I bought it was the triple engine. I love triples and I know lots of people do. It is silky smooth and sounds great. Plus no vibration to speak of. I find it difficult to believe that many of us take their £13K plus bikes offroad. I know I won't take on much more than the odd green lane. I bought the bike to downsize from a 1050 Tiger, which became too hard to manhandle around due to the onset of decrepitude. My point is that to change the character of the engine to suit offroad riding with the inherent increase in vibration and sounding like a twin seems like a strange way to go. Of course I haven't ridden the 900 yet. I've hardly ridden the 800 but it is brilliant. I love how it sounds and the total lack of vibrations. If I'd have wanted a twin I would have bought one.
That slight vibration in the hands makes a huge difference after hours of riding and hundreds of kilometers. That is exactly why I was considering to change my twin for a tripple. Now I have queations about this vibration thing, and u r not the only one to mention that.
Why a Triumph dealer yet haven´t given you a job proposal as a sales rep is beyond me! Your vids, especially this one, must make Triumph roll out countless Tiger GT Pro´s. Very well rounded and attentative review on this, which is 99% certain, will be the bike I will purchase come spring 2021. I will REALLY appreciate if you do a follow up on this particular bike for the 2021 model! Nice one, keep it up, I´m a subscriber, and that´s saying something, ´cos I don´t subscribe to many channels. All the best from a Norwegian ADV biker.
Great vid Chopsie and brilliant that Destination Triumph treat you so well, I spoke to Triumph UK today and they still can't get me a bike for several weeks! Really good to hear that engine, sounds great on the video but disappointed to hear the new firing order has made the engine more lumpy - as someone who doesn't take their adventure bike off road (and 99% of us don't as you said) it beats me why Triumph would change a brilliantly smooth engine ideally suited for the road, into something more suited for off-road given most people buy them for the road!! I get the vibes aren't excessive but I'll reserve judgement until I get to try one (I loved the old 800's smoothness and am a fan of Triumph Triples generally). Thank you for the early look, can't wait to have a go on one (eventually!!)....all the best mate and see you on Thursday.....oh no, wait I minute.. ;0)
Thanks TMF and great praise indeed coming from you sir! You really need to ride them back to back I guess to see the real difference, think of the KTM 790 and its more or less exactly how it feels!
@@LambChopRides Oh dear! I do hope they haven't spoiled it - really grew on me when I rode the 800 in Thailand and when I saw the Green and White Rally Pro 900 at the unveiling at Hinckley thought the new bike looked a winner....could be a potential GS replacement in future if it's OK with a pillion.....
THIS! I'm planning on buying a midrange Tiger, either the XRT or the GT. Right now, I'm leaning towards the XRT 800 - it'll probably cost $6-8000 less than the GT down here in Australia. Or maybe I'll just wait an extra year or two.
Marketing for the previous model: Triple engines are the best engine configuration, comprising the smoothness of a 4 with the grunt of a twin. Marketing for this model: It's a triple but we've made it less like a triple and more like a twin!
As an owner of a 2019 Tiger XCa my only regrets are the new tubeless rims but most importantly the easier access to air filter. The new styling doesn’t do anything for me at all. I bought this bike for off-roading and I’m quite certain I’ll never push the limits. In closing Triumph is a motorcycle company that brings “it” to market in all its models. Thanks for the ride along 👍🏼
Absolutely brilliant comprehensive review of what looks like a great bike. I have to say you did really well with the car pulling out in front of you. I think they might have learnt a few new words had it been me. Good job. Jason.
That's the best ride review of the Tiger 900 I've seen yet. Others seem to concentrate on the Rally, in which I have no interest. Good job you slowed before the crossroad at 12.55 !
Just making sure I've got this right; because of all the people that take their Triumph's off road (that's 2 people), Triumph have completely re-designed their engine to, erm, engineer in some roughness and get rid of the smoothness because, erm, the (2) off-roaders didn't like it... Ok, I geddit now......
I wish I could upvote your comment more than once. Every OEM wants to be SPECIAL and DIFFERENT, every OEM gets an award, no special needs OEM is left behind . . . 🙄😞👎🏻💩. Wouldn't be surprised if all of their other triples start to sport this new stupid T-Plane crank fad. 🙄
My first bike at age 60 and a short arse is a CB500X which I'm over the moon with. I'm pretty sure that unless Honda bring something else out, this will be my next bike in a couple of years time. Great review.
Great review! I’ve read that twin headlights at night can look like a car far away, rather than a motorcycle up close to a car driver about to pull out, so maybe that’s not a bad design idea
"Tiger 888" sounds pretty damn cool to me. I think most people will respond well to the "lumpier" crank configuration... It's become the new norm for their twins and I'm sure it will in the triples as well. I'm not exactly a fan but it sounds pretty nice and that's what sells bikes. 12:55 is the best demonstration you could give a bike to be honest, that could have been a nasty crash on a lesser bike!
I pretty much grew up riding old HD's and Triumphs when I see the amount of people in the comments who complain about the little vibrations any of these newer bikes have it makes me laugh.
A great extensive review as usual Chops. Can't say it does much for me TBH looks wise but 1 thing I did notice that's a definite improvement is the seperate rear subframe so if you do suffer an off at least the bike won't get written off because the rear foot peg mount has bent which then needs a whole new frame.
