What HAPPENED to Corsair Cases?
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- Corsair used to be known for the the best PC cases on the planet but that has changed. Instead of them offering amazing build quality, innovation and pricing, Corsair PC cases are now expensive, have a lot of copycat features that are years late and have build quality of a sub-budget case. But let's also talk about how things can be fixed.
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Corsair went public on the stock market 8 days after releasing the 4000D. If you're wondering why everything since then has been garbage, the mystery has been solved.
their stock went to shit, it isn't that. It's straight up case market is hyper competitive and corsair cant keep up.
@@unitedstatessc I am pretty sure this was a case where a company going public really has THAT much of an effect. A company grows and compromises must happen, even if economics of scale go in their favor. Also, it isn't like private companies don't have shareholders pressing for profit.
@@unitedstatessc Yes, but why can't they keep up? Because of shareholder influence and a pivot to exclusively profit motivated practices which sacrifices quality and engineering. It's a tale as old as time. Public ownership destroys companies in the name of infinite growth.
@@OmarFW the fact that the 4000D is one of the most popular cases and often recommended also plays a factor, why keep innovating if you're already very popular and your product works fine?
Most of Corsair cases have been kinda bad in the first place to be fair
Corsair may have been a pioneer in dual chamber cases, but Lian Li just did it more elegantly and now theyre the design everyone wants. The 011D turned PCs from a giant piece of nerdy tech to a show piece.
not everyone, I will never build a PC in a fish tank.
@@Roman00744 Yep....I'm more of a function over form guy and spend more time looking at my monitor than caring about looking at my PC, but to each their own.
@@Roman00744 Their lancool series does a better job with functionality and easy access than other cases in its price range , and It's not a fish tank case, try harder
o11 ruined pc cases... ... ... 'cuz of how good it was lol.
I'll build every PC I'll have ever owned in a fish tank case. 🐟🐬🐠
Screwing over customers? They've been doing that for years with AIOs and fans.
Looks good, performs like shit.
As some one that has Corsair fans in a few builds, I completely agree. I actually tell people not to buy their fans even when I use them in some builds.
They look nice, but they are bottom tier in performance. Dollar to performance ratio is horrendous.
100%
Most tech companies do that tho.
They just have good RAM and PSU. Everything else is overpriced or garbage.
I had swapped my case fans 3 times via RMA. The LEDs bleeds out within months.
When I built my first PC back in 2020, I got the 4000D AF because it seemed like the perfect case. Interesting to see that almost everything that came after it has been a disappointment. I think the 4000D is near perfect in design. Hopefully they can find their way back with future releases
Same, i got 4000D and it is perfect for me.
The reason why everything after the 4000D was junk is because 8 days after the 4000D’s release they went public on the stock market
Corsair is owned by a Private Investment firm. That means they will make the product as cheap as possible while still appealing to the latest trend in the most generic way possible.
These days Corsair seems positioned as more of a 'lifestyle' brand than a PC brand, almost like some kind of Drop.
WAIT A MINUTE.
Very much so. It's kind of apparent with their company acquisitions.
Why does this sound so familiar?
/sarcasm
The day Corsair went public, I stopped buying Corsair. After getting a Lian Li Lancool 2 Mesh, I was appalled at the thought of even reusing my old Air 540 Corsair cases. RIP to the legendary Corsair company we all once loved. It really drove home to me when my Corsair AIO started malfunctioning merely 3 years after release because they forgot to renew their Microsoft Digital Certification for it. Nothing but incompetence since they turned corpo.
@@Aliothale what exactly are they legendary for? Light up fans? The only thing they pioneered was putting flashing lights in poor quality products. I agree they suck, but they've kinda always sucked? People just didn't know, like how many people genuinely didn't know who seasonic was, despite them making the majority of every good power supply ever made. My Corsair AiO also died on me about 3 years in. Personally I will never use another AiO, Corsair or not.
@@Enixious99 My first AIO was a non-rgb one from Lian-Li that I got like, 8 years ago? It's still going, and it's been passed down twice. From me to a friend, and from that friend to yet another friend. The fans did need to be replaced once, but we think that's because the second friend to get it used an air compressor air gun to dust out the case and absolutely hammered the fans wihtout knowing better. My current AIO has been going strong for 5 years now. I think the ticket is to not buy a fancy new model AIO that has been untested by time, and instead to opt for something that has been truly tested by the community due to the sheer amount of time that is has been on the market and considered reliable.
