lol you are funny: "If you wanna preserve your ego, just turn of this video or live in denial." Great video, as always. Very informative and covering interesting 'rare' mbti subjects :).
Wow, the ISTP hidden agenda is crazy accurate for me! I get this feeling that I can take on the world and I really wanna go on an adventure or something, but I just don't have a good cause to work for. Sometimes I will binge read philosophy books trying to find some higher standard to live after, but I just end up with more questions than answers. If I do find some inner sense of inspiration it's usually not strong enough to keep me loyal to it, I need to hear it from someone else who can see it more clearly. Very insightful and original video!
I agree. My brother is an ISTP and an avid Trump supporter. He actually seems to believe and trust Trump and needs that world view to follow. I feel kind of sad for him because I think it will hurt him if he ever realizes he's been a pawn in Trump's game. I was thinking the other day I should help my brother feel more of a way to feel inspired with something else. As an INTJ, my dominant function is Ni so I think I maybe could help with this. I don't know.
The hidden agenda of the INTJ and the ISTJ sounds very intriguing. You should do a whole video on just their hidden agenda and break it down in further depth.
INTP: A head-on-collision that I shouldn't have survived got me into a carpe diem kindof place. You have to enjoy the moment and go get what you want. You can't leave things unsaid or be cautious to the point of indecision because you don't know when it will end... it could be any moment. You have to stick your neck out. Before that, yeah... OH YEAH. It took a crash like that to snap me out of it. .
That is beautiful (in a way) when those things happen. I mean I understand it must be frightening. I didn't have quite what you experienced. But I went thru a spell of dizziness for a couple weeks which I thought I might never recover from, which made me kind of lose my conscious awareness. When it ended it just made me appreciate just having conscious awareness in life. Maybe INTPs and INFPs need to all have near-death escapes :P
As an ENFJ, I feel like you totally got it all wrong. We're not trying to be really chill or anything, I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't even CARE what people think of me. Ever. I swear I'm cool. *sobs*
You dont need to push it all the way through cause every personality has its own flaws and not everthing can be accurate since anyone can also have thier other partial personality because its still there, there are some exceptions too you know
you're some ESFJ what ENFJ yes we care yes we are cool, no we don't really show off defend ourselves. You sound like a miss typed ISTP or ESFJ, what kind of behavior are you showing you're clowning around? No intutive depth simply presentation.
I’m an intp and I find that inaccurate because despite weighing the possibility of something, the probability of it’s occurrence determines how important it is when deciding whether or not to do that thing. Life is repeated gambling or you’ll never enjoy it, physically.
As an INTP, when my life is playing out in a way that aligns 100% with my desires or goals, I may choose the play it safe for a while. However, I tend to get very impatient or become bored and complacent without instant gratification. This is when my creative side starts kicking in and I become an extremely impulsive risk taker. Especially if I think there's a large enough reward to justify the risk. The reward tends to manifest in achieving something quicker, or with less overall effort in the execution. I think that my Si gives me a sense of safety in the event my impulsive risk taking doesn't pan out the way I'd initially hoped for. I can just come up with some other creative process to get back to where I want to be and still be closer to my goals than I would have initially. I also feel more at ease in these situations where my effort is directed toward problem solving instead of execution or waiting. Edited for grammar
LOL, I know that was so funny and cute. I have a good friend/boss who is an ISFJ and I can totally imagine her doing this. LOL She's a dear friend and bless her heart, she's just not as sharp with the Ti as she wants to be. But we love her anyway.
I think I'm an INFP and your description made my heart skip a beat! I was a little shocked, lol. I believe my husband is an INTJ and it seems about right too! I'm impressed.
I actually found this kind of funny. I'm an INTP and I'm very much a "fuck it" kind of person. Not really in the sense of thrillseeking, but more in the sense of "live in the moment and be as much of a hedonist as possible". I have many unhealthy habits, but I love it because it's what makes me happy and I realise that if we all spend life constantly worrying, we never really live. Just my obligatory 2 cents of an INTP lmao.
He mentioned towards the end of the video that people can go to extremes when dealing with their hidden agenda. Apparently, they're either all in on it or work completely against it.
INTP here. I feel like this used to be me when I was a teenager and mostly an act to gain adults trust lol I was more cautious though hmmm 🤔 I quickly learned that there will always be way too many possibilities and variables and I really only need an overall understanding. Pretty much all decisions will include an outcome with me there to navigate... and so I love to explore!! There's so much to take in!! I love my "NiNa adventures" as they have been nicknamed haha!
I do mean significant life decisions too. I do often wonder if I'm eventually gonna get knocked on my ass 😁 I find that as an INTP others often worry about me and even I wonder how I have my shit together. But if you know an INTP well you know there's order to the madness 🤓
Wow! This video helped me see the types IRL more than any other video I have watched. (And I have watched a lot!) INFP/INFj keeps coming up for me with everything you cover.....I can see all of my family do clearly from this video! Thank you.
I relate to Si in the way you described that need to express humility and modesty. I relate to Ti in the way you described the need to understand the universe (quite literally in my case) and also being defensive about having such ideas and philosophies disavowed. I relate to Ni in basically the same way as Ti. Having beliefs trampled on. The last two might be my Fi values being struck down though. Such beliefs and ideas about reality are fundamental to me and who I am, so it could just be that.
This was pretty good! ENFJ/INFJ one was spot on (my sister and mum are exactly like that). I'm just not sure on the ESFJ/ESTJ (Ne) description. To me it seems more like they want to come across more easygoing, cool and openminded than they really are. Also, it seems like your computer could do with a bit of dedusting I could hear the fan going mental just as your video started skipping a bit xD.
interesting what you mention about Si HA! I think I have been putting off looking more into how my HA manifests due to more interest in the other functions...it is certainly useful to hear about how Si HA manifests in EIIs and LIIs, but personally speaking, I did not relate to it... On IEI, I think what you mentioned matches up well with what I have encountered as well, though I was never quite sure why it was like that, as it seemed to me there was no real effort to understand what the other person was saying in those cases, and just impose their own view regardless. I had kind of assumed the "knowing-ness" came from the Ni, and doubling down on own viewpoint despite others saying something reasonable - perhaps Te PoLR was a little at fault there. But Ti HA could also explain a part that it could play in this...yeah. And you are right, I think they attempt to come across as logical, and would probably like it if others saw them that way as well. As for Si, I actually think I am more careful than I have seen some Se valuing types be. Despite being SX dom, I have never done anything totally "crazy," and even if I take risks, I am actually quite conscious of how it might hurt me. That being said, in day-to-day life, I think I neglect Si since my attention goes to other things.