Watched your review of the gt pro last night and took the rally pro for a test ride this morning. What a brilliant bloody bike!! I have the vstrom 1000 2014 and I love it, but this new 900 has just blown me away. Vibes? What vibes! Acceleration, torque, comfort and ergonomics are just perfect. I'm 6'1, 100 kilo's, and long legs. With the seat in the high setting, (yes it's adjustable) it fitted myself just perfectly. Very surprised with the size of the bike compared to the big Vee. Almost the same, but 23-24 kilo's lighter when fully fueled. As you stated, the throttle response is so smooth, as is the quick shifter. The brakes are as good as you demonstrated, (bloody cagers)and the whole package is perfect. Well done Triumph! I know now which bike will replace the Vee in the near future. Thanks Chopsie, brilliant review as usual. cheers.
@@LambChopRides Mate, could you kindly do a review on the new 2020 vstrom 1050 xt when it becomes available. I do not speak Russian, Spanish, Italian, German and so on. There is nothing out there in bloody ENGLISH!!! Thanking you in advance. Have a good one mate.
4000 is pretty good at 70 MPH. You could call that an adventure bike, if you put a skid plate of decent thickness on and some 50/50 tires. But I think for the extra $500 USD I would be sorry that I didn't add the spoke rims, better suspension, the extra modes and engine guards that the Rally Pro has.😁
Message to Triumph : “Triumph please offer us a Tiger 900 GT with tubeless spoked wheels; then a lot of riders (like me) would really be very interested in buying one. Why: Because a lot of riders prefer 19 inches front wheel to have more fun in twisty roads, because we prefer tubeless spoked wheels & because the Rally model is a little bit to tall for shorter riders. Best regards.”
@@paulhughes8037 yes casted Aluminium tubeless wheels for Tiger 850 Sport & Tiger 900 GT/Pro, but it’s only Tiger 900 Rally/Pro with tubeless SPOKED wheels. Cheers!
Both lights should be on hi or low beam. I agree. The new light design looks very nice. Triumph should be a top contender in the style and technologies department. If they do step up the tech and design I will switch over from ktm.
I know "T-plane" crank was an effort to make the engine better off road...but what's the point in a bike that is a "Road" touring bike? Lets face it, very few people go truly off-road in this class of adventure bikes as they are big, expensive and heavy. If you ARE taking a Tiger off-road then you are going to buy the Rally version in which case this engine would make sense,
For a road bike why make it lumpier with "acceptable" vibes? If I wanted a twin I'd buy an F900. Also, they still have the exhaust stuck under the rear seat so you can't use soft throw-over paniers without a frame, which defeats the objective. Excellent review as usual. 👍👍👍
When can we get the ultimate review and comparison between he BMW F900 XR, Ducati Multistrada 950 and Triumph Tiger 900? Mainly for commuting and touring.
Great review.. I had the GT PRO demo for 4 hrs and thoroughly enjoyed it. I like touring so decided to do one junction on the motorway (75mph) on the way back to the dealership, this was the first time I noticed the vibration, was wondering if this could be a problem for 300+ miles? Would heavier bar weights help?
I do take my tiger 800 off-road so that's 3 people. I don't take it on single tracks though. We have lots of unsealed minor roads (thousands of kilometers). I wouldn't swop my 21" front wheel. I haven't felt any need of a different firing order. It sounds as though there are some good improvements but not enough to trade up. I also don't like the new headlights or display (personal preference). If mine got written off I would buy the 900. Good review thank you
Fantastic review 007. You’ve taken it to the next level. Informative, unbiased, still as entertaining as ever. And, crucially for me, you give us an insight into us what’s really important about a bike; engine character and handling. The highlight for me though was when that stupid f#%k pulled out in front of you and I barely detected a rise in your pulse. I wouldn’t have been able to show anything like that level of self control as my VO would have been a long series of beeps. 🚨
Thanks Bruce really appreciated matey, yeah wasnt expecting that fool to pull out but thats biking isnt it happens all to often.. That junction is tricky and was probably going a bit too quick so cant realy blame him
A lull in power delivery gives the driving wheel a chance to grab the surface ...for the rotational speed to match the surface's speed and this allows the two to 'mesh' for longer - the coefficient for Static friction (stationary) is always higher than the coefficient of kinetic friction (once sliding) and like everything in life it's not black and white but shades of grey at the margin between the two states.
I'm finally at the point where I've accepted the fact that my next bike will be a Tiger 900... im in Central Texas, so most likely will opt for the Rally, or Rally Pro.
The "T-plane" crank just makes the bike vibey like a twin, and its lost is smooth Triple character. I found the vibrations in the footpegs/handlebars were quite noticeable after less than an hour riding. I'll admit its got loads of torque, but if you want that then its easier to just stick with a big twin or better still a large displacement V4. A triple engine is meant to be the "best of both worlds" but this one, strangely misses the mark. I reckon Triumph should have stuck with the previous generation's 1050 smooth i.e. the Speed Triple engine in the Tiger Chassis. Overall I found the bike rather boring...
You stated the trade of of vibes with a T Plane crank, could you expand? Thinking on getting a GT PRO, a quick test ride following saleman on another revealed some vibes? Concerned they may be much worse since I didnt go above 6k rpms????
Cracking review, cheers. Only let down for me is the tft screen layout, no rev counter graph or circular dial which BMW seem to have sorted, plus no room under seat for disc locks & the like ☹️
Nice review. I'm one of the eejits that take em off road. Just ordered the rally pro, I've never had a bike with that amount of electronics, ludite that I am. Time will tell.