Personally, I'll never not us an AIO but I understand being burned so bad you'd never wanna look back either.
@@Enixious99 They used to be the premier memory maker in the market. I remember building my first PC in the 1990s, and Corsair was THE name that you trusted
At least their PSUs are still really good, esp in the SFF space. Just grabbed one of their new SFX 750W, since their last SF750 was one of the most revered in the SFF space.
@@eugenepark9665 that's honestly wild to me, I built my first PC in 2015, and by then g.skill had already eclipsed them in reliably and performance. Cool tho, I enjoy learning about the history of PC building
When looking at new cases to do my wife's build in, I noticed some of the corsair cases just lacking quality control. I then found the Montech cases and honestly for the price, the quality is so much better than anything in that range ( honestly Montech could charge 10-20% more and it would still be a better buy ) but going back to the quality of Montech. They have designs and ideas which both cater to those who want something basic and useful yet they offer other cases that just go head to head with those that run $50-$100 and have the same quality. I can't wait for the new Montech Sky 3 Performance coming out next year but the Sky Two GX is truly one hell of a case!
Corsair peaked last decade, they haven’t done anything interesting or innovative for years IMO. Corsair was always an excellent brand especially for memory in the earlier days. Now I don’t think of Corsair as a premium brand at all.
would still buy RAM and PSU from them but anything else I won't touch
Probably the icue, thats about it
That you have to buy a 15 dollar piece of plastic so you can route your cables is absolutely insane. I wondered where corsairs cases went. Completely forgot about them tbh since phanteks has been doing so well for so many years. Fractal doing some decent stuff. Lian Li has been putting out some bangers. They don't even really have the AIO or fan market cornered off anymore which they used to 5 or so years ago. As i write this comment, PSUs! they used to be the goto PSU brand as well. Not anymore. Wtf happened.
Agree they should be included, but they are metal not plastic, I ordered them with my case and panels all at once.
15 plus tax and delivery. Closer to 25 dollars really...after paying 200 for this low quality junk box.
after 4 mins i thought how can it get worse, then I saw the hard drive tray lmfaooo
Have to say , Montech is really killing it right now , can’t blame them put Montech‘s case as sponsor😂
A case sponsor might not be right for this video.
Lolz
ngl I thought it was a joke of sorts at first 💀
Its perfect since it actually proves a point :). Cheaper and better cases are out there for the picking
It's perfect
Nah it’s perfect
Finally one honest review about this case... corsair is demential, the new fans are really bad, the aios performance is also awful 😢
Not to speak of their iCUE bloatware, absolute trash.
their fans and AIOs have been ass since about the first couple iterations a decade ago. They got left behind quick in coolers and tbh their fans were never any good. loud, expensive and poor performing.
@@_M.... True and agreed unfortunately.
I am glad that cases don't get old.
Last time I had a Corsair case was the Carbide series like...12 years ago? I've moved to SFF since then and the only Corsair product i'll continue to endorse are their SFX power supplies, they're just the best.
Same. I remeber when the 400R/500R came out. My sandybridge pc was in the 500R.
I still daily drive a 15 year old Lian Li case. Outside of water cooling support it does everything a PC case does today, still looks amazing, because Lian Li made their cases fully from aluminum back then. To be honest, the garbage flimsy pot metal that most cases are made from today by every manufacturer is why I still use my vintage case.
I have a lianli o11 air mini whicj im keeping for rtx 5000s. It has really good build quality. The top,front and side panels have lipped pver metal to reinforce the rigidity. Was amazed it was just $150 sgd. Better than even my fractal r5 and meshify c for build quality.
not to mention that corsair probably manufactures these for $20 each somewhere in asia then sets this ridiculous prices for quality you'd expect from a sub $50 case
I love my 4000D airflow! I got it for $80 a few years ago and it's been great. It replaced my 200R I got in 2013. My next case will not be from Corsair.
The same happened to all their other products. They went from enthusiast to mass market when they went public
You can easily see a parallel to the point where Corsair went publicly traded, and their drop off in quality. Now they're just trying to leverage their brand name while producing the cheapest products possible. I used to use their product often, but now I generally avoid them.
I bought one 4000d at almost launch and one for a new build 6 months ago. Its a night and day difference in build quality and cost.