I get what you mean about infps and intps I noticed that last week when I told my friend I needed to bring extra equipment in for an exam just in case and she told me i am a "very incase person" :D
Intp. Logic says I don't have the means to do something effectively. There is no risk in knowing what will work & what wont. I'll just figure it out & get back to ya when I come to an indecision.
I really like these "tough love" videos! While unrelated to this particular discussion, have you considered making a video on how to determine Enneagram type? I've always had difficulty making sense of Enneagram and would be interested in your insights.
Hilarious. Such an enticing intro: "So prepare to feel really awkward about yourself . . . " hahaha. [getting some popcorn.] Ah, but your kindly, humourous manner puts some butter on it all. :-)
Could there be a text box indicating the types you're currently talking about ? As a non-native English speaker it's sometimes hard for me to remember the 2*4 letters I've heard a bit before - specially since my language pronounces the letter "I" as yours pronounce "E" ;-/ Also ideally a recap, probably as an image, would be greaaat so we don't need to re-watch the video when we're looking for an idea we've liked. For the "Spot an [...]" series, this recap would have been just each page of faces with the associated type name. Ideally ideally, time indications for every "part" of the video would be great. Thanks for everything !
How is it that there are so many INTP in the comment section? Maybe I'm just looking for my own type among the comments, but it seems like there are so many.
INTPs are over represented in MBTI conversations and places like Reddit. They make their presence known in these areas but are mostly overlooked in real life social situations haha.
No, Fi. That was my point in saying that I'm an INTP first. My weaker functions could be more supported by some theories of Socionics stackings: INTj - - > Ti-(Ni)-Ne-Fi-Se
Here's a link to my Socionics test result: www.sociotype.com/tests/result/est/156516#sthash.V8bh7vuL.dpuf In this case INTj is functionally the INTP equivalent. Similarly to how our friend making these videos calls the relative introverted/extroverted function "strong but unvalued," socionics suggests that an INTj's strongest functions are Ti, Ne, Ni, and Te, but consciously uses and puts focus on Ti-Ne. Similarly, Fi, Se, Fe, and Si are all weaker functions, but in this theory Fi and Se are the consciously preferred functions. Personally, I feel like my only extroverted function preference is Ne, and maybe some small amount of the Je functions used for control of environment.
i know isfp friend in class that was presenting a movie she like, and then she goes on using their Se to present their Ni and she looks very like excited boomboom about the movie theory and all the cool stuff that she found in it
I want to show I've knowledge like what you said about (Te). I'm very boring and cautious, saving things for a rainy day like you mentioned about (Si). I want to do things my way, even if it goes against the expectations like you mentioned about (Fi).
I don't necessarily think intense belief in and of itself is a tertiary Ni thing, but rather a focus on symbols or ideals that transcend the senses to the point of absolutism. I, as an INTP, have always had strong beliefs, yet a common trend is simply ditching them or modifying them to the point of unrecognizability. At around 16, my Ne went on an exploration binge to find the greatest breadth of ideals possible under the banner of Christianity, yet I couldn't settle on a singular denomination or set of principles. I then left it amd became an atheist after two years of vigilant study of the Bible, and I feel far less conflicted due to these loose Atheistic principles, allowing my Ne to flourish.
choosing a behaviour and creating a spectrum out of it then telling us a type can be at either sides of that spectrum makes it seem to be true by way of confirmation bais, example: if you choose any of the behaviours you detailed and applied it to any type it can fit the narrative which makes the "tip" flawed
Oh wow, this is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo true. I'm not even to my hidden agenda yet (INTP), but I'm going to say this right now and it's only 1 minute in. My tertiary is Si, I can't tell you how many times I have been so embarrassed by exposing this.
Chris can you give an example? Great video but I'm still trying to figure out how this manifests in INTP. I'm thinking the tertiary Si causes me to come up with "reasons" for not acting but everyone can clearly see that I'm just being lazy/spineless
Well, I"m not sure that mine manifest in exactly the way that is explained here, but this concept still holds true. What I was thinking of when this video started was another explanation I've heard of how awkward INTPs become when expressing via their Si. Another facet of Si is that it is responsible for sorting through our past experiences and memories. From what I can tell this makes one very sentimental, while at the same time INTPs care little for subjectivity and have a great deal of trouble actually living and feeling in the present. I understand that INTPS struggle with emotions and emotional expression, but it's more than a weak Fe. If you couple it with the rear facing Si of our tertiary trait what you get is not just someone who struggles with their inner emotional child, but someone who really only feels things after the fact. I know this is the case for me at least. My emotions are suppressed during an event, but my Si recalls them later and begins the process of sorting them out, often handing them up to my Ti to help process and assess them. Something about Si's need to preserve and our general attention to detail makes us hold on to every fact and facet of an experience. I don't really know how to explain this, but because of this combination, I am very sentimental and because Si is rear facing, time doesn't really change how I was left feeling from an experience or personal interaction. I can't tell you how many times I've embarrassed myself by meeting up with someone who I haven't seen in years when responding from my Si, rather than taking in new information from the present. Generally speaking I'll still try to strike the same emotional note that we left on, or that my Si brings most predominately to the surface. This is often amiss and can make the other person feel awkward. I can even come across clingy or needing in way that is also at the same time seemingly insincere because of my disconnect from the present. Which in truth, I am neither of these things; certainly I am not clingy and I am always sincere. I think the reason this is not received well and is such an embarrassment to INTPs is that we are left expressing something from the past with no or little emotional connection to the present. I'm really having trouble here trying to explain this but I can see how it interacts and it certainly involves more than just our tertiary trait. I guess what I saw in this analysis though was more how we struggle in our tertiary trait because we think we are strong in them when really we are more awkward than anything else here. It's somewhat like being blind to our Achilles heel. I understand how the health and safety factor plays into this. But for myself, I saw another angle here in how my Si at least overextends itself when trying to express what my Si is bringing to the surface when dealing relationally to others. There is more I could try to explain here, but my plate is so full right now I don't really have the time. I hope this at least gets the ball rolling and maybe you can relate it to yourself a little differently to see if anything here fits. If you have another question though that I could help narrow down for you, go for it.
