I didn't realize going in to this that Cynthia's Milotic walls half that team by itself. That's some insane bulk there, it all came down to whether Cynthia could get rid of Sada's answers to Milotic before the water snake could live forever. She had the tools to do it too, since Flutter Mane can't hit Garchomp nearly as hard without fairy STAB, Togekiss is a hard counter to Brute Bonnet, and Garchomp also deals with Sandy Shocks really well. The battle can clearly go either way, but Milotic and its massive defense with a flame orb gave Cynthia the edge in these battles.
Honestly Togekiss tanked very well as well. The main goal for Cynthia is to deal with Roaring Moon and the proto attack and she did it well. Game 1 she forced a switch to get rid of it and game 3 her Spirittomb landed a crucial burn. Like u said though her Milotic literally carried her team. The only thing that really hurt it was Sandy Shocks and a lightning bolt Fluttermane. Milotic didn't even really cared about the Brute Bonnet. It helped how well she tanked as well since Sada always had the speed advantage expect for Lucario's ES and sometimes Garchomp.
I made this same mistake in BDSP. I brought a level 100 comp trained max HP max SpAtk shiny lugia because I wanted the ribbon and because "just in case" Well, Cynthia started kicking my ass because I was absolutely not prepared for that level of clapback and so I swapped in Lugia to make some progress. And remember: This is her e4 team. Not her postgame/rematch team. WELL... That level 63 milotic tanked Aeroblast with a sliver of health (it might have been a roll) and used mirror coat. The only reason Lugia survived with 12 HP is because its a beefy boi and is max HP. I respect the fuck out of milotic and ran Cythia's setup for the gen 9 DLC and my god it was effective. Sitting there... Never dying... Scalding everything...
Flutter Mane having Moonblast would have complicated things a lot. No more free Sucker Punch by Spiritomb, no more Garchomp for Flutter Mane, only Mirror Coat Milotic and Thunder Wave Togekiss but that would mean badly weakening one of your best team members for the rest of the battle, or Lucario's Meteor Mash but it just misses when it shouldn't. So far, from all of Sada's and Cynthia's performances, it becomes clearer that Togekiss, Milotic and Garchomp are Cynthia's big guns (priority from Lucario and Spiritomb, and focus sash will-o'-wisp, and Roserade's Poison Point) and in Sada's case it's her Scream Tail, Flutter Mane and Roaring Moon (if only her water-type counter Sandy Shocks wasn't weak to water, Sada would have been even better)
@@shawnaustin1037Without Booster Energy, Roaring Moon (not burnt) did 20% to her Milotic. Even with Booster Energy, it'd do only 26-29%. Which means that her Milotic is a fantastic counter to Roaring Moon and can take it head on even with Booster Energy. Thankfully her Roaring Moon doesn't have Dragon Dance/Knock-off, her Roaring Moon and Flutter Mane are already game changers without their best STABs.
@@nishant9289 It seems that this was using their exact in-game movesets so that's why Flutter Mane didn't have Moonblast (which I don't know why GF made that decision in the first place).
I told yall in the World Tour too; it will boil down to whether Cynthia will use her Milotic properly or not. Because she didn't sacrifice her Garchomp or any other Pokemon to Roaring Moon to bring Milotic safely last time, she lost. But this time she was aware of her mistake and won.
I am loving these smaller scale battles, very fun! For a match up I would love to see maybe: Iris and Drayton are adopted siblings/cousins, being grandchildren of Drayden and plenty strong in their own right as Champions. I would love to see them fight. Also I wonder if we could do like a tag team match up, like pair up people on a wheel or something and have them work in a double team battle ro something.
Hmm as someone commented, Blue Vs Gen 9 Champion (Geeta/Nemona/Kieran) is an excellent theme for Pokemon Day, And Steven Vs Wallace also seems a great idea.