I noticed Seiko Sports 5 with orange dial. Good selection there mate! ;)
I remember back about 15 years ago when Corsair was a mid to upper-mid tier brand. They had pretty good value products. Now they are upper tier, but without the tangible reasons. I'd get Lian Li stuff over them any day. Same with Noctua, etc. on the high end. I really don't understand how they have remained so big. I can get quality budget stuff from Montech, Thermalright, Arctic, ID Cooling, DeepCool on the lower end. It's like Pizza Hut or McDonalds. There is literally no reason I'd get their stuff.
I have used my Corsair 5000D for 3 different builds now. I refuse to buy new stuff from them due to having to pay SO MUCH more for less with them.
I have that same case
I love it
it's so good
Yeah, I used to be a corsair fanboy years ago. But they don't make good cases and peripherals anymore.
I like InWin. I've still got 2 909s going strong, I like it that you can basically take the frame out of the case because they use screws (great for adding lightstrips beneath the front).
The rivets on the hinges are extremely easy to break. I was able to fix the one I was working on by driven them out and placing small screws and nuts but I was amazed how cheaply their cases are made. Lian Li for now on.
They need to start over with a remastered Vengeance C70
Fully agree. Those cases are badass but a few redesigns and even an mATX version would be sick
Still have mine in green since 2016
Yes.
I actually still rock that case till this day with a small modification to the side plexiglass panel.
I own two 4000d Airflow cases myself and would like to continue using them, but an upgrade with a few more fans, especially in terms of the space for the graphics card, would be nice. If you look at the manufacturers in general, they all just make copies, not enough of their own ideas, and the prices are going up, which is extreme.
Thankfully i got my 1000D day one it released haven't had to change out my case since.
You will probably need a crane to move it out when you change it, hahaha.
@@eliadbu na I had to carry it from the canada post truck because the delivery guy said there is a 30KG limit they can lift.
Hahaha I can move it without issue.i built a custom baseboard with wheels.
@@shadowarez1337 I still have their 900D for an old system, with dual loop 2x480 rads and other shit. I fucking hate moving that thing around, especially in stairs, I can see myself one day breaking my back lifting it. Soon they will release the 9000D which is stupendously larger.
@@eliadbu I must own it 🤣💪
your description of corsair in that opening was funny to me because that's how I've seen them for at least the past 10 years, or more
In Indonesia lian li evo rgb is more expensive than 6500x about 18-20 usd.
So many shattered glass panels on Reddit. 😲
I used to be a huge Corsair fan, i looked into quite a few of their cases to build my main rig, since i had a budget case at the beginning. When i finally decided to upgrade, the best option was the O11 mini, and i'm still happy with it. Weird to see them go this way.
From Graphite 600T and Obsidian cases to this, omg....
good video, hope there is a Antec C5 review in coming, choosing a case is proving to be hard lol
Good thing im going for the 4000d ig
Corsair has alot to fix, i wonder what caused this all to happen?
I wonder have you had issues with their fans?
That stripped screw has happend to me on the 7000D too! They don't even sell the hinge as a spare part.
i wish i wouldve seen this video 4 months ago when i bought this case. i would have gone another route...i think it looks good, but building in it was a hassle, my biggest complaint it the LED light on the power button, it flashes when in sleep mode and its not a dim light either, this PC sits in my room and when i put it in sleep mode, i have to cover it other wise i cant sleep with this bright ass strobe light going off in my room.
the three words that all designers and artists fear: SHARE. HOLDER. VALUEEEEEE
My last build (around Intel 12th gen release) was done in a 4000D Airflow. Got it exactly because it reminded me of the days when corsair made actually legendary cases like the Carbide and Graphite series!
I'm still waiting for the 380t to come in stock to replace the stopgap case I used for the pc I built 10 years ago.
When that PE firm bought them it was over. They went from good value, reliability and great customer support to whatever is left now. Still make some great products, particularly PSUs, but yea they're not the same. And it's sad because they were one of the biggest case innovators in the 2010's that introduced and made popular many features that took the chassis market forward.
I've noticed this has been happening alot with cases and coolers companies get complacent and then slip with quality while increasing prices.
I had a Corsair obsidian 800D years ago. It was a huge hot box. The airflow was awful in it and my hardware used to get very hot inside it.
My corsair 2500x got bended in a weird away after installing a radiator on the top, had a hard time putting the glass pannels back after that. I used to love corsair, i bought their case thinking it would at least be comparable in quality to the O11 air mini, it was not.
I have the 2000D and it's disappointing GPU temps where terrible until uninstall the extra fans at the back and the case is too big for mini ITX.