Hi, INFP 4w5 here. I was wondering if you could type Ian Curtis, singer and lyricist of the 70's post-punk band Joy Division. I find him very intriguing and would love to hear your thoughts on what his type may be. Thanks!
Which types get offended by figuring out their MBTI type? Like, when they find their type and it perfectly describes them they get upset at how accurate it is and they feel insecure about the answer so they retake the test and change their answers to get a "better" type? I have a hard time typing someone because they're extremely insecure about how they look to other people. They base everything on feelings and will disregard logic and facts if it FEELS wrong.
God, I mean, I can kinda of see what you're saying here, I care a lot about having someone that recognizes me... But I'm actually super comfortable with having just 1 person who does and would find it weird and counter-intuitive to have a shitton of people praising me and telling me how FANTASTIC I am. (I'm an ENTP) but I'm always so much more comfortable when people ignore me or plain and simple don't really like me and therefore don't try to engage in conversation with me. I just want the people around me to not be obstacles or bother me with their mundane shit so I don't reach the inevitable boiling point of feeling really really awkward about having no other choice but to inform this person that they're really annoying me. (Is that still Fe? I'm usually doing this for the sake of the other individual, and the other reason is that I avoid this as much as I can because I don't want to be widely hated and regarded as a massive idiot)
I think my own tertiary ,though described well here in a general sense. Is that Fi values are constantly sought and evaluated, checked against what i all ready value and believe. and occasionally usually when listening to music or listening to philosophy I've loved either recently or that has endured for years. ill feel that ecstatic flow state. where it all seems to make sense and in an all too profound way. So illusive is Fi.
I 've been watched some of ur videos about mbti, and I think it's good, full of useful information I want to know. I showed one of ur videos to my friend but she's not really interested, although she usually like those kind of stuff (mbti, disc etc). I think it would be nice if you presented the video more appealing, like using a better quality camera or add some animation. if you have friend who can edit video nicely, it would be great to collaborate so people will be interested and your knowledge can be shared more :)
Some of this stuff just rings way too true. As an INTP I've had lots of fun logically picking apart my ENFP friend's belief in an afterlife without my Fe letting me know how butthurt he's getting until later. I've also read that Si makes people rely on their memory of past experience to figure out how to confront a situation. If that is our hidden agenda, I wonder if it could mean our memory is fallible! Kind of unrelated, but which function do you think is most responsible for appreciating gastronomic delights, such as enthusiasm for fine foods/booze?
I think I'm an ISFP, and either I don't get what you said about ISFPs'/ISTPs 3rd position Ni and the need to believe etc, or I maybe not an ISFP then, or maybe I'm just an exeption to this agenda-rule. (My 3rd position Ni tells me that the most likely answer is that I simply just did't get what you mean, but if that's the case, then it's an indication of that my 3rd position Ni is actually not THAT bad. :) )
As an INFJ too, I think it's because INFJs are regarded as social chameleons. Quoted from a tumblr post, "They can seem like any type, depending on which side of their multi-faceted, multi-layered personality they want to show you in whichever social context you happen to be in. " and the description fits me perfectly.
MBTI is not hard science however so far it's the best personality study (that I know of at least).. You can do the test multiple times and get a different answer each time but you'll see a trend and identify with 1 or 2 even 3 maybe.. Ppl are very complicated, you can also change your MBTI subconsciously over time according to your environment and changes in mentality etc.. We all change over time
Hey! So hidden agenda Ti?? hm I just found out about this concept and I think it's super interesting. My first thought was that my hidden agenda is to learn? Or maybe put differently to philosophize? hah I really do alter my internal framework to new info cos not tryna be close minded :P There's always more to learn! I can only hope that my current internal logic is sufficient. (I wish I had all the time in the world to read a bunch and then continue my life with all the knowledge hehe, horrible time management tho...)
Perhaps it has to do with a different upbringing. I believe I'm probably an exception to this agenda because most of my other INTP friends are definitely like that.
Greetings, Leon! First of all, great video. It struck a chord within me as an INTP. Interestingly enough, I am not at all (virtually speaking) concerned with physical matters, but, as a Christian, I think my lifestyle and, as you term it, philosophy seems to look as if it is restricting. I always tell and even chastise my friends and family members (even my parents… I got into some trouble but all's well - I got the grace of God) about how their ways of living was not reflecting the radical Jesus culture that God had adopted them into (though I cannot say I am sinless). I point out how their beliefs about the Roman catholic church has no biblical basis, and I rebel against their pagan ways. I warn them that after this life there is eternity, and God, though merciful and loving, will pour out His wrath against those who choose to defy Him, either openly or in more discreet manners; I perceive a multitude of "risks" even though perhaps there is "none". I just found it really interesting that what you were talking about was uniquely reflected in me. Shame on all our sinful and selfish ways. Send holy fire to Satan, our enemy. May God bless you, Leon. Jesus loves you.
I identify as INTP/ISTP. I have seen your videos. My hidden agenda functions (3rd) are simultaneously my unvalued joke functions (6th) (that are pretty strong). And my parent functions (2nd) are simultaneously my polr functions (7th). Is it possible for an individual to have 4 well-rounded perceiving functions?
+Tyler Chan You would need to figure out what type you are first. I'd like to be a superhuman too but a parent function cannot be a polr function, one function is obviously strong and the other weak.
Nah I'm infj but I think your explanation of infjs and isfjs only fits isfjs. I don't need to convince people so if they contradict me I don't care. also I'm not very factual/ultra logical.
Put it on double speed and it still took too long. INTJ. A script of the content would have helped. By the way, the word is "definitely," not "defiantly".