Hi Chops - This is the bike I’ve been waiting for, mainly as a tourer. However, you didn’t mention you views on its ability to perform in that role. Your views would be greatly appreciated. Great review of what seems to be a great bike. Thanks again, yours aye, Alan
Fantastic review, love the camera work, I've just taking this bike out for a test run here in Australia (Perth) 30 dec C warm day ; And the first thing I notice was, the heat coming from the radiators on to my knees , very uncomfortable !! Looking through comments nobody has mentioned this,. obviously in the UK winter you would love this extra heat to warm your cold legs , but in summertime I doubt it !!! Apart from that ,the bike was really nice to ride..
I really enjoyed this thorough review of the Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro and the filming is absolutely stellar,well done👍 Btw,What helmet are you wearing?
When I was a young man - many years ago, I used to obsess about all the hyper sports bikes. I've had one or two over the yesrs; all very enjoyable and all very, very fast indeed (150+mph/240+km/h has been easily accessible since the mid '80s). I met a guy out on a motorcycle camping trip once about 15 years ago; he was riding a GS850. He asked "which bike are you more likely to kill yourself on?" I absolutely love all these adventure style bikes; ride in comfort for huge distances in all weathers, carrying as much stuff as you like. Two wheeled heaven!
Nearly 42mpg US = 50 mpg U/K...not too shabby to be honest in my opinion. Interesting bike. Think I'll see if the wife would like this too! She rides her 675R, but would be interested as a pillion on trips on this maybe?
Cracking review, good to hear another tall bugger is out of the dirty air with the screen, it wasn't the case on the 800 for me. The 800 was also the only experience of a heated seat I've had and I was sitting there thinking "I do need to have a bike with this!", it's a feature that's far more valuable than you'd think. A bit like Cruise control on a bike as well.
Sounds almost like a Speed Twin. I own a 2019 Tiger 800 XRt, so it has all the same features. I like the passenger having their own switch now. Took me ages to figure out to hold the seat button to activate the passenger seat and it has only one setting unlike two for the rider. My pillion wasn’t happy about that after riding in the cold with no heat!
Great vid as always Chops, your chanel is fab! I started watching this bloomin months ago (and somehow never got to the end lol) when I was looking at the SDr which I bought, now my missus is getting back into coming out with me we need something better for a passenger. I've not seen a bad word really about the 900s. Now my lovely wife has fallen for the Rally Pro which I'm secretly glad about as I'd love something different to compliment the SDr which ain't leaving the stable and will probably now lose the rear seat 😆 haha
Very interesting review, especially for me as I have a Tiger 800 XRT and will be thinking of getting the 900 GT Pro after I've had a test ride. What I like about your vid is that you know how to ride, really giving the bike some wrist so as to try the engine's performance and the bike's handling, not just potter along the lanes. Great stuff. I love my 800, one of the best bikes I've owned and I've had many, but my sole criticism is that it is impossible to get on the centre stand unaided. It is for me anyway, only able to do it, even then with an effort, by first putting the back wheel on a bit of wood to raise it. Hoping the 900 will be easier but if not, that won't put me off buying one if I like it otherwise. I notice in your walkround that you got the bike on to the stand. However you are way taller and heavier than me (five eight, eleven stone and I'm old and decrepit too) so that might explain it. Either that or the 900 is actually easier, which I hope is the case. No problem with the stand on my previous bike, BMW 1200 GS. Thanks for the review, one of the best I've seen of the GTP version.
I've tested the Rally pro. It IS too viby. From 6000 rpm, it was getting uncomfortable. No where near as bad as the BMW F900XR (which is horrible imo), but worse then the Tracer 900 (GT). But sub 6000 rpm, it's a nice ride. I Wish they had put 120/70-17 front and 180/55 -17 rear wheel on the GT version though. It would give it more "fun" potential. Speaking of sporty and the Tracer 900. How does it compare? I've tested both, but didn't get to take either to the twisties. I felt like the Tracer was a lot more sporty and will be more fun to own as your only bike.
Did find the seat was high enough for a tall ride. I love 900 bike I’m about to upgrade my America 900. I’ve had since new and I always found it a little to small but never lacking in power. I’m trying to decide on the 1200 Rally Pro or the 900 rally Pro.
Excellent review. Just bought a Ducati Scrambler for commuting in the Paris region. Loving it mostly but it really isn"t confidence inspiring on motorways or in bad weather conditions. Most of my riding is in dense traffic but I do get out for the odd jaunt. I'm very tempted to move to this Tiger as it really is a Swiss army knife machine and still fun to ride. The lower centre of gravity might swing it for me. I imagine that filtering wouldn't be a problem? The only thing that I don't love is the colour choices and the overall look. The Rally green is far better looking but unfortunately not available for the GT pro.
Thanks. Good review. Reassuring as I’m considering trading a couple of twins for this particular model. Safety, practicality, lightness and pillion comfort are factors for me. Very helpful to see this video. Real life uk riding there too. You handled that driver at the crossroads really well. No sense in us riders getting too angry with bad drivers, there are too many of them. Cheers.
Great review. I had a Tiger 1050 with a TOR can so I'd miss the old engine sound however. That sound gives me the same goosebumps as a Rolls Royce Merlin does 😄
Excellent video! Our local dealer didn’t have any Tiger 900 GT Pros for me to test ride when I bought my BMW 750 GS. I was at the dealer recently and sat on the 900 GT Pro and found it much lighter than my 750. Do you prefer one of those over the other?