You could make a fun tournament with 4 groups of 4 and in each group you put 1 trainer from every seed Seed 1 : The 4 best trainers you had until now like Cynthia, Sada,... Seed 2 : 4 teams created by viewers Seed 3 : 4 characters from a theme like the villains for example Seed 4 : this is the special one, first team is completely randomized choosing 6 pokemon from the entire pokedex, second team is YOUR team, you create the team yourself it will be pokedad's team, third one is a starter team composed by the favourite starters chosen by viewer's votes, and fourth one, i'll let your imagination create something haha Which seed will be crowned ? The Villains ?? The viewers ?? POKEDAD HIMSELF ????? I want to see that !
I'd really love to see either Cynthia vs Leon or Ash vs Red. Cynthia vs Volo would also be neat but at the same time that's... that's kinda just a mirror match. Anyways, keep up the awesome content, it's always great to see a new PokéDad video released!
It's mostly a mirror match except hisui Arcanine uh does not do well against Cynthia's team (being 4x weak to both ground and water which Cynthia uses both)
Marvel Scale Milotic is such an MVP in this matchup. Since commenting last time I've grown increasingly fond of N vs Volo, with a special request of letting them use Reshiram/Zekrom and Giratina since we don't often get to see Legendaries on this channel.
I think we should have Lance with his BW2 PWT team go against Blue to see who really holds the number 2 spot in Kanto. Funny enough the Champion of Johto games has the Dragonite while champ of Kanto has Tyranitar
I know it's been mentioned before but I would love gym type tournaments to see which gym leader is the best of a type. Best water gym leader, fire, etc.
Some fights I would like to see, but might be a series for the month is to have the region's champion v the main villain from that region to go against each other, then we can see from all the regions who are better the Champions or the Villains. In the games they never go against each other so it would be curious who wins the ultimate battle of good v evil.
Creating Pokémon battles with rivals and their teams during the game, like a Battle Tower or something similar, adds an engaging dynamic to the gameplay.
I actually want to see a tournament of exclusively powerful, diverse trainers. Like Sada, Turo, Cynthia, Wally, Red, Nemona, Geeta (Final team), Blue, Etc
how about a tournament between every villain of the rainbow rocket saga of Ultra sun&moon, with their respective legendaries & megas & z crystals, with even Guzma in.
I would love to see the main characters from the Pokemon Adventures Manga go at it. But that's a whole tournament right there. For a mini-tournament, lets see Ash's female companions fight it out, using their anime teams. But I suspect that's an easy win for Iris. But how about Ash vs Red?
I didn't realize going in to this that Cynthia's Milotic walls half that team by itself. That's some insane bulk there, it all came down to whether Cynthia could get rid of Sada's answers to Milotic before the water snake could live forever. She had the tools to do it too, since Flutter Mane can't hit Garchomp nearly as hard without fairy STAB, Togekiss is a hard counter to Brute Bonnet, and Garchomp also deals with Sandy Shocks really well.
The battle can clearly go either way, but Milotic and its massive defense with a flame orb gave Cynthia the edge in these battles.
Honestly Togekiss tanked very well as well. The main goal for Cynthia is to deal with Roaring Moon and the proto attack and she did it well. Game 1 she forced a switch to get rid of it and game 3 her Spirittomb landed a crucial burn. Like u said though her Milotic literally carried her team. The only thing that really hurt it was Sandy Shocks and a lightning bolt Fluttermane. Milotic didn't even really cared about the Brute Bonnet. It helped how well she tanked as well since Sada always had the speed advantage expect for Lucario's ES and sometimes Garchomp.
I made this same mistake in BDSP. I brought a level 100 comp trained max HP max SpAtk shiny lugia because I wanted the ribbon and because "just in case"
Well, Cynthia started kicking my ass because I was absolutely not prepared for that level of clapback and so I swapped in Lugia to make some progress. And remember: This is her e4 team. Not her postgame/rematch team. WELL... That level 63 milotic tanked Aeroblast with a sliver of health (it might have been a roll) and used mirror coat. The only reason Lugia survived with 12 HP is because its a beefy boi and is max HP.