I'm not ideologicaly consistent generally, but there's this one ideology that I can't give up. I don't cheat on exams although everybody does it and yeah, people look at me as if I was retarded ;o
im intp and I don't hate people who have a Yolo pov in life.im like that to an extent...I like drugs etc idk exactly what you mean as in we love safety and security....do u mean something like hypothetically if an intp does a crime they'll plan it so they know they'll be safe and get away?
Oh and by the way, how is Se different from Ne? I know that Ne intuitively is more idea-oriented, so does that mean it is milder than Se? Because it's more about pattern-recognition in the outside world? Isn't pattern-recognition a more introverted approach than Se? Do I make sense? Ha. Thanks for answering my question, much appreciated :))))
+Mon Maryum Se in essence has to do with willpower. This willpower causes one to act and "just do it" (often before thinking if in a dominant position). Ne by nature is mental--it is about possibilities, it does not in itself lead to action. However we can't have the mental without the physical. So often an Se type bases action on a possibility he or she thought up...these types do not just keep brainstorming possibilities though (in fact, this will eventually lead to inaction, which N types experience). Ne types would also act--when possibilities excite them enough they may be willing to experiment with them.
Interesting...I generally think it better to work towards something rather than do the opposite. Doing the opposite is still being its slave. So being conscious of the hidden agenda one can amend its ways.
+Mon Maryum They are similar in level of weakness, and we try to put both of them on strongly, so yes! The difference is one is valued, and the other is unvalued.
+Type Tips Oh I see. But I think I prefer Ti more than Si for myself to present myself to people (I am an INFP too), so can that happen with INFP's? To want to show Ti more than Si for some reason? I feel drawn to Ti-users a lot too, even though I am crappy at Ti
+Mon Maryum I believe so. That is the nature of the role function--in order to communicate and relate to the world--that is the function present. The role function of an INFJ is Si, that is why they make the effort to help you relax when you meet them.
Being a laughing stock. For ENTPs this is a success... ;-) OK. my smile, softness (in terms physical attributes), expressiveness can be bit overdone when in the zone but I have no control over it (makes gammas angry). If you think about it, it is subconscious desire. It is not all bad: like hugging a sister's kid who is hitting me playfully: makes people amused. Best practice? Nope. Well, I think suggestive can be bit similar. What if I told you that you organised something well? It actually works even for suggestive. But yeah I have seen an INFP making medical check ups bit too over worked for the state they were at.
+Type Tips INFPs are going to react towards that very well. It works for suggestive as well in general... And now everyone thinks it is not sincere... Oh the irony.
*_Table of Contents_**:*
1:15 - ENTJ/ENFJ (Se)
2:56 - INTP/INFP (Si)
4:08 - ENFP/ESFP (Te)
5:16 - INFJ/ISFJ (Ti)
6:23 - ENTP/ESTP (Fe)
7:30 - INTJ/ISTJ (Fi)
8:33 - ISTP/ISFP (Ni)
9:56 - ESFJ/ESTJ (Ne)
haha thanks
Type Tips Thought I'd give back an infinitesimal amount. You've given us so much! :D
r u INTP? thanx you saved me a coupla minutes ;D
igrewold Haha, I'm an INFJ! :D Always glad to help, although the real help comes from Mr. Leon.
Thanks to him & you :]
www.16personalities.com/infj-personality
I read sumfin about you, they call you "Advocates" ;D
regards
lol you are funny: "If you wanna preserve your ego, just turn of this video or live in denial." Great video, as always. Very informative and covering interesting 'rare' mbti subjects :).
+Winand Callebaut Thanks Winand!
I'm confused, did you say that the hidden agenda of the INFP is to be boring?? That is my primary agenda.
lol
Totally agree I want to appear as boring as humanly possible so people just ignore me...
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Wow, the ISTP hidden agenda is crazy accurate for me! I get this feeling that I can take on the world and I really wanna go on an adventure or something, but I just don't have a good cause to work for. Sometimes I will binge read philosophy books trying to find some higher standard to live after, but I just end up with more questions than answers. If I do find some inner sense of inspiration it's usually not strong enough to keep me loyal to it, I need to hear it from someone else who can see it more clearly. Very insightful and original video!
Viktor ISTP as an intp, knowledge. Search for understanding, because that is the only thing that really matters. That’s the end goal.
I agree. My brother is an ISTP and an avid Trump supporter. He actually seems to believe and trust Trump and needs that world view to follow. I feel kind of sad for him because I think it will hurt him if he ever realizes he's been a pawn in Trump's game. I was thinking the other day I should help my brother feel more of a way to feel inspired with something else. As an INTJ, my dominant function is Ni so I think I maybe could help with this. I don't know.
The hidden agenda of the INTJ and the ISTJ sounds very intriguing. You should do a whole video on just their hidden agenda and break it down in further depth.
INTP: A head-on-collision that I shouldn't have survived got me into a carpe diem kindof place. You have to enjoy the moment and go get what you want. You can't leave things unsaid or be cautious to the point of indecision because you don't know when it will end... it could be any moment. You have to stick your neck out. Before that, yeah... OH YEAH. It took a crash like that to snap me out of it. .
That is beautiful (in a way) when those things happen. I mean I understand it must be frightening. I didn't have quite what you experienced. But I went thru a spell of dizziness for a couple weeks which I thought I might never recover from, which made me kind of lose my conscious awareness. When it ended it just made me appreciate just having conscious awareness in life. Maybe INTPs and INFPs need to all have near-death escapes :P
Intp I use danger to unlock se. Usually when I isolate myself to extreme
As an ENFJ, I feel like you totally got it all wrong. We're not trying to be really chill or anything, I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't even CARE what people think of me. Ever.
I swear I'm cool.
*sobs*
You dont need to push it all the way through cause every personality has its own flaws and not everthing can be accurate since anyone can also have thier other partial personality because its still there, there are some exceptions too you know
you're some ESFJ what ENFJ yes we care yes we are cool, no we don't really show off defend ourselves. You sound like a miss typed ISTP or ESFJ, what kind of behavior are you showing you're clowning around? No intutive depth simply presentation.
God I thought you were serious.
There there, it'll be alright, and hey if you get in a fight you can use those flashy heels as shirukens
LOL I do love ENFJs.