Since you like off road will you get a chance to try the Rally pro but still compare it to the GT Pro because I would love to hear your thoughts even though you’re a KTM rider
I'd have loved to had met you for that test ride, but I'm in America, dammit!!! Always enjoy your reviews. My local dealership just started selling Triumphs in the midst of Covid no less! Can you say, CANDY STORE!!!??? I gravitated IMMEDIATELY to the Tiger 900. I'm 6'2", 180lbs. I sat in the bike. It's COMFY! It had cruise control! Heated grips! I don't care much about electronics packages. I'm 60. I like non-ABS bikes. I grew up with them. I do like a nice dash though. Love my 2020 Ninja 650's dash. That being said, I CAN spring for the Pro, and that seems to be the norm on the showroom floor. Make sense. They want to sell the deluxe model. But would you estimate that the base model is just as nice? Or, all in all, would you during for the Pro. No one's doing a vlog on the base model. I know it doesn't have heated seats, but I'm a daily commuter. I don't own a car. I've never missed what I've never had. My Ninja 650 has ABS, that's it.
Ami missing something here. To make it sound more like a twin they alter the crank and the firing order, rather than work on the exhaust. To make the power delivery like a twin they work on the firing order on the crank, as the triple is too smooth for off road. Hang on don’t triumph actually make a twin? Could they not develop that to give what they want? Just sounds a little bit like 1) look at us how clever are we, 2) our twins are so old in design / low power we have to use the triple engines. For some reason I miss a lot of what triumph are trying to achieve do like the street triples though.
So I've got a Honda c90 with knobblies on ,its light weight economical and probably more hilarious and fun to use on and off road .Certainly cheaper to fix when you off it lol . The triumph is probably great but I don't believe it's any better or worse than the rest of the brands ,to me it's fugly ,but I think the norden looks cool lol .
How is the model configuration simpler than "XR" road version and "XC" off road biased version. Never could see how people had difficulty understanding that, still it looks and sounds lovely.👍
One of my biker mates just got a new one, it looks like a great bike. He traded is awesome Empty-10 in for it, sad to see the MT go but it drinks to much juice, he was always in the petrol station.
Who likes keyless? I do - its great - I thought it'd be a pain but in reality its just ace. No more faffing around for keys, just leave it in your pocket. Whats not to like?
But then you think... hang on did I put it in my pocket, has it fallen out?? Much prefer to know exactly where my key is , in the ignition where it supposed to be :-)
@@LambChopRides - I keep it in the same pocket in my jacket all the time - it never needs to come out. First had keyless on my GSA1200 and now on the KTM 1290. the fewer times I'm handling my key the fewer opportunities there are to loose it.
Hey EBD, Just watched your review of the Tiger 900 GT. Good job! You seem to like it as much as Lamb Chops does. Now I am looking forward to TMF's review. A positive review by him would complete the holy trifecta of praise by my favorite moto-vloggers.
I'm still running in a 2019 800 XRT. One of the main reasons I bought it was the triple engine. I love triples and I know lots of people do. It is silky smooth and sounds great. Plus no vibration to speak of. I find it difficult to believe that many of us take their £13K plus bikes offroad. I know I won't take on much more than the odd green lane. I bought the bike to downsize from a 1050 Tiger, which became too hard to manhandle around due to the onset of decrepitude. My point is that to change the character of the engine to suit offroad riding with the inherent increase in vibration and sounding like a twin seems like a strange way to go.
Of course I haven't ridden the 900 yet. I've hardly ridden the 800 but it is brilliant. I love how it sounds and the total lack of vibrations. If I'd have wanted a twin I would have bought one.
Great review !! And I love the spec on this model especially the way the TFT screen blurs when the speed limit is exceeded. Neat !!!
That slight vibration in the hands makes a huge difference after hours of riding and hundreds of kilometers. That is exactly why I was considering to change my twin for a tripple. Now I have queations about this vibration thing, and u r not the only one to mention that.
Yours is the 6th review I've watched on T900, and by far the best (and most practical)- keep up the great reviews.
Thanks CPU appreciate that
Why a Triumph dealer yet haven´t given you a job proposal as a sales rep is beyond me! Your vids, especially this one, must make Triumph roll out countless Tiger GT Pro´s. Very well rounded and attentative review on this, which is 99% certain, will be the bike I will purchase come spring 2021. I will REALLY appreciate if you do a follow up on this particular bike for the 2021 model! Nice one, keep it up, I´m a subscriber, and that´s saying something, ´cos I don´t subscribe to many channels. All the best from a Norwegian ADV biker.
Great vid Chopsie and brilliant that Destination Triumph treat you so well, I spoke to Triumph UK today and they still can't get me a bike for several weeks! Really good to hear that engine, sounds great on the video but disappointed to hear the new firing order has made the engine more lumpy - as someone who doesn't take their adventure bike off road (and 99% of us don't as you said) it beats me why Triumph would change a brilliantly smooth engine ideally suited for the road, into something more suited for off-road given most people buy them for the road!! I get the vibes aren't excessive but I'll reserve judgement until I get to try one (I loved the old 800's smoothness and am a fan of Triumph Triples generally). Thank you for the early look, can't wait to have a go on one (eventually!!)....all the best mate and see you on Thursday.....oh no, wait I minute.. ;0)
Thanks TMF and great praise indeed coming from you sir! You really need to ride them back to back I guess to see the real difference, think of the KTM 790 and its more or less exactly how it feels!
@@LambChopRides Oh dear! I do hope they haven't spoiled it - really grew on me when I rode the 800 in Thailand and when I saw the Green and White Rally Pro 900 at the unveiling at Hinckley thought the new bike looked a winner....could be a potential GS replacement in future if it's OK with a pillion.....
THIS! I'm planning on buying a midrange Tiger, either the XRT or the GT. Right now, I'm leaning towards the XRT 800 - it'll probably cost $6-8000 less than the GT down here in Australia.