I have a 110R. HDD cages that can't be installed if the PSU is already installed seem to be a running theme with Corsair...
If the case of UA-camr says it's a bad case then it just is. Thank you for saying how it is and holding manufacturers accountable!
I've had my Air 540 for like 10 years now and I've loved it . I've wanted to build my next build in the 6500D Airflow.......🥺
One of my favorite case was Corsair 7000D, but wow... this is just sad :(
Check it out the Montech XR , I have designed a 3D printed shrouds connected to exhaust the hot air generated by the water cooling AIO outside of my room, just like a range hood, The downside is that I have to modify my upper windows to accommodate the exhaust pipe.
I recently bought a new case. I'm honestly not a huge fan of the new cube style cases. It kind of sucks because that is nearly what every manufacturer jumped on board with and I feel like there is less variety in general. Its a little large but I picked up a Enthoo Pro 2 Server Edition with a glass panel. I'm really happy with the case, from a design standpoint, function came before form. Exposed PSU, big GPU support bracket, little styling. Its honestly what I like most about the case.
I have the 540 as my currently case. but if you wanna go for a 4090 in it. that is longer 320, you need to go with AF120 slim version. if not, you gotta go with the FE for the 4090 to have 25mm thick fans in the front
From afar, it doesn't seem the grommet discoloration is super noticeable. Weird though. Blinking lights will probably make it even more invisible.
Corsair carbide 275R was my first case back in 2020. Not bad for the price but should have bought the airflow version. Now have a H7 Flow 2022. I won’t get any case unless it has front fans with mesh. I don’t get the point of side fans blowing at glass. Corsair 4000D/5000D aren’t too bad. A case like the 5000D with the current Y mesh holes instead of triangles, non-tinted glass on the black model, a little more offset toward the glass panel for the AIO and no swinging door on the back would be a nice case.
I'm still rocking my 600c because finding a decent case with an inverted ATX layout is tough.
I have several Corsair 2000Ds they are great cases, just not set up the way they wanted. You can fit 6 3.5” HDDs in them with decent thermals for a NAS.
I'm quite surprised...I own a 500D premium SE RBG edition and the quality is so good. Things change I guess thanks for the video !
Got a battered 900D in the hallway that I got second hand, going to build my next major upgrade in that. Haven't seen anything from Corsair that I'd consider better.
Still have the 7000D Airflow but there are so many nice fishtanks that hold large GPUs now, it's something to think about if I had to do over, plenty of great 99 fishtanks.
Bought the Define S because of this channel. Still waiting for something like that to come out. Even the S2 was more focused on looks instead build quality than than S was.
Not only that, the MATX cutouts for BTF boards are covered by the PSU.
Air 540 was my favorite case and I wish they upgraded it for better air flow and add Type C.
I've decided to stick with Fractal Design or Lian Li for enclosures as they are around the same price but offer a bit more features or airflow.
I just built in it with not a single issue. Came highly recommended from a few threads. Maybe not your cup of tea but definitely not a bad case.
The dual-chamber cases are too thick for my desks, so they are an instant NO from me. I don't even really like their "fish tank" look.
I have a Corsair 5000D which is sort of ok, it has some really bad fitting parts in many areas, it is holding my Xeon W7-2495X, ASUS W790 ACE, 512GB, RTX3090. I used to buy NZXT cases like the H440, I still have a couple of them filled with X99 systems. I actually prefer the Lian Li cases now. I have a Lancool II Mesh for my R9-5950X, ASUS ROG X570, 128GB, RX7800XT. I just bought a new Lian Li Lancool III Mesh for my next system I am building now, an R9-7900X or the R9-9900X if it is better when it releases in a couple of weeks, ASUS ROG X670E, 192GB, RTX3080. I develop software and games, so I have many development and test systems here.
Almost bought it, but I decided to get the O11 Dynamic Evo XL instead.
I've been thinking about possibly upgrading my pc to the new corsair case (I have the 680x)just for something more modern, bigger compatibility (parts are getting big) and to change it up a bit. But as much as I liked this corsair one initially... I gotta say, y'all really made good points. Lian li's o11d Evo rgb looks so cool. And cheaper!
I e not had a Corsair case for years, my last two cases have been Lian Li, currently got the Evo XL. However I will say I all Corsair water cooling tubing pump and fittings, and they are awesome.