I’m an intp and I find that inaccurate because despite weighing the possibility of something, the probability of it’s occurrence determines how important it is when deciding whether or not to do that thing. Life is repeated gambling or you’ll never enjoy it, physically.
As an INTP, when my life is playing out in a way that aligns 100% with my desires or goals, I may choose the play it safe for a while. However, I tend to get very impatient or become bored and complacent without instant gratification. This is when my creative side starts kicking in and I become an extremely impulsive risk taker. Especially if I think there's a large enough reward to justify the risk. The reward tends to manifest in achieving something quicker, or with less overall effort in the execution. I think that my Si gives me a sense of safety in the event my impulsive risk taking doesn't pan out the way I'd initially hoped for. I can just come up with some other creative process to get back to where I want to be and still be closer to my goals than I would have initially. I also feel more at ease in these situations where my effort is directed toward problem solving instead of execution or waiting.
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"act like they do know then look up the answers later" haha
+Carrina Murphy heehee....yuup
;D
My Enfp mother
Thats lowkey adorable lol
LOL, I know that was so funny and cute. I have a good friend/boss who is an ISFJ and I can totally imagine her doing this. LOL She's a dear friend and bless her heart, she's just not as sharp with the Ti as she wants to be. But we love her anyway.
I think I'm an INFP and your description made my heart skip a beat! I was a little shocked, lol. I believe my husband is an INTJ and it seems about right too! I'm impressed.
I actually found this kind of funny. I'm an INTP and I'm very much a "fuck it" kind of person. Not really in the sense of thrillseeking, but more in the sense of "live in the moment and be as much of a hedonist as possible". I have many unhealthy habits, but I love it because it's what makes me happy and I realise that if we all spend life constantly worrying, we never really live.
Just my obligatory 2 cents of an INTP lmao.
He mentioned towards the end of the video that people can go to extremes when dealing with their hidden agenda. Apparently, they're either all in on it or work completely against it.
INTP here. I feel like this used to be me when I was a teenager and mostly an act to gain adults trust lol I was more cautious though hmmm 🤔
I quickly learned that there will always be way too many possibilities and variables and I really only need an overall understanding. Pretty much all decisions will include an outcome with me there to navigate... and so I love to explore!! There's so much to take in!! I love my "NiNa adventures" as they have been nicknamed haha!
I do mean significant life decisions too. I do often wonder if I'm eventually gonna get knocked on my ass 😁
I find that as an INTP others often worry about me and even I wonder how I have my shit together. But if you know an INTP well you know there's order to the madness 🤓
I like to tell people "Don't worry, there's a madness to my method"
-INTP
billybbob18 Or method to my madness? 🙃 Anyhow, yes! Love it!
I'm an INTJ and you're not the boss of me. You can't tell me what to do.
XD
artisanrox i liked to say that i only report to God and myself. Hee hee
Lance Combs is she an ESTJ.
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Wow! This video helped me see the types IRL more than any other video I have watched. (And I have watched a lot!) INFP/INFj keeps coming up for me with everything you cover.....I can see all of my family do clearly from this video! Thank you.
I relate to Si in the way you described that need to express humility and modesty.
I relate to Ti in the way you described the need to understand the universe (quite literally in my case) and also being defensive about having such ideas and philosophies disavowed.
I relate to Ni in basically the same way as Ti. Having beliefs trampled on.
The last two might be my Fi values being struck down though. Such beliefs and ideas about reality are fundamental to me and who I am, so it could just be that.
This was pretty good! ENFJ/INFJ one was spot on (my sister and mum are exactly like that). I'm just not sure on the ESFJ/ESTJ (Ne) description. To me it seems more like they want to come across more easygoing, cool and openminded than they really are. Also, it seems like your computer could do with a bit of dedusting I could hear the fan going mental just as your video started skipping a bit xD.
LOL Perfect Quote “If you want to peserve your ego, just turned off this video”
This is one of your best videos
i'm on one of those channel marathons so forgive me for forgeting to click thumbs up on every vid but i love all of them!! :)
heehee channel marthons! think of it as crossing the finish line every single time you make a lap, you click like :P
Great video
1:15 ENTJ/ENFJ
2:56 INTP/INFP
4:08 ENFP/ESFP
5:16 INFJ/ISFJ
6:23 ENTP/ESTP
7:30 INTJ/ISTJ
8:33 ISTP/ISFP
9:56 ESFJ/ESTJ
Very good! Every single one of those fits with what I've seen as well. So interesting!
True. Estjs think they are right and the rest of world is wrong and should bow down to them😕
@Adan Adan takes a fuckin lot to disprove you though
@Adan Adan idk
I am an ISTP and the leader of the cult I joined last week sent me here.
Lmao tf
interesting what you mention about Si HA! I think I have been putting off looking more into how my HA manifests due to more interest in the other functions...it is certainly useful to hear about how Si HA manifests in EIIs and LIIs, but personally speaking, I did not relate to it...
On IEI, I think what you mentioned matches up well with what I have encountered as well, though I was never quite sure why it was like that, as it seemed to me there was no real effort to understand what the other person was saying in those cases, and just impose their own view regardless. I had kind of assumed the "knowing-ness" came from the Ni, and doubling down on own viewpoint despite others saying something reasonable - perhaps Te PoLR was a little at fault there. But Ti HA could also explain a part that it could play in this...yeah. And you are right, I think they attempt to come across as logical, and would probably like it if others saw them that way as well.
As for Si, I actually think I am more careful than I have seen some Se valuing types be. Despite being SX dom, I have never done anything totally "crazy," and even if I take risks, I am actually quite conscious of how it might hurt me. That being said, in day-to-day life, I think I neglect Si since my attention goes to other things.
You're videos are very interesting!!! Power to the enfps!!!! 👊🏼
I think this is actually a mixture of the child and the trickster function
I get what you mean about infps and intps I noticed that last week when I told my friend I needed to bring extra equipment in for an exam just in case and she told me i am a "very incase person" :D
Im and INFJ and you nailed it hahaha. When people tell me that I have sound logic it makes my whole week.
Excellent video Leon!
Thank you!
Intp. Logic says I don't have the means to do something effectively. There is no risk in knowing what will work & what wont. I'll just figure it out & get back to ya when I come to an indecision.