Or maybe I'll just wait an extra year or two.
@themissendenflyer-make sure you get the GT Pro. All the Moto journos seem fancy the "cooler" Rally Pro, making GT Pro content a bit sparse;)
@@TheMissendenFlyer There‘s always the 850 Sport. 😜
Marketing for the previous model: Triple engines are the best engine configuration, comprising the smoothness of a 4 with the grunt of a twin. Marketing for this model: It's a triple but we've made it less like a triple and more like a twin!
The exhaust note on that new Tiger is so sweet!
As an owner of a 2019 Tiger XCa my only regrets are the new tubeless rims but most importantly the easier access to air filter. The new styling doesn’t do anything for me at all. I bought this bike for off-roading and I’m quite certain I’ll never push the limits. In closing Triumph is a motorcycle company that brings “it” to market in all its models. Thanks for the ride along 👍🏼
the new one should have more low down torque though which is perfect for off roading
Absolutely brilliant comprehensive review of what looks like a great bike. I have to say you did really well with the car pulling out in front of you. I think they might have learnt a few new words had it been me. Good job. Jason.
That's the best ride review of the Tiger 900 I've seen yet. Others seem to concentrate on the Rally, in which I have no interest. Good job you slowed before the crossroad at 12.55 !
Just making sure I've got this right; because of all the people that take their Triumph's off road (that's 2 people), Triumph have completely re-designed their engine to, erm, engineer in some roughness and get rid of the smoothness because, erm, the (2) off-roaders didn't like it... Ok, I geddit now......
lol exactly its like if Mercedes g65 owners complain about off-road abilities
I wish I could upvote your comment more than once.
Every OEM wants to be SPECIAL and DIFFERENT, every OEM gets an award, no special needs OEM is left behind . . . 🙄😞👎🏻💩.
Wouldn't be surprised if all of their other triples start to sport this new stupid T-Plane crank fad. 🙄
Naranja L'orange what can i say? Me and my brother wanted that. We talked to the Triumphpeople and they said ok.
@@Keyser_Soze739 Haha, brilliant.
But the engine sounds better now ;-)
My first bike at age 60 and a short arse is a CB500X which I'm over the moon with. I'm pretty sure that unless Honda bring something else out, this will be my next bike in a couple of years time. Great review.
Great review! I’ve read that twin headlights at night can look like a car far away, rather than a motorcycle up close to a car driver about to pull out, so maybe that’s not a bad design idea
"Tiger 888" sounds pretty damn cool to me. I think most people will respond well to the "lumpier" crank configuration... It's become the new norm for their twins and I'm sure it will in the triples as well. I'm not exactly a fan but it sounds pretty nice and that's what sells bikes. 12:55 is the best demonstration you could give a bike to be honest, that could have been a nasty crash on a lesser bike!
just wish they gave us all colors regardless of road or off road versions , the matt green looks great
I pretty much grew up riding old HD's and Triumphs when I see the amount of people in the comments who complain about the little vibrations any of these newer bikes have it makes me laugh.
A great extensive review as usual Chops. Can't say it does much for me TBH looks wise but 1 thing I did notice that's a definite improvement is the seperate rear subframe so if you do suffer an off at least the bike won't get written off because the rear foot peg mount has bent which then needs a whole new frame.
As usual a thorough review. The middleweight class getting interesting with the new F900s from BMW along with the Tiger.
and the Tracer 9 GT
Watched your review of the gt pro last night and took the rally pro for a test ride this morning. What a brilliant bloody bike!! I have the vstrom 1000 2014 and I love it, but this new 900 has just blown me away. Vibes? What vibes! Acceleration, torque, comfort and ergonomics are just perfect. I'm 6'1, 100 kilo's, and long legs. With the seat in the high setting, (yes it's adjustable) it fitted myself just perfectly. Very surprised with the size of the bike compared to the big Vee. Almost the same, but 23-24 kilo's lighter when fully fueled. As you stated, the throttle response is so smooth, as is the quick shifter. The brakes are as good as you demonstrated, (bloody cagers)and the whole package is perfect. Well done Triumph! I know now which bike will replace the Vee in the near future. Thanks Chopsie, brilliant review as usual. cheers.
Thanks Andrew glad you liked it mate!!
@@LambChopRides Mate, could you kindly do a review on the new 2020 vstrom 1050 xt when it becomes available. I do not speak Russian, Spanish, Italian, German and so on. There is nothing out there in bloody ENGLISH!!! Thanking you in advance. Have a good one mate.
4000 is pretty good at 70 MPH. You could call that an adventure bike, if you put a skid plate of decent thickness on and some 50/50 tires. But I think for the extra $500 USD I would be sorry that I didn't add the spoke rims, better suspension, the extra modes and engine guards that the Rally Pro has.😁
Message to Triumph : “Triumph please offer us a Tiger 900 GT with tubeless spoked wheels; then a lot of riders (like me) would really be very interested in buying one. Why: Because a lot of riders prefer 19 inches front wheel to have more fun in twisty roads, because we prefer tubeless spoked wheels & because the Rally model is a little bit to tall for shorter riders. Best regards.”
Id just buy 19 inch aftermarket front wheel
They already have tubeless?
@@paulhughes8037 yes casted Aluminium tubeless wheels for Tiger 850 Sport & Tiger 900 GT/Pro, but it’s only Tiger 900 Rally/Pro with tubeless SPOKED wheels. Cheers!
19" spoked are heavier...you sure you want heavier?
that motor sounds great! hope they apply it to the sport models!
