Found Water In Diesel Fuel?! How To Drain Water From Diesel Fuel Tank
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- What does water in diesel fuel look like? Well, we hope you never have to find out because that’s a very expensive problem. But if you do find water in diesel fuel then drain the fuel tank. Obviously, water in diesel is bad. So take care of your heavy equipment and don’t do things like leave the fuel cap off (like this person did) or anything else that risks getting water in diesel fuel.
Otherwise, we will look for you, we will find you, and we will drain the fuel tank.
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0:00 Intro
0:12 We're over here, Officer!
0:30 Thanks, Rent1 USA!
0:53 Customer complaint
1:25 Fuel tank drain locations
1:50 Clean pans before you start
2:28 Where's the apprentice?
2:39 First drain
3:30 PSA on the screens & daily checks
5:27 Tip to tip to unclog the drain
5:55 Water and diesel confirmed
7:00 Checking the water separator
7:50 Moving the pockets of water around
9:10 Second drain
10:35 What could go wrong?
11:40 Next steps & final drain
12:08 Mechanic's recommendation to the customer
12:40 What you can do to remove condensation or moisture
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13:45 Changing the filters
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As an aviation refueller, who has also worked in bulk fuel storage facilities...
You've got to keep on top of water in fuel. No questions about it.
Water has air in it. Microbiological growth, aka algae, will breath is air, feed off the fuel, and it will breed. So you end up with a layer of water on the bottom, a layer of growth in the middle, and your fuel ontop.
Condensation in the tank heating up during the day, and cooling down at night, will suck in air, through the tank vent(s). This air heats up during the day, forms moisture on the walls of the tank, and it slides down into your fuel, sinking to the bottom.
A tank full of fuel will suffer less because there's a smaller air pocket. Think long term storage of your gear :)
Regularly "strip" or drain a sample from your tank, drain your fuel water traps*. Water is HEAVIER than Diesel, Petrol etc etc. Water sits on the bottom of your tank.
Also....
If microbiological growth is happening in your yard's fuel pod / fuel tank stand etc etc.... it can transfer over into your machines when you refuel. So you've now got a growth problem in your dozer or truck which you won't notice until it's too late.
If you're fuel stinks, has an organic "off smell" to it - you have microbiological growth, or the start of it.
A quick test, get a clean glass jar, pour some fuel from your source, give it a swirl, look through the side of the glass - you can see "particulate" swirling around if it's contaminated. If it's from a tank, machine, or delivery vehicle - get this from the low point drain or sample point. You want this sample to come from the very bottom of the fuel container.
I comment in length because as a rookie operator, 2 years now, no one drains their fuel supply regularly to check for quality. No one takes a mason jar, or glass jar, sample of fuel from the fuel delivery guy to see if he's pumping your storage tank full of contaminated fuel.
*By drain your tank - all your storage tanks should ideally have a low point drain on them, at the lowest point of the fuel holding compartment. When you drain a tank, you want to allow at least 1 or 2 buckets of fuel to come out, this will cause a suction effect in your tank, sucking all the heavy items (water, debris etc) to strip off the bottom of your tank (it creates a tornado like swirl). Check the fuel in the bucket... is it like milk? If it's milky that is the start of growth occuring. Water will form a layer on the bottom of the bucket as globs or even form a full layer under the fuel. Drain until the fuel is clean. In Tropical areas - you'll be draining regularly, at least once a week.
When I was operating an aviation fuel farm / fuel storage i was regularly draining over 500 L of fuel every day across all my storage tanks, pipes, low point drains etc in the tropics (so weather similar to Florida)
Ok, that's my 2 cents... i had to give it my all... this is my manifesto...i wasted 10 years in the military for this moment 🤣🤣🤣
Very helpful comment. Thank you so much.
The company I worked for we had a rental fleet of Kubota mini excavators. It was constant fuel issues from customers. I had a 12 volt pump with a long suction tube I pumped many 5 gallon pails of schmoo out of fuel tanks. Customer calls we put regular gas in the machine it quit running. Get out there they've put damn near 40 litres of gas in the machine. Flush out the lines change filters pump out the tank. That one machine plagued me for for well over a year constantly changing out fuel filters. The other machines it was gas can itis. Water in fuel, bugs in the fuel, clogged fuel lines. On the 690ELC we had it had buggy fuel sh*tty John Deere filters that were a bitch to change. The ZX200 fuel cap lock, water would leak through turned the fuel filters into greasy snot. I always kept our tidy tanks fuel filters changed regularly on the fillrite pumps.
I bought a $26000 ambulance, with a "junk" 6.0 in it, for $2000
It had no cap on it.
Turns out it wasn't head gaskets.
Wasn't a blown EGR.
It was water in the diesel.
Nice to see the Camster back in action!! Keep up the good work Wrenchy!!
Great Video as always. I really like the commentary between Cam and the crew and Cam and Carson. It’s a good Journeyman, Apprentice relationship.
Bobby Boucher H20 drain hack, thanks Cam.