Holy fuck, this was good. Thank you. Big fan, long time.
Good video, your insights accurately match behaviour of myself and others I've observed.
I really like these "tough love" videos! While unrelated to this particular discussion, have you considered making a video on how to determine Enneagram type? I've always had difficulty making sense of Enneagram and would be interested in your insights.
+Rose T. Dryad Ennagram I still have a challenge with in terms of that. thanks!
you hit INTJ spot on, at least in my case.
yes!! happy I did
Hilarious. Such an enticing intro: "So prepare to feel really awkward about yourself . . . " hahaha. [getting some popcorn.] Ah, but your kindly, humourous manner puts some butter on it all. :-)
+Enid F. Patternson Thanks Enid!
Could there be a text box indicating the types you're currently talking about ?
As a non-native English speaker it's sometimes hard for me to remember the 2*4 letters I've heard a bit before - specially since my language pronounces the letter "I" as yours pronounce "E" ;-/
Also ideally a recap, probably as an image, would be greaaat so we don't need to re-watch the video when we're looking for an idea we've liked. For the "Spot an [...]" series, this recap would have been just each page of faces with the associated type name.
Ideally ideally, time indications for every "part" of the video would be great.
Thanks for everything !
wow!!!! thx. thx for your awesome delivery on you tube also...positive
I am an ISFJ and this is so accurate.
That isfj one is on point, my friend is always wrong but will never admit it lol. I'm intj by the way.
I identify with the Si-Fi Hidden agendas by far. Your theory seems to be valid, as I am much of an INTJ/P.
How is it that there are so many INTP in the comment section? Maybe I'm just looking for my own type among the comments, but it seems like there are so many.
I think us INTPs are always looking for information so you're going to find us on UA-cam watching videos like this!
INTPs are over represented in MBTI conversations and places like Reddit. They make their presence known in these areas but are mostly overlooked in real life social situations haha.
Great video! Thanks 🙂
I'm an INTP, but your understanding of the Fi tertiary is the most resonating for me personally.
you mean Si?
No, Fi. That was my point in saying that I'm an INTP first. My weaker functions could be more supported by some theories of Socionics stackings: INTj - - > Ti-(Ni)-Ne-Fi-Se
+Robin Knickerbocker pls explain to me how this function stack is supposed to work again?
Here's a link to my Socionics test result: www.sociotype.com/tests/result/est/156516#sthash.V8bh7vuL.dpuf
In this case INTj is functionally the INTP equivalent.
Similarly to how our friend making these videos calls the relative introverted/extroverted function "strong but unvalued," socionics suggests that an INTj's strongest functions are Ti, Ne, Ni, and Te, but consciously uses and puts focus on Ti-Ne. Similarly, Fi, Se, Fe, and Si are all weaker functions, but in this theory Fi and Se are the consciously preferred functions. Personally, I feel like my only extroverted function preference is Ne, and maybe some small amount of the Je functions used for control of environment.
+Robin Knickerbocker no your role and POLR aren't valued, its your mobilizing and suggestive functions that are valued (in your case Si and Fe)
i know isfp friend in class that was presenting a movie she like, and then she goes on using their Se to present their Ni and she looks very like excited boomboom about the movie theory and all the cool stuff that she found in it
I want to show I've knowledge like what you said about (Te). I'm very boring and cautious, saving things for a rainy day like you mentioned about (Si). I want to do things my way, even if it goes against the expectations like you mentioned about (Fi).
I don't necessarily think intense belief in and of itself is a tertiary Ni thing, but rather a focus on symbols or ideals that transcend the senses to the point of absolutism. I, as an INTP, have always had strong beliefs, yet a common trend is simply ditching them or modifying them to the point of unrecognizability. At around 16, my Ne went on an exploration binge to find the greatest breadth of ideals possible under the banner of Christianity, yet I couldn't settle on a singular denomination or set of principles. I then left it amd became an atheist after two years of vigilant study of the Bible, and I feel far less conflicted due to these loose Atheistic principles, allowing my Ne to flourish.
Ni tertiary tends to come off as simple, straightforward, and clear, with a dogged Se persistence towards its realization.
Does anyone experience a lot of choppy-ness with the video's audio towards the end or is it just me?
I thought this video was going to be a lot darker lol
choosing a behaviour and creating a spectrum out of it then telling us a type can be at either sides of that spectrum makes it seem to be true by way of confirmation bais,
example: if you choose any of the behaviours you detailed and applied it to any type it can fit the narrative which makes the "tip" flawed
Oh wow, this is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo true. I'm not even to my hidden agenda yet (INTP), but I'm going to say this right now and it's only 1 minute in. My tertiary is Si, I can't tell you how many times I have been so embarrassed by exposing this.
Chris can you give an example? Great video but I'm still trying to figure out how this manifests in INTP. I'm thinking the tertiary Si causes me to come up with "reasons" for not acting but everyone can clearly see that I'm just being lazy/spineless
Well, I"m not sure that mine manifest in exactly the way that is explained here, but this concept still holds true. What I was thinking of when this video started was another explanation I've heard of how awkward INTPs become when expressing via their Si. Another facet of Si is that it is responsible for sorting through our past experiences and memories. From what I can tell this makes one very sentimental, while at the same time INTPs care little for subjectivity and have a great deal of trouble actually living and feeling in the present. I understand that INTPS struggle with emotions and emotional expression, but it's more than a weak Fe. If you couple it with the rear facing Si of our tertiary trait what you get is not just someone who struggles with their inner emotional child, but someone who really only feels things after the fact. I know this is the case for me at least. My emotions are suppressed during an event, but my Si recalls them later and begins the process of sorting them out, often handing them up to my Ti to help process and assess them.
Something about Si's need to preserve and our general attention to detail makes us hold on to every fact and facet of an experience. I don't really know how to explain this, but because of this combination, I am very sentimental and because Si is rear facing, time doesn't really change how I was left feeling from an experience or personal interaction. I can't tell you how many times I've embarrassed myself by meeting up with someone who I haven't seen in years when responding from my Si, rather than taking in new information from the present. Generally speaking I'll still try to strike the same emotional note that we left on, or that my Si brings most predominately to the surface. This is often amiss and can make the other person feel awkward. I can even come across clingy or needing in way that is also at the same time seemingly insincere because of my disconnect from the present. Which in truth, I am neither of these things; certainly I am not clingy and I am always sincere.