I went to my Triumph dealer recently and the guys said that Triumph want odd-firing enginess to become a trend.
Decent thorough review (at last), cheers Chopsie.
12:55 my blood ran cold
A true professional, still carried on with the review.
Every day, every ride! Impressed Mr Chop didn’t swear! 👍🏻🇦🇺
That’s why we cover our front brakes, and thank the engineering gods for cornering ABS.
My pants ran brown....
Which is why there is a big painted slow in the road as the junction on the bend coming up. Well done LCR
Both lights should be on hi or low beam. I agree. The new light design looks very nice. Triumph should be a top contender in the style and technologies department. If they do step up the tech and design I will switch over from ktm.
Great review! Boy was that a pucker moment when that little clown car pulled out in front of you!
I know "T-plane" crank was an effort to make the engine better off road...but what's the point in a bike that is a "Road" touring bike? Lets face it, very few people go truly off-road in this class of adventure bikes as they are big, expensive and heavy. If you ARE taking a Tiger off-road then you are going to buy the Rally version in which case this engine would make sense,
For a road bike why make it lumpier with "acceptable" vibes? If I wanted a twin I'd buy an F900.
Also, they still have the exhaust stuck under the rear seat so you can't use soft throw-over paniers without a frame, which defeats the objective.
Excellent review as usual. 👍👍👍
I just bought this bike 2 days ago. So far I love it ! Like a spaceship compared to my last bike !
keyless ignition is great, loved mine on the Multistrada
Bunnyshooter 223, ooooo so crazy! Everyone’s had to deal with a choke before numbnuts
When can we get the ultimate review and comparison between he BMW F900 XR, Ducati Multistrada 950 and Triumph Tiger 900? Mainly for commuting and touring.
Oh, the sound of that engine -- delicious... GREAT REVIEW!
Great review.. I had the GT PRO demo for 4 hrs and thoroughly enjoyed it. I like touring so decided to do one junction on the motorway (75mph) on the way back to the dealership, this was the first time I noticed the vibration, was wondering if this could be a problem for 300+ miles?
Would heavier bar weights help?
Hi & thanks. Are you sure that the vibrations from the engine are not annoying in the hand bars & in the foot-pegs over 5000 rpm ?
I'll tell you one thing, this is the best review I've seen.
I really really enjoyed it..
Thanks very much
I loved you riding.. 😎👊
Thanks Peter 👍
I do take my tiger 800 off-road so that's 3 people. I don't take it on single tracks though. We have lots of unsealed minor roads (thousands of kilometers). I wouldn't swop my 21" front wheel. I haven't felt any need of a different firing order. It sounds as though there are some good improvements but not enough to trade up. I also don't like the new headlights or display (personal preference). If mine got written off I would buy the 900. Good review thank you
Fantastic review 007. You’ve taken it to the next level. Informative, unbiased, still as entertaining as ever. And, crucially for me, you give us an insight into us what’s really important about a bike; engine character and handling. The highlight for me though was when that stupid f#%k pulled out in front of you and I barely detected a rise in your pulse. I wouldn’t have been able to show anything like that level of self control as my VO would have been a long series of beeps. 🚨
Thanks Bruce really appreciated matey, yeah wasnt expecting that fool to pull out but thats biking isnt it happens all to often.. That junction is tricky and was probably going a bit too quick so cant realy blame him
Maybe they should have 19" spoked wheel as a compromise
You need to review Ducati 950 multistrada with full electronic package for comparison.
Great review. Thanks for the 'cornering ABS' demo! 😀👍🏍
Man at 12.55 I almost soiled myself. Nice reaction time to save your bacon.
A lull in power delivery gives the driving wheel a chance to grab the surface ...for the rotational speed to match the surface's speed and this allows the two to 'mesh' for longer - the coefficient for Static friction (stationary) is always higher than the coefficient of kinetic friction (once sliding) and like everything in life it's not black and white but shades of grey at the margin between the two states.
Incredibly clever that.
So it will benefit 2 people, whilst the other 5000 will just have to suffer the vibes.
Yes what Eugene :-)
I'm finally at the point where I've accepted the fact that my next bike will be a Tiger 900... im in Central Texas, so most likely will opt for the Rally, or Rally Pro.
Dry weights I'm guessing. Sounds nice - very twin like. Still keeping my Venom Yellow though.
Glad to see you get a centre stand. Had to pay extra for one on my CB500F. Shaft drive would be terrific. Had that on my R80GS - magic.
Really enjoy your commentary.
Thanks for a good review. So, 2022 upgrade is the old crank back!
Ahh the 360 on the pole may be my favorite. Great vid Chops!
The "T-plane" crank just makes the bike vibey like a twin, and its lost is smooth Triple character. I found the vibrations in the footpegs/handlebars were quite noticeable after less than an hour riding. I'll admit its got loads of torque, but if you want that then its easier to just stick with a big twin or better still a large displacement V4. A triple engine is meant to be the "best of both worlds" but this one, strangely misses the mark. I reckon Triumph should have stuck with the previous generation's 1050 smooth i.e. the Speed Triple engine in the Tiger Chassis. Overall I found the bike rather boring...
This one has a great sound, exciting 💯
I guess they fixed that smoothness problem?
You stated the trade of of vibes with a T Plane crank, could you expand? Thinking on getting a GT PRO, a quick test ride following saleman on another revealed some vibes? Concerned they may be much worse since I didnt go above 6k rpms????
Cracking review, cheers.