For cases: just buy a lian li lancool 216. it's around 140€ so on the expensive side but it's almost unmatched in terms of temps, it comes with 2 160ml fans up front (which is my favourite style of fan config when it comes to appearance) a fan in the back and an argb+fan hub.
The hub is holding 4 120ml arctic p12 argb fans and the two 160ml fans upfront all on its own, so you probably won't need more.
I have a 7800X3D with a Thermalright PA, and an ASUS TUF 7900xt in it and it's never given me problems, temps never go above 80°C for the CPU and 70°C for the GPU, tested in cinebench and Haven Benchmark 4.0 at max settings.
RIP Corsair. I'm in the same boat. I've had 2 or 3 of their cases in the last decade. A couple month ago I started shopping and clearly they flew off my list real fast. Went for a Fractal one instead. Very nice stuff.
i love my corsair case mid tower damped silence case matt black and no color. just love it and hant needed another case for years since leaving the mod scene behind to focus on development
They shifting focus to accessories these days. Damn shame 😢
Holy shit! I’ve not seen y’all’s videos in years. Y’all fr stepped up your game
Will you do a review about Phanteks XT Pro Ultra?
Would be nice to see if it will compete with Montech Air 903 Max for budget cases.
I totally agree. After being a long time fan of Corsair products I've been finding it difficult to support a lot of their current line of cases. Not just this review but other reviews have been pointing out the higher costs and cheaper build quality. Looks like I may have a Lian Li or Fractal Design case in my future Ryzen 9000 build.
I have Corsair keyboards and an SSD and a Scimitar mouse, and I've used their RAM on and off for years. Those are competitive, good products. I'm not sure why with cases and monitors it seems like they get very expensive and are not better than competitors. For sure there is more competition these days, and some companies like Montech have figured out keeping production costs down with acceptable quality. Thumbs up.
i just want an updated case like the thermaltake corex5. a nice decent sized cube case or a case that focuses on horizontal layout
Lian Li are my favorite when it comes to cases conception. I've a Dynamic XL that I've bought 2 years ago and I still love it. It's not only the cases. I love their Uni fans too. I find the the concept of linking the fans with each other really cool. Lian Li products have generally nice design.
4000D was great, I’m using it now. Everything since has looked pretty dodgy.
why is the side panel held on with a screw? there have been plenty of hinged case side panels that just pop off.
I wanted this Cass badly when I realized it can support backward facing mobos. But that price to me didnt make any sense as no fans were included. I went with Monetech K95P and I like it way better.
Does the scope of this change of philosophy extend beyond cases? Are their open loop water cooling kits still good?
I noticed this back in 2021 when they released the 4000d, 5000d, and 7000d. All the sheet metal used was incredibly thin and easy to bend. It wasn't quite paper, but it was far thinner than any case material I had encountered before. I was okay with this for the various panels, but for the fan mounts, it just seemed they were under-built. It was like the expectation was that fans would be installed, and the case could rely on the structure of the fan for overall rigidity. No bueno.
I can only assume since they got away with it with those cases, that mentality continued with subsequent product offerings. A real shame, since Corsair has been such a good brand, otherwise.
Someone should call their engineering dept. and let them know that heavy cases ARE okay. It's a desktop. Generally they aren't meant to be portable.
I moved my system out of a Corsair 5000X RGB TG case that weighed a ton into a Fractal North XL which looks better, weighs less, and is easier to build in. My Corsair AIO just had its pump die as well, so I'm definitely avoiding the brand going forward.
Well this is why I went with Thermal Take and I'm kinda iffy about selling my 800D and I know somebody will buy it cause it's a good case, just has old USB plugs.
As someone who was a fan of corsair for years i’ve been recently super disappointed with them.
Its like they are so focused on iCue and creating this “corsair ecosystem” that they are screwing up the core products. iCue is meant to COMPLIMENT products and not be the product itself!
Just look at their fans’ pricing. Super out of touch. Their fans have the best lighting solution, yes, but is really worth more than a noctua? Their AIOs are the same. They are not competitive in terms of performance. The only upside is the software integration.
Till date my favourite case was the 600T. Legendary case which showed the world what a gaming case can be and set the standard. But gone are those days.
They're trying to build the cult of Corsair instead of just keeping people happy with good products for good prices
They're busy chasing the fame lian li has built with its ecosystem and cable-less design that they forgot to do some innovation and quality control, They even released a performance fan with no rgb for 30 usd when you can buy an arctic p12 fan for 5-7 usd and has better performance. Atleast phanteks did it right even if they copied lian lI, Now that lian li has released their wireless fans and cables, corsair would probably chase their fame again
@@HKl1502 Arctic fans have AWFUL quality control, sure they're cheap but quite a lot of them have big problems with resonance and vibrations.