I think the reason this is not received well and is such an embarrassment to INTPs is that we are left expressing something from the past with no or little emotional connection to the present. I'm really having trouble here trying to explain this but I can see how it interacts and it certainly involves more than just our tertiary trait. I guess what I saw in this analysis though was more how we struggle in our tertiary trait because we think we are strong in them when really we are more awkward than anything else here. It's somewhat like being blind to our Achilles heel.
I understand how the health and safety factor plays into this. But for myself, I saw another angle here in how my Si at least overextends itself when trying to express what my Si is bringing to the surface when dealing relationally to others. There is more I could try to explain here, but my plate is so full right now I don't really have the time. I hope this at least gets the ball rolling and maybe you can relate it to yourself a little differently to see if anything here fits. If you have another question though that I could help narrow down for you, go for it.
Chris thank you that rings all kinds of bells for me and was extremely helpful!
Awesome, glad I could provide some insight. :)
Not an INTP, but this is fascinating, I´ll try to remember this and not make them feel so bad:P
I’m an ISFJ and that is accurate. But I will tweak the Ti logic if proven wrong.
Hi, INFP 4w5 here. I was wondering if you could type Ian Curtis, singer and lyricist of the 70's post-punk band Joy Division. I find him very intriguing and would love to hear your thoughts on what his type may be. Thanks!
INFP, 100%
Deep musicians tend to be INFPs. Think Morrissey, Kurt Cobain. Ian Curtis fits the profile too.
I prefer INFP and I definitely don't relate.
Which types get offended by figuring out their MBTI type? Like, when they find their type and it perfectly describes them they get upset at how accurate it is and they feel insecure about the answer so they retake the test and change their answers to get a "better" type? I have a hard time typing someone because they're extremely insecure about how they look to other people. They base everything on feelings and will disregard logic and facts if it FEELS wrong.
They perceive risks when there are none 😂
God, I mean, I can kinda of see what you're saying here, I care a lot about having someone that recognizes me... But I'm actually super comfortable with having just 1 person who does and would find it weird and counter-intuitive to have a shitton of people praising me and telling me how FANTASTIC I am. (I'm an ENTP) but I'm always so much more comfortable when people ignore me or plain and simple don't really like me and therefore don't try to engage in conversation with me. I just want the people around me to not be obstacles or bother me with their mundane shit so I don't reach the inevitable boiling point of feeling really really awkward about having no other choice but to inform this person that they're really annoying me. (Is that still Fe? I'm usually doing this for the sake of the other individual, and the other reason is that I avoid this as much as I can because I don't want to be widely hated and regarded as a massive idiot)
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I think my own tertiary ,though described well here in a general sense. Is that Fi values are constantly sought and evaluated, checked against what i all ready value and believe. and occasionally usually when listening to music or listening to philosophy I've loved either recently or that has endured for years. ill feel that ecstatic flow state. where it all seems to make sense and in an all too profound way. So illusive is Fi.
your videos are always interesting
+The Chocoholic Thanks, Choco!
I 've been watched some of ur videos about mbti, and I think it's good, full of useful information I want to know. I showed one of ur videos to my friend but she's not really interested, although she usually like those kind of stuff (mbti, disc etc). I think it would be nice if you presented the video more appealing, like using a better quality camera or add some animation. if you have friend who can edit video nicely, it would be great to collaborate so people will be interested and your knowledge can be shared more :)
Some of this stuff just rings way too true. As an INTP I've had lots of fun logically picking apart my ENFP friend's belief in an afterlife without my Fe letting me know how butthurt he's getting until later.
I've also read that Si makes people rely on their memory of past experience to figure out how to confront a situation. If that is our hidden agenda, I wonder if it could mean our memory is fallible!
Kind of unrelated, but which function do you think is most responsible for appreciating gastronomic delights, such as enthusiasm for fine foods/booze?
Si the most, followed by Se. It was interesting reading about your experience!
Entp here. Teddy bear act works so well, some thought I was Infp
I think I'm an ISFP, and either I don't get what you said about ISFPs'/ISTPs 3rd position Ni and the need to believe etc, or I maybe not an ISFP then, or maybe I'm just an exeption to this agenda-rule. (My 3rd position Ni tells me that the most likely answer is that I simply just did't get what you mean, but if that's the case, then it's an indication of that my 3rd position Ni is actually not THAT bad. :) )
Thank you for sharing. It is good to get constructive feedback based on your personal experience.
I can relate to every hidden agenda thing you said. What is wrong with me? Am I a mixture of all types? By the way I usually score as INFJ.
As an INFJ too, I think it's because INFJs are regarded as social chameleons. Quoted from a tumblr post, "They can seem like any type, depending on which side of their multi-faceted, multi-layered personality they want to show you in whichever social context you happen to be in. " and the description fits me perfectly.
I'm an INTP and I can relate to most of the problems as well, albeit less so for the Si one, which in my opinion isn't a problem in the least :P
MBTI is not hard science however so far it's the best personality study (that I know of at least).. You can do the test multiple times and get a different answer each time but you'll see a trend and identify with 1 or 2 even 3 maybe.. Ppl are very complicated, you can also change your MBTI subconsciously over time according to your environment and changes in mentality etc.. We all change over time
I am an INTP but I fit INTJ here more. I am prone to reverse psychology
The INTP part was spot on
looks like i found my complete dual
Hey! So hidden agenda Ti?? hm I just found out about this concept and I think it's super interesting. My first thought was that my hidden agenda is to learn? Or maybe put differently to philosophize? hah
I really do alter my internal framework to new info cos not tryna be close minded :P There's always more to learn! I can only hope that my current internal logic is sufficient. (I wish I had all the time in the world to read a bunch and then continue my life with all the knowledge hehe, horrible time management tho...)
0:11 jokes on you, I *always* feel uncomfortable
I'm an INTP and this frankly doesn't apply to me at all
Perhaps it has to do with a different upbringing. I believe I'm probably an exception to this agenda because most of my other INTP friends are definitely like that.