Only let down for me is the tft screen layout, no rev counter graph or circular dial which BMW seem to have sorted, plus no room under seat for disc locks & the like ☹️
Nice review. I'm one of the eejits that take em off road. Just ordered the rally pro, I've never had a bike with that amount of electronics, ludite that I am. Time will tell.
Hi Chops - This is the bike I’ve been waiting for, mainly as a tourer. However, you didn’t mention you views on its ability to perform in that role. Your views would be greatly appreciated. Great review of what seems to be a great bike. Thanks again, yours aye, Alan
Hi Alan, it's made for that role perfectly! I cannot see any reason why it wouldn't be a brilliant touring machine. 👍
Fantastic review, love the camera work, I've just taking this bike out for a test run here in Australia (Perth) 30 dec C warm day ; And the first thing I notice was, the heat coming from the radiators on to my knees , very uncomfortable !! Looking through comments nobody has mentioned this,. obviously in the UK winter you would love this extra heat to warm your cold legs , but in summertime I doubt it !!! Apart from that ,the bike was really nice to ride..
love the way it sounds ... bit meaner than a normal triple, nice rumble to it but also still retains that classic triple whine ... I like that a lot 😉
I really enjoyed this thorough review of the Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro and the filming is absolutely stellar,well done👍
Btw,What helmet are you wearing?
When I was a young man - many years ago, I used to obsess about all the hyper sports bikes. I've had one or two over the yesrs; all very enjoyable and all very, very fast indeed (150+mph/240+km/h has been easily accessible since the mid '80s).
I met a guy out on a motorcycle camping trip once about 15 years ago; he was riding a GS850. He asked "which bike are you more likely to kill yourself on?"
I absolutely love all these adventure style bikes; ride in comfort for huge distances in all weathers, carrying as much stuff as you like. Two wheeled heaven!
Nearly 42mpg US = 50 mpg U/K...not too shabby to be honest in my opinion. Interesting bike. Think I'll see if the wife would like this too! She rides her 675R, but would be interested as a pillion on trips on this maybe?
Cracking review, good to hear another tall bugger is out of the dirty air with the screen, it wasn't the case on the 800 for me.
The 800 was also the only experience of a heated seat I've had and I was sitting there thinking "I do need to have a bike with this!", it's a feature that's far more valuable than you'd think. A bit like Cruise control on a bike as well.
Sounds almost like a Speed Twin. I own a 2019 Tiger 800 XRt, so it has all the same features. I like the passenger having their own switch now. Took me ages to figure out to hold the seat button to activate the passenger seat and it has only one setting unlike two for the rider. My pillion wasn’t happy about that after riding in the cold with no heat!
Lamb Chop, burgundy? I wouldn't call Korosi red exactly burgundy which is a dark red colour. Korosi is quite a bright red?
Great vid as always Chops, your chanel is fab! I started watching this bloomin months ago (and somehow never got to the end lol) when I was looking at the SDr which I bought, now my missus is getting back into coming out with me we need something better for a passenger. I've not seen a bad word really about the 900s. Now my lovely wife has fallen for the Rally Pro which I'm secretly glad about as I'd love something different to compliment the SDr which ain't leaving the stable and will probably now lose the rear seat 😆 haha
Another great video lots of useful info i had my mind set on one of these,BTW front shocks do have manual preload and rebound
As usual,great assessment and presentation.Thks.
Thanks Bruce!
Very interesting review, especially for me as I have a Tiger 800 XRT and will be thinking of getting the 900 GT Pro after I've had a test ride. What I like about your vid is that you know how to ride, really giving the bike some wrist so as to try the engine's performance and the bike's handling, not just potter along the lanes. Great stuff.
I love my 800, one of the best bikes I've owned and I've had many, but my sole criticism is that it is impossible to get on the centre stand unaided. It is for me anyway, only able to do it, even then with an effort, by first putting the back wheel on a bit of wood to raise it. Hoping the 900 will be easier but if not, that won't put me off buying one if I like it otherwise.
I notice in your walkround that you got the bike on to the stand. However you are way taller and heavier than me (five eight, eleven stone and I'm old and decrepit too) so that might explain it. Either that or the 900 is actually easier, which I hope is the case. No problem with the stand on my previous bike, BMW 1200 GS.
Thanks for the review, one of the best I've seen of the GTP version.
Thanks Per
I've tested the Rally pro. It IS too viby. From 6000 rpm, it was getting uncomfortable. No where near as bad as the BMW F900XR (which is horrible imo), but worse then the Tracer 900 (GT). But sub 6000 rpm, it's a nice ride. I Wish they had put 120/70-17 front and 180/55 -17 rear wheel on the GT version though. It would give it more "fun" potential. Speaking of sporty and the Tracer 900. How does it compare? I've tested both, but didn't get to take either to the twisties. I felt like the Tracer was a lot more sporty and will be more fun to own as your only bike.
Less smooth, less quiet? Maybe Harley-Davidson is on to something...
Rattle parts loose ? EXACTLY. 🤣
Nice save Chops.
Top sell for the Tiger.
That split radiator idea actually makes a lot of sense. Wonder why no one else has ever done it....? Not sure I'd put the rectifier there tho! :o
Honda was the first one that came up with the idea on africa twin.
spot on @lambchops, what would you suggest is a more sporty adventure bike for the road only? 😀
Did find the seat was high enough for a tall ride. I love 900 bike I’m about to upgrade my America 900. I’ve had since new and I always found it a little to small but never lacking in power. I’m trying to decide on the 1200 Rally Pro or the 900 rally Pro.