I respect the fuck out of milotic and ran Cythia's setup for the gen 9 DLC and my god it was effective. Sitting there... Never dying... Scalding everything...
Flutter Mane having Moonblast would have complicated things a lot. No more free Sucker Punch by Spiritomb, no more Garchomp for Flutter Mane, only Mirror Coat Milotic and Thunder Wave Togekiss but that would mean badly weakening one of your best team members for the rest of the battle, or Lucario's Meteor Mash but it just misses when it shouldn't.
So far, from all of Sada's and Cynthia's performances, it becomes clearer that Togekiss, Milotic and Garchomp are Cynthia's big guns (priority from Lucario and Spiritomb, and focus sash will-o'-wisp, and Roserade's Poison Point) and in Sada's case it's her Scream Tail, Flutter Mane and Roaring Moon (if only her water-type counter Sandy Shocks wasn't weak to water, Sada would have been even better)
@@shawnaustin1037Without Booster Energy, Roaring Moon (not burnt) did 20% to her Milotic. Even with Booster Energy, it'd do only 26-29%. Which means that her Milotic is a fantastic counter to Roaring Moon and can take it head on even with Booster Energy. Thankfully her Roaring Moon doesn't have Dragon Dance/Knock-off, her Roaring Moon and Flutter Mane are already game changers without their best STABs.
@@nishant9289 It seems that this was using their exact in-game movesets so that's why Flutter Mane didn't have Moonblast (which I don't know why GF made that decision in the first place).
I told yall in the World Tour too; it will boil down to whether Cynthia will use her Milotic properly or not. Because she didn't sacrifice her Garchomp or any other Pokemon to Roaring Moon to bring Milotic safely last time, she lost. But this time she was aware of her mistake and won.
First Dawn wins the rival title and now Cynthia defeats the broken paradox mon. We gen 4 suprematists just can't stop winning
All thanks to BDSP
Love this format for videos! I think something like a Steven vs Wallace face off would be funny, may even surprise people with a Wallace win.
Putting out there again Geeta vs any of her E4
I would love to see geovanni vs silver next!
sandy shocks actually carried sada this time for real nothing else could deal with milotic
Even when Sada loses, it’s still a sandy shocks W
@@competitively3315 so true
I am loving these smaller scale battles, very fun!
For a match up I would love to see maybe:
Iris and Drayton are adopted siblings/cousins, being grandchildren of Drayden and plenty strong in their own right as Champions. I would love to see them fight.
Also I wonder if we could do like a tag team match up, like pair up people on a wheel or something and have them work in a double team battle ro something.
Let's have the first Champion, either Red or Blue/Gary face off against the newest Champion, Nemona or Keiran
Blue Vs Rematch Geeta gets me hooked up!
Nah we need Cynthia Vs Geeta
Hmm as someone commented, Blue Vs Gen 9 Champion (Geeta/Nemona/Kieran) is an excellent theme for Pokemon Day,
And Steven Vs Wallace also seems a great idea.
You could make a fun tournament with 4 groups of 4 and in each group you put 1 trainer from every seed
Seed 1 : The 4 best trainers you had until now like Cynthia, Sada,...
Seed 2 : 4 teams created by viewers
Seed 3 : 4 characters from a theme like the villains for example
Seed 4 : this is the special one, first team is completely randomized choosing 6 pokemon from the entire pokedex, second team is YOUR team, you create the team yourself it will be pokedad's team, third one is a starter team composed by the favourite starters chosen by viewer's votes, and fourth one, i'll let your imagination create something haha
Which seed will be crowned ? The Villains ?? The viewers ?? POKEDAD HIMSELF ????? I want to see that !
I am very curious who Pokedad would choose with his extensive knowledge of Pokemon.
I'd really love to see either Cynthia vs Leon or Ash vs Red.