One of the operators left the fuel cap off of a Cat 374f at the landfill I wrench at, then proceeded to run it for two days, despite the water in fuel warnings popping up on the cab display. How we didn't break anything is beyond me.
Oh yikes... glad everything turned out ok though
They probably forgot to put the fuel cap back on, left it open over night in the rain. I've seen it happen a few times down on the ports lol. The worst is when they leave the fill hatch open in the rain on the fuel truck. Nothing but the best HDs working at the ports hahaha
This is an everyday thing when I get a service call for running rough or not starting guys don’t care anymore
Did they ever!? I feel ya.
No they really never did they will tell you that’s what mechanics are for
@Nunya Business not sure we're ur at but operators here make easily 6 figures we are close to that as well if u actually have experience and know what your doing not an excuse to neglect or mess up extremely expensive equipment you either own or are intrusted to run if people don't like there compensation find another job either they aren't good at there job or work for a small company I think people closing caps checking fluids isn't a difficult job its called being lazy
“He doesn’t work saturdays”. Lolol. Too funny. Watching from Ontario Canada
Great Video :) best regards from a german HD Field Mechanic 👍🏻
THANK YOU RENT 1 :)
More Cam and Carson Videos please!!!
Had a terex power screen with a no start the other day. Cat/Perkins engine
Filters were obviously trashed, past the water seperator we found a chunk of latex glove in the fuel filter. Turns out they crew running it lost the fuel cap a while ago and used a latex glove as a cap. Found the rest of the glove jammed into the inlet of the fuel/water seperator preventing the machine from priming
Today I worked on a pc360 komatsu. Diesel tank had crazy amount of water in it. Drained from sediment clean out drain. Then a rotary broom with a fuel leak easy fix replaced a weep hole plug on injection pump. Then finished with a DT 466 with no oil pressure. Turned out a piece of shmoo was blocking the sensor. Easy fix’s all around. But it’s the easy jobs that make up for the difficult ones.
You know you've made it when the bots are filling your comments with spam within minutes 😂
Do take care of your machines, Cam is spot on! The machine can't pay the bills without you, and you can't pay the bills without the machine. It takes two to tango.
Seen that plenty of times including putting gas in a diesel in it. Great video guys....
Dumb mechanic at my last job filled hydro thank with diesel fuel they sent him home for a week made me clean up his mess an let him come back the next day there was never a week off
@@brandone6252 Had someone dump antifreeze in a hydro tank on a ZT mower cause they thought it was water cooled, that was a mess.
Sif in edmonton sells those baldwin fuel filters for a pretty good value. Swap them if your out there poking around the machine.
Did the form let’s see what happens 🤘
where did cam get that "my trade > your degree" sticker
Haha it's ours, we're going to be selling it soon once we open our merch shop.
whats that insider info he left out on how to remove condensation in lines?
I wanna know where the get that badass sticker 😂
It's ours :) once we get our merch store up it should be on there.
Send me link to the merch store?? Gotta go get my a few of them lmao
Someone probably stole the fuel and left the cap off . Seen that happen more than once
Lol cool video at least you act yourself now to work and follow your advice
look i still have to check my oil daily in my honda civic, thank you
Would have just sucked out the tank Changed the filters Lot quicker in long run God video thank you boys
@4:23, the lens does in the reflection show...a 1:4, if mine eyes do not...a very fast and capable symmetry
The company I worked for didn't even have those screens. The boss probably threw them away himself all he cared about was speed and grease.
Hey awesome video/s, was wondering if you guys are gonna ever do a show of Keith's punch chisel holder set up, just watched you talk about it in another video. Thanks for all your great work and keep it up!
Hey Jon we'll try to do a follow up on the punch chisel holder set up
So it's advisable to drain the fuel atleast 5-10 seconds everyday specially in the morning before starting the engine.
Water is also non compresable, and in something that runs on compression, it becomes the age-old unmovable object meets unstoppable force.
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Wdym network only🤨…independent techs probably aren’t the ones who need to learn..
Run in this problem a few weeks ago with my D-39EX-23 mind had trash in the tank stopping up the fuel line. Now it's sucking air somewhere between the tank and fuel filter primer. I have to prime it every time to start it now. Many ideas?
Is the primer bad unhook line from tank to primer blow air in tank an see if you get fuel flowing then try an crack lines at injection pump an start it see you get any fuel
Check for debris in the primer if you had it in the tank, could be holding it open letting it bleed away prime.
After finding the trash replaced filters, then the primer and orings at fits.
So... What do you recommend when someone put about a gallon of hydraulic into the fuel tank before noticing?
Depends on the size of the fuel tank. A little bit of hydraulic in a lot of diesel is not going to upset a diesel.
Our guys like to put def in the diesel tank 🥴🙄
Fuel guys are the bane of my existence. The worst workers on the construction site.
Less talk more work for a better world
use air in tank
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You don't need fuel cap there over rated. lol
The operators are like truck drivers they think all they need to do is just operate the machine and not do safety Check I worked Ryder and waste management was a mechanic and drivers and operators are just lazy