@@kristoffer3000 I think that's the older batch of p12's , New one's that came out have better hubs, my friend been using his for 2 years no issues
0:13 The Corsair 4000E is The case for my rig, i just realised it🤣
I built my newest gaming pc in the 6500X. It definitely has a few pain points that make you wonder what they were thinking. The biggest one to me is the harddrive bay. It just makes zero sense. I would have rathered they push the power supply further to the bottom and then bring the harddrive bay with it.
The only Corsair case that ever sparked my interest was the Air 540, in a lay-down configuration. Like the Cooler Master HAF XB EVO. Although I feel the EVO is superior in every way to the 540, the 540 was refined and elegant (in appearance). I wish Case designers would design more "Dual-chamber" cases in the lay-down configuration. The case I am absolutely going to buy for my next PC build that will (must) last me five years minimum, is the Montech King 95 (non-pro). Unless Asrock releases a FTB motherboard with the X870e chipset (which the King 95 doesn't have cutouts for the back connectors). Then I will have to re-evaluate. Or maybe I'll just get another EVO. Regardless, I'm sick and tired of current case designs. That's why I am so excited about the FTB mobo designs. It hopefully breaks the stagnation of current case designs.
i am rocking a 5000d airflow atm, it's cool.
I have waited SO long for this video to happen. Corsair went downhill since their whole acquisitions thing. I miss old Corsair.
Lian Li has always been a top brand... Everyone wanted those all aluminum cases back in the day. The hard drive cage was meant to be accessed from the rear of the case, not removed.
I recently bought a Corsair Graphite 600T, cuz i saw it for a ridiculously low price and i wanted to treat myself.
So i bought it, i love how it looks, it's great to build in.
Then i stripped the panels and shrouds only to find the metal backbone of the case
IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE Corsair 4000, except that it has a 5.25" bay, but the shape, the gromits, almost literally everything is the same
Which honestly just leads me to believe, that they invented the Best case in 2013 and just put a different spin on it every now and then, but now since every case has to be minimalist, they can't really do no more spins or anything, so they try new stuff and they realise they haven't done anything new in 10 years, so they suck
I always like these guys and their take on products and some of their points are valid about the 6500. However, having a case sponsor for this video really puts objectivity in question here. I have built in the 6500 for clients and although it is clearly flawed, there are some excellent features as well. Also, there really needed to be some additional homework here by the reviewer.
1) For instance, I ran into the issue with the screw on the case front door as well. However, Corsair provided guidance on this and explained that if an owner simply fully opens the door the first time, it will allow the screw to be removed. After the first removal, the screw now come out without issue every time. Is it an issue with QC? Somewhat. But not the huge issue it was presented as by the reviewer.
2) Should the back panel be perfectly straight and not look like it was warped? Sure. But it locks into the back of the case solidly without any gaps. I don't know about the reviewer, but I never remove the back panel outside of when I'm working on a case, so who cares if it's not perfectly straight when removed?
3) His claim that you could not use 140mm fans on the side panel was categorically untrue. I have three Thermaltake SWA fans on the 6500 I've been working on and they fit with no problem.
4) Are the grommets in the white case a slightly different shade of white? Maybe, but in most builds, it won't even be seen.
5) The thumbscrews on the PCIE slots? Really? I can't think of a single case where I've been able to unscrew these without a screwdriver. And I do 200 to 3oo build a year.
Now there are some things I wish had been addressed, especially around cable management and the drive sled (although most people rarely use the drive sled anymore) .
But for the sale prices you can easily find on these cases, this is a solid entry and worth a look.
I built Corsair long ago 10 years or so and still use it lov it but now hmm sad news for sure. least your not jumping others band wagons and do your own reviews that I respect. I see so many doing harsh vid's on parts and pieces and it upsets my mind but you folks do it correctly spot on good work thanks. Like the air cooler stuff also.
Original O11 was so good, I don't see myself replacing it anytime soon
Corsair was my goto, but their cost cutting in recent designs and they were also one of the manufactures that was putting glass on all sides with no concern for air flow in the late 2010s. Corsair feels like they are operating in a vacuum their prices only get higher and quality lower despite all of the competition in the space right now.