Cynthia vs Volo would also be neat but at the same time that's... that's kinda just a mirror match.
Anyways, keep up the awesome content, it's always great to see a new PokéDad video released!
In other tournaments Cynthia has gone against Leon and she absolutely murders him hate to say it. Ash v Red does intrigue me.
It's mostly a mirror match except hisui Arcanine uh does not do well against Cynthia's team (being 4x weak to both ground and water which Cynthia uses both)
Marvel Scale Milotic is such an MVP in this matchup.
Since commenting last time I've grown increasingly fond of N vs Volo, with a special request of letting them use Reshiram/Zekrom and Giratina since we don't often get to see Legendaries on this channel.
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Glad to see that Cynthia was able to beat the professor spamming pokemon with Legendary-level stats.
CYNTHIA!!!!!!! She is the queen and nobody is taking her down!! Not even an AI.
Glad Cynthia got her revenge on AI Sada from that one tournament
I think we should have Lance with his BW2 PWT team go against Blue to see who really holds the number 2 spot in Kanto. Funny enough the Champion of Johto games has the Dragonite while champ of Kanto has Tyranitar
Geeta (Blue Berry Rematch) vs Alder B2W2 world tournament
I know it's been mentioned before but I would love gym type tournaments to see which gym leader is the best of a type. Best water gym leader, fire, etc.
switching the battles was a big brain move, well done! 🧠👍
Blue vs Geeta or nemona
First vs latest champion
When I read your channel description I already subbed
Milotic VS The World
Some fights I would like to see, but might be a series for the month is to have the region's champion v the main villain from that region to go against each other, then we can see from all the regions who are better the Champions or the Villains. In the games they never go against each other so it would be curious who wins the ultimate battle of good v evil.
Creating Pokémon battles with rivals and their teams during the game, like a Battle Tower or something similar, adds an engaging dynamic to the gameplay.
I wanna see a battle we were snubbed from seeing in the anime. Ash Ketchum with his Journeys team... Versus Alain!
I want to see kukui vs mustard
You should do a game freak, Pokémon team tournament. I know some games game, freak, insert themselves in as battle able players.
Another cool match! Thanks PokeDad
is it just the games or can we vote for Ash (Champion) to face someone?
I actually want to see a tournament of exclusively powerful, diverse trainers. Like Sada, Turo, Cynthia, Wally, Red, Nemona, Geeta (Final team), Blue, Etc
Iris vs Georgia (Black & White anime)
Ah yes please! Dragon Master Vs Dragon Buster sounds super fun!
Why the actual heck did the fairy type fluttermane have no fairy moves
These ai battles are cool is the code you use to run these battles made by you or is there some public code you use
Love to see a Battle between N & Leaf
I expected sada to win actually but to be fair I beat both first try Cynthia on BDSP and sada on Scarlet
Now we need Cynthia vs Wally x3 see who would have won the tourney
I would like to know what made Sada think she should “use” brute bonnet against togekiss. :|
thats epic
how about a tournament between every villain of the rainbow rocket saga of Ultra sun&moon, with their respective legendaries & megas & z crystals, with even Guzma in.
we already have that. Should be in one of his playlists.
I want to see Cynthia face AI Turo. I think his team might be a bit harder for her to handle (more fairies).
I would love to see the main characters from the Pokemon Adventures Manga go at it. But that's a whole tournament right there. For a mini-tournament, lets see Ash's female companions fight it out, using their anime teams. But I suspect that's an easy win for Iris.
But how about Ash vs Red?
Which AI u use?
Obviously they use Sada ^^
I mean, the AI in all its channel
Blue vs lance
When does Cynthia get her Porygon z
BDSP 2 rematch, the one with level 88 garchomp
@@viniciusvini981 for these videos ik she has it
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What a close match! Just goes to show that team composition can triumph over pure stats. Cynthia retains her title in a wonderful series.
Minor B Coliseum vs minor B Gale of Darkness