Excellent review. Just bought a Ducati Scrambler for commuting in the Paris region. Loving it mostly but it really isn"t confidence inspiring on motorways or in bad weather conditions. Most of my riding is in dense traffic but I do get out for the odd jaunt. I'm very tempted to move to this Tiger as it really is a Swiss army knife machine and still fun to ride. The lower centre of gravity might swing it for me. I imagine that filtering wouldn't be a problem? The only thing that I don't love is the colour choices and the overall look. The Rally green is far better looking but unfortunately not available for the GT pro.
Thanks. Good review. Reassuring as I’m considering trading a couple of twins for this particular model. Safety, practicality, lightness and pillion comfort are factors for me. Very helpful to see this video. Real life uk riding there too. You handled that driver at the crossroads really well. No sense in us riders getting too angry with bad drivers, there are too many of them. Cheers.
Yes thanks Pete, yes agreed why get angry and start shouting. Pointless, as you say just enjoy the ride dont let them ruin it for you :-)
Another good review Lamb Chop. I like this bike because it has a lower seat version for people like me with short legs.
Thanks Lyn, yes its great that Triumph try and cater for all people very good indeed
Great review. I had a Tiger 1050 with a TOR can so I'd miss the old engine sound however. That sound gives me the same goosebumps as a Rolls Royce Merlin does 😄
Looks much better than the old 800 and my GSA, nice bike, good review👍
Thanks for the video Chops!
Brilliant video! BTW, who are you interupting here? 22:03 🤣
Excellent video! Our local dealer didn’t have any Tiger 900 GT Pros for me to test ride when I bought my BMW 750 GS. I was at the dealer recently and sat on the 900 GT Pro and found it much lighter than my 750. Do you prefer one of those over the other?
That SD was a sign that you need to test ride one !
Good review 👍👍👍.
End of the month Chris!! Have it for two weeks :-)
Nice 😊👍. Can’t wait to hear what you think of it.
Since you like off road will you get a chance to try the Rally pro but still compare it to the GT Pro because I would love to hear your thoughts even though you’re a KTM rider
Love from India 🇮🇳
Thanks for the review, very informative and put together really well. Just for reference, could you tell us how tall you are?
I'd have loved to had met you for that test ride, but I'm in America, dammit!!!
Always enjoy your reviews.
My local dealership just started selling Triumphs in the midst of Covid no less! Can you say, CANDY STORE!!!??? I gravitated IMMEDIATELY to the Tiger 900. I'm 6'2", 180lbs. I sat in the bike. It's COMFY! It had cruise control! Heated grips!
I don't care much about electronics packages. I'm 60. I like non-ABS bikes. I grew up with them. I do like a nice dash though. Love my 2020 Ninja 650's dash.
That being said, I CAN spring for the Pro, and that seems to be the norm on the showroom floor. Make sense. They want to sell the deluxe model.
But would you estimate that the base model is just as nice? Or, all in all, would you during for the Pro.
No one's doing a vlog on the base model.
I know it doesn't have heated seats, but I'm a daily commuter. I don't own a car. I've never missed what I've never had. My Ninja 650 has ABS, that's it.
Seems quite good value for the money and I liked it in that colour 👍
Ami missing something here. To make it sound more like a twin they alter the crank and the firing order, rather than work on the exhaust. To make the power delivery like a twin they work on the firing order on the crank, as the triple is too smooth for off road. Hang on don’t triumph actually make a twin? Could they not develop that to give what they want? Just sounds a little bit like 1) look at us how clever are we, 2) our twins are so old in design / low power we have to use the triple engines. For some reason I miss a lot of what triumph are trying to achieve do like the street triples though.
So I've got a Honda c90 with knobblies on ,its light weight economical and probably more hilarious and fun to use on and off road .Certainly cheaper to fix when you off it lol . The triumph is probably great but I don't believe it's any better or worse than the rest of the brands ,to me it's fugly ,but I think the norden looks cool lol .
How is the model configuration simpler than "XR" road version and "XC" off road biased version. Never could see how people had difficulty understanding that, still it looks and sounds lovely.👍
Good review, one of the best on this model.
One of my biker mates just got a new one, it looks like a great bike. He traded is awesome Empty-10 in for it, sad to see the MT go but it drinks to much juice, he was always in the petrol station.
I feel like a right plonker lol, he did try the Tiger but he actually went for the Tracer 900 GT in the end.
haha understandable mistake :-)
Brilliant video - Brilliant channel
Thanks John
Chopsie what would be your choice of bike if you were in the adventure bike market, seeing as you’ve tried most?
Who likes keyless? I do - its great - I thought it'd be a pain but in reality its just ace. No more faffing around for keys, just leave it in your pocket. Whats not to like?
But then you think... hang on did I put it in my pocket, has it fallen out?? Much prefer to know exactly where my key is , in the ignition where it supposed to be :-)
@@LambChopRides - I keep it in the same pocket in my jacket all the time - it never needs to come out. First had keyless on my GSA1200 and now on the KTM 1290. the fewer times I'm handling my key the fewer opportunities there are to loose it.
Great review Chops! Looking forward to getting on one myself. 👍
Thanks Dan 👍👍
@@LambChopRides Glad you survived that muppet at the junction. Christ!
Hey EBD,
Just watched your review of the Tiger 900 GT. Good job! You seem to like it as much as Lamb Chops does. Now I am looking forward to TMF's review. A positive review by him would complete the holy trifecta of praise by my favorite moto-vloggers.
Nice review and I think it sounds great 👍🏻
Great video chops nice Triumph
Great stuff Mate, thank you for the real World info.