Greetings, Leon! First of all, great video. It struck a chord within me as an INTP.
Interestingly enough, I am not at all (virtually speaking) concerned with physical matters, but, as a Christian, I think my lifestyle and, as you term it, philosophy seems to look as if it is restricting. I always tell and even chastise my friends and family members (even my parents… I got into some trouble but all's well - I got the grace of God) about how their ways of living was not reflecting the radical Jesus culture that God had adopted them into (though I cannot say I am sinless). I point out how their beliefs about the Roman catholic church has no biblical basis, and I rebel against their pagan ways. I warn them that after this life there is eternity, and God, though merciful and loving, will pour out His wrath against those who choose to defy Him, either openly or in more discreet manners; I perceive a multitude of "risks" even though perhaps there is "none". I just found it really interesting that what you were talking about was uniquely reflected in me.
Shame on all our sinful and selfish ways. Send holy fire to Satan, our enemy. May God bless you, Leon. Jesus loves you.
I'm ENTP and maybe thats why I always have this urgent need to find a girlfriend when I'm single
My childhood friend is enfj and that’s so true 😂😂❤️
If you get extra time, would be nice to have timestamps for each type
Intp infp saving money for rainy day lol if that’s a bad thing then bring it on
ESTP here. My ENFP bro accuses me of having no people skills.
I did the test and got INFP but in this case I feel relatable to INFJ
same
I identify as INTP/ISTP. I have seen your videos.
My hidden agenda functions (3rd) are simultaneously my unvalued joke functions (6th) (that are pretty strong). And my parent functions (2nd) are simultaneously my polr functions (7th). Is it possible for an individual to have 4 well-rounded perceiving functions?
+Tyler Chan You would need to figure out what type you are first. I'd like to be a superhuman too but a parent function cannot be a polr function, one function is obviously strong and the other weak.
Haha the ENFJ is like those guys that do the "hustle life" or whatever
Nah I'm infj but I think your explanation of infjs and isfjs only fits isfjs. I don't need to convince people so if they contradict me I don't care. also I'm not very factual/ultra logical.
Put it on double speed and it still took too long. INTJ. A script of the content would have helped. By the way, the word is "definitely," not "defiantly".
nailed it
+cor Thanks :)
I'm not ideologicaly consistent generally, but there's this one ideology that I can't give up. I don't cheat on exams although everybody does it and yeah, people look at me as if I was retarded ;o
lmfao love you brother your a wild boy!!!!! lol crazy and true
i feel like hes speaking for immature mbti
My crush is INFJ, I'm INTP
I think see likes me too, So
What's keeping us separated?
When aren't we together?
😭😿😠
You need to ask them out. Not just hope that for some reason you’ll get together.
Intp... That's not accurate for me... I feel exactly the opposite, that everyone is too afraid of things that aren't dangerous...
Infjs and isfjs cant bullshit me on ti. But they probably think the same about my fi... Lol
as an INTP I can tell you know alot about what you are talking about
thanks!!
im intp and I don't hate people who have a Yolo pov in life.im like that to an extent...I like drugs etc idk exactly what you mean as in we love safety and security....do u mean something like hypothetically if an intp does a crime they'll plan it so they know they'll be safe and get away?
What is that clicking noise in the background? It’s so disturbing!
I don't think you get Si very well. It's commonly not very understood, so that's not that bad.
1) @1.15 ENTJ/ENFJ
2) @2.27 INTP/INFP(THIS IS SO WRONG)
3) @4.07 ENFP/ESFP
4) @5.15 INFJ/ISFJ
Find the rest for yourself
I agree with you - I'm an INTP and don't feel at all reflected in that description . So that makes 4 of us
Are you ever going to make an Entj video?
Oh and by the way, how is Se different from Ne? I know that Ne intuitively is more idea-oriented, so does that mean it is milder than Se? Because it's more about pattern-recognition in the outside world? Isn't pattern-recognition a more introverted approach than Se?
Do I make sense? Ha. Thanks for answering my question, much appreciated :))))
+Mon Maryum Se in essence has to do with willpower. This willpower causes one to act and "just do it" (often before thinking if in a dominant position). Ne by nature is mental--it is about possibilities, it does not in itself lead to action. However we can't have the mental without the physical. So often an Se type bases action on a possibility he or she thought up...these types do not just keep brainstorming possibilities though (in fact, this will eventually lead to inaction, which N types experience). Ne types would also act--when possibilities excite them enough they may be willing to experiment with them.
+Type Tips Wow, thanks for clearing that up. This question has been boggling me for the last couple weeks
9:56 sums up all the fake ENTP on Reddit.
Do you think it is possible to go against your description by consciously doing the opposite after being aware of this?
Interesting...I generally think it better to work towards something rather than do the opposite. Doing the opposite is still being its slave. So being conscious of the hidden agenda one can amend its ways.
So the third function is sort of like the role function?
+Mon Maryum They are similar in level of weakness, and we try to put both of them on strongly, so yes! The difference is one is valued, and the other is unvalued.
+Type Tips Oh I see. But I think I prefer Ti more than Si for myself to present myself to people (I am an INFP too), so can that happen with INFP's? To want to show Ti more than Si for some reason? I feel drawn to Ti-users a lot too, even though I am crappy at Ti
+Mon Maryum I believe so. That is the nature of the role function--in order to communicate and relate to the world--that is the function present. The role function of an INFJ is Si, that is why they make the effort to help you relax when you meet them.
All of these are my hidden adgendas.
Being a laughing stock. For ENTPs this is a success... ;-) OK. my smile, softness (in terms physical attributes), expressiveness can be bit overdone when in the zone but I have no control over it (makes gammas angry). If you think about it, it is subconscious desire. It is not all bad: like hugging a sister's kid who is hitting me playfully: makes people amused. Best practice? Nope.
Well, I think suggestive can be bit similar. What if I told you that you organised something well? It actually works even for suggestive.
But yeah I have seen an INFP making medical check ups bit too over worked for the state they were at.
+Ano Nymos I organized something well? that's flattering!
+Type Tips INFPs are going to react towards that very well. It works for suggestive as well in general... And now everyone thinks it is not sincere... Oh the irony.